Brooklyn Nets 2017-18 Season Thread

[yankeesfan24]

Well, tonight is possibly the lowest point in franchise history. It can only go up from here :)!.

My hopes for the off-season:

Sign Milos Teodosic @ 3 years, 24 mil
Sign Tim Hardaway JR @ 4 years, 64 mil
Sign Dante Cunningham @ 3 years, 9 mil
Sign Jeff Withey @ 2 years, 10 mil

Trade Trevor Booker on draft night for a second round pick and take back a younger PF/C, also trade/release Justin Hamilton. Possibly trade Kilpatrick for a 2nd round pick as well, or use to move up in 1st one or two slots.

Bring back McDaniels, Goodwin, Dinwiddie, and Acy.

Draft Hamidou Diallo @22, Pasecniks or Kurucs @ 27. Josh Hart in the 2nd round as a 2-way contract guy, as well as bringing JPV from the 2015 draft over.

Ideal rotation for next year:

Teodosic/Lin/Dinwiddie/
THJ/Whitehead/Archie
LeVert/McDaniels/Diallo
RHJ/Cunningham/Acy
Lopez/Withey/Nicholson

Stash the pick @27 until next season.

Lin gets 30 minutes a night as 6th man/combo guard, moving into a more suitable role.

Probably not going to happen at all, but a best case scenario IMO.

Here's to the coming season!

[Rareairx23]

Interesting thoughts as far as trades go, hoping some stuff goes right for brooklyn in the offseason. As a celts fan i do feel really bad for the franchise

[Yaz1966]

Interesting, you don't think Dinwiddie will get more of a run? I thought he was really good this season. Also, you don't want to trade Brook for pick(s)?

[hotbox]

Honestly not really sure what the front office is gonna do but I trust Marks. Personally I'm not really sold on Teodosic but when you have as little talent as we do and a ton of space, it makes sense to try and get him. Would like to see a stash pick with one of our first rounders.

[hotbox]

Also sounds like Marks would like to take on some more salary dumps to get some picks or young players. Lakers could be looking to do that if they go for George.

[yankeesfan24]

Interesting, you don't think Dinwiddie will get more of a run? I thought he was really good this season. Also, you don't want to trade Brook for pick(s)?

Dinwiddie is no more than a 3rd stringer. Obviously, I wouldn't mind seeing Brook traded if the value is great, but odds are that he will be a Net to begin the year.

[yankeesfan24]

Well, let's get weird.

Before the draft and we already made a franchise-altering move. I am absolutely going to miss Brook and wish him nothing but the best, but DLo is a game-changer for us.

Excited for the next few years.

[BBallCT]

Well, let's get weird.

Before the draft and we already made a franchise-altering move. I am absolutely going to miss Brook and wish him nothing but the best, but DLo is a game-changer for us.

Excited for the next few years.

Next to LeVert, nice versatility on the perimeter

[inopethflames]

at least what type of players marks is looking to acquire, the long athletic multiple position player, is probably the correct mold of player/team to go for nowadays. russell im not sure is all that athletic and so far doesnt play defense, hopefully he becomes a star and hopefully is mental ability, focus, and maturity is better than what it seems from the outside looking in.

[hotbox]

Super upset despite the fact that the move makes 100% sense for the team. Brook loved the franchise and very few players would genuinely feel that way about the Nets and their current situation. Glad he managed to become our all-time scorer last season at least. He'll probably have his number retired one day.

With that said I'll get over it, I really like the job Marks has done so far in essentially building this team from nothing. Sure Russell has been labeled to have attitude issues but I feel like Atkinson will help him mature. He's not a superstar yet, but he has serious potential to become one, and that's what the Nets need at this stage in their rebuild. And unlike Andrew Nicholson, Mozgov should at least be able to contribute to the team a bit.

[yankeesfan24]

We got our man signed in OPJ. Just have to hope the Wiz don't match. We have also been linked to Olynyk, which wouldn't be a horrible signing.

Should we miss out on Otto, I'd imagine we go to salary dump mode for assets.

[Rareairx23]

There is a part of me that thinks the wiz dont match the porter contract. Even though they are pretty much capped at this point i have a small feeling they dont match

[yankeesfan24]

Love the Carroll trade because it sheds Hamilton, and we got two picks next year! Good stuff Marks!

[Rareairx23]

Opj offer sheet get matched yet?

[yankeesfan24]

Opj offer sheet get matched yet?

Yeah, that's the only way this deal could have been pulled off.

[Rareairx23]

Oh okay, they gonna go after kcp or are they capped out at this point

[hotbox]

Oh okay, they gonna go after kcp or are they capped out at this point

Still have adequate space to go after KCP if they so choose. Not sure that's the route Sean Marks will take now, however.

[Zacy87]

Love the Carroll trade because it sheds Hamilton, and we got two picks next year! Good stuff Marks!

Why be happy with shedding hamiltons contract when youve now take on Carrolls? I had high hopes for him in Toronto but he did nothing

[yankeesfan24]

Why be happy with shedding hamiltons contract when youve now take on Carrolls? I had high hopes for him in Toronto but he did nothing

Fortunately he is being waived for your sake, but he was far and away the worst player on the team last season.

As far as Carroll goes, there is hope that he will finally be 100% off of the knee surgery. Additionally he fills 2 needs: veteran leadership that is missing between Brook and Foye, and also a need at the 3/4 to compliment RHJ and LeVert. He has had his best seasons w/ Kenny on staff, and there is a plan for him to replicate his role on the Hawks due to the similarity of the systems.

Low risk move as we have all of the cap space in the world, and now could have 3 picks in the top 40 next year, while we had 0 coming into the off-season.

[Zacy87]

Fortunately he is being waived for your sake, but he was far and away the worst player on the team last season.

As far as Carroll goes, there is hope that he will finally be 100% off of the knee surgery. Additionally he fills 2 needs: veteran leadership that is missing between Brook and Foye, and also a need at the 3/4 to compliment RHJ and LeVert. He has had his best seasons w/ Kenny on staff, and there is a plan for him to replicate his role on the Hawks due to the similarity of the systems.

Low risk move as we have all of the cap space in the world, and now could have 3 picks in the top 40 next year, while we had 0 coming into the off-season.

I mean i like the optimism and hopefully he plays better than he did in Toronto for your sake but there were several occasions where it seemed like it was beyond anything physical and he just wasn't mentally there.

I'm glad we got rid of his contract and Hamilton will be waived as well. At the end of the day, odds are the 2 picks end up being low-mid 20s and late 30s

[yankeesfan24]

I mean i like the optimism and hopefully he plays better than he did in Toronto for your sake but there were several occasions where it seemed like it was beyond anything physical and he just wasn't mentally there.

I'm glad we got rid of his contract and Hamilton will be waived as well. At the end of the day, odds are the 2 picks end up being low-mid 20s and late 30s
When your draft pick situation is as bad as the Nets is, you take what you can get. Carroll fits two needs, so this is a win-win trade IMO.

[hotbox]

Looks like Marks got his man (from last summer). Interesting way to use much of our remaining cap, but at least we get Nicholson off the books to soften the cap hit. Compared to what we would have paid Porter or KCP, I think this is a solid acquisition.

[hairyharold]

Looks like Marks got his man (from last summer). Interesting way to use much of our remaining cap, but at least we get Nicholson off the books to soften the cap hit. Compared to what we would have paid Porter or KCP, I think this is a solid acquisition.

agreed i saw this post i was like wtf? crabbe for 12-14 mill a year (with nicholson 6 mill off the books) is pretty good can't complain even though not a huge fan of the player

[yankeesfan24]

Love this trade. Gives us more shooting.

[hotbox]

So while Boston still obviously benefits by having our pick to bring in Kyrie, the Celtics no longer directly benefit from our future performance. Strangely that feels good.

Can't wait for the season to start. Hoping Atkinson can work his magic in terms of player development.

[yankeesfan24]

Good riddance. Fingers crossed it isn't a top 10 pick. If everything (and I mean everything) goes right, Nets could sneak in as an 8th seed this season.

Lots of guys returning, something we aren't used to in Brooklyn.

Less than 2 months until DLo lights Brooklyn on fire!

[SHowley2003]

Good riddance. Fingers crossed it isn't a top 10 pick. If everything (and I mean everything) goes right, Nets could sneak in as an 8th seed this season.

Lots of guys returning, something we aren't used to in Brooklyn.

Less than 2 months until DLo lights Brooklyn on fire!

I think I agree with you. What do you think the 1-10 seeding will be? For the first time in 5 years I'll be hoping BKN exceeds expectations!

[IamRalpho]

I will miss you Nets thread, I will miss rooting against you guys.

Thanks for Jaylen Brown, thanks for Jayson Tatum, thanks for Kyrie Irving.

I hope Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett work out for you guys

[yankeesfan24]

I will miss you Nets thread, I will miss rooting against you guys.

Thanks for Jaylen Brown, thanks for Jayson Tatum, thanks for Kyrie Irving.

I hope Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett work out for you guys

We still have Caris LeVert out of it, so not a total loss ;)

[yankeesfan24]

I think I agree with you. What do you think the 1-10 seeding will be? For the first time in 5 years I'll be hoping BKN exceeds expectations!
My amateur opinion:

1. Cavs (not changing until LBJ leaves)
2. Celts
3. Wiz
4. Bucks
5. Raptors
6. Heat
7. Hornets
8. 76ers
9. Nets
10. Pistons
11. Knicks
12. Pacers
13. Magic
14. Hawks
15. Bulls

Just my opinion, but the Pistons are a dumpster fire. Pacers, Bulls, Hawks all got significantly worse. Hornets got Dwight, but that could be a nightmare, which is where the Nets would sneak in. Knicks have no PG (Ron Baker doesn't count).

[SHowley2003]

I will miss you Nets thread, I will miss rooting against you guys.

Thanks for Jaylen Brown, thanks for Jayson Tatum, thanks for Kyrie Irving.

I hope Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett work out for you guys

Funny you leave out James Young...

[Yaz1966]

My amateur opinion:

1. Cavs (not changing until LBJ leaves)
2. Celts
3. Wiz
4. Bucks
5. Raptors
6. Heat
7. Hornets
8. 76ers
9. Nets
10. Pistons
11. Knicks
12. Pacers
13. Magic
14. Hawks
15. Bulls

Just my opinion, but the Pistons are a dumpster fire. Pacers, Bulls, Hawks all got significantly worse. Hornets got Dwight, but that could be a nightmare, which is where the Nets would sneak in. Knicks have no PG (Ron Baker doesn't count).

Agree with your bottom 5, I think Pistons will beat the 76ers for 8th though

[IamRalpho]

If the Nets finish 9th best in the East, I will kiss Kenny Atkinson on the lips.

Anyways, I am now a huge Nets fan.

LETS GO LINSANITY!

[inopethflames]

interesting over/under. would you realistically accept the nets being 6th worst in the nba this year. thats 5 spots better than last year and wouldnt be giving cleveland a good chance at the #1 pick. its hard to judge it now before we actually see the teams, people are optimistic now, i think that reality will set in more once the season begins and we would probably gladly accept 6th worst.

2 obvious things should/hopefully will happen this season. nets trade booker for a salary dump plus a 1st rd pick. nets fleece some team for a top 40 pick for rhj.

[yankeesfan24]

So last night was fun. DLo looks like a perfect fit in Kenny's system. And if Carroll can stay healthy, he's going to be really good for us. Going to be a good year.

[yankeesfan24]

Horrific injury for Lin, going to put a dagger in the season.

Not the best start, but RHJ and DLo looked really good.

[cornelljw]

Looks like that lin injury could be season ending. Damn

[yankeesfan24]

Lin out for the season. Brutal, as he will now exercise his PO for next year hurting our cap space.

Looks like LeVert or Crabbe will step in at the 2 now with DLo being the 1.

[IamRalpho]

Feel bad for Lin. What a awful video.

Lets go Russell, give the Cavs a late lotto pick!

[yiguiri2002]

Sucks for Jeremy and the team. I was high on them and honestly thought they had a chance at winning 30 something games.

As a Bulls fan, it makes me even sadder because without Jeremy, I don't think this team wins 30 and would be lucky to hit 25. Which means a Top 5 pick for Cleveland and tougher odds for the Bulls.

[rmiller1k]

Lin out for the season. Brutal, as he will now exercise his PO for next year hurting our cap space.

Looks like LeVert or Crabbe will step in at the 2 now with DLo being the 1.

yea his knee must've felt caved in or something he knew immediately, felt terrible for him.

id prefer to start crabbe. caris has better handle and vision, which would help out with dinwiddie.

[yankeesfan24]

yea his knee must've felt caved in or something he knew immediately, felt terrible for him.

id prefer to start crabbe. caris has better handle and vision, which would help out with dinwiddie.

Agreed, as Caris would have a larger role off of the bench.

I think this is good LT for the team, as Lin wasn't a part of the future.

Just puts more on DLo's plate than the front office wanted for this year.

[cornelljw]

Nets should start running a starting 5 of DLO/Levert/Crabbe/Booker/Allen after the L's start piling up.

[cornelljw]

Anyone know whose starting at the 2 tonight? Looking forward to a winnable game this year. Lakers looked so bad last night and seemed like we fleeced them in that trade.

[yankeesfan24]

Solid game tonight. Jarrett Allen needs more minutes already. Kid can play.

[cornelljw]

Solid game tonight. Jarrett Allen needs more minutes already. Kid can play.

His length is crazy. Reminds me of a young Dandre Jordan

[yankeesfan24]

Nets are over .500 for the first time since November 2014.

Carroll, Crabbe, Allen all played awesome and then DLo sealed it.

[JMarchand1981]

Guys.

I just realized that, as a Celtics fan, I should be rooting for the Nets.

I hope they make the playoffs.

[cornelljw]

Ya great win. Maybe the Nets can hang with good teams also. We will find out soon.

[rmiller1k]

Ya great win. Maybe the Nets can hang with good teams also. We will find out soon.

allen looks good i was dead wrong about him when we drafted him. i was basically that kid who was booing porzingis

[cornelljw]

Ya he has a chance to be like a 13/12/2.5 type of guy in his prime

[yankeesfan24]

Ya great win. Maybe the Nets can hang with good teams also. We will find out soon.
They definitely can score with any team in the league, just a matter of defense.

[dasiegel]

Russell looking very well rounded

[yankeesfan24]

Tough one tonight. Offense is fine, but Crabbe couldn't make anything. If he hits a few and Gordon doesn't go 5-5 from downtown, different result. Still early in the season.

[rhigh2390]

NICE WIN Nets fans!!!!

[JMarchand1981]

Very impressive tonight guys.

[yankeesfan24]

What a game, without DLo too. This is a great system when everyone buys in.

[JMarchand1981]

Brooklyn has the same record as the warriors currently.

[JMarchand1981]

What a game, without DLo too. This is a great system when everyone buys in.

Amazing win.

[rhigh2390]

Brooklyn has the same record as the warriors currently.

And Cavs lol

[rmiller1k]

man i always hated on dinwiddie for his pacing...but he proved me wrong tonight. that icey 3 and pushing the ball at the end of the game instead of pulling back...just a great game and an awesome win.

[cornelljw]

Nets are making playoffs this year

[bdoody42]

Nets are making playoffs this year

As a Celtics fan I'm fine with that.

[yankeesfan24]

Nets are making playoffs this year

Only way that happens is if Allen takes the bulk of center minutes. Mozgov can't get the job done in this day and age.

[cornelljw]

Im sure that will happen this season. Atkinson is just easing him in

[rhigh2390]

With every win they get, the value of that pick that the Cavs have goes down lol

[yankeesfan24]

Im sure that will happen this season. Atkinson is just easing him in

Hope so, but he is known to be super conservative. Not sure DLo sniffs 30 mpg this year.

[yankeesfan24]

Injuries keep piling up for this team w/ Acy and Jarrett Allen out tonight. Hopefully the losing streak ends at 2 tonight.

[inopethflames]

nets better win tonight, they could easily be 5-15 after 20 games, if that, with the really hard long road trip thats coming up.

[yankeesfan24]

Atrocious game tonight. Just can't make shots. When LeVert and Crabbe are both off, Nets have no chance.

[dasiegel]

The Nets were ice cold, missed everything, fought back but ran out of gas. Russell looked great, the rest of the team needs some work. They looked really lost the last minute forcing shots.

[RAV2773]

The Nets have no inside presence.... absolutely no low post scoring. If the shots that they chuck up all night are not falling, they have no chance of winning that game. Also RHJ needs to take more shots to the basket. He can easily be a 20-25+ point scorer every game for us.

[inopethflames]

this is where the reality of the nets not signing any big men in the offseason comes into play. even if allen is in, hes unlikely to do anything other than dunks and putbacks. the nets started off good it seems at this point because booker had about the best 3 game stretch of his career. now he cannot make a free throw or a layup, and about the only things hes attempting lately are layups/long layups, and he keeps missing. levert is ice cold and thats because his form isnt good, he may improve but hes not gonna be a great shooter with that form. and the worrying thing is that every shot he misses is on a different part of the rim, its never consistent. he needs to have his form corrected and that probably wont happen, if it ever does, until next summer.

crabbe is basically a max player and hes had like 2 good games the entire season and is ice cold lately except for about 2 shots he'll make in a row. not that he gets or takes a lot of shots to start with.

nets will be lucky to start 5-15 now, this is their probably easiest part of the schedule for the entire season. they should have been 4-1, instead 3-2, now 3-5. they could easily lose every single game in november until they play the hawks back to back at the start of december. they could easily go 0 for november. thatd be 3-18. i think probably they would shoot well a couple games and maybe win 2 games. thats 5-19.

[yankeesfan24]

Really good win last night. DLo and RHJ were huge down the stretch. Hopefully we can make it 2 in a row tonight.

[Vintage Collector]

Love that this thread exists. It's good to know I am not alone in my nets fandom as painful as it is at time. Getting reminded year after year of our mistakes.

[yankeesfan24]

DLo out for 6 weeks minimum. Put a fork in the season. UGH

[JMarchand1981]

DLo out for 6 weeks minimum. Put a fork in the season. UGH

This is a bummer if you are a Nets fan. Also a bummer if you are a Celtics fan.

[BestRCs]

DLo out for 6 weeks minimum. Put a fork in the season. UGH

What's the source? I'm only pulling up "no return timetable".

[yankeesfan24]

What's the source? I'm only pulling up "no return timetable".

Average timetable is 6 weeks for injury. Anyone who follows the Nets knows how conservative they are with injuries. I wouldn't be surprised if he is out until the ASB.

[cornelljw]

Average timetable is 6 weeks for injury. Anyone who follows the Nets knows how conservative they are with injuries. I wouldn't be surprised if he is out until the ASB.

Damnit man

[BestRCs]

Average timetable is 6 weeks for injury. Anyone who follows the Nets knows how conservative they are with injuries. I wouldn't be surprised if he is out until the ASB.

ahh... right on.

Interesting. I don't really follow the nets but I do like Russell.

I think he has a pretty fun style to watch when he is on.

That's some rough news, obviously better to get it right than to get him out there right now but I hope it's sooner than later.

[yankeesfan24]

Brook-win.

Huge game after back to back heartbreakers. Carroll, Booker, Dinwiddie, and Zeller all played well. Hopefully RHJ doesn't miss much time.

[yankeesfan24]

Big Jay with back to back really impressive games. Kid should be starting after the ASB.

[yankeesfan24]

JAH!!!!!!

Going to miss Booker and Kilpatrick, but Jah is a great gamble. Could bring him back if it works out. Stauskas is better than SKil as well.

[joem1cha3l]

I love this move. Love the fact we RECEIVED a pick finally lol

[cornelljw]

Great move by the Nets. Super low risk for Okafor. If he turns out to be a reliable starter this is a win for the Nets.

[JMarchand1981]

As a Celtics fan, I love this trade.

[yankeesfan24]

Great move by the Nets. Super low risk for Okafor. If he turns out to be a reliable starter this is a win for the Nets.
Exactly, no risk.

Let's not forget that Stauskas with a green light could be similar to Joe Harris in this system.

[daeve]

LeVert with 21-10-5-2-2 with 0 TO on 6-10 shooting [and 8-9 FT]... in a win over OKC. Just let him play in Mexico City all the time

[yankeesfan24]

LeVert with 21-10-5-2-2 with 0 TO on 6-10 shooting [and 8-9 FT]... in a win over OKC. Just let him play in Mexico City all the time

He's been putting it together the last few. If he and RHJ continue to develop, and DLo and Jah show more... :D

[rmiller1k]

great win and great trade.

hate losing booker, easily my favorite player on the team. energy and enthusiasm and stats to boot. hope we can get the talent out of nik and jah!

[JCC6603]

Loving how Rondae is playing

[SHowley2003]

I was at the game last night in Boston. I have to say the Nets play hard. Kyrie and Horford were too much for them, but that did not stop them from keeping the defensive pressure up all night! They fought the entire game on both ends of the floor and almost stole one. If they were completely healthy they would be a playoff team IMO.

I'm not sure how you guys feel, and this is based on a single game, but if I were a fan I would want Acy moved ASAP. He hustled and hit a big three at the end, but he never seemed to be playing within the offensive scheme or playing with the other players. He seemed to be trying too do too much and to do his own thing all night. I could be completely off base, it was just a side observation I made from the balcony! Of course that gives me the ability to analyze his game and call him out, right?

[yankeesfan24]

I was at the game last night in Boston. I have to say the Nets play hard. Kyrie and Horford were too much for them, but that did not stop them from keeping the defensive pressure up all night! They fought the entire game on both ends of the floor and almost stole one. If they were completely healthy they would be a playoff team IMO.

I'm not sure how you guys feel, and this is based on a single game, but if I were a fan I would want Acy moved ASAP. He hustled and hit a big three at the end, but he never seemed to be playing within the offensive scheme or playing with the other players. He seemed to be trying too do too much and to do his own thing all night. I could be completely off base, it was just a side observation I made from the balcony! Of course that gives me the ability to analyze his game and call him out, right?

Acy is out of the rotation when Jah gets time Wednesday, IMO. He's a good vet, but takes so many bad shots.

[yankeesfan24]

Two good wins in a row. When DLo gets back, this team is going to be crazy fun to watch.

[yankeesfan24]

A daily reminder that being a Nets fan sucks...

[SHowley2003]

A daily reminder that being a Nets fan sucks...

I won’t repeat myself from the Boston thread but the C’s stole one tonight. I’m impressed with where the Nets are given everything they’ve been through since 2013. You’ll be enjoying some fun and meaningful games next year. That’s a lot quicker than most people imagined would happen. After the 2013-14 season I thought the Nets were set back 10-15 years based on the impact of losing all the draft picks. The current front office has done a tremendous job taking on a tremendous challenge.

[yankeesfan24]

Yet another heart breaker. At least DLo is soon back.

[LeonfromNC]

Jarrett Allen has sneaky good potential

[SHowley2003]

Jarrett Allen has sneaky good potential

and a phenomenal head of hair!

[hotbox]

What a tough couple of games.

[yankeesfan24]

Thank goodness DLo was back. Crazy game, maybe this can get things going again.

[NeilCO]

Diiiiiiiiiiiiiiinwiddiiiiiiiiiiiiiie!

[daeve]

what a shot. dude has some cajones

[rhigh2390]

Love it!

[yankeesfan24]

Great performance by Dinwiddie and RHJ. Once DLo gets going again, this team will be a pain to play.

[JMarchand1981]

I really like seeing this team win.

I will let Cavs fans wish that this team were worse.

[yankeesfan24]

0-4 vs. the Knicks. Sheesh

[yankeesfan24]

Glad the bulk of the team is staying together for the year. If Crabbe can break out of this slump like he did last night, this team could start stealing a few wins again.

[inopethflames]

they are approaching the point ala last season where theyll play several teams trying to tank and get meaningless false wins to improve their record when that other team rests their top 3-4 players and the nets will look good playing against the other teams bench. which im not complaining about getting as many wins as possible since they of course dont have their pick, again.

its hard to believe theres already only 26 games left. the major point for the rest of this season is to watch allen improve like he already has dramatically, and then see if russell can at some point start playing decently this season. and it may matter less, but we can watch if crabbe ends the season hot like he usually seems to so we'll forget about how his bad shooting cost the nets multiple wins over the season after he ends up shooting probably 50% from 3's over the last meaningless month.

the other important thing is rooting for the raptors to lose as much as possible and at least be passed by western teams in the overall standings.