Muhammad Ali Graded Auto for Trade

[NewVintageNY]

Looking to trade for Harper, Trout, Jeter, basketball, Steelers, Ginter or any other high end autograph. I will listen to any offer. I have done research on the card and I will most likely get it reslabbed by PSA if I don't trade it. If you look at the link below and go to "the 90's" the auto looks to match up.

http://www.aliautos.net/examples.html

[detox]

Who is that grading company?

[CrisCarter80]

is grading company legit or a scam company?

[NewVintageNY]

They are legit you can look on ebay and I put the link of the website below. I did not personally have the card graded but I would not have the card if the grading company were not legit.

The Leader in Card and Pack Grading and Education — GAI | Global Authority, Inc.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by DanONeill7

They are legit you can look on ebay and I put the link of the website below. I did not personally have the card graded but I would not have the card if the grading company were not legit.

The Leader in Card and Pack Grading and Education — GAI | Global Authority, Inc.

Nevermind...

[CrisCarter80]

time to subscribe to this........

[zerodave]

Lol GAI....


The Cautionary Tale of GAI | autographsforsaledotcom

[NewVintageNY]

Obviously I prefer PSA and BGS but SGC, GAI, BCCG are legit companies just not the top dogs. But you can see based on ebay there are thousands of high end cards/auto's graded by GAI

gai | eBay

[NewVintageNY]

Originally Posted by zerodave

Lol GAI....


The Cautionary Tale of GAI | autographsforsaledotcom

Lol well based on this article and I quote

"I have no direct proof of this since it obviously all happened behind closed doors. But it’s pretty clear from all the fake autographs out there with GAI stickers that someone at that company was knowingly authenticating fake autographs, in cooperation with unscrupulous eBay autograph dealers."

This can be said for any grading company and the article is referring to people putting stickers on the auto's not ENCASED auto's/cards.

I can post threads from this exact site of people accusing PSA and BGS of grading trimmed cards etc.

The card is encased and has been authenticated. It's not a picture or glove that is autographed with a sticker slapped on it.

[ima_do_me213]

Originally Posted by DanONeill7

Lol well based on this article and I quote

"I have no direct proof of this since it obviously all happened behind closed doors. But it’s pretty clear from all the fake autographs out there with GAI stickers that someone at that company was knowingly authenticating fake autographs, in cooperation with unscrupulous eBay autograph dealers."

This can be said for any grading company and the article is referring to people putting stickers on the auto's not ENCASED auto's/cards.

I can post threads from this exact site of people accusing PSA and BGS of grading trimmed cards etc.

The card is encased and has been authenticated. It's not a picture or glove that is autographed with a sticker slapped on it.

There are also cards that are cased that have fake autos I had a couple and will never get anything GAI again. There is a BIG difference between trimmed and fake autos

[zerodave]

Its not the grade of the card that is in quesiton, its the autograph. GAI doesn't exactly have a great reputation anymore for certifying autographs.

[asujbl]

GAI is what it is. People know this. What's the point of everyone posting about the card when everyone has an opinion of GAI? If you don't trust GAI don't trade for it. If you do trust them then do trade for it. Pretty simple.

[zerodave]

I think you have a fake auto on hand though. Mohammed Ali's certified, by him all have his "M" seperated from the rest of the signature, I may be wrong, but it does seem that way.

General Guide - aliautos.com - The greatest Muhammad Ali autograph

[CrisCarter80]

not going to end well

[NewVintageNY]

I just like how everyone tries to show how smart they are on forums. I can pull hundreds of articles bashing psa, bgs, or any grading company it's not difficult. People on this forum are consistently accusing any grading company you want to name with grading fake cards, fake autos/patches, bad grade, etc, etc, etc.

PSA Continues To Grade Fake 2007 Rookie Premiere Autos | Sports Cards Uncensored

Now that everyone on hear is an expert of Muhammad Ali autographs when they look at a site for 2 minutes have fun showing how smart you are.

But I guess the thousands of GAI graded cards on ebay are all fakes. If the company were a fraud and scam artists they would be out of business.

[NewVintageNY]

Originally Posted by zerodave

I think you have a fake auto on hand though. Mohammed Ali's certified, by him all have his "M" seperated from the rest of the signature, I may be wrong, but it does seem that way.

General Guide - aliautos.com - The greatest Muhammad Ali autograph

Yes based on your 342 total transactions on ebay you seem to be a big shot in the card industry and can spot a fake graded autograph card from a mile away. Maybe if you were a legitimate ebay store owner that dealt in thousands of transaction I would respect your opinion but you clearly have no experience.

[zerodave]

Originally Posted by DanONeill7

Yes based on your 342 total transactions on ebay you seem to be a big shot in the card industry and can spot a fake graded autograph card from a mile away. Maybe if you were a legitimate ebay store owner that dealt in thousands of transaction I would respect your opinion but you clearly have no experience.

To each their own. Good luck.

[NewVintageNY]

As I am sure you are aware Muhammad Ali has parkinson's disease good luck comparing autographs on a website. Look at these legit auto's.

Leaf Muhammad Ali The Greatest AU 44 Autograph Card Silver 2 of 10 | eBay

Muhammad Ali 2012 Sportkings Series E Silver Autograph BGS 9 Mint Auto 15 | eBay

Do they look like your website auto's? They are legit. But based on your expert eye and your extensive research they would be fakes.

[CrisCarter80]

oh wow , op is melting down over this and attacking members, and its only page 1?

[zerodave]

Originally Posted by CrisCarter80

oh wow , op is melting down over this and attacking members, and its only page 1?

It escalated pretty quickly. Guess my quick research didn't please him. But hopefully will allow others quicker access to the information they may seek in making a pleasant deal.

Figured I wasn't being mean in any way.

[CrisCarter80]

Originally Posted by zerodave

It escalated pretty quickly. Guess my quick research didn't please him. But hopefully will allow others quicker access to the information they may seek in making a pleasant deal.

Figured I wasn't being mean in any way.

nothing wrong with protecting members.

[ima_do_me213]

Dude how old are u? 14? That's how your acting your getting butt hurt because people are saying that GAI certifys fakes but u need to realize its true they do certify ALOT of fakes I'm not saying all are fakes because not all are but ALOT of them are. Your best bet is crack it open and get it certified through PSA because they aren't known for fakes and the value would go up being authenticated by PSA then GAI

[NewVintageNY]

I guess this guy is selling fake auto's. I did not purchase mine from this person. You better report him to protect everyone.

To quote zero dave "my quick research". I guess "quick" research should be relied upon to determine fake graded cards.

1983 L A Olympics Cassius Clay U s A Muhammad Ali GAI Certified Auto RARE | eBay

If you don't want the card that is fine. I do not care. But to make blind blanket statements and do "quick research" to determine the validity of a card is laughable. If you don't like the card isn't a PSA that's fine don't trade for it. But trying to discredit something you know nothing about is annoying.

[bearfield]

i collect certified autographs. if my bucket shows up, you may check it out. i have well over 5,000 certified autographs, and been collecting since 91 pro line came out. i would say that makes me somewhat of an expert. i wouldn't own any gai certified auto, as they were known for being crooks, and it hasn't been proved that they have changed. anyway, good luck.

[bearfield]

will also mention that high dollar autos from no name companys are more suspect.