SICK Griffey 2009 Ultimate Quad Patch Auto /24

Tpm2780 · 08-27-2012, 12:06 AM

Just picked up this very SICK Griffey 09 Ultimate Quad Patch Auto /24 card on eBay! I don't have the card in hand yet but here is a link to a pic of the card:
Let me know what you think of it? Thanks!

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/KEN-GRIFFEY-JR-ULTIMAT-AUTO-QUAD-PATCHES-LOGO-24-NICEST-GRIFFEY-PATCH-SEEN-/00/s/NjUyWDEwMjQ=/$T2eC16V,!)cE9s4Ptn,yBQMtlGRd7w~~60_12.JPG

fert360 · 08-27-2012, 12:08 AM

Crack it out and submit it to psa

Tpm2780 · 08-27-2012, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by fert360

Crack it out and submit it to psa

Thanks but I'll probably just keep it as is with SGC. They are one of the big 3 Authenticators so i definitely trust them.

W_Raoul2 · 08-27-2012, 12:16 AM

WOW! That's totally SICK. and. AMAZING.

If I had to put money on it, I'd say it's fake, though. Looks like they used the same patches in each window.

As long as you enjoy it, I guess it doesn't matter, though!

Tpm2780 · 08-27-2012, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by W_Raoul2

WOW! That's totally SICK. and. AMAZING.

If I had to put money on it, I'd say it's fake, though. Looks like they used the same patches in each window.

As long as you enjoy it, I guess it doesn't matter, though!

I don't have any reason to believe that this card has been altered/tampered with fake patches. They used A LOT of logo patch pieces in this set and having the card AUTHENTICATED by one of the best companies out there assures myself that it is the real deal. Thanks though for your thoughts!

vwnut13 · 08-27-2012, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by W_Raoul2

WOW! That's totally SICK. and. AMAZING.

If I had to put money on it, I'd say it's fake, though. Looks like they used the same patches in each window.

As long as you enjoy it, I guess it doesn't matter, though!

Doesn't look like any of the others I've seen...

2009 UD Ultimate Materials Ken Griffey Jr. Auto /24 (04/01/2010)

KEN GRIFFEY JR 2009 ULTIMATE MATERIAL PATCH/AUTO #15 (06/12/2011)...

09 UD Ultimate Quad Patch Auto Ken Griffey Jr 24/24 (05/14/2011)...

Tpm2780 · 08-27-2012, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by vwnut13

Doesn't look like any of the others I've seen...

2009 UD Ultimate Materials Ken Griffey Jr. Auto /24 (04/01/2010)

KEN GRIFFEY JR 2009 ULTIMATE MATERIAL PATCH/AUTO #15 (06/12/2011)...

09 UD Ultimate Quad Patch Auto Ken Griffey Jr 24/24 (05/14/2011)...

A private Griffey collector has several ones from this set with similar logo patch pieces in the card and he believes it is the real deal. It's really hard to dispute being the card was AUTHENTICATED but everyone has their own thoughts on it. Thanks!

W_Raoul2 · 08-27-2012, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by vwnut13

Doesn't look like any of the others I've seen...

2009 UD Ultimate Materials Ken Griffey Jr. Auto /24 (04/01/2010)

KEN GRIFFEY JR 2009 ULTIMATE MATERIAL PATCH/AUTO #15 (06/12/2011)...

09 UD Ultimate Quad Patch Auto Ken Griffey Jr 24/24 (05/14/2011)...

Exactly my point. I've also never even heard of SGC or their authentication.

But like I said, as long as you're happy, who cares what we think.

vwnut13 · 08-27-2012, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Tpm2780

A private Griffey collector has several ones from this set with similar logo patch pieces in the card and he believes it is the real deal. It's really hard to dispute being the card was AUTHENTICATED but everyone has their own thoughts on it. Thanks!

The card was authenticated, not the patch.

Don't know how many times that needs to be said.

THE(NEXT)LEVEL · 08-27-2012, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by vwnut13

The card was authenticated, not the patch.

Don't know how many times that needs to be said.

Exactly what I was about to say!

Tpm2780 · 08-27-2012, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by W_Raoul2

Exactly my point. I've also never even heard of SGC or their authentication.

But like I said, as long as you're happy, who cares what we think.

Yep, you're right! They are called Sportscard Guaranty, LLC and they grade and Authenticate sports cards just like BGS and PSA. I think people don't know as much about them as the other two companies but they are legit and I'm sure that they are good at determining if a card is authenticate or not. They were recently in New York at a sports card show grading cards on-site and that is where this card was authenticated at. I guess their new holders for patch cards are supposed to be very nice with a black insert. Once I get the card I will know what I think of it. Thanks everyone so far for their thoughts!

vwnut13 · 08-27-2012, 12:36 AM

Here is a another "nice logo patch" from that set sold by the same seller.

2009 ULTIMATE EVAN LONGORIA SUPER PATCH LOGO /35 AMAZING PATCH LOGO TEMPA RAY | eBay

Here is another similar card that was sold on eBay back in 2010.

09 ULTIMATE COLLECTION EVAN LONGORIA PATCH 18/35 (08/21/2010)

The patches are no where near the same quality.

On of (or both) of them are fake.

Whodey14 · 08-27-2012, 12:38 AM

100% fake, they dont authenticate patches

free2131 · 08-27-2012, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tpm2780

Yep, you're right! They are called Sportscard Guaranty, LLC and they grade and Authenticate sports cards just like BGS and PSA. I think people don't know as much about them as the other two companies but they are legit and I'm sure that they are good at determining if a card is authenticate or not. They were recently in New York at a sports card show grading cards on-site and that is where this card was authenticated at. I guess their new holders for patch cards are supposed to be very nice with a black insert. Once I get the card I will know what I think of it. Thanks everyone so far for their thoughts!

SGC is what a lot of people prefer for vintage stuff.

People are correct though that what these grading companies authenticate is the card itself and not the patch. People are are very good now at putting fake patches in cards. I've seen cards that sold on Ebay (serial numbered cards) that show back up a few months later (same serial number) but with a "L@@K!! SUPER SICK!! ZOMG" patch that is "authentic" because of being graded.

Hope it turns out legit for you man.

Mrpokey · 08-27-2012, 02:22 AM

Pretty card but unfortunately pretty fake/altered also. Your card is authenticated by SGC, NOT the patches.

dmogull · 08-27-2012, 02:30 AM

I have witnessed crazy logo patches from that same set (of cal ripken jr) being pulled, so it is possible. here are examples I found (although neither of these is the card I saw pulled, they are very similar)...

edit: the above picture links are quirky, here are the worthpoint listings just in case they show up as broken links

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...iple-171807889
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...tion-133254526

free2131 · 08-27-2012, 02:43 AM

^ I would murder someone for those cards. Like, literally...

Tpm2780 · 08-27-2012, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dmogull

I have witnessed crazy logo patches from that same set (of cal ripken jr) being pulled, so it is possible. here are examples I found (although neither of these is the card I saw pulled, they are very similar)...

edit: the above picture links are quirky, here are the worthpoint listings just in case they show up as broken links

2009 ULTIMATE CAL RIPKEN JR TRIPLE LOGO PATCH AUTO 1 (06/29/2011)...
CAL RIPKEN JR. 09 ULTIMATE COLLECTION AUTO PATCH # 2 (02/15/2011)...

Exactly my point! UD did come out with a lot of crazy patches in their 09 ultimate product so having a card like mine is definitely not out of the question! Thanks!

Prospect Rush · 08-27-2012, 09:34 AM

Fake, fake,fake.

Oh and it's SGC FAKE!

MetDude · 08-27-2012, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tpm2780

Exactly my point! UD did come out with a lot of crazy patches in their 09 ultimate product so having a card like mine is definitely not out of the question! Thanks!

The major difference being the numbering.
While I tend to agree with the others that you've been duped,
I'd really like that opinion to be wrong, for the sake of your thousand dollars.

KEN GRIFFEY JR ULTIMAT AUTO QUAD PATCHES LOGO /24 NICEST GRIFFEY PATCH I SEEN | eBay

dmogull · 08-27-2012, 10:37 AM

you also have to remember, these are actual game-used jerseys and don't come as easy as those basketball/football rookie premier "event-used" jerseys where they can have 20 jerseys (and 40+ logo patches) from each player. cutting up a griffey gamer means only 1 or 2 logo patches and so those patches can only be allocated to a handful of cards. that can be a reason why some of the cards in this print run have number/letter patches and others have logo patches. just a thought.

vwnut13 · 08-27-2012, 12:50 PM

Another thing to add, the only time that I ever see people get Patch cards Authenticated is when A) They believe they are Fake (and think authenticating it guarantees it's real), or B) They faked it and had it authenticated (to deceive people who believe that authenticating it guarantees it's real)

TakaTanakaGiant · 08-27-2012, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetDude

The major difference being the numbering.
While I tend to agree with the others that you've been duped,
I'd really like that opinion to be wrong, for the sake of your thousand dollars.

KEN GRIFFEY JR ULTIMAT AUTO QUAD PATCHES LOGO /24 NICEST GRIFFEY PATCH I SEEN | eBay

OUCH!
I would have done a little bit of cross referencing before dropping that kind of coin on a card. The other Griffey cards in the series look NOTHING like that one.
♪ ♫Everyday I'm Hustlin'♪ ♫

On a side note, that seller has something that I MUST ABSOLUTELY have.
GEORGE BUSH BARBARA BUSH 08 DONRUSS DUAL PATCH GW 03/25 | eBay

Excuse me while I change my pants

Griffey Fan · 08-27-2012, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vwnut13

Here is a another "nice logo patch" from that set sold by the same seller.

2009 ULTIMATE EVAN LONGORIA SUPER PATCH LOGO /35 AMAZING PATCH LOGO TEMPA RAY | eBay

Here is another similar card that was sold on eBay back in 2010.

09 ULTIMATE COLLECTION EVAN LONGORIA PATCH 18/35 (08/21/2010)

The patches are no where near the same quality.

On of (or both) of them are fake.

One of the Rays top dog executives requested and recieved all of Longoria's World Series gamers..These are both extremely fake.

OP-A few of us Griffey guys have discussed this card,we all also believe...it's fake.

If it's to good to be true....

wickedliquids · 08-27-2012, 03:12 PM

Incredible as those cards are, it's also the reason why I stopped collecting UD products all together after 2009 Goodwin. The Ultimate and Exquisite line, which are stunning in my opinion, are all too often altered. I'm no expert and I do not own any cards from the line (except a single, dual signatue card, no patch), but with the volume of cards that HAVE been altered, it's seemingly high risk to buy these cards IMO. Even as a card collecting community, BO and several other forums, have very intelligent and sharp collectors that can call this stuff out in a heart beat.

I find it easier to simply "stay away."

To the OP, yes, that Griffey is sick and I hope it's 100% authentic.

But when I see a thread like this pop up on occassion, I keep asking myself, "Do some of the collectors here not recognize who the card manufacturer is?"

It's Upper Deck.

Ran by some dudes who have in the past (and probably still continues to do so), back door so many things AND illegally do things (case in point Konami), and run up prints to make more money (again, probably back doored) -the point I'm trying to make is, what IF the card is legit, but trickled out of the UD office some how?

I am aware that in all liklihood, the card was altered.....but I also believe there are cards out there that Upper Deck themselves put out. Although the finger never points to them, I'm SURE they have VERY good relationships with certain sellers and they've had business lunches more than once.....

Conspiracy!

08-27-2012, 12:16 AM	#4
W_Raoul2 Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 4,825 W_Raoul2	WOW! That's totally *SICK.* and. AMAZING. If I had to put money on it, I'd say it's fake, though. Looks like they used the same patches in each window. As long as you enjoy it, I guess it doesn't matter, though! __________________ Self-proclaimed: HANLEY RAMIREZ and Clayton Kershaw SUPERCOLLECTOR. Also collecting: Hunter Pence, Michael Pineda, and Gregory Polanco Bucket: https://picasaweb.google.com/110725359593585808487

08-27-2012, 12:38 AM	#13
Whodey14 Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Kentucky Posts: 9,756	100% fake, they dont authenticate patches __________________ thesportcardking on IG

08-27-2012, 02:30 AM	#16
dmogull Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: NY/NJ Posts: 4,038 m3equals333	I have witnessed crazy logo patches from that same set (of cal ripken jr) being pulled, so it is possible. here are examples I found (although neither of these is the card I saw pulled, they are very similar)... edit: the above picture links are quirky, here are the worthpoint listings just in case they show up as broken links http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...iple-171807889 http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...tion-133254526 Last edited by dmogull; 08-27-2012 at 02:57 AM.

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08-27-2012, 12:06 AM	#1
Tpm2780 Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 2,187 Holyknight32	SICK Griffey 2009 Ultimate Quad Patch Auto /24 Just picked up this very SICK Griffey 09 Ultimate Quad Patch Auto /24 card on eBay! I don't have the card in hand yet but here is a link to a pic of the card: Let me know what you think of it? Thanks! http://i.ebayimg.com/t/KEN-GRIFFEY-JR-ULTIMAT-AUTO-QUAD-PATCHES-LOGO-24-NICEST-GRIFFEY-PATCH-SEEN-/00/s/NjUyWDEwMjQ=/$T2eC16V,!)cE9s4Ptn,yBQMtlGRd7w~~60_12.JPG __________________ Check out my AMAZING Griffey collection https://app.photobucket.com/u/Tpm2780/

08-27-2012, 12:08 AM	#2
fert360 Banned Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 2,074 taboa-marce	Crack it out and submit it to psa

08-27-2012, 12:36 AM	#12
vwnut13 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Vermont Posts: 5,898	Here is a another "nice logo patch" from that set sold by the same seller. 2009 ULTIMATE EVAN LONGORIA SUPER PATCH LOGO /35 AMAZING PATCH LOGO TEMPA RAY \| eBay Here is another similar card that was sold on eBay back in 2010. 09 ULTIMATE COLLECTION EVAN LONGORIA PATCH 18/35 (08/21/2010) The patches are no where near the same quality. On of (or both) of them are fake.

08-27-2012, 02:22 AM	#15
Mrpokey Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: East Coast Posts: 5,103 Mrpokey	Pretty card but unfortunately pretty fake/altered also. Your card is authenticated by SGC, NOT the patches. __________________ Currently looking for: 2018 Sage Sportkings Kevin VanDam Memorabilia and Autos. Buying over Ebay or Trading high for them

08-27-2012, 02:43 AM	#17
free2131 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 5,364	^ I would murder someone for those cards. Like, literally...

08-27-2012, 09:34 AM	#19
Prospect Rush Banned Join Date: May 2011 Location: @prospectrush Posts: 10,179	Fake, fake,fake. Oh and it's SGC FAKE!

08-27-2012, 10:37 AM	#21
dmogull Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: NY/NJ Posts: 4,038 m3equals333	you also have to remember, these are actual game-used jerseys and don't come as easy as those basketball/football rookie premier "event-used" jerseys where they can have 20 jerseys (and 40+ logo patches) from each player. cutting up a griffey gamer means only 1 or 2 logo patches and so those patches can only be allocated to a handful of cards. that can be a reason why some of the cards in this print run have number/letter patches and others have logo patches. just a thought.

08-27-2012, 12:50 PM	#22
vwnut13 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Vermont Posts: 5,898	Another thing to add, the only time that I ever see people get Patch cards Authenticated is when A) They believe they are Fake (and think authenticating it guarantees it's real), or B) They faked it and had it authenticated (to deceive people who believe that authenticating it guarantees it's real)

08-27-2012, 03:12 PM	#25
wickedliquids Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,182 marvjung	Incredible as those cards are, it's also the reason why I stopped collecting UD products all together after 2009 Goodwin. The Ultimate and Exquisite line, which are stunning in my opinion, are all too often altered. I'm no expert and I do not own any cards from the line (except a single, dual signatue card, no patch), but with the volume of cards that HAVE been altered, it's seemingly high risk to buy these cards IMO. Even as a card collecting community, BO and several other forums, have very intelligent and sharp collectors that can call this stuff out in a heart beat. I find it easier to simply "stay away." To the OP, yes, that Griffey is sick and I hope it's 100% authentic. But when I see a thread like this pop up on occassion, I keep asking myself, "Do some of the collectors here not recognize who the card manufacturer is?" It's Upper Deck. Ran by some dudes who have in the past (and probably still continues to do so), back door so many things AND illegally do things (case in point Konami), and run up prints to make more money (again, probably back doored) -the point I'm trying to make is, what IF the card is legit, but trickled out of the UD office some how? I am aware that in all liklihood, the card was altered.....but I also believe there are cards out there that Upper Deck themselves put out. Although the finger never points to them, I'm SURE they have VERY good relationships with certain sellers and they've had business lunches more than once..... Conspiracy!