View Full Version : Wilbon's opinion on Kyrie's play in gm 4
hquiz
06-11-2016, 09:14 AM
Wilbon: Irving played 'most selfish basketball I can remember' - ESPN Video (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=16114636&ex_cid=espnapi_internal)
zacsoccer6
06-11-2016, 09:25 AM
Wilbon: Irving played 'most selfish basketball I can remember' - ESPN Video (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=16114636&ex_cid=espnapi_internal)
Can't believe all they are talking about is Kyrie taking bad shots instead of Lebron turning the ball over 7 times, missing 2 of 4 foul shots, and shooting 5 3's when he 32% in the playoffs from 3. Media never puts anything on Lebron's shoulders.
Nyfancam01
06-11-2016, 09:28 AM
Can't believe all they are talking about is Kyrie taking bad shots instead of Lebron turning the ball over 7 times, missing 2 of 4 foul shots, and shooting 5 3's when he 32% in the playoffs from 3. Media never puts anything on Lebron's shoulders.
this might be the absolute dumbest thing i've ever read on this site.. or the entire internet actually.
Zacy87
06-11-2016, 09:41 AM
Can't believe all they are talking about is Kyrie taking bad shots instead of Lebron turning the ball over 7 times, missing 2 of 4 foul shots, and shooting 5 3's when he 32% in the playoffs from 3. Media never puts anything on Lebron's shoulders.
this might be the absolute dumbest thing i've ever read on this site.. or the entire internet actually.
Wait did you really just say that? The media never puts anything on LeBrons shoulders??? What rock are you living under.:doh:
JustinVerlander07
06-11-2016, 09:42 AM
Kyrie had a good individual game, unfortunately it came at the expense of his teammates, so in that aspect Wilbon is actually correct for once.
zacsoccer6
06-11-2016, 09:43 AM
this might be the absolute dumbest thing i've ever read on this site.. or the entire internet actually.
Is it? Who's fault was game 1 and 2? All I heard was that Lebron didn't have the supporting cast that he had in years past. Have seen multiple people blame Kyrie who kept the team in the game in the first half as the reason they lost game 4.
6celtics33
06-11-2016, 09:44 AM
this might be the absolute dumbest thing i've ever read on this site.. or the entire internet actually.
Read crazier stuff posted by you this morning already
Nyfancam01
06-11-2016, 09:45 AM
Read crazier stuff posted by you this morning already
like i care what you think lol.
i don't even know who you are??? who are you???
:rolleyes:
aro13
06-11-2016, 09:45 AM
Like most members of the media he is just making a statement so people will comment on it and create controversy. Nothing more, nothing less. Far more controversial to blame Irving or Lebron then to just say Golden State played better.
6celtics33
06-11-2016, 09:46 AM
like i care what you think lol.
i don't even know who you are??? who are you???
:rolleyes:
I'm the zig zag man. Who the f are you?
JustinVerlander07
06-11-2016, 09:48 AM
Like most members of the media he is just making a statement so people will comment on it and create controversy. Nothing more, nothing less. Far more controversial to blame Irving or Lebron then to just say Golden State played better.
Kyrie literally only passed last night when he had no other option. Extremely selfish.
Nyfancam01
06-11-2016, 09:49 AM
I'm the zig zag man. Who the f are you?
haha nice.
I'm also the zig zag man.
zacsoccer6
06-11-2016, 09:52 AM
Kyrie literally only passed last night when he had no other option. Extremely selfish.
He is also the only one who had a jumper at all during the game.
NoleinJax
06-11-2016, 10:01 AM
I thought Kyrie played well until the 4th and then all the Cavs played poorly when they got down and Kryie had a few bad possessions where he was trying to play 1 on 5 which played right into the Warriors hands. With about 6 minutes left the Warriors went up by 9 leading 93-84. The Warriors only scored 3 points over the next 5 minutes, but the Cavs could only muster 5 points themselves because they basically panicked imo because they are not a comeback team like the Warriors. They also looked gassed in the 4th. I wonder how Lue's postgame comments will go over with the Cavs players?
zacsoccer6
06-11-2016, 10:14 AM
I thought Kyrie played well until the 4th and then all the Cavs played poorly when they got down and Kryie had a few bad possessions where he was trying to play 1 on 5 which played right into the Warriors hands. With about 6 minutes left the Warriors went up by 9 leading 93-84. The Warriors only scored 3 points over the next 5 minutes, but the Cavs could only muster 5 points themselves because they basically panicked imo because they are not a comeback team like the Warriors. They also looked gassed in the 4th. I wonder how Lue's postgame comments will go over with the Cavs players?
Well no team has came back from 3-1 in the finals and this isn't like the warriors come back last round where 2 of the games were at home. Lue has to try whatever to save his job and spark a fire in his team.
Orangejello727
06-11-2016, 10:22 AM
I hope Green is not suspended after what Lebron said yesterday. It all started with lebron stepping over Green. That is the ultimate disrespect to a player when he is down. Never walk over him. Then Green was getting up, I saw an attempt at a nut tap and thats what I think set off Lebron. I hope Lebron didnt instigate that on purpose to have him booted. In the post game, he sure tried to make a case for it.
jbmets95
06-11-2016, 10:22 AM
I couldn't agree with Wilbon more....
His style of play is a disaster
dcarado
06-11-2016, 10:31 AM
So when they win game 3, Kyrie is fantastic for playing more aggressive and giving the Cavs the offensive boost they needed after getting blown out games 1 and 2, but when they lose game 4, now Kyrie is selfish.
Game 3 - 12/25, 30 pts, 8 ast
Game 4 - 14/28, 34 pts, 4 ast
:doh:
Hmmm, who else can we blame today for Lebron losing...
zacsoccer6
06-11-2016, 10:35 AM
So when they win game 3, Kyrie is fantastic for playing more aggressive and giving the Cavs the offensive boost they needed after getting blown out games 1 and 2, but when they lose game 4, now Kyrie is selfish.
Game 3 - 12/25, 30 pts, 8 ast
Game 4 - 14/28, 34 pts, 4 ast
:doh:
Hmmm, who else can we blame today for Lebron losing...
Thought I was the only one who felt this way...
zacsoccer6
06-11-2016, 10:38 AM
I hope Green is not suspended after what Lebron said yesterday. It all started with lebron stepping over Green. That is the ultimate disrespect to a player when he is down. Never walk over him. Then Green was getting up, I saw an attempt at a nut tap and thats what I think set off Lebron. I hope Lebron didnt instigate that on purpose to have him booted. In the post game, he sure tried to make a case for it.
It all started with an illegal screen by Green, then Lebron pushed him over, to top it off then Lebron tried to pull a Iverson and got bag tagged. Crazy set of circumstance, especially with the one ref 5 feet away watching them do this instead of the actual game and never blowing his whistle.
jhill80
06-11-2016, 10:47 AM
I thought Kyrie had a good game. The cavs need him to score like that to have a chance to win. I think it's dumb to blame Kyrie, or Lebron for losing. The Cavs are simply not as good of a team as the Warriors. People shouldn't blame Lebron or Kyrie for their team losing to the team with the best record in NBA history! I wanted the Cavs to win the championship and am a Lebron fan, but I never thought they had a chance to beat the Warriors in this series before it started.
TBarn291
06-11-2016, 11:01 AM
Can't believe all they are talking about is Kyrie taking bad shots instead of Lebron turning the ball over 7 times, missing 2 of 4 foul shots, and shooting 5 3's when he 32% in the playoffs from 3. Media never puts anything on Lebron's shoulders.
Yeah it's stupid to try and place blame on Kyrie. I lay this one squarely on Lebron.
GC1980
06-11-2016, 11:27 AM
Considering lebron didn't seem to want to take over or lead the team I guess kyrie decided to. At some point the star and consensus blowout goat needs to dominate the game and lead his team to victory. But hey, he has some nice stats after those 6-7 junk time points so lebron wasn't the problem.
aro13
06-11-2016, 01:53 PM
Since Wilbon focused on the 4th quarter and claimed he over-handled the ball and took shots early in the shot clock it is easy to refute that.
In the quarter he shot 3 for 10.
He missed two 3 pointers one with 5 seconds on the shot clock and the other with 1.
He missed one 5 footer and one 3 footer.
He missed 3 lay-ups one of which was a great block by Klay Thompson.
I am not certain how any of those could be construed as bad shots given the situation.
Lebron kept driving into the lane or posting up people half his size and kicking the ball out. Not certain how him not shooting in those situations deserves less scrutiny then Irving driving to the hoop and trying to finish which he did enough to score 7 points in the final quarter and 34 for the game.
LALeakers
06-11-2016, 02:40 PM
ESPN is the new TMZ
Rabie1
06-11-2016, 02:57 PM
this might be the absolute dumbest thing i've ever read on this site.. or the entire internet actually.
False. The dumbest things you could have ever read on this site is everything you post.
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hairyangryfella
06-11-2016, 04:25 PM
this might be the absolute dumbest thing i've ever read on this site.. or the entire internet actually.
Oh please.
Lebron had a poor game (when you look at more than just his pts/reb/ast numbers) and because he refused to try to take control and Kyrie did, Kyrie gets blamed?
Cavs fans blame Lebron.
Lebron fans blame anybody else, in this instance it's Kyrie.
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