Will the Knicks trade Carmelo Anthony?

[Halbert]

Will he wave his no trade clause and head to a contender?

[Ottomatic]

Who has some equally bad contracts to trade back? I'd have to hear some options first, I honestly have no idea who would be an option.

Somebody said OKC in another thread and I didn't see any contracts they could trade for him unless they get rid of Kanter who is much better than Melo.

[drobfan8]

I would like to see if a deal could be landed.

The Clippers would be crazy enough to get him, but he'd need to accept being the 3rd best player. They have nothing to offer though.

I just don't know what they could get back. They're going to need to get worse before they get better.

[drobfan8]

Who has some equally bad contracts to trade back? I'd have to hear some options first, I honestly have no idea who would be an option.

Somebody said OKC in another thread and I didn't see any contracts they could trade for him unless they get rid of Kanter who is much better than Melo.

OKC trading for him is intriguing.

Dipo would probably be up for grabs.

[regularp]

Melo doesn't care about winning. He's not waiving his no trade clause and no contender is taking on his contract.

[JasonM32]

What contending team would be improved by adding him?

[Tarheelsfan2012]

I was gonna vote Option 3: Who wants him lol. If the Knicks can get something for him then they should deal him.

[bcus28]

Well said ^^^

If they can they should.

[dasiegel]

Odds of him getting traded... zero point zero.

He is happy in NY, his family is happy in NY, he's getting paid and the Knckcs will only naturally get better as Porzingis develops and we bring in new players.

Kinda sucks but it's what it is. We aren't bad enough for him to waive it even though to fans, we suck.

[stevenhsu]

Many teams for what I see, teams without very good offense can all use him, most of them are not contenders though.

1. 76ers
Noel might be a good bait along with some other players or draft, might get a chance to bring Melo to Philly, personally I think Melo will be a great force on offense for the 76ers, they already have enough big guys on defense end.

2. Mavs
Dirk is no more dominating, mathew is ok but not good enough, barnes is good but he's not like those pure scorer that changes the game, he can be very good as a second guy on the team.

3. Pelicans
Don't need to say too much, Pelicans is a sad team with a sad AD, they need everything and anything can help, Melo definite can help AD to lose some stress and attract more defense which can let AD do more all-around stuff also less injuries.

4. Pistons
The only pure scorer on the team is pope, Piston lacks scoring and they do need help while their point per game is 24th in the league and 23rd on 3pointers.

5. Heats ( I doubt if either Melo or Riley would like each other)
It apperas Winslow is not that good so far, compare to Pistons, Heat's offense is even more pathetic, 27th on 3pointer, 28th on Scoring and 25 on field goals.....Don't think they need Melo?

[dasiegel]

Steven everything you say makes sense but he's not leaving. It would have to get really bad objectively for him to even consider it and we'll be middle of the pack at worst the next year or two while he's under contract. He's not waiving that clause. Best chance would be the Clippers who desperately need a SF and LA is a market he may consider.

[Nyfancam01]

No.

Melo is not a winner and doesn't care about it. He cares about getting his 24 points and calling it a night. He could turn a real contender into a swept playoff team.

[the27guy]

Steven everything you say makes sense but he's not leaving. It would have to get really bad objectively for him to even consider it and we'll be middle of the pack at worst the next year or two while he's under contract. He's not waiving that clause.

Right. The only way he leaves is miraculously if a contender sees a need for him - and has space for him - or the relationship completely breaks down.

Both are unlikely. Maybe 10% each?

[dasiegel]

Right. The only way he leaves is miraculously if a contender sees a need for him - and has space for him - or the relationship completely breaks down.

Both are unlikely. Maybe 10% each?

There's a better chance of the Jazz coming out of the West:p:p:p

[the27guy]

There's a better chance of the Jazz coming out of the West:p:p:p

:)

I wish.

[Halbert]

I hate James Dolan so much....

[stevenhsu]

I know right...lol

I know the Knicks is not gonna let him go, and he's not going anywhere either.

What's strange is , besides KP, almost every star or star-like player who was traded to NY, never performed as well as they once were, and some of them even turned into disaster.

I liked Melo the first day he came in the league, pulled his SPX rookie autograph and jumped up and down when it was a $500 card.
But He is really miserable now in NY.

We used to think it's all Isiah Thomas and Dolan's fault, but I really doubt now, look at Phil, he looks like a terrible old man after he came.

This really looks bad, that's why we just dream if Melo ever get a chance to be traded anywhere else.

Steven everything you say makes sense but he's not leaving. It would have to get really bad objectively for him to even consider it and we'll be middle of the pack at worst the next year or two while he's under contract. He's not waiving that clause. Best chance would be the Clippers who desperately need a SF and LA is a market he may consider.

[xavieronly1]

What's strange is , besides KP, almost every star or star-like player who was traded to NY, never performed as well as they once were, and some of them even turned into disaster.


Stoudemire was the MVP before he went down. Carmelo still played well for many years. Tyson Chandler was the DPOY. JR Smith was the 6th man of the year. Many of them had their "career" year when they played in the Knicks.

It is just that the injuries and bad coach turning the team into a bad shape.

As for Bargnani, Noah or Rose, they are average (or even bad) players when they were before. There is no expectation for them to play better once they were in Knicks uniform.

[Wolves4Life]

If he didn't have his family in NY he would leave. Remember that's why he wanted to leave Denver in the first place cause of family.

[dasiegel]

If he didn't have his family in NY he would leave. Remember that's why he wanted to leave Denver in the first place cause of family.

This is fact.

As far as Phil goes, he is far from perfect and has been a distraction and made his typical dumb comments throughout his stay.

BUT

You can't say the Knicks don't have enough talent to be competitive. We were 14-10 not too long ago and we obviously have some proven names; Melo, Rose, Noah, KP, and vets like O'Quinn, Lee, Jennings etc.

I think this is way more about heart and effort than anything else. The guys seem to root for each other and the ball does move when it doesn't stop at the Melo hotel on the wing.

This isn't about gelling or talent. It's about hustle, effort and desire.

The team has the talent to be a 50 win team and the same team without trying can be a 35 win team. Unfortunately, we are not good enough with this roster to be a top 3 East team either way.

[tennelson55]

You can't say the Knicks don't have enough talent to be competitive. We were 14-10 not too long ago and we obviously have some proven names; Melo, Rose, Noah, KP, and vets like O'Quinn, Lee, Jennings etc.

This isn't about gelling or talent. It's about hustle, effort and desire.

The team has the talent to be a 50 win team and the same team without trying can be a 35 win team. Unfortunately, we are not good enough with this roster to be a top 3 East team either way.

Why do you think they're a 50 win team. #@#@#@#@ iverson/Chauncey, Kenyon Martin, nene, jr smith and melo were the 8th seed in the west.
I expected this team to get at most 45 wins and probably hit the 500 mark. They have a player in Rose who's using a knee that's gone through hell, melo who hasn't accomplished anything in the NBA and a rookie who's up and coming. You then have Noah who's all hustle and posses no offensive threat and Lee who's a shooter. They need a person to drive and kick and they don't have a player who can create a shot for other players consistently.

The Knicks have tried with melo and amare, it didn't work, and they will continue to fall on their faces as long as they continue to sign washed up vets

[phdbeckett]

Find a way using multiple teams to send Melo to NO, Tyreke Evans to NYC, and somehow get Tim Frazier to the Cavs.

[dasiegel]

Why do you think they're a 50 win team. #@#@#@#@ iverson/Chauncey, Kenyon Martin, nene, jr smith and melo were the 8th seed in the west.
I expected this team to get at most 45 wins and probably hit the 500 mark. They have a player in Rose who's using a knee that's gone through hell, melo who hasn't accomplished anything in the NBA and a rookie who's up and coming. You then have Noah who's all hustle and posses no offensive threat and Lee who's a shooter. They need a person to drive and kick and they don't have a player who can create a shot for other players consistently.

The Knicks have tried with melo and amare, it didn't work, and they will continue to fall on their faces as long as they continue to sign washed up vets

I don't think they are a 50 win team I think if playing well and hard they could be. They were 14-10. If the season played out with that same type of play they would be a 48 win team... is 50 too off as a max?

I agree Rose isn't MVP Rose but he has played very well. Melo has been Melo, Porzingis improved. The role players improved. There is no reason in the East that they can't be a top 4 team. And I say that in a way where it sucks for me as a fan and it's sad that they aren't.

Atlanta is the 4 seed. Who do they have? Millsap? Shroder? Dwight? We just split with the Bucks so we can obviously play on that level. The Hornets are ahead of us and they have Kemba, Batum and a bunch of role players.

This all comes down to effort as far as this recent pathetic slide. It's not like we don't have the talent to be a mid level Eastern conference team. But what really sucks as a fan is that our ceiling is upper mediocrity which doesn't get you a title or a great pick.

[SethMurphy]

I would say no. Melo had a chance to go to Boston last season at the deadline and vetoed the deal. The Celtics were a playoff team and have a bright future with a young roster.

If Melo won't go to Boston, he proved he has no intentions on sacrificing his spotlight to win a title at the NBA level.

[pnft17]

No one wants him and he makes too
Much. Has negative trade value. Unless Knicks want trash and bad contracts back.

[bkcardcollector]

I think the Knicks are due for a turn around. The Rose thing woke them up abit. They have the pieces, really hoping they can put it together and for Melo to put in the effort he showed last game. There really is no better fit for him.

[Halbert]

James Dolan needs to fire himself. If we ever get a new owner, then and only then do the Knicks have a chance at becoming. good franchise again

[imbluestreak23]

Jordan Brand should drop him.

They shouldn't sign bros that lose.

[BBallCT]

I voted yes although I prefer no

Some contenders could definitely use him and he might want to start to chase at this point in his career, which is all good. I respect that he stayed in NY instead of bolting last time

[imbluestreak23]

Carmelo Anthony: If Phil Jackson wants me gone, let’s talk | New York Post (http://nypost.com/2017/01/15/carmelo-anthony-if-phil-jackson-wants-me-gone-lets-talk/)

Jackson needs to go full blown 310 to Yuma on this money pit and get rid of this malignant, crybaby sore loser. Go ride a banana boat with the rest of Bron's posse. Flash those rings Jackson, put this child in his place and move him for whatever you can.

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[the27guy]

Carmelo Anthony: If Phil Jackson wants me gone, let’s talk | New York Post (http://nypost.com/2017/01/15/carmelo-anthony-if-phil-jackson-wants-me-gone-lets-talk/)

Jackson needs to go full blown 310 to Yuma on this money pit and get rid of this malignant, crybaby sore loser. Go ride a banana boat with the rest of Bron's posse. Flash those rings Jackson, put this child in his place and move him for whatever you can.

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Id love it if this was more than empty words.

But it's something. Lots of teams have dead money that's coming off the books. Is that enough?

[ninjacookies]

I think the problem with the Knicks organization in this situation is multi-fold:

1) Melo is old. He's at that age where he needs to take off nights for 'maintenance' purposes, much like Wade

2) Melo is cancer. Stage 4 Melanoma. We know who Melo is. And we've known it for over a decade now. Despite Karl's poorly chosen and brash wording....when there's smoke, there's usually fire.

3) He's having one of his worst shooting years of his career. Father time is catching up and he no longer has the quickness or explosion to shake opposing wings on a consistent basis. The league is getting younger...he is not.

4) He does not defend. He may get a block, steal or two, but make no mistake about it...he's a terrible defender.

5) He can't even fill the seats in the Garden, and arguably isn't even the top draw on his team anymore. Perspective teams no longer view him as the ROI cash cow that he may have been half a decade ago.

6) Even the worst teams in the league record wise now have their own franchise players that they're building around, further decreasing the luster of taking a high $$ risk on an ailing talent like Melo. Philly has Embiid, Kings have Cousins, Lakers have D-Lo, Bucks have Giannis...list goes on and on.

7) Melo does not work with Zingod. You look at the correlations when both of them share the court, and it's no bueno. One or the other has a good game, very rarely do they both. Zingod deserves consistently high shot attempts with his talent and nightly size advantage...Melo does not not.


The Knicks need to cut their losses and take whatever they can get for Melo at this point. You'd think they'd have learned by now dealing overbloated salaries to aging or middling talent. Starburry, Curry, Linsanity, Melo. It's in the DNA.

[drobfan8]

Bill Simmons put up a trade which I can only believe is satire.

I think The Clips got Melo

Lakers got Pierce and Griffin

NY got Clarkson, Ingram and Nance

I actually think the Clips are very good without Griffin. But Melo probably isn't the answer.

The lakers are giving up too much though. Ingram looks to be a stud in future years.

[regularp]

Bill Simmons put up a trade which I can only believe is satire.

I think The Clips got Melo

Lakers got Pierce and Griffin

NY got Clarkson, Ingram and Nance

I actually think the Clips are very good without Griffin. But Melo probably isn't the answer.

The lakers are giving up too much though. Ingram looks to be a stud in future years.

Simmons trades are the absolute worst.

[drobfan8]

Simmons trades are the absolute worst.

Ha ha, I haven't seen many, but this was a no brainer.

Apparently a bunch of GMs recently agree on the top 20 players under 21 (may have been 23) years old and they all reckon the Lakers have 3 and are in terrific shape for the future.

I rate Griffin but I wouldn't give up Ingram to get him.

[Halbert]

The problem with the Knicks organization is James Dolan. As long as that guy is in charge, Knicks will be a joke

[Halbert]

things are getting interesting....

[asujbl]

things are getting interesting....

Interesting because it sounds like no one has any interest in Carmelo unless they can give up random parts?

[Halbert]

Interesting because it sounds like no one has any interest in Carmelo unless they can give up random parts?

Well yeah talks have heated up a lot recently. trading Melo would be interesting. interesting to me at least

[nvd001]

Melo literally carrying the knicks on his shoulders through 2OT under he was fouled out (i'm not watching live, only box scores and twitter updates) but sounds like he was rather unlucky with some 'no foul' calls and then had some 'questionable' calls go against him...

[CubKings]

Yeah, sucks he fouled out. Had 45 points. Now it's in a 4th OT...

[the27guy]

Yeah, sucks he fouled out. Had 45 points. Now it's in a 4th OT...

Man..... errebody is fouled out.

[IronMonkey415]

One of the best game in years.

[nvd001]

38 team fouls to 24?!?

[CubKings]

Man..... errebody is fouled out.

For real. Knicks bout out of players if this keeps going.

[chris43]

Many teams for what I see, teams without very good offense can all use him, most of them are not contenders though.

1. 76ers
Noel might be a good bait along with some other players or draft, might get a chance to bring Melo to Philly, personally I think Melo will be a great force on offense for the 76ers, they already have enough big guys on defense end.

2. Mavs
Dirk is no more dominating, mathew is ok but not good enough, barnes is good but he's not like those pure scorer that changes the game, he can be very good as a second guy on the team.

3. Pelicans
Don't need to say too much, Pelicans is a sad team with a sad AD, they need everything and anything can help, Melo definite can help AD to lose some stress and attract more defense which can let AD do more all-around stuff also less injuries.

4. Pistons
The only pure scorer on the team is pope, Piston lacks scoring and they do need help while their point per game is 24th in the league and 23rd on 3pointers.

5. Heats ( I doubt if either Melo or Riley would like each other)
It apperas Winslow is not that good so far, compare to Pistons, Heat's offense is even more pathetic, 27th on 3pointer, 28th on Scoring and 25 on field goals.....Don't think they need Melo?

He's def on the down side of his career. He's an offensive player that doesn't play defense (as others have said I'm not even sure if he cares about winning). Plus he has a nice fat contract. I can't see him turning any of the above teams into contenders even in the East...so why would they want him?

However I will admit that I've never been a fan of his so maybe that's why I'm not seeing the light...

[clipperboy24]

Not a big Melo fan but the clipps need a big shake up so if they can really keep CP3 Blake and DJ... go for it.

[Bonaflyd]

I think the problem with the Knicks organization in this situation is multi-fold:

1) Melo is old. He's at that age where he needs to take off nights for 'maintenance' purposes, much like Wade

2) Melo is cancer. Stage 4 Melanoma. We know who Melo is. And we've known it for over a decade now. Despite Karl's poorly chosen and brash wording....when there's smoke, there's usually fire.

3) He's having one of his worst shooting years of his career. Father time is catching up and he no longer has the quickness or explosion to shake opposing wings on a consistent basis. The league is getting younger...he is not.

4) He does not defend. He may get a block, steal or two, but make no mistake about it...he's a terrible defender.

5) He can't even fill the seats in the Garden, and arguably isn't even the top draw on his team anymore. Perspective teams no longer view him as the ROI cash cow that he may have been half a decade ago.

6) Even the worst teams in the league record wise now have their own franchise players that they're building around, further decreasing the luster of taking a high $$ risk on an ailing talent like Melo. Philly has Embiid, Kings have Cousins, Lakers have D-Lo, Bucks have Giannis...list goes on and on.

7) Melo does not work with Zingod. You look at the correlations when both of them share the court, and it's no bueno. One or the other has a good game, very rarely do they both. Zingod deserves consistently high shot attempts with his talent and nightly size advantage...Melo does not not.


The Knicks need to cut their losses and take whatever they can get for Melo at this point. You'd think they'd have learned by now dealing overbloated salaries to aging or middling talent. Starburry, Curry, Linsanity, Melo. It's in the DNA.

Agree with everything pretty much except number #2

melo does not require nearly as much "rest" as wade...wade takes a few days off a week and sometimes rests on back to backs..melo doesn't require even a fraction of the maintenance wade does...melo is also scoring 23.1 ppg which is higher then superstars like Paul George karl Anthony towns Kyle Lowry and John wall..and currently 17th in the entire NBA.. anthony is STILL an elite scorer ...the only reason more teams aren't a knocking for melo is becuase he has a no trade cause and will only play for a select few ie. cavs and clippers, who have literally nothing to offer of substance

[Bonaflyd]

Knicks also have zero problem filling seats in the garden, sounds like you have some deep hatred for melo

[drobfan8]

Knicks also have zero problem filling seats in the garden, sounds like you have some deep hatred for melo

Yeah I agree. NY is always gonna have tourists catching a game there for starters.

I actually think Melo is playing well. The Cavs should try and get him as long as they don't have to give up on of their best 6 players. But it's not gonna happen.

I wouldn't mind him on the Spurs but I just don't think he wants to sacrifice his numbers for anything.

[drobfan8]

Man Melo is not helping this team at all.

The home crowd is even booing him.

The Lakers are taking it to em right now. Is Melo trying to get amnestied?

He might go the same way Iverson did.

[duron]

I hope so!

[rhigh2390]

Is this true??

LeBron James of Cleveland Cavaliers pushing Kevin Love-for-Carmelo Anthony trade (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18634082/lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-pushing-kevin-love-carmelo-anthony-trade)

[Links242]

Is this true??

LeBron James of Cleveland Cavaliers pushing Kevin Love-for-Carmelo Anthony trade (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18634082/lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-pushing-kevin-love-carmelo-anthony-trade)

I hope this happens and Phil will then flip K Love to Boston for nets 1st round pick this year.

Again I know it's a long shot. I do wonder what is Bostons interest level is with love.

[shaqfan2]

Will be interesting if it happens.

[imbluestreak23]

If you're the Knicks you do that in a heartbeat.

If you're Lebron, well, you're just a dumbass.

[NYFAN2014]

Lol omg they'd funny

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[jcardstore]

Is this true??

LeBron James of Cleveland Cavaliers pushing Kevin Love-for-Carmelo Anthony trade (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18634082/lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-pushing-kevin-love-carmelo-anthony-trade)

Not a chance in hell this happens. LeBron can say he wants Melo all he wants (which I doubt he's actually doing), Grif isn't dumb enough to make such a terrible trade.

Cavs are not trading Love to the Knicks unless they get Porzingis which will obviously never happen

[rhigh2390]

Not a chance in hell this happens. LeBron can say he wants Melo all he wants (which I doubt he's actually doing), Grif isn't dumb enough to make such a terrible trade.

Cavs are not trading Love to the Knicks unless they get Porzingis which will obviously never happen

I don't think it happens either. I was just shocked when I saw that on ESPN, but lebron has already responded to it and said it's not true.

[bdoody42]

They will trade him at some point... May just not be this year