2016-2017 Chicago Bulls Thread

[Patriot12]

After a dreadful past 13+ seasons:eek:

It is going to be Exciting to watch this season:)!:special:

[Italy61587]

After a dreadful past 13+ seasons:eek:

It is going to be Exciting to watch this season:)!:special:

I wouldn’t call the last 13+ seasons dreadful. Bulls were pretty close to a championship the last few years.

[Patriot12]

I wouldn’t call the last 13+ seasons dreadful. Bulls were pretty close to a championship the last few years.

Majorly dreadful! especially listening to that donkey rose all the time:doh:

[thenwhatjk]

Well this is off to a great start

[rats60]

I wouldn’t call the last 13+ seasons dreadful. Bulls were pretty close to a championship the last few years.

When? They have won 2 playoff series the last 5 years and missed the playoffs last year. They had one good season 6 years ago, outside of that they have won 3 playoff series since Jordan left 18 years ago. I would call that dreadful. Hopefully the Bulls have turned the corner.

[Italy61587]

Majorly dreadful! especially listening to that donkey rose all the time:doh:

So his MVP season was also dreadful to watch?
Or Rose’s rc year with that epic series against Boston with the triple over-time game. This was dreadful?

Even before Rose’s time, the Deng, Ben Gordon, Hinrich, young Bulls teams weren’t dreadful to watch. Gordon sixth man of the year his rc year. How about who they swept the heat in 06-07. It wasn’t the most amazing basketball either but it was fun to watch that young team develop.

[hoopster3977]

When? They have won 2 playoff series the last 5 years and missed the playoffs last year. They had one good season 6 years ago, outside of that they have won 3 playoff series since Jordan left 18 years ago. I would call that dreadful. Hopefully the Bulls have turned the corner.

If you think everything you posted was bad, just wait, it isn't going to get any better. Lotto team for the foreseeable future.

[valleyofsun]

If you think everything you posted was bad, just wait, it isn't going to get any better. Lotto team for the foreseeable future.

In other news the Milwaukee Bucks are going to have a record of 75-7 this season and will compete for the NBA championship. :doh:

[yiguiri2002]

I wouldn’t call the last 13+ seasons dreadful. Bulls were pretty close to a championship the last few years.

People got spoiled (in a good way) with the Jordan era. Of course everything that came after that looked dreadful!

I enjoyed the Thibs era. People still don't realize that the Bulls were a Top 3 team in the league (at the very least) before Rose went down. And I get the feeling things are going to be even worst now.

[Ronaldo773]

People got spoiled (in a good way) with the Jordan era. Of course everything that came after that looked dreadful!

I enjoyed the Thibs era. People still don't realize that the Bulls were a Top 3 team in the league (at the very least) before Rose went down. And I get the feeling things are going to be even worst now.

They were doing well in the Thibs era. The front office really has me scratching my head with how they thought Dwayne Wade was a good pick up. They have assembled a team good enough to survive maybe the first round of the playoffs.

There was a while even with Rose out they were playing such great defense his presence wasn't missed that much. Want back Ronnie Brewer, Nate Robinson, Noah, Asik, rather have them than Wade.

Like the Rondo pick-up personally. Him and Butler are the only hope of the franchise in the future I feel. Noah was the soul of the team for the last few years.

[Mongol]

Wade signing puts rebuild on hold for 2 seasons.
If Bulls really wanted to rebuild, Jimmy should of got traded for Dunn and Lavine.
This team is good enough to make the playoffs and sell tickets.
I think it's time to get rid of snell and Taj.

[Cervantes]

Glad to see this thread started off so smoothly...

The Wade signing was to put butts in the seats, sell merchandise, and give the illusion that we're doing everything we can to compete now. "We're not rebuilding, we're retooling'', said Forman.

Par for the course from that bozo.

Wade will help to win a few more games, and he might help some with recruiting. I believe Chicago will have just enough for 1 max contract next season. I doubt they get a top-tier player, but they'll either overpay for a mid-level semi-star, or they'll use the money on 2-3 players.

Snell doesn't really have much value, although if you look at his numbers, he was a positive when he was on the floor. No, I'm not sh#tting you. I read that somewhere; I'll see if I can find that load of poop.

Taj should have been traded 2 years ago, if they really wanted value. They're hoping for a first, but they'll be lucky to get a late, late first. I think you hold on to him until at least the trading deadline, and maybe until the offseason, just because he's the only experienced PF we have on the roster. He can provide leadership, work ethic, and professionalism.

I don't see McDermott making this jump his fans have been saying is coming...he's worked at becoming a better defender, and supposedly has been trying to get stronger this offseason, but I don't see him as anything more than a backup SF on a decent team. A really bad team, he could start, but defensively, he's still a liability.

Mirotic has his moments, but he's so up and down. He is getting a better understanding of the game, and the game seems to be slowing down, too. He could have a good year.

I'm excited to see Bobby this season. I really think he's going to have a breakout year, and with him growing into his body, getting a better feel for the game through more playing time, he's prime for a bigger role.

Feliciano should be able to learn and develop behind Lopez this season, as I've read that some in the organization believe he could be the C of the future for the team. He's skilled, long, athletic, and has a big motor. It should be interesting...

Jimmy is just going to be Jimmy this season. I really think that Wade is the best thing that could happen to him personally. The leadership and experience that Wade brings to the team could do wonders for Jimmy, as I think he tried to be the leader because he said so last season, instead of just letting that role come to him. You live and you learn, and I can't wait to see Jimmy play this season.

Valentine's shot has been a struggle so far, but the rest of his game has been pretty good. He's going to get an opportunity this season, so I think he'll play the 2-4, and we'll see him getting 15 mpg or so, and he should fit in pretty well, as a role player who could have some breakout games, as well.

Rondo has been impressive with his words/actions so far. I've been pleasantly surprised, as he's given great interviews, been at summer league, worked out with the team the entire summer league, and just seems to have a positive outlook on his situation. I will hold off on my thought on how/if he fits on this team, but I am hoping for the best.

Grant, Lopez, whoever else I missed...we'll see. I don't see either as long-term fits, especially Lopez, but his presence in the pick and roll, his play around the basket, etc. should help stabilize things until (if) Felicio/Portis are ready.

Hoiberg...the jury is still out on him. I'm not sold at all. I didn't like the schemes he ran, the lack of defensive adjustments/awareness, or his lack of leadership in the locker room. I know Jimmy got a lot of flack, but if your star player is calling out your toughness on players, and saying you need to hold players accountable, I think that's a bad look for the coach. I think Jimmy should have kept it in house, but the fact that it was an issue is an even BIGGER issue, imo.

So, all in all, like always, I'm looking forward to the season. We should have some ups and downs, growing pains, and wtf moments. I don't think that Wade/Butler will have ANY friction/issues this season, and I think they'll mesh well together.

GO BULLS.

PS - Fire GarPax.

[Patriot12]

So his MVP season was also dreadful to watch?
Or Rose’s rc year with that epic series against Boston with the triple over-time game. This was dreadful?

Even before Rose’s time, the Deng, Ben Gordon, Hinrich, young Bulls teams weren’t dreadful to watch. Gordon sixth man of the year his rc year. How about who they swept the heat in 06-07. It wasn’t the most amazing basketball either but it was fun to watch that young team develop.

day in and day out listening to and about that idiot was seriously dreadful, Yes!!
they were never going anywhere with that idiot on the team.
NY will soon find this out the hard way. oh my toe nail is cracked, oh I sharted, oh my nose is itching, oh oh oh
Please give me my pain killers Dr. Nick

[Patriot12]

People got spoiled (in a good way) with the Jordan era. Of course everything that came after that looked dreadful!

I enjoyed the Thibs era. People still don't realize that the Bulls were a Top 3 team in the league (at the very least) before Rose went down. And I get the feeling things are going to be even worst now.

spoiled or not it has nothing to do with what people are over looking.:confused:
There's a Race to that 4th ring that's about to start here soon.:)!

No matter what way you look at it, it is going to be a fun year to watch.:flex:

[Cervantes]

spoiled or not it has nothing to do with what people are over looking.:confused:
There's a Race to that 4th ring that's about to start here soon.:)!

No matter what way you look at it, it is going to be a fun year to watch.:flex:

What 4th ring?

:confused:

[Ronaldo773]

Wade signing puts rebuild on hold for 2 seasons.
If Bulls really wanted to rebuild, Jimmy should of got traded for Dunn and Lavine.
This team is good enough to make the playoffs and sell tickets.
I think it's time to get rid of snell and Taj.

Exactly, the Wade deal was horrible. Tying up cap space on an old player with little upside just to sell tickets.

Don't agree with trading Jimmy. Or Taj. But Wade was a horrible choice. He would have been nice couple years ago when they were on the brink of championship but now no way.

[Patriot12]

Exactly, the Wade deal was horrible. Tying up cap space on an old player with little upside just to sell tickets.

Don't agree with trading Jimmy. Or Taj. But Wade was a horrible choice. He would have been nice couple years ago when they were on the brink of championship but now no way.


Wade is 2 years older than witzle

[yiguiri2002]

Exactly, the Wade deal was horrible. Tying up cap space on an old player with little upside just to sell tickets.

Don't agree with trading Jimmy. Or Taj. But Wade was a horrible choice. He would have been nice couple years ago when they were on the brink of championship but now no way.

Agreed. Along with Rondo, this is the least joy I'm gonna have watching a Bulls team. Just awful.

[JackThree]

I can't wait for 2017/18.... Butler, Love, Paul & Redick to go along with Lopez, Portis, Valentine, Grant, McDermott & Felicio.

[Hoopsman]

Wasted year coming up

Hopefully, Niko/McDermott can improve and Portis gains more experience

[CoolG]

44-38 coming up this year

[Cervantes]

Chicago takes Jimmy Butler off the trade market, according to reports by ESPN's Zach Lowe. I think it was stupid to have him on it in the first place. You build around a player of his caliber, with his age, and with that great contract.

In other news, the Bulls sign G Isaiah Canaan to a 2-year, 2.2 million dollar deal, with a second year team option, because why not?

[Cervantes]

Chicago signs their 2nd round pick, #48 overall, Paul Zipser to a multi-year deal.

Zipser is a 6' 8'' 220lb SF/PF from Germany.

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Draft Express had him going at the 34th spot, and he really impressed at various camps the past couple of years, even as recently as in early June, at the Adidas Eurocamp. Here is DX's take on Zipser from the camp:

2016 adidas Eurocamp Rosters and Official DX Preview
June 8, 2016


Paul Zipser is one of the more interesting players slated to attend this year's camp regardless of age. A 6'8 combo forward with outstanding role-player potential and two years of experience against top competition under his belt, Zipser was unable to attend workouts with any NBA team after he declared for the draft last year, as Bayern played all the way until June 21st in the BBL playoffs. Missing a considerable amount of action as injuries plagued the early part of his career, the EuroCamp presents a tremendous opportunity for Zipser to make a splash in front of NBA decision-makers he hadn't gotten the chance to in the past at the FIBA youth level.

Zipser's skill-level as a ball-handler, shooter and passer will be scrutinized closely, as few question his physical tools or his ability to defend multiple positions. He shot an outstanding 42% for 3 this year, and 55% for 2, but some question marks remain about his ability to create his own shot, make off the dribble jumpers, and make good decisions playing the small forward position full time (as opposed to the stretch-4 spot he mostly occupied this year). If he's able to show he has more potential in this area than he was able to demonstrate on a stacked Euroleague team (where he averaged just 18 minutes per game with a low-usage role), Zipser might creep back into first round discussions.

2016 adidas Eurocamp: Day Two
June 11, 2016

NBA scouts and executives want to see prospects who are projected to be drafted separate themselves from their peers in settings such as the EuroCamp. This is exactly what Paul Zipser did the moment he stepped on the floor in Treviso. That started at 9am in the morning drills, when only the most industrious scouts were in attendance to watch the players go through their paces. And it continued all morning long on the two different courts he was asked to play on.

Zipser is one of the most experienced players in this group, having seen significant minutes in the Euroleague, EuroCup, German BBL and with his national team last summer alongside Dirk Nowitzki. That was immediately evident with the confidence, poise and aggressiveness he showed in the five on five games he participated in.

Zipser attacked the paint relentlessly off the dribble both off closeouts and isolation situations, showing an excellent first step and the ability to finish explosively above the rim. On the perimeter, he knocked down numerous open 3-point shots, mainly of the catch and shoot variety, but also showed the ability to hit a pull-up jumper in the mid-range area, which isn't normally a major strength of his game. Defensively, he guarded multiple positions in his no-nonense fashion, mostly operating at the power forward position, using his strong frame, but showing nice versatility switching onto players big and small all over the floor.

Zipser made a strong case for himself to be considered the best prospect at this camp, and is at the very least the most "ready" to play the role he would be asked to in the NBA, as a 3'n'D combo forward. He looked excellent from a physical perspective, with good size, long arms, big hands and a strong body, which should allow him to play the power forward position without any real issues. His stroke is reliable when given time and space, and he is a versatile defender who is attentive and fundamentally sound.

Young prospects on the deepest and most ambitious clubs in Europe can get "out of sight, out of mind" quickly sometimes in the NBA Draft process, as scouts aren't always able to see exactly what they can offer in limited minutes.

For that reason, Zipser couldn't have done much more to help himself in Treviso, in a five on five setting no less, which is why the Camp Directors quickly elected to cancel the afternoon one on zero workout he had scheduled. He should be a very popular candidate to get workouts in the late first and early second round portion of the draft, and should certainly get strong consideration in that range if he's able to deliver there in similar fashion to what he did in Treviso. After a strong showing in Italy, Zipser now moves on to the US, where he has a number of private workouts already lined up.

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[csrockerzero]

I am not excited about this season. I'll be pleasantly surprised if they finish in the top 4 of the East. I will be unhappy until Rondo is off the team.

[Harper]

I like the additions. I think this team will be better than people think. They may not have added shooters but they added winners. I think building through thee draft is nearly impossible now so the impact signing big name guys to the team is more important than drafting the next Zach lavine or jail okafur to develop for 4 years to then walk as a free agent