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teosdesserts
02-28-2017, 07:45 PM
"Hyperextended knee", won't return. I hate the Warriors, but hopefully it isn't serious.

NeedChapmans
02-28-2017, 07:52 PM
It was an innocent play, if Durant had any bend in the knee when Zaza rolled into him he'll be 100% A-OK.

You never know though. Crazy that a season changing event can happen like this.

ninjacookies
02-28-2017, 07:54 PM
For a guy that's built like a Norwegian swimsuit model, Durant's managed to be very robust during the course of his career.

pingbling23
02-28-2017, 07:57 PM
Hope he's ok.

KD35Russ0
02-28-2017, 08:00 PM
Oh how the turntables

jcardstore
02-28-2017, 08:10 PM
I didn't see it, does anyone have a video? Hopefully it's not serious

Edit: I saw it and it doesn't look that bad. He'll be out a few games and just fine, definitely didn't look as serious as everyone is making it seem

Rip67vdub
02-28-2017, 08:28 PM
Doesn't look too serious. Hoping for a speedy recovery.

IronMonkey415
02-28-2017, 08:29 PM
He was trying to do too much at his home town.

bewareof94
02-28-2017, 08:36 PM
Wonder if any Durant Chrome buyers are getting nervous about their recent purchases

shaner1
02-28-2017, 08:54 PM
Hyperextension is the second most common mechanism for an ACL tear. Hopefully that is not the case here, but that would be the worst scenario of course

hofcollector2
02-28-2017, 09:08 PM
This won't affect them in the regular season but for the playoff it will have profound impact.

Jpayne7787
02-28-2017, 09:58 PM
Wonder if any Durant Chrome buyers are getting nervous about their recent purchases

I was thinking the same thing lol

pingbling23
02-28-2017, 09:59 PM
I was thinking the same thing lol

They have 180 days to ponder the decision, they are sleeping fine.

alias21
02-28-2017, 10:05 PM
He was trying to do too much at his home town.

Never sure when you're joking ha ha. But he was literally standing still when he got hurt.

spurs50fan
02-28-2017, 10:28 PM
I don't know how a 73 win team will survive while he's out lol

Hope it's not too serious

tjforce
02-28-2017, 11:29 PM
I don't know how a 73 win team will survive while he's out lol

Hope it's not too serious

They stopped being a 73 win team as soon as they flushed their depth for Durant.

I said it then and I'll say it now, for 2016-17 they would have been better off without Durant, keeping the team intact.

Now long term, once Draynond, Klay and Curry really get paid, it might be a different story.

alias21
02-28-2017, 11:38 PM
They stopped being a 73 win team as soon as they flushed their depth for Durant.

I said it then and I'll say it now, for 2016-17 they would have been better off without Durant, keeping the team intact.

Now long term, once Draynond, Klay and Curry really get paid, it might be a different story.

And I'll say it again...not sure if I ever said it on this board but. They had durant sign up with an idea of what long term cap will look like. You can make your salary in endorsements if you're on a championship winning club. If you're getting paid 15 mill a year are your going to cry cause you're not getting 17? When under armor/ gatorade/ whoever are offering you 10 mill a year cause of where you are? Time will tell but if GS wins chips they aren't hurting for money salary or not

rookies
03-01-2017, 12:39 AM
Dont leave westbrook the way you did. Karma I just hope thudner advance further then GS!

tjforce
03-01-2017, 02:10 AM
This is concerning: Warriors to add Matt Barnes, not Jose Calderon, after Durant's injury (http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/02/28/report-warriors-to-add-matt-barnes-not-jose-calderon-in-wake-of-kevin-durant-injury/)

Maybe just precautionary, but we'll see.

mrchipz
03-01-2017, 04:33 AM
Latest tweet less then an hour ago from Woj.

Adrian Wojnarowski‏Verified account @WojVerticalNBA 1h1 hour ago

Sources: Warriors, Kevin Durant's inner-circle bracing for tough news on KD's knee, awaiting MRI result. Fear is he's out months, not weeks.


think this is alot worse then we thought.

im not a KD fan at all but man i wish they guy a speedy recovery. i hate injuries to players.

sucks for the nba and the fans.

Ottomatic
03-01-2017, 05:12 AM
If h's really hurt there are no locks to come out of the East or West IMO. So many different finals matches possible... So I'm sure we will be blessed with Spurs Cavs.

jlzinck
03-01-2017, 06:32 AM
For a guy that's built like a Norwegian swimsuit model, Durant's managed to be very robust during the course of his career.

Best reply in the thread

avjp87
03-01-2017, 07:40 AM
Out 2-3 months

asujbl
03-01-2017, 08:12 AM
Windhorst is on Mike and Mike comparing this injury to an injury to Bynum back in the day that kept him out like 12 weeks... I don't recall that specific injury (he said Kobe rolled up on him), and Windhorst isn't my favorite, but he's definitely emphasizing the fact that the Warriors already got rid of Calderon to get Barnes

asujbl
03-01-2017, 08:18 AM
Update on the Bynum thing (just for clarity)

He got hurt January 31st, same basic injury, and he came back on April 9th... and the Lakers won the Title that year.

So Windhorst was a bit aggressive when he said 12. That's closer to 9-10 weeks.

jcardstore
03-01-2017, 08:21 AM
Update on the Bynum thing (just for clarity)

He got hurt January 31st, same basic injury, and he came back on April 9th... and the Lakers won the Title that year.

So Windhorst was a bit aggressive when he said 12. That's closer to 9-10 weeks.

So he's going to be back for the finals.

jcardstore
03-01-2017, 08:36 AM
I heard (probably unreliable source, on twitter) that it's a PCL sprain. The severity? Who knows.

Here's the MRI in question. Take it with a billion grains of salt because it could be totally false

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C51e0GeVAAASzKj.jpg

AlabamaSlamma
03-01-2017, 08:49 AM
I heard (probably unreliable source, on twitter) that it's a PCL sprain. The severity? Who knows.

Here's the MRI in question. Take it with a billion grains of salt because it could be totally false

Man, if someone is leaking MRIs, we could have another JPP lawsuite on our hands.

jcardstore
03-01-2017, 09:06 AM
Man, if someone is leaking MRIs, we could have another JPP lawsuite on our hands.

Yea, that's why I said take it with a grain of salt. It's not a generic MRI that's on google images and I can't really explain it. Was tweeted out by a diagnostic radiologist who worked for the MLB 2014-16.

Could it be a fake account? Probably, but still intriguing, none the less

exoticprince
03-01-2017, 09:51 AM
Curry may need to look for that superman cape fairly quickly

IronMonkey415
03-01-2017, 10:06 AM
They bringing in Matt Barnes.

jcardstore
03-01-2017, 10:06 AM
Sprained MCL and bone bruise. That's good news for the Warriors. He'll probably be back for the playoffs. Isn't that was Curry had last year?

the27guy
03-01-2017, 10:11 AM
It's crazy how quickly things can change. Today's diagnosis effects so much.

Even in the card world.

Does it give Houston and SA a real chance to win the west? How about the rest of the west? How much better are clevelands chances all of a sudden?

How about curry stuff? Is he forced into 2015-16 curry mode?

Realistically, harden, kawhi, lebron, and curry stuff could all be effected by today's announcement.

bigcwd2000
03-01-2017, 10:11 AM
I am glad to hear it isn't anything more serious than what it is. I hate to see players injured and enjoy the games better when teams are at full strength.

jcardstore
03-01-2017, 10:14 AM
It's crazy how quickly things can change. Today's diagnosis effects so much.

Even in the card world.

Does it give Houston and SA a real chance to win the west? How about the rest of the west? How much better are clevelands chances all of a sudden?

How about curry stuff? Is he forced into 2015-16 curry mode?

Realistically, harden, kawhi, lebron, and curry stuff could all be effected by today's announcement.

1) Doesn't really change much in the long run. He should be ready by the playoffs or 2nd round.

2) Probably not, nobody could beat GS last year without Durant so not much should change there, I'm confident they still reach the finals without him. Doesn't really make Cleveland's chances any better because he'd be back for the finals anyways.

3) Curry stuff will probably see a small boost but I don't see it being much.

Stats
03-01-2017, 10:15 AM
I can't stand Zaza, he even manages to hurt his own players.... That being said, hoping for a speedy recovery for Durant. This playoffs would be epic if all teams are at full strength

NeedChapmans
03-01-2017, 10:15 AM
Sprained MCL and bone bruise. That's good news for the Warriors. He'll probably be back for the playoffs. Isn't that was Curry had last year?

I am glad to hear it isn't anything more serious than what it is. I hate to see players injured and enjoy the games better when teams are at full strength.

That doesn't mean it isn't serious. An MCL sprain often means a tear so it's very likely Durant's MCL is torn. The degree of the tear is what matters here, the fact that he's taking a full month off and will be re-evaluated suggests there's some in between opinions on how to proceed. The tear might be small enough to heal on its own, or might need surgery ... so they're going to play the wait and see game.

jcardstore
03-01-2017, 10:17 AM
That doesn't mean it isn't serious. An MCL sprain often means a tear so it's very likely Durant's MCL is torn. The degree of the tear is what matters here, the fact that he's taking a full month off and will be re-evaluated suggests there's some in between opinions on how to proceed. The tear might be small enough to heal on its own, or might need surgery ... so they're going to play the wait and see game.

Grade 2 they said. That's 9-10 weeks just like asujbl said. That puts him back in the 1st or 2nd round.

He'll almost definitely be back for the finals

the27guy
03-01-2017, 10:20 AM
1) Doesn't really change much in the long run. He should be ready by the playoffs or 2nd round.

2) Probably not, nobody could beat GS last year without Durant so not much should change there, I'm confident they still reach the finals without him. Doesn't really make Cleveland's chances any better because he'd be back for the finals anyways.

3) Curry stuff will probably see a small boost but I don't see it being much.


I wrote my post before I had seen announcement. I agree w you.

NeedChapmans
03-01-2017, 10:21 AM
Grade 2 they said. That's 9-10 weeks just like asujbl said. That puts him back in the 1st or 2nd round.

He'll almost definitely be back for the finals

Absolutely not, no. Grade two means a good partial tear. There are absolutely no guarantees that Durant's MCL will heal completely without surgery. And if the MCL is not completely healed before he steps on the court again, the risk level shoots through the roof for increased injury to the MCL and other ligaments to compensate.

This certainly isn't as bad as a full ACL tear, but it is very bad news for Durant and GSW. And you haven't even taken into account the mental aspect of an injury like this ... Grade 2 absolutely sucks. Total bummer for the league and fans that like to see good basketball.

jcardstore
03-01-2017, 10:33 AM
Absolutely not, no. Grade two means a good partial tear. There are absolutely no guarantees that Durant's MCL will heal completely without surgery. And if the MCL is not completely healed before he steps on the court again, the risk level shoots through the roof for increased injury to the MCL and other ligaments to compensate.

This certainly isn't as bad as a full ACL tear, but it is very bad news for Durant and GSW. And you haven't even taken into account the mental aspect of an injury like this ... Grade 2 absolutely sucks. Total bummer for the league and fans that like to see good basketball.

Maybe, I'm not an orthopedic surgeon but from what I've read a Grade 2 isn't necessarily a tear.

That being said I would be very surprised if he isn't playing in the finals

NeedChapmans
03-01-2017, 10:41 AM
Maybe, I'm not an orthopedic surgeon but from what I've read a Grade 2 isn't necessarily a tear.

That being said I would be very surprised if he isn't playing in the finals

Nearly every sprain is a tear of some kind. When you twist your ankle, walk it off, and then it's sore to step on for a week or two after the fact, you've torn a ligament. It's a very slight tear, but a tear and in order for it to heal, you need a small amount of rest. Most sprained ankles are grade 1 sprains, but they are mostly still all torn.

Grade 2 is another monster. It means you've put a pretty good rip into your ligament and it's unknown whether or not the ligament can heal on it's own. There's hope it will, but if the injury is serious enough to be labeled grade 2, there's serious doubt. In 4 weeks, everyone is going to get together and figure out the next step. Either more rest because it is healing nicely, or season ending surgery because progress is not being made as hoped.

100% of Grade 2 sprains are torn ligaments. Last year, Steph Curry had a grade 1 MCL sprain against the Rockets ... this much more servere.

Jpayne7787
03-01-2017, 10:41 AM
If this leads to the Thunder bouncing the Dubs in the first round... that would really be something

shaner1
03-01-2017, 10:42 AM
Any ligament sprain is a tear. Grade 1 -2 -3, with 3 being the most severe. Clinically, it's graded based on the resulting laxity in the ligament -- how much the knee "opens up" on stressing the ligament. For an MCL tear, its called a Valgus stress test on physical examination. MCL tears typically do not require surgery. However, 6-8 weeks of healing time may be required for an athlete competing at this level in this sport.

mfw13
03-01-2017, 11:14 AM
I can't stand Zaza, he even manages to hurt his own players....

Did you actually see the play? The Wizards player practically threw Zaza into Durant while battling for a rebound and was called for a foul on the play.

Zaza is completely blameless....

kdailey4315
03-01-2017, 11:17 AM
They stopped being a 73 win team as soon as they flushed their depth for Durant.

I said it then and I'll say it now, for 2016-17 they would have been better off without Durant, keeping the team intact.

Now long term, once Draynond, Klay and Curry really get paid, it might be a different story.

They couldn't have kept everyone anyway. Barnes is getting 5M less than KD. They still would have had to let Barbosa and Bogut go.

Stats
03-01-2017, 11:24 AM
Did you actually see the play? The Wizards player practically threw Zaza into Durant while battling for a rebound and was called for a foul on the play.

Zaza is completely blameless....

Yeah, my fault, Gortat did throw him back when trying to block him out.

I was blinded by my Zaza disdain that has been festering since the Hawks days.

Orangejello727
03-01-2017, 11:35 AM
If this leads to the Thunder bouncing the Dubs in the first round... that would really be something

Lets hope the Cavs get bounced somewhere in round 1 and 2 as well. That way there are 2 fresh teams playing for the championship and we can reset all the talk on the forums once again. Lets pick Raptors and Rockets

phdbeckett
03-01-2017, 11:45 AM
If the playoffs started now, the Warriors face the Jazz in the second round if the top seeds both win. The Jazz are the anti-Warriors in the west, and can beat them with the same style of slow play the Cavs used to stop them in the Finals.

the27guy
03-01-2017, 11:48 AM
If the playoffs started now, the Warriors face the Jazz in the second round if the top seeds both win. The Jazz are the anti-Warriors in the west, and can beat them with the same style of slow play the Cavs used to stop them in the Finals.

I'd say two things about this....

1. Durant is the piece that the Jazz can't deal with.... if there's any one guy on that team that I (as a Jazz fan) don't want to face, it's Durant. He absolutely owns us.

2. I don't think we're beating the Clippers in the first round. When their main 4 guys are healthy, they're really good - and if Durant's not right by then AND THE CLIPS ARE, then that second round matchup could be AMAZING.

the27guy
03-01-2017, 11:49 AM
Lets hope the Cavs get bounced somewhere in round 1 and 2 as well. That way there are 2 fresh teams playing for the championship and we can reset all the talk on the forums once again. Lets pick Raptors and Rockets

I would love a Raptors vs Rockets finals!

I would love a Utah vs Boston finals more.

KD35Russ0
03-01-2017, 11:50 AM
Absolutely not, no. Grade two means a good partial tear. There are absolutely no guarantees that Durant's MCL will heal completely without surgery. And if the MCL is not completely healed before he steps on the court again, the risk level shoots through the roof for increased injury to the MCL and other ligaments to compensate.

This certainly isn't as bad as a full ACL tear, but it is very bad news for Durant and GSW. And you haven't even taken into account the mental aspect of an injury like this ... Grade 2 absolutely sucks. Total bummer for the league and fans that like to see good basketball.

Compensating for it is the key. Let us not forget that Mr. Durant has a bad foot and an injury that tends to be recurring in players who have experienced it.

duron
03-01-2017, 12:20 PM
I can't stand Zaza, he even manages to hurt his own players

Spooks, is that you?

jusdukky
03-01-2017, 12:29 PM
I didn't see it, does anyone have a video? Hopefully it's not serious

Edit: I saw it and it doesn't look that bad. He'll be out a few games and just fine, definitely didn't look as serious as everyone is making it seem

Spot on with this diagnosis Dr. Cardstore!:p

teosdesserts
03-01-2017, 12:33 PM
I would love a Raptors vs Rockets finals!

I would love a Utah vs Boston finals more.


Over/Under 40 Rebounds for Gobert per game? The Celtic's inability to rebound is infuriating.

the27guy
03-01-2017, 12:35 PM
I just watched the video for the first time....

I had the EXACT same thing happen to me. teammate fall back, push into my knees, and hyperextended it. My reaction was the same as KD's. The exact same thing. Same diagnosis.

I'm about 5 years older than Durant, and my doctors are... umm... maybe not quite as good as his, and my body is probably not quite as prepared for wear and tear as his.... so take the following with a grain of salt.

The injury was painful, and i had a tough time getting around for about a week. I didn't run for about 3 weeks. I didn't feel comfortable playing basketball for 6 weeks, and I didn't feel 100% for probably 12-14 weeks. I was hesitant. The biggest thing is, your knee has had a trauma, and it's scared to have that feeling again.

the27guy
03-01-2017, 12:36 PM
Over/Under 40 Rebounds for Gobert per game? The Celtic's inability to rebound is infuriating.

Boston goes 5 out and has OWNED us this year. But in the playoffs, where adjustments are made, I like the Jazz chances... and yes, Rudy would certainly have some BIG games.

Jpayne7787
03-01-2017, 12:48 PM
Lets hope the Cavs get bounced somewhere in round 1 and 2 as well. That way there are 2 fresh teams playing for the championship and we can reset all the talk on the forums once again. Lets pick Raptors and Rockets

Being a Rockets fan I'd have no problem with this

Siberian13
03-01-2017, 02:10 PM
So still Cavs vs Warriors? probably

Rip67vdub
03-29-2017, 02:46 PM
Latest update on KD's injury (http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/kevin-durant-injury-update-warriors-record-schedule/dhub4qthkunb1x3lk72pchiad)

Durantula
03-30-2017, 01:12 AM
Durant will be back in Time for the playoffs but hopefully will play the last 3 home games to get back in shape

Rip67vdub
04-04-2017, 12:01 PM
Warriors reportedly targeting Saturday as Kevin Durant’s return date (http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/04/03/warriors-reportedly-targeting-saturday-as-kevin-durants-return-date/)

exoticprince
04-04-2017, 01:37 PM
As much as I don't want the warriors to win I'm very happy to see him coming back.