Myles Garrett HATES the Cleveland Browns

[gorillaz]

Myles Garrett is projected to be the #1 Overall Pick in this year's upcoming draft.

He has been going off all day, pleaing that the Cowboys should trade up and select him.

Video clip: Projected No. 1 pick Garrett has a message for Jerry Jones - ESPN Video (http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=18661161&sf55664822=1)

and now Garrett has claimed he will "skip" the NFL draft. He's claiming it's not about being "draft by the Browns" but he wants to be surrounded by family :doh:
“It’s great I don’t have to be in a big ole suit walking up on stage,” Garrett told the Houston Chronicle Friday. “Although that’s a fantastic moment, I just want to be with my family and enjoy that night with them.”

The Texas A&M defensive end has elected to skip the draft altogether and remain in Texas with family and friends.

“I know at the draft you can only have a select amount of people there so I knew I wanted to have everybody who’s ever affected my life positively and helped to build me up to where I am now, I wanted them to see what I’ve achieved and to be a part of this big moment in my life,” Garrett said. “I’m happy to include anybody who’s been a part of that process.”

Looks to me like he's gonna retire if the Browns pick him lol

[TWard]

Honestly can't say I blame him for not wanting to go to Cleveland haha


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[WeedenCollector]

Myles Garrett also said today so dont just jump on the hates cleveland stuff its an old take. Hes from Texas im sure Dallas is his dream

"People might say, oh they're this, they're that, or I made a comment about cold weather and they kind of pointed toward Cleveland," Garrett said. "It doesn't matter to me. I'll play wherever they put me. It's about your mindset you go into it [with]. If you go in there with a mindset that you're going to turn things around, you can make that contagious and people start to believe in it, then you can turn it into a winning program wherever you go.

[ntgm37]

Myles Garrett is projected to be the #1 Overall Pick in this year's upcoming draft.

He has been going off all day, pleaing that the Cowboys should trade up and select him.

Video clip: Projected No. 1 pick Garrett has a message for Jerry Jones - ESPN Video (http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=18661161&sf55664822=1)

and now Garrett has claimed he will "skip" the NFL draft. He's claiming it's not about being "draft by the Browns" but he wants to be surrounded by family :doh:


Looks to me like he's gonna retire if the Browns pick him lol

I bet Jerruh got hard as a rock over that. They need a pass rusher too...

[duwal]

Honestly can't say I blame him for not wanting to go to Cleveland haha



Or not wanting to go to the draft as well, it really is more of a photo op and pat on the back for the league than being more important to the players

[jmscoggin]

He lives in Arlington,TX the same city that Cowboys stadium is in, just for that reason alone how could you blame him? Besides, even if he was from Cleveland, he'd have to be crazy to prefer to play for the Cowboys over the Browns. Even so, I don't think the Cowboys have the pieces to make this happen.

[gorillaz]

Or not wanting to go to the draft as well, it really is more of a photo op and pat on the back for the league than being more important to the players

But that makes a lot more sense when you are a lower end pick. I think if you're going 1st overall, i'd for sure be on that stage.

[rman112]

I bet Jerruh got hard as a rock over that. They need a pass rusher too...

He needs a pill for that

[asujbl]

This is the dumbest story of the day. Mitch Trubisky says he wants to play for the hometown Browns and Cleveland fans bust in their pants

SF has the #1 pick and he does the same. I actually like him more that he's loyal to his hometown team until he is employed by another

Also for the whole context...

Myles Garrett shows Browns some love, but says he wants Cowboys to trade up for him in draft - Cleveland Browns - Ohio (http://www.ohio.com/blogs/cleveland-browns/cleveland-browns-1.270107/myles-garrett-shows-browns-some-love-but-says-he-wants-cowboys-to-trade-up-for-him-in-draft-1.746663)

[asujbl]

This was good


Takkarist McKinley ‏ @ TakkMckinley 49m 49 minutes ago
Takkarist McKinley Retweeted NFL on ESPN
Sh*t if he don't wanna go to #1 to the @ Browns make Takkarist Mckinley the number 1 pick then

[jmscoggin]

But that makes a lot more sense when you are a lower end pick. I think if you're going 1st overall, i'd for sure be on that stage.

If I was a sure fire top 3 pick, I know I wouldn't miss being there for anything. Yes it is a dog and pony show but so what, it's also a huge honor.

[asujbl]

If it was NYC I'd go... Philly I can do without

Half kidding

[Cavaliercards]

But that makes a lot more sense when you are a lower end pick. I think if you're going 1st overall, i'd for sure be on that stage.

To you but to others they rather just do their own thing. Joe Thomas was the 3rd overall pick and he went fishing because it is what he wanted to be doing instead.

[asujbl]

People know why some guys don't go to the Draft right? Like people get it? Same reason guys like Winston and Mariota didn't...

You get some Joe Thomas guys that don't want to.

They also get paid more to wear sponsor gear at home (headphones, clothes, etc... ) because they can't at the Draft.

Garrett can make some coin and not go to Philly? Makes sense to me.

[jasonm2121]

Still can't believe Spurgyn Wynn didn't work out.

[asujbl]

Still can't believe Spurgyn Wynn didn't work out.

Didn't or hasn't? He has time still if Brady can keep playing

[jasonm2121]

Didn't or hasn't? He has time still if Brady can keep playing

May as well try again, he should be fresh

[StevenTormollan]

This guy is such a d*ck. Already. Just be glad to be in the position you're in. To play the game you love and make tens of millions of dollars.

[jmscoggin]

This guy is such a d*ck. Already. Just be glad to be in the position you're in. To play the game you love and make tens of millions of dollars.

Pretty funny, I didn't read any of that from the interviews or video. Seems like a happy kid that is excited to play in the NFL but that would be thrilled to play for the hometown team. Yep, what a "disk".

[asujbl]

Pretty funny, I didn't read any of that from the interviews or video. Seems like a happy kid that is excited to play in the NFL but that would be thrilled to play for the hometown team. Yep, what a "disk".

This.

And if anyone should be "mad" it's me.

I love this kid. Be a hometown fan until the day someone else employs you.

[sportzluvr1]

This was good


Takkarist McKinley ‏ @ TakkMckinley 49m 49 minutes ago
Takkarist McKinley Retweeted NFL on ESPN
Sh*t if he don't wanna go to #1 to the @ Browns make Takkarist Mckinley the number 1 pick then

And the Browns say "why not".

[HBMC]

And the Browns say "why not".

Injury problems will probably deny Tak from being a high pick.

[meandsharon11]

The cowboys would have to give up their first 3 picks and their first from next year and probably second also. That's not gonna happen.


Or this trade


RG3 and the first overall

For

Dallas first rounder and Tony Romo

[asujbl]

The cowboys would have to give up their first 3 picks and their first from next year and probably second also. That's not gonna happen.


Or this trade


RG3 and the first overall

For

Dallas first rounder and Tony Romo

Tony Romo couldn't be more worthless to the Browns if they tried

I like the guy but the Browns laugh at this trade

[coltsnsox07]

Someone in his family should remind him of that #1 overall pick money!

[gamer4l1fe]

He don't need to show up to get the money LOL!!!

[oplum29]

Browns should trade out, then get Mike Williams and the kid from NC, Mitch Trubisky.

[Internazionale]

When you have the best prospect not wanting to go onto the biggest stage of his life, that's kinda bad. Just another slap to the face for the NFL. Yeah but he wants to be ''home with his family'' is lame. I mean really? Can't blame him for not wanting to goto Cleveland but still. Not very professional at all.

[ntgm37]

I'm sure there is alot of truth to it. Who wants to go to a dumpster fire and spend the first 5 years of your career being at best .500? Of course he wants to play for the star, and they could use him.

[Skybox]

MG is supposed to be a smart guy but thinks that the Cowboys can move up like 30 spots so they can draft him he's got a lot to learn about the League

[jmscoggin]

MG is supposed to be a smart guy but thinks that the Cowboys can move up like 30 spots so they can draft him he's got a lot to learn about the League

It's Jerry we're talking about, it wouldn't be prudent but it also wouldn't be impossible. If he truly wanted Myles, he could make it happen. It's the biggest position of need for the Cowboys right now too so I wouldn't be shocked if they were considering it.

[ntgm37]

It's Jerry we're talking about, it wouldn't be prudent but it also wouldn't be impossible. If he truly wanted Myles, he could make it happen. It's the biggest position of need for the Cowboys right now too so I wouldn't be shocked if they were considering it.

It would be pretty easy actually. If he came out and did an Eli, Dallas could offer their first 3 picks this year and first two next, and that would probably be enough. That's alot of draft currency to give up, but he is worth it, and they need a guy like him pretty badly.

[Skybox]

It would be pretty easy actually. If he came out and did an Eli, Dallas could offer their first 3 picks this year and first two next, and that would probably be enough. That's alot of draft currency to give up, but he is worth it, and they need a guy like him pretty badly.

Five picks for a guy that is not guaranteed to ever touch the football? even Jerry isn't that dumb ... This isn't Madden ... If they could get him for two picks then maybe but five? No way

[HBMC]

It would be pretty easy actually. If he came out and did an Eli, Dallas could offer their first 3 picks this year and first two next, and that would probably be enough. That's alot of draft currency to give up, but he is worth it, and they need a guy like him pretty badly.

Myles Garrett isn't even at the Clowney level in terms of raw physical gifts or ability.

Let's tap the brakes here about the new DE Messiah.

There's also a ton of DE's that are more than capable of being quality players in the NFL in this draft. I've already written him off as a draft able player because he will never fall to 28 barring something insane coming out about him.

Case closed, pot talk over, class dismissed.

[Stifle]

Maybe if the Browns would hire enough staff to clean the locker rooms or stop using recycled toilet water to wash the uniforms, the players wouldn't keep receiving staph infections. Did Myles talk to Kellen Winslow ?

[packman80]

Not wanting to go to the draft is no big deal. Look at Joe Thomas he decided to go fishing instead of attending the draft and he turned out to be pretty good.

[chansen10]

Myles Garrett isn't even at the Clowney level in terms of raw physical gifts or ability.

Let's tap the brakes here about the new DE Messiah.

There's also a ton of DE's that are more than capable of being quality players in the NFL in this draft. I've already written him off as a draft able player because he will never fall to 28 barring something insane coming out about him.

Case closed, pot talk over, class dismissed.

This is just simply not true.. Garrett and Clowney are about even in terms of raw ability.. I think Garrett is going to test better than Clowney..

[HBMC]

This is just simply not true.. Garrett and Clowney are about even in terms of raw ability.. I think Garrett is going to test better than Clowney..

How? Clowney had a better first step, better bend and is more fluid in about every respect. Garrett also never got double or triple teamed consistently. Garrett is thicker and may have more weightroom strength but he's not the same in terms of freakish athleticism for a man of his size.

[dfr52]

This is just simply not true.. Garrett and Clowney are about even in terms of raw ability.. I think Garrett is going to test better than Clowney..

I am in the Garrett camp as well. I think he will test well and win over people about his attitude. I have really only heard positive things about him.

[asujbl]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2652678-why-myles-garrett-is-a-better-nfl-draft-prospect-than-jadeveon-clowney.amp.html?client=safari

Detailed breakdown of why Garrett is better as a prospect than Clowney

[k13]

He's not even that good, weak draft.

Hopefully he busts and is out of the league in a few years.

[asujbl]

He's not even that good, weak draft.

Hopefully he busts and is out of the league in a few years.

I like people that have positive personalities with people they've never met. Good times

[asujbl]

He's not even that good, weak draft.

Hopefully he busts and is out of the league in a few years.

This is also a super deep draft... even if you hate Garrett for some weird reason. Just FYI.

[HBMC]

This is also a super deep draft... even if you hate Garrett for some weird reason. Just FYI.

Deep at certain spots, DE being one of the biggest of them, this is a horrid QB and OT draft though. CB is also a position of extreme depth.

[asujbl]

Deep at certain spots, DE being one of the biggest of them, this is a horrid QB and OT draft though. CB is also a position of extreme depth.

Agreed on both.

Overall though there is a crap ton of talent in the Top 100

[HBMC]

Agreed on both.

Overall though there is a crap ton of talent in the Top 100

Yes, there will be a severe drop off at LB, Safety and Guard IMO. Cunningham can put on a clinic at LB, as could Reddick, but there's not a lot of greats behind those two.

OT is so thin that I wouldn't be shocked if Cam Robinson is picked in the 1st just to get the 5th Year option.

[lambeauleap87]

I like people that have positive personalities with people they've never met. Good times

Step over the hockey section, he hates everyone and everything.

This "news" about Garrett is complete non-news.

[deathwished13]

If this was even true, which doesn't fit his personality at all.
Looks to me like he came out of it on the better team long term lol.
Dallas looks to be a team that will me mediocre for awhile while Cleveland is on the up and up thanks to John Dorsey.

[asujbl]

He's not even that good, weak draft.

Hopefully he busts and is out of the league in a few years.

Love you

[ILOVEBEER]

He's not even that good, weak draft.

Hopefully he busts and is out of the league in a few years.

Hate, hate, hate!

[asujbl]

Hate, hate, hate!

Garrett is a flat out destroyer of worlds...

Weak draft though

So take that into account

[deathwished13]

Lol sorry guys. As a Browns fan I was curious why Myles doesn't have any auto cards and during a Google search this came up and I got a chuckle out of it.

[asujbl]

Lol sorry guys. As a Browns fan I was curious why Myles doesn't have any auto cards and during a Google search this came up and I got a chuckle out of it.

I’m on record saying Kizer was going to be good

People have to live with their proclamations

[Siberian13]

Myles Garret has been great. No one can deny that so far in his career

[TheFrenzy]

Myles: On or off the hype train.....?

[deathwished13]

I’m on record saying Kizer was going to be good

People have to live with their proclamations

Lol well he did look good in the preseason!😆

No judgements here, I thought Quinn was going to be our savior and wanted nothing to do with Baker.


But after looking at Dorseys recent drafts and Bakers actual skill set I am certainly glad I was not picking. I also though picking Ward over Chubb was terrible that took all of 1 game to see I should trust Dorsey haha

[deathwished13]

Myles: On or off the hype train.....?

Dudes a man amongst boys out there. Garrett, Avery and Ojkajobi...hacked up his name. Are a great frontline defense.

[TheFrenzy]

Dudes a man amongst boys out there. Garrett, Avery and Ojkajobi...hacked up his name. Are a great frontline defense.

So what you're saying is: He is the train.

[deathwished13]

So what you're saying is: He is the train.

Looks like it. He looked decent last year but he wasn't healthy so I expected a little more but Wow not this.
I wouldn't put him on J.J. Watts few years he had when he was wrecking havoc. However you can see the potential there if he adds another move or two.

[asujbl]

This was a fantastic read after being posted in the Baker thread

Browns bumps for life

[asujbl]

Myles Garrett isn't even at the Clowney level in terms of raw physical gifts or ability.

Let's tap the brakes here about the new DE Messiah.

There's also a ton of DE's that are more than capable of being quality players in the NFL in this draft. I've already written him off as a draft able player because he will never fall to 28 barring something insane coming out about him.

Case closed, pot talk over, class dismissed.

This one is my favorite

[duwal]

He's not even that good, weak draft.

Hopefully he busts and is out of the league in a few years.


and we all remember k13's outlandish takes

[BostonNut]

Joe Thomas needs to get in this cats ear.

He still has time to get out!

[asujbl]

and we all remember k13's outlandish takes

He was the FCG of pre-COVID

Simpler times

[asujbl]

Joe Thomas needs to get in this cats ear.

He still has time to get out!

If it helps 90 out of 100 Browns fans would take a Parsons deal for him

It’s a full tear down to most

[BostonNut]

If it helps 90 out of 100 Browns fans would take a Parsons deal for him

It’s a full tear down to most

Parsons would just retire.

[tjforce]

Parsons would just retire.

I think he means trade Garrett for picks, like Dallas did for Parsons

[asujbl]

Parsons would just retire.

Be smarter than this

Dummy

[asujbl]

I think he means trade Garrett for picks, like Dallas did for Parsons

You’re not a dummy

[tjforce]

You’re not a dummy

The bar's set pretty low around here...


somewhere between 'crayon eater' and 'average iq Steelers fan'.

[SkipAway]

Browns are close to being good.

They have a lot of pieces in place, Gabriel is great but potentially a couple years away. Flacco was a good idea but they need a playmaker at QB... tough to find but if they can hit on a Baker, Darnold, Jones, Geno type of QB, it could happen quick.

Agree with the premise though, Garrett turns 30 in December. The best defensive player in the league is priming out on your team and you're at risk of wasting it. Needs to happen sooner than later.

[Siberian13]

The bar's set pretty low around here...


somewhere between 'crayon eater' and 'average iq Steelers fan'.

Isn’t that just two Steelers fans?

[asujbl]

Browns are close to being good.

They have a lot of pieces in place, Gabriel is great but potentially a couple years away. Flacco was a good idea but they need a playmaker at QB... tough to find but if they can hit on a Baker, Darnold, Jones, Geno type of QB, it could happen quick.

Agree with the premise though, Garrett turns 30 in December. The best defensive player in the league is priming out on your team and you're at risk of wasting it. Needs to happen sooner than later.

Gabriel is not good let alone great

Just pointing that out

[SkipAway]

Gabriel is not good let alone great

Just pointing that out

He's a really solid young QB. Super high IQ, accurate, athletic, takes care of the ball.

[asujbl]

He's a really solid young QB. Super high IQ, accurate, athletic, takes care of the ball.


Super high IQ? Sure. I have no idea but let's say he's smart
Accurate? Nope - he's average at best
Athletic? Nice try
Takes care of the ball? So far so good


I hope he has fun playing starting QB for some games. It won't last much longer even if he finishes out the season

Dude ain't it. If Sanders doesn't replace him the 1st round pick, which there will be one, will replace him

He's a career backup

[BostonNut]

He's a really solid young QB. Super high IQ, accurate, athletic, takes care of the ball.

Sounds like you’ve got a young Tom Brady on your hands!

[oldgoldy97]

Sounds like you’ve got a young Tom Brady on your hands!

He’s not young or tall, either.

[SkipAway]

Super high IQ? Sure. I have no idea but let's say he's smart
Accurate? Nope - he's average at best
Athletic? Nice try
Takes care of the ball? So far so good


I hope he has fun playing starting QB for some games. It won't last much longer even if he finishes out the season

Dude ain't it. If Sanders doesn't replace him the 1st round pick, which there will be one, will replace him

He's a career backup

Right, you didn't know he was a super high IQ QB...

Are these all things you said about Baker, Daniel Jones, Darnold and Geno at the same point? I hope it wasn't while coronating Stroud (who's awesome), Nix, Tua, etc. Sheduer is way behind him and not replacing him... he's not any good.

It's unlikely they're taking a 1st round QB. They have Myles Garrett and had a great draft. They aren't at ground zero like Jets, Titans, Saints. They'd likely look at a veteran or bounce back guy like other teams have done.

Like I said, could take a couple years, could be sooner. Checks a ton of boxes. Polished, poised, and smart.

[asujbl]

Right, you didn't know he was a super high IQ QB...

Are these all things you said about Baker, Daniel Jones, Darnold and Geno at the same point? I hope it wasn't while coronating Stroud (who's awesome), Nix, Tua, etc. Sheduer is way behind him and not replacing him... he's not any good.

It's unlikely they're taking a 1st round QB. They have Myles Garrett and had a great draft. They aren't at ground zero like Jets, Titans, Saints. They'd likely look at a veteran or bounce back guy like other teams have done.

Like I said, could take a couple years, could be sooner. Checks a ton of boxes. Polished, poised, and smart.

It's a stone cold lock that they are taking a 1st round QB

That isn't even a discussion point

Sanders will absolutely start games this year. That also isn't a debate at this point. They've said as much

Do you even watch the Browns or are you just a random Dillon Gabriel fan?

[SkipAway]

It's a stone cold lock that they are taking a 1st round QB

That isn't even a discussion point

Sanders will absolutely start games this year. That also isn't a debate at this point. They've said as much

Do you even watch the Browns or are you just a random Dillon Gabriel fan?

They took a QB in the 3rd and 5th rounds last year, and it's a stone cold lock they're taking one in the 1st round this year? Then do this all over again next year with a younger, even more raw QB?

We'll see... it's highly risky, super low floor in the short term, and just an unnecessary way to spend capital (1st, 3rd, and 5th on QBs in two years... with potentially nothing to show for 2-3 years).

You have Myles Garrett and a very good defense priming out. A coach who's 2x COY with Baker and Flacco. You are not at ground zero, you're a solid veteran QB (or Gabriel) away from being a complete team.

[BostonNut]

It's a stone cold lock that they are taking a 1st round QB

That isn't even a discussion point

Sanders will absolutely start games this year. That also isn't a debate at this point. They've said as much

Do you even watch the Browns or are you just a random Dillon Gabriel fan?

What number on the shirt will this kid be?

[JustinVerlander07]

They took a QB in the 3rd and 5th rounds last year, and it's a stone cold lock they're taking one in the 1st round this year? Then do this all over again next year with a younger, even more raw QB?

We'll see... it's highly risky, super low floor in the short term, and just an unnecessary way to spend capital (1st, 3rd, and 5th on QBs in two years... with potentially nothing to show for 2-3 years).

You have Myles Garrett and a very good defense priming out. A coach who's 2x COY with Baker and Flacco. You are not at ground zero, you're a solid veteran QB (or Gabriel) away from being a complete team.

asujbl is correct. The Browns are dumb, of course they'd draft zero future QBs in the 3rd/5th, then follow up the year after with 1 in the first, all while still paying Deshaun when they should've just kept Baker.

[asujbl]

They took a QB in the 3rd and 5th rounds last year, and it's a stone cold lock they're taking one in the 1st round this year? Then do this all over again next year with a younger, even more raw QB?

We'll see... it's highly risky, super low floor in the short term, and just an unnecessary way to spend capital (1st, 3rd, and 5th on QBs in two years... with potentially nothing to show for 2-3 years).

You have Myles Garrett and a very good defense priming out. A coach who's 2x COY with Baker and Flacco. You are not at ground zero, you're a solid veteran QB (or Gabriel) away from being a complete team.

Yes. It's a stone cold lock

[asujbl]

What number on the shirt will this kid be?

43 if you assume Sanders starts this year (which he will)

[SkipAway]

Yes. It's a stone cold lock

This is a fundamental misunderstanding of roster building. Can't rule it out of course, but it would be a massive blunder.

[asujbl]

This is a fundamental misunderstanding of roster building. Can't rule it out of course, but it would be a massive blunder.

Sounds good. You can think whatever you want

Gabriel sucks

They will be drafting a QB in the 1st round. So get on board

The only reason they wouldn't? The 1%? Is because of Sanders

Not Gabriel

[SkipAway]

Sounds good. You can think whatever you want

Gabriel sucks

They will be drafting a QB in the 1st round. So get on board

The only reason they wouldn't? The 1%? Is because of Sanders

Not Gabriel

You lack vision. But let's revisit in April...

Is there a particular QB you like? Or are you under the impression that you just repeatedly take QBs for the sake of taking one?

24 teams just passed on Jaxon Dart, including the Browns lol. There's like a 2% chance they take a QB, and that's if they trade into the Top 5 (which they won't).

I'm sure your plan works in Madden but this is real deal roster building.

[Boo]

Is Skip a nicer FCG? Seems they both like to give it to azzjubbles.

[asujbl]

Is Skip a nicer FCG? Seems they both like to give it to azzjubbles.

I think it's Dillion Gabriel's Mom

That's my first instinct

[asujbl]

You lack vision. But let's revisit in April...

Is there a particular QB you like? Or are you under the impression that you just repeatedly take QBs for the sake of taking one?

24 teams just passed on Jaxon Dart, including the Browns lol. There's like a 2% chance they take a QB, and that's if they trade into the Top 5 (which they won't).

I'm sure your plan works in Madden but this is real deal roster building.

I lack vision? I'm telling you what is going to happen dummy. I'm not Andrew Berry. Hate to tell you

I am a Browns season ticket holder that knows what the hell is going on

I do appreciate you think we're picking outside the Top 5. Most would disagree with you

Gabriel sucks. Sorry Mrs. Gabriel

[SkipAway]

I'm assuming he's just a massive Browns fan?

Zero emotional attachment to the Browns here... hence I'm able to clearly assess without all of the years of failure of Baker, Manziel, Weeden, Quinn, DTR.... back to Couch.

If you put Darnold or Dimes on this Browns team, they're a playoff team. Do you agree?

[asujbl]

I'm assuming he's just a massive Browns fan?

Zero emotional attachment to the Browns here... hence I'm able to clearly assess without all of the years of failure of Baker, Manziel, Weeden, Quinn, DTR.... back to Couch.

If you put Darnold or Dimes on this Browns team, they're a playoff team. Do you agree?

You're literally the only person on the planet that thinks Gabriel is good. The only one

Would they be a Playoff team? That's a loaded question because of Lamar and Burrow. Are those guys still hurt? If he starts against New England this week? Maybe... because the Division sucks. If Lamar and Burrow were healthy and playing 7 games? No chance they are a Playoff team with Jones or Darnold

The same reason Flacco with Chase/Higgins isn't the same as Flacco with Jeudy/Fannin

The Browns have no Offense, it was garbage on Saturday (same as Gabriel), outside of Judkins. No OLine and no one that can catch the ball outside of Fannin (who is going to be good)

I have to be being punked. No way someone is this confident in the Browns right now

I look foward to Gabriel being benched. Just need a loss

[SkipAway]

You're literally the only person on the planet that thinks Gabriel is good. The only one

Would they be a Playoff team? That's a loaded question because of Lamar and Burrow. Are those guys still hurt? If he starts against New England this week? Maybe... because the Division sucks. If Lamar and Burrow were healthy and playing 7 games? No chance they are a Playoff team with Jones or Darnold

The same reason Flacco with Chase/Higgins isn't the same as Flacco with Jeudy/Fannin

The Browns have no Offense, it was garbage on Saturday (same as Gabriel), outside of Judkins. No OLine and no one that can catch the ball outside of Fannin (who is going to be good)

I have to be being punked. No way someone is this confident in the Browns right now

I look foward to Gabriel being benched. Just need a loss

2 months ago were you saying Dimes was trash?

18 months ago were you saying Baker/Darnold were busts?

Were you pounding the table for the Brows to draft Dart last year?

Rookie QBs are bad - breaking news. You're making sweeping judgements about a rookie QB, in a tough offense (as you outlined), in his first 4 starts (one of which he just won in blowout fashion). This isn't how you evaluate talent in the NFL.

You look for traits... and he has a bunch. But I mean you're not wrong. This is the Browns... you cannibalized John Dorsey and Baker Mayfield. I won't be shocked if they mess up the next 12 months, but nothing in roster building says they take a rookie QB to then set this team back another 2 years when you have the best defensive player in the NFL on your team.

[asujbl]

2 months ago were you saying Dimes was trash?

18 months ago were you saying Baker/Darnold were busts?

Were you pounding the table for the Brows to draft Dart last year?

Rookie QBs are bad - breaking news. You're making sweeping judgements about a rookie QB, in a tough offense (as you outlined), in his first 4 starts (one of which he just won in blowout fashion). This isn't how you evaluate talent in the NFL.

You look for traits... and he has a bunch. But I mean you're not wrong. This is the Browns... you cannibalized John Dorsey and Baker Mayfield. I won't be shocked if they mess up the next 12 months, but nothing in roster building says they take a rookie QB to then set this team back another 2 years when you have the best defensive player in the NFL on your team.

You think the Browns are good. More power to you

He also didn't win crap on Sunday. The fact that you said "blowout fashion" proves how much you actually watch Football

They could have started a 5 year old and they would have beat the Dolphins with Judkins and the Defense

Gabriel did absolutely nothing

[asujbl]

2 months ago were you saying Dimes was trash?

18 months ago were you saying Baker/Darnold were busts?

Were you pounding the table for the Brows to draft Dart last year?

Rookie QBs are bad - breaking news. You're making sweeping judgements about a rookie QB, in a tough offense (as you outlined), in his first 4 starts (one of which he just won in blowout fashion). This isn't how you evaluate talent in the NFL.

You look for traits... and he has a bunch. But I mean you're not wrong. This is the Browns... you cannibalized John Dorsey and Baker Mayfield. I won't be shocked if they mess up the next 12 months, but nothing in roster building says they take a rookie QB to then set this team back another 2 years when you have the best defensive player in the NFL on your team.

On a related note I've got some tickets available if you'd like to watch your chosen one play...

I'll even cut you a deal

[SkipAway]

On a related note I've got some tickets available if you'd like to watch your chosen one play...

I'll even cut you a deal

They're certainly not on Dolphins, Saints, Titans, Jets level like you're acting. Their defense is very solid, their o-line is aging but big. Judkins is RB1, Njoku/Fannin both TE1, Jeudy is better than what he's been.

It's a decent roster, strong defensively. They lost to Burrow, Lamar, Goff... beat the Packers.

Just saying you're operating like they have nothing in place like those other teams, when in reality a QB could make them look a lot more like the Vikings, which I'd say most people think is a solid club.

Last year's draft is highly concerning though (2024 draft)... are any of those guys playing any significant snaps?

[asujbl]

They're certainly not on Dolphins, Saints, Titans, Jets level like you're acting. Their defense is very solid, their o-line is aging but big. Judkins is RB1, Njoku/Fannin both TE1, Jeudy is better than what he's been.

It's a decent roster, strong defensively. They lost to Burrow, Lamar, Goff... beat the Packers.

Just saying you're operating like they have nothing in place like those other teams, when in reality a QB could make them look a lot more like the Vikings, which I'd say most people think is a solid club.

Last year's draft is highly concerning though (2024 draft)... are any of those guys playing any significant snaps?

You are just Mister Positivity and I’m here for all of it

Let’s go Browns!

Gabriel still sucks though. Even if you believe the rest of this

[SkipAway]

You are just Mister Positivity and I’m here for all of it

Let’s go Browns!

Gabriel still sucks though. Even if you believe the rest of this

Yessir, just like the roster and see what they're building.

And if Gabriel didn't win crap, that supports my argument that the team around him is pretty good (since he didn't lift a finger).

If that's the case and you want to select a 1st Rd QB to complete the team, just don't be mad at me when it looks like JJ McCarthy, rookie Trevor, rookie Baker, or basically any rookie QB in the last X number of years.

If you're actually close to being good (like Seahawks, Bucs, Colts in the last couple years), a veteran QB is much more likely to accelerate the rise than a rookie QB. Myles ain't waiting around for some 22 year old to 'develop,' as he's stated (and been promised before signing an extension).

[asujbl]

Yessir, just like the roster and see what they're building.

And if Gabriel didn't win crap, that supports my argument that the team around him is pretty good (since he didn't lift a finger).

If that's the case and you want to select a 1st Rd QB to complete the team, just don't be mad at me when it looks like JJ McCarthy, rookie Trevor, rookie Baker, or basically any rookie QB in the last X number of years.

If you're actually close to being good (like Seahawks, Bucs, Colts in the last couple years), a veteran QB is much more likely to accelerate the rise than a rookie QB. Myles ain't waiting around for some 22 year old to 'develop,' as he's stated (and been promised before signing an extension).

Here we go Brownies. Here we go!

Woof Woof

[asujbl]

Side note… Gabriel is still garbage


In 3 starts:

- 98 total pass attempts
- 66 attempts at 9 yards or less
- Just 11/28 to intermediate range (10-19)
- Just 1/4 on passes over 20 yards

This results in (out of 34 qualifying QBs):

- 5.1 yards per attempt (34th)
- 6.1 ADOT (34th)
- 3 TD (33rd)
- 546 yards (34th)
- 59.8% CMP (31st)
- 2 big-time throws (34th)
- 1.7% BTT (34th)

That’s 67% of the time, Gabriel is throwing passes under 9 yards. And yet, he somehow has a high amount of bad throws despite the shorter, “safer” passes.

- 6 turnover-worthy plays (20th)
- 4.6% TWP (6th-highest)

[asujbl]

Come at me Skip

I mean Mrs. Gabriel

Garbage

[SkipAway]

Please do detailed first 3 games stats for Burrow, Lamar, Dak, Herbert, Baker, Hurts and Maye next.

This meaningless sample size thing... I think you might be on to something here!

[asujbl]

Please do detailed first 3 games stats for Burrow, Lamar, Dak, Herbert, Baker, Hurts and Maye next.

This meaningless sample size thing... I think you might be on to something here!

I'm good. Gabriel sucks

[BostonNut]

This thread is wild.

[asujbl]

This thread is wild.

I’m enjoying it very much

Meeting someone so passionate about Dillion Gabriel, and apparently the rest of the Browns roster from other posts, warms my heart

He clearly doesn’t watch them play but he knows the names

Which is awesome

[SkipAway]

Just trying to help him understand what's actually going on. Being front row as a Browns fan for what they've done the last 30 years I'm sure makes it seem like everything's always going wrong.

Not easy to zoom out and see the proverbial forest through the trees. If I can help him even 1%... that's a win in my eyes.

I'm not sure if his Sheduer bags are packed and he's just wanting them to go up, but I have zero horse in this race.

[asujbl]

Just trying to help him understand what's actually going on. Being front row as a Browns fan for what they've done the last 30 years I'm sure makes it seem like everything's always going wrong.

Not easy to zoom out and see the proverbial forest through the trees. If I can help him even 1%... that's a win in my eyes.

I'm not sure if his Sheduer bags are packed and he's just wanting them to go up, but I have zero horse in this race.

Gabriel still sucks

[BostonNut]

This guy stinks.

[asujbl]

Gabriel is so bad at Football

[jlzinck]

Garrett is a bad man

[BostonNut]

Gabriel is so bad at Football

Whoever is play caller is is garbage also.

Back to back trick players and neither worked. :cry:

[asujbl]

Just trying to help him understand what's actually going on. Being front row as a Browns fan for what they've done the last 30 years I'm sure makes it seem like everything's always going wrong.

Not easy to zoom out and see the proverbial forest through the trees. If I can help him even 1%... that's a win in my eyes.

I'm not sure if his Sheduer bags are packed and he's just wanting them to go up, but I have zero horse in this race.

Where you at boy?

Dillon Gabriel passing grades per week (pending week 8 review)

W5 63.5
W6 52.5
W7 48.6
W8 38.4

He's the lowest graded passer in the NFL (min 100 attempt), worst in uncatchable throw rate, lowest in BTTs, 3rd worst in TWPs, lowest in positive grade rate, and 2nd worst in rhythm throw rate.

[tjforce]

Fun stat:

Myles Garrett just notched his 8th double digit sack season. He's just 29 years old.


Another:

He went from 46th to 38th on the all time sack list today

[Bosoxfan5990]

He hates the Cleveland Browns, but loves money.

[Siberian13]

Fun stat:

Myles Garrett just notched his 8th double digit sack season. He's just 29 years old.


Another:

He went from 46th to 38th on the all time sack list today

Myles Garrett passed Reggie White for the NFL record of most sacks by a player under the age of 30

[tjforce]

Myles Garrett passed Reggie White for the NFL record of most sacks by a player under the age of 30

Man. Any time you can say "Passed Reggie White" its pretty impressive.

[Siberian13]

Man. Any time you can say "Passed Reggie White" its pretty impressive.

Definitely impressive but to be fair to Reggie he spent his first two season in USFL.

[BostonNut]

Dude was all by himself on the end of the bench at the end of the game. Dude is going to just rot away in Cleveland :(

[Siberian13]

Dude was all by himself on the end of the bench at the end of the game. Dude is going to just rot away in Cleveland :(

That’s all anyone does in Cleveland. :)!

[SkipAway]

He hates the Cleveland Browns, but loves money.

568239

We good.

[SkipAway]

Where you at boy?

Dillon Gabriel passing grades per week (pending week 8 review)

W5 63.5
W6 52.5
W7 48.6
W8 38.4

He's the lowest graded passer in the NFL (min 100 attempt), worst in uncatchable throw rate, lowest in BTTs, 3rd worst in TWPs, lowest in positive grade rate, and 2nd worst in rhythm throw rate.

This is unserious.

Nitpicking his literal first four career starts. One in Ireland vs Brian Flores, one @ Sixburgh, won by 25 in his first home game, then got beat up today.

Why would he have good advanced metrics in that sample, after those games in particular?

You guys other issues today too... let's be real. Allowed 6.5 YPP, 5.1 per rush, 177 yards on the ground.

Please do the advanced breakdown thing for your 5 favorites QBs first four NFL starts. Not asking to share it here, just do it for you.

[itsbaytime]

Look, I am not saying your first four starts have to define your career. I am saying that this guy was a 3rd round pick that was an overdraft at the time and he looks even worse now. He is a midget that isn't that mobile and throws 3-5 yard passes. I thought he was a bum coming out of college and I continue to think that. I think he is a smart kid and I have no disdain for him. If he plays his cards right, then he could be a backup in this league for a long time. That is a great gig where you maybe don't get CTE when you are 47 years old.

[Boo]

Look, I am not saying your first four starts have to define your career. I am saying that this guy was a 3rd round pick that was an overdraft at the time and he looks even worse now. He is a midget that isn't that mobile and throws 3-5 yard passes. I thought he was a bum coming out of college and I continue to think that. I think he is a smart kid and I have no disdain for him. If he plays his cards right, then he could be a backup in this league for a long time. That is a great gig where you maybe don't get CTE when you are 47 years old.

Agreed. At least the midget Kyler Murray can run but he still sucks.

[oldgoldy97]

Agreed. At least the midget Kyler Murray can run but he still sucks.

Look who each is throwing to. Midgets need good targets.

[asujbl]

This is unserious.

Nitpicking his literal first four career starts. One in Ireland vs Brian Flores, one @ Sixburgh, won by 25 in his first home game, then got beat up today.

Why would he have good advanced metrics in that sample, after those games in particular?

You guys other issues today too... let's be real. Allowed 6.5 YPP, 5.1 per rush, 177 yards on the ground.

Please do the advanced breakdown thing for your 5 favorites QBs first four NFL starts. Not asking to share it here, just do it for you.

Gabriel is garbage and you know it

Might never start another game at this point

[asujbl]

Look, I am not saying your first four starts have to define your career. I am saying that this guy was a 3rd round pick that was an overdraft at the time and he looks even worse now. He is a midget that isn't that mobile and throws 3-5 yard passes. I thought he was a bum coming out of college and I continue to think that. I think he is a smart kid and I have no disdain for him. If he plays his cards right, then he could be a backup in this league for a long time. That is a great gig where you maybe don't get CTE when you are 47 years old.

This

Gabriel should have been a 6th or 7th rounder to begin with but that’s a different argument

He simply isn’t good. He never will be good

Collect a check and relax for 8-10 years. That’s a good career for him

[oldgoldy97]

He might end up being a good coach. Like Moore.

[SkipAway]

What's making you think that? Just that he's short and looked bad in a couple of his first tough tests?

You've cited advanced stats in what is a meaningless sample size, said he's short, and that he sucks. And just said it like 10x in different ways.

Are you saying he can't process, make the throws, understand time/situation? What's the actual gripe, other than you have Sheduer bags?

He has never sucked at any level in his life, he's from a massive football family, he's smart and mature and has his priorities in order. What's the actual gripe you have on him as a QB? (Please don't confuse it with your judgement of the Browns org, and how they're about to Mike Trout the entire prime of one of the great defensive players of our generation. That's extremely troubling but it's irrelevant in this.)

[asujbl]

What's making you think that? Just that he's short and looked bad in a couple of his first tough tests?

You've cited advanced stats in what is a meaningless sample size, said he's short, and that he sucks. And just said it like 10x in different ways.

Are you saying he can't process, make the throws, understand time/situation? What's the actual gripe, other than you have Sheduer bags?

He has never sucked at any level in his life, he's from a massive football family, he's smart and mature and has his priorities in order. What's the actual gripe you have on him as a QB? (Please don't confuse it with your judgement of the Browns org, and how they're about to Mike Trout the entire prime of one of the great defensive players of our generation. That's extremely troubling but it's irrelevant in this.)

You’re either his Mom or you’re banging him… hopefully not both

He sucks

[asujbl]

What's making you think that? Just that he's short and looked bad in a couple of his first tough tests?

You've cited advanced stats in what is a meaningless sample size, said he's short, and that he sucks. And just said it like 10x in different ways.

Are you saying he can't process, make the throws, understand time/situation? What's the actual gripe, other than you have Sheduer bags?

He has never sucked at any level in his life, he's from a massive football family, he's smart and mature and has his priorities in order. What's the actual gripe you have on him as a QB? (Please don't confuse it with your judgement of the Browns org, and how they're about to Mike Trout the entire prime of one of the great defensive players of our generation. That's extremely troubling but it's irrelevant in this.)

Wait… what is this massive Football family? His Dad that was garbage at Hawaii?

Please elaborate

This is going to be awesome

[SkipAway]

You’re either his Mom or you’re banging him… hopefully not both

He sucks

Sounds like we're getting somewhere :)!

[asujbl]

Sounds like we're getting somewhere :)!

Which one are you? What a weird reply

[SkipAway]

Which one are you? What a weird reply

Was curious what in your evaluation is making him think that he sucks... then you side-stepped the question again.

All I ask is that in a few years you come back and say, "Hey man, that was a good call. You were right on this."

[asujbl]

Was curious what in your evaluation is making him think that he sucks... then you side-stepped the question again.

All I ask is that in a few years you come back and say, "Hey man, that was a good call. You were right on this."

Or…

He sucks and won’t be in the league in a few years

You will be wrong. I will be right

[cnewby]

...for the first time in many years.

[itsbaytime]

What's making you think that? Just that he's short and looked bad in a couple of his first tough tests?

You've cited advanced stats in what is a meaningless sample size, said he's short, and that he sucks. And just said it like 10x in different ways.

Are you saying he can't process, make the throws, understand time/situation? What's the actual gripe, other than you have Sheduer bags?

He has never sucked at any level in his life, he's from a massive football family, he's smart and mature and has his priorities in order. What's the actual gripe you have on him as a QB? (Please don't confuse it with your judgement of the Browns org, and how they're about to Mike Trout the entire prime of one of the great defensive players of our generation. That's extremely troubling but it's irrelevant in this.)

I'm genuinely wondering what you like about him? Short for an NFL QB-checkmark, Weak arm for an NFL QB-checkmark, has not looked very good in the NFL games he has played-checkmark, played 6!!! years in college-checkmark, was considered an overdraft as a 3rd round pick-checkmark, doesn't look particularly fast or mobile for his size-checkmark. Be happy he is in the league if you are a fan. I have not heard anyone in the organization or that covers the organization say he was anyone special at any time since he was drafted. Most have acknowledged that he would make a decent backup QB. No one think he is a starting caliber QB in the NFL. It is what it is.

[49erRCCollector]

I'm genuinely wondering what you like about him? Short for an NFL QB-checkmark, Weak arm for an NFL QB-checkmark, has not looked very good in the NFL games he has played-checkmark, played 6!!! years in college-checkmark, was considered an overdraft as a 3rd round pick-checkmark, doesn't look particularly fast or mobile for his size-checkmark. Be happy he is in the league if you are a fan. I have not heard anyone in the organization or that covers the organization say he was anyone special at any time since he was drafted. Most have acknowledged that he would make a decent backup QB. No one think he is a starting caliber QB in the NFL. It is what it is.

Sounds like he’s Brandon Weeden.

Browns have sone this dance before.

[itsbaytime]

Brandon Weeden was 6'3", but I get where you are going with that.

[BostonNut]

Browns have sone this dance before.

41 times is it?

[asujbl]

Dillon Gabriel is the worst QB in the history of QB’s

All levels. Not just NFL

Ever. The worst ever

[Siberian13]

Dillon Gabriel is the worst QB in the history of QB’s

All levels. Not just NFL

Ever. The worst ever

Nice, this poor guy doesn’t have to live with the shame anymore.

https://media.tenor.com/QfbNvEkRcPkAAAAM/nathan-peterman-nod.gif

[asujbl]

Nice, this poor guy doesn’t have to live with the shame anymore.

https://media.tenor.com/QfbNvEkRcPkAAAAM/nathan-peterman-nod.gif

That drive? The worst

The worst ever

Do people think he’s athletic because he’s little?

Because he’s not only short and inaccurate but also crazy unathletic

[boxbuster7]

Ravens are really going to blow this one...

[49ersSF]

Myles is about to obliterate the sack record this season.

[rhigh2390]

Dillon Gabriel is the worst QB in the history of QB’s

All levels. Not just NFL

Ever. The worst ever

Sanders is in the middle of saying "hold my beer"...

[Siberian13]

That drive? The worst

The worst ever

Do people think he’s athletic because he’s little?

Because he’s not only short and inaccurate but also crazy unathletic

Who knew you guys were hiding an even worse QB?

[asujbl]

Who knew you guys were hiding an even worse QB?

Entirely possible

Browns fans want Watson??

What a world

[kingofsnake]

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExc3hoNzZuamxnZWg0Z2MybDdzczZleDF5bjkzcWV1YWJkN3V5ZjY5YiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/vNE4teUHr8powstx3I/giphy.gif

The time of the Shedeur Sanders has come.

[boxbuster7]

And shadeur and deion thought he should've been a top 10 pick

https://www.denofgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Ray-Liotta-in-Goodfellas.jpg?fit=1280%2C720

[asujbl]

The sad part is? Sanders is already better than Gabriel

[Fulmer4MVP]

The sad part is? Sanders is already better than Gabriel

The corpse of Bart Starr would be better at QB than Gabriel. I'm still not convinced Sanders is any better.

[Siberian13]

The sad part is? Sanders is already better than Gabriel

Now the sad part is the browns starting/playing 4th and 5th round qbs. Sanders tossed into fire today so can’t really count his effort this game.

[asujbl]

The corpse of Bart Starr would be better at QB than Gabriel. I'm still not convinced Sanders is any better.

He can throw it more than 5 yards downfield

That’s better than Gabriel

[Siberian13]

He can throw it more than 5 yards downfield

That’s better than Gabriel

Is it better if the other team catches it?

[Floridacardguy]

Now the sad part is the browns starting/playing 4th and 5th round qbs. Sanders tossed into fire today so can’t really count his effort this game.

Feel bad for the guy. On the other hand, after demanding a trade he caved and took the payday.

Browns are so bad at their core including management.
Who drafts not 1 BUT 2 crap QBs jn the same draft, then trades away the actual best QB on the team to a division opponent?

Praying McKee doesn’t wind up there

[49ersSF]

Feel bad for the guy. On the other hand, after demanding a trade he caved and took the payday.

Browns are so bad at their core including management.
Who drafts not 1 BUT 2 crap QBs jn the same draft, then trades away the actual best QB on the team to a division opponent?

Praying McKee doesn’t wind up there

Dude, you must have spent big on Tanner McKee to bring him up as much as you do. I just looked, you have 357 posts about a QB who is 25 and started 1 single game.

[majestik101]

Dude, you must have spent big on Tanner McKee to bring him up as much as you do. I just looked, you have 357 posts about a QB who is 25 and started 1 single game.

#facts

[Jaysabz]

Another 4-sack game yesterday by Garrett.

The single-season sack record is co-held by Michael Strahan and TJ Watt at 22.5 sacks.

Through 10 games, Garrett has 15 sacks.

[asujbl]

Feel bad for the guy. On the other hand, after demanding a trade he caved and took the payday.

Browns are so bad at their core including management.
Who drafts not 1 BUT 2 crap QBs jn the same draft, then trades away the actual best QB on the team to a division opponent?

Praying McKee doesn’t wind up there

Flacco sucks. Why do people keep bringing him up like he matters?

[Grid]

Flacco sucks. Why do people keep bringing him up like he matters?

Because Flacco was the tallest midget. No one is saying he is good. Only that he was the best QB on their roster this year. And that is absolutely correct.

[asujbl]

Because Flacco was the tallest midget. No one is saying he is good. Only that he was the best QB on their roster this year. And that is absolutely correct.

Oh people are saying he’s good. Not this thread but the other ones

Browns got a free pick for him

It was a fantastic trade

[Boo]

Obligatory TJ Watt is better post for Ruggy.

[BostonNut]

Obligatory TJ Watt is better post for Ruggy.

Nah, Myles is superior.

He just needs to be put on a real NFL team.

[Soxrule111]

Another 4-sack game yesterday by Garrett.

The single-season sack record is co-held by Michael Strahan and TJ Watt at 22.5 sacks.

Through 10 games, Garrett has 15 sacks.

Im all for Records getting broken, but I don't understand the Garrett love on it this year. He had a 5 and 4 sack game. So he has 6 in the other 8 games played? He finishes how he started, and hes at 21.

With how people say hes going to break there record after the 5 sack game, and this one I would think 10 games in with a5/4 hes already at 20+

[asujbl]

Im all for Records getting broken, but I don't understand the Garrett love on it this year. He had a 5 and 4 sack game. So he has 6 in the other 8 games played? He finishes how he started, and hes at 21.

With how people say hes going to break there record after the 5 sack game, and this one I would think 10 games in with a5/4 hes already at 20+

"He finishes how he started and he's at 21"

What a wild thing to say

[Grid]

Im all for Records getting broken, but I don't understand the Garrett love on it this year. He had a 5 and 4 sack game. So he has 6 in the other 8 games played? He finishes how he started, and hes at 21.

With how people say hes going to break there record after the 5 sack game, and this one I would think 10 games in with a5/4 hes already at 20+

Its wild that you would dismiss a 4 sack game. Let alone a 5 sack game. If anything, that shows just how nuts he is playing this year.

Getting 3 sacks in a game is a big thing. Not many ever pull the hat trick. Getting 4 and another getting 5? In the same season? At the half way point?

Yeah. That gets some love IMO

[Soxrule111]

Its wild that you would dismiss a 4 sack game. Let alone a 5 sack game. If anything, that shows just how nuts he is playing this year.

Getting 3 sacks in a game is a big thing. Not many ever pull the hat trick. Getting 4 and another getting 5? In the same season? At the half way point?

Yeah. That gets some love IMO

It was more so after the 5 sack game. Like he had 10 in 8 games, but 5 came in one. Anyone, after a 5 sack game is In contention" for the record. I truly was surprised how few sacks he had the first 7 games

[Siberian13]

Obligatory TJ Watt is better post for Ruggy.

I miss ol’ scabby knees

[boxbuster7]

I don't understand how a teams best player could hate their own team

[Grid]

I don't understand how a teams best player could hate their own team

People do lots of things they dont like. As long as someone pays them enough to do it.

The Browns gave Garrett $160MIL reasons to play for a team he hates. I would have done it for less...

[boxbuster7]

People do lots of things they dont like. As long as someone pays them enough to do it.

The Browns gave Garrett $160MIL reasons to play for a team he hates. I would have done it for less...

but he is one of the best defensive players in the league every year. So he obviously is trying hard to be on a winning team.

[asujbl]

I don't understand how a teams best player could hate their own team

You know this is super old thread that got bumped randomly right?

[asujbl]

It was more so after the 5 sack game. Like he had 10 in 8 games, but 5 came in one. Anyone, after a 5 sack game is In contention" for the record. I truly was surprised how few sacks he had the first 7 games

Being surprised about 5 sacks in the first 7 games proves how ridiculous he is

He was on pace for more than 12 sacks when you apparently thought he sucked

[boxbuster7]

You know this is super old thread that got bumped randomly right?

I am trying to understand the OPs rationale but I guess its clear he is not a smart person

[asujbl]

I am trying to understand the OPs rationale but I guess its clear he is not a smart person

It was very rationale at the time

There were lots of rumors he didn’t want to go to Cleveland in 2017 and wanted to stay in Texas

This was the Myles and Baker 1-31 stretch

Unless I’m missing something?

The skipping the draft part was dumb. Tons of guys skip the draft. Also what I posted 8 years ago on this thread

[Soxrule111]

Being surprised about 5 sacks in the first 7 games proves how ridiculous he is

He was on pace for more than 12 sacks when you apparently thought he sucked

True, but sucked isnt what I would say. I Just said people talked after the 5 game like he was near 20 already, I was surprised to see he was only at like 10 afterwards.

I wouldnt ever say Garrett is bad, just said people acted like he was going to get 5 a game from here out, and he pretty much has, but his first 1/3 of the season was ALL PRO level, just not Record setting level

[BostonNut]

You know this is super old thread that got bumped randomly right?

He does hate the Browns.

He likes money.

[asujbl]

He does hate the Browns.

He likes money.

Which is fine. I don’t care about that at all

This thread is still 8 years old

[wiper]

He does hate the Browns.

He likes money.


most of us do [emoji57]

[asujbl]

Gabriel still sucks

This thread should never die

[asujbl]

What happened to Skippy anyway? I was loving that dude

[hermanotarjeta]

He LIKES some Chloe Kim.

[Grid]

True, but sucked isnt what I would say. I Just said people talked after the 5 game like he was near 20 already, I was surprised to see he was only at like 10 afterwards.

I wouldnt ever say Garrett is bad, just said people acted like he was going to get 5 a game from here out, and he pretty much has, but his first 1/3 of the season was ALL PRO level, just not Record setting level

Just one week after this post. And he is almost at 20.

3 sacks VS the raiders, that puts him at 18.

Last 4 games, 13 sacks and 3 forced fumbles. Thats just silly.

[asujbl]

He LIKES some Chloe Kim.

They’ve been together for a while at this point

[packman80]

Garrett 1 more sack today. 4 away from the record. With the Titans next week I think it's possible Garrett could get 4 sacks in that game.

[Siberian13]

Garrett 1 more sack today. 4 away from the record. With the Titans next week I think it's possible Garrett could get 4 sacks in that game.

One of the few things I have to cheer for this year. Hope he crushes the record.

[cfern023]

WE'RE THE CLEVELAND BROWNS... and WE PUNT.
We Punt.
We Punt.

IYKYK

[cfern023]

Hope he absolutly shatters the record. Spending his whole career in Cleveland is a death sentence, even if it was his choice to accept that truck load of cash (That I doubt anyone else would have been able to afford to give him).

Dude decided he wanted to play in Cleveland as long as the check clears which is saying something. He might retire a lifetime Brown.

The lone brightspots in his career will be the Cream Jacket and this record that I hope he makes unattainable. Maybe he has a swan song in texas or somewhere and gets a ring- but he's probably had more QB's in Cleveland than he did in Pop Warner when they gave everyone on the roster a chance to play QB.

[Floridacardguy]

Hope he absolutly shatters the record. Spending his whole career in Cleveland is a death sentence, even if it was his choice to accept that truck load of cash (That I doubt anyone else would have been able to afford to give him).

Dude decided he wanted to play in Cleveland as long as the check clears which is saying something. He might retire a lifetime Brown.

The lone brightspots in his career will be the Cream Jacket and this record that I hope he makes unattainable. Maybe he has a swan song in texas or somewhere and gets a ring- but he's probably had more QB's in Cleveland than he did in Pop Warner when they gave everyone on the roster a chance to play QB.

But he took the payday over the trade demand, so, that part is on him

[Archangel1775]

Imagine having a career year and you have to witness this:

Down two touchdowns with under 5 minutes left, your young QB drives down twice to score and only a 2-point conversion separates the two teams from overtime. What does the head coach do? Wildcat. Hahaha!