USPS Rate Increase - January 22, 2017 [Archive]

LRV

12-17-2016, 01:27 PM

Its that time of year where USPS rates go up again.. :(

I use Stamps.com but PayPal and Ebay usually will be the same.

For the 1st Class Packages 1 to 4 oz. will go up one cent to $2.61 and 5 to 8 oz. will be $2.77. No more of the same pricing on 1-8 oz as it currently is.

Also, all of the Priority Mail Flat Rate prices are increasing..

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New USPS Retail Rates For 1st Class Parcels:

http://blog.stamps.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/FCM.png

And the new rates for 1st Class Parcels online:

http://blog.stamps.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/FCPS.png

wethenorth

12-17-2016, 01:28 PM

again????? :mad::mad:

hairysasquatch

12-17-2016, 07:57 PM

again????? :mad::mad:

Getting to point of ridiculousness.

Seems to be about quarterly.

Saraste

12-17-2016, 09:12 PM

By 2025 it will be $5.00 per ounce. :doh:

Nyfancam01

12-17-2016, 09:13 PM

dear god.
online card trading will come to an end thanks to the good ole USPS. smh

jdandns

12-17-2016, 09:30 PM

For single card packages, i.e., an ounce or two, USPS still utterly destroys UPS and FedEx pricing.

duwal

12-17-2016, 10:58 PM

eh, no biggie

Davesportscards

12-17-2016, 11:47 PM

This is ridiculous.

Miss Lizzy

12-17-2016, 11:54 PM

This is ridiculous.

Agreed.
Wonder how much that extra penny adds up to?

paparoke

12-18-2016, 11:37 AM

It's bad enough that Ebay already charges 10% off of your shipping cost. Still don't know how that is even legal.

cruiserdaddy7

12-18-2016, 02:12 PM

1 cent to ship a single card or two. I can live with that.

If you guys aren't fond of it, starr using UPS or FedEx and let us know how your bottom line looks.

BoxBreaker72

12-18-2016, 05:44 PM

It will soon get to the point where you lose 30% of each sale with ebay/paypal/shipping fees...

Paypal is long overdue to raise their cut % as well.

Cavaliercards

12-18-2016, 05:44 PM

It will soon get to the point where you lose 40% of each sale with ebay/paypal/shipping fees...

Paypal is long overdue to raise their cut % as well.

Shh don't say such things.

Screamer

12-19-2016, 02:58 PM

It will soon get to the point where you lose 30% of each sale with ebay/paypal/shipping fees...

Paypal is long overdue to raise their cut % as well.

Paypal has enough competition to keep their rate the same. When it comes to sports cards, USPS and eBay have none. So their prices to us will continue to go up

Chris Henderson

12-20-2016, 02:34 PM

A couple cent increase for cards isn't bad but those Priority rates are making it tough selling comics.

shrevecity

12-21-2016, 06:25 PM

And get ready for the posts on January 22nd saying they never heard anything about this increase before. Saying its all Ebays fault and all that good stuff. If you look back it will most likely be the same posters as last year.

Screamer

12-21-2016, 07:27 PM

Has anyone seen eBay post about this? They usually do but I haven't received anything from them

LRV

12-21-2016, 08:56 PM

Has anyone seen eBay post about this? They usually do but I haven't received anything from them

Probably won't say anything until after the fact like they did for last January's USPS increase. For those that don't remember they gave NO discount and was charging regular USPS retail rates for several weeks.

Stamps.com and the other online postage companies gave the discount from day one and eventually ebay did the same.

Screamer

12-22-2016, 01:57 PM

Probably won't say anything until after the fact like they did for last January's USPS increase. For those that don't remember they gave NO discount and was charging regular USPS retail rates for several weeks.

Stamps.com and the other online postage companies gave the discount from day one and eventually ebay did the same.

A-hole eBay killing their sellers once again

shrevecity

12-22-2016, 02:15 PM

A-hole eBay killing their sellers once again

How does Ebay get blamed for USPS increases. The issue last year had to do with the USPS at first deciding to do away with the online discount then within a few days of it being implemented they decided to issue the online discount after all.

Even months after the USPS was upcharging many packages that were in the 13 to 16oz range to priority because they were never informed that this was an online price point. If you go tothe counter even now with a 13oz package you will get charged for priority.

Screamer

12-22-2016, 02:27 PM

How does Ebay get blamed for USPS increases. The issue last year had to do with the USPS at first deciding to do away with the online discount then within a few days of it being implemented they decided to issue the online discount after all.

Even months after the USPS was upcharging many packages that were in the 13 to 16oz range to priority because they were never informed that this was an online price point. If you go tothe counter even now with a 13oz package you will get charged for priority.

You didn't read the previous post... Stamps.com had the discount from day one, which means they were looking out for their customers. eBay played catch up bcuz they are and always will be the redheaded stepchild of Amazon

Cavaliercards

12-22-2016, 02:30 PM

How does Ebay get blamed for USPS increases. The issue last year had to do with the USPS at first deciding to do away with the online discount then within a few days of it being implemented they decided to issue the online discount after all.

Even months after the USPS was upcharging many packages that were in the 13 to 16oz range to priority because they were never informed that this was an online price point. If you go tothe counter even now with a 13oz package you will get charged for priority.

Went to the Post Office several times with Pre-Printed Packages to get scanned in that were 14-15-16 oz packages and was told had to upgrade so much I saved the website on my phone to show them. One worker argued with me as recently as June that I was wrong and that wasn't a real website.

At one point online you could go to 16 oz, but it was 13 oz still at the counter, has it become 16 across the board?

chezball

12-22-2016, 02:34 PM

hairysasquatch

12-22-2016, 02:45 PM

Stamps.com charges $15.99 a month so they aren't doing you any favors.

Zoinks! Rat's a riproff, Raggy!

shrevecity

12-22-2016, 02:48 PM

You didn't read the previous post... Stamps.com had the discount from day one, which means they were looking out for their customers. eBay played catch up bcuz they are and always will be the redheaded stepchild of Amazon

Stamps.com has a different agreement with USPS they were going to be allowed to give the discount regardless, and their software had been updated already. Even regular stamps are cheaper through Stamps.com. After the change if you went directly to the USPS online site you were billed full retail for online purchases just like Ebay was charging, that is the system Ebay connects to so until it was corrected it was going to reflect.

If a few cents is going to kill you then you probably should not be selling online. I heard about this when it was proposed in September but never saw an official increase chart so was not worth posting. At that point though I raised all my shipping costs by 25 cents or 50 cents depending on the item so I would be set for it

shrevecity

12-22-2016, 02:50 PM

Went to the Post Office several times with Pre-Printed Packages to get scanned in that were 14-15-16 oz packages and was told had to upgrade so much I saved the website on my phone to show them. One worker argued with me as recently as June that I was wrong and that wasn't a real website.

At one point online you could go to 16 oz, but it was 13 oz still at the counter, has it become 16 across the board?

Its online up to 15.9oz. If you put a package at 16oz on Ebay it says 15.9, before it carries over to priority. If you go to the counter if its over 13oz you have to ship priority.

shrevecity

12-22-2016, 04:09 PM

Shipping Carrier Rate Changes Coming Soon - ebay01 (http://community.ebay.com/t5/Announcements/Shipping-Carrier-Rate-Changes-Coming-Soon/bc-p/26351466#M2284)

Ebay announced it on the 15th

LRV

12-22-2016, 06:22 PM

Stamps.com charges $15.99 a month so they aren't doing you any favors.

Ebay only accounts are free..

For me personally the ability to print a USPS scan form for whichever shipments I choose, which you can't do with Ebay / PayPal where you have to print the scan form at the same time as each label, is a plus.

Also, during the last year of using Stamps.Com which automatically corrects addresses when printing & has IMPD barcodes on the labels, it just seems as on a whole packages are being delivered more timely.

As for the USPS rates ONLY going up a few cents, no its not a big deal, but when you're already paying nearly 10k a year on postage which I did last year it starts to get a little much..

LRV

01-21-2017, 03:11 PM

New USPS Retail Rates For 1st Class Parcels:

http://blog.stamps.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/FCM.png

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And the new rates for 1st Class Parcels online:

http://blog.stamps.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/FCPS.png

shrevecity

01-21-2017, 03:31 PM

Over and under come Monday of the peopel saying they were never told of a rate increase?

Frankp2311

01-22-2017, 01:19 PM

USPS flat rate and regional rate used to be the way to go on heavier items that would fit in the respective boxes. Now FedEx is slowly becoming a cheaper option and this increase will only open the divide further. The last 6 months of 2016 I did about 55% more labels through FedEx and saved hundreds of dollars compared to USPS prices. I am not selling cards and most of my packages are over 3 pounds.

Its a no brainer when FedEx can get a 10 pound package to rural Colorado for $12 and USPS wants $35. Just one recent example.

Sharard

01-22-2017, 02:33 PM

It's bad enough that Ebay already charges 10% off of your shipping cost. Still don't know how that is even legal.

Thank the people that charged 99 n cents for an item and 20 dollars for first class shipping way back for a card to circumvent ebay fees.

Just got easier to charge the 10 percent on shipping than chase all the people doing this.

Frankp2311

01-22-2017, 02:45 PM

It's bad enough that Ebay already charges 10% off of your shipping cost. Still don't know how that is even legal.

Adjust your prices accordingly to offset it. Maybe a little harder for those who sell cards though since card buyers like to nickel dime. They are so focused on the buyers it wouldn't even surprise me if Ebay made Free Shipping mandatory in the future.

Branesergen

01-22-2017, 07:13 PM

Adjust your prices accordingly to offset it. Maybe a little harder for those who sell cards though since card buyers like to nickel dime. They are so focused on the buyers it wouldn't even surprise me if Ebay made Free Shipping mandatory in the future.

It will happen, sooner than later.

coachnip13

01-22-2017, 07:20 PM

They are so focused on the buyers it wouldn't even surprise me if Ebay made Free Shipping mandatory in the future.

That would be great. Then I can just put the shipping cost into my price without trying to figure out which way to list it.

You do know that if eBay made everything "Free Shipping" that you wouldn't actually have to ship for free, right?

tattooelement

01-22-2017, 07:36 PM

Rate increase wouldn't be a big deal if ebay would get rid of the shipping cost DSR.

Sellers could then charge a proper cost without buyers nicking you for it.

As it is, $2.99 actually costs sellers money to ship. Not a lot, but it adds up.

shrevecity

01-22-2017, 08:21 PM

Frankp2311

01-22-2017, 09:50 PM

That would be great. Then I can just put the shipping cost into my price without trying to figure out which way to list it.

You do know that if eBay made everything "Free Shipping" that you wouldn't actually have to ship for free, right?

I don't follow.

Branesergen

01-22-2017, 11:35 PM

I don't follow.

Means who cares if they ding it. It doesn't affect anything other than the voices in your head. I charge $3.25 on my cards now, up from $3. Comics are $4.25 up from $3.99. Barely covers my costs after postage and fees.

Frankp2311

01-23-2017, 12:00 AM

Means who cares if they ding it. It doesn't affect anything other than the voices in your head. I charge $3.25 on my cards now, up from $3. Comics are $4.25 up from $3.99. Barely covers my costs after postage and fees.

I have no idea what you are rambling on about.

shrevecity

01-23-2017, 12:10 AM

They have said they will never make it mandatory. If they made free shipping mandatory it would likely cost them buyers. Free shipping does not promote multi-item purchases. As many sellers who charge shipping charge a flat shipping or reduced shipping when buyer make multi-item purchases. Free shipping in general is a way to trick buyers into paying more, it does not help sellers for the reasons above. It just looks good on paper like the difference between 7.99 and 8.00. If they make it mandatory they will pretty much no longer be an auction site and they have said they want to keep auctions.

With free shipping the shipping should be built into the price and that price is passed in full to all items purchased.

Branesergen

01-23-2017, 01:02 AM

I have no idea what you are rambling on about.

LOL Me either apparently. Was thinking one topic and typing another. Nevermind me lol

coachnip13

01-23-2017, 10:06 AM

I don't follow.

Just because eBay doesn't allow you to charge a separate shipping fee doesn't mean that you won't add a shipping fee to your items. If anything, it hurts the buyers who would normally take advantage of shipping discounts.

If a card currently sells for $20 plus $3 shipping, some people list it for $20 + $3, while others list it for $23. If eBay takes away shipping fees, everyone will list it for $23. It doesn't affect you as a seller one bit. It just hurts the buyer who would have bought multiple cards from the $20 + $3 guy.

Frankp2311

01-23-2017, 04:27 PM

Just because eBay doesn't allow you to charge a separate shipping fee doesn't mean that you won't add a shipping fee to your items. If anything, it hurts the buyers who would normally take advantage of shipping discounts.

If a card currently sells for $20 plus $3 shipping, some people list it for $20 + $3, while others list it for $23. If eBay takes away shipping fees, everyone will list it for $23. It doesn't affect you as a seller one bit. It just hurts the buyer who would have bought multiple cards from the $20 + $3 guy.

For cards yes, but other items it would be a big deal. I use calculated shipping my stuff over 3 pounds. Hard to add in a shipping cost to the price when it's $9 to NYC and $25 to LA. This would cause me to hope that buyers on the east coast buy my items and not on the west coast. Limits what I would be able to sell so it would affect me personally as a seller.

shrevecity

01-23-2017, 04:36 PM

For cards yes, but other items it would be a big deal. I use calculated shipping my stuff over 3 pounds. Hard to add in a shipping cost to the price when it's $9 to NYC and $25 to LA. This would cause me to hope that buyers on the east coast buy my items and not on the west coast. Limits what I would be able to sell so it would affect me personally as a seller.

I sell lots of items other than cards and I utilize Flat rate and regional boxes whenever possible.