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Durantula
02-13-2017, 03:41 AM
Been watching these cards intensively the past weeks.
Not only the Refractors keep climbing, the Base also.
Haven't looked up BVs for a while but as far as I know these book $80.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/322414571969
Highest price for non graded Refractor so far.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/192094680686
I will update this thread from time to time.
Nyfancam01
02-13-2017, 03:50 AM
-_-
i sold TWO refractors from this set for $25 each when this stuff came out...
OF COURSE.
davechappelle
02-13-2017, 07:18 AM
It started last year with Curry chromes going up then followed by LBJ & Kobe... then Duncan, Westbrook, Harden, Giannis prizm and now KD. We are going back to unnumbered base RCs craze ;)
Base PSA 10s have exploded the last few weeks. :doh::doh:
mrchipz
02-13-2017, 07:29 AM
not gonna lie i didnt think these have went up that much my god!! i would think they would go down when he left okc.
minnesotachill
02-13-2017, 09:03 AM
http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/basketball/1057577-my-durant-chrome-refractor-collection.html
I definitely didn't see this rise in prices coming
http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/basketball/1057577-my-durant-chrome-refractor-collection.html
I definitely didn't see this rise in prices coming
IMHO, id sell before the bubble burst... And then buy them back when the prices come back down. (WHICH THEY WILL)
spurs50fan
02-13-2017, 09:20 AM
anticipatory jumps which happen almost every year leading up to the playoffs/retirements/as game/etc
EMD34
02-13-2017, 10:28 AM
No way that sale is legit, there are a ton of BINs for about half that price, and the auction I was watching the other day ended at $71.
minnesotachill
02-13-2017, 10:42 AM
The off-season Prizm hype presented a prime opportunity for people to buy up Durant cards at low prices. My only regret is not getting more.
I even traded a Mudiay Prizm Gold/10 for a Durant Chrome Refractor 9.5
imbluestreak23
02-13-2017, 10:54 AM
No way that sale is legit, there are a ton of BINs for about half that price, and the auction I was watching the other day ended at $71.
The card is described as immaculate indicating good for grading. Hence the reason for the high price. A 90/10 O/C card sold yesterday for $41. Condition matters. Interestingly, the buyers of that $170 raw card apparently don't know how to tell if the card is O/C top bottom because that one is. PSA 9 at best.
I'm kicking myself for not hitting the BIN on a BGS 9.5 refractor for $600 2-3 weeks ago. Ugh...
Durantula
02-13-2017, 11:01 AM
http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/basketball/1057577-my-durant-chrome-refractor-collection.html
I definitely didn't see this rise in prices coming
Seems like I was right with my last comment...:D
IMHO, id sell before the bubble burst... And then buy them back when the prices come back down. (WHICH THEY WILL)
No way prices come down until the Playoffs. People are buying now because they see how great KD fits in the GS system. Moreover some say he is the best player on that Team and may will win Finals MVP. So they think prices will be even higher.
It will be interesting to watch.
As of right now, no other KD RCs are going up except these Cards.
COMCMax
02-13-2017, 11:13 AM
Someone literally bought every Topps Chrome Orange Refractor BIN (http://bit.ly/2kjTw1Z) listed yesterday. That wooping he handed the Thunder/Westbrook might have been the nudge his stuff needed.
I suppose he could have a Curry type frenzy if/when Warriors go on their playoff run. There are worse players to gamble on.
jjohnson814
02-13-2017, 11:20 AM
No way that sale is legit, there are a ton of BINs for about half that price, and the auction I was watching the other day ended at $71.
I think it is legit. I won the auction right after that one for $123.
gomiamigo
02-13-2017, 05:12 PM
I have a large Durant PC and got my 9.5 for $156 a while back. Should have gotten the psa 10 and the BGS 10 for ~$200 each instead. Yep, 200.
Got the base 9.5 for $66.
Whites were going for 265, and I never got an orange sigh....
ed: I wonder what my Gold USA Prizm bgs 9.5 and Bowman Chrome Xfractor psa 10 would be worth today?
pejc300
02-14-2017, 10:50 AM
These prices do not make sense at all..$400 for a PSA 10 base? Lebron didn't reach those prices until he won the championship last year...Lebron raw were $120 - $150 last year. I think one person is hitting the BIN on everything and it is having a huge affect on the market. Once he's stops buying these prices will come down.
waulk11
02-14-2017, 04:35 PM
I paid $50 for this along time ago:)!:)!
http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i454/waulk11/Basketball/7CD48559.jpg (http://s1094.photobucket.com/user/waulk11/media/Basketball/7CD48559.jpg.html)
These prices do not make sense at all..$400 for a PSA 10 base? Lebron didn't reach those prices until he won the championship last year...Lebron raw were $120 - $150 last year. I think one person is hitting the BIN on everything and it is having a huge affect on the market. Once he's stops buying these prices will come down.
Pushing $450+ now.
Agree with you though.........Lebron wasn't that high after a couple of rings.
What does it take to get the card to $1k......... #buyersgroup....LOL
dcarado
02-14-2017, 04:47 PM
Right after he went to GS, 9.5 base was going for $100-125, and I sold a bgs 9 refractor for $275. This seems a bit crazy.
Would winning a ring with GS set his prices in Lebron range, or will his stuff drop like Curry's by about July?
I'm thinking the latter.
crazymj
02-14-2017, 05:41 PM
definitely some buyersgroup making push, just like stephen curry topps rc last year. they were pushing $300+ and now they're 1/3 of that. which i think is still really high
thenwhatjk
02-14-2017, 06:03 PM
Does anyone have a contact with the #buyersgroup? I'd like to make some requests for their next subjects
dapro
02-14-2017, 09:02 PM
Someone literally bought every Topps Chrome Orange Refractor BIN (http://bit.ly/2kjTw1Z) listed yesterday. That wooping he handed the Thunder/Westbrook might have been the nudge his stuff needed.
I suppose he could have a Curry type frenzy if/when Warriors go on their playoff run. There are worse players to gamble on.
Maybe I should sell my Chrome Orange Refractor.
Rather have his Spa than the silly overpriced refractor.
COMCMax
02-15-2017, 07:39 AM
Maybe I should sell my Chrome Orange Refractor.
Right now would be a good time. The buyer who snatched them all up paid a premium to do it.
Durantula
02-15-2017, 08:55 AM
Maybe I should sell my Chrome Orange Refractor.
I would wait for playoffs/finals
KD35Russ0
02-15-2017, 10:40 AM
Sold my refractor BGS 9.5 Quad 9.5 subs for $1250 on here. Hopefully it continues to go up for the next collector, but happy to cash out now.
Durantula
02-15-2017, 10:42 AM
Next high. Ok I will really consider selling mine as soon as they are over 1k!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/272552612194
imbluestreak23
02-15-2017, 10:45 AM
Next high. Ok I will really consider selling mine as soon as they are over 1k!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/272552612194
Now this is just crazy! I was wanting to pick one of these up, but not anymore!
titletowncards
02-15-2017, 02:12 PM
Saw this thread and put my Durant Chrome Refractor PSA 9 out there for $899, sold within minutes. I'm glad to cash out at that price, but of course probably could have got more. 10% eBay bucks probably helps the buyer too.
Drdduet
02-15-2017, 02:14 PM
Saw this thread and put my Durant Chrome Refractor PSA 9 out there for $899, sold within minutes. I'm glad to cash out at that price, but of course probably could have got more. 10% eBay bucks probably helps the buyer too.
Profit and don't look back……..but you know he's going to be in the FINALS
gomiamigo
02-15-2017, 03:31 PM
Honestly, how is this not going to be higher in the Finals? Sure, it may cool off first but once they start spanking each playoff team...just seems obvious to me.
Not hating on anyone taking profits though!!
OMG... I almost dumped all my Durant rc refractors after he bailed to GS. Decided to hang onto them and sell them in the playoffs this year. Phew!! Totally didn't realize the Chrome one had gotten this high wow
COMCMax
02-15-2017, 03:34 PM
Profit and don't look back……..but you know he's going to be in the FINALS
Yea, I agree. I think a lot of these prices are with the assumption of them making it pretty deep in playoffs built in. This is pretty crazy for a 1 color Exquisite.
2007-08 EXQUISITE ROOKIE PATCH KEVIN DURANT 84/99 AUTO RC MINT RPA BGS9 10 (http://bit.ly/2lkPhTl)
KD35Russ0
02-15-2017, 05:10 PM
BGS Refractor 9.5 just went for $1700 on ebay
toxicboy27
02-15-2017, 05:22 PM
Regarding these refractors, anybody venture to guess how much of a multiplier would a bgs 10 with 10 centering and corners have over a BGS 9.5 with quad 9.5 subs or higher? There are 311 bgs 9.5's compared to only 21 bgs 10's current (with zero black labels, and 14 with 10 centering and corners).
Is 3x fair, or is that too low? I know that for some players such as Kobe the BGS 10 will sell for like 5x more than the 9.5.
cp3fan
02-15-2017, 05:34 PM
What would the value be for an orange refractor in psa 10?
blastman
02-15-2017, 05:37 PM
this doesn't make any sense to me.
chrome and prizm are up across the board.
it's become the new craze.
pingbling23
02-15-2017, 05:41 PM
What would the value be for an orange refractor in psa 10?
one sold bin on the 12th for 3k.
toxicboy27
02-15-2017, 05:42 PM
What would the value be for an orange refractor in psa 10?
$2500-3000 sounds right to me based on current prices, but sadly I sold my bgs 9.5 a little while back for $1300. :(
dapro
02-15-2017, 05:43 PM
Alright, my orange chrome refractor BGS 9.5 is $2500 or best offer LOL
pingbling23
02-15-2017, 05:43 PM
can these really keep climbing through the finals? im really considering going ahead and listing all my durant rc year stuff. i was planning on waiting until the finals but these prices are ridiculous got a bunch of rc stuff including chrome rc, chrome refractor rc, 06-07 finest silver refractor, and a dual rc auto of him and jeff green.
Durantula
02-15-2017, 05:56 PM
Topps RCs are climbing. UD stuff is still normal, except for some High-ends or RPAs
darscards35kd
02-15-2017, 06:03 PM
I too have some super high end KD- Exquisite RPA /35 BGS 9, TC Ref BGS 10, BC Gold and Black Bgs 9.5, Orange Ref BGS 9 among others, but I just cant bring myself to sell. KD has always been my main PC guy, and for me to sell them all off... the prices would have to get crazy stupid, which they aren't yet.
EMD34
02-15-2017, 06:22 PM
I too have some super high end KD- Exquisite RPA /35 BGS 9, TC Ref BGS 10, BC Gold and Black Bgs 9.5, Orange Ref BGS 9 among others, but I just cant bring myself to sell. KD has always been my main PC guy, and for me to sell them all off... the prices would have to get crazy stupid, which they aren't yet.
There's really no reason to expect his stuff to go down. As weak as moving to GS was, people like winners and KD will be doing a lot of that over the next 5+ years.
imbluestreak23
02-15-2017, 10:35 PM
Topps RCs are climbing. UD stuff is still normal, except for some High-ends or RPAs
This is what makes no sense to me.
Not even flagship Ultimate Collection, SPA, or SPX autos are moving.
Completely defies logic as these would be my go to rookies outside of exquisite.
Archangel1775
02-15-2017, 10:52 PM
Damn, I could have owned a PSA 10 for $2500 but I passed.
darscards35kd
02-16-2017, 04:10 AM
Sweet mother of Jesus... I'm not gonna say what card it is, but I just sold a card for $3k!!
mrchipz
02-16-2017, 04:16 AM
I have seen this for the pat year now. Chrome & Prizm cards just keep climbing!! its not gonna stop either. the collectors are speaking and thats what they want. i prefer chrome/prizm rookies over autos as well. i love them. this card is not coming down anytime soon. most likely never now. 1st it was lebron chromes, then curry/harden all though those are more sp, then westbrook, now durant, and we are seeing Giannis and Isaiah thomas will be next. Giannis prizms are already hitting $35 for raw and a prizm silver refractor of giannis raw just brought $460 yesterday! only a matter of time.
COMCMax
02-16-2017, 06:34 AM
Seeing some cool stuff come out of the woodwork. Along with more crazy prices.
KEVIN DURANT 2007-08 BOWMAN STERLING GOLD REFRACTOR ROOKIE RC 1/15 GEM BGS (http://bit.ly/2llm0Ip)
darscards35kd
02-16-2017, 08:54 AM
Seeing some cool stuff come out of the woodwork. Along with more crazy prices.
KEVIN DURANT 2007-08 BOWMAN STERLING GOLD REFRACTOR ROOKIE RC 1/15 GEM BGS (http://bit.ly/2llm0Ip)
This was the card I was referencing in my above post, this was my sale. :D
Archangel1775
02-16-2017, 10:32 AM
Who would have thought KD being added to the Warriors would make them a better team and they'd reach the Finals again.....for the 3rd year....in a row.....I had no idea. I think KD is a Hall of Famer now that he's with this team.
thenwhatjk
02-16-2017, 10:36 AM
This was the card I was referencing in my above post, this was my sale. :D
Good lord, the box topper?? Congrats man amazing sale!
Saraste
02-16-2017, 12:54 PM
I need some opinions...I do not do much grading. In fact, the only submission I have ever done was through SGC when they were at a show in this area about 2 years ago. I submitted a Durant chrome refractor (as well as a Finest refractor) that came back gem 98. PSA is coming down here to Palmetto, FL next weekend (for those in the area who want to come with things to submit).
First, how much does the fact that it is in a SGC holder drop the relative value vs. PSA or BGS? If it is significant, do I attempt to do a crossover to get a PSA 10 and how much does that cost? I am rather ignorant when it comes to crossovers. Do I say only crack only if it is a 10? How does that work?
I am doing a submission through them regardless. I have a base chrome that I reasonably certain will come back a 10 and some other things already lined up.
Drdduet
02-16-2017, 02:09 PM
I need some opinions...I do not do much grading. In fact, the only submission I have ever done was through SGC when they were at a show in this area about 2 years ago. I submitted a Durant chrome refractor (as well as a Finest refractor) that came back gem 98. PSA is coming down here to Palmetto, FL next weekend (for those in the area who want to come with things to submit).
First, how much does the fact that it is in a SGC holder drop the relative value vs. PSA or BGS? If it is significant, do I attempt to do a crossover to get a PSA 10 and how much does that cost? I am rather ignorant when it comes to crossovers. Do I say only crack only if it is a 10? How does that work?
I am doing a submission through them regardless. I have a base chrome that I reasonably certain will come back a 10 and some other things already lined up.
IMO, crack it out of that SGC holder and shoot for a PSA 10. SGC is not the "in thing" in modern cards, PSA is. Heck if it even comes back a PSA 9, it's still a more desirable card to many than is a SGC 98.
SGC does a good job and is on par with PSA as far as grading goes, it's just that PSA appeals to many more in the card business--especially those spending big money. Good luck!
COMCMax
02-18-2017, 01:17 PM
A big boy listed. I wouldn't know how to price it. Could you imagine what a Kobe Topps Chrome Refractor Jersey #'d would get these days.
1/1 BGS 9.5 KEVIN DURANT 2007-08 TOPPS CHROME REFRACTOR JERSEY # 35/1499 *RARE* (http://bit.ly/2lVzUBM)
A big boy listed. I wouldn't know how to price it. Could you imagine what a Kobe Topps Chrome Refractor Jersey #'d would get these days.
1/1 BGS 9.5 KEVIN DURANT 2007-08 TOPPS CHROME REFRACTOR JERSEY # 35/1499 *RARE* (http://bit.ly/2lVzUBM)
WHOA!!!!!!!!
gomiamigo
02-18-2017, 03:13 PM
I too have some super high end KD- Exquisite RPA /35 BGS 9, TC Ref BGS 10, BC Gold and Black Bgs 9.5, Orange Ref BGS 9 among others, but I just cant bring myself to sell. KD has always been my main PC guy, and for me to sell them all off... the prices would have to get crazy stupid, which they aren't yet.
Same here bro! Imagine if he wins 2-3 titles and another MVP or 2 in the next 5 years. I don't know if I'd ever sell the majority of my cards.
gomiamigo
02-18-2017, 03:24 PM
This was the card I was referencing in my above post, this was my sale. :D
Nice. I have a BGS black10 # :D/50.
Saraste
02-18-2017, 04:06 PM
Makes me wish I hadn't sold my Bowman Chrome Xfractor /50 for $160 back in 2011. :doh:
I understand that Topps Chrome is king and all, but I am quite surprised that the Bowman Chrome rookies have not also spiked, being serial numbered and all. There are undoubtedly more than 2999 Topps Chrome rookies out there.
COMCMax
02-19-2017, 07:19 AM
This was the card I was referencing in my above post, this was my sale. :D
I just looked what you paid for it on worthpoint. You might have won flip of the year :)!
COMCMax
02-19-2017, 03:48 PM
This sold for $683.00 (http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2007-08-topps-chrome-refractor-131-1806336432) (worthpoint) this time last year.
2007-08 Topps Chrome Refractor #131 Kevin Durant Rookie RC BGS 10 Pristine (http://bit.ly/2lkdoiK)
darscards35kd
02-19-2017, 06:56 PM
This sold for $683.00 (http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2007-08-topps-chrome-refractor-131-1806336432) (worthpoint) this time last year.
2007-08 Topps Chrome Refractor #131 Kevin Durant Rookie RC BGS 10 Pristine (http://bit.ly/2lkdoiK)
I paid $800 for mine about a year and a half ago :eek::)!
ninjacookies
02-19-2017, 07:01 PM
A big boy listed. I wouldn't know how to price it. Could you imagine what a Kobe Topps Chrome Refractor Jersey #'d would get these days.
1/1 BGS 9.5 KEVIN DURANT 2007-08 TOPPS CHROME REFRACTOR JERSEY # 35/1499 *RARE* (http://bit.ly/2lVzUBM)
Our resident Idol. Pretty much hoards every best jersey numbered card of the best players of every sport and showcases them on his Ebay account at prices that rarely gets them moved. Creative way to flickr humble-brag.
EMD34
02-19-2017, 07:20 PM
This sold for $683.00 (http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2007-08-topps-chrome-refractor-131-1806336432) (worthpoint) this time last year.
2007-08 Topps Chrome Refractor #131 Kevin Durant Rookie RC BGS 10 Pristine (http://bit.ly/2lkdoiK)
That seems really cheap, I sold a Pristine base rookie for $500 a little over a year ago.
darscards35kd
02-19-2017, 07:24 PM
That seems really cheap, I sold a Pristine base rookie for $500 a little over a year ago.
I remember the sale. I was watching it and missed the auction because I wasn't home. Now that hurts :mad:
darscards35kd
02-19-2017, 07:25 PM
I just looked what you paid for it on worthpoint. You might have won flip of the year :)!
Thanks. I've had some pretty good flips, but this one definitely takes the cake for me haha. I really don't even want to move my KD stuff but the money is extremely tempting right now, especially since I'm just returning from 6 months abroad and blew through a lot of funds during that time.
thor_rider08
02-20-2017, 02:56 AM
Wow.. I guess its time to unload some kds? I'm on business but my goodness these have exploded 0_o
https://photos.smugmug.com/Durantula/i-MMVCh5v/0/M/durantbgs95-M.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/Durantula/i-jRNQ372/0/M/kdchrome10-M.jpg
Seeing some cool stuff come out of the woodwork. Along with more crazy prices.
KEVIN DURANT 2007-08 BOWMAN STERLING GOLD REFRACTOR ROOKIE RC 1/15 GEM BGS (http://bit.ly/2llm0Ip)
WOW.. Man I missed out on one last year for 300$ raw 0_o ughh I needed it to complete the rainbow but holy cow that's out of the question now 0_o
Congrats on cashing in!!
https://photos.smugmug.com/Durantula/i-tLKsFtJ/0/M/durantsterling1-M.jpg
COMCMax
02-20-2017, 05:58 PM
What would the value be for an orange refractor in psa 10?
One just sold for $3800.
KEVIN DURANT 2007-08 TOPPS CHROME ROOKIE ORANGE REFRACTOR /199 PSA 10 GEM POP 7 (http://bit.ly/2lopR57)
cp3fan
02-20-2017, 06:50 PM
One just sold for $3800.
KEVIN DURANT 2007-08 TOPPS CHROME ROOKIE ORANGE REFRACTOR /199 PSA 10 GEM POP 7 (http://bit.ly/2lopR57)
Wow. That's crazy. Bought one years ago for 900. Don't have it anymore.
Pathora
02-20-2017, 07:51 PM
Can't imagine holding on to a ton of these chrome rookies, but I bought a bgs 9.5 (min grade one) for $60 about when he joined the Warriors. That was a good purchase, but at around the same time I passed on buying a James Harden Topps Chrome Refractor for like $150.
dapro
02-20-2017, 09:15 PM
I am so tempted to let it go now, I think I might have to let it go.... even though I am a huge dubs fan...
Durantula
02-21-2017, 12:06 AM
New high for ungraded:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/192104641248
A SPA RPA /299 also sold tonight for $752.
Have Refractor/Prizm RCs already overtaken RC Autos or RPAs?
mrchipz
02-21-2017, 01:48 AM
New high for ungraded:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/192104641248
A SPA RPA /299 also sold tonight for $752.
Have Refractor/Prizm RCs already overtaken RC Autos or RPAs?
i think they have. id rather have a nice refractor or colored refractor over a auto rc. there just to plentiful from too many products. chrome is king. only 1 of those.
gomiamigo
02-21-2017, 01:48 PM
Confused, there's thousands of refractors, certainly not that many KD RC autos from his rookie year [esp if you don't count low-end products and sticker autos].
SPA, Black, Chrono, Exq, Ultimate, Premier -- def fewer autos than refractors but of course everyone likes different things. :)
imbluestreak23
02-21-2017, 02:24 PM
Still think that the hierarchy of KD cards should be something like this:
1) Exquisite
2) Ultimate Collection /150
3) SP Authentic RPA BGS 9 condition or better (as most are BGS 6-8)
4) SP Authentic Auto /399
5) Topps Chrome Refractor
6A) UD Chronology True RC /99
6B) UD Black Auto True RC
7) Topps Chrome base
.
.
.
Durantula
02-21-2017, 02:40 PM
Still think that the hierarchy of KD cards should be something like this:
1) Exquisite
2) Ultimate Collection /150
3) SP Authentic RPA BGS 9 condition or better (as most are BGS 6-8)
4) SP Authentic Auto /399
5) Topps Chrome Refractor
6A) UD Chronology True RC /99
6B) UD Black Auto True RC
7) Topps Chrome base
.
.
.
Seems about right. I go like this:
1. Exquisites
2. UD Black /99
3. SP Authentic /299
4. Topps Chrome Refractor
5. Ultimate /150
6. Chronology True RC /99
7. SP Authentic /399
8. Topps Chrome Base
Finest, Bowman...
Confused, there's thousands of refractors, certainly not that many KD RC autos from his rookie year [esp if you don't count low-end products and sticker autos].
SPA, Black, Chrono, Exq, Ultimate, Premier -- def fewer autos than refractors but of course everyone likes different things. :)
My theory is people believe the Topps Chrome is gonna be the Durant iconic Rookie to have like MJs 86 Fleer and Lebrons 03 Topps Chrome.
Plus look how much KD has signed for Panini the past few years. If want a KD Auto for your collection They are plentiful and some are dirt cheap.
cp3fan
02-21-2017, 02:55 PM
Seems about right. I go like this:
1. Exquisites
2. UD Black /99
3. SP Authentic /299
4. Topps Chrome Refractor
5. Ultimate /150
6. Chronology True RC /99
7. SP Authentic /399
8. Topps Chrome Base
Finest, Bowman...
This list seems pretty accurate to me
ichirorox
02-21-2017, 02:55 PM
My theory is people believe the Topps Chrome is gonna be the Durant iconic Rookie to have like MJs 86 Fleer and Lebrons 03 Topps Chrome.
Plus look how much KD has signed for Panini the past few years. If want a KD Auto for your collection They are plentiful and some are dirt cheap.
Out of all of the iconic LeBron rookies, you pick Topps Chrome?
cp3fan
02-21-2017, 03:26 PM
My theory is people believe the Topps Chrome is gonna be the Durant iconic Rookie to have like MJs 86 Fleer and Lebrons 03 Topps Chrome.
Plus look how much KD has signed for Panini the past few years. If want a KD Auto for your collection They are plentiful and some are dirt cheap.
Don't see chrome passing the exquisite /99. That is still the durant rookie to own. Also, the Lebron exquisite rpa is way more iconic than the topps chrome (any version). Exquisite is pretty much king of rookies from 2003-2008
titletowncards
02-21-2017, 04:00 PM
Don't see chrome passing the exquisite /99. That is still the durant rookie to own. Also, the Lebron exquisite rpa is way more iconic than the topps chrome (any version). Exquisite is pretty much king of rookies from 2003-2008
Exquisite might be the most iconic but hardly the most desirable among the common collector. I can afford a Topps Chrome RC of LeBron or Durant. Their also easier to move if needed. At different grades most people can afford a Fleer Jordan RC as well.
gomiamigo
02-21-2017, 05:22 PM
Damn, I could have owned a PSA 10 for $2500 but I passed.
Try $200.00
:mad:
Out of all of the iconic LeBron rookies, you pick Topps Chrome?
Outside of rookie autos.
Don't see chrome passing the exquisite /99. That is still the durant rookie to own. Also, the Lebron exquisite rpa is way more iconic than the topps chrome (any version). Exquisite is pretty much king of rookies from 2003-2008
Agreed. I think the Squiz /99 will be to top rookie auto of Lebron to own.
toxicboy27
02-21-2017, 05:46 PM
Chrome has replaced Exquisite as king, just like KD will replace Bron after this season is over!! ok j/k
but realistically, i think people are waking up to the fact that for investment purposes the Topps chrome is the way to go as the brand has had a better track record than most. Yes other cards are way rarer, but most buyers don't care about that. They are attracted to the fact that Kobe and Lebron also have Topps Chrome RC's and how much those sell for. It's perceived as being a safer bet than brands such as Exquisite which has been tarnished in recent years. There are other factors which also act to promote Chrome as being considered the iconic card such as the realization that for the most part, patches and auto's are a gimmick and no longer coveted as before. Another factor is the advent of Panini. People think Prizm is the modern chrome, but if anything it just makes people appreciate the original more. The longer Panini is around and flooding the market with junk the more appealing brands like Chrome become. Factor this with the fact that now KD is in a major market and positioned to do some big things (by big, i mean historic) with the Warriors, it's not hard to figure out why the prices of the chrome are going up still. Not only is there's just way more demand from people for the chrome, but the price they are able to pay is much higher than in the past. It's a perfect storm of events and may still be in its early stages.
imbluestreak23
02-21-2017, 07:09 PM
I mean a PSA 10 lebron SPA outsells Chrome refractor PSA 10 2:1? An Ultimate collection PSA 10 outsells a Topps Chrome refractor PSA 10 4-5:1?
SPA and Ultimate on card auto KDs are very underpriced relatively when using that analogy, but I could be way off base in the long run
ChampCards
02-21-2017, 10:47 PM
what the heck. i just checked Durant Chrome Refractor and its over 1K!!! Whats with the super value raise lately??
COMCMax
02-22-2017, 06:41 AM
First gem white chrome sale since his stuff went nuclear ($4850).
Kevin Durant 2007 Topps Chrome RC White Refractor /99 SP BGS 9.5 (http://bit.ly/2l7sk2V)
COMCMax
02-23-2017, 06:57 AM
Anyone get this BIN? They have been getting $400-450+. I just missed it.
2007-08 Topps Chrome KEVIN DURANT RC Rookie Gem Mint PSA 10 WARRIORS THUNDER (http://bit.ly/2ltHfHp)
gomiamigo
02-23-2017, 11:11 AM
I mean a PSA 10 lebron SPA outsells Chrome refractor PSA 10 2:1? An Ultimate collection PSA 10 outsells a Topps Chrome refractor PSA 10 4-5:1?
SPA and Ultimate on card auto KDs are very underpriced relatively when using that analogy, but I could be way off base in the long run
I totally agree, but I suppose Chrome could be starting a longer-term bubble for guys like LBJ and KD.
But I feel like we know this is at least starting a bubble.
COMCMax
02-23-2017, 11:32 AM
I totally agree, but I suppose Chrome could be starting a longer-term bubble for guys like LBJ and KD.
But I feel like we know this is at least starting a bubble.
It seems like the hobby is coming full circle. Vintage has gotten very popular again and there isn't a autograph, patch, or any gimmick to it. I think long term collectors have more confidence in just a regular ol run of the mill cardboard rookie. You don't have to worry about fake patches, fading autographs, or which RPA to choose from. I'm not saying RPA's are going to lose their following/value ,but I think when it comes to the masses simple is better.
COMCMax
02-26-2017, 06:13 AM
Checkout the centering on this ugly duckling. There's a reason this whole set went for $50.
2007-2008 Topps Chrome Basketball Complete Set Kevin Durant Rookie (http://bit.ly/2ln0wYs)
pejc300
02-26-2017, 03:20 PM
Looks like these are cooling down a bit. Curious to see what happens next.
KD35Russ0
02-26-2017, 03:24 PM
Looks like these are cooling down a bit. Curious to see what happens next.
If they make the anticipated Final run, I'd say the resurface at this level, but I can't imagine they could go much higher.
CubKings
02-26-2017, 04:48 PM
So raw base are in the 90s now? Damn.
I don't do grading, but what could this get?
https://sportscardalbum.com/c/5mg2mo13.jpg
jcmel323
02-26-2017, 08:41 PM
So raw base are in the 90s now? Damn.
I don't do grading, but what could this get?
https://sportscardalbum.com/c/5mg2mo13.jpg
IMO
bgs 9
centering 8.5
edges 9.5
corner 9
surface 9.5
you could sell it for around 145 once graded
kiddpanda
02-26-2017, 09:35 PM
Regarding these refractors, anybody venture to guess how much of a multiplier would a bgs 10 with 10 centering and corners have over a BGS 9.5 with quad 9.5 subs or higher? There are 311 bgs 9.5's compared to only 21 bgs 10's current (with zero black labels, and 14 with 10 centering and corners).
Is 3x fair, or is that too low? I know that for some players such as Kobe the BGS 10 will sell for like 5x more than the 9.5.
someone on eBay offered me $6800 for my BGS10 KD CHROME RC REFRACTOR.
ChampCards
02-26-2017, 10:19 PM
someone on eBay offered me $6800 for my BGS10 KD CHROME RC REFRACTOR.
did you sell it?
LuckySlayer
02-26-2017, 11:22 PM
Sold my bgs 9.5 refractor with 10 centering and rest 9.5s 6 months ago for $300 plus shipping. :doh: I was leaving the hobby but now I'm back
kiddpanda
02-27-2017, 01:17 AM
did you sell it?
nope haha... because its serial number is also my birthday and KD was my hero(not anymore since he left OKC), this card is pretty much priceless lol... for me to sell it, price has to be crazy:P
COMCMax
02-27-2017, 07:40 AM
http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae133/yucheng35/WechatIMG2_zpstdyqf3j0.jpeg
For Syphilisboy27 who does not believe me and sent me rude messages.
Welcome to the internet lol...This one sold for more than that.
2007-08 Topps Chrome Refractor #131 Kevin Durant Rookie RC BGS 10 Pristine (http://bit.ly/2lkdoiK)
Durantula
02-27-2017, 11:31 AM
nope haha... because its serial number is also my birthday and KD was my hero(not anymore since he left OKC), this card is pretty much priceless lol... for me to sell it, price has to be crazy:P
I think that price is already crazy enough. Look at the sales a few weeks back.
Even if prices have come down a bit they have reached a certain level and will maintain it until the playoffs/finals.
toxicboy27
02-27-2017, 03:11 PM
http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae133/yucheng35/WechatIMG2_zpstdyqf3j0.jpeg
For Syphilisboy27 who does not believe me and sent me rude messages.
Having a pic show that you declined a bid doesn't mean jack. You think people don't have multiple accounts on ebay or on the internet.
To be clear to the board he says i was being rude to him because i asked if he would hook me up with the bidder for a fee and he said outright that he wouldn't and i called bs on him. He got offended and retaliates by trying to associate my userid with a std. Very classy move!
And for the record I have one on sale on ebay (with better subs) that I'd be willing to move at a lower price than what he said he has gotten an offer on. I think the price will go higher but it would be foolish for me not to at least consider selling at that price now.
COMCMax
02-27-2017, 03:30 PM
Having a pic show that you declined a bid doesn't mean jack. You think people don't have multiple accounts on ebay or on the internet.
To be clear to the board he says i was being rude to him because i asked if he would hook me up with the bidder for a fee and he said outright that he wouldn't and i called bs on him. He got offended and retaliates by trying to associate my userid with a std. Very classy move!
And for the record I have one on sale on ebay (with better subs) that I'd be willing to move at a lower price than what he said he has gotten an offer on. I think the price will go higher but it would be foolish for me not to at least consider selling at that price now.
Having a sale over a week ago for more than the offer says otherwise. Questioning offers on one of the hottest cards in the hobby seems foolish.
PS: Wouldn't one with better subs be a BGS 10 Black label?
toxicboy27
02-27-2017, 03:46 PM
Welcome to the internet lol...This one sold for more than that.
2007-08 Topps Chrome Refractor #131 Kevin Durant Rookie RC BGS 10 Pristine (http://bit.ly/2lkdoiK)
Having a sale over a week ago for more than the offer says otherwise. Questioning offers on one of the hottest cards in the hobby seems foolish.
PS: Wouldn't one with better subs be a BGS 10 Black label?
Well, considering that centering and corners are usually prioritized over surface and edges I would say a card can have better subs without having to be a higher grade. By your logic, all graded cards should share the same perceived value as long as they have the same total grade.
pingbling23
02-27-2017, 03:52 PM
They will be going crazy when he gets finals MVP and wins his first title come June. I'm holding out until then.
COMCMax
02-27-2017, 03:54 PM
Well, considering that centering and corners are usually prioritized over surface and edges I would say a card can have better subs without having to be a higher grade. By your logic, all graded cards should share the same perceived value as long as they have the same total grade.
By your logic someone with 885 positive feedback on Ebay with 100% feedback is faking best offers and posting them on a message board to create hype on one of the hottest cards in the hobby.
toxicboy27
02-27-2017, 03:58 PM
By your logic someone with 885 positive feedback on Ebay with 100% feedback is faking best offers and posting them on a message board to create hype on one of the hottest cards in the hobby.
drop it man, your pumping is getting old
Archangel1775
02-27-2017, 04:05 PM
They will be going crazy when he gets finals MVP and wins his first title come June. I'm holding out until then.
He's on the Warriors that were stacked by homegrown talent to begin with. Current prices have a title already built into them. There is no more crazy. He's not Tom Brady. :)
toxicboy27
02-27-2017, 04:07 PM
He's on the Warriors that were stacked by homegrown talent to begin with. Current prices have a title already built into them. There is no more crazy. He's not Tom Brady. :)
If they manage to win it all this year and the team's core can remain intact until next season, prices will go much higher imo. People underestimate the amount of $$$ available from the GS Warriors and basketball card fan base.
pingbling23
02-27-2017, 04:11 PM
He's on the Warriors that were stacked by homegrown talent to begin with. Current prices have a title already built into them. There is no more crazy. He's not Tom Brady. :)
My bank account hopes you are wrong.
minnesotachill
02-27-2017, 04:16 PM
guys who play in California seem to get a lot of hobby love.
Kobe, Curry, Mike Trout in baseball. Looks like Durant is ready to join them.
COMCMax
02-27-2017, 04:19 PM
drop it man, your pumping is getting old
Says the guy with 21 post this year...all in Kevin Durant threads with a Durant avatar :)!
toxicboy27
02-27-2017, 04:31 PM
Says the guy with 21 post this year...all in Kevin Durant threads with a Durant avatar :)!
My 21 posts in the last 365 days barely exceeds the posts you've made in this single thread alone.
And for the record, I also make posts which bash Lebron also! :)
titletowncards
02-27-2017, 04:37 PM
If he wins a couple titles with GS then returns to OKC and wins one there now we're talking! Wait what?
COMCMax
02-27-2017, 05:25 PM
My 21 posts in the last 365 days barely exceeds the posts you've made in this single thread alone.
And for the record, I also make posts which bash Lebron also! :)
If my six comments in this 5 page thread ran up Durant prices then I guess I'm da real MVP :flex:
pejc300
02-27-2017, 05:33 PM
drop it man, your pumping is getting old
I was going to say this earlier. This thread is beginning to remind me of those Jordan Star threads. Same dudes over and over bumping it time and time again and COMCMAX seems to be the primary culprit.
And yes, buyers with high feedback posting fake offers is EXACTLY what people do to pump up cards...
COMCMax
02-27-2017, 06:02 PM
I was going to say this earlier. This thread is beginning to remind me of those Jordan Star threads. Same dudes over and over bumping it time and time again and COMCMAX seems to be the primary culprit.
And yes, buyers with high feedback posting fake offers is EXACTLY what people do to pump up cards...
I don't own any Durant cards. I participate in threads because I enjoy the hobby whether I'm invested or not ,but on that note...I will bow out of this one.
edit..I did own a Durant card.
Give back to Blowout Members Contest (Durant 07-08 Upper Deck Premier RPA /99) (http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/basketball/1054155-give-back-blowout-members-contest-durant-07-08-upper-deck-premier-rpa-99-a.html)
cargs21
02-27-2017, 07:20 PM
If my six comments in this 5 page thread ran up Durant prices then I guess I'm da real MVP :flex:
If you can do this with 6 posts, would you mind commenting on a couple Giannis threads once or twice and help me out? :)
The heavy (real heavy) hitters that buy this stuff at premiums aren't on the boards and don't make themselves known.
toxicboy27
02-27-2017, 08:08 PM
If my six comments in this 5 page thread ran up Durant prices then I guess I'm da real MVP :flex:
I don't own any Durant cards. I participate in threads because I enjoy the hobby whether I'm invested or not ,but on that note...I will bow out of this one.
edit..I did own a Durant card.
Give back to Blowout Members Contest (Durant 07-08 Upper Deck Premier RPA /99) (http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/basketball/1054155-give-back-blowout-members-contest-durant-07-08-upper-deck-premier-rpa-99-a.html)
I remember that contest. It was very generous and probably one of the better ones that have ever been in these forums. :)!
kiddpanda
02-27-2017, 08:24 PM
Having a pic show that you declined a bid doesn't mean jack. You think people don't have multiple accounts on ebay or on the internet.
To be clear to the board he says i was being rude to him because i asked if he would hook me up with the bidder for a fee and he said outright that he wouldn't and i called bs on him. He got offended and retaliates by trying to associate my userid with a std. Very classy move!
And for the record I have one on sale on ebay (with better subs) that I'd be willing to move at a lower price than what he said he has gotten an offer on. I think the price will go higher but it would be foolish for me not to at least consider selling at that price now.
I just don't think it is ethical to sell out my buyers information to you punk. Why are you so bitter and so much hate? Do you realize how tough you are on internet? Yes I have two eBay accounts, one being visvim_fan and the other is banagher_links.
I am not faking anything because it is meaningless and I don't live by selling cards.
You are just pathetic mate, chill out and relax and stoping thinking everyone is "EVIL" in this world.
Let's just shake hands and get over this.
COMCMax
02-27-2017, 08:42 PM
I remember that contest. It was very generous and probably one of the better ones that have ever been in these forums. :)!
http://i.imgur.com/PUEt7ah.gif
KD35Russ0
02-27-2017, 10:27 PM
I don't own any Durant cards. I participate in threads because I enjoy the hobby whether I'm invested or not ,but on that note...I will bow out of this one.
edit..I did own a Durant card.
Give back to Blowout Members Contest (Durant 07-08 Upper Deck Premier RPA /99) (http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/basketball/1054155-give-back-blowout-members-contest-durant-07-08-upper-deck-premier-rpa-99-a.html)
This was a great contest. Sad that this thread has gone this way
Archangel1775
03-01-2017, 11:22 AM
I think that price is already crazy enough. Look at the sales a few weeks back.
Even if prices have come down a bit they have reached a certain level and will maintain it until the playoffs/finals.
They will be going crazy when he gets finals MVP and wins his first title come June. I'm holding out until then.
If they manage to win it all this year and the team's core can remain intact until next season, prices will go much higher imo. People underestimate the amount of $$$ available from the GS Warriors and basketball card fan base.
Will Durant missing the rest of the regular season and likely the 1st round of the playoffs effect current values? ;)
Darn, I should have sold my BGS 9.5 refractor for $5,000 :)
gomiamigo
03-01-2017, 12:00 PM
Why do you care about 'current' values as opposed to when he comes back healthy? It's only a few weeks away according to recent reports. Plenty of time for the playoff run.
ChampCards
03-01-2017, 12:11 PM
Will Durant missing the rest of the regular season and likely the 1st round of the playoffs effect current values? ;)
Darn, I should have sold my BGS 9.5 refractor for $5,000 :)
same, wonder if its too late to sell now? Is the price going to come down immediately?
Will Durant missing the rest of the regular season and likely the 1st round of the playoffs effect current values? ;)
Darn, I should have sold my BGS 9.5 refractor for $5,000 :)
There will be a drop I am sure.
MCL sprain and bone bruise he should bounce back quick. They prob will rehab him up real good but bring him back slow. They already clinched a playoff spot.
pingbling23
03-01-2017, 01:18 PM
You all can thank me for this. Anytime I gamble and hold out to sale something like this happens.
toxicboy27
03-01-2017, 01:40 PM
You all can thank me for this. Anytime I gamble and hold out to sale something like this happens.
Knock on wood but the injury might actually turn out to be a blessing in disguise for you. A KD comeback right in time for playoffs to save a possibly struggling Warriors team that ends up winning the championship could play right into a comeback hero narrative that can electrify fans and set in stone a epic chapter in his legacy!! :)
toxicboy27
03-01-2017, 01:44 PM
Will Durant missing the rest of the regular season and likely the 1st round of the playoffs effect current values? ;)
Darn, I should have sold my BGS 9.5 refractor for $5,000 :)
It's gonna be a long month (or more) for KD investors.
But fortunately the tentative prognosis turned out to be on the more favorable side of what it could have actually turned out to be and the Warriors are still favorites. I still believe if they win it this year with KD's help, prices will go higher--but now there's a lot more uncertainty in the mix.
pingbling23
03-01-2017, 01:45 PM
Knock on wood but the injury might actually turn out to be a blessing in disguise for you. A KD comeback right in time for playoffs to save a possibly struggling Warriors team that ends up winning the championship could play right into a comeback hero narrative that can electrify fans and set in stone a epic chapter in his legacy!! :)
Please please please lol. Damn the card prices, I just hope kd gets back to 100% as soon as possible. I hate injuries for players and just want him healthy regardless if i have stuff to sell or not.
pejc300
03-01-2017, 02:00 PM
I love how all of the sudden the Warriors are going to "struggle" without KD. Right.
toxicboy27
03-01-2017, 02:05 PM
I love how all of the sudden the Warriors are going to "struggle" without KD. Right.
Well they did lose last night without KD and will now have to adjust to replacing the presence that he had on the team which was pretty immense (scoring, rebounds, blocks, minutes). Curry has not been the dominant force he was in the previous 2 years. They play the Rockets and Spurs twice before the end of the season. It's not gonna be easy for the Warriors to hang on to the #1 seed.
Archangel1775
03-01-2017, 03:29 PM
The Warriors will adjust and be fine. Klay and Draymond will make up for the stat sheet KD added previously. This is why it's a surprise to me how fast these Chrome cards are shooting up suddenly. KD was already on a HOF path and his previous team was rather successful. His prices had all of that already built in. But suddenly because he's on the Warriors and could POSSIBLY be the Finals MVP, they are worth thousands upon thousands?
toxicboy27
03-01-2017, 03:34 PM
The Warriors will adjust and be fine. Klay and Draymond will make up for the stat sheet KD added previously. This is why it's a surprise to me how fast these Chrome cards are shooting up suddenly. KD was already on a HOF path and his previous team was rather successful. His prices had all of that already built in. But suddenly because he's on the Warriors and could POSSIBLY be the Finals MVP, they are worth thousands upon thousands?
You're correct in your points about KD being on a HOF track already but you failed to acknowledge the effect that playing for a team like the GS has on the demand of his cards.
Archangel1775
03-01-2017, 08:18 PM
You're correct in your points about KD being on a HOF track already but you failed to acknowledge the effect that playing for a team like the GS has on the demand of his cards.
Good point, as a Warriors fan, I know better than to spend $1K on a Gem Mint KD card. Additionally, GS doesn't have the fan following like LA or Boston. So I'd imagine your leaning towards the "money" in the Bay Area". It's tough to say but I'd imagine you could have two dumb as**es with money bidding them up.
pejc300
03-03-2017, 11:53 PM
Wow...BGS 9.5 sold for $215 today. Last week they were $325. Talk about a free fall. PSA 10' down $100 as well.
COMCMax
03-04-2017, 09:33 AM
Wow...BGS 9.5 sold for $215 today. Last week they were $325. Talk about a free fall. PSA 10' down $100 as well.
His refractors are softening up a bit to. The re-evaluation follow up in 4 weeks will be huge for his cards this season. They'll bounce back either way.
2007-08 Topps Chrome Refractor #131 Kevin Durant /1499 RC (http://bit.ly/2m5MBap)
NeedChapmans
03-04-2017, 09:58 AM
His refractors are softening up a bit to. The re-evaluation follow up in 4 weeks will be huge for his cards this season. They'll bounce back either way.
2007-08 Topps Chrome Refractor #131 Kevin Durant /1499 RC (http://bit.ly/2m5MBap)
It doesn't work like that. Once cards start to fall, they don't stop. Only a Durant led NBA title will stop the deterioration.
ChampCards
03-04-2017, 10:08 AM
It doesn't work like that. Once cards start to fall, they don't stop. Only a Durant led NBA title will stop the deterioration.
so you'd say sell durant asap, cause its just gonna keep fallling?
toxicboy27
03-04-2017, 10:48 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI7y0ZNPP8E
He'll be back in no time. Just watch this video of KD Warrior highlights from this season and chill.
toxicboy27
03-04-2017, 10:50 AM
Good point, as a Warriors fan, I know better than to spend $1K on a Gem Mint KD card. Additionally, GS doesn't have the fan following like LA or Boston. So I'd imagine your leaning towards the "money" in the Bay Area". It's tough to say but I'd imagine you could have two dumb as**es with money bidding them up.
there are quite a lot of Warriors/KD fans who spend $2k or more on those same cards you won't spend $1k on.
toxicboy27
03-04-2017, 10:51 AM
It doesn't work like that. Once cards start to fall, they don't stop. Only a Durant led NBA title will stop the deterioration.
Hope the same thing doesn't happen to Lebron if he chokes this year lol :doh:
NeedChapmans
03-04-2017, 11:24 AM
so you'd say sell durant asap, cause its just gonna keep fallling?
I'm saying that with a large supply, once cards stop rising and immediately begin to fall, it's nearly impossible to make them stop because the demand was already so saturated on the way up, there isn't any on the way down. It will take a feat of epic proportions to wake up the supply side of Durant chrome RC's.
Otherwise, it becomes hard to justify his prices. Keep in mind that in January of 2016, LeBron Chrome RC's graded PSA 10 were selling for $300. He already had six NBA finals, 2 rings, a lot of MVP's and on track to be a top five player of all time. Durant is selling for $360 right now and what does he have to show for it? One finals appearance, one MVP and now a real chance to miss out on his first title.
It will be impossible to justify a Durant PSA 10 for $300 a this time next year without a title. That simple.
NeedChapmans
03-04-2017, 11:25 AM
Hope the same thing doesn't happen to Lebron if he chokes this year lol :doh:
I've sold out of LeBron except for the chrome golds. When prices went from $300 to $1,000 in 14 months, it was time for me to go. Prices on LeBron have blown up, so happy to take my profits and move on.
ChampCards
03-04-2017, 12:45 PM
I've sold out of LeBron except for the chrome golds. When prices went from $300 to $1,000 in 14 months, it was time for me to go. Prices on LeBron have blown up, so happy to take my profits and move on.
You guys don't think lebron will keep going up? I think they still have room to go up up up, space jam 2, potentially another championship, nike lifetime deal, and the media will always keep talking about lebron
he will just adjust his game as he declines and might even might more 3s later on in his career and become a really good and consistent 3pt shooter.
daeve
03-04-2017, 01:37 PM
I'm saying that with a large supply, once cards stop rising and immediately begin to fall, it's nearly impossible to make them stop because the demand was already so saturated on the way up, there isn't any on the way down. It will take a feat of epic proportions to wake up the supply side of Durant chrome RC's.
Otherwise, it becomes hard to justify his prices. Keep in mind that in January of 2016, LeBron Chrome RC's graded PSA 10 were selling for $300. He already had six NBA finals, 2 rings, a lot of MVP's and on track to be a top five player of all time. Durant is selling for $360 right now and what does he have to show for it? One finals appearance, one MVP and now a real chance to miss out on his first title.
It will be impossible to justify a Durant PSA 10 for $300 a this time next year without a title. That simple.
agreed, I had no idea Durant prices were this high until I checked this thread. Yeah he's a great player, but this is his age 28 season, and like you pointed out, still no rings. Only an MVP to hang his hat on. That's not enough to justify the prices these were bringing pre-injury. Makes LeBron look like a bargain in comparison, and heck even younger guys like Kawhi/Giannis, who still have a chance to make a bigger impact than KD likely will.
NeedChapmans
03-04-2017, 02:28 PM
You guys don't think lebron will keep going up? I think they still have room to go up up up, space jam 2, potentially another championship, nike lifetime deal, and the media will always keep talking about lebron
he will just adjust his game as he declines and might even might more 3s later on in his career and become a really good and consistent 3pt shooter.
I do think he keeps going up but prices are so high that I'd be fool not to cash out now. I've held for too long on some players and simply refuse to turn down a medium six figure profit ... lesson learned the hard way a few times.
The entire reason I started buying only LeBron chrome was because Curry mania had just hit full throttle, and LeBron was being left behind from a value perspective. Shear luck he won a title last year but even if he hadn't, look at what he's accomplished in his career vs any other current player; it's not close ... and yet in January of last year, Curry was outselling him. It was ridiculous.
And Durant prices today, even on raw, terrible centered chrome. Also ridiculous. Unless he takes over the NBA immediately, there are simply better buys out there, and a knee injury cripples that ability.
imbluestreak23
03-04-2017, 05:17 PM
LeBron won his first title at age 27.
The age argument against Durant doesn't hold much weight.
adavis3232
03-04-2017, 05:21 PM
LeBron won his first title at age 27.
The age argument against Durant doesn't hold much weight.
This is a good point. If Golden State stays together they will be in the title conversation for several more years as well. I think there is plenty of room for growth in Durant prices.
NeedChapmans
03-04-2017, 05:40 PM
This is a good point. If Golden State stays together they will be in the title conversation for several more years as well. I think there is plenty of room for growth in Durant prices.
If Kevin Durant wins MVP three straight years after this one, and makes five straight NBA finals (winning at least two of them) he'll have accomplished what LeBron has accomplished as of May of 2016. And none of that matters because as of writing this, his chrome RC value is higher than LeBron's was after 4 MVP's, 2 Titles and 5 straight finals appearances (now 6).
Durant chrome values are incredibly inflated. Sure, they can rise, but it will take nothing short of the greatest stretch of play in NBA history to do so.
ninjacookies
03-04-2017, 06:27 PM
I'm saying that with a large supply, once cards stop rising and immediately begin to fall, it's nearly impossible to make them stop because the demand was already so saturated on the way up, there isn't any on the way down. It will take a feat of epic proportions to wake up the supply side of Durant chrome RC's.
Otherwise, it becomes hard to justify his prices. Keep in mind that in January of 2016, LeBron Chrome RC's graded PSA 10 were selling for $300. He already had six NBA finals, 2 rings, a lot of MVP's and on track to be a top five player of all time. Durant is selling for $360 right now and what does he have to show for it? One finals appearance, one MVP and now a real chance to miss out on his first title.
It will be impossible to justify a Durant PSA 10 for $300 a this time next year without a title. That simple.
Take it from this guy, he knows.
I've been silently watching Durant chrome prices from afar, and I have to say...things were reaching unjustifiable levels. Like stated, they were already eclipsing LJ chrome prices from earlier in the season, and he is the most decorated basketball player in the game. Durant has scoring titles and an MVP...same things Karl Malone hoarded during his career.
The thing that hurts most with injuries is seller fear turns into a flooded market which in turn further drops prices as sellers are in a rush to undercut each other and get out. And the buyer pool becomes smaller due to the aforementioned fear and increased risk assessment.
They'll eventually normalize, but I don't think we're there yet, as I feel they were grossly overvalued to begin with.
It will truly take a championship run for them to rebound. And even then, if Durant prices soar back up to near-Lebron levels, then I fear the world may have officially lost its mind.
daeve
03-04-2017, 06:28 PM
LeBron won his first title at age 27.
The age argument against Durant doesn't hold much weight.
The NBA has never seen a physical freak like LeBron. There's only been 2 seasons where he played less than 75 games, and this is his 14th season. This is KD's 10th season and he's about to be under 75 GP for the 4th time. You can bet on KD aging as gracefully as LeBron if you want, but that's not a bet I'd make.
NeedChapmans
03-04-2017, 07:03 PM
Think of the Durant market this way.
A week ago, BGS 9.5 chrome RC's peaked at around $320.00 delivered (a handful sold at this level just a few days before his knee injury). Up until this point, hundreds of Durant chrome RC's sold this year, on eBay and otherwise all on an upward trend to get to the new high mark of $320.00.
Durant and GSW were playing great, there was hype, and there was a large enough demand pool so that people that wanted Durant chrome RC's could get them, and those that could not continued to buy all the way through the peak sale of $320.00. Now what happens? Well, the demand pool drops considerably to start. Everyone that was a buyer of Durant and/or owns Durant chrome autos are likely in sell/hold mode and only the true Durant collectors/fans are in buy mode. Casual buyers and investors move elsewhere.
The pool of sellers though? As Ninja said above, there are a lot of people that own Durant between $200 and $320 that may not want to lose a ton of money, so some of them decide to cut their losses and sell at $250 (the current value). Then a group of more sell at $240. Then the guys that bought Durant four years ago decide to lock in profits and sell at $210 ... and before you know it, the season is over, it's baseball time, and the last group of Probstein auctions have Durant Gem 9.5's going for $175.
A healthy card market needs two things to succeed consistently. An active, rising star, and a star that people want to collect. If Durant does not win a title this year, his star is not rising anymore. And collectors will look to the next young group of possibilities to dominate the NBA because the chances Durant becomes a truly elite, one a kind player that justifies a $500 chrome RC is somewhere between 0 and less than 0.
toxicboy27
03-04-2017, 07:11 PM
I do think he keeps going up but prices are so high that I'd be fool not to cash out now. I've held for too long on some players and simply refuse to turn down a medium six figure profit ... lesson learned the hard way a few times.
The entire reason I started buying only LeBron chrome was because Curry mania had just hit full throttle, and LeBron was being left behind from a value perspective. Shear luck he won a title last year but even if he hadn't, look at what he's accomplished in his career vs any other current player; it's not close ... and yet in January of last year, Curry was outselling him. It was ridiculous.
And Durant prices today, even on raw, terrible centered chrome. Also ridiculous. Unless he takes over the NBA immediately, there are simply better buys out there, and a knee injury cripples that ability.
Stats are important but are not the end all be all. Likewise, championships don't necessarily equal a guarantee rise in prices if the demand simply isn't enough to soak up the supply and chase the price higher. Cleveland is not a big market team and does not appeal to the global fan base nearly as much as Golden State does. People keep quoting Lebron's achievements as basis for his prices going up but realistically that's a age-old market selling tactic. The markets are future looking and based on supply and demand. Smart money is selling Lebron and buying future risers.
It was a freak accident what happened to KD's knee but fortunately he dodged a bullet and will be back without any permanent set-backs. The same thing (or worse) could happen to any other player at any moment. Lebron doesn't likely have five good years left ahead of him but KD and the Warriors do.
Kards
03-04-2017, 07:12 PM
Think of the Durant market this way.
A week ago, BGS 9.5 chrome RC's peaked at around $320.00 delivered (a handful sold at this level just a few days before his knee injury). Up until this point, hundreds of Durant chrome RC's sold this year, on eBay and otherwise all on an upward trend to get to the new high mark of $320.00.
Durant and GSW were playing great, there was hype, and there was a large enough demand pool so that people that wanted Durant chrome RC's could get them, and those that could not continued to buy all the way through the peak sale of $320.00. Now what happens? Well, the demand pool drops considerably to start. Everyone that was a buyer of Durant and/or owns Durant chrome autos are likely in sell/hold mode and only the true Durant collectors/fans are in buy mode. Casual buyers and investors move elsewhere.
The pool of sellers though? As Ninja said above, there are a lot of people that own Durant between $200 and $320 that may not want to lose a ton of money, so some of them decide to cut their losses and sell at $250 (the current value). Then a group of more sell at $240. Then the guys that bought Durant four years ago decide to lock in profits and sell at $210 ... and before you know it, the season is over, it's baseball time, and the last group of Probstein auctions have Durant Gem 9.5's going for $175.
A healthy card market needs two things to succeed consistently. An active, rising star, and a star that people want to collect. If Durant does not win a title this year, his star is not rising anymore. And collectors will look to the next young group of possibilities to dominate the NBA because the chances Durant becomes a truly elite, one a kind player that justifies a $500 chrome RC is somewhere between 0 and less than 0.
When people are crying- I'm buying! When people are yelling, I'm selling.
The moral- it's probably a great time to buy especially if Durant comes back and plays well this year. This could be a blessing in disguise for a short term play...
toxicboy27
03-04-2017, 07:21 PM
Think of the Durant market this way.
A week ago, BGS 9.5 chrome RC's peaked at around $320.00 delivered (a handful sold at this level just a few days before his knee injury). Up until this point, hundreds of Durant chrome RC's sold this year, on eBay and otherwise all on an upward trend to get to the new high mark of $320.00.
Durant and GSW were playing great, there was hype, and there was a large enough demand pool so that people that wanted Durant chrome RC's could get them, and those that could not continued to buy all the way through the peak sale of $320.00. Now what happens? Well, the demand pool drops considerably to start. Everyone that was a buyer of Durant and/or owns Durant chrome autos are likely in sell/hold mode and only the true Durant collectors/fans are in buy mode. Casual buyers and investors move elsewhere.
The pool of sellers though? As Ninja said above, there are a lot of people that own Durant between $200 and $320 that may not want to lose a ton of money, so some of them decide to cut their losses and sell at $250 (the current value). Then a group of more sell at $240. Then the guys that bought Durant four years ago decide to lock in profits and sell at $210 ... and before you know it, the season is over, it's baseball time, and the last group of Probstein auctions have Durant Gem 9.5's going for $175.
A healthy card market needs two things to succeed consistently. An active, rising star, and a star that people want to collect. If Durant does not win a title this year, his star is not rising anymore. And collectors will look to the next young group of possibilities to dominate the NBA because the chances Durant becomes a truly elite, one a kind player that justifies a $500 chrome RC is somewhere between 0 and less than 0.
So is between 0 and less than 0, just 0?
Your opinion is as valid as anyone else's but I'd say that the sports card market is a lot less active than you portray it to be. Partly because of the high transaction costs (shipping and commissions), I would speculate that people hold on to their cards if things don't work out rather than just sell them at a loss. Either way, there's no easy way to prove this.
If KD comes back in time for the first round of the playoffs and the Warriors begin to dominate again would you say his star would be rising again? Because if not, I'm willing to bet that plenty of people will be wanting to buy his cards again then even before winning a championship. If they win and the team holds it core until next season, I'd bet prices would rise much higher than the current levels you state are already outrageous and unsustainable. Right now the market for his cards is definitely spooked but I'd venture to say smart money is buying if a deal is to be had now.
adavis3232
03-04-2017, 07:23 PM
Think of the Durant market this way.
A week ago, BGS 9.5 chrome RC's peaked at around $320.00 delivered (a handful sold at this level just a few days before his knee injury). Up until this point, hundreds of Durant chrome RC's sold this year, on eBay and otherwise all on an upward trend to get to the new high mark of $320.00.
Durant and GSW were playing great, there was hype, and there was a large enough demand pool so that people that wanted Durant chrome RC's could get them, and those that could not continued to buy all the way through the peak sale of $320.00. Now what happens? Well, the demand pool drops considerably to start. Everyone that was a buyer of Durant and/or owns Durant chrome autos are likely in sell/hold mode and only the true Durant collectors/fans are in buy mode. Casual buyers and investors move elsewhere.
The pool of sellers though? As Ninja said above, there are a lot of people that own Durant between $200 and $320 that may not want to lose a ton of money, so some of them decide to cut their losses and sell at $250 (the current value). Then a group of more sell at $240. Then the guys that bought Durant four years ago decide to lock in profits and sell at $210 ... and before you know it, the season is over, it's baseball time, and the last group of Probstein auctions have Durant Gem 9.5's going for $175.
A healthy card market needs two things to succeed consistently. An active, rising star, and a star that people want to collect. If Durant does not win a title this year, his star is not rising anymore. And collectors will look to the next young group of possibilities to dominate the NBA because the chances Durant becomes a truly elite, one a kind player that justifies a $500 chrome RC is somewhere between 0 and less than 0.
I have seen NeedChapmans make enough $$ on cardboard throughout the years to understand that this man knows what he is talking about. I do however disagree with this assessment on KD. Is LeBron better and have more accomplishments and accolades than KD? Of course he does and that is not in question here. The thing that KD does have in his corner in this situation is the same fan base that not very long ago took Curry prices to a higher level than LeBron. Sometimes hype takes precedent over performance and I strongly believe if KD comes back for the playoffs and the Warriors win the title his cards will spike again. This would be partly based on the accomplishment of winning a title and partly based on the hype of a possible Warriors dynasty. I'm not trying to say anyone in this thread is right or wrong because honestly we are all making projections or giving opinions and this is simply mine so take it for what it's worth. Thanks, Andy
NeedChapmans
03-04-2017, 08:03 PM
I have seen NeedChapmans make enough $$ on cardboard throughout the years to understand that this man knows what he is talking about. I do however disagree with this assessment on KD. Is LeBron better and have more accomplishments and accolades than KD? Of course he does and that is not in question here. The thing that KD does have in his corner in this situation is the same fan base that not very long ago took Curry prices to a higher level than LeBron. Sometimes hype takes precedent over performance and I strongly believe if KD comes back for the playoffs and the Warriors win the title his cards will spike again. This would be partly based on the accomplishment of winning a title and partly based on the hype of a possible Warriors dynasty. I'm not trying to say anyone in this thread is right or wrong because honestly we are all making projections or giving opinions and this is simply mine so take it for what it's worth. Thanks, Andy
I certainly don't disagree w/ you that hype can be a monster. But hype is not sustainable for a 15 year NBA career. It comes fast, and goes even faster, and the hype for Kevin Durant is now ... gone. It may very well return but again, can only do so if Durant returns healthy and Golden State wins an NBA title. And then from that point on, Durant will continue to have to be healthy, a scoring machine, and continue to win NBA titles.
Whether that happens or not, I do not know. What I do know is that there is no way in hell I touch a Kevin Durant RC at current prices. Too much future, not enough present or past baked into current value.
ninjacookies
03-04-2017, 08:14 PM
I have seen NeedChapmans make enough $$ on cardboard throughout the years to understand that this man knows what he is talking about. I do however disagree with this assessment on KD. Is LeBron better and have more accomplishments and accolades than KD? Of course he does and that is not in question here. The thing that KD does have in his corner in this situation is the same fan base that not very long ago took Curry prices to a higher level than LeBron. Sometimes hype takes precedent over performance and I strongly believe if KD comes back for the playoffs and the Warriors win the title his cards will spike again. This would be partly based on the accomplishment of winning a title and partly based on the hype of a possible Warriors dynasty. I'm not trying to say anyone in this thread is right or wrong because honestly we are all making projections or giving opinions and this is simply mine so take it for what it's worth. Thanks, Andy
Last year for Curry was a historical capturing lightning in a bottle scenario, though.
Sure, they are the same fanbase, but Curry was the league MVP, had one of the best shooting years in league history, and the Warriors were en route to taking down the Bulls reign as the greatest regular season team.
This year, the only thing KD has going for him that Steph didn't is that...he simply joined them.
I don't doubt the hobby can be irrational, but there were definitely a fair amount of non GS fans that were helping to inflate prices by getting in with hopes of flipping and riding the ascending wave. It inevitably shakes some of the leaves from the tree and devaluates consumer confidence.
Same with any stock that has a recent negative press..that's just how markets work.
Prices will definitely pick back up IF they can win the championship, but returning to their previous levels is anything but guaranteed. And right now the possibility of that championship occurring is far from the shoe-in the media made it out to be before the season started.
imbluestreak23
03-04-2017, 08:21 PM
When people are crying- I'm buying! When people are yelling, I'm selling.
The moral- it's probably a great time to buy especially if Durant comes back and plays well this year. This could be a blessing in disguise for a short term play...
This is the truth.
All of the arguments against Kevin Durant in this thread could have been made at any point in time in the past 5 years. He's getting old. LeBron is beating him in accolades (albeit playing in the Easy East), etc. Yet...all it really took was getting him on a team that is leading the league in wins...where KD is the shining star on that team to push prices up over $300 for 9.5s and $400 for PSA 10s.
There is a very easy argument to make that once KD does in fact come back healthy, win his ring against LeBron in the finals, that ALL of that wonderful attention Bron has been getting will indeed shift over to the 4-5 year dynasty wave that KD is just about to start riding.
I hope NC is correct. I'd love to buy more Durant if and when these seller's start undercutting to get out of their "investments."
Ultimately, this comes down to hedging your bet against whether KD will be healthy or not. If KD is healthy, this is a no brainer investment as GSWs are the favorite to win the championship. If KD is not healthy, or this adversely affects his play such that the GSW do not advance, then yes, prices will fall.
thor_rider08
03-04-2017, 08:22 PM
I agree with chap and ninja.. and I also agree with davis..
What I am glad did not happen is I sold when I found out his prices skyrocketed(2 weeks ago) and got hit with a ton of item not as described cases 0_o aka buyers remorse.
I have about 40 kd bgs 9.5/psa 10s I paid on average 80 for. I will probably sell some now and hold a few.
Ever since he did get hurt I have had an amazing amount of inquiries asking to buy so I feel the market is still stable but agree take the money and run because you never know when it will fall out within reason. I am in these so cheap I couldn't care if they went to 150 again but I don't think they will..
At the same time the new rc class blows and panini keeps pumping out non rc autos.. so what do people buy?
I'm torn but the logical side of me says dump and buy some more LeBron/Jordan patch autos/autos.
pejc300
03-05-2017, 12:03 AM
I agree with chap and ninja.. and I also agree with davis..
What I am glad did not happen is I sold when I found out his prices skyrocketed(2 weeks ago) and got hit with a ton of item not as described cases 0_o aka buyers remorse.
I have about 40 kd bgs 9.5/psa 10s I paid on average 80 for. I will probably sell some now and hold a few.
Ever since he did get hurt I have had an amazing amount of inquiries asking to buy so I feel the market is still stable but agree take the money and run because you never know when it will fall out within reason. I am in these so cheap I couldn't care if they went to 150 again but I don't think they will..
At the same time the new rc class blows and panini keeps pumping out non rc autos.. so what do people buy?
I'm torn but the logical side of me says dump and buy some more LeBron/Jordan patch autos/autos.
Did people hit you with not-as-described on graded cards? If so, you can fight those and win.
Archangel1775
03-05-2017, 02:59 AM
Cleveland is not a big market team and does not appeal to the global fan base nearly as much as Golden State does.
As a Warriors fan for almost 30 years, I call Bullsh*t. Steph Curry and LeBron James makes the team global. I'd argue that LBJ is more world renowned than Curry at this point. Never mind the teams.
crazymj
03-05-2017, 04:26 AM
Did people hit you with not-as-described on graded cards? If so, you can fight those and win.
U be surprised. Sold a Lebron exquisite 9.5 auto patch for $2600 and got an item not described cause buyer said card was loose inside the case... there was no problem with it and even got an email from Beckett saving there is no problem with it and still lost.
crazymj
03-05-2017, 04:32 AM
And this happens every year, the hot player base rookie rises to stupid range and people think it will keep up. Stephen curry topps rc last year over $300... now at $100 which I think is still ridiculous consider how many copies there are out there and how common they are. Just like Durant topps chrome. There's so many copies out there. The refractor is /1499 and I can see that holding good value in the long run if Durant can actually win a championship but right now him without a ring and getting older and accumulating injuries I just don't see it being a smart decision to hold or buy them.
I feel like there's definitely some group or bidders out there that just bids these up or make fake transaction to make people think that they're worth more than they are so that they can make easy flips.
Archangel1775
03-07-2017, 12:11 PM
And this happens every year, the hot player base rookie rises to stupid range and people think it will keep up. Stephen curry topps rc last year over $300... now at $100 which I think is still ridiculous consider how many copies there are out there and how common they are. Just like Durant topps chrome. There's so many copies out there. The refractor is /1499 and I can see that holding good value in the long run if Durant can actually win a championship but right now him without a ring and getting older and accumulating injuries I just don't see it being a smart decision to hold or buy them.
I feel like there's definitely some group or bidders out there that just bids these up or make fake transaction to make people think that they're worth more than they are so that they can make easy flips.
I call it the "Curry Effect". What people fail to realize was that the 2009 Topps Chrome Curry is limited to /999 and the refractor to /500. Everything fell into place for that card to shoot up in value. Immediate stardom, team success, out of this world shooting, NBA Championship, MVP...it was all there and we'll probably never see it again. It then went to the LeBron James Topps Chrome, then Russell Westbrook and finally Kevin Durant. The issue with all of those is the base were never limited. People are treating them as such. It's fools gold.
Recent sales:
PSA 10: $185, $160
BGS 9.5: $105, $110, $108
NeedChapmans
03-07-2017, 12:35 PM
I call it the "Curry Effect". What people fail to realize was that the 2009 Topps Chrome Curry is limited to /999 and the refractor to /500. Everything fell into place for that card to shoot up in value. Immediate stardom, team success, out of this world shooting, NBA Championship, MVP...it was all there and we'll probably never see it again. It then went to the LeBron James Topps Chrome, then Russell Westbrook and finally Kevin Durant. The issue with all of those is the base were never limited. People are treating them as such. It's fools gold.
Recent sales:
PSA 10: $185, $160
BGS 9.5: $105, $110, $108
What sales are you showing here? They're not Durant or Curry so I don't understand.
titletowncards
03-07-2017, 12:46 PM
Sold my Durant Refractor PSA 9 and spent a couple hundred more to get this, I think that was a win.
pejc300
03-07-2017, 12:56 PM
What sales are you showing here? They're not Durant or Curry so I don't understand.
I am also confused...
toxicboy27
03-07-2017, 01:08 PM
As a Warriors fan for almost 30 years, I call Bullsh*t. Steph Curry and LeBron James makes the team global. I'd argue that LBJ is more world renowned than Curry at this point. Never mind the teams.
You can call bs all day long and live in your own version of reality as well and nobody can stop you. We all do in our own ways anyhow!
Archangel1775
03-07-2017, 02:51 PM
You can call bs all day long and live in your own version of reality as well and nobody can stop you. We all do in our own ways anyhow!
LMK when you see a kid splash a 3 pointer and say "Golden State" or drive the lane, score and say "Cleveland".....better yet, lmk when NIke or Under Armour release "Clevelands" or " Golden State" shoe lines.
Archangel1775
03-07-2017, 02:52 PM
Recent sales:
PSA 10: $185, $160
BGS 9.5: $105, $110, $108
What sales are you showing here? They're not Durant or Curry so I don't understand.
eBay recent sales for KD, it could be the eBay mobile site though. Sometimes it doesn't do the time correctly.
Archangel1775
03-07-2017, 02:56 PM
Sold my Durant Refractor PSA 9 and spent a couple hundred more to get this, I think that was a win.
Wow, nice trade out. The 1996 Topps chrome was limited to just retail. I remember having a box in my hand for $29.99 and getting a couple action figures instead.
NeedChapmans
03-07-2017, 03:25 PM
eBay recent sales for KD, it could be the eBay mobile site though. Sometimes it doesn't do the time correctly.
Ahh, blame the site. Got it.
mr10pin
03-07-2017, 03:52 PM
Wow, nice trade out. The 1996 Topps chrome was limited to just retail. I remember having a box in my hand for $29.99 and getting a couple action figures instead.
How did you have a box for $29.99? Weren't they 20ct boxes at $2.99 per pack? I'm pretty sure they sold for over retail at release, too.
Archangel1775
03-07-2017, 05:35 PM
How did you have a box for $29.99? Weren't they 20ct boxes at $2.99 per pack? I'm pretty sure they sold for over retail at release, too.
It was a full box at the Wal-Mart in Lodi,CA. Trust me, you don't forget stuff like that. Don't quote me on the price but it was a lot less than $1200 today.
:)
Archangel1775
03-07-2017, 05:44 PM
Ahh, blame the site. Got it.
lol, like I said before. Mobile site issues. I hit "ending soonest" when I applied "sold items" to my search. Looks like it's the other way around. User error. Either way, they will come down.
Dec 7,2016 $108
Dec 11,2016 $182.50
pejc300
03-14-2017, 11:49 PM
I love how all of the sudden the Warriors are going to "struggle" without KD. Right.
So. Um. Yeah.
I was wrong.
mrchipz
03-15-2017, 01:05 AM
So. Um. Yeah.
I was wrong.
nothing wrong with that at all bro we all are at times, at least you owned it up, respect.
Archangel1775
03-17-2017, 01:35 AM
They are who we thought they were. Klay has redefined his role.
Kenflin
03-17-2017, 04:33 AM
Stats are important but are not the end all be all. Likewise, championships don't necessarily equal a guarantee rise in prices if the demand simply isn't enough to soak up the supply and chase the price higher. Cleveland is not a big market team and does not appeal to the global fan base nearly as much as Golden State does. People keep quoting Lebron's achievements as basis for his prices going up but realistically that's a age-old market selling tactic. The markets are future looking and based on supply and demand. Smart money is selling Lebron and buying future risers.
It was a freak accident what happened to KD's knee but fortunately he dodged a bullet and will be back without any permanent set-backs. The same thing (or worse) could happen to any other player at any moment. Lebron doesn't likely have five good years left ahead of him but KD and the Warriors do.
I currently live in that global market that you speak of and have NEVER met anyone who thinks like this. People in the global market usually haven't even heard of golden state. They've heard of San Francisco, but they currently play in Oakland, lol. I've even visited your location of Vancouver. If you're an all time great player, market never really matters with collectors. LeBron's stuff is getting harder and harder to find at good prices. His sells have steadily risen over the course of his career. You can ignore that fact, but it doesn't make it less true.
Durantula
04-02-2017, 04:04 AM
Last ungraded copy sold for $911. Prices not really down.
KD will be back before the Playoffs:)!
Kenflin
04-02-2017, 04:42 AM
Last ungraded copy sold for $911. Prices not really down.
KD will be back before the Playoffs:)!
I couldn't find it. Do you have a link to it?
Durantula
04-02-2017, 06:03 AM
I couldn't find it. Do you have a link to it?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/252828295985
NeedChapmans
04-02-2017, 06:21 AM
Last ungraded copy sold for $911. Prices not really down.
KD will be back before the Playoffs:)!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/252828295985
If you like that one, you can get this one for a fraction of the price.
KEVIN DURANT 2007/08 TOPPS CHROME #131 RC ROOKIE REFRACTOR SP #0243/1499 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/KEVIN-DURANT-2007-08-TOPPS-CHROME-131-RC-ROOKIE-REFRACTOR-SP-0243-1499-/292069531874?hash=item4400b360e2:g:L7EAAOSwCU1Y2myA)
NeedChapmans
04-02-2017, 06:24 AM
And this one sold for $600 yesterday as well.
Kevin Durant GS Warriors 2007-08 Topps Chrome Refractor #131 Rookie RC /1499 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kevin-Durant-GS-Warriors-2007-08-Topps-Chrome-Refractor-131-Rookie-RC-1499-/132144482258?hash=item1ec46cc7d2:g:C8oAAOSwuxFY3seX)
titletowncards
04-02-2017, 08:55 AM
If you like that one, you can get this one for a fraction of the price.
KEVIN DURANT 2007/08 TOPPS CHROME #131 RC ROOKIE REFRACTOR SP #0243/1499 | eBay
Got a nice little bend in the top right corner.
minnesotachill
04-02-2017, 11:06 AM
Got a nice little bend in the top right corner.
I owned this one a few years ago. It's probably in BGS/PSA 8 condition. Has light scratches throughtout, at least one or more bad corners.
Durantula
04-08-2017, 03:44 AM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/182507349499
Is this the result of the exitement of Durants return!? Wow!!!
Archangel1775
04-08-2017, 08:11 PM
ROFL, yeahhhhh,cause the Warriors are having all types of problems without him.He'll be the hero to get them the #1 seed back and defeat the world!!!
exitmusicblue
04-08-2017, 09:38 PM
His prices have def spiked across the board after he left OKC. Raw BC RC refs these days auctioning for more than pre-Dubs BGS gems...
exitmusicblue
04-12-2017, 10:36 PM
KD is 7 of 10 with 20 points, 4-5 on threes with a min left in the 2nd quarter...
Edit: 9 of 12 for 24 points at the half. Lakers D is trying in spurts.
Durantula
04-24-2017, 10:21 PM
I finally decided to let mine go. I was a little frustrated with KD missing Game 2 and 3. Well, it didn't affect the outcome of the auction. I am very happy that it set a new high for ungraded sales $1.237. Pretty stunning!
I am wondering how far these cards can go as the Warriors move up in the Playoffs.
imbluestreak23
06-01-2017, 11:01 PM
These just doubled in price
hermanotarjeta
06-01-2017, 11:08 PM
These just doubled in price
During the offseason, people will be unloading their Bron chromes to buy Durants.
SelfDestruct808
06-01-2017, 11:15 PM
During the offseason, people will be unloading their Bron chromes to buy Durants.
Doubt they're gonna unload lebrons(unless to flip)after he wins the title:D
Kingofkings1281
06-01-2017, 11:19 PM
I'm still dumbfounded how his base Chrome seems to be more desirable than cards such as his Sp Authentic auto patch. It's probably his second best rookie behind Exquisite and one with a nice patch and in decent shape can't even pull $800.
Braswell10
06-01-2017, 11:30 PM
During the offseason, people will be unloading their Bron chromes to buy Durants.
Lol thats funny. Lebron chromes > Durant chromes all day, no matter what happens in this finals.
pejc300
06-01-2017, 11:45 PM
Lol thats funny. Lebron chromes > Durant chromes all day, no matter what happens in this finals.
Probably, but pretty remarkable that Durant PSA 10 just sold for nearly $600 and Bron at about $1,000 so the gap is closing quick. Another performance like tonight and it will even be closer.
the27guy
06-02-2017, 12:08 AM
I'm still dumbfounded how his base Chrome seems to be more desirable than cards such as his Sp Authentic auto patch. It's probably his second best rookie behind Exquisite and one with a nice patch and in decent shape can't even pull $800.
Continue to be dumbfounded. Continue to use your brain. It shall serve you well....
broncomanning18
06-04-2017, 09:44 PM
Durants stat line was pretty insane tonight. 33 pts, 13 reb. 6 ast, 3 stls and 5 blk
exitmusicblue
06-04-2017, 10:02 PM
Only the beginning
Many years of this to come...
jstephens24
06-05-2017, 09:07 AM
I was so close to going for the win on a KD chrome 9.5 during game 1. the first one ended around 220 then near the end another one ended near 250. I was going after the 250 one and didn't put a serious enough bid on it. now im too late
pejc300
06-05-2017, 10:25 AM
This is one of those cards now where you keep thinking "there's no way it goes any higher" then it does. The ceiling will hit, but how high? I remember thinking Lebron Chromes PSA 10 at $300 was high, then $400, then $500, then at $600 I thought it was done for sure, but nope - all the way to 1k. I don't think Durant will reach that status, but with Lebron Chrome 9.5's at $600 - $800 and Durant's at $300 right now it's tempting not to buy a few.
Drdduet
06-05-2017, 10:31 AM
This is one of those cards now where you keep thinking "there's no way it goes any higher" then it does. The ceiling will hit, but how high? I remember thinking Lebron Chromes PSA 10 at $300 was high, then $400, then $500, then at $600 I thought it was done for sure, but nope - all the way to 1k. I don't think Durant will reach that status, but with Lebron Chrome 9.5's at $600 - $800 and Durant's at $300 right now it's tempting not to buy a few.
if the dubs win this series and KD gets MVP, PSA 10's will be at 4 figures in my estimation...at least for a little while.
COMCMax
06-05-2017, 01:03 PM
Someone left some money on the table with that BIN. Anyone here the lucky buyer?
2007-08-KEVIN-DURANT-TOPPS-CHROME-REFRACTOR-RC-1499 (http://bit.ly/2rtE0CG)
Ginger Ale
06-05-2017, 01:24 PM
I got lucky last summer, before KD left and picked up a KD Rookie 1499 BGS 9.5 (x4) for $500.
They had a White refractor with an 8.5 Centering for 800-900. Something about 8.5 centerings for me, so tough to buy em.
pejc300
06-05-2017, 01:38 PM
Someone left some money on the table with that BIN. Anyone here the lucky buyer?
2007-08-KEVIN-DURANT-TOPPS-CHROME-REFRACTOR-RC-1499 (http://bit.ly/2rtE0CG)
Saw that; no way it gets mailed. Seller is obviously a card guy and has a regular version BGS 9 for sale for $220 so I think it was a mistaken listing.
ThoseBackPages
06-05-2017, 02:35 PM
HOLY BALLZ!!!
psa NINES are over $200!
deemsterz33
06-05-2017, 03:40 PM
Anybody have an idea on KD base print run vs. LBJ base print run?
duron
06-05-2017, 05:05 PM
Oh god here we go...
Lol.
imbluestreak23
06-05-2017, 05:10 PM
I was so close to going for the win on a KD chrome 9.5 during game 1. the first one ended around 220 then near the end another one ended near 250. I was going after the 250 one and didn't put a serious enough bid on it. now im too late
My damn PWCC auction ended a couple weeks ago for like $213 (BGS).
I'm not about that life. Just sent my other 2 BGSs to PSA to crossover.
ThoseBackPages
06-05-2017, 05:11 PM
Anybody have an idea on KD base print run vs. LBJ base print run?
many more
ninjacookies
06-05-2017, 05:16 PM
Expect a Genesis of SNAD return requests never before seen if there's a repeat of last year.
the27guy
06-05-2017, 05:21 PM
Sees the names of many of the people in this thread....
Remembers the Curry Topps hype from last year....
Feels sorry for the people who are going to fall hook line and sinker.
The end.
ThoseBackPages
06-05-2017, 05:50 PM
Sees the names of many of the people in this thread....
Remembers the Curry Topps hype from last year....
Feels sorry for the people who are going to fall hook line and sinker.
The end.
difficult to compare the two RCs. one being /999 the other unnumbered
Wings
06-05-2017, 05:53 PM
I sold my Durant Topps Chrome /1499 in late January. I had it listed on eBay for like $399.99 OBO and someone messaged me aggressively looking to make an off eBay deal. They started flying off eBay with every BIN being hit pretty much regardless of price that month. I saw the fix coming, I shouldn't have sold it...
It died down for awhile and looks like its trending the same way again now.
mindcycle
06-05-2017, 08:14 PM
Glad I got both my Lebron and Durant TC ref rcs before these crazy hype prices. I've been collecting TC rcs for years now but have had to slow down recently due to the uptick in prices. I actually almost nabbed a Curry ref the summer before he hit hobby hypeville when they were going for $200 or so but got outbid several times. Now I'll probably never own that one, oh well.. I also passed on a ton of Dirk refs when they were going for $60.. doh
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deemsterz33
06-05-2017, 08:21 PM
if the dubs win this series and KD gets MVP, PSA 10's will be at 4 figures in my estimation...at least for a little while.
No they won't. Prices at this point now have the title and a possible MVP factored in. I'd be surprised if they hit $650 before next year.
SelfDestruct808
06-05-2017, 09:18 PM
Man I guess someone's unloading their Lebron chromes.
Lot(10) 2003 Topps Chrome Basketball LeBron James ROOKIE RC #111 (PWCC) | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/352079707734?redirect=mobile)
They must want to buy more KD chromes
imbluestreak23
06-05-2017, 09:41 PM
Sees the names of many of the people in this thread....
Remembers the Curry Topps hype from last year....
Feels sorry for the people who are going to fall hook line and sinker.
The end.
LOL!!
deemsterz33
06-05-2017, 09:46 PM
Sees the names of many of the people in this thread....
Remembers the Curry Topps hype from last year....
Feels sorry for the people who are going to fall hook line and sinker.
The end.
No doubt the Currys were a bit pricey. However, if they had won and were chasing a dynasty, the prices would still be up there.
As it is, you're looking at $600-700 for a PSA 10 Curry Topps.......
pejc300
06-05-2017, 10:07 PM
PWCC just listed some bombshell Durant cards...ending shortly after the Warriors win it all. Gonna see some HUGE numbers. That fake patch on that Exquisite #91/99 - LOL!!
duron
06-05-2017, 10:13 PM
No doubt the Currys were a bit pricey. However, if they had won and were chasing a dynasty, the prices would still be up there.
Loooooooooooooool.
You da bess mayne.
7I_FHQWRuj8
deemsterz33
06-05-2017, 10:40 PM
Loooooooooooooool.
You da bess mayne.
7I_FHQWRuj8
It's funny, people still hold on to that one $600 sale like it was the going rate. Fact of the matter was PSA 9s were selling for $300-400 during the peak last year. If they had won the title, they would probably still be pushing $300+ at this point. Either way, still pretty cool that a base PSA 10 can go for $650. Great sign for the hobby.
ninjacookies
06-05-2017, 11:28 PM
Buy.
He's going to win 7 championships in the next 7 years and become better than Jordan, Lebron, and Wilt combined.
Guaranteed.
/donwest
exitmusicblue
06-06-2017, 12:35 AM
https://media.giphy.com/media/xUPGck7rzlAftbFZza/giphy.gif
"Don't listen to that mofo about GMA, aight? PSA or BGS bruh PSA or BGS for your beautiful refractors"
COMCMax
06-06-2017, 12:15 PM
Where do you think centered raws will settle if they win championship? $200 for a week or so? Highest raw yet.
Kevin Durant 07-08 Topps Chrome Rookie Card (http://bit.ly/2rxEJCN)
pejc300
06-06-2017, 12:16 PM
Where do you think centered raws will settle if they win championship? $200 for a week or so? Highest raw yet.
Kevin Durant 07-08 Topps Chrome Rookie Card (http://bit.ly/2rxEJCN)
There have been several raw cards go for over $200 in the past few weeks. $140 is not close to the high. It all depends on condition. Centering is tough and black borders are tough, so if the card looks "mint" people are paying $200 raw.
exitmusicblue
06-06-2017, 12:21 PM
Just glad I got my KD super before his GSW move...
the27guy
06-06-2017, 12:25 PM
One thing is for sure.... if you have them.... list them. In the next 7 days.
exitmusicblue
06-06-2017, 12:33 PM
As KD PCer, I'm keeping mine -- this is only the beginning.
If I'm a flipper who needs short-term profits, would doubtless list.
COMCMax
06-06-2017, 12:37 PM
There have been several raw cards go for over $200 in the past few weeks. $140 is not close to the high. It all depends on condition. Centering is tough and black borders are tough, so if the card looks "mint" people are paying $200 raw.
I believe ya. Got any examples? I own a few. Just interested.
pejc300
06-06-2017, 03:37 PM
They are already tanking; PSA 10 just sold for $494.
ThoseBackPages
06-06-2017, 03:57 PM
SELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MJGOAT23
06-06-2017, 04:04 PM
Buy.
He's going to win 7 championships in the next 7 years and become better than Jordan, Lebron, and Wilt combined.
Guaranteed.
/donwest
Don't.Miss.Out.
gomiamigo
06-06-2017, 04:40 PM
Not 3, not 4 not 5. Not 6, Not 7....
gomiamigo
06-06-2017, 04:51 PM
PWCC just listed some bombshell Durant cards...ending shortly after the Warriors win it all. Gonna see some HUGE numbers. That fake patch on that Exquisite #91/99 - LOL!!
Didn't see many bombshells, at least none that I don't already have...this post got me all excited.
OTOH, my Durant PC is pretty sweet. :cool:
deemsterz33
06-06-2017, 04:56 PM
They are already tanking; PSA 10 just sold for $494.
Another went for just over $500 as well. Both had pretty borderline centering - I wouldn't have bid on either personally.
cp3fan
06-06-2017, 05:00 PM
Didn't see many bombshells, at least none that I don't already have...this post got me all excited.
OTOH, my Durant PC is pretty sweet. :cool:
If that patch on the Durant exquisite was legit, it would definitely be a bombshell. Not a whole lot of legit 3 colors for that card.
CubKings
06-06-2017, 06:54 PM
Man, if I didn't love collecting Topps Chrome RCs so much, or that KD was/ is a favorite, I would want to sell mine. I just don't want to buy again later. And plus, if he wins multiple, who's to say it will go back down. It would probably go into the Kobe and LeBron status and stay.
COMCMax
06-07-2017, 02:20 PM
There have been several raw cards go for over $200 in the past few weeks. $140 is not close to the high. It all depends on condition. Centering is tough and black borders are tough, so if the card looks "mint" people are paying $200 raw.
Highest one to date I've seen. Keep moving up (centered ones especially)
KEVIN DURANT 2007-08 TOPPS CHROME ROOKIE WARRIORS RC #131 (http://bit.ly/2rC98Qq)
COMCMax
06-08-2017, 09:42 AM
Good lord. Where does it stop.
KEVIN DURANT 2007 TOPPS CHROME REFRACTOR PARALLEL ROOKIE #131 SERIAL/1499 PSA 10 (http://bit.ly/2rEZJYg)
COMCMax
06-08-2017, 04:13 PM
One thing is for sure.... if you have them.... list them. In the next 7 days.
I would throw up a BIN's right now. The flood is coming.
pejc300
06-08-2017, 04:19 PM
I would throw up a BIN's right now. The flood is coming.
You seem very invested in these. How many do you own?
COMCMax
06-08-2017, 04:25 PM
You seem very invested in these. How many do you own?
Alot.
crazymj
06-08-2017, 04:33 PM
So I guess selling 10 of them earlier in the season for $30 each was not a great idea :(
COMCMax
06-08-2017, 06:01 PM
So I guess selling 10 of them earlier in the season for $30 each was not a great idea :(
They were $30 when the season started? ouch..
pingbling23
06-08-2017, 06:23 PM
Got a chrome base and refractor on eBay now. Both started at .99 with no reserve. Let's see where these babies end up.
the27guy
06-08-2017, 06:24 PM
Alot.
more than 10?
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