UFC 202 McGregor vs Diaz 2

[tattooelement]

So, who's looking forward to this one?

I think McGregor wins this time.

Looking forward to Rumble's fight as well. Think he will KO Glover in the 1st.

[CC_123]

Im hoping that Diaz knocks McGregor out this time. Ive been a big Diaz fan for a very long time. I used to like Conor but honestly, while he does say some funny and entertaining stuff, he has grown a little stale on me. He is coming off a loss to Diaz and he is acting like he won that last one. Diaz is already in McGregors head which makes me think Diaz wins again

[jbrandonw]

Should be a decent card. A lot of up and comers fighting. I want Diaz to win. I was beginning to believe McGregor would win this time until I saw how easily Nate got him riled up. He's clearly in his head, so I say nate will win in the 3rd.

[cowboyzqna]

Looking foward to it. Said I wouldn't pay for it but I changed my mind. Nate late in the second or early in the third via strikes.

Connor can't run for 25 minutes... no amount of training is going to make 7 minutes turn into 25 minutes. If Nate makes it through of the first three minutes... Connor is toast.


Should be a fun card.

[Pot Roast]

If Connor loses to Nate, UFC cannot get GSP/Jones back fast enough.

[jbrandonw]

If Connor loses to Nate, UFC cannot get GSP/Jones back fast enough.

The Jones thing is crazy. Their saying he didn't take what he originally failed for twice? So basically usada cost him about 10 million.

I think the gsp thing will be about like the Brock return. One big fight. Id like it to be Nate or Nick.

[Pot Roast]

The Jones thing is crazy. Their saying he didn't take what he originally failed for twice? So basically usada cost him about 10 million.

I think the gsp thing will be about like the Brock return. One big fight. Id like it to be Nate or Nick.

GSP loves gold, I think he comes back for a title. They can have him fight me, and in Canda I'll fill 80,000 seats.LOL

[tattooelement]

Should be a decent card. A lot of up and comers fighting. I want Diaz to win. I was beginning to believe McGregor would win this time until I saw how easily Nate got him riled up. He's clearly in his head, so I say nate will win in the 3rd.

I get what you're saying.

I don't think Diaz is in his head though.

This version of McGregor, driven/motivated to prove he is the best, reminds me of the Aldo fight.

He was too confident/cocky the last fight. Obviously, he is taking it seriously this time around.

[mma138]

I sooooooooooo hope he gets choked out again

[glen87]

there are quite a few tickets left for this, prices were even cut earlier.

[tattooelement]

there are quite a few tickets left for this, prices were even cut earlier.

I saw that.

Apparently UFC pulled a Topps move. They were selling tickets for what resellers typically sell them for. Thus, resellers didn't buy them, and they were stuck with excess tickets.

[HP7163]

This version of McGregor, driven/motivated to prove he is the best, reminds me of the Aldo fight.

He was too confident/cocky the last fight. Obviously, he is taking it seriously this time around.

I partially agree with you. I think Diaz was in McGregor's head along with all the "Hollywood" bs lifestyle Conner was living. Hopefully he's snapped out of it and gets his confidence/focus back.

I do agree with poster above with his act getting a bit stale. He needs a big time fight to show he's got heart.

He lost but acted like it was because of other things. It's like a self entitled elitist who gets beat by the trash man and is so devastated wonders how he got beat then makes excuses to a degree contemplates suicide. Wait think someone already pulled that card? lol

I like Diaz.. crazy dude. this could go either way in my mind.

[oldgoldy97]

I think Diaz wins in the third.

[AOClubs]

Nate is a nightmare matchup for Conor...

[gamer4l1fe]

Nate is a nightmare matchup for Conor...

The only way I can see Conor able to beat Nate is using a Mayweather approach to the fight. He needs to really be on his horse bobbing and moving and try to make it a points fight. Nate is just bigger and can take Conor's punches so if he engages Nate in a slugfest again most likely your going to see the same outcome from the first fight.

[AOClubs]

Cody Garbrandt is impressive but he won't touch Dominick Cruz

[Dolphan44]

I really like Garbrandt. I don't think he's well rounded enough but Id love to see him knock out Cruz.

[Prospectorsadvantage]

Let's go Mcgregor.

Nate Diaz is a clown.

[VeedonFleece]

Let's go Diaz.

Conor McGregor is a clown.

(Mimicry aside, I've had a bet on Diaz, and to win by submission again. Would never dismiss any fighter out of hand, especially one of McGregor's ability, but I don't see how he avenges the loss tbh.)

[No 1]

Is it almost time for the Diaz fight? Wish i could watch it

[Clarka3]

Is it almost time for the Diaz fight? Wish i could watch it

stream it, bro. i use vipbox.tv


anyway, i forgot about this PPV so I missed everything up until the Cerrone fight that just started. Cerrone looking good through 1.

Story looks out of it.

[Clarka3]

annnnd down goes Story. Cerrone dominated the entire fight aside from the one moment where he got taken down.

[AOClubs]

annnnd down goes Story. Cerrone dominated the entire fight aside from the one moment where he got taken down.

COWBOYYYYYYYYYY, that finishing combo was straight out of Street Fighter 2

[Prospectorsadvantage]

COWBOYYYYYYYYYY, that finishing combo was straight out of Street Fighter 2

Cowboy is so good but never quite good enough. The Uriah Faber of 155

[Clarka3]

i got Rumble Johnson in this fight. but that's only because i don't know much about Texiera.

[jbrandonw]

stream it, bro. i use vipbox.tv


anyway, i forgot about this PPV so I missed everything up until the Cerrone fight that just started. Cerrone looking good through 1.

Story looks out of it.

Yea my streams have been hit or miss tonight, but I think I finally found a good one. Cerrone has a chance at a belt now that it's not rds anymore.

[Clarka3]

my streams just went down. what to other people use?

[Clarka3]

found a new stream just in time to see the replay of the rumble knockout.

[Clarka3]

am i mistaken, or was there no women's fight on the main card this time?

[Prospectorsadvantage]

am i mistaken, or was there no women's fight on the main card this time?



Only on undercard on fs1

[Clarka3]

it's go time!


and bummer, it's always nice to see the women get a slot on the main card.

[Clarka3]

i think diaz does even better this time now that he's had a full camp.

[gojacks]

Connor McGregor is the man.

[Clarka3]

Conor fading in the 2nd half of round 2.

[gojacks]

Nice little comeback right there by Diaz

[Clarka3]

i will say, if McGregor jumped on Diaz after that third knockdown, he might ahve ended the fight. he's being tentative because Diaz has better ground game.

[gojacks]

UFC really needs McGregor to win tonight.

[gojacks]

Heck of a fight so far

[gojacks]

Diaz slowly taking over

[gojacks]

29-28 Diaz

[Clarka3]

McGregor doesn't have a style that goes 5 rounds. he's finished stamina-wise. if he doesn't get a KO early in the next round, Diaz is going to win.

[Clarka3]

round 1 went for McGregor, 3 to Diaz. 2 is a tossup so far.

[gojacks]

McGregor doesn't have a style that goes 5 rounds. he's finished stamina-wise. if he doesn't get a KO early in the next round, Diaz is going to win.

Yeah he needs to make something happen really quick.

[gojacks]

Would be really bad for the sport to lose Jon Jones and the dominance of McGregor

[gojacks]

Man this is insane

[gojacks]

39-37 McGregor

[Clarka3]

round 4 all the way to mcG

[Clarka3]

Diaz's body always seems to betray him. his last fight the blood started covering his eyes too.

[Clockwork]

who won the fight? or is it still going?

[gojacks]

Diaz's body always seems to betray him. his last fight the blood started covering his eyes too.

He's a mess right now.

[gojacks]

who won the fight? or is it still going?

Still going on. About even

[gojacks]

Maybe a slight lead to McGregor

[Clockwork]

It sounds like a much better fight compared to the last one.

[gojacks]

It sounds like a much better fight compared to the last one.

Yeah it's been crazy so far!

[Clarka3]

i don't know that that takedown is enough to give it to diaz.

round 2 i think was more connor.

[TASS]

It could very well be 48-47 for Diaz just because of that late takedown.

A killer fight regardless of who wins.

[gojacks]

McGregor wins it.

[Clarka3]

It sounds like a much better fight compared to the last one.

the last one wasn't a terrible fight by any means. it was balls to the wall the entire time. this one was a slugfest.

[gojacks]

i don't know that that takedown is enough to give it to diaz.

round 2 i think was more connor.

Agreed.

[Clarka3]

the best thing for UFC is a MCG win so they can have a rubber match.

[gojacks]

Exactly. So much money to be made

[Clarka3]

yup. rubber match. brawl for it all coming up.


though, having seen them at the end of the fight. they are going to have to really act hard to get the same hype. they were all buddy buddy afterward

[TASS]

the best thing for UFC is a MCG win so they can have a rubber match.

Yup this sets up a legitimate Fight #3!!

[Cavaliercards]

Conor's multiple times of putting Diaz on his butt were the clear difference I think.

[gojacks]

48-47,47-47,48-47 McGregor in majority decision

[gojacks]

Conor's multiple times of putting Diaz on his butt were the clear difference I think.

Yeah those moments where he teed off on Diaz are what got it for him.

[Clockwork]

Sweet so now its even with McGregor winning. Should be an interesting round 3 fight in a year.

[gojacks]

Sweet so now its even with McGregor winning. Should be an interesting round 3 fight in a year.

Yup. Fingers crossed for a tie breaker

[VeedonFleece]

Right decision imo. I shouldve cleaned up but happy to get out without a loss.

[Prospectorsadvantage]

Other than a few flashes Diaz was per usual in his career. Take a lot of punishment throw a flurry of shots repeat. He has shown this for most of his career.

[Wolves4Life]

Conor saying "the king is back" after barely winning and needing a favorable judges score to do it.

[wadedaniel84]

This fight was literally won by those leg kicks.

[VeedonFleece]

Conor saying "the king is back" after barely winning and needing a favorable judges score to do it.

Doesnt matter how you win. At least his face is intact, unlike Diaz.

[gojacks]

Overall a great night for the sport. I really hope the UFC can keep this momentum rolling.

[Cavaliercards]

Doesnt matter how you win. At least his face is intact, unlike Diaz.

Yes indeed.

[tattooelement]

Great fight. I had it 3-2 for McGregor as well.

Wasn't expecting a 5 round fight though.

Can't remember which round McGregor stopped with the kicks, but found out why after the fight. Broken foot.

And Rumble. Wow. Called a 1st rd KO, but didn't expect it so quickly. Man legitimately has the most devastating right hand in the UFC.

[ThaReal1]

Majority decision...meh. my lasting image will be McGregor running rounds 3-5 and Diaz pointing and mocking and flipping him off for it. Conor ran to a win.

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[Prospectorsadvantage]

Conor saying "the king is back" after barely winning and needing a favorable judges score to do it.

Curious what fight you were watching. Conor used the dos anjos game plan against Nate and it worked perfectly.

Also Conor broke his foot pretty early on. Think on the first check Nate did late
In first round.

[xxmudgexx]

Curious what fight you were watching. Conor used the dos anjos game plan against Nate and it worked perfectly.

Also Conor broke his foot pretty early on. Think on the first check Nate did late
In first round.

Connor broke his foot?

[CC_123]

I thought Diaz should've won that fight.

I had Diaz winning rounds 2, 3, and 5. The reason I had him winning 2 was because even after getting knocked down, he showed more activity and connected at a higher rate (at least to the eye). What I saw was McGregor continuously running from Diaz to try and protect his "lead" which I hate seeing. That right there is a cowards move, especially after all the talking beforehand (Diaz agreed with the in-match middle finger). I think Diaz should've got the W, but the good thing about him not getting it? We get a round 3 between the two of them.

Also, McGregor still hasn't been able to finish Diaz off (unlike Diaz in bout 1) and you could see that McGregor wanted nothing to do with the ground game on his two knock downs where Diaz wanted to bait him in. Next bout I think we will see Diaz come out with an even stronger takedown performance and get McGregor where he isn't comfortable.

About the other fights, Cerrone looked great and landed such a sick combo to end it! Perry also looked strong out there. We have all known Johnson has ridiculous knock out power. Cormier is going to get smoked by Johnson, because honestly, Cormier just isn't very good. All he wants to do is take you down and lay on you for 3-5 rounds (Like against Silva) which is boring. When he is forced to stand (like against Jones) he is ridiculously weak. Looking forward to Johnson getting the strap and a potential Jones/Johnson matchup.

Overall, very very solid night of fights. I enjoyed them all!

[Prospectorsadvantage]

Connor broke his foot?

Yes.


Also no slight on Nick, but there's a reason he is where he is in his career (prior to Conor). He's a grinder but nothing special.

Also Conor's defense on takedowns was great.

[Cavaliercards]

Yes.


Also no slight on Nick, but there's a reason he is where he is in his career (prior to Conor). He's a grinder but nothing special.

Also Conor's defense on takedowns was great.

Agree, Conor did not allow himself to go down until the very very end. Even then I think it was too late, but it probably won Diaz the round with the 47-47 judge.

[CC_123]

Yes.


Also no slight on Nick, but there's a reason he is where he is in his career (prior to Conor). He's a grinder but nothing special.

Also Conor's defense on takedowns was great.

Diaz has some solid W's under his belt beating McGregor, Cerrone, Michael Johnson (which is one of his best performances of his career IMO). The thing that makes Diaz so great is that he has one of the best jaws in the UFC. Out of 11 losses, 9 have come by Decision. So he is either going to finish you or make you earn the W which is respectable. He never backs down and will fight anyone, anywhere. He has been one of my favorite fighters since I started watching the UFC back in 2009

[Cavaliercards]

I am not Pro or Anti Diaz in non-McGregor fights, but I appreciated how classy both fighters were at the end.

They both got a new respect for each other in that fight.

[Clarka3]

I thought Diaz should've won that fight.

I had Diaz winning rounds 2, 3, and 5. The reason I had him winning 2 was because even after getting knocked down, he showed more activity and connected at a higher rate (at least to the eye). What I saw was McGregor continuously running from Diaz to try and protect his "lead" which I hate seeing. That right there is a cowards move, especially after all the talking beforehand (Diaz agreed with the in-match middle finger). I think Diaz should've got the W, but the good thing about him not getting it? We get a round 3 between the two of them.

Also, McGregor still hasn't been able to finish Diaz off (unlike Diaz in bout 1) and you could see that McGregor wanted nothing to do with the ground game on his two knock downs where Diaz wanted to bait him in. Next bout I think we will see Diaz come out with an even stronger takedown performance and get McGregor where he isn't comfortable.

About the other fights, Cerrone looked great and landed such a sick combo to end it! Perry also looked strong out there. We have all known Johnson has ridiculous knock out power. Cormier is going to get smoked by Johnson, because honestly, Cormier just isn't very good. All he wants to do is take you down and lay on you for 3-5 rounds (Like against Silva) which is boring. When he is forced to stand (like against Jones) he is ridiculously weak. Looking forward to Johnson getting the strap and a potential Jones/Johnson matchup.

Overall, very very solid night of fights. I enjoyed them all!



Round 2 was a tossup. i think Diaz finished round 2 better than McG, but McG held court for more of the round.

i think the judges scored it correctly, though he should have been warned for walking away repeatedly.

[wadedaniel84]

Doesnt matter how you win. At least his face is intact, unlike Diaz.


That's irrelevant. Diaz's face is always busted up.

[Prospectorsadvantage]

Diaz has some solid W's under his belt beating McGregor, Cerrone, Michael Johnson (which is one of his best performances of his career IMO). The thing that makes Diaz so great is that he has one of the best jaws in the UFC. Out of 11 losses, 9 have come by Decision. So he is either going to finish you or make you earn the W which is respectable. He never backs down and will fight anyone, anywhere. He has been one of my favorite fighters since I started watching the UFC back in 2009

Diaz got knocked down 3 times in first two rounds. Glenn Trowbridge, who is one of the worst UFC judges gave Nate a 10-8 round in the third which is laughable.

Nate is a good fighter, but there's a reason Dana never pushed him hard. He's generally a middle of the road type of guy that people like because he can absorb punishment. Fun to watch.

[jbrandonw]

Doesnt matter how you win. At least his face is intact, unlike Diaz.

The Diaz brothers faces are never intact after a fight. They've boxed most of their lives and have alot of scar tissue built up which causes them to bleed easily.

[CC_123]

Diaz got knocked down 3 times in first two rounds. Glenn Trowbridge, who is one of the worst UFC judges gave Nate a 10-8 round in the third which is laughable.

Nate is a good fighter, but there's a reason Dana never pushed him hard. He's generally a middle of the road type of guy that people like because he can absorb punishment. Fun to watch.

I saw the scorecard, I am just saying from my point of view. I personally don't care if someone gets knocked down if they get right back up and then outperform the other fighter the rest of the round (again, in my opinion Diaz did). If someone goes down and gets right back up, that is honestly just like any other punch because it didn't do a whole lot of damage in the end. Im not mad, just saying from my point. And like I said, the good thing about McGregor winning is we get to see a 3rd fight between these two.

[jbrandonw]

Nates gonna step away for a while and let his brother have another chance on top until McGregor is ready for number 3.

[wadedaniel84]

Yes.


Also no slight on Nick, but there's a reason he is where he is in his career (prior to Conor). He's a grinder but nothing special.

Also Conor's defense on takedowns was great.


If he's nothing special than why is mcgregor so touted? Conor won the fight... Yes. On leg kicks and a few knockdowns. But in absolutely NO way was he dominant, at all.

[CC_123]

Nates gonna step away for a while and let his brother have another chance on top until McGregor is ready for number 3.

Nate wants to go smoke a little and kick back! Especially since he has to wait for McGregor's foot to heel. The UFC would be stupid to have Diaz fight in between this fight and the next Diaz/McGregor fight in the case that if Diaz loses, it could take some of the hype out of it (unlikely, but still)

[shayscards79]

I had McGregor winning 1,2 and 4 as well.

But it was funny watching him gas... pulling a DaDa 5000 and Kimbo. Walking away with his hands on his hips. Not a good look

[Prospectorsadvantage]

Nate wants to go smoke a little and kick back! Especially since he has to wait for McGregor's foot to heel. The UFC would be stupid to have Diaz fight in between this fight and the next Diaz/McGregor fight in the case that if Diaz loses, it could take some of the hype out of it (unlikely, but still)

Diaz clearly stated he's done unless it's mcgregor.

Diaz has gotten a taste of making big money so I believe him. Hate mcgregor but he sells ppvs and makes his opponents money.

[shayscards79]

Also, I still think Crumble Johnson is overrated. Cormier isn't going to lose to him. Glover canned it up hard tonight.

[ThaReal1]

The dude ran...he outlasted by running at the end. This is not boxing, pointing at scorecards doesn't do it for me in MMA. Leave that for Mayweather

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[shayscards79]

I'm glad I left Dublin on Thursday, no telling how rabid those people are going to be for the "mother#@#@#@#@ing king" lol

[Prospectorsadvantage]

Also, I still think Crumble Johnson is overrated. Cormier isn't going to lose to him. Glover canned it up hard tonight.

Hoping Rumble beats DC. Should be a great fight. I was at the first one cage side and thought DC was done with the bombs rumble landed.

[CC_123]

Also, I still think Crumble Johnson is overrated. Cormier isn't going to lose to him. Glover canned it up hard tonight.

I personally just don't think Cormier is very good. I know he beat him the first time around but Johnson is better than he was a year ago. Cormier wins if it gets to the ground. I fully expect Johnson to work hard on his takedown defense though. If it is a standing up kind of fight, Johnson wins.

[CC_123]

Nate Diaz outlanded McGregor 166-164 in significant strikes. Thats a perfect example of how close this fight was

[Prospectorsadvantage]

Nate Diaz outlanded McGregor 166-164 in significant strikes. Thats a perfect example of how close this fight was

Nate Diaz got dropped 3 times. Dana white trying real hard not to call Trowbridge out for his joke of a card.

Actually don't know how you give round 3 a 10-8 but not round 2.

[CC_123]

Nate Diaz got dropped 3 times. Dana white trying real hard not to call Trowbridge out for his joke of a card.

Actually don't know how you give round 3 a 10-8 but not round 2.

I consider Diaz getting dropped twice. The third one was more so Diaz falling to the ground on his own and trying to get McGregor to follow suit. Even so, Diaz got up right away after the knockdowns like the didn't even affect him, and especially in round 2, Diaz came back after the knockdown and outperformed McGregor the rest of the way (hence the 10-9 versus 10-8). It was a 48-47 type of fight and really could've gone either way, especially with McGregor running away and ducking Diaz late in the fight.

[cowboyzqna]

What a fight! Diaz Won the fight on significant strikes and ring control. Conner ran... and Nate "pointed" that out. Awesome.

As soon as it went to the judges you knew Connor would get the nod.

Nothing but respect for both of them. Soon as you hear Pac and see Nate start walking to the cage... you know you are in for something special.

Credit to Mcgregor for getting to the finish. It looked like he wanted out of there at times. But he landed some mean shots in the storm.


Great card. I feel like we all got our monies worth on this one. I didn't pay for 200... and I'm happy I passed. This one was well worth it!

[Prospectorsadvantage]

Just watched the post fight scrums. Nate looks like he was involved in a car accident, Connor doesn't look like he was in a fight.

Nate said I don't wanna make excuses but I was injured. Interesting.

Great fight, good result will be interesting to see if they line 3 up.

[CC_123]

McGregor said if they are going to do a 3rd fight, Diaz has to go down to 155

[Prospectorsadvantage]

I consider Diaz getting dropped twice. The third one was more so Diaz falling to the ground on his own and trying to get McGregor to follow suit. Even so, Diaz got up right away after the knockdowns like the didn't even affect him, and especially in round 2, Diaz came back after the knockdown and outperformed Diaz the rest of the way (hence the 10-9 versus 10-8). It was a 48-47 type of fight and really could've gone either way, especially with McGregor running away and ducking Diaz late in the fight.

I don't see how slipping and getting out of situations where he could get caught any different than Nate falling down trying to get him to the ground because he was hurt. Or clinching on the cage to regain his senses from big shots. It's part of the fight game. Strategy plays a role, that's why Tristar and Winklejon/Jackson guys do so well. Coaching and a game plan.

[Prospectorsadvantage]

Sorry guys in usual Nate Diaz fashion he just screwed it up. Smoked weed in a post fight scrum in front of media. Suspension coming.


Nate saying CBD vape pen. So there's still hope.

Listening to Nate talk I worry he is completely gone. Guy is so punch drunk it's scary.

[bmc398]

McGregor said if they are going to do a 3rd fight, Diaz has to go down to 155

Diaz is a 155er. He wouldn't be going "down" for it. Sure, Diaz might weigh a few more pounds than Conor walking around, but not by much. Diaz is just longer and built differently. I don't think it changes that much. Conor has to suck 15 pounds and Nate like 25. Not that huge a deal for guys who have been there and done that before.

[chansen10]

Man Diaz can take a hit.. Not sure he knew where he was after the second round but he kept coming.. Props to McGregor though I thought he was going to be done in that third round, he looked completely gassed... Not sure many people in 155 would have lasted past the first round.. McGregor also had great defense all night didn't let Diaz take him to the ground until the last seconds of round 5

[Goldenflyer]

Diaz is a 155er. He wouldn't be going "down" for it. Sure, Diaz might weigh a few more pounds than Conor walking around, but not by much. Diaz is just longer and built differently. I don't think it changes that much. Conor has to suck 15 pounds and Nate like 25. Not that huge a deal for guys who have been there and done that before.

25 pounds is alot of waterweight. I was a statechamp in PA for wrestling. with only 24 hours to recover from that weigh in. hes gonna be a lot weaker than now. and connor knows that . diaz will feel super sloshy trying to rehydrate that quick

[CC_123]

Diaz is a 155er. He wouldn't be going "down" for it. Sure, Diaz might weigh a few more pounds than Conor walking around, but not by much. Diaz is just longer and built differently. I don't think it changes that much. Conor has to suck 15 pounds and Nate like 25. Not that huge a deal for guys who have been there and done that before.

Diaz has fought a lot of his career at 170, especially lately. Can he cut down to 155? Of course, but it might take a toll on his power. There is a reason McGregor doesn't want to fight at 170 again and that's because he knows Diaz is stronger and much bigger than him at that size. Diaz dropping to 155 is a big cut, and while he has done that many times before, it isn't necessarily a good thing to do for this fight. Diaz has had trouble in the past cutting to 155. 170 is a more natural weight class for him due to his size and troubles cutting the weight. So 155 would be a big change since he hasnt fought a lot in that class since around 2010 with a few bouts in between then and now.

[Clarka3]

Diaz got knocked down 3 times in first two rounds. Glenn Trowbridge, who is one of the worst UFC judges gave Nate a 10-8 round in the third which is laughable.

Nate is a good fighter, but there's a reason Dana never pushed him hard. He's generally a middle of the road type of guy that people like because he can absorb punishment. Fun to watch.

the judge scored that round right. they are SUPPOSED to score fights round by round. Now, we've all seen fights where that hasn't always been the case, but a round by round score definitely should have been a 10-8 for Diaz. He utterly dominated round 3.

[ensbergcollecto]

nate and nick both flip off everyone they fight as an attempt to get in their heads. the fact that nate flipped him off is in no way a commentary on the fight.

all the nate fans fail to account for the fact that conner was moving up 2 weight classes for this fight.

both fighters deserve a lot of credit

[Prospectorsadvantage]

the judge scored that round right. they are SUPPOSED to score fights round by round. Now, we've all seen fights where that hasn't always been the case, but a round by round score definitely should have been a 10-8 for Diaz. He utterly dominated round 3.

The first round was just as dominate for Conor. The second round, Nate had a late flurry but got knocked down 2x. Trowbridge is a horrible ref he's been around for a long time and I think most people can agree on that point Diaz fan or not.

[Prospectorsadvantage]

nate and nick both flip off everyone they fight as an attempt to get in their heads. the fact that nate flipped him off is in no way a commentary on the fight.

all the nate fans fail to account for the fact that conner was moving up 2 weight classes for this fight.

both fighters deserve a lot of credit

Agreed. The flip off usually means they know they are losing and trying to get someone to get emotional. It is like when a guy gets clocked and shakes his head that it didn't hurt when anyone else watching can see the damage.

[Armand]

If Conor had rushed in and finished Nate off after the knockdown(s) then this would have been over earlier imo. But he let him stand up each time. In hindsight prob a mistake.
Diaz said himself in post fight interview "He should have finished me off".
And not one to make excuses "I came in with an injury"

[ensbergcollecto]

If Conor had rushed in and finished Nate off after the knockdown(s) then this would have been over earlier imo. But he let him stand up each time. In hindsight prob a mistake.
Diaz said himself in post fight interview "He should have finished me off".
And not one to make excuses "I came in with an injury"

i love his fights but his conferences drive me crazy.

lists off all of his injuries, makes sure everyone knows he has them on video, and then says "im not making excuses"

[CC_123]

If Conor had rushed in and finished Nate off after the knockdown(s) then this would have been over earlier imo. But he let him stand up each time. In hindsight prob a mistake.
Diaz said himself in post fight interview "He should have finished me off".
And not one to make excuses "I came in with an injury"

Diaz wasn't hurt nearly bad enough on any of those knockdowns for Conor to feel confident rushing in. Diaz would've likely recovered on all of them and the McGregor is where he didn't want to be, which is on the ground.

[gamer4l1fe]

Was a pretty good fight overall. I scored it 48-47 for Diaz, but you can't really complain either way both guys landed plenty and 2,4, and 5 were really coin flip rounds. Really think Nate should've gotten more credit for octagon control by being the aggressor in the judges eyes but obviously he didn't. Conor spent a good healthy portion of 3-5 on his bicycle.

[Pot Roast]

Diaz has fought a lot of his career at 170, especially lately. Can he cut down to 155? Of course, but it might take a toll on his power. There is a reason McGregor doesn't want to fight at 170 again and that's because he knows Diaz is stronger and much bigger than him at that size. Diaz dropping to 155 is a big cut, and while he has done that many times before, it isn't necessarily a good thing to do for this fight. Diaz has had trouble in the past cutting to 155. 170 is a more natural weight class for him due to his size and troubles cutting the weight. So 155 would be a big change since he hasnt fought a lot in that class since around 2010 with a few bouts in between then and now.

Diaz has had more fights at 155 then 170 since 2010. 170 may be his natural weight class, but he won't last long against top fighters.

Since 2010:

170: 1-3 (only win connor, got rag dolled by real ww's Rory/DHK)
155: 7-3

Nate can make 155 just fine, and is most likely a fight away from fighting for the belt. UFC would love to have Nate get gold at 155 for the trilogy fight.

[CC_123]

Diaz has had more fights at 155 then 170 since 2010. 170 may be his natural weight class, but he won't last long against top fighters.

Since 2010:

170: 1-3 (only win connor, got rag dolled by real ww's Rory/DHK)
155: 7-3

Nate can make 155 just fine, and is most likely a fight away from fighting for the belt. UFC would love to have Nate get gold at 155 for the trilogy fight.

I said recently he has been performing at 170. Im not saying he can't and won't cut down to 155 because he can and will but he isn't as strong at 155 as he is 170. He's still solid and will have a great shot to top McGregor at 155, especially if he takes him down earlier in the match up. 155 is just a tough cut for Diaz because of his natural size which is why he said he prefers 170 over 155. He's missed weight at 155 before and it wouldn't surprise me if he does again.

Overall in Diaz career he is 3-3 (all of which have been since 2010) at 170, which isn't horrible but obviously isn't great. I still think he is more comfortable at that weight and he is a completely different and better fighter than he was when he fought McDonald and DHK in 2011

[Nyfancam01]

diaz won this fight...

[Pot Roast]

I said recently he has been performing at 170. Im not saying he can't and won't cut down to 155 because he can and will but he isn't as strong at 155 as he is 170. He's still solid and will have a great shot to top McGregor at 155, especially if he takes him down earlier in the match up. 155 is just a tough cut for Diaz because of his natural size which is why he said he prefers 170 over 155. He's missed weight at 155 before and it wouldn't surprise me if he does again.

Overall in Diaz career he is 3-3 at 170, which isn't horrible but obviously isn't great. I still think he is more comfortable at that weight and he is a completely different and better fighter than he was when he fought McDonald and DHK in 2011

It's not good when you beat 145/155 at 170 as your only UFC win. DHK/Rory are in the top ten and plenty of strong grapplers in the Top 10. I would like to see Diaz vs. Cerrone 2 at WW though. I think at 155 if he can get a titleshot he would be wearing gold.

[CC_123]

It's not good when you beat 145/155 at 170 as your only UFC win. DHK/Rory are in the top ten and plenty of strong grapplers in the Top 10. I would like to see Diaz vs. Cerrone 2 at WW though. I think at 155 if he can get a titleshot he would be wearing gold.

Again, Nate is 3-3 at 170 for his career in the UFC (since 2010). I would also like to see Diaz fight Rory or DHK again. I think Diaz is a completely different fight now then he was in 2011 when he fought them. I'd also enjoy a Diaz/Cerrone II. Big fan of both. I think that'd be entertaining.

[Panthersfans]

I thought the judges got this one right. It was super close and one of the best fights I've ever seen as a long time fan. Strikes were very very close, but Connor did more damage and I thought the knock downs gave him the nod.

[CC_123]

I thought the judges got this one right. It was super close and one of the best fights I've ever seen as a long time fan. Strikes were very very close, but Connor did more damage and I thought the knock downs gave him the nod.

The "more damage" just based on strikes is hard to go by because Diaz will bleed from literally a jab because of all the scar tissue he has built up. The knock downs are what sealed the W but I think that McGregor should've been docked an additional point in round 5 for continuously running away from the action. Diaz was the aggressor and controlled the octagon the final three rounds and especially in 5th

[Pot Roast]

Again, Nate is 3-3 at 170 for his career in the UFC (since 2010). I would also like to see Diaz fight Rory or DHK again. I think Diaz is a completely different fight now then he was in 2011 when he fought them. I'd also enjoy a Diaz/Cerrone II. Big fan of both. I think that'd be entertaining.

What six fights did he have at WW in the UFC?

I can only think of the 4 I mentioned. Connor twice Rory and DHK.

[CC_123]

What six fights did he have at WW in the UFC?

I can only think of the 4 I mentioned. Connor twice Rory and DHK.

McGregor, McGregor, Rory, DHK, Rory Markham, and Marcus Davis. Those are his 6 at WW, although the Markham ended up being a catch weight because Markham weighed in at 177

[Pot Roast]

McGregor, McGregor, Rory, DHK, Rory Markham, and Marcus Davis. Those are his 6 at WW, although the Markham ended up being a catch weight because Markham weighed in at 177

Oh man I forgot Markham was WW, Dan Hardy KO'd him out of the UFC I think. Davis was a LW fighter I think. No doubt Nate can beat up fringe UFC fighters.

[CC_123]

Oh man I forgot Markham was WW, Dan Hardy KO'd him out of the UFC I think. Davis was a LW fighter I think. No doubt Nate can beat up fringe UFC fighters.

According to Tapology, Davis and Diaz fought at 170. Markham and Davis aren't terrible fighters but they were never title contender type fighters. Still W's at 170 though :p

[bedler]

I think they gave Diaz an extra point he shouldn't have got honestly.... McGregor jumped up weight and lasted 5 rounds which is tough with that extra weight..... He had ALL the big hits.....kicks.... Knockdowns..... And even defensed Nates takedowns. Diaz was owned and he would've lost 196 if not for that lucky hit on McGregor.

At 155 Diaz won't last 3 rounds vs McGregor.... Diaz is a great fighter but he isn't close to McGregors level as far as domination and landing the big hits. Hell he even broke his foot and still whipped dudes butt!!

Big deal Diaz can put a guy against the fence and he knew a takedown would be his "only" chance to get a W.

Shouldve been 49 - 46 McGregor

[yiguiri2002]

Fighter A: 37 significant strikes, 48% accuracy, 51 total strikes
Fighter B: 34 significant strikes, 48% accuracy, 36 total strikes

Fighter A: 49 significant strikes, 56% accuracy, 79 total strikes
Fighter B: 26 significant strikes, 57% accuracy, 37 total strikes

I had it 48-47 but it's not crazy at all to think it could have been a draw. Hell of a fight.

[CC_123]

I think they gave Diaz an extra point he shouldn't have got honestly.... McGregor jumped up weight and lasted 5 rounds which is tough with that extra weight..... He had ALL the big hits.....kicks.... Knockdowns..... And even defensed Nates takedowns. Diaz was owned and he would've lost 196 if not for that lucky hit on McGregor.

At 155 Diaz won't last 3 rounds vs McGregor.... Diaz is a great fighter but he isn't close to McGregors level as far as domination and landing the big hits. Hell he even broke his foot and still whipped dudes butt!!

Big deal Diaz can put a guy against the fence and he knew a takedown would be his "only" chance to get a W.

Shouldve been 49 - 46 McGregor

First, McGregor doesn't have a broken foot. Secondly, McGregor agreed to fight at 170. That was his decision and nobody else's. Third, at 155, Diaz will be fine. He has fought at 155 for 21 fights in the UFC which includes wins over Gray Maynard, Melvin Guillard, Taknori Gomi, Donald Cerrone, Jim Miller, and Michael Johnson. Diaz is no slouch at 155 (14-6 in UFC career at 155) Look at the losses he has had at 155 and they've been against some legit dudes (RDA, Henderson, etc.). McGregor HAS TO finish Diaz and honestly, I don't think there is any chance that McGregor KO's him with how strong of a jaw Diaz has. McGregor won't submit him either because he refuses to go to the ground, even after a knockdown. All of that is an advantage to Diaz, whether its at 155 or 170. All Diaz has to do is get McGregor on the ground and he is screwed (all 3 career losses have been submissions)

[Prospectorsadvantage]

First, McGregor doesn't have a broken foot. Secondly, McGregor agreed to fight at 170. That was his decision and nobody else's. Third, at 155, Diaz will be fine. He has fought at 155 for 21 fights in the UFC which includes wins over Gray Maynard, Melvin Guillard, Taknori Gomi, Donald Cerrone, Jim Miller, and Michael Johnson. Diaz is no slouch at 155 (14-6 in UFC career at 155) Look at the losses he has had at 155 and they've been against some legit dudes (RDA, Henderson, etc.). McGregor HAS TO finish Diaz and honestly, I don't think there is any chance that McGregor KO's him with how strong of a jaw Diaz has. McGregor won't submit him either because he refuses to go to the ground, even after a knockdown. All of that is an advantage to Diaz, whether its at 155 or 170. All Diaz has to do is get McGregor on the ground and he is screwed (all 3 career losses have been submissions)

Nate tried to get him to the ground, got him there for 15 seconds.

Nate is a journeyman. There's a reason he was making jack before Conor and will make jack unless he fights Conor (hence his unwillingness to fight anyone else). His whole team is full of gatekeepers. All good but not quite good enough. By the way I always found it comical he hates steroid users but two of his corner men have recently been suspended for PEDs. I chalk it up to Nate being punch drunk.

[CC_123]

Nate tried to get him to the ground, got him there for 15 seconds.

Nate is a journeyman. There's a reason he was making jack before Conor and will make jack unless he fights Conor (hence his unwillingness to fight anyone else). His whole team is full of gatekeepers. All good but not quite good enough. By the way I always found it comical he hates steroid users but two of his corner men have recently been suspended for PEDs. I chalk it up to Nate being punch drunk.

Nate didn't try as often to go to the ground as normal though. And if he truly did have a knee injury coming in, that'd explain it and change his game plan. I'm interested in a 3rd fight because I think Nate can get McGregor down and if he does early in a round, McGregor isn't going to get back on his feet. Everyone loves to rag on Diaz for being a "journeyman" but he has fought better fighters throughout his career than McGregor has, who has only fought 4 legit guys and got pushed to the top of the chain faster than he should've IMO. I'd like to see McGregor fight RDA or rematch Aldo as well (let's face it, a connection 14 seconds in doesn't make McGregor better than Aldo, just more fortunate on the connection). Until McGregor can show he can stand in there with RDA or Aldo for more than 14 seconds and still win, I will always be a little suspect. But almost everyone loves to nut hug McGregor and not acknowledge that he has a pretty weak track record of opponents overall.

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[ensbergcollecto]

Nate didn't try as often to go to the ground as normal though. And if he truly did have a knee injury coming in, that'd explain it and change his game plan. I'm interested in a 3rd fight because I think Nate can get McGregor down and if he does early in a round, McGregor isn't going to get back on his feet. Everyone loves to rag on Diaz for being a "journeyman" but he has fought better fighters throughout his career than McGregor has, who has only fought 4 legit guys and got pushed to the top of the chain faster than he should've IMO. I'd like to see McGregor fight RDA or rematch Aldo as well (let's face it, a connection 14 seconds in doesn't make McGregor better than Aldo, just more fortunate on the connection). Until McGregor can show he can stand in there with RDA or Aldo for more than 14 seconds and still win, I will always be a little suspect. But almost everyone loves to nut hug McGregor and not acknowledge that he has a pretty weak track record of opponents overall.

then you have to discount diaz' first win against conner since conner was dominating the fight until a "fortunate" submission. you can't pick and choose which wins are valid. it opens a pandora's box of what ifs

[Angus Con]

then you have to discount diaz' first win against conner since conner was dominating the fight until a "fortunate" submission. you can't pick and choose which wins are valid. it opens a pandora's box of what ifs

Not the same thing at all. McGregor and Aldo both landed clean shots 13 seconds into the fight. Aldo went down while McGregor took the shot. McGregor won. He won the fight, but 13 seconds also isn't enough to predict a second fight between the two.

First Diaz/McGregor fight went almost 9 minutes and it was very predictive of what happened in the second fight. McGregor is the better striker of the two and they slugged it out. We know the third fight is likely to be more of the same unless Diaz's chin finally gives or he takes McGregor down. McGregor was dominating the fight for the first round and a couple of minutes in the second round of the first fight. But his domination led to him showing off, gassing out, and when Diaz hit him up side the head, McGregor was hurt by punches. McGregor tried to take him down because he was hurt. And Diaz submitted him obviously.

You just can't compare McGregor/Aldo vs McGregor/Diaz. Those fights and the fighters are nothing alike.

[Pot Roast]

According to Tapology, Davis and Diaz fought at 170. Markham and Davis aren't terrible fighters but they were never title contender type fighters. Still W's at 170 though :p

True.

Connor should fight Aldo next, I think Dana is going to force it.

"White, though, today told TMZSports.com that Diaz isn’t even an option at this point, and instead, McGregor needs to either fight Aldo in a title-unification bout, or move to 155 for a bout with current lightweight champion Eddie Alvarez (28-4 MMA, 3-1 UFC), presumedly after vacating his 145-pound belt."

[CC_123]

then you have to discount diaz' first win against conner since conner was dominating the fight until a "fortunate" submission. you can't pick and choose which wins are valid. it opens a pandora's box of what ifs

Im saying that a fight that goes 14 seconds doesn't mean much in the sense because it wasn't really a fight. He didn't have to do anything in the fight besides basically get lucky with a left. He didn't have to defend anything, he didn't have to make adjustments, he just had to connect with one punch in 14 seconds, hence why I actually want to see Aldo and McGregor fight past 2 rounds and see how McGregor fares.

[CC_123]

Not the same thing at all. McGregor and Aldo both landed clean shots 13 seconds into the fight. Aldo went down while McGregor took the shot. McGregor won. He won the fight, but 13 seconds also isn't enough to predict a second fight between the two.

First Diaz/McGregor fight went almost 9 minutes and it was very predictive of what happened in the second fight. McGregor is the better striker of the two and they slugged it out. We know the third fight is likely to be more of the same unless Diaz's chin finally gives or he takes McGregor down. McGregor was dominating the fight for the first round and a couple of minutes in the second round of the first fight. But his domination led to him showing off, gassing out, and when Diaz hit him up side the head, McGregor was hurt by punches. McGregor tried to take him down because he was hurt. And Diaz submitted him obviously.

You just can't compare McGregor/Aldo vs McGregor/Diaz. Those fights and the fighters are nothing alike.

Thank you. This is exactly what I am saying. Aldo/McGregor really was never a fight, unlike both Diaz/McGregor fights.

[tattooelement]

Aldo has shown that he doesn't have the chin of Diaz though. Granted, it was a perfect punch. Personally, I don't see Aldo winning the rematch, if they have one.

But, I do think that they should fight, or McGregor needs to vacate the title.

Alvarez vs McGregor would be a fun fight to watch though.

[Angus Con]

Aldo has shown that he doesn't have the chin of Diaz though. Granted, it was a perfect punch. Personally, I don't see Aldo winning the rematch, if they have one.

But, I do think that they should fight, or McGregor needs to vacate the title.

Alvarez vs McGregor would be a fun fight to watch though.

I agree about Aldo's chin, but I also think Aldo has much better defense than Diaz. It might be a borefest if those two fought again because I think Aldo would try to slow it down and avoid getting caught with the big shot. I remember what GSP was like after Serra caught him; I would imagine Aldo will most definitely fight like that against McGregor.

His last fight (against Edgar) showed the "normal" Aldo imo. Aldo is a lot like GSP to me in that he plays it safe and tries to win by decision. And proof of that is he has 9 fights in the UFC; 6 of them are wins via unanimous decision. ;)

[Prospectorsadvantage]

I agree about Aldo's chin, but I also think Aldo has much better defense than Diaz. It might be a borefest if those two fought again because I think Aldo would try to slow it down and avoid getting caught with the big shot. I remember what GSP was like after Serra caught him; I would imagine Aldo will most definitely fight like that against McGregor.

His last fight (against Edgar) showed the "normal" Aldo imo. Aldo is a lot like GSP to me in that he plays it safe and tries to win by decision. And proof of that is he has 9 fights in the UFC; 6 of them are wins via unanimous decision. ;)

Agree think Aldo is a much tougher fight than Diaz. Think Max Holloway presents problems.

[CC_123]

Aldo has shown that he doesn't have the chin of Diaz though. Granted, it was a perfect punch. Personally, I don't see Aldo winning the rematch, if they have one.

But, I do think that they should fight, or McGregor needs to vacate the title.

Alvarez vs McGregor would be a fun fight to watch though.

No, he doesn't have the jaw at all but he is quicker than Diaz and has better defense. Aldo isn't a guy that is just going to go all in like Diaz does because he has a weaker jaw but I could see Aldo beating McGregor, which wouldn't surprise me because Aldo is a great fighter and has topped some tough dudes (Mendes twice, Edgar twice, Faber, Swanson). If it lasts for a couple rounds I think it'd be entertaining.

[Prospectorsadvantage]

No, he doesn't have the jaw at all but he is quicker than Diaz and has better defense. Aldo isn't a guy that is just going to go all in like Diaz does because he has a weaker jaw but I could see Aldo beating McGregor, which wouldn't surprise me because Aldo is a great fighter and has topped some tough dudes (Mendes twice, Edgar twice, Faber, Swanson). If it lasts for a couple rounds I think it'd be entertaining.

Aldo has lost once in like forever on a punch that hit him on the button. Curious why you think he has a weak jaw.

[CC_123]

Aldo has lost once in like forever on a punch that hit him on the button. Curious why you think he has a weak jaw.

Im not the only one that thinks it. Its an assumption after getting clocked on a one hitter quitter. His jaw hasn't really been tested much besides that so the assumption will be that he has a weak jaw until proven otherwise. The thing is that he has such rock solid defense that we may never truly find out how strong his jaw is.

[Prospectorsadvantage]

Im not the only one that thinks it. Its an assumption after getting clocked on a one hitter quitter. His jaw hasn't really been tested much besides that so the assumption will be that he has a weak jaw until proven otherwise. The thing is that he has such rock solid defense that we may never truly find out how strong his jaw is.

Aldo has been in some wars. Second fight was some big shots. I think it's premature to say you have a weak jaw when you've been knocked out once in a decade.

Maybe you are just trolling though.

[CC_123]

Aldo has been in some wars. Second fight was some big shots. I think it's premature to say you have a weak jaw when you've been knocked out once in a decade.

Maybe you are just trolling though.

He's been in some wars but to me, he really hasn't had his jaw tested all that much. Sure here and there but I think he does have a weak jaw. Like I said, we will likely never find out though since he has such incredible defense (hence the 1 KO loss in his career). When you have the type of defense he has, it really doesn't matter if you have a glass jaw are not, as long as you don't rush in right away like he made the mistake doing against McGregor.

[tattooelement]

Aldo has been in some wars. Second fight was some big shots. I think it's premature to say you have a weak jaw when you've been knocked out once in a decade.

Maybe you are just trolling though.

I don't think anyone is saying Aldo can't take a hit.

Just saying he doesn't have the chin of Diaz. Which, to be fair, most don't.

[Prospectorsadvantage]

I don't think anyone is saying Aldo can't take a hit.

Just saying he doesn't have the chin of Diaz. Which, to be fair, most don't.

Agree not many people do. Diaz only been knocked out once and he wasn't really out


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pCtHra_cZKM

[tattooelement]

Agree not many people do. Diaz only been knocked out once and he wasn't really out


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pCtHra_cZKM

Yeah, noticed his corner threw in the towel.

[Clarka3]

If Conor had rushed in and finished Nate off after the knockdown(s) then this would have been over earlier imo. But he let him stand up each time. In hindsight prob a mistake.
Diaz said himself in post fight interview "He should have finished me off".
And not one to make excuses "I came in with an injury"

Diaz wants Conor to think he SHOULD come in and finish him off. Conor was smart enough to not go to the ground, because Diaz' BJJ is MUCH better than Conor's. So whatever Diaz said, he's trying to get Conor to come down to the mat next fight.