11-28-2012, 10:41 AM | #226 |
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The chargebacks are going to be epic.
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11-28-2012, 10:43 AM | #227 |
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Yeah. I feel bad for boomo, but this was partly what I was afraid of for him - anyone who is, or feels slighted, can just file a chargeback - or return for a refund.
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11-28-2012, 10:44 AM | #228 |
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This. But hopefully boomo feels your pain. Your obviously a good customer I'm sure he will want to keep.
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11-28-2012, 10:47 AM | #229 |
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I'm not upset at Boomo, the way he listed his auctions, or anyone other than Topps.
It's the same situation as if I paid $1,200 for the Almora Base/Ref/Blue Auto spot and Topps decided not to make a Base or Refractor Auto (and I was left with a $1,200 Blue Auto) Boomo designed these auctions to take the risk out. You buy the Orange - Plate for risk, you buy the Base - Gold because you know what you're getting. I purchased the Bowman's Best lots under the impression that the odds to hit them we're 1:6. That is not the case, I request a refund. I feel it's fair and if anyone here paid $1,200 for $100 worth of cards, even before they we're opened, you all would feel the same way.
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11-28-2012, 10:47 AM | #230 |
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No doubt.
As a seller, I would feel somewhat in the right... And at this stage of the game, he's got no time to re-list and auction those slots to recover any loss from refunds. As a buyer, I would feel shafted... By Topps. I would think a partial refund might keep both parties from completely losing their shorts, but it's not my money. Much easier said then done. |
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"2012 Bowman Draft Picks & Prospects Bowmans Best Inserts Base Odds 1:6 Packs" From 2012 Bowman Draft Picks & Prospects Baseball Checklist I can see how boomo would say no way jose, so sue that site ^^ |
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11-28-2012, 10:49 AM | #232 | |
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"EVERY SINGLE BOWMANS BEST DIE CUT CARD, INCLUDING ALL VARIATIONS." They way I read this description is the lot contains more than just variations. I think Paypal will side with the buyers on these personally. I also believe experienced bidders should have understand the risk of a pre-buy in relation to content changing.
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I just don't see it the way you see it though, but like I said, ultimately, whether via charge back, or return, he [and anyone else] will get their $$$ back.
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11-28-2012, 10:53 AM | #235 |
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I bought a pre-sale set that was completely eliminated.
When you pre-sell something on eBay that you don't have, and then you don't get it, you refund the buyer. Simple as that IMHO. I'm not trying to play word games with the auction, this is not me buying a "redeemed" redemption card. Boomo and every buyer on those auctions believed they would receive 48 base cards in 50 cases per player and that's not the case. Truth be told it's not my issue with Topps. Hell it's not even Boomo's issue with Topps. It's whomever Topps shipped the cases to's issue. Right now, my issue is with Boomo, and Boomo only. He did nothing wrong, but he is responsible for my and everyone elses auctions won, if the product he is pre-selling changes.
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11-28-2012, 10:59 AM | #237 |
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I think the title of this thread should end in a question mark.
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11-28-2012, 10:59 AM | #238 |
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Man what a cluster f*ck. From the codes not being inserted at the advertised ratios, to the Bowman's Best inserts that aren't in the packs. LOL WTF
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11-28-2012, 11:02 AM | #239 |
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boomo should have known better. how often does topps release something that contradicts their sell sheets? if you want to do breaks of this nature wait until after release. his small profit just went out the window...
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11-28-2012, 11:03 AM | #240 |
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Well, I suppose this is one for Boomo and I to work out (as well as Boomo and the other winners of the Bowmans Best slots).
If you paid $170.00 for the Zunino Bowman's Best slot and you didn't get anything, thinking you'd have 48 cards ... you wouldn't say "Ohhhhh that's risk" Gimme a break.
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11-28-2012, 11:07 AM | #242 |
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Hopefully karma is on Boomo's side and he pulls some nice low #'d Bowman Best cards of the top prospects and is able to sell them off as singles to recoup the $ he will probably have to refund.
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11-28-2012, 11:10 AM | #243 |
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Guys ... this all goes back to the fact that "auctions of chance" are not permitted on eBay, yet for some reason these auctions were allowed to stand. PayPal/eBay probably aren't going to have a freaking clue how to handle this. Thus, they will side with the buyer.
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11-28-2012, 11:14 AM | #244 |
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Guys, I'm not filing a chargeback, or a refund through eBay or Paypal or all that. (The other Best buyers might).
I'm not looking to cause problems for Boomo down the road, I think the auctions were great. But when the product changes, and people have already bought in, it must be dealt with. The risk was not on my side here, it was on Boomo's. I leave it in his hands to decide how to deal with this and if his decision is screw you, then so be it. But considering the small take on these 50 auctions compared to his haul as a whole, I feel the right thing to do is simply issue a refund to the 50 buyers, and sell the cards individually. He'll still come out well ahead and the problem is solved. We'll see.
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But what if the title said Bowman'd Best Die Cuts? I only dabble and I know the Die Cuts are much shorter printed then the regular cards (if any in this case)
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It does not matter to me what lingo was used in the auction ... I'm not trying to be right here on a "technicality". This is more on a business ethics level. Something was sold that now we know does not exist. If Boomo wants to play the "auction clearly says" game, he can. But IMHO ... he shouldn't, and I hope he doesn't.
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Sorry for the venting everyone.
Not my best 24 hours. Wife went out driving in the snow last night after I begged her not to, got into an accident (she's fine, but she banged up the new car enough where it pulls to the right. Damn that woman) and now with this ... I am NOT opening any of my cases today, for fear Topps put rocks inside them instead of cards.
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