Cam Newton is .....

[armyatc22]

Since im about an hour and a half south of Auburn now you can guess that all im hearing and seeing is Auburn football. So Let's play a little game called fill in the blank....

Cam Newton is ___________

Ok here is mine:

Cam Newton is a better running back then half the the RB's in the NFL!!!

That boy has some moves on him but he reminds me a lot of J Russell...

Now it's your turn...

[yankeesfan24]

Cam Newton is Overhyped just like Denard Robinson was. in a week or two when Auburn loses, no one will care about him

[mnvikingstwins]

Cam Newton is Overhyped just like Denard Robinson was. in a week or two when Auburn loses, no one will care about him

Haven't heard much at all about Denard since about week 3

[armyatc22]

Cam Newton is Overhyped just like Denard Robinson was. in a week or two when Auburn loses, no one will care about him

I think the iron bowl is going to be very high scoring and the 1st to screw up is going to lose. Truthfully if Auburn can get past Bama (don't think they will though) I don't see them losing any games unless Cam gets hurt

[Zacky1053]

I think the iron bowl is going to be very high scoring and the 1st to screw up is going to lose. Truthfully if Auburn can get past Bama (don't think they will though) I don't see them losing any games unless Cam gets hurt

Regardless of what he does at the NFL level, Cam Newton is a stud RIGHT NOW. If the Georgia game was on the road that might be a concern, but they should be undefeated when they roll into Tuscaloosa

[Prospect_Man]

denard just had a 32 yard TD run and he had a bye last week.....anyway Can Newton is ..... A FREAK OF NATURE!!!

[BroncosFAN#1]

Auburn isnt to bad of a team actually. It will be a good game with them vs Bama. Ill watch that just being a fan of the game. Did you see Bo Jackson say he already had his Heisman vote written out for the Auburn QB I think. He said hes been waiting to be able to vote for an Auburn player for the Heisman.

[cardinalscards4]

Cam Newton SHOULD not win the Heisman.

Go LAMICHEAL JAMES!

[solt0131]

. So Let's play a little game called fill in the blank....

Cam Newton is ___________

Better than Terrelle Pryor and everyone is now realizing it.

[armyatc22]

Better than Terrelle Pryor and everyone is now realizing it.

Like I always say Ohio State and USC are the most overrated teams in college football history

WOW Im watching the USC-Oregen game right now and the Predicted BCS bowls if they stay as is after all the upsets this week has Ohio State and Bosie in the Rose Bowl!!! I would love to see them go off on OSU that would be sick and also I think a Auburn vs Ducks National Champ game will be a high flying good ass game

ohhh yeah BTW solt thanks for the Lafells on eBay ;)

[notravels10]

Cam newton is Tebow 2.0

[soonerfreak]

Like I always say Ohio State and USC are the most overrated teams in college football history

WOW Im watching the USC-Oregen game right now and the Predicted BCS bowls if they stay as is after all the upsets this week has Ohio State and Bosie in the Rose Bowl!!! I would love to see them go off on OSU that would be sick and also I think a Auburn vs Ducks National Champ game will be a high flying good ass game

ohhh yeah BTW solt thanks for the Lafells on eBay ;)

Ohio State? no, USC? Hell no, and thats coming from a hardcore OU fan. USC has 7 titles and 6 heisman winners and is 6th all time for a winstreak of 34. Even OSU has 6 heisman winners(7 trophies) and 5 titles. Neither of these teams are even close to overrated for a all time program.

Now if you are refering to the current team as overhyped ok yeah but all time no.

[Gator]

Cam Newton stole my laptop.....

[MasterPattie]

Cam Newton is...at the center of an NCAA investigation. :eek:

[ND3]

Cam Newton is lucky to have a money hungry douchebag for father.

[MasterPattie]

Cam Newton is lucky to have a money hungry douchebag for father.

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/lachen/laughing-smiley-014.gif

It reality, it's probably more sad than funny...but you made me laugh. Thank you, sir... :)!

[danimal]

Cam Newton is asking his dad if it was worth it.

[nineout]

Cam Newton is...just another Tebow..may get u a heisman but most NFL teams could care less about the wildcat QB. He should've went to a school that would have made him a real QB.

army I bet you thought last year the Ducks would beat OSU in the Rose Bowl too..all that happened in that game was everyone finally realized how overrated the Ducks really were.As for this years OSU team they have been a little overhyped but no more than Newton.At least Pryor is learning how to be a real QB. Most QB's that play the wildcat can't say that and it always shows in the NFL.

[danimal]

Cam Newton is...just another Tebow..may get u a heisman but most NFL teams could care less about the wildcat QB. He should've went to a school that would have made him a real QB.

army I bet you thought last year the Ducks would beat OSU in the Rose Bowl too..all that happened in that game was everyone finally realized how overrated the Ducks really were.As for this years OSU team they have been a little overhyped but no more than Newton.At least Pryor is learning how to be a real QB. Most QB's that play the wildcat can't say that and it always shows in the NFL.

Just another Tebow!

Tebow > Pryor, so that makes Newton > Pryor!!!

[nineout]

Just another Tebow!

Tebow > Pryor, so that makes Newton > Pryor!!!

As a wildcat QB; yes your statement is correct. But as a real QB, NOT!!!

What's Tebow doing right now,backing up Kyle Orton.He couldn't even beat out Orton for the starting job.But at least he did get past Quinn.That's was something. I will say if I had to chose between Newton and Tebow, I would take Newton because I think he could become a real QB in the NFL with the right coach.

[shadetre]

...............a future NFL draft choice without a position

fidrych

3rd 4th round

[pmannings#1fan]

Is not responsible for MSU solicitating his (Cams') dad with money. My opinion is the board of ethics in Universities ought to fine the Athletic Dept and the coaches. If it was the father who did it, he should be charged with taking bribes or kickbacks. Cam is a great overall player!

[lrogge1979]

Cam Newton is getting his daddy paid $$$

[wolffer12]

well worth the 200,000 they paid for him :) enjoy it because he will be suspended next week and AU will forfit all of their games.

[ccrab1984]

Cam Newton is Overhyped just like Denard Robinson was. in a week or two when Auburn loses, no one will care about him

i have to say cam is a bit better than denard he has been consistant all year, big guy fast as all get out and doin it against sec defenses all year pretty impresive if ya ask me

so im gonna say cam newton is pretty darn impresive

[golfinglegend67]

Cam Newton is an ineligible player

[MasterPattie]

Cam Newton is...

...a Carolina Panther! :D

[ColtsCrush86]

...a Carolina Panther! :D

lol, what a waste of a pick

[Zacky1053]

It sounded even worse when it's official.

Cam Newton to Carolina.

[pmannings#1fan]

The first Pick in the 2011 draft!!!!

[jp98]

I actually laughed out loud when it was official...

[Zacky1053]

I actually laughed out loud when it was official...

At least they just announced it right away and didn't pretend to "think" for 8 minutes.

[achilles01987]

Cam Newton is a low IQd criminal with a douchebag shady ass father, who has no business even attending the draft!

[Zacky1053]

Cam Newton is a low IQd criminal with a douchebag shady ass father, who has no business even attending the draft!

Winning games I guess solves all life's problems.

[Kent Clements]

First, I'm a Rams fan :flex:



But thank god he was picked by Carolina because I'm glad the local Bills won't be taking him.



Kent

[jiggidy]

Cam Newton is..........

Gettin paid.....................legally this time

[jimssouvenirs]

Cam Newton is.... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

That's it. I'm going to be a fairweather fan from now on. I'm now a Buffalo fan. Woot, Spiller!

[FreshBreak]

Cam Newton is..... is sad he went to Carolina!!

[WhacksPacks]

Cam Newton is

-#1 Overall Pick in the 2011 NFL Draft
-National Champion @ UF
-National Champion @ Blinn
-National Champion at Auburn
-Heisman Winner
-Walter Camp Award Winner
-Maxwell Award Winner
-Davey O'Brien Award Winner
-Sporting News Player of the Year
-Sporting News All-American
-AP All American
-AFCA All-American
-Scout.com Natl. Off. Player of the Year
-Coaches SEC Off. Player of the Year
-AP SEC Off. Player of the Year
-AP All-SEC (1st)
-Coaches All-SEC (1st)
-6X SEC Off. Player of the Week
-6X Rivals.com SEC Player of the Week
-5X Rivals.com National Player of the Week
-2X Davey O'Brien Natl. QB of the Week

Cam Newton is: A Winner
Cam Newton is: Immune to Coming in Second

http://www.thesportsbank.net/core/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/cam-newton-hate.jpg

[cowboyzqna]

Bawhaha. Cam newton will win less than 10 games in his entire pro career.

[Chaddie84]

Cam Newton is talented like J Russell, but not lazy or fat!

[WhacksPacks]

Bawhaha. Cam newton will win less than 10 games in his entire pro career.

:)! sure thing big guy


I DO trust your eye for talent....what with being an Isaiah Stanback collector and all.....

[cowboyzqna]

Did you see his interview w/ gruden? Your boy is a shade shy of retarded lol. And thats the one thing he has spent his entire life on? Dumb dont lie and you can't fix stupid :D Good luck collecting his cards tho try to make it as impressive as that alex smith collection some guy has on ebay lol. Money well wasted. Good luck!

[WhacksPacks]

Did you see his interview w/ gruden? Your boy is a shade shy of retarded lol. And thats the one thing he has spent his entire life on? Dumb dont lie and you can't fix stupid :D Good luck collecting his cards tho try to make it as impressive as that alex smith collection some guy has on ebay lol. Money well wasted. Good luck!


I refer you again to the aforementioned list of accomplishments. I will also leave it at that until the season starts. It's not worth discussing if you equate lack of public speaking skills with being an NFL bust.
Carry On.

PS: Would love to hear Isaiah Stanback's oration of some of Tolstoy's early works.

Seems pretty on par w/ how Cam handles interviews and questions..
YouTube - Isaiah Stanback at Cowboys Training Camp on ESPN 1250 The Zone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDpax8vzKh4)

[cowboyzqna]

:) public speaking isn't the matter. To be able to call a play may be a quality you want in your qb. I would like to see cam sit at least this year so he at least has a chance. (And his cards will have value for box breaks which is good for the hobby) I think you may have my pc confused... i did not "invest" in stanback thinking he would be a stud... long story short I pulled an auto of his (gg /25) when i first got back into the hobby and being a lifelong cowboys fan it was an amazing pull for me (wasn't used to auto's lol) So I started a collection :) its been a "bust pc" for years... all the while being my favorite pc. That being said trust me I have been wrong a bunch in my life
Cam could be a stud in the nfl. Time will tell :D

[Semper_PatsFan]

...is the reason I should have sold my Five Star Jimmy Clausen auto when I pulled it instead of waiting:D.

[Pistolpete]

Is either the next Vick or McNabb.......or the next Ryan Leaf, Jamarcus Rusell.

But the one thing he is......he is about to make it rain

[jbellis74]

Cam Newton is

-#1 Overall Pick in the 2011 NFL Draft
-National Champion @ UF

http://www.thesportsbank.net/core/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/cam-newton-hate.jpg

Cant put much stock in winning with UF. He didnt do that much. The number one pick is also not a real valid argument here

[allday_vikes]

Cam Newton will cost Ron Rivera his job!!

[ManInTheMirror]

The number one pick is also not a real valid argument here
Sure it is! He "won" the 2011 NFL Draft!!! WINNING

[jbellis74]

Sure it is! He "won" the 2011 NFL Draft!!! WINNING

True he is making a lot of money now

[WhacksPacks]

:) public speaking isn't the matter. To be able to call a play may be a quality you want in your qb. I would like to see cam sit at least this year so he at least has a chance. (And his cards will have value for box breaks which is good for the hobby) I think you may have my pc confused... i did not "invest" in stanback thinking he would be a stud... long story short I pulled an auto of his (gg /25) when i first got back into the hobby and being a lifelong cowboys fan it was an amazing pull for me (wasn't used to auto's lol) So I started a collection :) its been a "bust pc" for years... all the while being my favorite pc. That being said trust me I have been wrong a bunch in my life
Cam could be a stud in the nfl. Time will tell :D

then we should've been friends in 2007....it seems that I pulled nothing BUT Stanback with an occasional David Clowney mixed in..even in high end..those guys HAUNTED me:eek:

[gabebroncos]

is probably one of the biggest scrubs ive seen, a faster tim tebow with none of the good perks

[WhacksPacks]

is probably one of the biggest scrubs ive seen, a faster tim tebow with none of the good perks

lol...
Rip on his "character issues" if you must...heck, rip on Carolina picking him first...but to say he is one of the biggest scrubs you've ever seen shows that 1) you don't watch that much football and/or 2) you don't know too much about the game either.
Both of which are fine...they just don't compliment your "matter of fact" statements too well. :o

[freethrowtommy]

... the last rookie #1 to sign in INSANE bonus... and will bust out of the league. Jimmy Clausen will be a better pro than Cam Newton.

MARK. IT. DOWN.

[WhacksPacks]

... the last rookie #1 to sign in INSANE bonus... and will bust out of the league. Jimmy Clausen will be a better pro than Cam Newton.

MARK. IT. DOWN.

Marked. :rolleyes:

[ColtsCrush86]

LOL. can't wait for all the crappy Cam newton rookie cards to be flooding the market this year. Trust me, i will be selling any i pull asap to the fools shelling out the bucks for more overhyped rookies

[danmecum51]

Cam newton got shut down by a "weak" Oregon defense. Seen the game live, he took some huge hits. Auburn fans couldnt believe how ineffective he was. Their heroic gladiator was most effective handing the ball off. Now imagine how cam is going to react to urlacher, Matthews, or suh hitting him a couple times...... Wet rag


Yes I know auburn won, but it had nothing to do with cam, their backs tore up Oregon.

[jimssouvenirs]

... the last rookie #1 to sign in INSANE bonus... and will bust out of the league. Jimmy Clausen will be a better pro than Cam Newton.

MARK. IT. DOWN.

I marked it for you ;)

[CheeseHead12]

Cam Newton is

-#1 Overall Pick in the 2011 NFL Draft
-National Champion @ UF
-National Champion @ Blinn
-National Champion at Auburn
-Heisman Winner
-Walter Camp Award Winner
-Maxwell Award Winner
-Davey O'Brien Award Winner
-Sporting News Player of the Year
-Sporting News All-American
-AP All American
-AFCA All-American
-Scout.com Natl. Off. Player of the Year
-Coaches SEC Off. Player of the Year
-AP SEC Off. Player of the Year
-AP All-SEC (1st)
-Coaches All-SEC (1st)
-6X SEC Off. Player of the Week
-6X Rivals.com SEC Player of the Week
-5X Rivals.com National Player of the Week
-2X Davey O'Brien Natl. QB of the Week

Cam Newton is: A Winner
Cam Newton is: Immune to Coming in Second

http://www.thesportsbank.net/core/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/cam-newton-hate.jpg


Nice! Thats almost as impressive as Danny Wuerffel.

[hojer05]

Cam Newton is Jamarcus Russell's step brother...oh and the third biggest mistake made by Carolina since they have started

1. Creating the franchise
2. Julius Peppers leaving
3. Cam Newton

[yankeesfan24]

Cam Newton is Jamarcus Russell's step brother...oh and the third biggest mistake made by Carolina since they have started

1. Creating the franchise
2. Julius Peppers leaving
3. Cam Newton

LMAO, love #1

[38stud]

Cam Newton, A.K.A. JaMarcus Leaf :D.

[sportscardguy71]

Cam Newton= Akili Smith

[ManInTheMirror]

Cam Newton = Cam Newton :eek:

[gabebroncos]

Cam Newton, A.K.A. JaMarcus Leaf :D.

lol i couldnt have said it better myself

[MasterPattie]

Cam Newton is...

...currently #2 on the Panthers depth chart.

Cam Newton No. 2 on Panthers' first depth chart | CharlotteObserver.com & The Charlotte Observer Newspaper (http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/08/09/2516720/panthers-depth-chart-newton.html)

[garpike]

Damnit....Pike is gonna get hosed.

:(

[MasterPattie]

Damnit....Pike is gonna get hosed.

:(

Practice squad, unless he gets picked up by another team.

[kyle1707]

Cam newton is not as good as Vince Young

[garpike]

Practice squad, unless he gets picked up by another team.

Yep. :( It really is too bad. He was looking so good coming out of college. Then he has gotten stuck behind Clausen, then injury, now behind Fig Newton, Clausen and Anderson...and injury again.

[CarolinaGuy]

...currently #2 on the Panthers depth chart.
Cam Newton No. 2 on Panthers' first depth chart | CharlotteObserver.com & The Charlotte Observer Newspaper (http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/08/09/2516720/panthers-depth-chart-newton.html)

CarolinaGuy is......in love with this statement!:flex:

[allday_vikes]

Cam Newton is Richer than all of us and he don't give a @#$@ what we all think of him!!!

[jeffgates_3716]

LMAO, love #1

If they didn't pick him at #1 the next team would have. Can't pass up on the best player in the draft.:)!

[ColtsCrush86]

Cam Newton is Richer than all of us and he don't give a @#$@ what we all think of him!!!

more of your useless 0 itrader input

[allday_vikes]

more of your useless 0 itrader input
hahahaha thanks buddy I'll make sure to send all the Manning base your way next time instead of the garbage can to get some itrader!!! lols

[ColtsCrush86]

hahahaha thanks buddy I'll make sure to send all the Manning base your way next time instead of the garbage can to get some itrader!!! lols

well, lets see some of your cards :)!

[mrbucsfan24]

Cam Newton is vince young on roids. Don't even say he's overhyped he was a beast in college.

[CarolinaGuy]

Cam Newton is vince young on roids. Don't even say he's overhyped he was a beast in college.

Please note the word that is underlined.

[MI Rob]

Cam Newton is overhyped. Sure he was decent in college, but thats the past and hes now 2nd on an NFL depth chart. 2nd behind Clausen at that :)!

[ManInTheMirror]

Cam Newton is overhyped. Sure he was decent in college, but thats the past and hes now 2nd on an NFL depth chart. 2nd behind Clausen at that :)!
I get what you are saying Rob but the bolded parts don't really mean much this early in his career.

[CarolinaGuy]

Cam Newton is overhyped. Sure he was decent in college, but thats the past and hes now 2nd on an NFL depth chart. 2nd behind Clausen at that :)!

:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(That hurts me.

[canuhandle23]

is a nice guy...took pics..signed autos...personalized stuff....and treated all the kids in the childrens hospital with respect and wasnt shy or standoffish. I wish him the best and hopes he has a productive career where ever that may lead him

[jeffgates_3716]

Please note the word that is underlined.

So was Tebow, so was Bradford, and the list goes on. Everyone in the NFL started there whats your point. Just can't say that everyone did what he "CAM" did:)!

[MasterPattie]

Cam Newton is ___________



starting tonight's game :D

Cam Newton Named Friday Starter - ESPN Video - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6871373)

[Qwasian]

he's clearly stronger than any other rookie quarterback, and to me that's saying something? it was a strong quarterback draft class. the only reason he's second behind clausen is he didn't have a chance to play? I mean what chart is that even? a pre-season chart on a website somebody made up? he's starting tonight so doesn't that say it all?

[Qwasian]

lol @ the nfl acting like newton did terrible in his second game, he did just as well as clausen.......... they act like he lost the starting job or something..... not sure why though because his productivity was the same, didn't have a great game and it was against the dolphins but eh?

[peeweeherman]

Cam Newton is vince young on roids. Don't even say he's overhyped he was a beast in college.

College is one thing,and the nfl is way different.I was not impressed with the championship game.I was looking for a Vince Young type show vs USC.

I am not a pro scout or get paid to prospect,but some players you can look at and tell they will do good.Like how could you watch AP slide as much as he did,Randy moss and Big Ben.Those players you knew was going to be good.

I was wrong about A.Rodgers,i didnt think he would be good.But,i dont see Cam being anything in the nfl.

Running good QB's are rare in the nfl.

[Qwasian]

College is one thing,and the nfl is way different.I was not impressed with the championship game.I was looking for a Vince Young type show vs USC.

I am not a pro scout or get paid to prospect,but some players you can look at and tell they will do good.Like how could you watch AP slide as much as he did,Randy moss and Big Ben.Those players you knew was going to be good.

I was wrong about A.Rodgers,i didnt think he would be good.But,i dont see Cam being anything in the nfl.

Running good QB's are rare in the nfl.



running "GOOD" QB's are rare? i'd definately say that's wrong, almost every QB that was able to scramble was "GOOD"........ maybe not elite, but they are good.

[jasonat911]

...going to be interesting to watch no matter what happens. he was good in college, but his flaws will be much more apparent in the nfl, and his running ability may not be enough to save him. he also doesnt have a great receiving corps, so i think carolina would be better off running a headed option monster with j stew, goodson, and deang will rotating around cam

[MasterPattie]

Cam Newton is ___________

...tearing apart the Cards in the first half! :eek:

[ItsVaderTime]

Cam Newton is ___________



Scared of the Green Bay Packers and will be 0-2 to start the season.

[cking]

Cam Newton is a QB who gets a big fat "L" regardless of how good he played. He lost. Period. Do you think the higher ups in Carolina will consider it a successful season if the Panthers go 2-14 but Newton has a good year, stats wise? Stats mean nothing. The only thing that matters is wins and losses.

[frzg]

Cam Newton is a QB who gets a big fat "L" regardless of how good he played. He lost. Period. Do you think the higher ups in Carolina will consider it a successful season if the Panthers go 2-14 but Newton has a good year, stats wise? Stats mean nothing. The only thing that matters is wins and losses.

Um yes? They are in a rebuilding year, if there #1 pick plays like a top franchise QB they would be thrilled, what a stupid comment. Cam Newton had the best rookie performance by a QB in his first game ever, yes, ever.

[cking]

Um yes? They are in a rebuilding year, if there #1 pick plays like a top franchise QB they would be thrilled, what a stupid comment. Cam Newton had the best rookie performance by a QB in his first game ever, yes, ever.

All for what? A loss. They lost. There is no justifing stats if you lose. Ever. If you dont believe this to be true, then do some research and find out how many times a player has won the MVP of the NBA Finals, Stanley Cup, Super Bowl or World Series from the team that has lost. It has happened, but not very often.

[mortatort]

All for what? A loss. They lost. There is no justifing stats if you lose. Ever.


uhhh.. ok. whatever you say :confused:

[balling916]

Cam Newton is a QB who gets a big fat "L" regardless of how good he played. He lost. Period. Do you think the higher ups in Carolina will consider it a successful season if the Panthers go 2-14 but Newton has a good year, stats wise? Stats mean nothing. The only thing that matters is wins and losses.

I agree with Frgz... this is a ridiculous statement. Of course they'll care if he puts up great numbers! If he has a great season, that means that they already have the cornerstone of their team, and that's one less concern for them. There's a reason they were able to draft Newton in the first place, and it's because the Panthers as a whole are riddled with issues.

[TrueNE_09]

This whole win/loss/stats argument is stupid.

Of course stats mean something - they mean A LOT - win or lose. Yes, at the end of the day and at the season wins and losses are what really matter, and a single QB's stats won't get you into the bowl, but damn of course they matter.

Newton is a rookie QB. He needs time to grow and develop, and games like this - win or lose - will go a long way towards that growth and development. He needs to keep playing well and along the way hope to snag a few wins. This is a franchise view for the Panthers. They know that if Cam can play great (and YES, this was a GREAT first game) that win or lose the team will come around. They'll build around him. Maybe they won't win 12 games this year, but it will happen with time.

Stats and development first....and wins to go with it are the icing on the cake. But for now,yes, they'll take stats because they know with a centerpiece QB the team will bear fruit in the longer run....

Case closed.

[armyatc22]

I do agree with some points from everyone...

1st off I love going back and reading all the comments when this thread started last year (ok I was bored at work already, no aircraft this early)

Yes in the NFL the head office is looking for Wins not Losses this is true BUT this isnt like College where 1 loss and your on the ropes the rest of the season trying to go for the Champ. A few losses here and there wont hurt anything.

Cam's Stats were impressive for his first ever game even though they lost the game. Unless one of the 4 QB's tonight go off (Brady has the best chance) Cam will be the best QB of the week even though he lost.

The best thing that came out of this is that Cam now has that inital game out of the way and can prepare himself for his first BIG game vs the defending and HOT as hell Packers. He might have thrown for over 400 yards this week but its about a 5% chance that he will do it again next week.

He did feel a few sacks and hard tackles this week but hopefully he will be ready for a much harder and stronger D next week...

Cam and Steve Smith already have a great connection and he also has other targets too in Olsen, Shocky, NaaNee, and Lafell. You also cant forget about Williams and J Stew in the backfield. Shoot now that I look at it he has a TON of weapons!!!

My Predictions for the rest of the year:
GB-L
Jac-W
Chi-L
NO-L
ATL-L
WAS-W
MIN-W
TEN-W
DET-L
IND-W
TB-W
ATL-W
HOU-L
TB-L
NO-L

Also a few of the Losses will be by a TD or less

I think a 6-9 lossing Record will make the Front office happy and also beable to draft a decent D player in the first round of the next draft

[DetectiveChrome]

I didn't watch it but...

Cam Newton is...lucky to have Steve Smith?

It's Arizona's D, nothing to write home about.

[Qwasian]

Cam Newton is overhyped. Sure he was decent in college, but thats the past and hes now 2nd on an NFL depth chart. 2nd behind Clausen at that :)!

obviously the depth chart is incorrect, he started and threw for 400+ yards.....
he started, how can he be the #2 man? isn't it obvious your statement is wrong?

[Qwasian]

I didn't watch it but...

Cam Newton is...lucky to have Steve Smith?

It's Arizona's D, nothing to write home about.

every good QB has amazing wide outs.... whats your point, this is the NFL.

[Boo]

I do agree with some points from everyone...

1st off I love going back and reading all the comments when this thread started last year (ok I was bored at work already, no aircraft this early)

Yes in the NFL the head office is looking for Wins not Losses this is true BUT this isnt like College where 1 loss and your on the ropes the rest of the season trying to go for the Champ. A few losses here and there wont hurt anything.

Cam's Stats were impressive for his first ever game even though they lost the game. Unless one of the 4 QB's tonight go off (Brady has the best chance) Cam will be the best QB of the week even though he lost.

The best thing that came out of this is that Cam now has that inital game out of the way and can prepare himself for his first BIG game vs the defending and HOT as hell Packers. He might have thrown for over 400 yards this week but its about a 5% chance that he will do it again next week.

He did feel a few sacks and hard tackles this week but hopefully he will be ready for a much harder and stronger D next week...

Cam and Steve Smith already have a great connection and he also has other targets too in Olsen, Shocky, NaaNee, and Lafell. You also cant forget about Williams and J Stew in the backfield. Shoot now that I look at it he has a TON of weapons!!!

My Predictions for the rest of the year:
GB-L
Jac-W
Chi-L
NO-L
ATL-L
WAS-W
MIN-W
TEN-W
DET-L
IND-W
TB-W
ATL-W
HOU-L
TB-L
NO-L

Also a few of the Losses will be by a TD or less

I think a 6-9 lossing Record will make the Front office happy and also beable to draft a decent D player in the first round of the next draft

Give me the under on 6 wins...waaaay under! Cards D sucks, that's the reason he had a good game.

[saintsfan9]

this cking guy is just a hater. i dont like cam either but he had a great game, win or lose.

If we used cking's rules for judging a player's quality drew brees is trash cause he lost week 1, and thats all that matters, 3tds 0 ints is bad, peterson is one of the worst RBs in the NFL (last season's record and 0-1 so far)... and so on.......

[dustin9900]

All i know is give me whoever is QBing against the cards every week in my fantasy league, geesh that defense has more holes than a fine swiss cheese!

[freethrowtommy]

Not a Cam fan, thought he would be a huge bust... but he played a heck of a game. Too early to say that I am wrong because Arizona sucks... but he definitely made a dent in my haterade.

[Apakalypto]

All I know is he had a huge game last night, and i cant really take that away from the guy.

I dont card who you are playing 400+ yards and 2 td's in an NFL debut is pretty impressive.

Only time will tell how his career will pan out, but he is off to a good start.

I will say this....His cards are selling for a crap load of money. which is all right with me since I'm selling not buying CAM.

[cking]

What exactly am I hating on. Cam LOST no matter how good he played, he still lost!!!

[frzg]

What exactly am I hating on. Cam LOST no matter how good he played, he still lost!!!

You are so beyond clueless.

Cam Newton is a QB who gets a big fat "L" regardless of how good he played. He lost. Period. Do you think the higher ups in Carolina will consider it a successful season if the Panthers go 2-14 but Newton has a good year, stats wise? Stats mean nothing. The only thing that matters is wins and losses.

Peyton Manning went 3-13 his first year but had a fantastic year statistically and was the building block for 10+ years of Colts playoff runs. Do you think at the end of Peyton's season the Colts were like 'well we drafted a loser'?

Troy Aikman was 0-11 as a starter his rookie year, and again the Cowboys probably should have cut him because WINS/LOSSES are 100% attributed to the QB.

If you still cannot see how unbelievably ignorant you are on this topic, well then you're either trolling or just an absolute idiot.

[Footballcardguy]

I think this will be another long season. The defense is not very good. The defense without Beason will be flat out bad. Rookie QB + bad D = less than 5 wins. However, Cam looked good. Better than anyone expected.

[cking]

You are so beyond clueless.



Peyton Manning went 3-13 his first year but had a fantastic year statistically and was the building block for 10+ years of Colts playoff runs. Do you think at the end of Peyton's season the Colts were like 'well we drafted a loser'?

Troy Aikman was 0-11 as a starter his rookie year, and again the Cowboys probably should have cut him because WINS/LOSSES are 100% attributed to the QB.

If you still cannot see how unbelievably ignorant you are on this topic, well then you're either trolling or just an absolute idiot.

You mentioning Cam Newtons name in the same post with Peyton Manning and Troy Aikman shows who the clueless one is, yikes:eek:

[jimssouvenirs]

You mentioning Cam Newtons name in the same post with Peyton Manning and Troy Aikman shows who the clueless one is, yikes:eek:

He mentioned them as rookies... seems pretty fair to evaluate rookie accomplishments with those of other rookies. Unless, of course, you have an unreasonable dislike for an individual whom you do not know, and who hasn't had much of a chance to prove himself past your bias.

[cking]

He mentioned them as rookies... seems pretty fair to evaluate rookie accomplishments with those of other rookies. Unless, of course, you have an unreasonable dislike for an individual whom you do not know, and who hasn't had much of a chance to prove himself past your bias.

I dont dislike Cam Newton. The guy has talent, that is obvious. The thing that was frustrating me with this thread was everyone saying it is ok to lose as long as Cam Newton has good stats? I dont and wont ever agree with that. There is no justification when you lose in pro sports. As Herman Edwards would say "You play to win the game" Period. You dont play to lose the game and have good stats do you? Ask Dan Marino if he would give all his eye popping stats and records he held or still holds for 1 Super Bowl Ring? I dont make it a habit to speak for other people but I can say with 110% certintey that his answer would be yes he would.

[MasterPattie]

Cam Newton is ___________



...going through the Packers defense like sh*t through a goose. :o

[Qwasian]

THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rletlow]

What exactly am I hating on. Cam LOST no matter how good he played, he still lost!!!

Sorry cking. You are wrong on this one. Newton is the real deal.
The guy came onto a 2-14 team. All he can do is help his team the best he can.
Most every great QB had a losing record their first year. They have to have more pieces than an aging Steve Smith.
The guy is a beast and will start racking up wins when they get him some help.
Why do you think I always tried to pick the panthers in Josh's breaks.
WAR EAGLE.

[jp98]

IS....alot beter than the pathetic Luke McCown.

[Qwasian]

What exactly am I hating on. Cam LOST no matter how good he played, he still lost!!!

if it wasn't a shootout he wouldn't have lost, typically when you have his performance your team wins.

[garpike]

an 0-2 NFL QB.

:D

[mnvikingstwins]

an 0-2 NFL QB.

:D

An equal to Donovan McNabb

[gunshowboy]

First ever NFL QB to start his career with to 400yd+ passing games. EVER.

[cking]

an 0-2 NFL QB.

:D

Agreed:D And by the way before I forget.

J-E-T-S JETS, JETS, JETS

My signature sums it all upppppppppppppppp:devil::devil::devil:

[Irish]

Agreed:D And by the way before I forget.

J-E-T-S JETS, JETS, JETS

My signature sums it all upppppppppppppppp:devil::devil::devil:

i knew jets fans were incapable of critical thinking but 2 games for over 400+yards against the reigning superbowl champs?

lol youre starting to show much ignorance, as a team they lost, as a qb hes doing extremely well and youd be an idiot to bring up the teams win loss record because we arent talking about the panthers we are talking about cam newton :)

[cking]

i knew jets fans were incapable of critical thinking but 2 games for over 400+yards against the reigning superbowl champs?

lol youre starting to show much ignorance, as a team they lost, as a qb hes doing extremely well and youd be an idiot to bring up the teams win loss record because we arent talking about the panthers we are talking about cam newton :)

Yea, and Cam Newton is the QB on a team that is 0-2. I know thats not what you want to hear but it does not change the fact that he is 0-2 as a starting QB in the NFL. What I bolded in your statement shows your ignorance. Now wins and losses dont matter?:confused::confused: Thats all that matters. Ask any pro athlete if they had one of the two options below, which would they choose.

Option #1--Win the game, who cares about stats!
Option #2--Lose the game, but have good stats?

I can understand a cardcollector and investor not caring about wins and losses as we all know Cams cards will sell well as long as he continues to play well,regardless if Carloina is winning or losing. Its only been two games. lets see how this plays out. But in the real NFL it is only a matter of time before fans and carolina higher ups get sick of losing. If hes so good, why are they losing then? A couple more losses and these questions will start popping up. In todays world of instant gratification he is gonna be on a short leash.

[Cubs_rock21]

Stats mean nothing if you lose???? What idiot said that? Tell that to the players. These guys like to win, but its also a job. Good stats = more dollars. Yea, tell Cam Newton Stats mean nothing. IF Newton throws for 400 yards every game and goes 2-14, you can guarantee they are locking him up with a fat contract for years and than buying a new defense.

[studioU]

Yea, and Cam Newton is the QB on a team that is 0-2. I know thats not what you want to hear but it does not change the fact that he is 0-2 as a starting QB in the NFL. What I bolded in your statement shows your ignorance. Now wins and losses dont matter?:confused::confused: Thats all that matters. Ask any pro athlete if they had one of the two options below, which would they choose.

Option #1--Win the game, who cares about stats!
Option #2--Lose the game, but have good stats?

I can understand a cardcollector and investor not caring about wins and losses as we all know Cams cards will sell well as long as he continues to play well,regardless if Carloina is winning or losing. Its only been two games. lets see how this plays out. But in the real NFL it is only a matter of time before fans and carolina higher ups get sick of losing. If hes so good, why are they losing then? A couple more losses and these questions will start popping up. In todays world of instant gratification he is gonna be on a short leash.

They are losing because:a)they have a terrible defense b)his best target is an ageing wideout c)their running game is pedestrian at best.

[cking]

I will give Cam credit for one thing. After the game at the podium he said all the right things. He said that he wanted to win now and that it was only a matter of time until they "get it". The thing that impressed me the most was what he did not say. Not once in the post game interview did he mention his stats in either game. He has a really bad reputation for being selfish and it seems like maybe he is snapping out of that and putting the team first. Seeing how this plays out every week has sparked alot of intrest in the game as a whole for me. Time will tell I guess.

[freethrowtommy]

They are losing because:a)they have a terrible defense b)his best target is an ageing wideout c)their running game is pedestrian at best.

I don't think b is very fair. Yeah, their best player is Steve Smith, but they have a pretty good offensive with lots of weapons. D. Williams is a good back, Greg Olsen and Shockey are a pretty good TE tandem and Brandon Lafell came on pretty well yesterday with some huge catches. The offense isn't the issue for the Panthers... Cam has weapons. It is only a matter of time before they outscore someone.

c really isn't fair either. They only ran the ball 11 times outside of Newton taking it himself.

[Irish]

Yea, and Cam Newton is the QB on a team that is 0-2. I know thats not what you want to hear but it does not change the fact that he is 0-2 as a starting QB in the NFL. What I bolded in your statement shows your ignorance. Now wins and losses dont matter?:confused::confused: Thats all that matters. Ask any pro athlete if they had one of the two options below, which would they choose.

Option #1--Win the game, who cares about stats!
Option #2--Lose the game, but have good stats?

I can understand a cardcollector and investor not caring about wins and losses as we all know Cams cards will sell well as long as he continues to play well,regardless if Carloina is winning or losing. Its only been two games. lets see how this plays out. But in the real NFL it is only a matter of time before fans and carolina higher ups get sick of losing. If hes so good, why are they losing then? A couple more losses and these questions will start popping up. In todays world of instant gratification he is gonna be on a short leash.

you seem to be under the impression a quarterback is responsible for the entire team????

if thats the case your argument is pretty close to ridiculous like i said before and ill say it again

I am not talking about a win loss record BECAUSE thats an entire teams issue

I AM talking about just cam newton who standing alone is putting up great numbers... capiche?

[Qwasian]

anybody who thinks the carolina panthers have weapons is insane........ as compared to who? every other team in the league has better receivers just about. cam is making that team look better than what they actually are with his passing.

this is a 2-14 team from last year

clausen had a 50 QB rating last year, cam has around a 90 already in 2 games, they tried to give the job to clausen and he did nothing once again in pre'season.......

how is it not painfully obvious that Cam is talented?

if the weapons were so great, why couldn't clausen use them like Cam could?

people make up excuse after excuse as to why they don't want to like cam newton

how about just letting it go and understanding he has had one of the best rookie showings ever in the NFL...... it's completely pointless to say anything negative about him right now, if you do, YOU ARE WRONG.

his first 2 games really couldn't be much better, if he were on a better team they would have won, and i'm sure they will win more games this season the way he's passing.

[redsoxx11]

anybody who thinks the carolina panthers have weapons is insane........ as compared to who? every other team in the league has better receivers just about. cam is making that team look better than what they actually are with his passing.

this is a 2-14 team from last year

clausen had a 50 QB rating last year, cam has around a 90 already in 2 games, they tried to give the job to clausen and he did nothing once again in pre'season.......

how is it not painfully obvious that Cam is talented?

if the weapons were so great, why couldn't clausen use them like Cam could?

people make up excuse after excuse as to why they don't want to like cam newton

how about just letting it go and understanding he has had one of the best rookie showings ever in the NFL...... it's completely pointless to say anything negative about him right now, if you do, YOU ARE WRONG.

his first 2 games really couldn't be much better, if he were on a better team they would have won, and i'm sure they will win more games this season the way he's passing.

He sucks...

[armyatc22]

Again I agree with little parts from everyone lol this debate can go on forever

In my opinion he is doing great. He is a rookie and has played well in both games. He has showed us that yes he is a rookie and has some learning to do but I bet all the panthers fans are still happy in his performance.

He did have 3 INT's in this game but in my eyes the turnover that swung it for GB (even though I think they were in the lead already) was the fumble by Smith. The panthers look like a momentum type team and when they are hot they are just that but 1 play will stop it all and that's where the rookie had to learn.

Wins do matter a lot because if you don't win then what happens? Your sitting on your butt watching the postseason. The good thing about it is that its not the NCAA where 1 or 2 wins and it's over. The NFL usually has a lot of close races and actually if you look at it they are only 1 game behind the rest of the NFC South with it only being week 2.

A lot of people go back and forth on his "weapons" and how good or not good they are well with Olsen, Schocky, Smith, Lafell (he is proving himself :) ) Williams and Stewert I think that's a decent core of weapons. Not the top at their positions but still enough where you can't just leave them alone.

The panthers are 0-2 with a Rookie QB that has had 2 more then decent games to learn off of and both losses are only by a TD too and not blowouts.

He has that "it" factor and will bring in tickets and eyes wanting to see how he does

[Qwasian]

He sucks...

alot of people from boston are racist anyway, so it's obvious on your opinion. your a patriots fan and he's competiting with tom brady 2 weeks in a row on sports center, but he sucks, hilarious.

[blackbears86]

Cam is the real deal. Did you hear Aaron Rodgers after the game? "this guy is good" "glad we don't face him later this year when he figures this out" And this was after he lit up one of the best d's in the league.

Cam is doing this with sublevel talent. What round did steve smith get drafted in your fantasy league this year? In my league he went in the 8th round. Shockey is subpar, and who's brandon lafell? Cam is making those around him better.



unanimous offensive rookie of the year....

[freethrowtommy]

Cam is the real deal. Did you hear Aaron Rodgers after the game? "this guy is good" "glad we don't face him later this year when he figures this out" And this was after he lit up one of the best d's in the league.

Cam is doing this with sublevel talent. What round did steve smith get drafted in your fantasy league this year? In my league he went in the 8th round. Shockey is subpar, and who's brandon lafell? Cam is making those around him better.



unanimous offensive rookie of the year....

You don't read posts above yours, do you? Subpar talent on offense my ass. Steve Smith might be aging but he can still play, and Lafell stepped up huge. Greg Olsen is a damn good TE and Shockey can still get it done at times. D. Will is still a good RB... they have plenty of weapons on offense. Newton isn't doing this all by himself. You don't put up 400+ yards passing two weeks in a row with nobody to throw to...

Look, I don't like Newton, but he is putting on a show and looks like he could be great. You still can't discount what he has on offense to work with.

[Qwasian]

yeah man after all these guys were so great last year....... give me a break...... cam newton is putting up tom brady numbers on the 2-14 panthers..... GET OVER IT..... he's a beast.

[DetectiveChrome]

Tom brady numbers but the most important part was missing, no leading to victory like Brady and he had 3INT's. Heck, Hasselback had 358.

Finally faced a good defense without Tramon Williams and had GB's shifting their secondary.

A good test for the kid but they still won't get many wins this year.

He has been suprising though, exceeded my expectations so far.

[vike]

yeah man after all these guys were so great last year....... give me a break...... cam newton is putting up tom brady numbers on the 2-14 panthers..... GET OVER IT..... he's a beast.

Steve smith missed 2 games last year, how Many did d Williams and j stew miss? Also Olsen n schockey not on team last year. TE was king.

Edit:
D Williams missed 10
J stew missed 2

[armyatc22]

I do agree with some points from everyone...

1st off I love going back and reading all the comments when this thread started last year (ok I was bored at work already, no aircraft this early)

Yes in the NFL the head office is looking for Wins not Losses this is true BUT this isnt like College where 1 loss and your on the ropes the rest of the season trying to go for the Champ. A few losses here and there wont hurt anything.

Cam's Stats were impressive for his first ever game even though they lost the game. Unless one of the 4 QB's tonight go off (Brady has the best chance) Cam will be the best QB of the week even though he lost.

The best thing that came out of this is that Cam now has that inital game out of the way and can prepare himself for his first BIG game vs the defending and HOT as hell Packers. He might have thrown for over 400 yards this week but its about a 5% chance that he will do it again next week.

He did feel a few sacks and hard tackles this week but hopefully he will be ready for a much harder and stronger D next week...

Cam and Steve Smith already have a great connection and he also has other targets too in Olsen, Shocky, NaaNee, and Lafell. You also cant forget about Williams and J Stew in the backfield. Shoot now that I look at it he has a TON of weapons!!!

My Predictions for the rest of the year:
GB-L
Jac-W
Chi-L
NO-L
ATL-L
WAS-W
MIN-W
TEN-W
DET-L
IND-W
TB-W
ATL-W
HOU-L
TB-L
NO-L

Also a few of the Losses will be by a TD or less

I think a 6-9 lossing Record will make the Front office happy and also beable to draft a decent D player in the first round of the next draft

Looking back at my post from a week ago.....

1st Bold---Called it :)

2nd Bold---Way off on that one lol

I still stand by this record except I might change a game or 2 like a win vs CHI

3rd Bold---both games so far they have lost by a TD


Thoughts?

[Qwasian]

Steve smith missed 2 games last year, how Many did d Williams and j stew miss? Also Olsen n schockey not on team last year. TE was king.

Edit:
D Williams missed 10
J stew missed 2

you forgot one important part about all this lovely information, NONE of it means they are any good........

honestly what team in the league doesn't have a better wide out than smith? i'll wait.......... most teams have a better entire receiving core and backfield..... it's like people want to give you reasons as to why these players should be good and cam newton is not good? but why would you want to do that? it's like your trying to prove cam newton is not good, when clearly he is.

I mean? if people claiming brandon lafell is a superstar wideout in the nfl isn't a stretch I don't know what is.........

of course everybody in the NFL is "GOOD"......... but c'mon.

[freethrowtommy]

you forgot one important part about all this lovely information, NONE of it means they are any good........

honestly what team in the league doesn't have a better wide out than smith? i'll wait.......... most teams have a better entire receiving core and backfield..... it's like people want to give you reasons as to why these players should be good and cam newton is not good? but why would you want to do that? it's like your trying to prove cam newton is not good, when clearly he is.

I mean? if people claiming brandon lafell is a superstar wideout in the nfl isn't a stretch I don't know what is.........

of course everybody in the NFL is "GOOD"......... but c'mon.

Really? First off, I am pretty sure NOBODY has called Lafell a "superstar"... he stepped up big last game which means a lot.

Also, I am pretty sure the Panthers have better WR/TE than the Titans, Seahawks, Rams, Bears, Raiders, and Jags to name a few. Also, you have to look at the TEs who can both catch very well. To say that he is doing this himself is asinine.

You might want to jump of Cam's sack for a bit. He is a good player, but you obviously need something decent to work with to throw for 400+.

[blackbears86]

You don't read posts above yours, do you? Subpar talent on offense my ass. Steve Smith might be aging but he can still play, and Lafell stepped up huge. Greg Olsen is a damn good TE and Shockey can still get it done at times. D. Will is still a good RB... they have plenty of weapons on offense. Newton isn't doing this all by himself. You don't put up 400+ yards passing two weeks in a row with nobody to throw to...

Look, I don't like Newton, but he is putting on a show and looks like he could be great. You still can't discount what he has on offense to work with.

Besides Cam, D. Williams is the only other superstar on this team. What did steve smith do the last three years?? The saints dumped shockey, and olsen is average, an offensively anemic chicago team dropped him....What did this team do last year with clausen? Cam is raising the bar of those around him.

I'm not saying these guys blow, but come on. Olsen, lafell, and shockey were not drafted in any of my three fantasy leagues this year, only D. Wlliams and Steve Smith, and they went in the late rounds.

[freethrowtommy]

Besides Cam, D. Williams is the only other superstar on this team. What did steve smith do the last three years?? The saints dumped shockey, and olsen is average, an anemic chicago team dropped him....What did this team do of those around himlast year with clausen? NOTHING!! Cam is raising the bar of those around him.

Smith has been injured but can still play when healthy. Olsen is a talent that Chicago wasted because Martz doesn't use TEs at all. Shockey was injured and replaced by younger TEs in NO... he can still play, he is just a headcase.

Yes, Cam is a good passer... that can't be denied.

Yes, Cam is raising the bar and can extend the play to get people open... but if the WR/TE don't catch the ball, he doesn't have 400 yards... I don't know why this is so hard to understand. He got more players to work with.

And it is funny that you anoint Cam a "superstar" already... would you consider Rex Grossman a superstar? He has a higher QB rating and the Redskins are 2-0...

[freethrowtommy]

Also, if you like the new QBR, Cam's rating after 2 weeks is 53.1 out of 100. Right in the middle of the NFL pack. NFL - Week 2 Total QBR Season Leaders - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6990396/nfl-week-2-total-qbr-season-leaders)

[blackbears86]

Yes it's way to early but in the hype of the NFL, he is a superstar. Did you see chris' post this morning? What's all over sportscenter? Who's highlights are shown first? Andy Dalton's had two great games to start this year, is anyone talking about him?

who would you rather pull in a pack of cards? I throw all my shockey, lafell, and olsen cards in my commons box.

[freethrowtommy]

Yes it's way to early but in the hype of the NFL, he is a superstar. Did you see chris' post this morning? What's all over sportscenter? Who's highlights are shown first? Andy Dalton's had two great games to start this year, is anyone talking about him?

who would you rather pull in a pack of cards? I throw all my shockey, lafell, and olsen cards in my commons box.

It is because he is flashy and new... everyone likes the new toy (case and point: Randall Cobb cards last week...). People are drawn to hype and Cam has it in spades... hype sells product, simple as that. He is a good looking dude, says all the right things and is putting up numbers... everything you want in an up and coming player. But he is not a superstar yet...

As long as it draws it away from Rodgers so I can get his cards cheaper, I don't care.

[blackbears86]

It is because he is flashy and new... everyone likes the new toy (case and point: Randall Cobb cards last week...). People are drawn to hype and Cam has it in spades... hype sells product, simple as that. He is a good looking dude, says all the right things and is putting up numbers... everything you want in an up and coming player. But he is not a superstar yet...

As long as it draws it away from Rodgers so I can get his cards cheaper, I don't care.

thats something I will agree with you on!:)

[Qwasian]

rex grossman didn't throw for 400+ yards...... it's not the same..... if cam newton could throw for even half of 400 yards a game for the entire season he is probably one of the best rookies to come into the league "EVER".

he's on pace to throw for over 3,000 EASILY in his rookie season.

[pico04]

Really? First off, I am pretty sure NOBODY has called Lafell a "superstar"... he stepped up big last game which means a lot.

Also, I am pretty sure the Panthers have better WR/TE than the Titans, Seahawks, Rams, Bears, Raiders, and Jags to name a few. Also, you have to look at the TEs who can both catch very well. To say that he is doing this himself is asinine.

You might want to jump of Cam's sack for a bit. He is a good player, but you obviously need something decent to work with to throw for 400+.


Lets Compare!


Panthers - Steve Smith (WR), Brandon LaFell (WR), Greg Olsen (TE), DeAngelo Williams (RB)


Titans - Kenny Britt (WR), Nate Washington (WR), Chase Stevens (TE), CJ (RB)
Seahawks - Mike Williams (WR), Sidney Rice (WR), Zach Miller (TE), Marshawn Lynch (RB)
Rams - Brandon Gibson (WR), Danny Amendola (WR), Billy Bajema (TE), Steven Jackson (RB)
Bears - Roy Williams (WR), Johnny Knox (WR), Kellen Davis (TE), Matt Forte (RB)
Raiders - Jacoby Ford (WR), Darrius Heyward-Bey (WR), Kevin Boss (TE), Darren McFadden (RB)
Jags - Mike Thomas (WR), Jason Hill (WR), Marcedes Lewis (TE), Maurice Jones-Drew (RB)


So out of the teams that you mentioned....I think Cam supporting cast is only better than Mr. Bradford's over in St. Louis....now this is only my opinion....I included RB's too for the hell of it....


The fact that Cam is doing this with an aging Former Superstar in Steve Smith and a couple of other scrubs is pretty amazing....but the fact that The Panthers organization is willing to under use 2 STUD Running Backs that have proven to be an elite pair in the past is a little sad....If they can find a balance in the Throwing/Running Game....This Team can go places real soon that no one expected them too....


Cam is a STUD....I can only imagine what other excuses Newton haters would come up with if he had actually one the first 2 games....lol!


I do a agree with Freethrowtommy in the fact that Cam is not doing this alone....But he is bringing out the best of what he got just like good ole Tom Terrific does on a weekly basis....Thats pretty amazing.


I cant wait till he does figure it out....He has POTENTIAL BEAST MODE written all over him!

[pico04]

Oh and Cam Newton is not a "Superstar"....


If it took Aaron Rodgers to do the impossible in the playoffs last year and lead My Pack to a Superbowl for him to be considered a Superstar....Cam has a long way to go!

[redsoxx11]

alot of people from boston are racist anyway, so it's obvious on your opinion. your a patriots fan and he's competiting with tom brady 2 weeks in a row on sports center, but he sucks, hilarious.

LOL way to throw the race card out there to try and sure up your argument. Did I even mention Brady? I better not let any of my racist friends here in Boston know I voted for Obama, they might come burn a cross in my yard.

[armyatc22]

Lets Compare!


Panthers - Steve Smith (WR), Brandon LaFell (WR), Greg Olsen (TE), Jermey Shockey (TE), DeAngelo Williams (RB), J Stew (RB)


Titans - Kenny Britt (WR), Nate Washington (WR), Chase Stevens (TE), CJ (RB), Ringer (RB) ----Could be the only team with more "weapons" IMO but again the 2 TE's are Vets and add a lot to his game.

Seahawks - Mike Williams (WR), Sidney Rice (WR), Zach Miller (TE), Marshawn Lynch (RB)-----Panthers WAY Better Rice isnt even playing yet

Rams - Brandon Gibson (WR), Danny Amendola (WR), Billy Bajema (TE), Steven Jackson (RB)----Again Panthers Better

Bears - Roy Williams (WR), Johnny Knox (WR), Kellen Davis (TE), Matt Forte (RB)-----Again Panthers Better IMHO

Raiders - Jacoby Ford (WR), Darrius Heyward-Bey (WR), Kevin Boss (TE), Darren McFadden (RB)-----Isnt this whole team hurt besides McFadden??? Panthers again +1

Jags - Mike Thomas (WR), Jason Hill (WR), Marcedes Lewis (TE), Maurice Jones-Drew (RB)------Again dont see these guys making bigger plays then the 6 "weapons" the Panthers have



ok my opinions are in red...remember this is what I think and thats all

By the way im far from a Panthers fan since Im a die hard Fins fan :(

[redsoxx11]

Newton throws for a bunch of empty yards, to many int and not enough TD inside the red zone. Compare him to Stafford who has 7 TD's and only 2 INT. And Newton throws almost all his yards to Smith. Eventually they will just lock him down and he will lose his main target.

Or since someone brought up Brady his passing touchdown % is 8, Newton's is only 3.6

[Idol]

Cam Newton is having 1 hell of a rookie season so far. Hopefully he can keep it up and I do think he will be one of the league's elite QB's in a few years. Hate him or love him you can't deny the simple fact that he has talent.

[armyatc22]

Newton throws for a bunch of empty yards, to many int and not enough TD inside the red zone. Compare him to Stafford who has 7 TD's and only 2 INT. And Newton throws almost all his yards to Smith. Eventually they will just lock him down and he will lose his main target.

Nothing to Compare:

Stafford 3rd Year
Newton 1st Year

[redsoxx11]

Nothing to Compare:

Stafford 3rd Year
Newton 1st Year

Doesn't matter, they both start. If he was doing better then Stafford eveyone would say how much better he is because he is a rookie. He can thrown a million yards btween the 20's if he's not converting that into TD's in he red zone, and they aren't winning then it doesn't matter how much he throws for.

[MI Rob]

Doesn't matter, they both start. If he was doing better then Stafford eveyone would say how much better he is because he is a rookie. He can thrown a million yards btween the 20's if he's not converting that into TD's in he red zone, and they aren't winning then it doesn't matter how much he throws for.

I agree here.

[Qwasian]

Doesn't matter, they both start. If he was doing better then Stafford eveyone would say how much better he is because he is a rookie. He can thrown a million yards btween the 20's if he's not converting that into TD's in he red zone, and they aren't winning then it doesn't matter how much he throws for.

it actually does, because now that they know they have a solid puzzle peice to get it done, they can build around him & create chemistry, just like the lions did stafford....... DUH..............

[redsoxx11]

it actually does, because now that they know they have a solid puzzle peice to get it done, they can build around him & create chemistry, just like the lions did stafford....... DUH..............

So when are you goning to address your racist comment? Now that I have shown you quantative numbers showing you how Newton is not so great? Or are you just being your dumbass self.. oh sorry was that racist?

[armyatc22]

Doesn't matter, they both start. If he was doing better then Stafford eveyone would say how much better he is because he is a rookie. He can thrown a million yards btween the 20's if he's not converting that into TD's in he red zone, and they aren't winning then it doesn't matter how much he throws for.

I think the point that everyones trying to get at (at least I am) is that as a Rookie and in his 1st 2 Pro games he has shown that he can throw the ball. He is a huge running threat too but he is showing that he has an arm when people were saying he doesnt. Getting the wins will come sometime but he has to learn not to target just Smith (I think he is starting to get that since he went towards Shockey and Olsen in that first drive a lot on Sunday)

[redsoxx11]

I think the point that everyones trying to get at (at least I am) is that as a Rookie and in his 1st 2 Pro games he has shown that he can throw the ball. He is a huge running threat too but he is showing that he has an arm when people were saying he doesnt. Getting the wins will come sometime but he has to learn not to target just Smith (I think he is starting to get that since he went towards Shockey and Olsen in that first drive a lot on Sunday)

I understand your point, I'm just presenting the opposite side of the argument. Honestly I don't care one way or the other. But mathmeticly his numbers are suspect, raw talent, yes he is good but this isnt' baseball where he can pitch 30 games win 15 and have a good year. Either he wins or he doesn't.

[Razorsharp79]

The Panthers running attack is all but non existent thus far this season. This puts added pressure on Cam to throw more to move the chains. Of course his TD/INT ratio is not going to be good if he is putting up 35-50 times a game as a rookie. Overall the Panthers are not a very good football team regardless of who you have on the roster. All that said, Cam Newton is the real deal. Until you have seen him in person during warmups, and live in person playing it is easy to talk bad about the guy. He has the strongest arm I have ever seen and the mobility/quickness that most RBs in the league envy.

Again, he is 6'5" 248lbs runs a 4.59 40 yd dash

Look at this picture, the man is a beast.......I expect big things from him

Cam Newton NFL Combine Workout- 40 Yard Dash Time, Vertical Jump Leap, Bench Press, Training Routine (http://www.muscleprodigy.com/cam-newton-nfl-draft-combine-workout-arcl-1404.html)

[dwest13cavs]

Newton throws for a bunch of empty yards, to many int and not enough TD inside the red zone. Compare him to Stafford who has 7 TD's and only 2 INT. And Newton throws almost all his yards to Smith. Eventually they will just lock him down and he will lose his main target.

Or since someone brought up Brady his passing touchdown % is 8, Newton's is only 3.6

Almost ALL? lol... really...?

Cam, for a rookie, has played OUT OF HIS MIND!. As an NFL QB, he has played decent. I don't see how his yards are 'EMPTY'. They were in the Packers game the WHOLE GAME and within reach vs the Cardinals. Packers D is pretty darn good too.

I believe defenses have dared him to throw and underestimated his ability to do just that. His ability to run causes him to have some easy throws to the WR. But lets not forget that he has been pretty darn accurate as a passer. His Ints were bad decisions and not really due to bad accuracy.

Its now time for the defenses to adjust to Cam. lets see how he does.

[kyle1707]

Going to be really really good....

I am shocked... I thought it was going to be Vince Young...

Did not know he had such an amazing arm....

I also believe Gabbert and Locker Dalton are the real deal also...

This could be another 2004 class.... Great for hobby

[frzg]

I watched a lot of the game, some of his passes were unbelievable. The receivers caught it in full stride where only the receiver could get his hands on it. I was a skeptic before he was drafted but after watching him this week against GB I think he could be 'special'. This isn't padding stats, he had 150 yards in 1st quarter with a 13-0 lead over Green Bay.

[pat10021839]

Is still a rookie and we will see how good he is after this season is over.

[chipmaster]

a double quarter pounder with cheese eating mother #@#@#@#@er!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[garpike]

STILLLL a losing QB.

DOH!

:)!

[champs]

Is so close! Is a freakin stud! Is Carrying this team to compete with the best teams in football. Is a National Champion, a winner and will win 6 games at least with this crap team and dumb#@#@#@ coach this year.

[Zacky1053]

Is so close! Is a freakin stud! Is Carrying this team to compete with the best teams in football. Is a National Champion, a winner and will win 6 games at least with this crap team and dumb#@#@#@ coach this year.

His QB rating is 16th in the league.

Yards only mean so much.

[MI Rob]

Yes he's still a loser.

[garpike]

Is so close! Is a freakin stud! Is Carrying this team to compete with the best teams in football. Is a National Champion, a winner and will win 6 games at least with this crap team and dumb#@#@#@ coach this year.

and is leading the 15th place team in the NFC and the 26th place team in the NFL.

:p

[armyatc22]

Being in the south I've pretty much been forced to watch all the Panthers games and yes their record is 1-4 but look at the losses:

Ari - lost by 7
GB - lost by 7
Chi - lost by 5
NO - lost by 3

Yes these are still all losses but only 1 score losses to 3 top tier teams and the Arizona game being his first NFL game and being away too didn't help.

Again ill keep saying it Carolina has tons of weapons on Offense but the Defense is killing them!!!

[jova888]

Newton team is not winning, but Carolina has great potential to build the team around him. They will get better in time.

[Divino]

Being in the south I've pretty much been forced to watch all the Panthers games and yes their record is 1-4 but look at the losses:

Ari - lost by 7
GB - lost by 7
Chi - lost by 5
NO - lost by 3

Yes these are still all losses but only 1 score losses to 3 top tier teams and the Arizona game being his first NFL game and being away too didn't help.

Again ill keep saying it Carolina has tons of weapons on Offense but the Defense is killing them!!!

I agree, but at least now with those offensive weapons in place, they can focus on building that defense. I could see Carolina pushing for the playoffs in a year or 2, with a few good moves and a great draft class or 2.

[blackbears86]

Yes he's still a loser.

talk big now mr. detroit ...when's the last time the lions were in the playoffs?

Cam will be better than stafford when all is said and done...Love to see Cam with megatron...let's see stafford make it through a whole season...we are only 5 games in...

[Zacky1053]

Cam will be better than stafford when all is said and done...Love to see Cam with megatron...let's see stafford make it through a whole season...we are only 5 games in....called it!!!!!!!!!!

What about Stafford with Steve Smith?

It's not like Cam's making superstars out of no-namers.

[blackbears86]

what did steve smith do the last three years?

[MI Rob]

talk big now mr. detroit ...when's the last time the lions were in the playoffs?

Cam will be better than stafford when all is said and done...Love to see Cam with megatron...let's see stafford make it through a whole season...we are only 5 games in...

Which team is 5-0? Newton and the Panthers are still losers. Yards are nice, but they mean nothing when you continue to lose.
The Lions won without Stafford last year? Hell they wont games with their 3rd stringer.
Which team are you a fan of?

[ShaqEatsThat]

not a good NFL quarterback.

[blackbears86]

[QUOTE=MI Rob;1744663]Which team is 5-0? Newton and the Panthers are still losers. Yards are nice, but they mean nothing when you continue to lose.
The Lions won without Stafford last year? Hell they wont games with their 3rd stringer.
Which team are you a fan of?[/QUO

Cam is the man...I'm sure everyone called peyton manning a loser when he was 3-13 his first year, or when troy aikmen won 1 game his first year. When are all the cam haters gonna wake up?

Even opposing quarterbacks are calling cam the man....

Cam has made the panthers relevant again....

mark it down...compare the stats in 5 years...Cam will be better than stafford.

And I love megatron ,but can't stand the lions after what they did to Barry Sanders.

[pico04]

[QUOTE=MI Rob;1744663]Which team is 5-0? Newton and the Panthers are still losers. Yards are nice, but they mean nothing when you continue to lose.
The Lions won without Stafford last year? Hell they wont games with their 3rd stringer.
Which team are you a fan of?[/QUO

Cam is the man...I'm sure everyone called peyton manning a loser when he was 3-13 his first year, or when troy aikmen won 1 game his first year. When are all the cam haters gonna wake up?

Even opposing quarterbacks are calling cam the man....

Cam has made the panthers relevant again....

mark it down...compare the stats in 5 years...Cam will be better than stafford.

And I love megatron ,but can't stand the lions after what they did to Barry Sanders.

What did The Lions do the Barry Sanders?

[pico04]

Oh and after its all said and done....Cam Newton will be an improved Mike Vick....But should Matt Stafford stay healthy....There is no doubt in my mind that He will be the better of the two....


Now if you said Cam will be better than Mark Sanchez or Joe Flacco I might agree with you....


The Lions are 5-0 with a aged veteran O-Line and an undersized speed running-back that are nowhere near as good as The Panthers O-Line and 2 headed RB Core....

The Lions have the better D-Line but outside of that The Panthers Defense is far more better....unfortunately they don't live up to those large contracts....or there injured....

I believe that the Panthers will be a Playoff Team next year....not because of Cam...but because they will have a healthy Defense to pair up with a stacked O-Line and two real good RBs....

Granted Steve Smith is no Megatron but he is not a scrub....

In only 5 Games its almost impossible to claim that Cam is better than Stafford....he has the potential to be better but for now I cant see that occurring.

[dylan]

better than everyone expected to be his rookie yr. whoever says he isn't are just hating on the kid. It's a passing league now, so it's easier to put up big #'s, but he's way more accurate than expected and has a very strong arm. He'll be a better than average qb in the future.

[Zacky1053]

he's way more accurate than expected and has a very strong arm.

Completion percentage of 58.2 is 23rd in the league.

And quit with the "haters" moniker. I don't "hate" anyone. Statistics are exactly that. If people can boast the good stats why can't you equally criticize the negative?

He can't and shouldn't be expected to take this team on his back so I get that his record doesn't mean he's a bad QB but just saying the hype should be tempered a bit.

Matt Schaub has put up a ton of yards and solid numbers overall over the last few years but it hasn't gotten his team anywhere. That's why his hobby values are still pretty affordable.

[FreshBreak]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4ow2Juu7nMo/SOy-S_DHj_I/AAAAAAAAILU/Cs3jd1FWw_4/s400/tebow.jpg

[sooslow]

Old thread is old....but it was fun starting at the beginning and reading through it before Cam ever joined the NFL. Half the people on here were calling him a bust pre-draft. I think it's safe to say now he has what it takes to eventually become one of the NFL's elite quarterbacks.

Which team is 5-0? Newton and the Panthers are still losers. Yards are nice, but they mean nothing when you continue to lose.
The Lions won without Stafford last year? Hell they wont games with their 3rd stringer.
Which team are you a fan of?

How's your team doing lately? LOL. I'm beginning to wonder if the Lions will even make the playoffs.

[MI Rob]

Old thread is old....but it was fun starting at the beginning and reading through it before Cam ever joined the NFL. Half the people on here were calling him a bust pre-draft. I think it's safe to say now he has what it takes to eventually become one of the NFL's elite quarterbacks.



How's your team doing lately? LOL. I'm beginning to wonder if the Lions will even make the playoffs.

Doing much better than the Panthers...

[sooslow]

Doing much better than the Panthers...

We expected this for 2011. 1st year head coach, rookie QB, new defensive and offensive coordinators, no training camps to even build some sort of chemistry...All realistic Panther's fans predicted a 4-12, 5-11 game season.
The lions on the other hand are falling apart.

The lions first 5 games-- 5-0
The Lions last 6 games--2-4

So by your logic, is Stafford not a good QB because he is no longer "winning games"?

[armyatc22]

I do agree with some points from everyone...

1st off I love going back and reading all the comments when this thread started last year (ok I was bored at work already, no aircraft this early)

Yes in the NFL the head office is looking for Wins not Losses this is true BUT this isnt like College where 1 loss and your on the ropes the rest of the season trying to go for the Champ. A few losses here and there wont hurt anything.

Cam's Stats were impressive for his first ever game even though they lost the game. Unless one of the 4 QB's tonight go off (Brady has the best chance) Cam will be the best QB of the week even though he lost.

The best thing that came out of this is that Cam now has that inital game out of the way and can prepare himself for his first BIG game vs the defending and HOT as hell Packers. He might have thrown for over 400 yards this week but its about a 5% chance that he will do it again next week.

He did feel a few sacks and hard tackles this week but hopefully he will be ready for a much harder and stronger D next week...

Cam and Steve Smith already have a great connection and he also has other targets too in Olsen, Shocky, NaaNee, and Lafell. You also cant forget about Williams and J Stew in the backfield. Shoot now that I look at it he has a TON of weapons!!!

My Predictions for the rest of the year:
GB-L
Jac-W
Chi-L
NO-L
ATL-L
WAS-W
MIN-W
TEN-W
DET-L
IND-W
TB-W
ATL-W
HOU-L
TB-L
NO-L

Also a few of the Losses will be by a TD or less

I think a 6-9 lossing Record will make the Front office happy and also beable to draft a decent D player in the first round of the next draft

Looking back at my post from a week ago.....

1st Bold---Called it :)

2nd Bold---Way off on that one lol

I still stand by this record except I might change a game or 2 like a win vs CHI

3rd Bold---both games so far they have lost by a TD


Thoughts?

So a friendly bump ;)

I love going bak a reading threads like this

If the Panthers lose today they will be 6-9 ;)

[Army19K]

talk big now mr. detroit ...when's the last time the lions were in the playoffs?

Cam will be better than stafford when all is said and done...Love to see Cam with megatron...let's see stafford make it through a whole season...we are only 5 games in...

Stafford 16 GP 5038 yds 41 TDs 16 Ints, oh look he made it the whole season, got the Lions to the playoffs, so can we stop with the "if he makes it a whole season" crap now?????

[ninjacookies]

from 2-14 to 6-9 and COMPETITIVE against a lot of huge teams down to the wire. I'd say that's a pretty darn good showing by Cam.

[blackbears86]

Stafford 16 GP 5038 yds 41 TDs 16 Ints, oh look he made it the whole season, got the Lions to the playoffs, so can we stop with the "if he makes it a whole season" crap now?????

surprise!!! The doughboy made it through a whole year without an injury!!!!!:D:D

....good luck to the lions in the playoffs.

Watch out for Carolina in three years........:)!

[blackbears86]

from 2-14 to 6-9 and COMPETITIVE against a lot of huge teams down to the wire. I'd say that's a pretty darn good showing by Cam.

ROY!!!!! great rookie class!

[Army19K]

surprise!!! The doughboy made it through a whole year without an injury!!!!!:D:D

....good luck to the lions in the playoffs.

Watch out for Carolina in three years........:)!

If Carolina drafts right, might only be two years

[benshobbies]

Cam Newton is an overrated quarterback who will never make it in the NFL!

(Sounds familiar, right?!)

[purejd86p]

It was amazing going from the start of this thread to the end. So many haters just wow Cam Newton sucks and has no shot at ever doing anything in the NFL. LMFAO

[Mrpokey]

Cam Newton will be AVERAGE over the course of his career, no different then Alex Smith, Trent Dilfer, Rex Grossman, Joe Flacco, Mark Sanchez, etc. Yes he threw for a lot of yards, but yards don't win games. I think he'll just be Byron Leftwich, look great for about a year, then turn average at best.

[armyatc22]

Cam Newton will be AVERAGE over the course of his career, no different then Alex Smith, Trent Dilfer, Rex Grossman, Joe Flacco, Mark Sanchez, etc. Yes he threw for a lot of yards, but yards don't win games. I think he'll just be Byron Leftwich, look great for about a year, then turn average at best.

i wouldnt mind being an average qB with these under my belt:

-Dilfer and Leftwitch BOTH have Super Bowl Rings
-Flacco hasnt missed the playoffs yet in his 4 years in the league
-This is Sanchez's 1st year missing the playoffs and the 2 other years he
lead them to the Conf Champ Game
-Grossman has been to a Super Bowl as a starter
-Smith really hasnt done anything yet and this year might change that

Could any of these QB's Pass and Run? Not as good as Cam...

Like everyone is saying in a few years with a little bit of good drafting and a few nice free agent pickups this team will be in the hunt too

[ninjacookies]

lol don't even bother replying. Seems like the consensus is you either love Cam or you hate him. Naysayers will always point to a mediocre future, while the believers will point to what he's already done that nobody else has.

Can't wait to bump this thread the same time next year and see what the real verdict is :)

[56LightsOut56]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4ow2Juu7nMo/SOy-S_DHj_I/AAAAAAAAILU/Cs3jd1FWw_4/s400/tebow.jpg

Playoffs.............

[HBMC]

Cam is someone I plan on making lots of bread from.

[Cubs_rock21]

Wow i read through the first few pages...I can honestly say the quote of the thread was, idk who said it but

"Jimmy Clausen will be a better pro than Cam Newton, Mark it down" Hopefully no one hired that member as a scout lol

[freethrowtommy]

Wow i read through the first few pages...I can honestly say the quote of the thread was, idk who said it but

"Jimmy Clausen will be a better pro than Cam Newton, Mark it down" Hopefully no one hired that member as a scout lol

That would be me... :(

I said it before the season started. To be fair, Jimmy still has a shot.

[Cubs_rock21]

That would be me... :(

I said it before the season started. To be fair, Jimmy still has a shot.

lol #@#@#@#@ happens, I think we've all been proven wrong in the sports world at one point....No one can honestly say they've always been right about predicting players pro careers!

[HBMC]

That would be me... :(

I said it before the season started. To be fair, Jimmy still has a shot.

If Brady Quinn still has a job, then Jimmy Clausen certainly still deserves a shot.