Drew Brees & Tom Brady

[Drdduet]

NFL Career Passing Yards Leaders

1. Peyton Manning 71940
2. Brett Favre 71838
3. Dan Marino 61361
4. Drew Brees 60903
5. Tom Brady 58028

NFL Career Passing TD Leaders

1. Peyton Manning 530
2. Brett Favre 508
3. Tom Brady 428
4. Drew Brees 428


Does Brees or Brady pass Manning and become the all time leader in passing yards before their careers are done? Do they both? or just one?

Does Brees or Brady become the all time leader in passing TD's by the time their careers are over?

If they each get in another 3 years, it will be interesting….

[Ray27Ray52]

Both of them pass him in yardage and neither of them pass him in TD's.

[jasonm2121]

Def going to be close in yards, not Super Bowls though

[RogerGodahell]

Brady actually has 428 td's

[jasonm2121]

Brady actually has 428 td's

correct!

[BRADY12GOAT]

Def going to be close in yards, not Super Bowls though

FACTS!

[Drdduet]

Brady actually has 428 td's

I see that now--and so does Brees. Got my information from Pro Football Reference online. Passing yards look correct.

Thanks

[jasonm2121]

FACTS!

I like that actually, Brady has 4 SBs and the others collectively have 4 as well. Need that 5th!

[Ray27Ray52]

Annnndddd this is why I don't frequent the football forum as much anymore.

No one can stay on topic and everytime we are asked to compare players all that is ever mentioned is Super Bowl wins. There is no other major sport where teamwork is more important than individual performance than football. A SB win is a win for the team, not the player.

Rant over.

[coureymarshall]

Peyton - 539 TD passes

[xDomePatrolx]

They are both all-time greats and HOF locks. They can pass Manning in both if they continue on their current paths.

[RogerGodahell]

They'll be there in 3 years. 12,000 yards and 100 td's is very doable. Wins too, Brady needs 14 to tie Manning and Favre. I think Brady will pretty much own all the records and the rings when he's done. They're already the SB favorite again this year. That's why he's the GOAT.

[tnarg]

I'd say both pass them. But I think at the end, Tom holds both records. He's showing zero signs of slowing down.

[devo]

For Brady to pass Manning in these categories, he would need to average 4,637 passing yards and 34 TD's for the next 3 seasons. Sorry, I don't see him doing that at 41 years old.

Of course you'll have the blind Pats homers saying he'll play until he's 50, but history has proven countless times that it's extremely unlikely. Even Michael Jordan couldn't play forever. My money would be on Brees but I don't think he'll pass Peyton in TD's either.

[devo]

Forgot to mention that if Brady's 4 game suspension holds up this season, that will hurt his chances even more. That's taking away ~1,000 passing yards and ~8 TD passes assuming he throws a conservative 250 yards and 2 TD's per game.

[RogerGodahell]

If he keeps playing the way he's playing i don't see why he cant play 3-4 more years. In a lot of ways he keeps getting better. Which is kind of hard to see unless your a Pats fan. I can see it, his footwork is better then it's ever been. The way he slides around in the pocket to avoid the rush. The way he moves receivers around to create the mismatches he wants its like watching Picasso. The amount of time between the snap and when Brady gets rid of the football, has dropped in each of the past five seasons from 2.47 seconds to 2.42, 2.39, 2.34, and 2.26 in 2015. To all quarterbacks out there with bad offensive lines they could learn a thing or two from that. Pats offensive line has been pretty terrible, Brady just knows how to offset that weakness.

[Bassplayah101]

If he keeps playing the way he's playing i don't see why he cant play 3-4 more years. In a lot of ways he keeps getting better. Which is kind of hard to see unless your a Pats fan. I can see it, his footwork is better then it's ever been. The way he slides around in the pocket to avoid the rush. The way he moves receivers around to create the mismatches he wants its like watching Picasso. The amount of time between the snap and when Brady gets rid of the football, has dropped in each of the past five seasons from 2.47 seconds to 2.42, 2.39, 2.34, and 2.26 in 2015. To all quarterbacks out there with bad offensive lines they could learn a thing or two from that. Pats offensive line has been pretty terrible, Brady just knows how to offset that weakness.

FACTS :)

[Mikegioseffi]

i could see brady passing in yardage, but thats all. neither one for brees.
seems like he has been on the slow decline, i kind of expect him to have a peyton like fall off over night this season or the next .

i dont see brady pasisng him in td's though.
but yardage yes

[matt060488]

I'd say both pass them. But I think at the end, Tom holds both records. He's showing zero signs of slowing down.

This may be true but Drew also shows no signs of slowing down...his big injury last year wasn't a sign of age by any means and he is still spot on with his throws. Brees is only 37...Brady is almost 39...

[coureymarshall]

In a lot of ways he keeps getting better. Which is kind of hard to see unless your a Pats fan. I can see it, his footwork is better then it's ever been. The way he slides around in the pocket to avoid the rush. The way he moves receivers around to create the mismatches he wants its like watching Picasso. The amount of time between the snap and when Brady gets rid of the football, has dropped in each of the past five seasons from 2.47 seconds to 2.42, 2.39, 2.34, and 2.26 in 2015.

Definitely agree.


If he keeps playing the way he's playing i don't see why he cant play 3-4 more years.

The same thing could be said about Peyton early on in the 2014 season. It's hard to predict a player's durability/longevity in a physical and demanding league like the NFL. Players can fall off fast.

[matt060488]

i could see brady passing in yardage, but thats all. neither one for brees.
seems like he has been on the slow decline, i kind of expect him to have a peyton like fall off over night this season or the next .

i dont see brady pasisng him in td's though.
but yardage yes
Please check stats and show me the decline if you would be so kind. Brees had one of his best seasons last year while missing one game and playing injured.

[matt060488]

They both have a chance at beating both records but it's amazing how quickly things can change so only time will tell

[Bassplayah101]

They both have a chance at beating both records but it's amazing how quickly things can change so only time will tell

Agreed. One good shot, and its all over.
Beyond that, both guys are machines, and have a very decent chance of doing it.
I am bias, so if anyone's gonna do it, Tommy has my vote.

[RedSoxFan28]

Both will pass him in both.
They would need 4 more years of 3,500 +/- yards and 25-26 TDs

[Drdduet]

I think it sets things up for an interesting next 3 or 4 years with these two guys vying for these records.

Ultimately I believe we'll see Brees with the yardage title when his career is over.

[imbaked247]

Both of them pass him in yardage and neither of them pass him in TD's.

I concur with this. Crazy to see Brees has more yards then Brady. Don't see that TD record getting touched. :)

[49erRCCollector]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say neither breaks either record. I've felt for sometime that Brees was close to his arm starting to show signs of age and I'd bet the same with Brady. Father Time catches up to us all.

[blackbears86]

For Brady to pass Manning in these categories, he would need to average 4,637 passing yards and 34 TD's for the next 3 seasons. Sorry, I don't see him doing that at 41 years old.

Of course you'll have the blind Pats homers saying he'll play until he's 50, but history has proven countless times that it's extremely unlikely. Even Michael Jordan couldn't play forever. My money would be on Brees but I don't think he'll pass Peyton in TD's either.


I just went to a "meet and greet" session up here in Maine with Danny Amendola last week and he entertained questions from the crowd and one of the questions was "how much longer will Brady play?"-----and he said with a straight face: "Seven more years"

I KNOW---crazy, but if anyone can do it, I say it's Brady....

I' m a diehard Pats homer, but no way he plays to 50.......Maybe 45!!!!!!:p:p

[RogerGodahell]

I just went to a "meet and greet" session up here in Maine with Danny Amendola last week and he entertained questions from the crowd and one of the questions was "how much longer will Brady play?"-----and he said with a straight face: "Seven more years"

I KNOW---crazy, but if anyone can do it, I say it's Brady....

I' m a diehard Pats homer, but no way he plays to 50.......Maybe 45!!!!!!:p:p

I don't see why he cant play until he's 45. He shows no signs of aging on the field. He's a freak with the way he eats and takes care of his body i think that alone will give him a few extra years. Yes eventually father time catches up with everyone but if your 45 and have the body of a 40 year old that certainly helps.

[blackbears86]

I don't see why he cant play until he's 45. He shows no signs of aging on the field. He's a freak with the way he eats and takes care of his body i think that alone will give him a few extra years. Yes eventually father time catches up with everyone but if your 45 and have the body of a 40 year old that certainly helps.

The key is obviously arm strength.....I am a little worried about his deep ball touch.

receivers have a lot to do with that too.

[SirTommyWinAlot]

I wished Brady just kept his mouth shut on his quest to play well into his 40's and his ultra strict diet and conditioning methods. Now everybody else is going to fall suit including Brees and Brady is going to have a tough go being at the top of the all time statistical records.

Rodgers even came out saying Brady inspired him to take his nutrition and diet to another level. All these guys are competing with each other for career stats.

[RogerGodahell]

I thought i remember reading somewhere Rodgers doesn't really want to play that long.

[matt060488]

I wished Brady just kept his mouth shut on his quest to play well into his 40's and his ultra strict diet and conditioning methods. Now everybody else is going to fall suit including Brees and Brady is going to have a tough go being at the top of the all time statistical records.

Rodgers even came out saying Brady inspired him to take his nutrition and diet to another level. All these guys are competing with each other for career stats.

Actually Brees had said he could play until 45 before Brady...so technically Brady is following suit. The way QBs are protected I could see these guys doing that.

[xDomePatrolx]

i could see brady passing in yardage, but thats all. neither one for brees.
seems like he has been on the slow decline, i kind of expect him to have a peyton like fall off over night this season or the next .

i dont see brady passing him in td's though.
but yardage yes

Can you please show me where you are getting this info?


Please check stats and show me the decline if you would be so kind. Brees had one of his best seasons last year while missing one game and playing injured.

I'm sure he is just repeating what he heard on espn

[bruce76]

As long as both of them avoid concussions, I don't see why either one of them couldn't play into their twilight years. I always remember Kurt Warner, I truly believe he could still be playing. Physically, he was still capable. But, the concussions forced him into retirement.

[rats60]

NFL Career Passing Yards Leaders

1. Peyton Manning 71940
2. Brett Favre 71838
3. Dan Marino 61361
4. Drew Brees 60903
5. Tom Brady 58028

NFL Career Passing TD Leaders

1. Peyton Manning 530
2. Brett Favre 508
3. Tom Brady 428
4. Drew Brees 428


Does Brees or Brady pass Manning and become the all time leader in passing yards before their careers are done? Do they both? or just one?

Does Brees or Brady become the all time leader in passing TD's by the time their careers are over?

If they each get in another 3 years, it will be interesting….

You forgot
1st team all pro
Manning 7
Brees 3
Brady 2

That is Peyton's most impressive record, being the best quarterback in the NFL 7 years. It is much easier to compile stats than it is being the best for such a long time.

[RogerGodahell]

I will say this and im not trying to knock Brees or Manning because they're both great, but those guys did have the luxury of playing most of their careers in a dome in ideal weather conditions. While Favre and Brady played in much tougher weather, Aaron Rodgers as well.

[RedSoxFan28]

Actually Brees had said he could play until 45 before Brady...so technically Brady is following suit. The way QBs are protected I could see these guys doing that.
Brady said in 2007 to Moss he had 20(Until 50 YO) more in him.

[devo]

Brady said in 2007 to Moss he had 20(Until 50 YO) more in him.

As if this was supposed to be serious? :confused:

[blackbears86]

As if this was supposed to be serious? :confused:


Who knows what was said and if he was serious or not.


All I know is if Brady can play at a high level for the next 4 or 5 years I will be ecstatic because that means the Pats will have a strong chance at the super bowl.

[whodatbeastly16]

Brees missed a game last year and still led the league in passing yards so yea I'd say he's not on the decline

[Meloman315]

These Brady fans are craxy... They aren't going to catch him. Look at Brady's numbers and the eye test over the last year. He's aging and isin't what he use to be. Not to mention his only real WR is Gronk. It's not like it's '07 Moss. Peyton had a monster 2014 then halfway through '15 just kinda lost it. Same thing happened to Marino. Even if he doesn't have a sudden fall off, he still would have to put up monster numbers over 3-4 years to do it. Not happening.

[Meloman315]

You forgot
1st team all pro
Manning 7
Brees 3
Brady 2

That is Peyton's most impressive record, being the best quarterback in the NFL 7 years. It is much easier to compile stats than it is being the best for such a long time.

And MVP's is incredible. Especially when those others listed were his competition.

[Bassplayah101]

These Brady fans are craxy... They aren't going to catch him. Look at Brady's numbers and the eye test over the last year. He's aging and isin't what he use to be. Not to mention his only real WR is Gronk. It's not like it's '07 Moss. Peyton had a monster 2014 then halfway through '15 just kinda lost it. Same thing happened to Marino. Even if he doesn't have a sudden fall off, he still would have to put up monster numbers over 3-4 years to do it. Not happening.


lmao, yeah, because Edelman and Amendola are slouches and contribute nothing, right? They dont have to be deep threats to be the some of the best WR's in the league, ya know... a TD is a TD, doesnt matter if it came as a result of 10 short yardage plays or one deep ball.
How many times have the Pats embarrassed your teams secondary, I wonder.

[RedSoxFan28]

These Brady fans are craxy... They aren't going to catch him. Look at Brady's numbers and the eye test over the last year. He's aging and isin't what he use to be. Not to mention his only real WR is Gronk. It's not like it's '07 Moss. Peyton had a monster 2014 then halfway through '15 just kinda lost it. Same thing happened to Marino. Even if he doesn't have a sudden fall off, he still would have to put up monster numbers over 3-4 years to do it. Not happening.

2013 60.5 COMP%, 4,343 Yards(Y/A 6.92), 25 TD, 11 INT
2014 64.1 COMP%, 4,109 Yards(Y/A 7.06), 33 TD, 9 INT
2015 64.4 COMP%, 4,770 Yards(Y/A 7.64), 36 TD, 7 INT

Reverse aging :)!

Yes he had some bad statistical games last year in the second half, but when you lose your #1 WR, your #2/#3 WR can't catch the ball or run a route, OL full of injuries you aren't going to put up your best numbers.

[jasonm2121]

You forgot
1st team all pro
Manning 7
Brees 3
Brady 2

That is Peyton's most impressive record, being the best quarterback in the NFL 7 years. It is much easier to compile stats than it is being the best for such a long time.

It is impressive no doubt, and obviously he is amazing and a top 5 all time. I do feel however that like most things, All Pro is stat driven. Not taking anything away from him but I still take Brady overall, but not trying to start that conversation so please do not take it the wrong way. More often than not Peyton wins the seasonal statistical war.

[blackbears86]

Meloman315;11124287]These Brady fans are craxy... They aren't going to catch him. Look at Brady's numbers and the eye test over the last year. He's aging and isin't what he use to be.[/B] Not to mention his only real WR is Gronk. It's not like it's '07 Moss. Peyton had a monster 2014 then halfway through '15 just kinda lost it. Same thing happened to Marino. Even if he doesn't have a sudden fall off, he still would have to put up monster numbers over 3-4 years to do it. Not happening.

I'm one of those crazy Brady fans and I agree with you......He had a great year last year statistically, but it's seems he's had trouble with the deep ball---could it be because he really hasn't had a deep threat since Moss left?

I also think the Patriots are playing to his strengths...(High accuracy <20 yards downfield) Thus the pickup of yet another possession receiver in Hogan from Buffalo.

And yes, father time will catch up with him. I just hope it's not for another 4+ years. :D:D:D

[SaveMeTheGum]

Both will pass Manning in Yards. Brady will pass Manning in TD's, Brees possibly if the Saints make it a priority to keep talent around him.



You forgot
1st team all pro
Manning 7
Brees 3
Brady 2

That is Peyton's most impressive record, being the best quarterback in the NFL 7 years. It is much easier to compile stats than it is being the best for such a long time.

That's a nice little regular season stat.

[SaveMeTheGum]

These Brady fans are craxy... They aren't going to catch him. Look at Brady's numbers and the eye test over the last year. He's aging and isin't what he use to be. Not to mention his only real WR is Gronk. It's not like it's '07 Moss. Peyton had a monster 2014 then halfway through '15 just kinda lost it. Same thing happened to Marino. Even if he doesn't have a sudden fall off, he still would have to put up monster numbers over 3-4 years to do it. Not happening.

Brady is much healthier than Manning was, and he also won't have the go-off-of-PEDs dropoff.

[blackbears86]

Brady is much healthier than Manning was, and he also won't have the go-off-of-PEDs dropoff.

Good point....:)!

[IronMonkey415]

1 Home run for Brees, saw it happen last night.

[jasonm2121]

Brady is much healthier than Manning was, and he also won't have the go-off-of-PEDs dropoff.

hahahahaha, whatever happened with that anyway?

[Bassplayah101]

hahahahaha, whatever happened with that anyway?

The official word as I heard it was that he is now retired, and no longer a NFL employee, and therefore, they have closed any investigation against him.

Convenient, eh?

[jasonm2121]

The official word as I heard it was that he is now retired, and no longer a NFL employee, and therefore, they have closed any investigation against him.

Convenient, eh?

ah, that sounds good, I guess I will start watching week 5, in the meantime I will continue to stack PSA 10s of Tommy

[Drdduet]

My prediction is that after Brees and Brady retire, Brees will hold the yardage and TD records with Brady second in both categories.

Sure Manning had more MVP's and All-pro selections, but he got a few of those awards despite having inferior stats to Brees (2008 & 2009 in particular).

[jasonm2121]

My prediction is that after Brees and Brady retire, Brees will hold the yardage and TD records with Brady second in both categories.

Sure Manning had more MVP's and All-pro selections, but he got a few of those awards despite having inferior stats to Brees (2008 & 2009 in particular).

def 3 amazing players, if Luck stays healthy I am sure he will put up some monster numbers as well

[jstasyk1121]

i think at some point Matt Stafford will hold the record for yards...who he passes?? my guess is Brees

[jasonm2121]

Was at Murphy's Bleachers during a Cubs game last month and Matt was there, hanging out a few feet away, was nice to see everyone let him enjoy himself.

[RogerGodahell]

It's gonna be pretty much whoever plays the longest

[usafshelland]

Just my guesstimates...I have 5 current QBs that will all have higher passing yardage totals that Tom Brady by the year 2028.

I'll go in closest to Brady to surpassing Brady...
Ben Roethlisberger...only 34 and still putting up 4k a season (I actually believe he has a chance to get 4 or 5 rings by the time he's done)
Philip Rivers...won't ever get a ring, but still throws a ton of yards a season.
Matt Ryan...I think he may eventually get 1 ring, but that's it. Passes Brady by 3k yards.
Drew Brees...no more rings, but throws an excessive amount. I think he'll even pass Peyton.
Matthew Stafford...he throws a TON, but doesn't seem to get injured. I doubt he EVER wins a ring, but I have him destroying the record with 79k-80k passing yards.

[usafshelland]

By the way, if you have a Contenders Rookie Auto of any of these guys...I'm shopping.