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drobfan8
08-07-2017, 09:59 PM
Just figured I'd get some discussion going and hopefully I can get some answers.

We know the 90s stuff /100 is reasonably scarce.

But what are the lowest #d 90s Parallels out there? I have a Credentials Chris Anstey from 97/98 numbered to just 13. Other than the PMG greens, are the Credentials Future and now the rarest out there?

Full disclosure I do have the card on ebay for sale, but I'm really just looking to get an idea of price.

So, what are the RARE 90s Parallels?

Doublexthebeast
08-07-2017, 10:08 PM
98/99 and 99/00 Hoops Starting 5's are all numbered to 5. Then, you step up to all of the masterpiece 1/1's. 97/98, 98/99, 99/00 Credentials all have some cards that are low numbered. It's both Credentials Future and Now sets. They are numbered to a certain number of total sets and depending on where the player is in the checklist will have a different serial number.

6celtics33
08-07-2017, 10:10 PM
A member posted that Sprewell numbered 6/8 not too long ago

Doublexthebeast
08-07-2017, 10:16 PM
Besides my masterpieces of Grant Hill, my lowest numbered cards are probably the 99-00 Legacy /20, 99-00 Fleer Supreme Court /20, and 98-99 Fleer Brillants 24K Gold /24. Those are pretty low numbered and hard to find.

CastleBeachCards
08-07-2017, 11:35 PM
Skybox Rubies are rare at /50 and /45
Finest gold embossed die cut refractors /74
Metal Fusion gold titanium /40
Stadium Club Triumvirate Translucence /18

Just off the top of my head..........
Oh I made up the last one . lol

Chain
08-08-2017, 12:10 AM
There are also printing plates from 97-98 and 98-99 Stadium Club which are 1/1 but have four versions (/4 if you ask me).

Duncancollector
08-08-2017, 12:29 AM
Flair Legacy 99/00 to 20
Fleer 99/00 to supreme court 20

bjho852
08-08-2017, 12:52 AM
(a) 1997-98 E-X2001 - Essential Credentials Now #1 (Grant Hill)
(b) 1999-00 Upper Deck Retro - Inkredible Level 2 (Anfernee Hardaway)

Both are 1-of-1's......and I have never, ever seen both cards surface, since their respective products were released almost 20 years ago. If any of you here have any of the two cards above, please, please post a picture here just for the eye candy, a sweet one.

bdrr
08-08-2017, 12:55 AM
A member posted that Sprewell numbered 6/8 not too long ago

I'M INTERNET FAMOUs

NickM
08-08-2017, 01:08 AM
1999-2000 Upper Deck MVP Super Scripts were /25.

drobfan8
08-08-2017, 01:12 AM
Great info. Thanks team.

The Credentials set is an intriguing one so I'll hold on to the Anstey. I was offered $200 for it. Which would probably raise.some eyebrows to some.

But being that he's an Aussie and it's /13 I'm gonna continue to admire its beauty.

Didn't the Mercer sell.for.something ridiculous?

marinocollector
08-08-2017, 07:05 AM
Great info. Thanks team.

The Credentials set is an intriguing one so I'll hold on to the Anstey. I was offered $200 for it. Which would probably raise.some eyebrows to some.

But being that he's an Aussie and it's /13 I'm gonna continue to admire its beauty.

Didn't the Mercer sell.for.something ridiculous?

Like $15000.... can't wait to see what the Hill Now would bring.

gslayton
08-08-2017, 07:21 AM
Like $15000.... can't wait to see what the Hill Now would bring.

What mercer sold for that??

derotter
08-08-2017, 08:06 AM
Hoops Starting Five came first in mind, numbered to 5.

I have a Big Dog, still looking for the another one (1998-99 version)

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5656/31858187076_74440ed248_z.jpg

@titi_rennais has the 3 different Grant Hill, quite an accomplishment if you ask me (Hill was included in the Stepping Out subset in 1998-99)

https://scontent-sjc2-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/c135.0.809.809/17438567_763711553790701_8981300975608266752_n.jpg

https://www.instagram.com/titi_rennais/

kukocitb
08-08-2017, 08:15 AM
What mercer sold for that??

Pretty sure it was a credentials numbered to one or two.

gslayton
08-08-2017, 08:25 AM
Pretty sure it was a credentials numbered to one or two.

Anyone know if that was on ebay? That is huge money

kukocitb
08-08-2017, 08:26 AM
Anyone know if that was on ebay? That is huge money

I am pretty sure it was but I have no link. Yeah I was shocked by the price too.

buckunteer
08-08-2017, 08:57 AM
are we talking non-1/1s or just all low-numbered? You've got 1998 UD Hardcourt Jordan Holding Court silver versions /23 and gold 1/1 versions. 98-99 Black Diamond MJ Sheer Brilliance Extreme /23, 98-99 and 99-00 UD base gold parallel 1/1s, the legacy/platinum 1/1 masterpieces that doublexthebeast mentioned as well. And the low numbered credentials based on the set numbering (for instance, the 99-00 credentials future Mitch Richmond is /3 and I'll likely never see it in my lifetime lol).

bjho852
08-08-2017, 09:05 AM
Pretty sure it was a credentials numbered to one or two.

1997-98 E-X2001 Essentials Credentials Future #80. It is 1-of-1.
An old issue of Beckett (forgot which one though) once had an article about this card being pulled.

bjho852
08-08-2017, 09:07 AM
Anyone know if that was on ebay? That is huge money

The sale happened on eBay, but that is quite sometime ago. Who knows if/when the card will surface again.

kukocitb
08-08-2017, 09:10 AM
The sale happened on eBay, but that is quite sometime ago. Who knows if/when the card will surface again.

thanks for the info! I knew it was stupid rare.

marinocollector
08-08-2017, 09:19 AM
Surprised no one has mentioned the Precious Gem Masters

gslayton
08-08-2017, 09:38 AM
The sale happened on eBay, but that is quite sometime ago. Who knows if/when the card will surface again.

Not seeing anything on worth point. If anyone remembers this better please chime in!

SteveO21
08-08-2017, 10:27 AM
Another early serial numbered set not being mentioned is the 97-98 Finest Embossed Refractors /263. Little higher print run than others mentioned here but they can still be pretty damn hard to find if you're a player collector. They're also cool because they had the "atomic refractor" look on the back of the card too. The bitch about them is they're really hard to find without any discoloration. You'll see Stoudamire here looks almost yellow.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4384/36426222655_a8e50ae3e7_n.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XuRUVD)https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4423/35591364344_9335a7718f_n.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/We63CQ)
1997-98 Finest Embossed Refractors #138 Damon Stoudamire S /263 (https://flic.kr/p/We63CQ) by SMosley21x (https://www.flickr.com/photos/58237108@N06/), on Flickr

marinocollector
08-08-2017, 10:33 AM
You guys suck. LOL

http://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=773064

bjho852
08-08-2017, 10:39 AM
you guys suck. Lol

http://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=773064

lol

i know it i know it!!!!!!! Lol

Round Mound
08-08-2017, 10:46 AM
Stadium Club Triumvirate Translucence /18


What are those?

rangeljon
08-08-2017, 11:04 AM
Yeah, Credentials and Starting 5s all day. 24K out of Brilliance to... /24, Classic '61 from 98-99 Fleer Tradition to, you guessed, it /61.

Rubies, PMGs, etc.

Other than that there's some to 100, like Playmakers, Apparitions Refractors.

NickM
08-08-2017, 11:43 AM
What are those?

An insert, not a parallel of the base set.

Jasondr91
08-08-2017, 11:50 AM
Ron Mercer Credentials RC /1 or Dirk Flair RC /1????

LAWD......

rangeljon
08-08-2017, 11:52 AM
An insert, not a parallel of the base set.

Lol. Classic '61 is so meta. It's a parallel of a non-base insert.

Round Mound
08-08-2017, 12:43 PM
An insert, not a parallel of the base set.

I can't find any trace of the Translucence. I only knew about the Luminescent and the Illuminator.

SteveO21
08-08-2017, 12:55 PM
Skybox Rubies are rare at /50 and /45
Finest gold embossed die cut refractors /74
Metal Fusion gold titanium /40
Stadium Club Triumvirate Translucence /18

Just off the top of my head..........
Oh I made up the last one . lol

Is everyone missing the last line?

Sigchiwab44
08-08-2017, 01:06 PM
There was a link on facebook about the 1/1 Ron Mercer selling a few years ago on Ebay for 15 or 16k. You can probably google it and pull up the Ebay history. I've been offered pretty crazy money for my kvh 1/1 in the 98-99 credentials set but not quite 15k.

If you are the guy collecting the credentials set, then you have to have the 1/1 to complete it...thus the reason for the crazy high prices.

CastleBeachCards
08-08-2017, 01:08 PM
I saw that auction........it was pretty awesome. I'm sure the Hill would be 15-20kThe sale happened on eBay, but that is quite sometime ago. Who knows if/when the card will surface again.

Doublexthebeast
08-08-2017, 05:23 PM
I saw that auction........it was pretty awesome. I'm sure the Hill would be 15-20k

I've often thought about what I would throw down for it if I had the money. I think $20k is definitely not out of the question. It would not surprise me to see it push $30k although I don't think it would go that high.

AbraCalabro
08-08-2017, 05:50 PM
Anyone know if that was on ebay? That is huge money

If you're talking about the Ron Mercer, then yeah, I believe it was sold on auction about 2 or 3 years ago. I have pics of the card somewhere.

Starman101
08-08-2017, 05:58 PM
Not sure but if I had to pick the rarest MJ parallel I wish I owned it would be the 97 PMG Green MJ / 10

And for Kobe.....

Just see Sir Gslayton ;)! :)! :)!

bjho852
08-08-2017, 06:54 PM
I actually wouldn't be surprised that the BIN button would be hit almost instantly even if the Grant Hill card is set at the price range north of $20k. That is, IF the card ever surfaces.
I always have a feeling that the card still might not be pulled yet. Doesn't mean that I will fetch north of $400 range to try any of the remaining boxes though. Too much for my blood.

I'm sure the Hill would be 15-20k

I've often thought about what I would throw down for it if I had the money. I think $20k is definitely not out of the question. It would not surprise me to see it push $30k although I don't think it would go that high.

gslayton
08-08-2017, 07:45 PM
Not sure but if I had to pick the rarest MJ parallel I wish I owned it would be the 97 PMG Green MJ / 10

And for Kobe.....

Just see Sir Gslayton ;)! :)! :)!One more time [emoji23] https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170809/8f1f6c7f20ba685507ba3071356054bb.jpg

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Doublexthebeast
08-08-2017, 09:24 PM
One more time [emoji23] https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170809/8f1f6c7f20ba685507ba3071356054bb.jpg

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Showoff!!!!

ljandkg
08-08-2017, 11:12 PM
97-98 Garnett Essential Credentials Future (I think - the yellow version anyway) is /2.

Starman101
08-09-2017, 12:05 AM
One more time [emoji23] https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170809/8f1f6c7f20ba685507ba3071356054bb.jpg

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Green!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D

Man that card is awesome

Hot damn!!!

bjho852
08-09-2017, 10:14 AM
97-98 Garnett Essential Credentials Future (I think - the yellow version anyway) is /2.

Yellow is Now. :)

ljandkg
08-10-2017, 02:23 PM
Yellow is Now. :)

Shows u what I know!! :doh: