Cryptozoic The Walking Dead Season 2 Trading Cards Fall 2012 - Page 18

Brobocop · 09-06-2012, 02:19 PM

I would be surprised if Blowout did not get the biggest chunk of allocation. They have been behind each and every Cryptozoic release so far. They are also arguably the largest internet retailer of trading cards. So that leads me to believe they will get a big chunk and will hopefully have a fair amount of cases and boxes for sale and for reasonable prices.

Tim · 09-06-2012, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Brobocop

I would be surprised if Blowout did not get the biggest chunk of allocation. They have been behind each and every Cryptozoic release so far. They are also arguably the largest internet retailer of trading cards. So that leads me to believe they will get a big chunk and will hopefully have a fair amount of cases and boxes for sale and for reasonable prices.

Sorry but none of this really applies. BO did not buy the Comic Liberty Defense Fund product from C, and their supply of VD was very very limited. They did stock WD1 but not in large quantities until it took off.

They will get a large chunk because they will buy from as many sources as they can. When the first batch is gone, they will pay more and rebuy and then you all will pay more. It's really that simple.

Cujobyte · 09-06-2012, 05:40 PM

I personally think BO will only sell by the box. IF they sell by the case, it will be less than 5 cases. But I seriously think they'll only sell by the box.

The Madbacker · 09-06-2012, 08:15 PM

Good luck to all.........

THE_BEAST · 09-06-2012, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Madbacker

Good luck to all.........

Why did you edit your post about solars guarantee?

The Madbacker · 09-06-2012, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by THE_BEAST

Why did you edit your post about solars guarantee?

Didn't seem right to beat up on Distributers anymore.

What's gonna happen is what's gonna happen..........

THE_BEAST · 09-06-2012, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Madbacker

Didn't seem right to beat up on Distributers anymore.

What's gonna happen is what's gonna happen..........

I smell a conspiracy in the making

Cujobyte · 09-07-2012, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by The Madbacker

Didn't seem right to beat up on Distributers anymore.

What's gonna happen is what's gonna happen..........

Not exactly sure what you had written, although I do remember it was in regards to Matt's policy.

I for one think that the distributors I've dealt with are doing a fantastic job, all things considering. And am very thankful to them.

SerialKilnWalkr · 09-07-2012, 01:27 AM

Well, hopefully we have good news in the morning here at BO

icancu202 · 09-07-2012, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SerialKilnWalkr

Well, hopefully we have good news in the morning here at BO

Same here...I don't know how much longer I can take being on the edge of my seat waiting for these presells.

icancu202 · 09-07-2012, 07:53 AM

Just got this e-mail from them:

"Thanks for the emails! Still no allocation, but we hope to have some up on the site sometime next week.

thanks!
Danny"

SerialKilnWalkr · 09-07-2012, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by icancu202

Just got this e-mail from them:

"Thanks for the emails! Still no allocation, but we hope to have some up on the site sometime next week.

thanks!
Danny"

Except they have the allocations that is why they can say next week is when they will be putting them up, well I guess back at it Monday.

icancu202 · 09-07-2012, 07:57 AM

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Except they have the allocations that is why they can say next week is when they will be putting them up, well I guess back at it Monday.

If they have allocations...then why not put it up for sale already?

durstlimpbizkit · 09-07-2012, 08:10 AM

I look at the allocations right now as asking questions to your ex after a break-up.

Each question you ask leads to another question. Let's just be patient on this one.

Tim · 09-07-2012, 08:35 AM

I just noticed that Breygent's "World of Fantasy" titled thread could apply to this one as well.

The Madbacker · 09-07-2012, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by icancu202

Just got this e-mail from them:

"Thanks for the emails! Still no allocation, but we hope to have some up on the site sometime next week.

thanks!
Danny"

That is not true. They're trying to get more product while doing cost benefit to holding cases back.

Getting just as bad as D&A.

And yes, I am calling BO out, on BO's board. Just tell the truth. THe product is extremely limited and you're trying to figure out the best course of action.

t2554 · 09-07-2012, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by The Madbacker

That is not true. They're trying to get more product while doing cost benefit to holding cases back.

Getting just as bad as D&A.

And yes, I am calling BO out, on BO's board. Just tell the truth. THe product is extremely limited and you're trying to figure out the best course of action.

I don't doubt that at all. And if they do decide to offer a few cases you can be sure it will be for a premium.

The Madbacker · 09-07-2012, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by t2554

I don't doubt that at all. And if they do decide to offer a few cases you can be sure it will be for a premium.

Seriously, BO used to be the "Good Guys"; above reproach when it came to comparisons of D&A and Atlanta Sportscards.

In the end, they're all the same.

icancu202 · 09-07-2012, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by The Madbacker

That is not true. They're trying to get more product while doing cost benefit to holding cases back.

Getting just as bad as D&A.

And yes, I am calling BO out, on BO's board. Just tell the truth. THe product is extremely limited and you're trying to figure out the best course of action.

Yeah, I'm starting to think the same as well. While I can understand the reasoning behind making a profit...making us all constantly wait, when we have no understanding of a specific date or time, is just flat out ridiculous. I can't be around my computer all morning, hoping something will appear, every single day. I have work like most people that I have to go to. I know there's a lot of speculation going around lately...but it's just REALLY weird that EVERY other competitor got their allocations, yet Blowout doesn't? Doesn't make sense. I just hope I'm not being lied to because it's just wasting my time and everyone else's time who wants this product just as much as I do!

aggie4ever · 09-07-2012, 10:14 AM

I'm sure BO received their direct allocation from Cryptozoic. But I would guess it was fairly low (at least a lot lower than what the apparent demand is), and so BO is waiting to see what their allocations and prices from various distributors will be before putting any up for pre-sell.

The last product that was in really high demand and that was highly allocated was the Walking Dead comic cards. I don't remember ever seeing BO pre-selling that product, but of course I wasn't specifically looking for those pre-sells, so maybe I missed it. Does anyone know if BO pre-sold the WD comic set, and if so how long did it take before they sold out?

The Madbacker · 09-07-2012, 10:27 AM

I hold Cryptozoic to just as much fault. My understanding is that they've barely raised the production because they want their items to be "collectible".

"Collectible" and "Rare" don't always go hand-in-hand. You can have a collectible product with a high production run. You can cut the Autos to 1 every 2 boxes while upping the Sketches to 2/case. This is a rare occurrence where that would work. Enough to satisfy sellers, collectors and flippers and not make all 3 royally pissed off at you.

Again, I made the mistake that CZE was a company that actually cared about collectors and made products that people wanted, all while making a profit that they do deserve. This tells me that they just want to F*** with people with a big smirk on their faces.

So, in addition to the retailers crapping on the collectors, we now have the company crapping on collectors. Is Richard McWilliam running CZE? I've gotten more and more away from Sports cards because of the corruption and terrible quality. Now, I see the beginnings of the same thing happening here. This strategy will surely backfire on CZE.

I await the response from CZE.

BengalsJayhawks · 09-07-2012, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by The Madbacker

I hold Cryptozoic to just as much fault. My understanding is that they've barely raised the production because they want their items to be "collectible".

"Collectible" and "Rare" don't always go hand-in-hand. You can have a collectible product with a high production run. You can cut the Autos to 1 every 2 boxes while upping the Sketches to 2/case. This is a rare occurrence where that would work. Enough to satisfy sellers, collectors and flippers and not make all 3 royally pissed off at you.

Again, I made the mistake that CZE was a company that actually cared about collectors and made products that people wanted, all while making a profit that they do deserve. This tells me that they just want to F*** with people with a big smirk on their faces.

So, in addition to the retailers crapping on the collectors, we now have the company crapping on collectors. Is Richard McWilliam running CZE?

I await the response from CZE.

Im actually happy with what Cryptozoic is doing. To many times companies go for the money grab and just crank the presses with no regard to the quality or collectibility of the product. Crypto is keeping the print run low and producing a quality product. Id rather open that one box packed with an autograph and two wardrobe cards for the $90.00, rather then a box that is watered down to stretch the product further then it should be and it might have an autograph and one wardrobe card. I don't see why Crypto should care about the flippers at all. They're not in the business to have other people profit off their product by hoarding the product and selling it at jacked up prices later. We complain all the time about cards not being worth anything cause they are overproduced. Cryptozoic is listening and making a product that is hot, collectible, and somewhat rare. I hope they continue to do this and have no problem with it.

Zerokruel · 09-07-2012, 10:50 AM

I'm not sure if it is so much Cryptozoic that is holding back production. I know that when it comes to the Comic Book - they don't do second or third printings (I think?) - it's just they way they operate. So this sort of plays along with the way the Walking Dead brand has always been - in my opinion.

But I do understand the frustration. I guess what I am trying to say, I don't think this might all lay in the hands of Cryptozoic.

Brobocop · 09-07-2012, 10:54 AM

I don't blame Cryptozic at all either on this. They might not have the resources available to really crank the presses especially with Big Bang coming out right around the same time. I can't blame Blowout either because they are a business and want to make sure their customers are happy and taken care of. I don't know if you can really blame anyone or anything for this. Maybe a solution would be for something this hot one per customer on all sites. Not sure how you'd really enforce that but you'd at least give the collectors a chance to get in on the fun and not miss out because someone with deeper pockets can afford 10,20 plus cases just to flip or hold on and sell later. I don't even blame them because it's what they do, I just don't think there is a real solution that makes everyone happy on this one.

BengalsJayhawks · 09-07-2012, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Zerokruel

I'm not sure if it is so much Cryptozoic that is holding back production. I know that when it comes to the Comic Book - they don't do second or third printings (I think?) - it's just they way they operate. So this sort of plays along with the way the Walking Dead brand has always been - in my opinion.

But I do understand the frustration. I guess what I am trying to say, I don't think this might all lay in the hands of Cryptozoic.

No with the comics they have done quite a few second printings.

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The Madbacker Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: COS, CO Posts: 7,401 themadbacker	Good luck to all......... Last edited by The Madbacker; 09-06-2012 at 09:49 PM.

09-07-2012, 10:27 AM	#446
The Madbacker Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: COS, CO Posts: 7,401 themadbacker	I hold Cryptozoic to just as much fault. My understanding is that they've barely raised the production because they want their items to be "collectible". "Collectible" and "Rare" don't always go hand-in-hand. You can have a collectible product with a high production run. You can cut the Autos to 1 every 2 boxes while upping the Sketches to 2/case. This is a rare occurrence where that would work. Enough to satisfy sellers, collectors and flippers and not make all 3 royally pissed off at you. Again, I made the mistake that CZE was a company that actually cared about collectors and made products that people wanted, all while making a profit that they do deserve. This tells me that they just want to F*** with people with a big smirk on their faces. So, in addition to the retailers crapping on the collectors, we now have the company crapping on collectors. Is Richard McWilliam running CZE? I've gotten more and more away from Sports cards because of the corruption and terrible quality. Now, I see the beginnings of the same thing happening here. This strategy will surely backfire on CZE. I await the response from CZE. Last edited by The Madbacker; 09-07-2012 at 10:40 AM.

09-07-2012, 10:50 AM	#448
Zerokruel Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Amarillo, Texas Posts: 6,520 zerokruel	I'm not sure if it is so much Cryptozoic that is holding back production. I know that when it comes to the Comic Book - they don't do second or third printings (I think?) - it's just they way they operate. So this sort of plays along with the way the Walking Dead brand has always been - in my opinion. But I do understand the frustration. I guess what I am trying to say, I don't think this might all lay in the hands of Cryptozoic. __________________ Currently looking for the following comic Books: United Comics: 21,22,23,24,26 Tip Top: 173 & 184 Peanuts 1 (1953) Peanuts: 1-4 (1963-64) Last edited by Zerokruel; 09-07-2012 at 10:53 AM.

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Brobocop Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 12,989 brobocop2	I don't blame Cryptozic at all either on this. They might not have the resources available to really crank the presses especially with Big Bang coming out right around the same time. I can't blame Blowout either because they are a business and want to make sure their customers are happy and taken care of. I don't know if you can really blame anyone or anything for this. Maybe a solution would be for something this hot one per customer on all sites. Not sure how you'd really enforce that but you'd at least give the collectors a chance to get in on the fun and not miss out because someone with deeper pockets can afford 10,20 plus cases just to flip or hold on and sell later. I don't even blame them because it's what they do, I just don't think there is a real solution that makes everyone happy on this one. Last edited by Brobocop; 09-07-2012 at 10:56 AM. Reason: Clarification

09-06-2012, 02:19 PM	#426
Brobocop Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 12,989 brobocop2	I would be surprised if Blowout did not get the biggest chunk of allocation. They have been behind each and every Cryptozoic release so far. They are also arguably the largest internet retailer of trading cards. So that leads me to believe they will get a big chunk and will hopefully have a fair amount of cases and boxes for sale and for reasonable prices.

09-06-2012, 05:40 PM	#428
Cujobyte Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: New Mexico Posts: 6,627 Cujobyte29	I personally think BO will only sell by the box. IF they sell by the case, it will be less than 5 cases. But I seriously think they'll only sell by the box.

09-07-2012, 01:27 AM	#434
SerialKilnWalkr Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 4,852	Well, hopefully we have good news in the morning here at BO

09-07-2012, 07:53 AM	#436
icancu202 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Chicopee, MA Posts: 1,269 icancu202	Just got this e-mail from them: "Thanks for the emails! Still no allocation, but we hope to have some up on the site sometime next week. thanks! Danny"

09-07-2012, 08:10 AM	#439
durstlimpbizkit Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 488 durstlimpbizkit	I look at the allocations right now as asking questions to your ex after a break-up. Each question you ask leads to another question. Let's just be patient on this one.

09-07-2012, 08:35 AM	#440
Tim Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 6,445	I just noticed that Breygent's "World of Fantasy" titled thread could apply to this one as well.

09-07-2012, 10:14 AM	#445
aggie4ever Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 6,599 aggie4ever	I'm sure BO received their direct allocation from Cryptozoic. But I would guess it was fairly low (at least a lot lower than what the apparent demand is), and so BO is waiting to see what their allocations and prices from various distributors will be before putting any up for pre-sell. The last product that was in really high demand and that was highly allocated was the Walking Dead comic cards. I don't remember ever seeing BO pre-selling that product, but of course I wasn't specifically looking for those pre-sells, so maybe I missed it. Does anyone know if BO pre-sold the WD comic set, and if so how long did it take before they sold out?