What cards of young stars do you look to buy this off-season??

[ChampCards]

With the season coming to an end this week, we know off season is coming after the playoffs, with teams that are not making it to playoffs usually cards will drop off a bit until next season.

What are you looking most forward to buy at a discounted price and perhaps flipping or anticipating a growth in value next season? For me last off-season I know a lot of you guys were buying Giannis (as was I) and it turned out to have brought awesome rewards.

And what do you expect to start dropping and continue to drop after the offseason (On the downward trend).

For me...

Good offseason buys (next season uptrend):
KAT - obvious future superstar, all star, potential hof, super young unlimited potential
Devin Booker - too good of a shooter, prices are still decent
Andrew Wiggins - still needs consistency, but finally starting to come together, and he is so young too
Anthony Davis - superstar who will continue to put up crazy numbers next season
Nikola Jokic - big man but truly special player, could continue to put up crazy numbers next season

Bad offseason buys (off season and next season downtrend):
D'angelo Russell - I think with new draft class, his cards might just keep dropping...
Porzingis - he would be a good buy if melo wasn't stuck there... plus hes a big man (who could be forgotten in the hobby) being in NY definitely helps but with melo not willing to leave doesn't help.....NY won't be trading him but melo being there is gonna be tough for him to grow....
Ben Simmons - prices are too high, hes prob gonna be a great player but prices way too high right now
Elfrid Payton - doesn't seem to have his shot and prices might just keep fading.. forgotten with new draft class

[Pierce09]

Not to knock your hypothesis, but is there a proven record of guys on crap teams cards improving year over year? All of your upside guys are on poo teams, which doesnt lead to gains value wise IMO. I think ok newbies on decent teams have the best upside. KAT may be the only one I see. But it also cannibalizes Wiggins.

[tmar214]

Agree on Porzingis the nagging injuries and bad team are troublesome.

I'd be staying away from Booker and AD. Suns will be bad again and his prices have surged. He's actually shooting the ball worse in the second half of the season so once again its a usage thing. Post all star break 41% from the field, 25 points on over 20 shots per game. AD's stats rate to fall off with a full season with cousins and they dont rate to be a championship contender unless they add some pieces.

Personally like Elfrid payton as a buy but hes a guy I collect. Very quietly putting up massive numbers since the break. 13.4/7.3/8.3


In general I'd say avoid players who are already high and on bad teams that shouldn't see a major uptick in usage. i'd expect it to be a tough year for offseason prospecting as the rookie class is going to be so strong.

For me I'll be looking to buy guys who have superstar potential and are on teams that can be relevant next year who's teams under perform in the playoffs.

Beal and Giannis potentially come to mind from the east. Blake and Cp3 are two in the west if their team burns out and the chance of them switching teams becomes realistic.

[jeebus_86]

I really don't collect cards anymore, but I think Devin Booker would be solid choice, I wouldn't be surprised if he has more explosive games in the future.

[rookies]

2nd best players never sell well look at westbrook when KD was there vs now. Wiggins is second best. Beal second best. Problem with Booker and Im a huge booker fan is suns might get 1st pick and maybe ball or fultz have more hobby love or become the go to option. Can anyone name a guy who is 2nd best on team selling well with huge growth? Also suns are a lottery team again booker is almost a lock to stay at the same price for the next year or slight drop. NO growth IMO.

Paul george has a shot to join a team and be the man in a big market he has value.

Kat obviously I think has the most room, the west next year will be easier and wolves will be big free agent players Plus kat will turn 22 next year another offseason will be great for thibs system.

Giannis has room when healthy that should be a top 3 team in east IMO. Middleton is star I think jabari is like lavine and would be a sweet 3rd option or trade guy.

[ChampCards]

I agree with you, dang didn't really think about that,
the second best thing is a good thing to consider...

I really like Giannis, its just that his stuff is already higher but i guess he still has room to grow.

2nd best players never sell well look at westbrook when KD was there vs now. Wiggins is second best. Beal second best. Problem with Booker and Im a huge booker fan is suns might get 1st pick and maybe ball or fultz have more hobby love or become the go to option. Can anyone name a guy who is 2nd best on team selling well with huge growth? Also suns are a lottery team again booker is almost a lock to stay at the same price for the next year or slight drop. NO growth IMO.

Paul george has a shot to join a team and be the man in a big market he has value.

Kat obviously I think has the most room, the west next year will be easier and wolves will be big free agent players Plus kat will turn 22 next year another offseason will be great for thibs system.

Giannis has room when healthy that should be a top 3 team in east IMO. Middleton is star I think jabari is like lavine and would be a sweet 3rd option or trade guy.

[jjohnson814]

I'm looking to pickup a lot of PC cards in the offseason. Even cards I just recently sold. Prices are crazy with playoffs looming

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[cp3fan]

I agree with you, dang didn't really think about that,
the second best thing is a good thing to consider...

I really like Giannis, its just that his stuff is already higher but i guess he still has room to grow.

Giannis does has room to grow and is gaining popularity with the casual fans but his prices are such that I think he needs to win an mvp or have some epic playoff performances to continue to rise. For your original list, I agree with KAT, AD, Jokic for next year. Probably not so much with booker and wiggins. Although, booker will most likely short spikes in prices due to individual performances ala klay thompson. Wiggins prices are still high relative to production and he is still so inconsistent as well as KAT is the #1 guy on that team. I think those issues hamper his growth potential.

[Doodlegrass]

I actually like Elfrid to pick up as him and aaron gordon have grown a lot this season. I also like Jabari Parker to pick up on the cheap. Marquese Chriss is another guy to pick up, as I think he puts on some muscle in the offseason and comes back a double double machine next year

[Zacy87]

Jamal Murray.

He's getting a shot down the stretch and is playing well. Plus he's a local boy

[cp3fan]

I actually like Elfrid to pick up as him and aaron gordon have grown a lot this season. I also like Jabari Parker to pick up on the cheap. Marquese Chriss is another guy to pick up, as I think he puts on some muscle in the offseason and comes back a double double machine next year

I just picked up the first 3 guys you mentioned and would agree that they have room to grow especially since their prices have dropped. I will say though, elfrid and gordon are likely not to be superstars, maybe a few all star teams and if lucky an all nba appearance. Same goes for Jabari but the price is right for him as well. Marquese Chriss is really intriguing. Tons of potential but not sure about his attitude and work ethic but the potential is definitely there.

[Harper]

Guys with very high usage on very bad teams scare me. They always have the potential to do what Kevin love did. Still a good player but went from puttin up all nba first team like stats with lots of hobby love to borderline all star in the east

This is why I like to look at win shares. It adjust raw averages for how good a team is. It's not perfect but it passes my eye test as an evaluation tool

[volblorx8634]

Agree on Porzingis the nagging injuries and bad team are troublesome.

I'd be staying away from Booker and AD. Suns will be bad again and his prices have surged. He's actually shooting the ball worse in the second half of the season so once again its a usage thing. Post all star break 41% from the field, 25 points on over 20 shots per game. AD's stats rate to fall off with a full season with cousins and they dont rate to be a championship contender unless they add some pieces.

Personally like Elfrid payton as a buy but hes a guy I collect. Very quietly putting up massive numbers since the break. 13.4/7.3/8.3


In general I'd say avoid players who are already high and on bad teams that shouldn't see a major uptick in usage. i'd expect it to be a tough year for offseason prospecting as the rookie class is going to be so strong.

For me I'll be looking to buy guys who have superstar potential and are on teams that can be relevant next year who's teams under perform in the playoffs.

Beal and Giannis potentially come to mind from the east. Blake and Cp3 are two in the west if their team burns out and the chance of them switching teams becomes realistic.

Completely agree here if Blake or CP3 leave L.A. Specifically, I think Blake's athleticism, dunks, passing ability, and age (relative to CP3) would bring him a lot of hobby love if he's the go to guy on a team for an entire year. The only problem is his inability to stay healthy.

[cp3fan]

Completely agree here if Blake or CP3 leave L.A. Specifically, I think Blake's athleticism, dunks, passing ability, and age (relative to CP3) would bring him a lot of hobby love if he's the go to guy on a team for an entire year. The only problem is his inability to stay healthy.

If Blake is the #1 guy on a team, the team will not get very far. Also, dude doesn't do the highlight dunks very often anymore. I think his days of being a hobby superstar are done.

[mindcycle]

I'll comment on the Nuggets since I follow them the most.

I think Jokic has the potential to keep getting better as others have said. He's been so consistent this season after being put in the starting lineup that I only see things getting better with time and as he develops stronger chemistry with his teammates. His prices have dropped a bit from the initial hype and will probably continue to, so the offseason is the best bet if you haven't already grabbed some stuff.

Jamal Murray is priced pretty high already as is always the case with halfway decent rookies. I think he will be good as he's shown flashes but has been wildly inconsistent this season. At times he seems to hit everything, like last night, then there are games where he hits next to nothing which has been more common. His defense also needs to improve. All things that will likely get better in time though. Probably a good offseason buy once prices drop a bit.

Juancho Hernangomez looks to be a solid PF option who I think will take Gallinari's place after he starts declining. "Stealish" prices can still be had on his stuff, but it seems more and more people are seeing his potential.

Malik Beasley is completely under the radar as he just never gets to play due to the already loaded roster. He's shown some promise in the d-league but needs more playing time to really see his potential. Good cheap pickup now and during the offseason if you have a few bucks to spare.

Emanuel Mudiay was demoted to third PG option due to low production numbers. Mainly due to his poor shooting. The dude has a really great work ethic though which is evident in the last few games he's played in due to Jameer Nelson getting hurt. Despite not playing for quite awhile he came back and put up pretty decent numbers. I think he can get back in the starting lineup again if he keeps working to improve his flaws so this off season will be important for him. He's still a gamble but if you still believe he will be a decent player eventually like I do, his stuff has dropped off a lot already and will probably be dirt cheap this off season.

[the27guy]

Rudy friggin Gobert

[Kingschwab4215]

Buy KAT and Giannis--maybe Jokic. Sell most others.

[tjforce]

I wonder (serious question, and not sure trolling), how many people on this thread actually watch and pay attention to the guys they are talking about.

I'm not just talking about looking at the stats, but actually analyzing player skill and performance. There's a big difference between a guy that's making his own shot vs a guy who is a spot up shooter getting fed the ball from a solid point guard.

OP, pretty good list I'd say, although upside for next year seems kind of limited for the buys since they are already going for such high prices (unless New Orleans could somehow put it together and actually win. Davis would be an MVP candidate is that happened.)

The one wildcard in the sell group is Ben Simmons, since we don't know what he's going to do next year, or even what that team is going to look like on the court. Biggest boom/bust on this list.

[mindcycle]

The one wildcard in the sell group is Ben Simmons, since we don't know what he's going to do next year, or even what that team is going to look like on the court. Biggest boom/bust on this list.

This is why I own exactly zero Ben Simmons cards. He could step onto the court next year and absolutely dominate, but paying MVP type prices when he hasn't even played in actual NBA game yet is just absurd IMO. Just like KAT or Wiggins during their rookies years, the only direction prices go from here on out until MVP talk, championships, etc.. is down.

[tjforce]

This is why I own exactly zero Ben Simmons cards. He could step onto the court next year and absolutely dominate, but paying MVP type prices when he hasn't even played in actual NBA game yet is just absurd IMO. Just like KAT or Wiggins during their rookies years, the only direction prices go from here on out until MVP talk, championships, etc.. is down.

I'll agree with most of it, but I my opinion differs a bit on the last point... if he comes out next year, wins ROY by averaging 21/6/6 or 19/7/8 or so,and looks good doing it, I think you see a spike..... The bigger issue I see is what he'll have to do down the line 2-3 years. At that point he'll need to either be an MVP level guy, or the 76ers will have to be serious contenders (that's scary).

He'll kind of be where Giannis is going into next season. To maintain where his prices are now, Giannis needs top be a top 5 MVP guy next year (which he very well may be).

[thecomebacker]

2nd best players never sell well look at westbrook when KD was there vs now. Wiggins is second best. Beal second best. Problem with Booker and Im a huge booker fan is suns might get 1st pick and maybe ball or fultz have more hobby love or become the go to option. Can anyone name a guy who is 2nd best on team selling well with huge growth? Also suns are a lottery team again booker is almost a lock to stay at the same price for the next year or slight drop. NO growth IMO.

Paul george has a shot to join a team and be the man in a big market he has value.

Kat obviously I think has the most room, the west next year will be easier and wolves will be big free agent players Plus kat will turn 22 next year another offseason will be great for thibs system.

Giannis has room when healthy that should be a top 3 team in east IMO. Middleton is star I think jabari is like lavine and would be a sweet 3rd option or trade guy.

Yes. One name..... KOBE ( when he was with Shaq)

[cp3fan]

I'll agree with most of it, but I my opinion differs a bit on the last point... if he comes out next year, wins ROY by averaging 21/6/6 or 19/7/8 or so,and looks good doing it, I think you see a spike..... The bigger issue I see is what he'll have to do down the line 2-3 years. At that point he'll need to either be an MVP level guy, or the 76ers will have to be serious contenders (that's scary).

He'll kind of be where Giannis is going into next season. To maintain where his prices are now, Giannis needs top be a top 5 MVP guy next year (which he very well may be).

I think what a lot of people are discounting is how everything works out with simmons, saric and embiid (healthy). Assuming, a huge assumption I know, embiid is healthy, someone's stats are going to suffer. Embiid established himself as the alpha and that will probably remain. This may put Simmons as second best on that team which means his value potential will be limited. It'll be interesting to see how it all works out.

[Doodlegrass]

I think what a lot of people are discounting is how everything works out with simmons, saric and embiid (healthy). Assuming, a huge assumption I know, embiid is healthy, someone's stats are going to suffer. Embiid established himself as the alpha and that will probably remain. This may put Simmons as second best on that team which means his value potential will be limited. It'll be interesting to see how it all works out.

not necessarily, if they come out and do the shaq and kobe deal then everyone is happy - I think they should move okafor and saric as I think Okafor will be a disruption and saric has played so well they can move him for real talent and get themselves some high level role players - get a defensive stopper, a sharpshooter and versitile big man- however, embiid is such a toss up with his injuries that having saric and okafor around are really good insurance

definitely an interesting team in the offseason

[cp3fan]

not necessarily, if they come out and do the shaq and kobe deal then everyone is happy - I think they should move okafor and saric as I think Okafor will be a disruption and saric has played so well they can move him for real talent and get themselves some high level role players - get a defensive stopper, a sharpshooter and versitile big man- however, embiid is such a toss up with his injuries that having saric and okafor around are really good insurance

definitely an interesting team in the offseason

That is true but how many recent tandems have been like Shaq and Kobe? That's a high level to reach. I agree that Okafor and saric should be moved. Also, whoever they draft will be interesting, especially if they get their pick and the lakers.

[Zacy87]

Anyone wanna buy a 16-17 jokic tie dye?

[ninjacookies]

I think Booker is an absolute monster, but I'm seeing a lot of Bradley Beal/DDR in his career projection. Still insanely young though. But when's the last time a SG's (who doesn't consistently play above the rim, mind you) prices maintained throughout their careers. Outside of Wade (who also happens to have 3 championships under his belt) I can't think of one.

[tjforce]

I think Booker is an absolute monster, but I'm seeing a lot of Bradley Beal/DDR in his career projection. Still insanely young though. But when's the last time a SG's (who doesn't consistently play above the rim, mind you) prices maintained throughout their careers. Outside of Wade (who also happens to have 3 championships under his belt) I can't think of one.

It all depends on his role and if the team plays through him

The line between PG and SG is blurring right now.

Is Harden a SG or PG? Westbrook shoots in SG volume. Over in Golden State, Curry gets a large % of his shots on screens and doesn't play the typical PG distributor role.

And then of course there is Lebron, who is a SF/PG/ Whatever he wants to be.

Booker is nowhere near the levels of those guys yet, but his hobby potential is dependent on if the team wants to make him the focal point of the offense or not. But you're right in the regard of if they get a PG in the draft that's going to take over the majority of the touches and Booker is reduced to a Klay Thompson or Bradley Beal role, then his hobby value is in jeopardy.

[ninjacookies]

It all depends on his role and if the team plays through him

The line between PG and SG is blurring right now.

Is Harden a SG or PG? Westbrook shoots in SG volume. Over in Golden State, Curry gets a large % of his shots on screens and doesn't play the typical PG distributor role.

And then of course there is Lebron, who is a SF/PG/ Whatever he wants to be.

Booker is nowhere near the levels of those guys yet, but his hobby potential is dependent on if the team wants to make him the focal point of the offense or not. But you're right in the regard of if they get a PG in the draft that's going to take over the majority of the touches and Booker is reduced to a Klay Thompson or Bradley Beal role, then his hobby value is in jeopardy.


I stopped really following NBA closely the past few weeks...but what happened to Bledsoe? He has the capability to be one of the best scoring pg's in the league.


Agreed TB is exceptionally young so it's hard to project his future role, but when they did audition him several times at the point earlier in the year it was a nightmare. Turnover machine supreme.

You see guys like DDR vying for the scoring title at SG and basically the maestro of the offense on a playoff team...but his prices do not reflect it.

SG's generally do not get exceptional hobby love unless there is gold hardware involved.

[tjforce]

I stopped really following NBA closely the past few weeks...but what happened to Bledsoe? He has the capability to be one of the best scoring pg's in the league.


Agreed TB is exceptionally young so it's hard to project his future role, but when they did audition him several times at the point earlier in the year it was a nightmare. Turnover machine supreme.

You see guys like DDR vying for the scoring title at SG and basically the maestro of the offense on a playoff team...but his prices do not reflect it.

SG's generally do not get exceptional hobby love unless there is gold hardware involved.

Bledsoe has been shut down for the season. If it's because of actual injury, or just to audition the young guys, I'm not sure. But with Ulis playing well and this draft loaded with PG talent, it doesn't look like he'll be in Phoenix. Will be a good trade asset though.

As for Derozan, he has a few major issues:
1- Nobody really thinks Toronto can get through the East, much less win a title
2- Toronto is a pretty weak market to be in
3- Demar hasn't shown much ability to be one of the top superstars of the era.

He doesn't get the hobby love he deserves, but then again, he hasn't really done anything that will help him stand out 10, 20, 30 years down the road like guys like Lebron, Curry, Durant and now Westbrook have. Until he changes that, he'll continue to sell low.

[mindcycle]

I'll agree with most of it, but I my opinion differs a bit on the last point... if he comes out next year, wins ROY by averaging 21/6/6 or 19/7/8 or so,and looks good doing it, I think you see a spike..... The bigger issue I see is what he'll have to do down the line 2-3 years. At that point he'll need to either be an MVP level guy, or the 76ers will have to be serious contenders (that's scary).

He'll kind of be where Giannis is going into next season. To maintain where his prices are now, Giannis needs top be a top 5 MVP guy next year (which he very well may be).

Maybe if Simmons can improve his shooting a bit over the off season and he comes into his first year strong with good usage and a solid FG% I could see it. The draft class next year is quite strong from the looks of it though so he'll definitely have some competition. Also, coming off a major injury like the one he's gone through is always hard to come back from. Time will tell but I just don't feel that his current prices will hold up next season as they're already MVP/championship level right now. I could be wrong of course, but overall I do hope he's the star the 76ers need, even if that's not a reality right away.

[tjforce]

Maybe if Simmons can improve his shooting a bit over the off season and he comes into his first year strong with good usage and a solid FG% I could see it. The draft class next year is quite strong from the looks of it though so he'll definitely have some competition. Also, coming off a major injury like the one he's gone through is always hard to come back from. Time will tell but I just don't feel that his current prices will hold up next season as they're already MVP/championship level right now. I could be wrong of course, but overall I do hope he's the star the 76ers need, even if that's not a reality right away.

Next year's draft class should be a big concern, I'm not sure that Simmons is at MVP level prices yet.

Simmons Prizm silver 9.5's are selling for 200-250.

Kahwi's are selling for 7-800

Giannis for 6-700

Lebron Chrome 2,500-3,000

Westbrook Chrome (Centering issues)

Harden/Curry are hard to compare because of the limited nature of that set.

On the other hand, he is selling in the ballpark of more proven guys like Kyrie, Anthony Davis, Wiggins, KAT. That's still a a big gamble that he'll be up there on the level with those guys.

[mindcycle]

Next year's draft class should be a big concern, I'm not sure that Simmons is at MVP level prices yet.



Simmons Prizm silver 9.5's are selling for 200-250.



Kahwi's are selling for 7-800



Giannis for 6-700



Lebron Chrome 2,500-3,000



Westbrook Chrome (Centering issues)



Harden/Curry are hard to compare because of the limited nature of that set.



On the other hand, he is selling in the ballpark of more proven guys like Kyrie, Anthony Davis, Wiggins, KAT. That's still a a big gamble that he'll be up there on the level with those guys.



Yeah you're right. I forgot to factor in the current chrome/prizm hype prices, lol. I guess for those seeing him at the same level as AD, KAT, then there's room for growth over his career. I can see it too honestly. I still think they'll drop next year regardless just like Wiggins, KAT, AD, etc.. but just my opinion of course.

[rookies]

not necessarily, if they come out and do the shaq and kobe deal then everyone is happy - I think they should move okafor and saric as I think Okafor will be a disruption and saric has played so well they can move him for real talent and get themselves some high level role players - get a defensive stopper, a sharpshooter and versitile big man- however, embiid is such a toss up with his injuries that having saric and okafor around are really good insurance

definitely an interesting team in the offseason

They arent shaq and kobe. Kobe could shoot and score embiid will demand ball a lot when hes healthy he shows flashes of just greatness. Simmons is not a good buy no way you can say hes a good buy. Very soft player kinda like wiggins I think they are both similar people.

[ninjacookies]

I'd never drop that kind of coin on a player who has concerning issues about their ability to shoot the ball.

I know people can cite Giannis (a huge and rare exception), but remember...people were not dropping this kinda coin for Giannis his first two years while he was a mediocre player still developing his game.

I just feel like there's a lot more room for downside than there is for upside at the current market prices.

[Giantrobot]

On the other end of the spectrum, I would say there are a lot of rookies who didn't get much playing time this year but were 1st round picks and still have potential for big leaps next year. Guys like Ellenson, Papagiannis, Brice Johnson, etc.....some of them can be bought for next to nothing and chances are 1-2 of them will turn it on finally.

[Doodlegrass]

They arent shaq and kobe. Kobe could shoot and score embiid will demand ball a lot when hes healthy he shows flashes of just greatness. Simmons is not a good buy no way you can say hes a good buy. Very soft player kinda like wiggins I think they are both similar people.

I wasn't referencing simmons being a good buy, I was just saying I don't necessarily think that he would suffer because of Embiid if the right offseason moves happen, I also would like to see Monk go the them (and I hope Fox goes to NY) because that frees up the middle much more for Embiid and Simmons. I also think Simmons is a much better ball handler than Wiggins and profiles more like Giannis than Wiggins, which again, works with a player like Monk if Simmons is occasionaly handling the ball and spacing the floor and creating iso shots for Monk. Whatever happens, the 76ers I think are the most interesting team in the offseason for the hobby and for NBA fans in general

[volblorx8634]

On the other end of the spectrum, I would say there are a lot of rookies who didn't get much playing time this year but were 1st round picks and still have potential for big leaps next year. Guys like Ellenson, Papagiannis, Brice Johnson, etc.....some of them can be bought for next to nothing and chances are 1-2 of them will turn it on finally.

I agree, although I would take Skal over Papagiannis from a pure investing perspective.

[LeonfromNC]

It's already too late to get in on Skal cheap lol.

[elimanningbase]

I'll be looking to scoop up some simmons prizms, only because he went the lebron route and i doubt we will ever see an auto from him in a panini product. I think the kid is going to be really special. Summer league was enough to convince me. Sixers could be very dangerous next year with Simmons Saric and Embiid

[volblorx8634]

It's already too late to get in on Skal cheap lol.

Oh yeah? Haven't followed his prices too closely haha I just assumed he'd be cheap on the kings and hasn't done much.

[LeonfromNC]

Oh yeah? Haven't followed his prices too closely haha I just assumed he'd be cheap on the kings and hasn't done much.

Prizm silvers are close to $20 a pop. I'd say the boat is missed if you haven't bought in already.

[Gamecockfan21]

Good Buy- Tim Hardaway Jr.

Continues to improve each year and his high end cards (NT RPA, Next Day Autos) are still in the $40-$60 range.

[Giantrobot]

Prizm silvers are close to $20 a pop. I'd say the boat is missed if you haven't bought in already.

He might still be a good buy if he becomes their #1 option and franchise guy in a year or two. I wouldn't be shocked.

[thecomebacker]

Will be Snatching up some more Wiggins. Like his development so far and durability. Has all-world athleticism and great moves and post game. 3s are improving. He just needs to get more consistent and everything will come together. Future 30 ppg scorer.

[rookies]

Will be Snatching up some more Wiggins. Like his development so far and durability. Has all-world athleticism and great moves and post game. 3s are improving. He just needs to get more consistent and everything will come together. Future 30 ppg scorer.

You mean future 30 ppg scorer for the person he guards? ;)

[thecomebacker]

You mean future 30 ppg scorer for the person he guards? ;)
Who cares? Harden getting an MVP playing even worse D. :) Its not 90's NBA anymore.

[LeonfromNC]

He might still be a good buy if he becomes their #1 option and franchise guy in a year or two. I wouldn't be shocked.

I sure hope so.

[rookies]

Who cares? Harden getting an MVP playing even worse D. :) Its not 90's NBA anymore.

Oh I know Im just kidding. Its not like kat is KG either both need work on D. My only question for Wiggins people which I just can not understand is Kat is better at literally everything. Points, rebounds, assists, blocks, fg%, 3%, FT%, Defense, mid range, post, everything. You mention durability but kat has never missed a basketball game. So wigs doesnt have a upper hand in that and athletically Wigs and KAT are both athletic. I just cant find any reason to really love wiggins and watching him is very annoying on a game to game case and I watch loooots of wolves games. Nearly every night I take away that KAT doesnt get enough touches and I dont think thats being a homer, since january 19 he's getting 29 and 13 shooting 60 40 85! Thats so much better already then AD could even dream of, in his sophomore season.

[jellyboy]

Zingy's card is cheap now, will buy silver PRIZM as many as I can. Also Embiid is another good choice....

[GavinD82]

I'm going to be looking at Tyler Ulis, started grabbing his Gold Standard stuff cheap before his buzzer beater on 5th March against Celtics and since then he's averaged 18.1pts, 7.6ast and 3.1rebs a game.....Thanks to Coach Watson for tanking and giving him more court time, now loads more people are grabbing his stuff :doh:

[MyckKabongo]

Paul George is about to leave Indiana, if not this Summer than next. Do they have a young guy about to take the reins? Perhaps a young guy who just a historically excellent season for a 20 year old big man, comparable to the age 20 seasons of Webber and Garnett?

[ChampCards]

Paul George is about to leave Indiana, if not this Summer than next. Do they have a young guy about to take the reins? Perhaps a young guy who just a historically excellent season for a 20 year old big man, comparable to the age 20 seasons of Webber and Garnett?

can't think of one right now lol.
they'll have to find him in draft.

Where do u think PG13 will go if he leaves?

[tjforce]

Paul George is about to leave Indiana, if not this Summer than next. Do they have a young guy about to take the reins? Perhaps a young guy who just a historically excellent season for a 20 year old big man, comparable to the age 20 seasons of Webber and Garnett?

What bothers me about this guy is that his production has dropped almost across the board since the all-star break.

You seem to follow him closer than I do, is there a good reason for this?