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08-01-2010, 12:47 AM | #1 |
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I Guess I'll be keeping my Contenders Set.....
It's moron sellers like this guy that ruin any type of value in the hobby.....
2009/10 PANINI CONTENDERS COMPLETE RC AUTO SET TYREKE - eBay (item 180536310852 end time Jul-26-10 18:00:12 PDT) |
08-01-2010, 12:58 AM | #2 |
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Why do you think that auction/seller devalues the market? Can you provide some detail so I understand where you are coming from. Thanks.
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08-01-2010, 01:04 AM | #3 |
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Probably cause if the seller just sold each card by itself he would have gotten the $306 from just the Tyreke, Griffin, Curry, and Jennings alone
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that completed listing will now be a lowballer's armory during negotiations
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08-01-2010, 09:36 AM | #5 | |
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There are some more decent cards and some SP's - but also a lot of $1-3 type auto's. That being said - I would have thought it would go for a bit more. And I really don't see how in any possible way someone could blame the seller.....he's probably pissed too. All he did was put his cards/set up for auction on the open market. I mean no one bid when he had it up for $399. If you need cash or want to sell - at a certain point you usually just let it run on auction and hope for the best. Not that anyone's to "blame".....but why would it be any seller's fault that buyer's are paying pennies on the dollar for basketball cards this year? |
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08-01-2010, 09:56 AM | #8 |
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It all comes down to there is no nba games playing right now. If he would of waited till the season starts it would of gone for more. I never understand people selling stuff in the off season. Now is the time to dump baseball then next month Football and then Basketball. Way to early to be selling Basketball right now unless it's the 2010-2011 class.
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08-01-2010, 10:00 AM | #9 |
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If everyone keeps prices up then buyers will have no choice but to pay the asking price, it's the "Burbank Sportscards" method of selling.
All it takes is one dip to lower his prices and devalue items for every other seller. I realize that most of you are vultures, picking at carcasses for what you want and considering saving $1.00 a GREAT SUCCESS but it kills the retail aspect of the business. It's the flea market mentality that drives me nuts. If I want something I just buy it with little hesitation as to the price. It's you commoners that haggle over $2 that make me crazy. Everybody is so cheap nowadays. |
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09/10 Contenders SET 1-150 Tyreke Evans Auto ALL SP RCs - eBay (item 380254610795 end time Jul-29-10 09:17:14 PDT) |
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08-01-2010, 10:07 AM | #11 |
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08-01-2010, 10:19 AM | #13 |
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Items are worth what people are willing to pay. The guy obviously had a fixed price on the item and NOBODY wanted it. People like to move or turn inventory so why blame the guy for listing auction style.
While I get the OP hates "commoners", but people who list things at 3x or more over market value on eBay arent perfect either. Not sure why you feel ANYONE would want that set for $850. Trying to take someone to the cleaners on a basketball set is worse than someone selling it and letting the market decide the price isnt it? |
08-01-2010, 10:29 AM | #14 |
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Your comment is only half true. The other half is:
Items are worth what people are willing to sell them for. And to further comment on that selling price and the winning bidder...How do we know he won it for what "he was willing to pay"? I have brought this up before. Just because an auction ends at a certain amount does not mean that's all the winning bidder was willing to pay. I will guess that in 95% of all auctions, the winning bidder actually bid more than what the item sold for. Therefore, according to your post above, cards in all of these auctions are worth more than the final sales price. Just recently, I have bid on a few auctions where I place bids in excess of $500. Each of those auctions I won for under $200. Now, are those cards only worth less than $200, or are they worth at least $500, "what I was willing to pay"? |
08-01-2010, 10:35 AM | #15 | |
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hmmmmm, i would have to say less than $200 seeing as you were the only person willing to pay more than $500, hence you winning the auctions for only $200!!! does that make sense to you????
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An item is only worth what someone else is willing to pay as long as another someone else is willing to pay that same amount or only "slightly" less? |
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08-01-2010, 10:41 AM | #18 |
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Nope no change needed. I'm pretty comfortable with my reply of it is what it is at time of sale but you can spin it however you'd like if it makes you feel right about the matter.
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08-01-2010, 10:56 AM | #19 |
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LOL...Care to attempt to define the "value of a card"? I'd love to see your version of the definition.
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I pulled a 2/2 Darren Collison die-cut out of 09/10 Elite back in March. It was a sweet card, not auto'd, but very low S/N, and I had the card S/N'd to his jersey number.
Someone on this forum wanted to buy it and asked for a price. I came up with $400 - based on what I knew about the market, which was nothing, I collected years ago when Beckett numbers meant something and was new back to the hobby. I did some looking on Ebay completed sales, and the $400 was higher than everything else, but I thought what the heck, the buyer can counter my offer. The buyer never responded to the $400 offer. So I posted the card on Ebay a couple of weeks later, $0.99 7 day auction ending Sunday night. This is during the NBA season, fairly soon after Collison's name was starting to be mentioned in Rookie of the Year talk. Perfect time to sell! Lots of people were watching the auction, it had 75-80 views, 15-20 watchers, and it was gaining momentum into the final day of the auction. I even told relatives to watch the item, it should sell pretty good. Bidding was very active in the last few minutes of the auction, going back and forth between 3-4 buyers, bumping up the final auction price to a grand total of..... $24.61. $24.61 is what that Collison card was worth on that day to the 10's of many buyers that were watching the auction. My $400 number was a complete fabrication in my own mind and not based in reality. I learned a lot about the current basketball card market that day. |
08-01-2010, 10:59 AM | #21 | |
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If the same card that sold at auction for $200 would have been placed in a BIN setting instead for $500, and someone bought it for $500, what's the card worth? I can absolutely prove that there are recent cards that sold for less than I was willing to bid. A LOT less. So I don't believe your comment above regarding "sell value" is accurate. I think your comment above is more a definition of a seller not knowing what his cards are worth. |
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08-01-2010, 11:08 AM | #22 |
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Huge difference in reality and perception. You can think what you wish to sell is worth $500. but if nobody is paying more than $200. then guess what ?
Using common sense and your numbers here is reality. The fact that ONE person is willing to pay $500 for something that the rest of the buying public will only pay $200 does not make the item worth $500. if everyone else is getting theirs at $200. It just makes the guy paying $500. look stupid for paying $500. for something he can buy at $200.
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08-01-2010, 11:12 AM | #23 | |
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So what if only two people bid on that card? Me at $500 and the other guy at $200. The auction started at 99cents. Is the card worth $200 because 2 people were willing to pay that much? Does it only take two people to determine the card's worth since you're saying 1 is not enough? Had I not seen the auction, and it sold for 99cents, would that same card only be worth 99cents? |
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