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TheFrenzy
03-22-2017, 01:29 PM
When the rubber meets the road (cardboard meets the greasy palm?) what will you do with any Joe Mixon cards you come across?

I've read scouting reports calling him the most talented RB in the draft behind Fournette and on par with Zeke and David Johnson. Someone is going to draft this guy in the Top 50.

CapnKerouac
03-22-2017, 01:57 PM
In a similar situation, I kept pulling rare Hector Olivera baseball cards. I sold em and gave the money to a local dv shelter.

RogerGodahell
03-22-2017, 02:00 PM
Is he the guy who punched the girl out at McDonalds?

ucLAkers
03-22-2017, 02:03 PM
In a similar situation, I kept pulling rare Hector Olivera baseball cards. I sold em and gave the money to a local dv shelter.

What did he do?

ILOVEBEER
03-22-2017, 02:07 PM
If he can make collectors money, he will be forgiven.

RogerGodahell
03-22-2017, 02:26 PM
What did he do?

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/Achilleswrath1/166gp37.jpg (http://s1229.photobucket.com/user/Achilleswrath1/media/166gp37.jpg.html)


shjopTfHFlw

asujbl
03-22-2017, 02:32 PM
Nothing out of the ordinary...

Vick, AP, Jose Fernandez, Ray Rice... a thousand more in various situations

Did people just throw it in the garbage? Of course not

Reality is what it is. If you can sell? You sell.

Cavaliercards
03-22-2017, 02:33 PM
Will sell them, will not PC him at all until the girl gets a chance to knock him around a few times.

ucLAkers
03-22-2017, 03:03 PM
http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/Achilleswrath1/166gp37.jpg (http://s1229.photobucket.com/user/Achilleswrath1/media/166gp37.jpg.html)


shjopTfHFlw

Asking about Hector Olivera not Joe.

thenwhatjk
03-22-2017, 03:04 PM
No biggie, not like he did a peaceful protest or anything

SanAntonioSpurs
03-22-2017, 03:20 PM
The NFL needs to start setting the bar higher and stop letting idiots in. Talented or not, the guys a loser.

seabass97166
03-22-2017, 03:33 PM
The guy at the booth sitting with her did nothing...what a chump

RogerGodahell
03-22-2017, 03:39 PM
The guy at the booth sitting with her did nothing...what a chump

Wearing a UFC hat too...:doh:

Brobocop
03-22-2017, 03:47 PM
I remember plenty of people blaming her for the attack. So odd our society, just so so odd.

Morgoth
03-22-2017, 04:15 PM
If someone had shot Mixon right after this punch would they be facing charges as well?

patchgenie
03-22-2017, 05:59 PM
i'm not going to buy any. he'll probably end up on the patriots.

Viking6
03-22-2017, 06:18 PM
95% of people will not care. Look at Tyreke Hill and the craze that came with his Contenders cards etc.

I would bet a number of NFL teams have taken Mixon off their draft boards... but he will still get drafted in the 1st/2nd round. Fans will not care when he starts producing.

Scottish Punk
03-23-2017, 10:30 AM
If someone had shot Mixon right after this punch would they be facing charges as well?

Probably, it depends on whether the shooter or the girl were in eminent danger. Mixon walked out pretty quick after punch, can't shoot somebody running away. But I am not a lawyer, and laws may be different state to state.

I agree with others, his transgressions will be forgotten and forgiven once he breaks off his first 25 yard run for TD. If he does well, he will even be praised as a redemption story. Kind of slap in the face for all the other good/great players that didn't do anything stupid.

mrveggieman
03-23-2017, 11:13 AM
I'm going to collect his rookie cards and autos just like I would like I would any other prospect. Hell I'm considering starting a PC of his. You know I find it really funny that everyone is raking this guy over the coals when per the tape the woman put her hands on him first not to mention she was never charged in this incident. I wonder why that is.....

cking
03-23-2017, 11:18 AM
I'm going to collect his rookie cards and autos just like I would like I would any other prospect. Hell I'm considering starting a PC of his. You know I find it really funny that everyone is raking this guy over the coals when per the tape the woman put her hands on him first not to mention she was never charged in this incident. I wonder why that is.....

subscribed and popcorn cooking:)!

moosefan87
03-23-2017, 11:24 AM
I'm going to collect his rookie cards and autos just like I would like I would any other prospect. Hell I'm considering starting a PC of his. You know I find it really funny that everyone is raking this guy over the coals when per the tape the woman put her hands on him first not to mention she was never charged in this incident. I wonder why that is.....

Ah there's the blame the victim post I was waiting for and not shocked either by the member posting it.

deansayso
03-23-2017, 11:27 AM
I'm going to collect his rookie cards and autos just like I would like I would any other prospect. Hell I'm considering starting a PC of his. You know I find it really funny that everyone is raking this guy over the coals when per the tape the woman put her hands on him first not to mention she was never charged in this incident. I wonder why that is.....

I'm all for standing your ground but she posed zero threat to him.

cking
03-23-2017, 11:27 AM
over/under on how long this thread lasts?

mrveggieman
03-23-2017, 11:28 AM
http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/Achilleswrath1/166gp37.jpg (http://s1229.photobucket.com/user/Achilleswrath1/media/166gp37.jpg.html)


shjopTfHFlw

Oh you mean the woman with multiple drug arrests who was the aggressor in this incident?

mrveggieman
03-23-2017, 11:29 AM
Ah there's the blame the victim post I was waiting for and not shocked either by the member posting it.


Last time I checked if someone spits on and slaps you then you are the victim.

mrveggieman
03-23-2017, 11:30 AM
I'm all for standing your ground but she posed zero threat to him.

Doesn't matter. None of this would have happened if she would have kept her hands to herself.

TWard
03-23-2017, 11:35 AM
Oh dear god, here we go..

Okay yeah, the woman pushed him first but that does not give him, or any other man, the right to punch a woman in the face. That's absurd and ridiculous. I was slapped by my ex-girlfriend and instead of jacking her in the face, I walked away. That's what he should've done. You don't punch a woman in the face. That's wrong.

mrveggieman
03-23-2017, 11:37 AM
Oh dear god, here we go..

Okay yeah, the woman pushed him first but that does not give him, or any other man, the right to punch a woman in the face. That's absurd and ridiculous. I was slapped by my ex-girlfriend and instead of jacking her in the face, I walked away. That's what he should've done. You don't punch a woman in the face. That's wrong.

If she would have done that to a police officer or a soldier would you feel the same way?

Whodatiz
03-23-2017, 11:39 AM
Just. Stop. Please.


If she would have done that to a police officer or a soldier would you feel the same way?

TWard
03-23-2017, 11:45 AM
If she would have done that to a police officer or a soldier would you feel the same way?


Yes. It doesn't matter if you're a police officer, soldier, doctor, firefighter, cook, taxi driver, athlete, manure scooper, dentist, reporter, electrician, physical therapist, writer, mailman, waiter, trashman, or even work at the McDonalds drive-thru, you don't punch a woman in the face. Period. Regardless of occupation, it doesn't matter. You never lay a hand on a woman. It's wrong.

If she pushes, shoves, or slaps you, or even throws something at you, walk your ass away.

Scottish Punk
03-23-2017, 11:49 AM
If she would have done that to a police officer or a soldier would you feel the same way?

Pretty sure a police officer or a soldier would:
A: Be smart enough to show restraint
B: Subdue the situation without needing to punch her in the face.

Good strawman though!!

Brobocop
03-23-2017, 11:50 AM
I'm going to collect his rookie cards and autos just like I would like I would any other prospect. Hell I'm considering starting a PC of his. You know I find it really funny that everyone is raking this guy over the coals when per the tape the woman put her hands on him first not to mention she was never charged in this incident. I wonder why that is.....

First off, I'm going to assume the "I wonder why that is....." as an attempt to bait people into a discussion that goes beyond the incident itself. Second, a guy like Joe Mixon is not your average person. The guy is in peak physical shape and is probably stronger than 99.999% of the people in this country. I believe that when you are that kind of person, built that kind of way, you need to carry yourself differently in a physical altercation. This is one of those cases. That slap probably didn't even phase him and his reaction to her violence was much higher and violent. He acted like an idiot in this case. He should have walked away from this girl before she even hit him. He should not have gone into that place and confronted her. With everything on the line, he showed great immaturity and lacked the ability to think critically and walk away from a situation where there was not going to be a good outcome.

Long story short, blaming her for acting violent in the first place is ridiculous. As a much bigger and stronger person, Joe Mixon should have walked away from that situation. His ego would not let him do that and he really showed her, and the world, the kind of man he was at that point in his life. A crummy one. He could be a changed man now, and I hope he is. This will follow him forever though as it should.

mhcook
03-23-2017, 11:51 AM
I'm going to collect his rookie cards and autos just like I would like I would any other prospect. Hell I'm considering starting a PC of his. You know I find it really funny that everyone is raking this guy over the coals when per the tape the woman put her hands on him first not to mention she was never charged in this incident. I wonder why that is.....
While I'm not going to go as far in condoning his behavior, I appreciate your willingness to take own an unpopular opinion. My issue and problem with the attitude toward Mixon is that this was ONE mistake that he made at 18 years old. I don't see this as a mistake that should take away his opportunity to attempt to play in the NFL. This kid deserves the opportunity to learn and grow from his mistake.

mrveggieman
03-23-2017, 12:07 PM
Pretty sure a police officer or a soldier would:
A: Be smart enough to show restraint
B: Subdue the situation without needing to punch her in the face.

Good strawman though!!

The police officer also would have also locked her little fast @$$ up for assault and batter too which what should have happened in the first place.

mrveggieman
03-23-2017, 12:09 PM
Yes. It doesn't matter if you're a police officer, soldier, doctor, firefighter, cook, taxi driver, athlete, manure scooper, dentist, reporter, electrician, physical therapist, writer, mailman, waiter, trashman, or even work at the McDonalds drive-thru, you don't punch a woman in the face. Period. Regardless of occupation, it doesn't matter. You never lay a hand on a woman. It's wrong.

If she pushes, shoves, or slaps you, or even throws something at you, walk your ass away.

So basically women should be able to beat the hell out of a man any time she feels like it and not be held accountable for her actions? So of you really need to stop drinking the feminazi kool aid.

Drdduet
03-23-2017, 12:09 PM
Keeping it real.

No biggie, not like he did a peaceful protest or anything

moosefan87
03-23-2017, 12:11 PM
So basically women should be able to beat the hell out of a man any time she feels like it and not be held accountable for her actions? So of you really need to stop drinking the feminazi kool aid.

And you need to stop defending guys that punch women.

mrveggieman
03-23-2017, 12:15 PM
First off, I'm going to assume the "I wonder why that is....." as an attempt to bait people into a discussion that goes beyond the incident itself. Second, a guy like Joe Mixon is not your average person. The guy is in peak physical shape and is probably stronger than 99.999% of the people in this country. I believe that when you are that kind of person, built that kind of way, you need to carry yourself differently in a physical altercation. This is one of those cases. That slap probably didn't even phase him and his reaction to her violence was much higher and violent. He acted like an idiot in this case. He should have walked away from this girl before she even hit him. He should not have gone into that place and confronted her. With everything on the line, he showed great immaturity and lacked the ability to think critically and walk away from a situation where there was not going to be a good outcome.

Long story short, blaming her for acting violent in the first place is ridiculous. As a much bigger and stronger person, Joe Mixon should have walked away from that situation. His ego would not let him do that and he really showed her, and the world, the kind of man he was at that point in his life. A crummy one. He could be a changed man now, and I hope he is. This will follow him forever though as it should.

First of all she signaled him over to her so obviously the knew each other. (I personally believe that they had some type of sexual relationship but that's just my theory but that's neither here nor there). Secondly none of what you said matters. I don't care if Mixon was the heavyweight champion of the world this woman had no right to put her hands on him if he didn't hit her first. What part of that don't some of you people get?

Skootown
03-23-2017, 12:17 PM
Similar thread going on another board, same results.

Pretty sickening to see people openly defending this POS.

It's one thing when it's all hearsay, but what kind of man can watch that video and jump to defend Mixon?

A poor excuse for a man.

cking
03-23-2017, 12:21 PM
Yes. It doesn't matter if you're a police officer, soldier, doctor, firefighter, cook, taxi driver, athlete, manure scooper, dentist, reporter, electrician, physical therapist, writer, mailman, waiter, trashman, or even work at the McDonalds drive-thru

What if I am a beaded metaphor? Do I qualify to punch her in the mouth?

TWard
03-23-2017, 12:24 PM
Okay let's use this as an example:

Let's say you have a daughter, and she comes home one night with a black eye and you say:

"Honey, what happened?"
"Oh, well this guy said some nasty things to me and I shoved him. He then punched the crap out of me."
"So you shoved him first?"
"Yeah"
"Well honey, if you shoved him first, you deserve the black eye"

I'm guessing that wouldn't happen. I'm guessing you would be pretty upset and would want to find the guy that just beat the crap out of your daughter.

The girl that got punched is someone's daughter and I'm willing to bet that they're pretty upset about this whole situation as well. I'm 100% sure that her dad doesn't think she deserves the black eye, even if she was the "aggressor" in this situation.

mrveggieman
03-23-2017, 12:25 PM
While I'm not going to go as far in condoning his behavior, I appreciate your willingness to take own an unpopular opinion. My issue and problem with the attitude toward Mixon is that this was ONE mistake that he made at 18 years old. I don't see this as a mistake that should take away his opportunity to attempt to play in the NFL. This kid deserves the opportunity to learn and grow from his mistake.

Thank you.

mrveggieman
03-23-2017, 12:26 PM
And you need to stop defending guys that punch women.

I will when you stop defending women who assault men for no reason. :)!

Skootown
03-23-2017, 12:30 PM
I will when you stop defending women who assault men for no reason. :)!

Yeah, it's a good thing that jacked up athlete hit her or she would've beaten him senseless, huh.

This is where your incredibly stupid argument holds no water.

She was no threat to him. None. He could have easily restrained her or walked away.

Instead he decked her. And you're bending over backwards to defend him for it.

Stay classy.

mrveggieman
03-23-2017, 12:32 PM
Similar thread going on another board, same results.

Pretty sickening to see people openly defending this POS.

It's one thing when it's all hearsay, but what kind of man can watch that video and jump to defend Mixon?

A poor excuse for a man.

You must be talking about some other video because in the video that I watched the woman was clearly the aggressor and deserved everything that she got.

TheFrenzy
03-23-2017, 12:37 PM
As the dominant gender, we must hold ourselves to a higher standard than emotionally-driven women.

Christillman
03-23-2017, 12:37 PM
I am going to go out a limb and say this thread will no doubt end in multiple suspensions and end up being locked before the night ends. Popcorn ready

majestik101
03-23-2017, 12:40 PM
He's a great player, but at the end of the day, he hit a woman in plain sight in public, knocked her out and it was caught on camera.

SECOND DOWN AND NINE!

(Listeners of Dan Lebatard should get that reference)

Also thanks for making this poll public - I have more to add to my ignore list based on the votes/comments defending this POS

mrveggieman
03-23-2017, 12:48 PM
Yeah, it's a good thing that jacked up athlete hit her or she would've beaten him senseless, huh.

This is where your incredibly stupid argument holds no water.

She was no threat to him. None. He could have easily restrained her or walked away.

Instead he decked her. And you're bending over backwards to defend him for it.

Stay classy.

Yeah when some girl beats up your son in the school yard I hope yell tell him the exact same thing.

Brobocop
03-23-2017, 12:49 PM
First of all she signaled him over to her so obviously the knew each other. (I personally believe that they had some type of sexual relationship but that's just my theory but that's neither here nor there). Secondly none of what you said matters. I don't care if Mixon was the heavyweight champion of the world this woman had no right to put her hands on him if he didn't hit her first. What part of that don't some of you people get?

Then going by your beliefs, Adrian Peterson should have just told the cops that his kid hit him first. Greg Hardy should have just told the cops his girlfriend hit him first. Ray Rice should have told the commissioner that his fiance hit him first. Violence is not an answer to violence every time. I can't believe you honestly believe that the action he took was equal to the action she took.

Brobocop
03-23-2017, 12:54 PM
Yeah when some girl beats up your son in the school yard I hope yell tell him the exact same thing.

Beating up =/= one slap to the face. Also, in the video, she does give a shove to him to which he responds in a very threatening pose as if he was going to hit her. A case could be made that at that point, her slap was a defensive move in response to his aggressive act. Taken like that, he has now become the aggressor instead of the victim. Now, I know you're going to say "But Brobo, she shoved him so therefore she instigated the violence and his sign of aggression was a defensive act." Well my good sir, I'd respond that if a light shove is assault then we should be locked up in jail then. So no, I still contend that his aggressive move towards her is what really escalated the situation.

ChaseYourCards
03-23-2017, 12:56 PM
Deserved it. Woman initiates contact, classic female privilege.

...just a joke, guys.

Just a joke.

TheFrenzy
03-23-2017, 01:03 PM
Where is IronMonkey to lighten the mood?

cking
03-23-2017, 01:08 PM
Violence is not an answer to violence every time.

You do not have to become a monster to defeat a monster

-Bono

TheFrenzy
03-23-2017, 01:09 PM
Just for kicks and giggles:

- Is it automatically wrong for a guy to hit Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner?
- Is it automatically ok to hit a female-to-male individual in self-defense?
- Is striking a certain gender morally wrong because of strength imbalance, some inherent characteristic of genitalia, or some social ideal pertaining to gender itself? (At its root it can only be one of these)
- What about a midget dude like Verne Troyer? Could he strike a woman in self-defense?
- What about a regular guy, but the girl is Rhonda Rousey?
- What about Verne Troyer vs Rhonda Rousey?

And before anyone flips, I'm asking these largely in jest. The Golden Rule is "Stop hitting people. All of you."

Scottish Punk
03-23-2017, 01:18 PM
Just for kicks and giggles:

- Is it automatically wrong for a guy to hit Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner?
- Is it automatically ok to hit a female-to-male individual in self-defense?
- Is striking a certain gender morally wrong because of strength imbalance, some inherent characteristic of genitalia, or some social ideal pertaining to gender itself? (At its root it can only be one of these)
- What about a midget dude like Verne Troyer? Could he strike a woman in self-defense?
- What about a regular guy, but the girl is Rhonda Rousey?
- What about Verne Troyer vs Rhonda Rousey?

And before anyone flips, I'm asking these largely in jest. The Golden Rule is "Stop hitting people. All of you."

It all comes down to eminent danger. The bigger, stronger individual has the burden of holding more restraint. Even then, the bigger individual should at least attempt to restrain before opting to the "punch to the face". Unless that girl picked up a chair/weapon, Mixon was never in any eminent danger.

Edit: I know you know this already, but some people are probably going to jump on you anyways. ;)

deansayso
03-23-2017, 01:29 PM
She hit him first. He should have grabbed her arm and tried to restrain her.

Also, I think if he doesn't run off this might have ended differently.

mrveggieman
03-23-2017, 01:43 PM
What if I am a beaded metaphor? Do I qualify to punch her in the mouth?


If someone puts their hands on you, you are well within your right to react regardless of who you are and who the aggressor is.

mrveggieman
03-23-2017, 01:44 PM
Okay let's use this as an example:

Let's say you have a daughter, and she comes home one night with a black eye and you say:

"Honey, what happened?"
"Oh, well this guy said some nasty things to me and I shoved him. He then punched the crap out of me."
"So you shoved him first?"
"Yeah"
"Well honey, if you shoved him first, you deserve the black eye"

I'm guessing that wouldn't happen. I'm guessing you would be pretty upset and would want to find the guy that just beat the crap out of your daughter.

The girl that got punched is someone's daughter and I'm willing to bet that they're pretty upset about this whole situation as well. I'm 100% sure that her dad doesn't think she deserves the black eye, even if she was the "aggressor" in this situation.

I liked how you left out the part of your daughter spitting on and slapping the guy.

Scottish Punk
03-23-2017, 01:45 PM
If someone puts their hands on you, you are well within your right to react regardless of who you are and who the aggressor is.

react yes, punch in the face no.

mrveggieman
03-23-2017, 01:46 PM
Just for kicks and giggles:

- Is it automatically wrong for a guy to hit Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner?
- Is it automatically ok to hit a female-to-male individual in self-defense?
- Is striking a certain gender morally wrong because of strength imbalance, some inherent characteristic of genitalia, or some social ideal pertaining to gender itself? (At its root it can only be one of these)
- What about a midget dude like Verne Troyer? Could he strike a woman in self-defense?
- What about a regular guy, but the girl is Rhonda Rousey?
- What about Verne Troyer vs Rhonda Rousey?

And before anyone flips, I'm asking these largely in jest. The Golden Rule is "Stop hitting people. All of you."

Agreed. If you don't want to get knocked the hell out don't hit anyone first.

mrveggieman
03-23-2017, 01:47 PM
She hit him first. He should have grabbed her arm and tried to restrain her.

Also, I think if he doesn't run off this might have ended differently.

I don't think it would have ended any differently if he would have waited but that's just speculation at this point.

Skootown
03-23-2017, 02:05 PM
If someone puts their hands on you, you are well within your right to react regardless of who you are and who the aggressor is.

Luckily for the women of this country, the law says otherwise.

TheFrenzy
03-23-2017, 02:08 PM
It all comes down to eminent danger. The bigger, stronger individual has the burden of holding more restraint. Even then, the bigger individual should at least attempt to restrain before opting to the "punch to the face". Unless that girl picked up a chair/weapon, Mixon was never in any eminent danger.

Edit: I know you know this already, but some people are probably going to jump on you anyways. ;)

See, this is a very reasonable and defensible position.

It also means this guy (Halfthor Bjornsson "The Mountain") should never throw a punch unless the other guy in the bar has a weapon.
http://cdn-s3.si.com/s3fs-public/2014/06/30/screen_shot_2014-06-30_at_11.11.01_am.png

TWard
03-23-2017, 02:09 PM
I liked how you left out the part of your daughter spitting on and slapping the guy.


and I like how you defend someone who beats women. To each their own. If defending him is your prerogative, then go right ahead, but beating a woman is wrong. End of story. Hope you get your money's worth out of your Joe Mixon PC.

With that said, I'm gonna go ahead and exit this thread before it gets locked.

EDIT: You also never answered my question about that scenario. Interesting.

TheFrenzy
03-23-2017, 02:12 PM
Edit: I know you know this already, but some people are probably going to jump on you anyways. ;)

If people want to jump on me, I'll give them a wide open door:

IF Mixon walks the straight and narrow, shows true repentance, and maybe does some good work for domestic violence groups - I have no problem forgiving the guy for a horrible split-second decision he made as an 18-year old.

I would hope that BO members can recognize both my condemnation of his act and my willingness to forgive. (Also, I see no fault in members who would say "Nope, as far as being a fan, hitting her is unforgivable in my view.")

88horsepower
03-23-2017, 02:25 PM
PBM, Troll or both? You decide.

deansayso
03-23-2017, 03:00 PM
I don't think it would have ended any differently if he would have waited but that's just speculation at this point.

I think if he stuck around, apologized right away, and showed some sympathy it would have been a completely different outcome.

mrveggieman
03-23-2017, 03:36 PM
and I like how you defend someone who beats women. To each their own. If defending him is your prerogative, then go right ahead, but beating a woman is wrong. End of story. Hope you get your money's worth out of your Joe Mixon PC.

With that said, I'm gonna go ahead and exit this thread before it gets locked.

EDIT: You also never answered my question about that scenario. Interesting.

I'm not going to answer your loaded question either.

mrveggieman
03-23-2017, 03:37 PM
I think if he stuck around, apologized right away, and showed some sympathy it would have been a completely different outcome.


Why should he have to apologize for being assaulted? :rolleyes:

Brobocop
03-23-2017, 03:37 PM
100% sure that mrveggieman is an active member on r/MensRights.

VikingsAllDay
03-23-2017, 03:37 PM
if the vikings draft him I will collect his cards

Brobocop
03-23-2017, 03:38 PM
I'm not going to answer your loaded question either.

Loaded questions like this? "You know I find it really funny that everyone is raking this guy over the coals when per the tape the woman put her hands on him first not to mention she was never charged in this incident. I wonder why that is....."

TheFrenzy
03-23-2017, 03:45 PM
I really just wanted to know what people would do with his cards, but now I feel like:

http://i.imgur.com/ut01y9p.gif

mrveggieman
03-23-2017, 03:53 PM
Luckily for the women of this country, the law says otherwise.

I never knew the law said that women can assault men and not get punished for it until I saw this case.

mrveggieman
03-23-2017, 03:54 PM
100% sure that mrveggieman is an active member on r/MensRights.



I do support men's rights just like I'm pretty sure that a lot of you are feminist supporters.

Brobocop
03-23-2017, 04:03 PM
I do support men's rights just like I'm pretty sure that a lot of you are feminist supporters.

Eh, not really. I just think what's fair is fair. Revenge isn't justice. Joe Mixon at 6'1", 227 pounds, should not feel like he needs to use the force he did when slapped by someone who is probably 5'2", 125 pounds. 100 pounds is a lot of weight in terms of size difference, especially when it's probably all muscle. Should she of hit him, no, I don't necessarily agree that she should have. She did though, and Joe had a chance to exercise his own judgement, which was, hit her as hard as he could and run out of the establishment. His actions after hitting her are telling in that he knew then and there what he did was grossly wrong.

mhcook
03-23-2017, 04:09 PM
I really just wanted to know what people would do with his cards, but now I feel like:

http://i.imgur.com/ut01y9p.gif
If his talent is as good as many experts say, I would think he could be a good gamble. We all know if he plays extremely well that he will sell well.

deansayso
03-23-2017, 04:14 PM
Why should he have to apologize for being assaulted? :rolleyes:

Oh I don't know, maybe because he knocked her out?

Do you think if he did not hit her and instead pressed charges for assault against her he would win the case?

mrveggieman
03-23-2017, 04:22 PM
Oh I don't know, maybe because he knocked her out?

Do you think if he did not hit her and instead pressed charges for assault against her he would win the case?

Probably not because look how they all ignored the fact that she hit him in the first place. If he would have pressed charges they would have laughed him all the way out of the courthouse.

mrveggieman
03-23-2017, 04:22 PM
If his talent is as good as many experts say, I would think he could be a good gamble. We all know if he plays extremely well that he will sell well.

I'm praying that the Raiders draft him. :flex::flex:

mhcook
03-23-2017, 04:40 PM
I'm praying that the Raiders draft him. :flex::flex:
Are the Vegas Raiders still going to be the bad boys of the NFL? If so, then Mixon's incident fits that culture.

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mrveggieman
03-23-2017, 04:47 PM
Are the Vegas Raiders still going to be the bad boys of the NFL? If so, then Mixon's incident fits that culture.

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I'm a Raiders fan and we need a running back right now. Mixon is by no means a bad kid he just unfortunately got caught up with a trashy woman at the wrong place at the wrong time.

moosefan87
03-23-2017, 04:56 PM
I'm a Raiders fan and we need a running back right now. Mixon is by no means a bad kid he just unfortunately got caught up with a trashy woman at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Ya men who punch women aren't bad people. So if she's trash it's okay to punch them?

codymad
03-23-2017, 04:57 PM
Nobody even talks about what Tyreeke Hill did he is way worse than any of the other guys he beat up his pregnant girlfriend but since he runs fast no one really cares..

LCM1223
03-23-2017, 04:58 PM
If there was ever a reason not to go vegan...

mrveggieman
03-23-2017, 04:59 PM
Ya men who punch women aren't bad people. So if she's trash it's okay to punch them?



A woman who is has multiple drug arrests, gets drunk in bars and picks fights is trashy in most people's eyes. And yes if someone assaults you, you have every right to defend yourself.

mrveggieman
03-23-2017, 05:00 PM
Nobody even talks about what Tyreeke Hill did he is way worse than any of the other guys he beat up his pregnant girlfriend but since he runs fast no one really cares..

I'm sorry but what does he have to do with this story again???

mrveggieman
03-23-2017, 05:01 PM
If there was ever a reason not to go vegan...

Yeah because if you would be a hyprocryte if you are against violence against animals but support violence against innocent men.

JosieD
03-23-2017, 05:21 PM
I do support men's rights just like I'm pretty sure that a lot of you are feminist supporters.

It is possible to be a feminist and want men to have equal rights as well.

I refuse to watch the video.

RogerGodahell
03-23-2017, 05:22 PM
I have no idea what was said because i wasn't there and there is no audio. But just by watching the video it appears to me that he said something rude to her or the guy that was standing beside her. Maybe he called her or the person next to her a vulgar name. And then she pushed him for being a jackass and insulting her or that other person. And then he knocks her out. That's what im seeing. The guy is a complete jerk for what he did.

Monsterx
03-23-2017, 05:41 PM
So Mixon had to defend himself in this situation? Can't take a few hits?
Man, she does look pretty tough. Probably the correct decision. I mean, who knows what she might have done if he hadn't broken her face?

Edit to answer OP - I would trade/sell.

Cavaliercards
03-23-2017, 05:46 PM
This was posted on Rotoworld today



An anonymous NFL scout told Bleacher Report that he trusts Oklahoma RB Joe Mixon more than FSU RB Dalvin Cook.
"The pattern of bad decisions are alarming, really," the scout said of Cook. "With my job on the line, I trust [Joe] Mixon a lot more than Dalvin Cook." Though Cook has never been found guilty of a crime, he's been charged with misdemeanor battery (2015), cited for a violation of animal care (2014), charged with firing a weapon and possession of a weapon on school property (2010) and charged with robbery (2009). Cook has also been charged with criminal mischief after allegedly causing property damage with a BB gun. On top of all that, he has shoulder and hamstring issues, fumbling problems and tested horrifically at the NFL Combine. B/R's Matt Miller predicts he'll fall into the second round.

mrveggieman
03-23-2017, 05:56 PM
It is possible to be a feminist and want men to have equal rights as well.

I refuse to watch the video.

Feminist support gender equality as much as Aryan nation supports racial equality.

mrveggieman
03-23-2017, 05:58 PM
I have no idea what was said because i wasn't there and there is no audio. But just by watching the video it appears to me that he said something rude to her or the guy that was standing beside her. Maybe he called her or the person next to her a vulgar name. And then she pushed him for being a jackass and insulting her or that other person. And then he knocks her out. That's what im seeing. The guy is a complete jerk for what he did.

So let me get this straight. If someone calls you a name you have the right to assault them?

Brobocop
03-23-2017, 06:24 PM
So let me get this straight. If someone calls you a name you have the right to assault them?

“The gay dude … he called me something,” Mixon said in the video. “He was like (slur). So then I was like, you got me messed up. And then I called him a (slur). And after that, the girl, she dropped her purse, that's when she came in my face, pushed me, and then my glasses came off, and then, like, I had, like, jumped at her, like, to watch out. And then she came in my face. I put my head down. And she swung on me."

This guy and his friends all sound like pillars of society.

“So when she went inside, she was talking about how we were trying to jump her. So that’s when the dude (Molitor’s friend) went inside, and I followed the dude. That’s when I interrupted her and I was talking to Sooner Dave (Smith), talking about how nobody was trying to jump her, we had no problem with her, she was just being disrespectful, you know … smoking in my face and acting crazy.”

On the video, Mixon turns to walk away but appears to say something to Molitor’s friend. Then Molitor pushes Mixon, he lunges at her, she slaps and he punches.

This is a man who plays running back in division I college football:

“I mean, even though she pushed me, I didn't think she was going to hit me,” Mixon said, repeating what he said earlier in the interview. “I was so shocked, because she hit me so hard, it felt like really like a dude hit me. And then, like, my face just started ringing. And after that, like, it was just like a reaction.”

Sooners' Joe Mixon: 'It felt like a dude hit me' | News OK (http://newsok.com/article/5531466)

IronMonkey415
03-23-2017, 06:28 PM
I'll sacrifice him to Lucifer.

by the way I'm Satanic now.

RogerGodahell
03-23-2017, 06:41 PM
So let me get this straight. If someone calls you a name you have the right to assault them?

Nope, didn't say that. I said it looks like she shoved him away because he made a derogatory comment to either her or her male friend. If a girl pushes you away you don't knock her out.

Monsterx
03-23-2017, 06:50 PM
“I mean, even though she pushed me, I didn't think she was going to hit me,” Mixon said, repeating what he said earlier in the interview. “I was so shocked, because she hit me so hard, it felt like really like a dude hit me. And then, like, my face just started ringing. And after that, like, it was just like a reaction.”

Sooners' Joe Mixon: 'It felt like a dude hit me' | News OK (http://newsok.com/article/5531466)

Geez, wonder what he'll think of his first hit by an NFL LB.
He should probably punch him too. Let em know who's boss.

mhcook
03-23-2017, 06:51 PM
This was posted on Rotoworld today



An anonymous NFL scout told Bleacher Report that he trusts Oklahoma RB Joe Mixon more than FSU RB Dalvin Cook.
"The pattern of bad decisions are alarming, really," the scout said of Cook. "With my job on the line, I trust [Joe] Mixon a lot more than Dalvin Cook." Though Cook has never been found guilty of a crime, he's been charged with misdemeanor battery (2015), cited for a violation of animal care (2014), charged with firing a weapon and possession of a weapon on school property (2010) and charged with robbery (2009). Cook has also been charged with criminal mischief after allegedly causing property damage with a BB gun. On top of all that, he has shoulder and hamstring issues, fumbling problems and tested horrifically at the NFL Combine. B/R's Matt Miller predicts he'll fall into the second round.

It is much easier to forgive one incident as a poor decision and give that individual another chance.

Assuming Cook has that much arrest history, then I would be very afraid to invest anything in him. It takes a lot of effort to get arrested that many times.

Whoever brought up the point about Hill, I think that is very relevant to compare. There is no doubt that what Hill did was worse and the public as a whole no longer holds that against Hill. While Hill's incident was much worse, the ability to actually see the Mixon incident is what I believe makes it so bad. Very similar to the Ray Rice incident, when it was just words describing what occurred everyone just brushed over it. Then when everyone actually had to see the incident, Rice was no longer of a moral caliber to play in the NFL.

JosieD
03-23-2017, 06:51 PM
Feminist support gender equality as much as Aryan nation supports racial equality.

I am a feminist and I support equal rights for men. I am raising 2 boys. I want them to have every opportunity available to them.

Monsterx
03-23-2017, 06:56 PM
A woman who is has multiple drug arrests, gets drunk in bars and picks fights is trashy in most people's eyes. And yes if someone assaults you, you have every right to defend yourself.

The issue at hand is the person he "defended" himself against.
Just because the legal right may be there doesn't necessarily mean action needs to be taken. A choice was made.

Where is the line in this "assault"? What if a minor had hit him, is it still ok in the name of self defense?

Legal self defense or not, he chose to be in the situation and chose to act.

To be honest, I'm bias. I have a young daughter and it honestly is irritating that this will all be forgiven if he's any good in the NFL.

Cervantes
03-23-2017, 09:02 PM
I think most of the users who have responded in this thread feel similar to me.

If what the victim (female) did to Mixon is ''assault'', given the context/circumstances of this particular incident, then you are a pussy. Mixon approached the woman. I don't care what she did or said, or might have did or said. I don't care about her past drug convictions. What an idiotic excuse.

His reaction to this little woman putting her hands on him (lol) after he tried to square up on her (LOL) was all I need to know.

He decided, at that precise moment, that this woman was a real threat to him, and he had to hit her.

Digest that.

The user who thinks Mixon HITTING a WOMAN in that particular incident is justified is a MORON. Mixon. Moron. Go figure. :cool:

Also, I enjoyed (sarcasm) the notion that defending a woman, or criticizing a man, makes you a feminist.

What a f'ing joke. I hope you don't have daughters.

Now, or ever.

We all understand that violence isn't the answer. And only you can prevent forest fires. But if you are a reasonable, responsible, and decent man with a set of balls, you would not have reacted in the fashion that he did, and if you can't comprehend that, your parents failed, and I repeat, in these nice, bold letters: I hope you do not have daughters, now or ever.

Oh, God bless.

88horsepower
03-23-2017, 09:05 PM
What I'd like to know is, why are any of you trying to reason with this guy?

deansayso
03-23-2017, 09:08 PM
I'm sorry but what does he have to do with this story again???

Hill punched his pregnant girlfriend in the throat. But that's ok because she might have slapped him first.

Cervantes
03-23-2017, 09:09 PM
What I'd like to know is, why are any of you trying to reason with this guy?

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/47/c4/f6/47c4f60b08e3c3b1086a21dee1b606f2.jpg

RogerGodahell
03-23-2017, 09:12 PM
What I'd like to know is, why are any of you trying to reason with this guy?

Good point

TWard
03-23-2017, 09:12 PM
What I'd like to know is, why are any of you trying to reason with this guy?


That's why I gave up. Clearly I wasn't gonna get anywhere.

However, the one thing I'm still confused about is, this woman has a "bad" background apparently, so because of that, she deserves to get knocked out? If it was a straight-A student, who had never touched a drop of alcohol in her life, would she have deserved to get hit if she pushed/slapped him? That part makes no sense to me, at all.

I mean, I was a drug addict for seven years, so if a guy came up to me and called me a f****t, or a b****, do I have the right to punch him in the face? Guess not, since I have a "shady background".

TheFrenzy
03-23-2017, 09:32 PM
Judging by usernames in the poll, it seems like Minnesota fans are ready to welcome him with open arms.

I guess there's a dig there waiting with the AP situation, but I like Vikings fans.

Brobocop
03-24-2017, 06:10 AM
What I'd like to know is, why are any of you trying to reason with this guy?

Because.......reasons.

jstephens24
03-24-2017, 06:37 AM
We all understand that violence isn't the answer. And only you can prevent forest fires. But if you are a reasonable, responsible, and decent man with a set of balls, you would not have reacted in the fashion that he did, and if you can't comprehend that, your parents failed, and I repeat, in these nice, bold letters: I hope you do not have daughters, now or ever.

Oh, God bless.

how did you know I would be reading this??

marinocollector
03-24-2017, 07:28 AM
I have 3 kids... 2 boys one girl... all of them know if you strike someone violently, you better be ready to defend yourself... Its the facts of life... DO NOT PLACE YOUR HANDS ON ANOTHER HUMAN BEING WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES.

To everyone saying the man is a top athlete, he should know better, obviously are not into athletics or ever known anyone in athletics at a high level. We are animals, the best athletes are tuned in to their animal instincts or reacting better than anyone else. To think that they should turn off their basic instincts in a suddenly rising situation is counter intuitive and unfair to ask. Just because he's an athlete does not mean he is held to a higher moral ground.

Also, Mixon is not a woman beater. That is insulting to ANY woman who has been involved in domestic violence. This is an image of someone using self defense after being insulted and attempting to walk away from the situation to only being assaulted. If he was a woman beater he would have hung over her and struck her repeatedly. This was an obvious instinctual reaction to being attacked. It was not planned.

To those bashing feminism. This is not an issue for the feminist movement. Domestic violence is violence in the home between spouses or lovers or family members where one is trapped and cannot escape. Anyone calling this domestic violence is ignorant of what a true victim is and what they go through on a daily basis, most of those women WISH it would be captured on video so they can prove that they are being attacked, but too scared to show anyone the video due to the consequences from the abuser.

As far as the womans history, I think that magnifies the potential situations young athletes find themselves in. Mixon probably sees more damning scenarios a day than most people see in their lifetime, and he chooses wisely. One incident with one woman (who was not in the right) and hundreds of thousands of people get to gain moral high ground on you and judge you harshly and unfairly.

If Mixon was my son, I would ask him how the incident felt, how he felt about his reaction, and if he wished he acted differently, and support the hell out of him. The woman was in the wrong, and even though by social standards Mixon did not act appropriately, his reaction was human and understandable. Perhaps everyone in this thread can act a little more human and realize the kid was put in a VERY bad situation and learned from it.

The woman was not a victim. The woman was obviously the aggressor. And for the feminists trying to defend her, you should be ashamed.

Skootown
03-24-2017, 10:46 AM
To everyone saying the man is a top athlete, he should know better, obviously are not into athletics or ever known anyone in athletics at a high level. We are animals, the best athletes are tuned in to their animal instincts or reacting better than anyone else. To think that they should turn off their basic instincts in a suddenly rising situation is counter intuitive and unfair to ask. Just because he's an athlete does not mean he is held to a higher moral ground.


Oh give me a freaking break with that garbage.

It's absurd to act like he had to throw a haymaker to defend himself, as if he couldn't easily restrain her or walk away.

Ooooh it's his animal instincts. He had no choice but to knock that woman out cold. He couldn't help it because as an athlete he's trained to deck anyone that touches him.

Give me a break.

TWard
03-24-2017, 10:49 AM
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no10pin
03-24-2017, 12:29 PM
This is basically 5 pages of trying to assign blame to one party or the other. It's pretty clear to me who is at fault here. Both of them. She shouldn't have started it, and he shouldn't have finished it that way.

Of course, it has to turn into an over-the-top name calling session like everything else these day, and people will defend their side to the death.

asujbl
03-24-2017, 12:31 PM
I have 3 kids... 2 boys one girl... all of them know if you strike someone violently, you better be ready to defend yourself... Its the facts of life... DO NOT PLACE YOUR HANDS ON ANOTHER HUMAN BEING WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES.

To everyone saying the man is a top athlete, he should know better, obviously are not into athletics or ever known anyone in athletics at a high level. We are animals, the best athletes are tuned in to their animal instincts or reacting better than anyone else. To think that they should turn off their basic instincts in a suddenly rising situation is counter intuitive and unfair to ask. Just because he's an athlete does not mean he is held to a higher moral ground.

Also, Mixon is not a woman beater. That is insulting to ANY woman who has been involved in domestic violence. This is an image of someone using self defense after being insulted and attempting to walk away from the situation to only being assaulted. If he was a woman beater he would have hung over her and struck her repeatedly. This was an obvious instinctual reaction to being attacked. It was not planned.

To those bashing feminism. This is not an issue for the feminist movement. Domestic violence is violence in the home between spouses or lovers or family members where one is trapped and cannot escape. Anyone calling this domestic violence is ignorant of what a true victim is and what they go through on a daily basis, most of those women WISH it would be captured on video so they can prove that they are being attacked, but too scared to show anyone the video due to the consequences from the abuser.

As far as the womans history, I think that magnifies the potential situations young athletes find themselves in. Mixon probably sees more damning scenarios a day than most people see in their lifetime, and he chooses wisely. One incident with one woman (who was not in the right) and hundreds of thousands of people get to gain moral high ground on you and judge you harshly and unfairly.

If Mixon was my son, I would ask him how the incident felt, how he felt about his reaction, and if he wished he acted differently, and support the hell out of him. The woman was in the wrong, and even though by social standards Mixon did not act appropriately, his reaction was human and understandable. Perhaps everyone in this thread can act a little more human and realize the kid was put in a VERY bad situation and learned from it.

The woman was not a victim. The woman was obviously the aggressor. And for the feminists trying to defend her, you should be ashamed.

Yikes.

bwallstreet
03-24-2017, 03:39 PM
Dalvin Cook was arresred for punching a woman outside the bar but there's no video so you don't care.

It doesn't matter he's also been arrested for robbety, animal abuse, possession and discharging a weapon on school grounds and criminal mischief over a 6 year period.

The hypocrisy and selective outrage is a little much.

mhcook
03-24-2017, 03:43 PM
Dalvin Cook was arresred for punching a woman outside the bar but there's no video so you don't care.

It doesn't matter he's also been arrested for robbety, animal abuse, possession and discharging a weapon on school grounds and criminal mischief over a 6 year period.

The hypocrisy and selective outrage is a little much.
It is incredible what a difference it makes on the mind to actually see something rather than be told that something occurred. So far, Cook appears to be receiving a pass for his behavior.

JustinVerlander07
03-24-2017, 03:45 PM
Classic veggie straw argument here! It's been years since I've seen this. Some things never change.

To anyone saying Mixon was using 'self defense', they clearly don't understand what that means, to anyone saying it was ok to hit that girl, you are disgusting.

Tones
03-24-2017, 03:46 PM
he looks like an over-developed 12 year old...

No1CavsFan
03-24-2017, 04:00 PM
Dude is going to be a beast.

I'm not giving a flying sh*t about his issues - I'm snapping his cards up IMMEDIATELY

bwallstreet
03-24-2017, 04:13 PM
It is incredible what a difference it makes on the mind to actually see something rather than be told that something occurred. So far, Cook appears to be receiving a pass for his behavior.

Tyreek Hill literally choked a woman who was pregnant with his child. It wasn't a split second reaction, it was a prolonged decision to wrap his hands around her airway and squeeze. It's been glossed over in my opinion.

Richie Incognito in college broke bones in the face of a man who did and said nothing to him. Was mad at a woman for losing her ambition for sex, stormed out and decked a random guy on his way out. It never getc brought up.

Do I even need to go down the Ray Lewis path? There is hard evidence he participatedid in stabbing 2 men to death.

jlzinck
03-24-2017, 04:53 PM
Methinks that if Mixon was replaced with Mccaffrey veggie may not PC him

JustinVerlander07
03-24-2017, 05:05 PM
Methinks that if Mixon was replaced with Mccaffrey veggie may not PC him

Of course not.

ntgm37
03-24-2017, 05:16 PM
Methinks that if Mixon was replaced with Mccaffrey veggie may not PC him

Quoted for: truth, accuracy, and being 100% spot on.

moosefan87
03-24-2017, 05:24 PM
Veggie don't like cauliflower I think.

asujbl
03-24-2017, 05:25 PM
Methinks that if Mixon was replaced with Mccaffrey veggie may not PC him

Did you see McCaffreys bench? Strength is an issue...

No1CavsFan
03-24-2017, 05:50 PM
While I'm not going to go as far in condoning his behavior, I appreciate your willingness to take own an unpopular opinion. My issue and problem with the attitude toward Mixon is that this was ONE mistake that he made at 18 years old. I don't see this as a mistake that should take away his opportunity to attempt to play in the NFL. This kid deserves the opportunity to learn and grow from his mistake.

I wholeheartedly agree with this reply

When did this happen, 2012? 2013?
F*cking hell guys
PEOPLE CHANGE

I don't condone violence in any way, but this happened when he was 18 years old. I think he has potential to be a superstar, and people need to realise that he was a TEENAGER when this happened

I just hope he proves all the haters wrong, just like Tyreke did last year

jlzinck
03-24-2017, 05:58 PM
Methinks that if Mixon was replaced with Mccaffrey veggie may not PC him

Of course not.

Quoted for: truth, accuracy, and being 100% spot on.

There are also people here who will not collect Mixon because he doesn't look like McCaffrey.

ntgm37
03-24-2017, 08:10 PM
There are also people here who will not collect Mixon because he doesn't look like McCaffrey.

Preach! Lol, we are a funny society, aren't we?

JustinVerlander07
03-24-2017, 08:15 PM
I wholeheartedly agree with this reply

When did this happen, 2012? 2013?
F*cking hell guys
PEOPLE CHANGE

I don't condone violence in any way, but this happened when he was 18 years old. I think he has potential to be a superstar, and people need to realise that he was a TEENAGER when this happened

I just hope he proves all the haters wrong, just like Tyreke did last year

That issue with the person who wrote him a parking ticket never happened in your eyes, I guess. The dude has problems, hitting a female and running away isn't a mistake.

Oh, and Tyreke Hill has no business in the NFL. That dude is a worthless pile of crap.

trixstar
03-24-2017, 08:17 PM
I think a better question for those who have a negative opinion of Mixon and particularly those who are a fan of the team that drafts him. What will your opinion of "your" team be after that?

Stifle
03-26-2017, 05:15 AM
Im not sure if Mixon has apologized to this young lady but he should stand up to her parents and apologize to them as well. If he is done that as well as change his behavior, then I'm a huge believer in history - "Saul to Paul", and somewhere in everyone of us we are in that discussion.
If he hasn't changed as a person, I'm aware the NFL isn't filled with class acts but then how about placing a rule affecting the round in which abusive players can be selected. Mixon can still show the ability to change but teams will not be allowed to select him until the 3rd round, thus changing his salary as well as the teams risk.
As far as looks "McCaffrey" I'm not sure how that young lady looked after she was hit with a right cross. If somebody has the issue of caring about what another persons skin color is then I pray for them. My ex was half Mexican and Polish and her dad was darker than her mom, had a girlfriend who was black for a year and half and I'm in a long relationship with a lady who is full "India heritage" and as much as we all look very different, we are so much more alike. Houdini, it's not the melatonin that created the violence, but the act. Houdini - I can tell you that when a soldier is carried away in a body bag that I can promise you that I don't give a rats rip what color that soldier is, but I grieve for his/her family ! We sacrifice together !
In no shape or form do I condone violence. A woman should never be hit by a man !

silverandblack
03-26-2017, 09:38 AM
I'm a Raiders fan and we need a running back right now. Mixon is by no means a bad kid he just unfortunately got caught up with a trashy woman at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Ill keep my opinion on you defending a guy who punches women in the face to myself to avoid a vacation but I will say that I see no way Mark Davis allows Mixon to be drafted by the Raiders based on his history with the Biletnikoff family. I was shocked they had him in for a visit

SanAntonioSpurs
03-26-2017, 10:17 AM
I have 3 kids... 2 boys one girl... all of them know if you strike someone violently, you better be ready to defend yourself... Its the facts of life... DO NOT PLACE YOUR HANDS ON ANOTHER HUMAN BEING WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES.

To everyone saying the man is a top athlete, he should know better, obviously are not into athletics or ever known anyone in athletics at a high level. We are animals, the best athletes are tuned in to their animal instincts or reacting better than anyone else. To think that they should turn off their basic instincts in a suddenly rising situation is counter intuitive and unfair to ask. Just because he's an athlete does not mean he is held to a higher moral ground.

Also, Mixon is not a woman beater. That is insulting to ANY woman who has been involved in domestic violence. This is an image of someone using self defense after being insulted and attempting to walk away from the situation to only being assaulted. If he was a woman beater he would have hung over her and struck her repeatedly. This was an obvious instinctual reaction to being attacked. It was not planned.

To those bashing feminism. This is not an issue for the feminist movement. Domestic violence is violence in the home between spouses or lovers or family members where one is trapped and cannot escape. Anyone calling this domestic violence is ignorant of what a true victim is and what they go through on a daily basis, most of those women WISH it would be captured on video so they can prove that they are being attacked, but too scared to show anyone the video due to the consequences from the abuser.

As far as the womans history, I think that magnifies the potential situations young athletes find themselves in. Mixon probably sees more damning scenarios a day than most people see in their lifetime, and he chooses wisely. One incident with one woman (who was not in the right) and hundreds of thousands of people get to gain moral high ground on you and judge you harshly and unfairly.

If Mixon was my son, I would ask him how the incident felt, how he felt about his reaction, and if he wished he acted differently, and support the hell out of him. The woman was in the wrong, and even though by social standards Mixon did not act appropriately, his reaction was human and understandable. Perhaps everyone in this thread can act a little more human and realize the kid was put in a VERY bad situation and learned from it.

The woman was not a victim. The woman was obviously the aggressor. And for the feminists trying to defend her, you should be ashamed.

Almost correct. Except you forgot he went into the establishment looking for her, not the other way around. Had he not done that the incident wouldn't have happened. He also claimed the reason he reacted the way he did was because he was in fear of his life, but when he approached her the way he did maybe she was in fear of her life? Her shady history or not, what he did was straight cowardly. The only way to justify what he did was if she actually attacked him with an object or weapon and was seriously trying to hurt him.

Saying that you'd support the hell out of your sons had they reacted the same way shows you are just as cowardly as they'd be. The only time you should hit a female is if shes seriously trying to kill you and you have no other option. If a female pushes you or slaps you, walk away.

As far as trying to justify it as a mistake because he's only 18, that doesn't fly either. I also realize most "athletes" are as dumb as a bag of rocks, but he's old enough to know better. Period.

People saying he's talented and has the potential to be a star in the NFL so let's not ruin his future just because of this one incident are the main problem with athletes thinking they are untouchable. Aaron Hernandez is a perfect example here.

dcarado
03-26-2017, 10:39 AM
I think a better question for those who have a negative opinion of Mixon and particularly those who are a fan of the team that drafts him. What will your opinion of "your" team be after that?


My team is the Cowboys, and even though I can't stand the guy, if my fanhood depended on the character of the guys playing for the Cowboys, I already wouldn't be a Cowboys fan, so it wouldn't sway me one bit.

I'm sure if you look hard enough, you could find one guy on every NFL team that has done something you feel pretty strongly against. The real problem is the culture created around top athletes where if you can play really well and stay out of jail, then it doesn't matter what you do... D1 colleges will give you a "second chance" and you'll still play in the NFL.

IMO, it's not my job to judge these guys. You reap what you sow. If Mixon has really changed since the incident, more power to him. If not, he may make millions and get to play football for a few years, but he will reap what he sows.

Stifle
04-02-2017, 06:58 AM
Had to erase last version because to many people are unaware of the word vessel meaning body. I attempted to do a very short version of what Pastor Lee had preached to our congregation but I shortened it so badly that it had to be deleted.

TheFrenzy
12-05-2018, 12:59 AM
And now the question becomes: What will you do with Kareem Hunt cards???

iplumb1963
12-05-2018, 08:11 AM
hes a scumbag

Siberian13
12-05-2018, 08:38 AM
And now the question becomes: What will you do with Kareem Hunt cards???

The “new” guy will buy all the NT RPAs for $29 :)

shayscards79
12-05-2018, 10:29 AM
And now the question becomes: What will you do with Kareem Hunt cards???

Buy low, he's going to get signed by someone.. probably in the offseason.

majestik101
02-03-2023, 05:29 AM
Oopsie Daisy!

“You should be popped in the face. I should shoot you now,” Mixon allegedly told the woman. “The police can’t get me.”

https://nypost.com/2023/02/02/arrest-warrant-out-for-bengals-joe-mixon-for-pointing-gun-at-woman/?itm_source=parsely-api

blockedbyjames
02-03-2023, 10:02 AM
Oopsie Daisy!

“You should be popped in the face. I should shoot you now,” Mixon allegedly told the woman. “The police can’t get me.”

https://nypost.com/2023/02/02/arrest-warrant-out-for-bengals-joe-mixon-for-pointing-gun-at-woman/?itm_source=parsely-api

Scumbag. But where's anything illegal or non-circumstancial. This happens in every US city every day.

TheFrenzy
02-03-2023, 10:16 AM
OP is just virtue signaling.

:coffee: