Ben Simmons Galactic !!!!!

[nastynerlens]

The same day I committed to my first pair of Sixers season tickets this happened! 3 packs into a break, Hawk blessed me with a Simmons Galactic. Screen grab from my phone and then cropped so the picture is crap.... but too excited not to share! Taking off of work to wait by the mailbox? YES.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2733/31987114933_0d51e2f89f_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/QJAjRB)Simmons_Galactic (https://flic.kr/p/QJAjRB) by Dustin Raysik (https://www.flickr.com/photos/145062790@N07/), on Flickr

[LeonfromNC]

Big time money. 1K-1.5K card?

[bankdawg]

man that is nice

[chris_ac]

That's definitely an incredibly hard to pull card. Looking for any particular galactic on the secondary market is a challenge with the new insertion ratio, so if you decide to sell, don't sell it lightly. Maybe a BIN/BO is best for now. Of course it sounds like it will be PC for you, so congrats on landing a toughie.

[thekiddfan]

2k at least on auction man

[GeechQuest]

Big time money. 1K-1.5K card?

2k at least on auction man

Not likely. The highest realized sale for a Galactic last year was a Lebron Showstoppers Galactic raw at $600. After that it was a Devin Booker Rookie Revolution BGS 9.5 just shy of $600. There were a few Showstoppers (Curry, Kobe) that did $500, along with KAT RCs that did $500.

At the height of the Galactic craze, coinciding with a rise in prices for D'Angelo Russell, I was offered $450 for mine.

The Galactics have been steadily dropping in price since around November. There were a few set chasers early bumping prices on the sets (Rookie Revolution, Showstoppers, Icons), who have since dropped out.

At the absolute HEIGHT of the Galactic craze no card could exceed $700. This card shouldn't reach $1000, but I do think it will set a Galactic record sale.

[chris_ac]

Not likely. The highest realized sale for a Galactic last year was a Lebron Showstoppers Galactic raw at $600. After that it was a Devin Booker Rookie Revolution BGS 9.5 just shy of $600. There were a few Showstoppers (Curry, Kobe) that did $500, along with KAT RCs that did $500.

At the height of the Galactic craze, coinciding with a rise in prices for D'Angelo Russell, I was offered $450 for mine.

The Galactics have been steadily dropping in price since around November. There were a few set chasers early bumping prices on the sets (Rookie Revolution, Showstoppers, Icons), who have since dropped out.

At the absolute HEIGHT of the Galactic craze no card could exceed $700. This card shouldn't reach $1000, but I do think it will set a Galactic record sale.

Actually that's slightly incorrect. I paid $750 for KAT in December on ebay. I knew it was more than the last, but didn't think I would see another one.

[SKOL28VIKINGS]

I think it would sell for $3k through a consignor eBay auction, since that's the first one to surface. That's his true RC in Revolution. Congrats on the incredible hit!

Just saw an Orange Prizm of his go for $800+

[GeechQuest]

Actually that's slightly incorrect. I paid $750 for KAT in December on ebay. I knew it was more than the last, but didn't think I would see another one.

I must have missed that one, my bad. I charted them all the time as I was searching for set needs up until a month ago.

I remember the 2 Rookie Revolutions that went for $500 a piece, but don't remember seeing $750 for the KAT.

Early on I passed on his base RC Galactic because I thought it got too steep. It didn't even crack $200.

If you bought it in December why is it not in the sales record? I know you have one, I'm just wondering (might be why I didn't chart the sale).

[cyndeeg3]

Very sweet! nice hit

[GeechQuest]

I think it would sell for $3k through a consignor eBay auction, since that's the first one to surface. That's his true RC in Revolution. Congrats on the incredible hit!

Just saw an Orange Prizm of his go for $800+

No it wouldn't. His BGS 10 Gold Prizm did $3.9K.

These things don't touch the Gold Prizms, ever. At least they haven't yet.

[Andy5]

I think it would sell for $3k through a consignor eBay auction, since that's the first one to surface. That's his true RC in Revolution. Congrats on the incredible hit!

Just saw an Orange Prizm of his go for $800+

His true Revolution RC is the base RC. Huge pull OP, I think it could reach over 1k as well.

[joan1173]

Personally, I see it going over 1000. With no NBA Uni autos, this will be one of his rookies to have and there doesn't seem to be all that many of them.

[Bruvydsb]

I've been offered $1k for my KAT

[chris_ac]

I must have missed that one, my bad. I charted them all the time as I was searching for set needs up until a month ago.

I remember the 2 Rookie Revolutions that went for $500 a piece, but don't remember seeing $750 for the KAT.

Early on I passed on his base RC Galactic because I thought it got too steep. It didn't even crack $200.

If you bought it in December why is it not in the sales record? I know you have one, I'm just wondering (might be why I didn't chart the sale).

Because the seller misspelled Galactic.

[GeechQuest]

Because the seller misspelled Galactic.

Well it didn't hurt the sale so no harm done. Just now saw it. Never charted that one.

That's the highest price I've seen paid for a Galactic, but it's the ONE CARD to have out of the product (Like the Simmons is this year). Great card!

After seeing what KAT Gold Prizms sell for against Simmons Gold Prizms I think this card will definitely eclipse that price.

[chris_ac]

Well it didn't hurt the sale so no harm done. Just now saw it. Never charted that one.

That's the highest price I've seen paid for a Galactic, but it's the ONE CARD to have out of the product (Like the Simmons is this year). Great card!

After seeing what KAT Gold Prizms sell for against Simmons Gold Prizms I think this card will definitely eclipse that price.

Yeah, I just jumped at it in case someone else was right behind me. I knew there was others interested so I went strong. I didn't beat around the bush even with the misspelled title. Didn't want to take a chance.

[TheCelticsfan29]

I wouldn't be surprised if it went for 2k

[yiguiri2002]

This is insane. KAT had a historic rookie season and his raw Galactic was around 1K. Simmons could get 2K by not playing a single minute. Wow.

Byt the way, this is totally feasible IMO. Between Galactics being more scarce and the lack of NT and Immaculate RPAs, this card can easily get 1.5 or 2K. I just think it's insane that a guy who hasn't played in the NBA can command more than a guy having one of the Top 10 rookie season of the modern era.

[kdailey4315]

Saw this pulled live. Congrats on the great card.

[rangeljon]

Yeah, I see this going +1K easily.

If you grade 9.5, who knows how high.

Rookie Rev Galactic might be worth more, though.

With them falling at 1 per master case this year instead of 1 per inner, I think that helps your cause big time.

I hit a Kobe Showstoppers Galactic last year. Had $800 offers but never took any. Got it graded instead. Came back 9... :(

Crazy enough, another guy at the LCS I submitted also had one and his graded 9.5. He sold it for $900.

[yaoming]

Beautiful card! Congrats


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[LeonfromNC]

jaylen brown sold for $500 buy it now, so the simmons is easily over 1k.

[usualsuspect]

There are two points that I feel like are VERY important here when comparing to last year. #1 is that Simmons doesn't have any autos. Guys like Towns, Zingy and Booker had tons of autos for the player collectors to chase. There is no question this makes a difference as we've seen the crazy prices from Prizm already. So comparing Simmons to those guys from last year probably isn't super accurate.

#2 is that the Galactics were 2 per Master case last year and appear to be 1 per Master case this year. This doesn't necessarily mean there are less this year as Panini could have made more of the product (highly doubtful), but it certainly will feel like there are less out there.

I suspect this Simmons would easily top $1,000 with a good chance at inching towards $2,000. I don't think it eclipses $2,000, but you never know.

[jkl165116]

Youre very lucky, i joined two of hawks breaks of the prizm cases purchasing ben simmons and have gotten about 9 ben simmons base no color... from 2 cases!!!

[yiguiri2002]

jaylen brown sold for $500 buy it now, so the simmons is easily over 1k.

There are two points that I feel like are VERY important here when comparing to last year. #1 is that Simmons doesn't have any autos. Guys like Towns, Zingy and Booker had tons of autos for the player collectors to chase. There is no question this makes a difference as we've seen the crazy prices from Prizm already. So comparing Simmons to those guys from last year probably isn't super accurate.

#2 is that the Galactics were 2 per Master case last year and appear to be 1 per Master case this year. This doesn't necessarily mean there are less this year as Panini could have made more of the product (highly doubtful), but it certainly will feel like there are less out there.

I suspect this Simmons would easily top $1,000 with a good chance at inching towards $2,000. I don't think it eclipses $2,000, but you never know.

Brown has autos and his Galactic is as expensive as Porzingis. Even with a more limited print run, that's quite amazing.

[solt0131]

Get that card out of the one touch or at least put a penny sleeve in between the card and the top portion.

[GeechQuest]

Brown has autos and his Galactic is as expensive as Porzingis. Even with a more limited print run, that's quite amazing.

Does anybody have the odds to Revolution this year? I know we had them for last year but I don't like the current look so haven't purchased any to check.

FWIW the 1 case at my LCS that was busted last weekend yielded 2 Galactics and 5 autos.

[chris_ac]

Does anybody have the odds to Revolution this year? I know we had them for last year but I don't like the current look so haven't purchased any to check.

FWIW the 1 case at my LCS that was busted last weekend yielded 2 Galactics and 5 autos.

That's a spicy case. I busted a master for the Big Game Promo and it was uneventful like most posted so far, with 4 autos and just a single Galactic. One of my autos was that pesky Kobe guy who follows me around in Panini breaks.

[LeonfromNC]

Does anybody have the odds to Revolution this year? I know we had them for last year but I don't like the current look so haven't purchased any to check.

FWIW the 1 case at my LCS that was busted last weekend yielded 2 Galactics and 5 autos.

Here you go:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a385/LC14810/57709814-9604-42DF-8679-4F8BA96262C4_zpskfikq29e.jpg (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/LC14810/media/57709814-9604-42DF-8679-4F8BA96262C4_zpskfikq29e.jpg.html)

[GeechQuest]

Thanks Leon.

Looks like the roughly the exact same odds as last year for hitting a Galactic.

[yiguiri2002]

Leon, you the man.

Knowing the print run might be harder than last season but I think it's still doable. Having one futura per inner basically made it easy last year but as I see more cases, it would be easier to know. So far:

- Rookie Galactics have the same print run as the base. Awesome!
- Looks like all inserts have the same number of Galactics too
- Base set falls around 1:171 packs. Or 0.75 Galactics per master case.
- Inserts look to be in the 1:441 packs range. That will be about 0.3 Galactics per master case.

So yeah, some people will be lucky enough to get more than 1 Galactic per master case.

[GeechQuest]

Leon, you the man.

Knowing the print run might be harder than last season but I think it's still doable. Having one futura per inner basically made it easy last year but as I see more cases, it would be easier to know. So far:

- Rookie Galactics have the same print run as the base. Awesome!
- Looks like all inserts have the same number of Galactics too
- Base set falls around 1:171 packs. Or 0.75 Galactics per master case.
- Inserts look to be in the 1:441 packs range. That will be about 0.3 Galactics per master case.

So yeah, some people will be lucky enough to get more than 1 Galactic per master case.


From the little I've seen the Master Cases still have 2 Futura Parallels, it's just that now the Futura has the chance to be 1 of your autos.

So that's 1,050 more Futura cards this year than last year.

That may not seem like a lot but at 2 per case that stretches the case run to 525 more than last year. There were approximately 1875 cases produced last year, so that would make this year approximately 2400.

15/16 - 250 card master set (base and inserts)
16/17 - 250 card master set (base and inserts)

The stretching of the case run makes it to where more cases will produce 1 Galactic, not that the Galactic print run is smaller. The odds look longer because of this as well (also the fact that they added an insert set with a Galactic).

The print run should still be the same, but the rate at what they fall will be roughly 30% shorter. There were cases last year that produced 1 Galactic as well (few and far between though). Same with the Futura, where an inner case would sometimes not produce one of these parallels. I'd expect the "1 Galactic" cases have increased greatly with the roughly 30% increase in cases it seems there was.

[Wings]

Big time money. 1K-1.5K card?

Ya if I saw it for 1k my gut would make me hit the BIN.

[wickedliquids]

Galatics = modern day PMG's.

I feel the Galatics are definitely a subset that should be held onto. I can see serious growth with these in the future.

[usualsuspect]

From the little I've seen the Master Cases still have 2 Futura Parallels, it's just that now the Futura has the chance to be 1 of your autos.

So that's 1,050 more Futura cards this year than last year.

That may not seem like a lot but at 2 per case that stretches the case run to 525 more than last year. There were approximately 1875 cases produced last year, so that would make this year approximately 2400.

15/16 - 250 card master set (base and inserts)
16/17 - 250 card master set (base and inserts)

The stretching of the case run makes it to where more cases will produce 1 Galactic, not that the Galactic print run is smaller. The odds look longer because of this as well (also the fact that they added an insert set with a Galactic).

The print run should still be the same, but the rate at what they fall will be roughly 30% shorter. There were cases last year that produced 1 Galactic as well (few and far between though). Same with the Futura, where an inner case would sometimes not produce one of these parallels. I'd expect the "1 Galactic" cases have increased greatly with the roughly 30% increase in cases it seems there was.

That all sounds right based on the odds, I just have a VERY tough time believing Panini made 30% more this year. The product went way below cost last year. Most dealers that bought this lost significant money last year. On top of that the rookies are not nearly as good. Maybe they're selling okay, but they aren't as good. There is no way dealers pre-bought this product in large quantities from Panini. So unless Panini decided to make a ton and sit on it, I have a tough time believing they made more.

I wouldn't be shocked at all if they simply made less last year than the odds stated. It could very well have been a case where they printed the pack odds in advance and then scaled back production because the orders were light. Hence the cards falling more often than they should have.

[yiguiri2002]

From the little I've seen the Master Cases still have 2 Futura Parallels, it's just that now the Futura has the chance to be 1 of your autos.

So that's 1,050 more Futura cards this year than last year.

That may not seem like a lot but at 2 per case that stretches the case run to 525 more than last year. There were approximately 1875 cases produced last year, so that would make this year approximately 2400.

15/16 - 250 card master set (base and inserts)
16/17 - 250 card master set (base and inserts)

The stretching of the case run makes it to where more cases will produce 1 Galactic, not that the Galactic print run is smaller. The odds look longer because of this as well (also the fact that they added an insert set with a Galactic).

The print run should still be the same, but the rate at what they fall will be roughly 30% shorter. There were cases last year that produced 1 Galactic as well (few and far between though). Same with the Futura, where an inner case would sometimes not produce one of these parallels. I'd expect the "1 Galactic" cases have increased greatly with the roughly 30% increase in cases it seems there was.

I think it depends on two things:

- Are Futuras really falling 2 per master case?
- Is that including autos or just base?

Last season, I didn't hear of an inner case without a Futura. Everyone I saw had: 4 Cosmic Base, 3 Sunburst Base and 1 Futura Base. I based the odds on that. Now, if there were inner cases with a different structure...that definitively messes up my numbers :doh:

Also, according to my calculations, there were 3500 Galactics for 3750 inner cases last season. So it would make sense that there were some inner cases with no Galactics or some with two (I know because i was part of a master case break with only 1).

So far this year, I think I've seen one or two inner cases with no Futura Base. I think this haven't been broken enough to make assumptions, hopefully as more people break it (and post their results!) we can figure out the print run.

[LeonfromNC]

I think it depends on two things:

- Are Futuras really falling 2 per master case?
- Is that including autos or just base?

Last season, I didn't hear of an inner case without a Futura. Everyone I saw had: 4 Cosmic Base, 3 Sunburst Base and 1 Futura Base. I based the odds on that. Now, if there were inner cases with a different structure...that definitively messes up my numbers :doh:

Also, according to my calculations, there were 3500 Galactics for 3750 inner cases last season. So it would make sense that there were some inner cases with no Galactics or some with two (I know because i was part of a master case break with only 1).

So far this year, I think I've seen one or two inner cases with no Futura Base. I think this haven't been broken enough to make assumptions, hopefully as more people break it (and post their results!) we can figure out the print run.

In my master case 1 inner had zero futura/25 parallels and the other inner had 2 futura parallels but they were both autos/25. So I wasn't complaining.

[GeechQuest]

I think it depends on two things:

- Are Futuras really falling 2 per master case?
- Is that including autos or just base?

Last season, I didn't hear of an inner case without a Futura. Everyone I saw had: 4 Cosmic Base, 3 Sunburst Base and 1 Futura Base. I based the odds on that. Now, if there were inner cases with a different structure...that definitively messes up my numbers :doh:

Also, according to my calculations, there were 3500 Galactics for 3750 inner cases last season. So it would make sense that there were some inner cases with no Galactics or some with two (I know because i was part of a master case break with only 1).

So far this year, I think I've seen one or two inner cases with no Futura Base. I think this haven't been broken enough to make assumptions, hopefully as more people break it (and post their results!) we can figure out the print run.

Where'd you get the print run for the Galactics? I have them at 3750, and I assumed that some cases produced 1 due to inaccurate pack-out (happens with all products) and hold backs for damaged replacements.

I saw where you said you had 10 vets, 20 rookies, and 15 for all inserts. I had 15 across the board. I did the math on post 2 and 12 in the thread below. Just wondering where you got the above because I'd like to know where I went wrong. You can PM me if you like.

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/basketball/987427-any-guesses-print-run-revolution-galactic.html

Also, I did 3 personal cases last year and had a case with 1 futura, although it was the ONLY one I saw like that.

Like I said I haven't seen many cases this year (but still more this first week than 15/16 Revolution's first week last year), and I have yet to see an entire Master Case without 2 futuras. I haven't done too much digging though to be honest.

I'd guess the print run is exactly the same on the Galactic, but the products overall total production was bumped up.

[yiguiri2002]

Where'd you get the print run for the Galactics? I have them at 3750, and I assumed that some cases produced 1 due to inaccurate pack-out (happens with all products) and hold backs for damaged replacements.

I saw where you said you had 10 vets, 20 rookies, and 15 for all inserts. I had 15 across the board. I did the math on post 2 and 12 in the thread below. Just wondering where you got the above because I'd like to know where I went wrong. You can PM me if you like.

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/basketball/987427-any-guesses-print-run-revolution-galactic.html

Also, I did 3 personal cases last year and had a case with 1 futura, although it was the ONLY one I saw like that.

Like I said I haven't seen many cases this year (but still more this first week than 15/16 Revolution's first week last year), and I have yet to see an entire Master Case without 2 futuras. I haven't done too much digging though to be honest.

I'd guess the print run is exactly the same on the Galactic, but the products overall total production was bumped up.

No problem. Just like you, I had them at 3750 based on the Futura base odds (1 per inner).

The thing is, last year, the rookie Galactic odds were the same as the base set odds. Given that the Rookies subset was half as big as the main set, the print run should be twice as big if the odds are the same.

From there, I just did the math and the base set was at 10 and the rookies at 20.

[chris_ac]

Where'd you get the print run for the Galactics? I have them at 3750, and I assumed that some cases produced 1 due to inaccurate pack-out (happens with all products) and hold backs for damaged replacements.

I saw where you said you had 10 vets, 20 rookies, and 15 for all inserts. I had 15 across the board. I did the math on post 2 and 12 in the thread below. Just wondering where you got the above because I'd like to know where I went wrong. You can PM me if you like.

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/basketball/987427-any-guesses-print-run-revolution-galactic.html

Also, I did 3 personal cases last year and had a case with 1 futura, although it was the ONLY one I saw like that.

Like I said I haven't seen many cases this year (but still more this first week than 15/16 Revolution's first week last year), and I have yet to see an entire Master Case without 2 futuras. I haven't done too much digging though to be honest.

I'd guess the print run is exactly the same on the Galactic, but the products overall total production was bumped up.

My 16/17 master case courtesy of BO had just 1 Futura and it was a base.

[nabogato]

I have got big 15/16 Galactic collection including 7 showstoppers galactics and most of rookie revolution set including pop1 9.5 bgs Towns . most i paid was 600 for Lebron galactic . all rookies i got under 500 . After I graded rookie revolution Towns i got offers on 1k for it . maybe now someone would offer more as is much intrest in this cards

Simmons will sell more then 1k as he dont have any autos or other big cards from Panini . this one should be one of his rarest pańinis card . I personally would be able to pay around 800/1000 for it .

[Oldschool42]

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