AL MVP- Trout or Cabrera

mnvikingstwins · 10-01-2012, 06:48 PM

Who wins it?

RedSoxFan28 · 10-01-2012, 06:49 PM

Jose Iglesias!

Hollenbackcards · 10-01-2012, 06:51 PM

Trout!!!!!!!!!!!! No Angels Bias here

rudyjustinfarrell · 10-01-2012, 06:56 PM

I don't own any Miggy stuff.. so I vote TROUT

mgugs46 · 10-01-2012, 06:57 PM

If Cabrera wins the triple crown, he's got the MVP IMO. If no, I think Trout.

MarshallCutler6 · 10-01-2012, 06:58 PM

Triple Crown + Playoffs= MVP

Theres really no dobut in my mind about this one, Trouts a great story, And Will Be ROy and probably win quite a few MVPs in the future, But Miggy is the MVP.

pmannings#1fan · 10-01-2012, 06:59 PM

I gotta go with Cabrera on this one.

RedSoxFan28 · 10-01-2012, 06:59 PM

Am I the only one to vote for "Other"?

CALVINXLIONSX81 · 10-01-2012, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RedSoxFan28

Am I the only one to vote for "Other"?

Who the heck is the "Other"?

GoJays · 10-01-2012, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CALVINXLIONSX81

Who the heck is the "Other"?

Edwin Encarnacion

CALVINXLIONSX81 · 10-01-2012, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GoJays

Edwin Encarnacion

Ohhhh, If it was Travis Snider then you could make the Argument

JohnnysBench · 10-01-2012, 07:07 PM

Weird to say, but I HOPE Trout because it will be more Ignition for the hobby. However Cabrera has earned the M.V.P this year IMO...

GoJays · 10-01-2012, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CALVINXLIONSX81

Ohhhh, If it was Travis Snider then you could make the Argument

He's with Pittsburgh now, remember

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Besides, how many awards can this guy get? Catch of the Year, Sexiest Man Alive (at least on this forum). The guy can't lose!

CALVINXLIONSX81 · 10-01-2012, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GoJays

He's with Pittsburgh now, remember

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Besides, how many awards can this guy get? Catch of the Year, Sexiest Man Alive (at least on this forum). The guy can't lose!

Doesn't mean he can win both MVP's

RedSoxFan28 · 10-01-2012, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CALVINXLIONSX81

Who the heck is the "Other"?

Jose Iglesias, how does he not get your vote??? A .123 BA, 1 HR, 1 RBI, 7 Hits, 5 Runs, .211 SLG, .219 OBP in 22 games, MVP...MVP....MVP....MVP

CALVINXLIONSX81 · 10-01-2012, 08:33 PM

MIGGY HOME RUN

mnvikingstwins · 10-01-2012, 08:44 PM

Mauer 1-4, looking good for the Triple Crown. However, Mauer should drop down a few bunts with the shift going against him.

Ryan T. · 10-01-2012, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

Mauer 1-4, looking good for the Triple Crown. However, Mauer should drop down a few bunts with the shift going against him.

I always wondered why more players don't do that against that ridiculous shift. Not only do you get a couple cheap hits, but then the defense has to play for the bunt also and you take away their shift.

kordell1 · 10-01-2012, 11:33 PM

Trout is having a great season but Cabrera deserves the MVP. September is enough for me. While both teams were fighting to get into the playoffs, Trout batted .257 with 6 RBIs in September and his team is pretty much out of it while Cabrera batted .308 with 10 HRs and 27 RBIs to help push Detroit into the playoffs.

alwayson22 · 10-02-2012, 12:43 AM

For 2012, Mike Trout was the best player in baseball.

DtigersFan · 10-02-2012, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by alwayson22

For 2012, Mike Trout was the best player in baseball.

He had a great season and one of the best ever by a rookie, but he did not have the best season. I think even Trout himself would tell you that Cabrera had the better season and led his team into the playoffs.

JohnAndrew · 10-02-2012, 12:51 AM

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He had a great season and one of the best ever by a rookie, but he did not have the best season. I think even Trout himself would tell you that Cabrera had the better season and led his team into the playoffs.

Bold statement from a Tigers fan.

Justin Verlander did more to get the Tigers to the playoffs than Cabrera did. There, I said it.

DtigersFan · 10-02-2012, 01:05 AM

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Bold statement from a Tigers fan.

Justin Verlander did more to get the Tigers to the playoffs than Cabrera did. There, I said it.

Verlander has said several times that Miggy should be the MVP, opposing teams say there is no argument that Miggy is the MVP. Fielder even said in a postgame interview that he is playing a complimentary role to Cabrera and that the Tigers is Cabrera's team. I know these guys are trying to promote their teammate, but they seem sincere that Miggy is the most deserving. And to quote the great Jeff Passan "it takes one to know one" and if Verlander agrees that Cabbie is the MVP then he is.

JohnAndrew · 10-02-2012, 01:30 AM

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Verlander has said several times that Miggy should be the MVP, opposing teams say there is no argument that Miggy is the MVP. Fielder even said in a postgame interview that he is playing a complimentary role to Cabrera and that the Tigers is Cabrera's team. I know these guys are trying to promote their teammate, but they seem sincere that Miggy is the most deserving. And to quote the great Jeff Passan "it takes one to know one" and if Verlander agrees that Cabbie is the MVP then he is.

Is this for real? Cabrera is MVP because Verlander said so?

I suppose Pujols should throw his weight behind Trout, and then what? The guy has won the damn thing more times than I care to count, so clearly he must know.

Let's be honest: what else is Justin supposed to say? "I threw nearly 240 innings of 2.62 ERA ball, so I, of course, am the MVP.

These guys get special media training that encourages them to downplay their own achievements and focus on their teammates. Of course Justin and Prince are gonna shower their possible Triple Crown winner with praise -- they've basically been trained to do so.

The ironic thing is that you can argue that Cabrera's 2011 campaign was better than his 2012 -- Verlander was just so ridiculous that no one remembers it. This will continue to be Justin's team and he'll keep Jimmy Leyland off the hot seat as long as he continues to carry the team on his back.

DtigersFan · 10-02-2012, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnAndrew

Is this for real? Cabrera is MVP because Verlander said so?

I suppose Pujols should throw his weight behind Trout, and then what? The guy has won the damn thing more times than I care to count, so clearly he must know.

Let's be honest: what else is Justin supposed to say? "I threw nearly 240 innings of 2.62 ERA ball, so I, of course, am the MVP.

These guys get special media training that encourages them to downplay their own achievements and focus on their teammates. Of course Justin and Prince are gonna shower their possible Triple Crown winner with praise -- they've basically been trained to do so.

The ironic thing is that you can argue that Cabrera's 2011 campaign was better than his 2012 -- Verlander was just so ridiculous that no one remembers it. This will continue to be Justin's team and he'll keep Jimmy Leyland off the hot seat as long as he continues to carry the team on his back.

I'm not saying that Verlander won't get votes as he won it last year and has almost identical stats this year other than having less wins. I would love to see Verlander win it again, but it is Miggy's year to win it as he will probably be the first triple crown winner in 45 years, and it is more difficult to lead all 3 categories in 2012 than it was back then. Just speaking statistically when was the last time that a pitcher won back to back MVP awards? I'm not saying it can't happen, because I know JV is a special pitcher, but statistics tell us that an everyday player will most likely win the MVP and Cabrera is the everyday player that is most deserving of the award, just look at the poll in this thread.

View Poll Results: Who wins the AL MVP?
Mike Trout	107	39.48%
Miguel Cabrera	160	59.04%
Other	4	1.48%
Voters: 271. You may not vote on this poll

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pmannings#1fan Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 8,650 justincaseyouwannaknow	I gotta go with Cabrera on this one. __________________ PC: Longoria, Tulowitzki, Kemp, Pujols, Griffey Jr, Randy Johnson, Chipper Jones, Helton, Biggio, Bagwell, Giancarlo (Mike) Stanton, Votto, Derek Jeter I trade by BV http://southernsportscards.webs.com/

10-01-2012, 06:48 PM	#1
mnvikingstwins Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 41,970 ski_4 ski_4	AL MVP- Trout or Cabrera Who wins it?

10-01-2012, 06:51 PM	#3
Hollenbackcards Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: OC, CA Posts: 825	Trout!!!!!!!!!!!! No Angels Bias here

10-01-2012, 06:58 PM	#6
MarshallCutler6 Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 9,889	Triple Crown + Playoffs= MVP Theres really no dobut in my mind about this one, Trouts a great story, And Will Be ROy and probably win quite a few MVPs in the future, But Miggy is the MVP.

10-01-2012, 06:59 PM	#8
RedSoxFan28 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Maine Posts: 12,545	Am I the only one to vote for "Other"? __________________ #FreeBrady

10-01-2012, 07:07 PM	#12
JohnnysBench Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Back in Nats Country!!! Posts: 3,376	Weird to say, but I HOPE Trout because it will be more Ignition for the hobby. However Cabrera has earned the M.V.P this year IMO... __________________ " I hate ALL hitters, I start a game mad and stay that way until it's over..." (Don Drysdale)

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CALVINXLIONSX81 Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 8,668	MIGGY HOME RUN __________________ Dream Card - Purchased! Ziggy is the Ansah!

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mnvikingstwins Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 41,970 ski_4 ski_4	Mauer 1-4, looking good for the Triple Crown. However, Mauer should drop down a few bunts with the shift going against him.

10-01-2012, 11:33 PM	#19
kordell1 Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Carrollton, TX Posts: 2,393 kordell1	Trout is having a great season but Cabrera deserves the MVP. September is enough for me. While both teams were fighting to get into the playoffs, Trout batted .257 with 6 RBIs in September and his team is pretty much out of it while Cabrera batted .308 with 10 HRs and 27 RBIs to help push Detroit into the playoffs.

10-02-2012, 12:43 AM	#20
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