Wilt Chamberlain....

[teosdesserts]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/6cbgx1/wilt_chamberlain_secretly_dominated_professional/

Cool stuff!

[njdunkin1]

Most dominant player of all time. The best? The argument can be made that he was the best center ever. The most dominant? Unquestionable. The dude was desceptively built like a truck--look up the video where he shakes Shaq's hand. He basically tears his arm off.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170520/106aa32dee286bb677ae5d118703e0ff.jpg

[Stifle]

Just finished talking with a older collector (75) today and we discussed the most dominant centers and its 1. Wilt, 2. Moses Malone and then Shaq. Shaq is hands down the most powerful center/player ever in the NBA.
What many people may not know is that Wilt was on the U S International Track team as a High Jumper. Was a Black Belt in Karate and finished his athletic career as a professional volleyball player. This at a ripped 275 lbs.

[6celtics33]

And he worked out with Andre the Giant and could bench 500 pounds and bedded more women than Leo, Matty Dillon, Frank Sinatra, and Jack Nicholson combined

The man put in work

World class stick man, hall of famer they say

[tjforce]

Most dominant player of all time. The best? The argument can be made that he was the best center ever. The most dominant? Unquestionable. The dude was desceptively built like a truck--look up the video where he shakes Shaq's hand. He basically tears his arm off.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170520/106aa32dee286bb677ae5d118703e0ff.jpg

This is best explanation of what Wilt was that I have ever heard.

[JMarchand1981]

This is best explanation of what Wilt was that I have ever heard.



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And he worked out with Andre the Giant and could bench 500 pounds and bedded more women than Leo, Matty Dillon, Frank Sinatra, and Jack Nicholson combined

The man put in work

World class stick man, hall of famer they say

this is.

[duron]

World class stick man, hall of famer they say

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[hoopster3977]

It's a shame that our younger members here never saw Wilt play. I guarantee that many opinions would change on who is the greatest of all time.

[6celtics33]

It's a shame that our younger members here never saw Wilt play. I guarantee that many opinions would change on who is the greatest of all time.

Did you live through the wilt era?

[hoopster3977]

Did you live through the wilt era?

Started following Wilt in 1963.

[6celtics33]

Can you give some insight into wilts production drop off from regular season to playoffs. Most dominant scorers are able to maintain their current level of production from regular season to playoffs.

Defense is certainly more keyed in on the great players but you know the games are 2-3 per week and their minutes go up so that should be neutralized. Jordan for example went from 30.1 regular season to 33.4 playoffs.

Wilt went from 30.1 to 22.5 which is a significant drop, by far the biggest drop by any top 10 type player.

What happened?

[ninjacookies]

Can you give some insight into wilts production drop off from regular season to playoffs. Most dominant scorers are able to maintain their current level of production from regular season to playoffs.

Defense is certainly more keyed in on the great players but you know the games are 2-3 per week and their minutes go up so that should be neutralized. Jordan for example went from 30.1 regular season to 33.4 playoffs.

Wilt went from 30.1 to 22.5 which is a significant drop, by far the biggest drop by any top 10 type player.

What happened?

Too busy scoring the remaining 4-5 days of the week.

[Chain]

Can you give some insight into wilts production drop off from regular season to playoffs. Most dominant scorers are able to maintain their current level of production from regular season to playoffs.

Defense is certainly more keyed in on the great players but you know the games are 2-3 per week and their minutes go up so that should be neutralized. Jordan for example went from 30.1 regular season to 33.4 playoffs.

Wilt went from 30.1 to 22.5 which is a significant drop, by far the biggest drop by any top 10 type player.

What happened?

It's because most of his playoff games (playoff success) were after 1966 when he sacrificed scoring for more assists and team play to win championships. He had 52 playoff games up to 1966 and 108 after. His playoff average up to 1966 is 32.9 ppg.

Because of this shift in his play, he did win Championships in 1967 as a more well rounded team player with the Sixers, and in 1972 as an aging great among an all-star cast with the Lakers. He also was of course the assist leader of 1968.

[rats60]

It's because most of his playoff games (playoff success) were after 1966 when he sacrificed scoring for more assists and team play to win championships. He had 52 playoff games up to 1966 and 108 after. His playoff average up to 1966 is 32.9 ppg.

Because of this shift in his play, he did win Championships in 1967 as a more well rounded team player with the Sixers, and in 1972 as an aging great among an all-star cast with the Lakers. He also was of course the assist leader of 1968.

I have posted a similar answer to this posters same question before. He was just trolling.

Edit, also prior to 1966, you could win a championship by winning only 2 series, there were a lot fewer playoff games. Wilt's reduced emphasis on scoring coincided with an expansion of the league and playoff games. More playoff games, but the same number of regular season games.

[6celtics33]

I have posted a similar answer to this posters same question before. He was just trolling.

You don't post similar anything rats. You just talk down to people when they don't agree with you.

Am I'm not trolling. I'll probably troll you now and forever because you're a "Richard" but I was asking a question to them.

[6celtics33]

So we're all in agreement that wilt couldn't dominate and lead his team to a title. He had to play a more team oriented game in order to win. If one man scores 50 almost every time then his teammates probably won't be much help other than giving a good entry pass.

[6celtics33]

I have posted a similar answer to this posters same question before. He was just trolling.

Edit, also prior to 1966, you could win a championship by winning only 2 series, there were a lot fewer playoff games. Wilt's reduced emphasis on scoring coincided with an expansion of the league and playoff games. More playoff games, but the same number of regular season games.

So as talent became more diluted he scored less what? On purpose?

[Chain]

So we're all in agreement that wilt couldn't dominate and lead his team to a title. He had to play a more team oriented game in order to win. If one man scores 50 almost every time then his teammates probably won't be much help other than giving a good entry pass.

I agree with this. The results speak for themselves. No one player did carry an entire team by himself to a championship. Even Jordan had to wait for Pippen.

[Deadshot]

Why does every Wilt thread have to turn into this? OP posted an amazing find - we can debate all of that other stuff in other threads.

In honor of the new info I'd like to post one of my Wilts. Unfortunately it's a dark sig on a dark background, but it's Wilt!

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/506/32301884745_f973d1243c_o.jpg

[nman84]

Can you give some insight into wilts production drop off from regular season to playoffs. Most dominant scorers are able to maintain their current level of production from regular season to playoffs.

Defense is certainly more keyed in on the great players but you know the games are 2-3 per week and their minutes go up so that should be neutralized. Jordan for example went from 30.1 regular season to 33.4 playoffs.

Wilt went from 30.1 to 22.5 which is a significant drop, by far the biggest drop by any top 10 type player.

What happened?

Bill Russell? I'm guessing that was the answer you wanted

[oldschooled]

Can you give some insight into wilts production drop off from regular season to playoffs. Most dominant scorers are able to maintain their current level of production from regular season to playoffs.

Defense is certainly more keyed in on the great players but you know the games are 2-3 per week and their minutes go up so that should be neutralized. Jordan for example went from 30.1 regular season to 33.4 playoffs.

Wilt went from 30.1 to 22.5 which is a significant drop, by far the biggest drop by any top 10 type player.

What happened?

Its because Wilt went into different phases of his play. 1st, he was asked to score, next to be a playmaker and lastly to be a defender. He adjusted his game for whatever was needed. Especially when he matured.

[blinkme323]

Wilt could have easily dropped 25-30 a game in the twilight of his career, but that's not where his head was at. He conquered scoring early in his career and then wanted to move on to being more of a playmaker / defender.

Players would rag on him from time to time about this and he would subsequently go out and drop 50 just to show them he still had it. Then he would go back to playing his game again.

[goehring9]

Wilt could have easily dropped 25-30 a game in the twilight of his career, but that's not where his head was at. He conquered scoring early in his career and then wanted to move on to being more of a playmaker / defender.

Players would rag on him from time to time about this and he would subsequently go out and drop 50 just to show them he still had it. Then he would go back to playing his game again.

Exactly this ... remembering also he was only center ever to lead league in assists as well

[Skybox]

IMO it can be argued that Wilt is a top three American athlete of all time & possibly the greatest American athlete ... and that's just on the court/field :)

[gomiamigo]

Wilt still the only person to lead the NBA in scoring, rebounding and assists.

GOAT ainec.

[asujbl]

Started following Wilt in 1963.

Dad???

[gomiamigo]

Exactly this ... remembering also he was only center ever to lead league in assists as well

My fave story like this is in 1980 Magic organized his own summer practices with only the top players. He also asked Wilt to play since he was still ridiculously fit and of course Wilt snap-agreed.

Magic was on the other team and went in for a layup and Wilt blocked it. Magic cried foul. Wilt said, 'No way, that was clean' but Magic's running the game so he gets his foul.

Wilt then says, 'There will be no more layups in this gym today.'

All attendees including Magic confirm Wilt swatted every at-the-basket shot for the rest of day's run. [Magic basically makes fun of himself when he tells this story]

At age 54. :eek:



Ironically, MJ's age this summer....