96 Select Certified Mirror Gold Jeter sells for $18,350 - PSA 8!

[mouschi]

Wow.

1996 Select Certified Mirror Gold Derek Jeter Rookie RC 100 PSA 8 NM MT PWCC | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1996-Select-Certified-Mirror-Gold-Derek-Jeter-ROOKIE-RC-100-PSA-8-NM-MT-PWCC-/401183376989?hash=item5d6864865d:g:uB8AAOSw9IpXzdvq=&rmvSB=true)

[gr33d]

What was the print run on these.... 20 or 30?

[mouschi]

What was the print run on these.... 20 or 30?

30 - the next year was equally as beautiful, if not more so ... with a stated print run of 30 as well. However, it is unknown of the REAL print run of the 97's, as some were reportedly stolen. There is a pic somewhere of a guy having 30+ of the same 97 mirror gold iirc.

[mfw13]

Fools and their money are soon parted....

[cnewby]

Best card from arguably the most sought after set from the mid-90s.

Not sure about the bidding activity of the top 3 bidders though.

[mouschi]

Best card from arguably the most sought after set from the mid-90s.

Not sure about the bidding activity of the top 3 bidders though.

I wonder if the set were released in '93, if the price would have been any higher. Crazy moola already as it is!

[be8el0ve]

$18,350 for PSA 8. Not bad when you have these...

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii36/be8el0ve/Derek%20Jeter%20Cards/RCs%20Parallels%20Inserts/Inserts7-30-10001.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii36/be8el0ve/Derek%20Jeter%20Cards/RCs%20Parallels%20Inserts/JEter96SelectCertifiedMirrorGoldNNO.jpg

:D:D

[cnewby]

$18,350 for PSA 8. Not bad when you have these...


Haha, nice. You get my text?

[Keyser Soze]

30 - the next year was equally as beautiful, if not more so ... with a stated print run of 30 as well. However, it is unknown of the REAL print run of the 97's, as some were reportedly stolen. There is a pic somewhere of a guy having 30+ of the same 97 mirror gold iirc.

1997's were ruined because Pinnacle kept going back to the printing press for more due to popularity and financial trouble. FCB member George_Calfas owns in the ballpark of 75 Brian Jordan '97 Mirror Golds last I heard. I owned a '97 Mirror Gold Griffey PSA 10 and could only get like $120 for it.

I don't think Pinnacle ever stated any of the print runs for '97, I think people just incorrectly assumed it would be the same as '96.

[Orange October]

Pretty insane card right there. One of the best Jeter cards ever.

[mouschi]

1997's were ruined because Pinnacle kept going back to the printing press for more due to popularity and financial trouble. FCB member George_Calfas owns in the ballpark of 75 Brian Jordan '97 Mirror Golds last I heard. I owned a '97 Mirror Gold Griffey PSA 10 and could only get like $120 for it.

I don't think Pinnacle ever stated any of the print runs for '97, I think people just incorrectly assumed it would be the same as '96.

Ah - very interesting! That isn't surprising about George though. He probably owns the other 29 '96 Jeter golds LOL

[cbuskstwar]

sketchy bidding

[Keyser Soze]

Really odd to me that the Jeter '96 Mirror Red (/90) went for the exact same price as the Mirror Blue (/45), even if the Blue was a PSA 6. (The Red was a PSA 8)

[jriddle253]

30 - the next year was equally as beautiful, if not more so ... with a stated print run of 30 as well. However, it is unknown of the REAL print run of the 97's, as some were reportedly stolen. There is a pic somewhere of a guy having 30+ of the same 97 mirror gold iirc.

I ran into a guy that was based out of Colorado that would come to Tacoma Washington when there was a fairly big show here that had STACKS of the mirror golds from 97 and tons of 98 Pinnacle inserts that were all stolen.

[ThoseBackPages]

Great card!

[952melvin]

sketchy bidding

Looks like every bidder has north of 35% bid activity with PWCC, even a guy with 51 feedback...

I came back to get the 2000 Greats of the Game set, mainly Autos. I'm finishing the set and staying away. To many money hungry people trying to make money off of the hobby from what I can see. The cards I'm buying are going for crazy money, way more than what I originally bought them for when I got them the first time, and way more than what I sold them for.

You have normal guys selling cards at auction, they're selling for a reasonable auction price, and going to guys like PWCC who jack the price up 5 times and let it sit in their ebay store, or they put it up for auction, and shill bid it up to crazy prices and for some reason people are watching their auctions and buying from them.

Well the Jeter is a nice card, and obviously rare, 18k seems a little out of control. But like someone has said in the previous thread, some people with stupid money lying around buying up cards for investment purposes and don't give a damn about the card or hobby as a whole.

[lawrencedc1]

Looks like every bidder has north of 35% bid activity with PWCC, even a guy with 51 feedback...

I came back to get the 2000 Greats of the Game set, mainly Autos. I'm finishing the set and staying away. To many money hungry people trying to make money off of the hobby from what I can see. The cards I'm buying are going for crazy money, way more than what I originally bought them for when I got them the first time, and way more than what I sold them for.

You have normal guys selling cards at auction, they're selling for a reasonable auction price, and going to guys like PWCC who jack the price up 5 times and let it sit in their ebay store, or they put it up for auction, and shill bid it up to crazy prices and for some reason people are watching their auctions and buying from them.

Well the Jeter is a nice card, and obviously rare, 18k seems a little out of control. But like someone has said in the previous thread, some people with stupid money lying around buying up cards for investment purposes and don't give a damn about the card or hobby as a whole.

I have noticed this with a great deal of frequency. So is it safe to say when one has an above 35% bid history with a particular seller it doesn't pass the sniff test?

[BNB]

I just got a 96 red psa 9 back from them. solid flea market pick up for $6.

[cnewby]

I just got a 96 red psa 9 back from them. solid flea market pick up for $6.

SC red, right? Not a mirror red.

[cardsrus1]

30 - the next year was equally as beautiful, if not more so ... with a stated print run of 30 as well. However, it is unknown of the REAL print run of the 97's, as some were reportedly stolen. There is a pic somewhere of a guy having 30+ of the same 97 mirror gold iirc.

The story I got was the executives were not being paid at the end and they "took" cards as that was their only real option to get paid. I do recall one seller at the National that year blowing out a ship load of a lot of the rare hits. It was also reported the wax seller next to the pond got a large chunk of better cards, purchased directly from one of the former executives. I do not think there was ever a bankruptcy sale for them like the other companies have had, if there was the meat of the leftovers were already looted.

[jcurc]

If a '96 Jeter with a print run of 30 goes for 18K, at what price would you value a '93 Jeter with a print run of 1?

[cnewby]

If a '96 Jeter with a print run of 30 goes for 18K, at what price would you value a '93 Jeter with a print run of 1?

Depends. Yours or someone elses?

[no10pin]

If a '96 Jeter with a print run of 30 goes for 18K, at what price would you value a '93 Jeter with a print run of 1?

Would this be a card you ASSUME there is only one of, despite many reasons this probably isn't true?

Probably this, which someone provided in the thread where everyone discussed your 'inversefractor' ebay listing.

Lot Detail - Extremely Rare 1993 Topps Blank Back #98 Derek Jeter RC Rookie Card BGS 8 NM-MT One of Less Than 10 Copies On Record (http://smalltraditions.com/extremely-rare-1993-topps-blank-back-98-derek-jet-lot12614.aspx)

[mouschi]

If a '96 Jeter with a print run of 30 goes for 18K, at what price would you value a '93 Jeter with a print run of 1?

This will depend upon many factors. The reason the 96 Mirror Gold went so high, is because it was the perfect storm:

- It is seen as THE parallel set to chase in the 90's
- It is beautiful
- Player & Set collectors alike have had 20 years to see this on their want list and dream about it

Sometimes lower # cards simply won't fetch what a higher # card will with a great & long running story / history.

[kyle1707]

sketchy bidding

As usual..

Top 4-5 bidders 40-100% bid history ...

Not bad for PWCC... lol usually everything is 70-100%

But doubt sale is real....

[cnewby]

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/baseball/1011696-dave-peters-selling-93-derek-jeter-blank-back.html

[fenwaykid]

I sold a mirror red psa 9 for $800 last year...oops

[jcurc]

Would this be a card you ASSUME there is only one of, despite many reasons this probably isn't true?


In Topps' description of the listing, they referred to the card as a "rather unique" item, which essentially means it's one-of-a-kind. I'm confident that this is the only one. You are assuming there are other ones out there, and I am stating matter-of-factly that there are no others out there.

[no10pin]

In Topps' description of the listing, they referred to the card as a "rather unique" item, which essentially means it's one-of-a-kind. I'm confident that this is the only one. You are assuming there are other ones out there, and I am stating matter-of-factly that there are no others out there.

In your opinion. 'Rather unique' does not equal '1/1'.

I'm not getting into this with you, because I know how it ends. You want someone else to prove there's another one, rather than you coming up with any actual proof that yours is the only one. Good luck.

[jcurc]

This will depend upon many factors. The reason the 96 Mirror Gold went so high, is because it was the perfect storm:

- It is seen as THE parallel set to chase in the 90's
- It is beautiful
- Player & Set collectors alike have had 20 years to see this on their want list and dream about it

Sometimes lower # cards simply won't fetch what a higher # card will with a great & long running story / history.

I can't really argue against any of these points.

While my card in itself doesn't have a long running history, it is a 1/1 parallel of perhaps the most well-known Jeter card, which is why I think it should be valued higher than some people on this board seem to think.

[cnewby]

I can't really argue against any of these points.

While my card in itself doesn't have a long running history, it is a 1/1 parallel of perhaps the most well-known Jeter card, which is why I think it should be valued higher than some people on this board seem to think.

Then auction it and prove it. :)!

[mouschi]

Then auction it and prove it. :)!

That sure would end any doubt one way or the other!

@jcurc just remember this: While it takes just ONE person out there willing to spend CRAZY money on a card in BINOBO land, it takes TWO people out there willing to spend crazy money for you to make bank.

What is this card, anyway? 93 Topps blank back?

[jcurc]

In your opinion. 'Rather unique' does not equal '1/1'.

I'm not getting into this with you, because I know how it ends. You want someone else to prove there's another one, rather than you coming up with any actual proof that yours is the only one. Good luck.

I recant my "matter-of-factly" statement, because no matter what card it is, I have to acknowledge the fact that there is ALWAYS the possibility of another example turning up - even if it is marked "1/1." I've researched Topps' blank back proofs, from Wacky Packages to Garbage Pail Kids to Football and back to Baseball. As confident as I am that this card is one of one, apart from presenting the card and ruling out any evidence to the contrary that it is a 1/1, and as unlikely as it is for another example to ever show up, I guess there is no way to actually prove that it is a 1/1. At some point, you have to stop being so cynical and trust my judgement.

[Archangel1775]

I recant my "matter-of-factly" statement, because no matter what card it is, I have to acknowledge the fact that there is ALWAYS the possibility of another example turning up - even if it is marked "1/1." I've researched Topps' blank back proofs, from Wacky Packages to Garbage Pail Kids to Football and back to Baseball. As confident as I am that this card is one of one, apart from presenting the card and ruling out any evidence to the contrary that it is a 1/1, and as unlikely as it is for another example to ever show up, I guess there is no way to actually prove that it is a 1/1. At some point, you have to stop being so cynical and trust my judgement.

Back in the early nineties,Pre-PSA, there was a group that sold Topps proofs along with "graded" cards. I recall them advertising in Tuff Stuff or Sportscards Monthly. Most were bought at the big Topps Auction way back when. I believe a sample from what they were selling and what has been available the last 10 years on the Topps Vault should be sufficient in determining if there would be multiple copies of the same proof. 25 years should be enough,no? The only issue is finding out what Topps Vault has sold over the last 10 years.