Official Thursday Night COWBOYS vs VIKINGS.

[IronMonkey415]

Boy are we in for a treat tonight.
Finally 2 good team battling it out on a Thursday night.

[BostonNut]

Who coaches the Vikings tonight?

If it's a name I like I will pick them.

[brett06]

Boy are we in for a treat tonight.
Finally 2 good team battling it out on a Thursday night.

5-6 is considered good? I guess this thinking is why there is 36 million bowl games in college. If it was sarcasm, then carry on.


Nm, I stand corrected. They are 6-5.

[IronMonkey415]

I know Cowboys will wipe the floor tonight, I had to be nice and give the other team a chance as well.

Everyone Cowboys fan on this site will have my head if they lose. I promise them I would not create a Cowboys thread and here I go and break that promise.

[Viking6]

Who coaches the Vikings tonight?

If it's a name I like I will pick them.

Mike Priefer... Special Teams coach

The individual that ex Vikings Punter Chris Kluwe said wants to put all the homosexuals on an island and nuke it. Somehow he kept his job. Joke of a face for the team to stand behind tonight.

Minnesota stands a chance just because road teams don't play well on Thursdays. Cowboys have had a full week rest so that shouldn't even matter.

It will be close if Minnesota doesn't get down 10+ in the first half. I will say 20-17 one way or another.

[cnewby]

5-6 is considered good?


Are the 5-6 Packers good?

[brett06]

Are the 5-6 Packers good?

I've never stated they are....as a matter of fact, they are not.

[cnewby]

I've never stated they are....as a matter of fact, they are not.

Who said you did? Was a simple question. :)

Vikings by 6 after Elliott goes down with a hammy injury.

[BostonNut]

Who said you did? Was a simple question. :)

Vikings by 6 after Elliott goes down with a hammy injury.

Trying to set the card market on fire?

[brett06]

Who said you did? Was a simple question. :)

Vikings by 6 after Elliott goes down with a hammy injury.

I don't think the Cowboys even need elliot to win this game. Dak has looking beyond his years. I say cowboys by 10. Minnesota has looked awful the last 5 or so games.

[Nyfancam01]

Go Cowboys!!!!

[codered]

In all honesty I think the cowboys will win but the score will be closer than most people think. I think it's gonna be a low scoring game and kind of ugly. I could see a similar game to the lions game on thanksgiving. Very few touchdowns scored and will be ultimately decided in the fourth quarter. Any chance the Vikings had of an upset I think went away with coach Zimmer not being able to be there tonight but I hope I'm wrong :-)

[FunnyBoxBreak20]

Who said you did? Was a simple question. :)

Vikings by 6 after Elliott goes down with a hammy injury.

I was thinking this but didn't really want the dude to get hurt so I didn't say it

[ThoseBackPages]

i will watch this game.

DAK two picks tonight, Vikings win.

[matt060488]

Ah another thread where cnewby is going for the 2016 Troll Award

[cnewby]

Ah another thread where cnewby is going for the 2016 Troll Award

Willie Snead for President!

[Athey49]

Zimmer had emergency surgery for a detached retina..we have so much in common

[beaver1080]

as a giants fan i really hope the vikings win, however i can see the cowboys blowing this one wide open early and coasting to a win. final score dallas 35 vikings 20

[matt060488]

Willie Snead for President!

A terrible troll at that..

[Grza]

Who coaches the Vikings tonight?

If it's a name I like I will pick them.

Mike "Nuke The Gays" Priefer Will Coach The Vikings Tonight (http://deadspin.com/mike-nuke-the-gays-priefer-will-coach-the-vikings-ton-1789564626)

[cnewby]

A terrible troll at that..

As opposed to a good troll? Thanks for following me though. :)!


Willie Snead...
Laugh all you want but again we are talking right now...just shy of 1,000 yards last season and and on pace to shatter that and undrafted? Thanks for you valuable input though

Hows that 59yds/gm pace looking these days?

[blackbears86]

In all honesty I think the cowboys will win but the score will be closer than most people think. I think it's gonna be a low scoring game and kind of ugly. I could see a similar game to the lions game on thanksgiving. Very few touchdowns scored and will be ultimately decided in the fourth quarter. Any chance the Vikings had of an upset I think went away with coach Zimmer not being able to be there tonight but I hope I'm wrong :-)

I agree, the Vikings offense is terrible, but the defense can still bring it on occasion. I see Dallas winning, but it's going be close.

[cnewby]

If the Min offense can refrain from turning it over I see them keeping it close.

[Branesergen]

35-10 Dallas

[PGS]

My brain says Dallas, but my giant purple heart says Minnesota!!

Win if only to make it that much harder on the Packers....

#skol

[matt060488]

As opposed to a good troll? Thanks for following me though. :)!


Willie Snead...


Hows that 59yds/gm pace looking these days?
Snead-593 Yds/4 TDs+ 50 YD Passing TD
Other mentions in same thread..
Robinson-591 YDs/6 TDs
Marshall-668 YDs/3 TDs
Hopkins-610 YDs/3 TDs
Bryant-550 YDs/5 TDs
How old are you?? Ironmonkey you are in charge of bets...I say 16

[matt060488]

All depends on how Minn can play without Zimmer at the helm...I think they definitely have a chance if that offense can show up and put up a few more points than they normally do..we all know it wont be a shootout..Minn by 6

[Cavaliercards]

Dallas by 2

[freethrowtommy]

Dallas is going to win this going away.

Minnesota sucks just like the whole NFC North.

[Siberian13]

Cheering for the Vikings. Hope this is the defense that trips up Dak/Zeke but the Cowboys have been rolling since week 1.

[CC_123]

I think it'll be closer than a lot of people expect, but I don't see the Vikings winning tonight unless they force two turnovers and get a special teams/defense TD.

[cadillac540]

Need a Dallas win to knock the Vikings down some in case of a wildcard situation.

[lionsfan20]

For the first and likely only time in my life I am rooting the Cowgirls! Hope they keep the Viqueens down and help the Lions win the North. This game shouldn't even be close but for some odd reason I feel like it will be. GO COWBOYS(I just threw up a little)

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[seabass97166]

All depends on how Minn can play without Zimmer at the helm...

Maybe now they won't do a 3 yard play on 3rd and long

[matt060488]

Maybe now they won't do a 3 yard play on 3rd and long

This is a possibility! Then again punters lives matter!

[trixstar]

Random fact:

On Feb 25, 1989, Jerry Jones bought the Cowboys for $140M ($273M in today's $). The team is worth $4 billion now, according to Forbes.

[cnewby]

Apparently Dez is "strong from the neck up"

[CC_123]

What a weak offensive PI that was

[freethrowtommy]

What a weak offensive PI that was

Uh, not really. It was pretty obvious.

[lionsfan20]

What a weak offensive PI that was
Oh lord lol already on the first call?! You say every week that you don't complain about flags or refs....that was pretty clear cut PI.

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[PGS]

Interesting offensive PI. Jordy Nelson does that all the time and it's never called.

[CC_123]

Uh, not really. It was pretty obvious.

C'mon, that was pretty damn touchy. Both guys were hand fighting. You see worse than that not called every single week. It was a touchy call.

[CC_123]

Oh lord lol already on the first call?! You say every week that you don't complain about flags or refs....that was pretty clear cut PI.

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You wouldn't be saying that if it was a offensive PI against the Lions. You only say that because you are cheering for the Cowboys.

[PGS]

C'mon, that was pretty damn touchy. Both guys were hand fighting. You see worse than that not called every single week. It was a touchy call.

I recall a very specific one from Monday night that wasn't called....

[matt060488]

C'mon, that was pretty damn touchy. Both guys were hand fighting. You see worse than that not called every single week. It was a touchy call.

Touchy call with a full arm extension huh?

[lionsfan20]

You wouldn't be saying that if it was a offensive PI against the Lions. You only say that because you are cheering for the Cowboys.
Did you hear me complaining in the game thread last week during lions game?? Nope. Unlike you I don't complain about calls every game. All teams get good and bad calls. Just have to play through it.

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[IronMonkey415]

This is not going to be my downfall.

<packs bag and run away>

[ThoseBackPages]

FUMBLE!!!!!

[lionsfan20]

Huge break for the Vikes! Dallas would pick this game to play like a bunch of rookies lol.😏

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[freethrowtommy]

Dallas is getting that back.

[CC_123]

Did you hear me complaining in the game thread last week during lions game?? Nope. Unlike you I don't complain about calls every game. All teams get good and bad calls. Just have to play through it.

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Actually I did see you complaining last week and I called you for it since everyone rags on me for one complaint on a touchy penalty that you see not get called every week.

Almost got a huge turnover there, but got a big 3rd down stop.

[codered]

Officals got that call on the fumble right unfortunately lol. The C patt was indeed PI and yes tons of other players get away with (a certain number 88 in this game does, as do most star players) it should be called on consistantly. A foul is a foul haha like when I ref basketball, my favourite saying is "I barely fouled him!! Why did you call that!?" Well you fouled him lol

[lionsfan20]

All of a sudden the Queen's have an offense!

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[codered]

Refs might want to double check if these are the actual players for the Vikings offense lol they haven't looked familiar so far!!

[codered]

There it is!! That's my Vikings O I'm use to!! Holding on 3rd and 1 and a short dump off on 3rd and long

[CC_123]

Its nice not having to hold my breathe as long on FG's. I still get nervous thanks to Blair, but I am gaining some confidence in Kai

[codered]

Its nice not having to hold my breathe as long on FG's. I still get nervous thanks to Blair, but I am gaining some confidence in Kai

+1:)!

[codered]

Dak just doesn't play like a rookie

[lionsfan20]

Lol this is hilarious! This is the worst the Cowboys have played all year so far. Figures

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[codered]

Lol this is hilarious! This is the worst the Cowboys have played all year so far. Figures

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Crazy hey!!! Has nothing to do with the fact that they are playing the most efficient and better D's in the NFL :cool:

[CC_123]

If McKinnon just lobs that pass, Rudolph walks into the end zone

[lionsfan20]

Crazy hey!!! Has nothing to do with the fact that they are playing the most efficient and better D's in the NFL :cool:
[emoji57] If the Lions can beat this world class defense twice I think Dallas should be able to handle them.

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[burke23]

[emoji57] If the Lions can beat this world class defense twice I think Dallas should be able to handle them.

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Didn't realize the Lions O is what won those games. I would say it was more in the Vikes O or lack there of :(

[Nyfancam01]

DEZ!

Awesome catch lol

[CC_123]

[emoji57] If the Lions can beat this world class defense twice I think Dallas should be able to handle them.

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So two games (not even games, one play in the first game and one drive in the second) determines how good the Vikings defense is? Oh okay.

[lionsfan20]

Didn't realize the Lions O is what won those games. I would say it was more in the Vikes O or lack there of :(
Your probably right the Lions suck the Vikings must just suck a little more.

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[CC_123]

Your probably right the Lions suck the Vikings must just suck a little more.

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Vikings defense is good, Vikings offense is very very very mediocre, especially when its missing Diggs.

[burke23]

Your probably right the Lions suck the Vikings must just suck a little more.

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Because that is what I said? Sheesh. Sensitive. Detroit D >> Vikes O. that was the difference.

[lionsfan20]

So two games (not even games, one play in the first game and one drive in the second) determines how good the Vikings defense is? Oh okay.
Whatever helps you sleep at night.[emoji106] I wouldn't wear those purple glasses to bed however that won't help.

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[lionsfan20]

Man penalties and turnovers galore for Dallas...wth

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[cnewby]

Great check down Bradford.

[CC_123]

Whatever helps you sleep at night.[emoji106] I wouldn't wear those purple glasses to bed however that won't help.

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Please tell me how the Lions offense outplayed the Vikings defense in both games? One play at the end of the 4th quarter in the first game and the drive to tie the game in the last game. Those are where the defense failed us, but they are still a very good defense.

[CC_123]

Great check down Bradford.

In his defense, he was looking down field, the receivers just didn't get any separation. That's where you put Diggs and Thielen on slant routes.

[lionsfan20]

This game is giving me a little hope for when the Lions go to Dallas at least.

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[blackbears86]

you need ten yards? Pass for 1....I've not seen the Vikes play this year.......The offense is absolutely terrible!!!!!!!!!!

The defense? Very good..........

[burke23]

you need ten yards? Pass for 1....I've not seen the Vikes play this year.......The offense is absolutely terrible!!!!!!!!!!

The defense? Very good..........

It wouldn't be so atrocious if they weren't throwing out a HS O-line. Bradford is liable to get killed if they try to hold it for longer patterns, but is a risk they have to take as it has not helped them win games the last 7 weeks :(

[TWard]

Bradford hurt... Uh-oh.


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[lionsfan20]

Shocker. Peanut brittle Bradford is hurt again. He has lasted longer than most imagined already.

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[Nyfancam01]

I would've thrown into the endzone....

[HBMC]

Snead-593 Yds/4 TDs+ 50 YD Passing TD
Other mentions in same thread..
Robinson-591 YDs/6 TDs
Marshall-668 YDs/3 TDs
Hopkins-610 YDs/3 TDs
Bryant-550 YDs/5 TDs
How old are you?? Ironmonkey you are in charge of bets...I say 16

To be fair, Dez missed 4 weeks.

That hit on Bradford looked nasty.

[codered]

[emoji57] If the Lions can beat this world class defense twice I think Dallas should be able to handle them.

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Lol I hear what you're saying and it wasn't like you guys destroyed us lol if anything we "lost" those games lol you didn't "win" them (well Stafford was clutch the first one and Bradford is awful). Our D is really good but the O is terrible and dare I say the worst in the league. Look at the cowboys as an example. They have a very average D but the O keeps them off the field and usually puts the other team in terrible field positions. The O makes the D look way better in Dallas. We are the opposite unfortunately. Our offense puts us in terrible positions and doesn't stay on the field and gives the D no time to rest. If we had an offense like Dallas I think people would be easily talking about this D as the best in the league!!

[lionsfan20]

Lol I hear what you're saying and it wasn't like you guys destroyed us lol if anything we "lost" those games lol you didn't "win" them (well Stafford was clutch the first one and Bradford is awful). Our D is really good but the O is terrible and dare I say the worst in the league. Look at the cowboys as an example. They have a very average D but the O keeps them off the field and usually puts the other team in terrible field positions. The O makes the D look way better in Dallas. We are the opposite unfortunately. Our offense puts us in terrible positions and doesn't stay on the field and gives the D no time to rest. If we had an offense like Dallas I think people would be easily talking about this D as the best in the league!!
Lions had to make clutch plays and game winning drives in both games so they definitely "won" those games in everybody's eyes except vikes fans.

That being said I agree with what you said about the Vikes defense. It is one of the best and probably would be better if Vikes had an offense.

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[CC_123]

If Bradford is out in the 2nd half, just toss Taylor Heinicke out there. He at least has some mobility unlike Bradford and Hill. We won't win this game if Hill is the QB for the 2nd half.

[lionsfan20]

If Bradford is out in the 2nd half, just toss Taylor Heinicke out there. He at least has some mobility unlike Bradford and Hill. We won't win this game if Hill is the QB for the 2nd half.
I actually think Hill is an upgrade over Bradford. He knows the offense and he can actually throw the ball more than 10 yards. I hope Bradford is ok or I fear Vikes might pull off a miracle tonight.

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[codered]

Lions had to make clutch plays and game winning drives in both games so they definitely "won" those games in everybody's eyes except vikes fans.

That being said I agree with what you said about the Vikes defense. It is one of the best and probably would be better if Vikes had an offense.

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First game you guys were clutch, Stafford had ice in his veins, prater is automatic and that was a great play by Tate in OT but we gift wrapped that game winning field goal on thanksgiving lol

By the way your welcome for the TE quick end round play on the goal line that Ebron scored on against the eagles to win lol exact same play we ran against you in minny with Ellison to go ahead at the end of the fourth qtr ;)

[CC_123]

Bradford with the wheels

[CC_123]

I actually think Hill is an upgrade over Bradford. He knows the offense and he can actually throw the ball more than 10 yards. I hope Bradford is ok or I fear Vikes might pull off a miracle tonight.

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Hill and Bradford as the same player. I'd just rather take Bradford over Hill because Bradford is more accurate usually than Hill

[CC_123]

So the Cowboys DB can hold Treadwell's arm with the ball incoming and its not PI, but the one earlier on Patterson was? Wow

[lionsfan20]

So the Cowboys DB can hold Treadwell's arm with the ball incoming and its not PI, but the one earlier on Patterson was? Wow
It honestly looked like Treadwell was holding the DBs arm to me...but I could be wrong??

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[CC_123]

It honestly looked like Treadwell was holding the DBs arm to me...but I could be wrong??

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Either way, if a PI is called on Patterson earlier, that one needs to be called too, whether its on Treadwell or the defender.

[codered]

It honestly looked like Treadwell was holding the DBs arm to me...but I could be wrong??

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I hate how they allow a "little" contact when it's mutual (that's how it looked to me on that play). Throw the flag one the first guy who starts grabbing

[lionsfan20]

Either way, if a PI is called on Patterson earlier, that one needs to be called too, whether its on Treadwell or the defender.
Fair enough. 5 penalties on each team so far. Seems pretty even to this point.

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[lionsfan20]

Lol what was that play?? Scrap that one Dallas that was pointless.

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[codered]

Great tackle by Rhodes!! I was gonna say he's having a great season haha thanks for stealing my thunder Collinsworth

[CC_123]

Rudolph HAS to catch that ball. Bradford placed that in the perfect spot and Rudolph just whiffed on it

[codered]

Reel'em in Robison!!!

[lionsfan20]

Well thanks for nothing Dallas. Guess the Lions are going to have to win this division on their own.

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[lionsfan20]

Maybe that "win one for the Zimmer" pregame speech sparked something in this Vikes team??

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[codered]

We have to score a td here if we wanna win this game

[codered]

Be still my beating heart lol that was close! Hate we had to settle for 3 though

[Siberian13]

We have to score a td here if we wanna win this game

Defense like this and the FGS might do it. Only two plays have been made by the cowboys so far. Barr missed dak and Harrison bit on a play.

[lionsfan20]

I don't understand what happened to the kicking game?? So many easy field goals and extra points missed or nearly missed this season. Barring a block kicks like that used to be automatic in the NFL.

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[blackbears86]

for as terrible as the vikes offense has been, the defense has been fantastic.....

[codered]

Maybe that "win one for the Zimmer" pregame speech sparked something in this Vikes team??

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Rudy was on AMC today lol maybe someone on the coaching staff watched it and was caught up in the fighting Irish magic and delivered the gipper speech with Zimmer's name instead lol

[CC_123]

The Vikings aren't going to win just making FG's.

[hanstess]

Penalties, penalties, penalties...ugh

Vikes defense is legit though. Swarming Dak at every turn

[ThoseBackPages]

WOW!!!!!!

[lionsfan20]

Teams are getting a ton of good film on how to beat the Cowboys in this game. Cowboys look lost out there.

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[trixstar]

Zeke v Danielle Hunter is never going to end well for Dallas.

[bkz81]

First Cowboys game I've watched this season & I gotta ask, what is all the hype about?! I'm really excited, hopefully the Raiders see them in the Super Bowl!!!

[norskarv]

If Blair Walsh were still here in Minnesota, we'd be losing 7-3.

Muhahahaha!

[TWard]

If the Cowboys lose this game, get ready for all the ESPN shows tomorrow, calling the Cowboys pretenders, overrated and "not very good"


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[lionsfan20]

That was a fumble with clear recovery by Dallas. Wow I hope the refs don't botch this!

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[Nyfancam01]

First Cowboys game I've watched this season & I gotta ask, what is all the hype about?! I'm really excited, hopefully the Raiders see them in the Super Bowl!!!

Dallas playing real bad. plus the vikings D is real tough


your raiders want no parts of this cowboys squad... believe me

[Nyfancam01]

Cowboys ball!!!!!

[CC_123]

Stupid decision by Thielen. That just cost us the game.

[Nyfancam01]

The MAN!!!!

DEZ BRYANT BABY!!!!

X X X X X X X

[codered]

Turnover cost us huge

[ThoseBackPages]

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!

[lionsfan20]

Lot of time left.

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[CC_123]

The Vikings are beating themselves again. We've outplayed the Cowboys for 3 quarters but mess up when we can't afford to, especially when the offense cannot get into the offense.

[codered]

Our D deserves better than this :-(

[kyle1707]

Maybe romo should go to vikings...

[TheFrenzy]

All hail King Jerry Jones!

All hail Coach Redball!

All hail the Dallas Cowboys!

[CC_123]

Maybe romo should go to vikings...

No....

[codered]

Maybe romo should go to vikings...

He's injured enough with the monster of wall they have for a line in Dallas. He'd last a game or two with our line

[codered]

Come on Sammy!! Don't go down that easily

[codered]

Dropped balls doing us no favours

[CC_123]

Well, this game is over. Can't catch passes on key downs, can't capitalize when you get the ball in our red zone off a turnover. Completely outplaying the Cowboys and will still come out with an L. The defense can't do everything.

[codered]

Well, this game is over. Can't catch passes on key downs, can't capitalize when you get the ball in our red zone off a turnover. Completely outplaying the Cowboys and will still come out with an L. The defense can't do everything.

Sounds like the majority of our losses this year

[Nyfancam01]

.. ... ... HOW BOUT THEM COWBOYS?!?!?!?

love it

[codered]

.. ... ... HOW BOUT THEM COWBOYS?!?!?!?

love it

Meh haha I wouldn't exactly be bragging about this game lol but you guys have a great team and hands down best running game in the NFL

[trixstar]

Still think this was more of a missed catch than an overthrow

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CypI3zPWEAAfIiU.jpg

[norskarv]

Stick a fork in the Vikes. They're done.

[CC_123]

Still think this was more of a missed catch than an overthrow

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CypI3zPWEAAfIiU.jpg

Definitely a drop. You cannot miss that. Him and Rudolph have had some big drops tonight.

[codered]

Still think this was more of a missed catch than an overthrow

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CypI3zPWEAAfIiU.jpg

Yeap!! I remember my HS coach use to tell me, if it touches your hands, you dropped it. I dropped a few lol

[TWard]

Did they seriously just play w Backstreet Boys song? (Or N'Sync, can't remember)


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[CC_123]

Sounds like the majority of our losses this year

We beat ourselves twice against the Lions, against Washington, and tonight. Its getting so old. I'll bleed purple and gold until I die but its frustrating.

How about an offensive PI on Williams there? Patterson gets called for a touchy one but Williams pushes with two arms and nothing?

[Nyfancam01]

Up by 8.. . I like that

[ThoseBackPages]

this isnt helping my quest to land DAK & ZEKE Prizms lol

[CC_123]

Up by 8.. . I like that

You were fine up by 5. The Vikings can't buy their way into the end zone, let alone get a TD AND convert the 2 points.

[codered]

We beat ourselves twice against the Lions, against Washington, and tonight. Its getting so old. I'll bleed purple and gold until I die but its frustrating.

How about an offensive PI on Williams there? Patterson gets called for a touchy one but Williams pushes with two arms and nothing?

Me too, I'll never give up on them.

I just saw that on the reply. Pushed off on the back and no call. I don't know how they miss so many PI calls. If the C patt one was O-PI that one should of been on williams

[cnewby]

We beat ourselves twice against the Lions, against Washington, and tonight. Its getting so old. I'll bleed purple and gold until I die but its frustrating.

How about an offensive PI on Williams there? Patterson gets called for a touchy one but Williams pushes with two arms and nothing?

Sooooooo salty, this guy.

[CC_123]

God, TJ Clemmings is absolutely awful.

[cnewby]

MIN punter sucks.

[Nyfancam01]

MIN punter sucks.

yea.. he's had a ROUGH night

[tclausen]

This Vikings offense makes football hard to watch. The O-line is absolute garbage. And why do the announcers keep on stating they are good run blockers. The Vikings are among the worst rushing team in the history of the NFL this year. This O-line does nothing good. Hell, they don't even do anything average. None of them should even be in the NFL.

[CC_123]

Sooooooo salty, this guy.

Its not being salty when its the reality. We have beat ourselves more than teams have beat us. Tonight, I didn't come in expecting the Vikings to beat the Cowboys, but it is frustrating when we completely outplayed them and still lose because of a single deep ball and then a fumble on a play when Thielen should've fair caught it. We also beat ourselves by not capitalizing on turnovers, especially at the 20 yard line and dropping passes, especially Rudolph in the end zone.

[CC_123]

MIN punter sucks.

This is the worst he has punted all year. He was surprisingly punting well this year until tonight.

HUGE missed hold on #68 on that play.

[codered]

God, TJ Clemmings is absolutely awful.

He's a good RT but he's so out of position on the left side. He was a good right tackle last year. He still relatively new to playing O-line as well. I'm pretty sure he was a d-linemen at Pitt and changed over his junior year. Unfortunately he's all we have right mow

[CC_123]

He's a good RT but he's so out of position on the left side. He was a good right tackle last year. He still relatively new to playing O-line as well. I'm pretty sure he was a d-linemen at Pitt and changed over his junior year. Unfortunately he's all we have right mow

He's not a good tackle at all. He is a guard, not a tackle. I'd put Boone or Sirles at LT and have Clemmings move into a guard slot. On a good day for Clemmings, he is still 10x worse than Kalil

[ThoseBackPages]

wow, Whitten's 130 game-catch streak ends!

[codered]

He's not a good tackle at all. He is a guard, not a tackle. I'd put Boone or Sirles at LT and have Clemmings move into a guard slot. On a good day for Clemmings, he is still 10x worse than Kalil

I liked what he did replacing Phil last year but I could see him play well as a guard cause he's a mauler for sure!! 10X worse than kalil!? That's bold lol

[trixstar]

Thielen is really good

[trixstar]

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[lionsfan20]

Dallas doing their best to keep Minnesota in this game.

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[cnewby]

Forget Dal, I wonder if Min will win or lose this game.

[Siberian13]

Line was -3 right for Dallas?

[Nyfancam01]

Line was -3 right for Dallas?

this is correct.

[Siberian13]

this is correct.

Probably heavy betting on Dallas i assume?

[Nyfancam01]

please FAIL here on the 2pt

[lionsfan20]

please FAIL here on the 2pt
Not feeling so good about that lead now huh??

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[Nyfancam01]

Probably heavy betting on Dallas i assume?

probably.

i didn't bet on it.

[Nyfancam01]

Not feeling so good about that lead now huh??

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I feel FINE about it!

GO COWBOYS

[bkz81]

Into the stands for the win!!!

[lionsfan20]

Lol Bradford sucks!😂😂

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[NeedChapmans]

probably.

i didn't bet on it.

Extremely heavy. Pool I run w/ 90 people had 70+ take Dallas minus the points. These mini covers where the dog loses but covers less than 3 are goldmines for Vegas.

[Siberian13]

Vegas wins

[CC_123]

Typical. Another blown call by the refs. Horrible blow to the head of Bradford in a no call. Typical. The NFL wants the Cowboys to run the table.

[codered]

Brutal no call......cam Newton is not our quarterback either

[CC_123]

Lol Bradford sucks!😂😂

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Horrible throw but still a blow to the head that should've been called. No excuse to miss that call.

[seabass97166]

Dallas by 2

Somebody buy this man a steak dinner!!

[FBGuy13]

Bradford is so bad. I just love that they gave up their 1st rounder for this bum. Very much enjoying this Vikings season collapse :D

[CC_123]

Bradford is so bad. I just love that they gave up their 1st rounder for this bum. Very much enjoying this Vikings season collapse :D

Still beat your Packers.

[PGS]

Huh, another call that the Packers always get, but yet Vikings don't....

[lionsfan20]

Thank you Dallas! Now you can lose the rest of your games and that would be great! Now we just need the Lions to do their part and extend the division lead!! GO LIONS!!!

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[slugger22]

Typical. Another blown call by the refs. Horrible blow to the head of Bradford in a no call. Typical. The NFL wants the Cowboys to run the table.

That's what happens when South America's Team is winning !

[matt060488]

Still beat your Packers.

You have to be a woman?

[CC_123]

No reason the refs should miss that blow to the head though. He grasped his facemask. Thats an automatic penalty and there should be no question about it. The refs this season in EVERY game (yes, every game played this season) have been brutal and inconsistent.

[matt060488]

Thank you Dallas! Now you can lose the rest of your games and that would be great! Now we just need the Lions to do their part and extend the division lead!! GO LIONS!!!

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Go saints :D

[codered]

Hard not to be salty after a blatant blown no call on the 2 pt conversion. Our D was amazing tonight though. If we didn't have a terrible offense the cowboys would be our b@&$h tonight

[dfr52]

Tough win by the Cowboys. The offense did not have a good game against a strong defense but they managed to pull out the win.

[CC_123]

You have to be a woman?

Did that comment strike a nerve? Still upset that the Vikings can go 1-6 in their last 7 games and yet they still have a game lead on the Packers with the tiebreaker in hand?

[matt060488]

Did that comment strike a nerve? Still upset that the Vikings can go 1-6 in their last 7 games and yet they still have a game lead on the Packers with the tiebreaker in hand?

Nice try..not a packers fan..

[CC_123]

The Lions I think lose to the Saints, Cowboys, and either Packers/Giants. They don't have an easy road ahead in their final 5 games. They could go 3-2, 2-3, or even 1-4 in the final 5 games. Sadly, right now, the Vikings will have to go 4-0 to close out the season to have a shot at the division. They MIGHT be able to get a wild card with a 3-1 record to close it out but I don't see 9-7 snagging a wild card spot.

[CC_123]

Nice try..not a packers fan..

Still a tool :)!

[dfr52]

The refs also missed a hand to the face of a Cowboys defensive lineman earlier in the game.

[cnewby]

You have to be a woman?

Trolls gonna troll, amarite?

[rman112]

Sam Bradford dreams of checking down

[ninjacookies]

Seahawks and Dallas both hefty with the ref gifting this holiday season. Word.

[FBGuy13]

Still beat your Packers.

They sure did! I think GB will get them back in a few weeks. Neither team going to go far this year with how they both are playing. So it could end up being a meaningless game. But I like how GB is setup better for next year. Just never been a believer in Bradford whether it be on Rams, Philly, or Minny - so I thought it was a drastic overpay for a guy who should never be traded for a 1st rounder. Shaun Hill would have had this team in equal or better position. Still can't believe the Lions might win the division - but they are due for a division title I guess.

[matt060488]

Still a tool :)!

Yeah I think you took that award once again tonight..

[matt060488]

Trolls gonna troll, amarite?

Seriously how old are you..I asked earlier and hmm no answer...16 must be right

[codered]

We still could go 4-0 our last 4 games. Jacksonville, Indy and Chicago are all games we should be favoured in a "should" win. Xmas day in lambeau could be very important and hopefu We will have AP back for that game. 10-6 could still win the division (tough though with Detroit having the tie breaker) or win a WC spot

[TheFrenzy]

The NFL wants the Cowboys to run the table.

Lol!

Pretty sure Dean Blandino hasn't done the Cowboys any favors.

[CC_123]

They sure did! I think GB will get them back in a few weeks. Neither team going to go far this year with how they both are playing. So it could end up being a meaningless game. But I like how GB is setup better for next year. Just never been a believer in Bradford whether it be on Rams, Philly, or Minny - so I thought it was a drastic overpay for a guy who should never be traded for a 1st rounder. Shaun Hill would have had this team in equal or better position. Still can't believe the Lions might win the division - but they are due for a division title I guess.

Well, if both teams win their next 2 games (3 for the Packers), that game will end up meaning a lot I think. Either way, whether both teams are 0-15 and 15-0, the Packers/Vikings game always means something.

I said when they traded for Bradford that a 1st was too much but what were they supposed to do? Hill wasn't going to last all season and isn't as good as Bradford. I would've rather seen a 2nd traded for Bradford, but we were in a desperate time for a QB and teams knew it so they had to overpay

[HBMC]

Seahawks and Dallas both hefty with the ref gifting this holiday season. Word.

Less of a gift and more of a flat miss, Corrente had a terrible angle for that call and the other judge (to Bradford's left and back about 12 yards and who is looking for the Lineman holding, not the QB, which is the Umpire's job) couldn't tell or wouldn't be looking for that either.

The shine came off Dak quite a bit tonight, he looked pretty ordinary in many regards IMO. His mobility was crucial, but man, he had to handle that snap on 3rd & short, that whole TD drive may have been a moot point all due to not fielding a snap under center correctly.

My Boys were fortunate to win tonight, there is little to crow about except the Defense being adequate once again. Holding a team to a FG after the offense ceded possession at the 19 is impressive.

[CC_123]

Lol!

Pretty sure Dean Blandino hasn't done the Cowboys any favors.

They sure bailed them out on some defensive PI and that last play with the blow to the head. But sure, no favors :)!

[matt060488]

We still could go 4-0 our last 4 games. Jacksonville, Indy and Chicago are all games we should be favoured in a "should" win. Xmas day in lambeau could be very important and hopefu We will have AP back for that game. 10-6 could still win the division (tough though with Detroit having the tie breaker) or win a WC spot

With that defense you should have no issue beating those 3 and I really think the Vikes can take GB..one decent showing against the eagles doesnt mean they're back

[Nyfancam01]

lets just be honest... ... ...

THE DALLAS COWBOYS ARE LIT !!!!!!

[cnewby]

Seriously how old are you..I asked earlier and hmm no answer...16 must be right

Thats the best response you have?

Given your clear child status, I will not answer your irrelevant question.

[matt060488]

Thats the best response you have?

Given your clear child status, I will not answer your irrelevant question.

Nope I am not afraid to say I am 28..there is no response for your non question...so yeah 16 it is

[matt060488]

Goodnight all some of us work early and others cnewby have school tomorrow

[cnewby]

Goodnight all some of us work early and others cnewby have school tomorrow

Im 32 kiddo. Youll grow up one of these days.

[matt060488]

Im 32 kiddo. Youll grow up one of these days.

Lol coming from the troll, yeah thanks for that.

[cnewby]

Lol coming from the troll, yeah thanks for that.

You are terribly obnoxious, going to block list to save myself from stooping to your level moving forward.

You win, champ.

[ninjacookies]

Less of a gift and more of a flat miss, Corrente had a terrible angle for that call and the other judge (to Bradford's left and back about 12 yards and who is looking for the Lineman holding, not the QB, which is the Umpire's job) couldn't tell or wouldn't be looking for that either.

The shine came off Dak quite a bit tonight, he looked pretty ordinary in many regards IMO. His mobility was crucial, but man, he had to handle that snap on 3rd & short, that whole TD drive may have been a moot point all due to not fielding a snap under center correctly.

My Boys were fortunate to win tonight, there is little to crow about except the Defense being adequate once again. Holding a team to a FG after the offense ceded possession at the 19 is impressive.

Sarcasm my friend :) Was pretty much exactly what happened on the Julio play when the ref had a bad angle on the arm bar. It happens...it's the NFL and it's tough to get calls at crucial times, let alone a final game deciding play.

Minnesota was quite fortunate to even be in that position, had it not been for Dak sliding unnecessarily early to force that 3rd down and short and subsequent fumble.

[matt060488]

You are terribly obnoxious, going to block list to save myself from stooping to your level moving forward.

You win, champ.

Hahaha thank you..add another person to the block list..your block list on here and in real life must be huge...maybe its you? Of course Im sure more people have added you to their block list so again maybe its you? Been fun all..was a great matchup for TNF regardless of outcome.

[HBMC]

Sarcasm my friend :) Was pretty much exactly what happened on the Julio play when the ref had a bad angle on the arm bar. It happens...it's the NFL and it's tough to get calls at crucial times, let alone a final game deciding play.

Minnesota was quite fortunate to even be in that position, had it not been for Dak sliding unnecessarily early to force that 3rd down and short and subsequent fumble.

Figures lol, but yes, bad angles prevent a lot of calls. If the Refs had the perfect angles on every play, the game would be an over penalized mess.

[TheFrenzy]

They sure bailed them out on some defensive PI and that last play with the blow to the head. But sure, no favors :)!

As a Cowboys fan, I can tell you exactly how to go about hate'n on the team from Dallas. (Not calling you a hater, I like seeing your posts)

- Hate the team because Jerry Jones has finally reached the age where those around him can actually talk him out of drafting Johnny Manziel and into drafting Zack Martin.

- Hate the team because Jones, for all of his foolishness and business>football decisions, is getting to ride the coattails of Stephen Jones' personnel decisions.

- Hate the team because Jason Garrett - former Jones' puppet - has morphed into an actually gritty coach who can adapt to his "backup" QB after the disaster that was last season.

- Hate the team because circumstances have forced it to mold itself into the kind of solidly-built roster that can withstand injury and poor performances with its historically-deep O-line and talented skill players. Hate it for being so solidly-built that it can win 11 out 12 games with the lesser of its two quarterbacks.

- Hate the team because, for all of Dak's hype, he's never had to dig the team out of a multiple-score hole. Something we all know Romo is capable of if there is time on the clock. Seriously, as a Cowboys fan, I'm thrilled that Dak has played the kind of football that has largely prevented the Boys from falling into 14 or 17 pt deficits......but no team wins the Super Bowl without at least one improbable comeback. I still haven't seen enough to feel confident in keeping Romo on the bench when such a situation inevitably arises. My biggest fear is that they don't face such a deficit until a playoff matchup against a team like Atlanta and by then it's too late to sort out who your Captain Comeback is going to be.

So yeah, as a Cowboys fan there are plenty of reasons I can give as to why other fans should hate this team - but NFL officiating conspiracies is not one of them.

- The Frenzy

[matt060488]

Figures lol, but yes, bad angles prevent a lot of calls. If the Refs had the perfect angles on every play, the game would be an over penalized mess.

This...

[ninjacookies]

Figures lol, but yes, bad angles prevent a lot of calls. If the Refs had the perfect angles on every play, the game would be an over penalized mess.

If that were the case, holding would probably be called at a 75% clip and stadiums would have to provide sleeping bags and vivarin for the snooze fests.

[cnewby]

So whos tops in the NFC right now? Dal looked vulnerable tonight.

[CC_123]

As a Cowboys fan, I can tell you exactly how to go about hate'n on the team from Dallas. (Not calling you a hater, I like seeing your posts)

- Hate the team because Jerry Jones has finally reached the age where those around him can actually talk him out of drafting Johnny Manziel and into drafting Zack Martin.

- Hate the team because Jones, for all of his foolishness and business>football decisions, is getting to ride the coattails of Stephen Jones' personnel decisions.

- Hate the team because Jason Garrett - former Jones' puppet - has morphed into an actually gritty coach who can adapt to his "backup" QB after the disaster that was last season.

- Hate the team because circumstances have forced it to mold itself into the kind of solidly-built roster that can withstand injury and poor performances with its historically-deep O-line and talented skill players. Hate it for being so solidly-built that it can win 11 out 12 games with the lesser of its two quarterbacks.

- Hate the team because, for all of Dak's hype, he's never had to dig the team out of a multiple-score hole. Something we all know Romo is capable of if there is time on the clock. Seriously, as a Cowboys fan, I'm thrilled that Dak has played the kind of football that has largely prevented the Boys from falling into 14 or 17 pt deficits......but no team wins the Super Bowl without at least one improbable comeback. I still haven't seen enough to feel confident in keeping Romo on the bench when such a situation inevitably arises. My biggest fear is that they don't face such a deficit until a playoff matchup against a team like Atlanta and by then it's too late to sort out who your Captain Comeback is going to be.

So yeah, as a Cowboys fan there are plenty of reasons I can give as to why other fans should hate this team - but NFL officiating conspiracies is not one of them.

- The Frenzy

I actually don't hate the Cowboys (anymore). I enjoy watching Dak play, I've liked Zeke since college, and watching the offensive line bully defenses around is entertaining. I just think there was some calls that should've been called against Dallas but werent, but even so, the Vikings shot themselves in the foot. They couldn't capitalize on turnovers, they had some key drops, and the most painful one, Thielen fumbles in a bad spot. Honestly, if Thielen doesn't fumble, Minnesota likely wins with just kicking FGs and the final probably would've been 12-7 or 12-10 in favor of Minnesota. But when it comes down to it, the Vikings have to get into the end zone and not rely on their kicker and defense as much as they have since the bye week.

[HBMC]

If that were the case, holding would probably be called at a 75% clip and stadiums would have to provide sleeping bags and vivarin for the snooze fests.


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[CC_123]

So whos tops in the NFC right now? Dal looked vulnerable tonight.

Still Dallas. The reason I say this is because they don't have to play defenses like Seattle and Minnesota every game. If the end up seeing Seattle or Minnesota (if we somehow squeak into the postseason) in the playoffs, they could get knocked off, but besides those two, the rest of the NFC defenses are average and they perform really well against average defenses, as we've seen.

[Siberian13]

So whos tops in the NFC right now? Dal looked vulnerable tonight.

Falcons!!!! I can dream :)

[Siberian13]

lets just be honest... ... ...

THE DALLAS COWBOYS ARE LIT !!!!!!

Randy Gregory wishes he wasnt

[CC_123]

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This is inexcusable to miss, especially late in the game. This is why I, and many others, have called for full time officials instead of part timers. This is one of many horrendous calls "missed" this season. The NFL needs to do something about it instead of just sending letters of apology.

[HBMC]

So whos tops in the NFC right now? Dal looked vulnerable tonight.

Atlanta is the only team that scares me as they can score a lot in little time, but they cannot stop good offenses. The Eagles choked them off by holding onto the ball and putting pressure on Ryan.

Seattle's Defense is still good, but it isn't the defense it was 3 years ago (injuries have definitely contributed to that lately), they aren't getting the consistent turnovers they did or the pressure like they did. Their offense is not very consistent and without a running game, Wilson is forced to carry the load in a way that is not conducive to the team's long term success IMO.

Detroit is a giant question mark of a team, they have had to pull off comebacks in every win and have been down going into the 4th all 11 games. That is both troubling and comforting as a fan of another squad.

The Giants have 8 wins by a combined 40 points, with 1 point victories over the Bengals and Cowboys, a FG victory over the Saints and a 4 point victory over the Ravens. They are winning, but it is never pretty. Their Defense is good, but with all the talent the Offense has, they are a liability at times.

The Redskins are a confounding team, they are No.2 in the NFL with regards to offense between the 20's, but near the bottom of the league in Red Zone efficiency. Their Defense is adequate, but they can be scored upon.

The Vikings are about 5/8th's of a team. Their Defense is good-to-great at all levels, their Special Teams is a question mark and the Offense is limited when healthy and almost toothless without a real Running Game.

[TheFrenzy]

So whos tops in the NFC right now? Dal looked vulnerable tonight.

The sheer consistency of the Cowboys have to put them at the top. If the NFL playoffs were a best of 5 or best of 7 series, there wouldn't even be a point in betting against the Cowboys......

.....but the playoffs aren't like that. I'd still keep an eye on Atlanta and New York. As far as NFC SB champions, I'd put it at:

Cowboys - 50%
NY Giants - 25%
Atlanta Falcons - 10%
Seattle Seahawks - 10%
Everyone else - 5%

I could very easily see a third Giants > Patriots SB happening.

I actually don't hate the Cowboys (anymore). I enjoy watching Dak play, I've liked Zeke since college, and watching the offensive line bully defenses around is entertaining. I just think there was some calls that should've been called against Dallas but werent, but even so, the Vikings shot themselves in the foot. They couldn't capitalize on turnovers, they had some key drops, and the most painful one, Thielen fumbles in a bad spot. Honestly, if Thielen doesn't fumble, Minnesota likely wins with just kicking FGs and the final probably would've been 12-7 or 12-10 in favor of Minnesota. But when it comes down to it, the Vikings have to get into the end zone and not rely on their kicker and defense as much as they have since the bye week.

Yeah, that's the shortcoming of social media and forums. I know where you're coming from. Were this a single-elimination playoff game, I'd give great odds to Minnesota or Detroit or Atlanta or the Giants or the Seahawks. It's a double-edged sword down here in Big D - go with the QB who's unlikely to get you into a multi-score deficit but hasn't yet demonstrated that he can lead the kind of downfield comeback that is needed in such situations versus the QB who might be more likely to get you into such situations, but has repeatedly demonstrated that he can overcome any deficit as long as their is time on the clock.

[IronMonkey415]

Oh they won, that's great. I was busy and missed this thread.

[rman112]

Randy Gregory wishes he wasnt

"Huh? What?"

- Randy Gregory

[LCM1223]

#@#@#@#@ refs

[TheFrenzy]

#@#@#@#@ refs

The Cowboy have suffered enough at the hands of NY-based referees. It's time for Dallas to shine.

[Boo]

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This is inexcusable to miss, especially late in the game. This is why I, and many others, have called for full time officials instead of part timers. This is one of many horrendous calls "missed" this season. The NFL needs to do something about it instead of just sending letters of apology.

FT refs will not change ANYTHING! They are humans and will continue to miss things, either on purpose or in error...:coffee::coffee::coffee:

[byronscott4ever]

I'm sure the league will issue a standard whoops we missed one on the 2 pt conversion. I'm still pleasantly surprised how the Vikings stayed with the Cowboys.

[TinCastleMusic]

I'm sure the league will issue a standard whoops we missed one on the 2 pt conversion. I'm still pleasantly surprised how the Vikings stayed with the Cowboys.

I'm with you here. We've come to a point in the season where just being competitive is an issue, and we hung with the "best" team in the league the whole way through. Aside from a few big time blunders, we had them.

After the past few weeks, as a die-hard fan of the team, I know that it just isn't going to happen this year. If you step back and take a look at the ridiculousness of what has happened this season, the fact that we have ANY wins is a miracle! Starting QB down a week before the season starts, starting RB done in Week 2, the supposedly rebuilt O-Line decimated to the point of signing new fill-ins every other week (we have started 11 so far...), Turner resigns after two losses out of nowhere, hell, even Zimmer's freakish retina-detachment stuff...adversity is one thing, but this is utterly insane, ha!

I say work on what we can the rest of the way through, and let's start working towards next year. The pieces will still be in place, but we can't go deep in the playoffs with the duct-taped together team we have this season, just isn't going to happen. Plus, MN gets the Super Bowl at home next year anyways, that's the one we want to be in, ha! SKOL!!!

[matt060488]

Funny how the NFL comes out and says starting next year they will have full time officials with one official just watching QB hits..and then end the game with controversial "QB hit"

[wheeler281]

Bradford just would have been sacked the next play. The refs just saved everyone's time

Minnesota's fans moral victories is a good read though

[CC_123]

FT refs will not change ANYTHING! They are humans and will continue to miss things, either on purpose or in error...:coffee::coffee::coffee:

Full time officials would make a positive step when being an NFL official is all they are doing and focusing on. Versus now where you have lawyers, teachers, businessmen out there reffing.

[CC_123]

Bradford just would have been sacked the next play. The refs just saved everyone's time

Minnesota's fans moral victories is a good read though

Whether Bradford would've been sacked or not, it still has to be called because you never know. Last year Aaron Rodgers got a face mask call from a single finger going inside the mask, Bradford gets raked across the face and it's a no call? They saw it happen, they just didn't want to get yelled at by any of the Cowboys.

[PGS]

Whether Bradford would've been sacked or not, it still has to be called because you never know. Last year Aaron Rodgers got a face mask call from a single finger going inside the mask, Bradford gets raked across the face and it's a no call? They saw it happen, they just didn't want to get yelled at by any of the Cowboys.

That's because he's a Packer... The league loves when they win. I'm surprised the
'Fail Mary" refs haven't been "taken care of" by Goodell's buddies.

I think last weeks Monday night game added credence to that theory.

[wheeler281]

Whether Bradford would've been sacked or not, it still has to be called because you never know. Last year Aaron Rodgers got a face mask call from a single finger going inside the mask, Bradford gets raked across the face and it's a no call? They saw it happen, they just didn't want to get yelled at by any of the Cowboys.

The guy behind that had the angle was looking at the ball headed toward the back of the end zone. He should be looking at the qb at all times. Ben never gets that call either so probably why I am numb to the whole thing. One year his nose got broken badly. Blood flowing and looking all sideways and ref looks all mad for even being questioned on it

Man I hope the Steelers get another shot at the boys

[CC_123]

The guy behind that had the angle was looking at the ball headed toward the back of the end zone. He should be looking at the qb at all times. Ben never gets that call either so probably why I am numb to the whole thing. One year his nose got broken badly. Blood flowing and looking all sideways and ref looks all mad for even being questioned on it

Man I hope the Steelers get another shot at the boys

This is why I am saying the NFL needs full time officials. It can't hurt.

You can tell when officials favor a team over another in a game too. Just one play, Patterson gets called for a touchy offensive PI early in the game. Later in the game Terrance Williams full out extends both arms and pushes the Vikings CB and nothing is called. Treadwell, in the red zone, was also trying to run a comeback route but was held on the break so he couldn't make it, but it wasn't called. And lastly, on Dak's scamble that ended up being short of the 1st, behind the play, Robison was chasing and the offensive lineman grabbed him by the shoulders FROM BEHIND and threw him to the ground. Officials cannot miss such blatant calls as these. The part timers lack consistency. It hasn't just been this game either and it hasn't just been Vikings games. Its been EVERY game this year that I have watched and I watch A LOT of football.

[bewareof94]

This is why I am saying the NFL needs full time officials. It can't hurt.

You can tell when officials favor a team over another in a game too. Just one play, Patterson gets called for a touchy offensive PI early in the game. Later in the game Terrance Williams full out extends both arms and pushes the Vikings CB and nothing is called. Treadwell, in the red zone, was also trying to run a comeback route but was held on the break so he couldn't make it, but it wasn't called. And lastly, on Dak's scamble that ended up being short of the 1st, behind the play, Robison was chasing and the offensive lineman grabbed him by the shoulders FROM BEHIND and threw him to the ground. Officials cannot miss such blatant calls as these. The part timers lack consistency. It hasn't just been this game either and it hasn't just been Vikings games. Its been EVERY game this year that I have watched and I watch A LOT of football.

To play devil's advocate, you could easily argue that the Vikings got the better treatment as far as calls go in that the Cowboys 2 biggest plays of the first half (Damien Wilson interception in Vikings territory, Zeke 40+ yard run down into basically the red zone) were nullified by iffy, borderline calls that went the Vikings way.

Had those not been called, you could really make the case that the Cowboys have a 10-14 point lead going into halftime if they at least get field goals out of those situations.

[lambeauleap87]

This board has just been full of conspiracy theories lately. I'm gonna need to reinforce my tinfoil hat.

[HBMC]

To play devil's advocate, you could easily argue that the Vikings got the better treatment as far as calls go in that the Cowboys 2 biggest plays of the first half (Damien Wilson interception in Vikings territory, Zeke 40+ yard run down into basically the red zone) were nullified by iffy, borderline calls that went the Vikings way.

Had those not been called, you could really make the case that the Cowboys have a 10-14 point lead going into halftime if they at least get field goals out of those situations.

Which is why carping about referee calls is the weakest form of justification of poor play. I am going to go back and see how many plays Zeke has had called back thanks to holding due to backside penalties. Maybe then the NFL will credit him with those rushing yards and he can break Dickerson's record faster. ;)

[bewareof94]

Which is why carping about referee calls is the weakest form of justification of poor play. I am going to go back and see how many plays Zeke has had called back thanks to holding due to backside penalties. Maybe then the NFL will credit him with those rushing yards and he can break Dickerson's record faster. ;)

Exactly - There were at least 4-5 drives and big plays (as I referenced above) that were either stymied before they got started or completely nullified by borderline calls going against the Cowboys. I don't see any Cowboys fans complaining that the refs took points off the board for them and how they should have easily handled the Vikings last night if it just weren't for petty calls that were actually called against them.

[HBMC]

Exactly - There were at least 4-5 drives and big plays (as I referenced above) that were either stymied before they got started or completely nullified by borderline calls going against the Cowboys. I don't see any Cowboys fans complaining that the refs took points off the board for them and how they should have easily handled the Vikings last night if it just weren't for petty calls that were actually called against them.

How about the field flipping 60+ yard run against the Eagles? That game may have not been nearly as close with that backside flag picked up. The list is endless.

[TinCastleMusic]

Exactly - There were at least 4-5 drives and big plays (as I referenced above) that were either stymied before they got started or completely nullified by borderline calls going against the Cowboys. I don't see any Cowboys fans complaining that the refs took points off the board for them and how they should have easily handled the Vikings last night if it just weren't for petty calls that were actually called against them.

Why would the team on the winning end of a game EVER complain about calls ??!??! If there are fans of ANY team out there complaining about bad/missed calls after a win...well, that is just an entirely different problem altogether, ha! Come on, we all know that no matter which team we root for, we NEVER get the calls that we want.

Aside from that, the real problem here is the fact that the last call wasn't made after the Bradford head hit, and had it not been for the VERY similar Rodgers re-do last season, no one would have said anything about it. The fact is though, and it is hard to argue, the Rodgers one shouldn't have been called...yet was. And the Bradford one, which was much more obvious and blatant, was not. I don't know if having a way to review those types of plays in the last 2 minutes would be the way to go, but it needs to be fair all around.

No, it was much more than that one play that gave the Vikings a loss, but it's hard not to think that the NFL is protecting certain QBs and not others...or maybe we all can't whine as well as some of them to get those calls.