DA Card World Buys Topps 60th Packs for $50 and Re-Sells for $60

[88horsepower]

dacardworld bought the remaining packs from Topps and has them for sale on their website.

And jacked them up 10 bucks..... everyone is greedy AF nowadays, makes me sick.

Well, we know how Mr. Roberson is voting. What say all of you? Was it greedy/unethical for DA Card World to buy some of the Topps 60th Anniversary Packs at $50 and re-sell them for $60 on their web site?

[ssbledsoe]

I see I'm the first vote. What say you comrade?

[burke23]

Are they bored? Seems like a low margin game. I don't have an issue if they used channels we all have access to in order to do this, but seems odd. Handling, etc - they can't make more than a few bucks per pack IF they even sell.

[jlzinck]

Who hurt you?

[88horsepower]

Personally, I think it's perfectly fine.

[mfisher27]

You're assuming they purchased them for $50 a piece. I highly doubt they paid that much for them.

Are they bored? Seems like a low margin game. I don't have an issue if they used channels we all have access to in order to do this, but seems odd. Handling, etc - they can't make more than a few bucks per pack IF they even sell.

[88horsepower]

Who hurt you?

I hurt myself today, to see if I still feel.

[FBallHobbies]

Why is this any different from resellers buying lots and flipping them?

Would there have been outrage if Blowout had bought the remaining picks and increased the price?

I think it is fine with me. I have yet to buy any of them. Almost did til I saw 10 for 10 on Joe Namaths.

[RAV2773]

Nothing wrong with trying to make a profit on our investments. We've all done it in the past and will continue doing it.

[ChicoCheese]

Sounds like a $15 savings off of the base price. Also, we're talking about a 16.5%-ish mark up assuming there wasn't a bulk discount. Standard retail market up is 30%. They aren't retiring off this deal.

[whodatbeastly16]

Capitalism

[glen87]

whoever is complaining about the reselling of these for $60

A - topps could no longer sell these, did you want them to just destroy them

B - would it make you happier if BO bought them and sold them for $60

C - why did you not buy them out when they were $50

[Grid]

Wait a minute here. You mean a business that buys and resells sports cards (and other things) just bought some sports cards to sell? Crazy!

How is this even a topic? DA bought product from Topps, like they have done millions of times, to resell on their website. Where is the story?

Now if Leaf bought all of these packs from topps, and put out a "product" called Leaf best of Topps, and added a pair of unlicensed base cards to the package and resold them for $199 I'd say thats shaddy!

But how can anyone argue otherwise in this situation? Topps sold boxes of Chrome on their own website at one time. Should DA have never bought Topps Chrome from them to resell on their own website? I just dont get the argument...

[88horsepower]

Wait a minute here. You mean a business that buys and resells sports cards (and other things) just bought some sports cards to sell? Crazy!

How is this even a topic? DA bought product from Topps, like they have done millions of times, to resell on their website. Where is the story?

Now if Leaf bought all of these packs from topps, and put out a "product" called Leaf best of Topps, and added a pair of unlicensed base cards to the package and resold them for $199 I'd say thats shaddy!

But how can anyone argue otherwise in this situation? Topps sold boxes of Chrome on their own website at one time. Should DA have never bought Topps Chrome from them to resell on their own website? I just dont get the argument...

I know. They're such a greedy bunch, Dave and Adam.

Here's how this got started:
http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/football/1021634-topps-60th-anniversary-rookie-reprint-autographs.html

[Grid]

whoever is complaining about the reselling of these for $60

A - topps could no longer sell these, did you want them to just destroy them

B - would it make you happier if BO bought them and sold them for $60

C - why did you not buy them out when they were $50

All good points!

And if they bought them for $50 they should only resell them for $50! So what if they tied up their money in stock. So what if they prepaid for inventory and they HOPE to recover their expenses.

No one should be allowed to profit as a retailer!

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[matt roberson]

I'll just copy and paste this from the other thread to save myself the time.....


How about you stop putting words into my mouth?

"And jacked them up 10 bucks..... everyone is greedy AF nowadays, makes me sick."

Can you read?

I never said "they" were greedy or tried to demonize them.

I made an observation on the state of society/consumerism as an industry..... understand that yet?




I don't have a problem with it specifically, especially if there was Licensing issues and rules they had to follow.....

Am I concerned/offput with the greed of society in general- YES.

[paragon11]

I don't see anything wrong with this at all. They are a business trying to make money, like all businesses do.

[glen87]

I'll just copy and paste this from the other thread to save myself the time.....


How about you stop putting words into my mouth?

"And jacked them up 10 bucks..... everyone is greedy AF nowadays, makes me sick."

Can you read?

I never said "they" were greedy or tried to demonize them.

I made an observation on the state of society/consumerism as an industry..... understand that yet?




I don't have a problem with it specifically, especially if there was Licensing issues and rules they had to follow.....

Am I concerned/offput with the greed of society in general- YES.

IF you say "EVERYONE" is greedy - which you did say, then "they" would be included since EVERYONE is greedy

so i guess you just did not mean EVERYONE is greedy

[sideshowbob]

What does ethics have to do with capitalism?

[hugh]

no problem at all, it's the same as buying singles and selling for a higher price

[matt roberson]

IF you say "EVERYONE" is greedy - which you did say, then "they" would be included since EVERYONE is greedy

so i guess you just did not mean EVERYONE is greedy

I mean I am not singling "them" out as any more greedy than "everybody" else, but yes we are all greedy, even the most selfless people have their moments..... and it makes me ill.

But greed seems to be very prominent in this HOBBY.... maybe that's why it's dying?

[Cavaliercards]

I don't see a problem with it at all and doubt they purchased them at $50, with their relationship with Topps I would assume it was at the $35 level.

[matt roberson]

What does ethics have to do with capitalism?

a lot......... they are not mutually exclusive.

[Grid]

I mean I am not singling "them" out as any more greedy than "everybody" else, but yes we are all greedy, even the most selfless people have their moments..... and it makes me ill.

But greed seems to be very prominent in this HOBBY.... maybe that's why it's dying?

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There is nothing wrong with a business profiting from a legitimate purchase. That is what business do.

We are not talking about DA telling Topps these packs are worth $4 but they will give them $5 each and they went ahead and resold them for $59.95. Topps knows what the packs sell for, they were selling them already. And Topps knows that they can dump them all on one legit buyer instead of stocking them and mailing them off piecemeal.

The packs made it back into the hobby in a completely legitimate manner and collectors now have a new outlet to purchase them.

This deal obviously made sense for both parties so whats the issue?

While your comments, in general, hold merit. They are completely irrelevant in this regard.

[Soxrule111]

I don't see a problem with it at all and doubt they purchased them at $50, with their relationship with Topps I would assume it was at the $35 level.

Abosluteley. People didn't complain when Companies Bought Topps Mini and resold it. They don't Slander Companies for raising prices when a product gets hot (2015 Bowman Baseball) To me sounds like someone is just butt-hurt.

[jmscoggin]

a lot......... they are not mutually exclusive.

It must make you conflicted to be a member here no? Seeing as how this site is built and funded by BO buying wax, marking it up and taking advantage of the poor and unfortunate collectors by selling it to them at a profit. :rolleyes:

[Grid]

matt roberson is 1. I want to know who the other 15 people are that voted this transaction is "Greedy AF" so I can make sure their ID's get blocked on eBay.

I don't want to accidentally sell a card for a profit and be labeled greedy.

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[Bassplayah101]

Anyone that has a problem with this should be barred from BST, because you've all had that card that you were into for 50 bucks, and wouldn't take less than 57 for it. Its all about trying to turn an investment into a profit and is completely legal and ethical on all levels.
Card trading in general has, in some ways turned into a stock market, only somewhat slower (in most cases) and is also a profit generating business/enterprise.

All that said, I expect ethics to play a part in this, so if those packs were shot up to 70.00, I might raise holy hell, but I feel that a 10.00 increase is worthy of the time and effort gone into not only the acquisition, but the reselling, and the book keeping because some of that "profit" goes right into Uncle Sam's pocket. Theyre a business, afterall, and have all the same bills you and I have (if youre a youngster, and just read this, shaddap. Life hasn't even begun to *&^%$ you yet.) :)

[freethrowtommy]

Why is this wrong?

Still a good price at $60, IMO. Better value than 95% of boxes out there.

[chipmaster]

1. I want to know who the other 15 people are that voted this transaction is "Greedy AF" so I can make sure their ID's get blocked on eBay



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I love Mrs. I ain't got time for that!!!!

[slaughterica]

This is a silly post. We can make an argument if they listed the packs for $100 or above MSRP. But they did us a solid and listed it at $60.

Also, I guarantee you they got it for less than $50 if they bought in bulk.

STILL no problem with it.

[IpcSteveYoung]

Why is this wrong?

Still a good price at $60, IMO. Better value than 95% of boxes out there.

This.
I'd be buying packs if I wasn't tied up in my PC

[Nyfancam01]

it's smart.

that's a damn profit.

[NickM]

Greed drives innovation and progress.
"I want" is why people work, create, and take risks.

[BostonNut]

I had to triple check to make sure this wasn't an Imac thread.

Then I remembered he was banned.

Then I checked again to see if it was an Imac thread because I didn't trust myself...

[DaveTaplin]

I think this is pretty normal. Both BO and DA are selling 2016 Finest BB which is only available on Topps.com. A few companies out there reselling the Topps Now cards. Not sure why this is a thread.

[codered]

I like turtles......




















And I see nothing wrong with it :-)

[The Accountant]

Maybe they contacted topps and got them cheaper than $50

[jmscoggin]

Maybe they contacted topps and got them cheaper than $50

This is an almost guarantee.

[twenty4seven]

My 11 year old nephew fishes golf balls out of the water hazards on golf courses near his home and sells them for .25-2.50 apiece to a local golf shop.

He also buys Gatorade for 88 cents and resells them at his school for $1.50.

I'm not worried about him at all.

[slaughterica]

My 11 year old nephew fishes golf balls out of the water hazards on golf courses near his home and sells them for .25-2.50 apiece to a local golf shop.

He also buys Gatorade for 88 cents and resells them at his school for $1.50.

I'm not worried about him at all.

Entrepreneurship is in his blood!

[jmscoggin]

My 11 year old nephew fishes golf balls out of the water hazards on golf courses near his home and sells them for .25-2.50 apiece to a local golf shop.

He also buys Gatorade for 88 cents and resells them at his school for $1.50.

I'm not worried about him at all.

He's a greedy bastard and has no soul. :coffee:

[mfw13]

I've got no problem with it.

However, I'm trying to figure out why DA thinks people will pay $60 for something that wasn't selling at $50.

Seems stupid more than anything else....

[Scottish Punk]

I've got no problem with it.

However, I'm trying to figure out why DA thinks people will pay $60 for something that wasn't selling at $50.

Seems stupid more than anything else....

more eyes may be seeing it now. I bought some at $75 and $50, so I have no problem getting more at $60.

[byronscott4ever]

Anyone here could have done the same thing right?

[NickM]

DA has the luxury of time to sell these that Topps did not.
They also have a storefront for selling.

[glen87]

Anyone here could have done the same thing right?

exactly - any of those 26 people who say it is greedy could have bought them for $50. or approached topps for a quantity discount. it was not like the date for topps' nfl license expiring snuck up on anyone. what did everyone think would happen with these once that license expired?

[cruiserdaddy7]

Typical agenda of the entitled consumer to complain about something like this. If you didn't want someone or a company to buy them all, should have done so yourself. Cash is king. ANYONE and EVERYONE had the chance/opportunity to buy these. As with most things, Topps eventually closes them out and sells them to large dealers. They did the same with 2014 Topps Mini baseball boxes. Blew those out.

[Skootown]

So basically they're buying a product wholesale at a low price and then selling smaller portions to the public at a higher cost?

How dare they operate like every other business in the known universe!

[88horsepower]

It really bothered me to hear someone say that they were so upset by what they did. There's absolutely nothing unethical or illegal about what they did. They are a business trying to earn a profit. And what they did was completely legal and ethical in my humble judgment.

There's nothing wrong with trying to make a profit on something as long as you're doing so in a legal fashion and there's absolutely nothing the DA Card World did wrong in this particular case. They are business Dave and Adam are trying to make a profit just like everybody else who's trying to flip cards.

[blevins26]

This is a silly post. We can make an argument if they listed the packs for $100 or above MSRP. But they did us a solid and listed it at $60.

Also, I guarantee you they got it for less than $50 if they bought in bulk.

STILL no problem with it.


No, no you can't make an argument. No matter what they charge, the "market" has a choice whether to purchase or not.

They could have asked $1,000 per pack and it wouldn't be "wrong" per se. It would probably just be stupid because nobody would pay that.

They took the risk to buy who knows how many of these packs. For the record, I don't believe they paid $50 per. If I were going to buy 100+ or however many of these packs from Topps you can be damn sure I'd be contacting them and negotiating a bulk discount.

They made an investment, they took the risk, they can charger whatever they want for the packs.

[IronMonkey415]

Brian Benson is my contact over there, let me ask him what is going on.
My account is a PREMIER account over there.

Yea I'm cool

[IronMonkey415]

Blowoutcards is also cool.
Figured I'll include this to be on the safe side.

[bojesphob]

So, those that have an issue with this, can we safely assume that you've never bought a pack of cards for 5 bucks, gotten a great auto (let's say of Barry Sanders) and DIDN'T turn around and sell that bad boy for 195 dollar profit? If you have no issues buying packs or singles for cheap then selling what you get for a bit of profit, then you have no issues with DA doing the SAME THING. Seriously, you collect cards, which is premised on buying packs/boxes/whatever and trying to get a good card to either put in your collection (for cheaper than buying it as a single) or selling what you don't PC to recoup costs or make a little extra money.

[bigsmitt92]

4 month bump--woot woot--got get interest in them so the rice is found so I can complete the base set.

[Grid]

This old thread got bumped? DA has been "trying" to sell these for $54.95 for months. They have exactly 91 of them left. They put them on sale every single week. More so than Topps did.

They will discount them down to $52.95 is you take a 10 pack. What is there left to discuss? A Company that sells sports cards bought sports cards to sell?

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[bigsmitt92]

Wow--91 packs left--i might just buy to see if a base rice even exists

[Ronaldo773]

If you brought a Brady RC 10 years ago and sold it now for crazy profit would you be a greedy despicable capitalist?

This is silly.

[Skybox]

I imagine there is a boatload of products that they are forced to buy & lose $ on so when they get a chance to make a few quick dollars I say good for them

[majestik101]

Wow--91 packs left--i might just buy to see if a base rice even exists

A lot of Jaworski and Namaths in those 91 remaining packs. Also why did this thread get bumped again? I would have thought that the sting from the butt hurt would be gone by now. Apparently not.

[Kyle213]

I know this might come as a shock, but there are other products that DA bought from Topps that are now marked up higher than what they bought them for:doh:



....why is this even a topic?

[Prenticles]

Again, how did this come up?

[Bassplayah101]

I know this might come as a shock, but there are other products that DA bought from Topps that are now marked up higher than what they bought them for:doh:



....why is this even a topic?

How dare those commie bast#$%^s mark up the price in order to make a profit.
WTF is this world coming to?!

hehe, j/k would someone please burn this thread to the ground.
Thanks..

[ncluett]

Packs are $45 today for CyberMonday.

[IronMonkey415]

WOW, they are doing an amazing job over there.

I know it seems like I'm always stroking Dave and Adam and purposely name dropping them. THAT IS NOT THE CASE.

I ordered from BO and D&A this year so I'm little bit more excited then usual.

[Scottish Punk]

Packs are $45 today for CyberMonday.

Thanks for the heads up, put an order in for 3!!

[hester72598]

What the heck I picked up 3 packs

[Prenticles]

This thread got bumped again!