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Gsw0716
10-10-2017, 11:39 PM
I mentioned that my cousin went through his old cards yesterday and randomly found a green Eddie Jones PMG 9/100 and a few of you guys wanted to see a picture of it, so just thought I would share
Roargan
10-10-2017, 11:41 PM
SUPER NICE!! how cool to find something like that in your own collection.
Gsw0716
10-10-2017, 11:42 PM
funny thing is he hasn't collected in 20 years, that was from back when we were collecting as kids, I wish I was that lucky to find something like that in my stash instead of Jerry Stackhouse Rookie Sub Set Cards lo
Roargan
10-10-2017, 11:52 PM
From time to time I'll think about the friends I had in elementary/middle school who just had cards all over their room, some were on the floor & stepped on then thrown away by their parents. Makes you think how many super rare cards ended up in the dump.
derotter
10-11-2017, 04:04 AM
Wow amazing :eek:
phdbeckett
10-11-2017, 05:08 AM
Over under on PMs you have received? My bet is 15. The flippers are purporting to be the few people on here chasing this set. If your cousin is contemplating selling and you have doubts, feel free to share.
COMCMax
10-11-2017, 05:21 AM
Over under on PMs you have received? My bet is 15. The flippers are purporting to be the few people on here chasing this set. If your cousin is contemplating selling and you have doubts, feel free to share.
lol, I say over by noon. Hard to value those greens. They can surprise you.
CastleBeachCards
10-11-2017, 10:51 AM
I'm sure plenty cards got thrown out in the 90's and certainly before that.
That Jones card has to be like 2k right there
GeechQuest
10-11-2017, 10:54 AM
I'm sure plenty cards got thrown out in the 90's and certainly before that.
That Jones card has to be like 2k right there
No, it's not worth that much.
It is worth quite a bit though, considering it's Eddie Jones and all.
COMCMax
10-11-2017, 10:59 AM
His red's get between $300-400. I've seen some no name Green's go for way more than you would expect. Only one way to find out.
Example..this went for $1370 back in February of this year.
https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/1/0217/12/1997-98-fleer-metal-universe-precious_1_73931d467fdcd1b8adaa00d76bf401b1.jpg
phdbeckett
10-11-2017, 11:01 AM
If Nat or MinnesotaChill weigh in, we'd see. I'd say north of $2k, only if there hasn't been one online for sale in the past 3 years. If yes, then maybe less than $2k but not by much.
GeechQuest
10-11-2017, 11:08 AM
His red's get between $300-400. I've seen some no name Green's go for way more than you would expect. Only one way to find out.
Example..this went for $1370 back in February of this year.
https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/1/0217/12/1997-98-fleer-metal-universe-precious_1_73931d467fdcd1b8adaa00d76bf401b1.jpg
And the Shawn Bradley went for $565 in July. Chris Childs for $500 with just a single bid in August.
So you have to think, why did Bradley and Childs go for roughly 60% less than Charles Outlaw? I suspect it's because the Outlaw is pictured with Alonzo in full color. I can't think of any other PMG that has two players in full color, instead of just the single player the card is made after. I would guess that's why that is the outlier card more than anything else.
COMCMax
10-11-2017, 11:11 AM
And the Shawn Bradley went for $565 in July. Chris Childs for $500 with just a single bid in August.
So you have to think, why did Bradley and Childs go for roughly 60% less than Charles Outlaw? I suspect it's because the Outlaw is pictured with Alonzo in full color. I can't think of any other PMG that has two players in full color, instead of just the single player the card is made after. I would guess that's why that is the outlier card more than anything else.
Yea, or set collectors going at it. I'm with you. Those green's are wildcards when it comes to pricing.
rmiller1k
10-11-2017, 11:12 AM
eddie jones 600-1200 id guess. crazy to just have that as an afterthought lol
GeechQuest
10-11-2017, 11:29 AM
eddie jones 600-1200 id guess. crazy to just have that as an afterthought lol
I'm in this range as well. I know as a Lakers fan I'd pick it up at $600 if I had no other life needs/card needs that were to be met at that time.
Doublexthebeast
10-11-2017, 11:39 AM
eddie jones 600-1200 id guess. crazy to just have that as an afterthought lol
I'm in this range as well. I know as a Lakers fan I'd pick it up at $600 if I had no other life needs/card needs that were to be met at that time.
It would bring way more than that. It is probably a minimum of $1500 and could go for over $2000 easily. $600 would be a great steal.
GeechQuest
10-11-2017, 11:51 AM
It would bring way more than that. It is probably a minimum of $1500 and could go for over $2000 easily. $600 would be a great steal.
We can agree to disagree on that. The Barkley Green went to $2211 just last year. It's not like infinitely more people have jumped in to the PMG market that would cause this Eddie Jones to push Barkley levels. The McGrady did a little over $6000. Would you rather have 3 Eddie Jones or 1 McGrady???
These cards are pricey for sure, but Id say only 20-25% of the checklist can sustain at levels above $1200.
When these cards are auctioned, they don't reach these 4 figure levels that you're talking about. When they're listed as BIN/OBO above $1200, they don't sell.
bes04c9
10-11-2017, 12:34 PM
People pay for Eddie Jones.
Gsw0716
10-11-2017, 12:52 PM
Bo Outlaw was the man lol. I agree that these are very tough to get a gauge on, and my cousin isn't sure if he wants to sell it, but I can assure you that there have been offers well above 600
TWard
10-11-2017, 01:15 PM
Bo Outlaw was the man lol. I agree that these are very tough to get a gauge on, and my cousin isn't sure if he wants to sell it, but I can assure you that there have been offers well above 600
If I were your cousin, I’d sell that thing instantly. Been sitting in a box for years, that’s basically free money.
If it were me, I’d do 1 of 2 things:
1) List it for $2500 it $3000 OBO and field offers. If you get an offer over $2k with great feedback, it should be an easy call
2) Send it to a big time consignor like Probstein or PWCC, have it run for 7 days and let it run
Good luck! And that’s one helluva card!
hoopstaj
10-11-2017, 01:17 PM
what a great find! would love that as a Lakers fan but definitely out of my price range. Good luck with whatever he decides to do!
derotter
10-11-2017, 02:17 PM
The Big Dog was sold for around 950$, so I would place the Eddie Jones in that price range.
duron
10-11-2017, 08:28 PM
What a f'ing find, that's just bonkers. Does your cousin remember how he got it? Couple loose packs? Box? Traded some poor soul of a kid perhaps? Lol.
I used to love Eddie Jones, such a smooth, finesse player.
Gsw0716
10-11-2017, 11:13 PM
What a f'ing find, that's just bonkers. Does your cousin remember how he got it? Couple loose packs? Box? Traded some poor soul of a kid perhaps? Lol.
I used to love Eddie Jones, such a smooth, finesse player.
Probably from loose packs because we never bought boxes as kids, must have meant something to him back then since it was sleeved and top loaded at least lol. I wonder how much these booked for back then
dengbang
10-12-2017, 12:21 AM
So sick, we need a better photo! Love to see some shiny green!
pennywise
10-12-2017, 12:35 AM
So sick, we need a better photo! Love to see some shiny green!
+1. Unreal find!
mrchipz
10-12-2017, 02:57 AM
i know for a fact it will go for more then $600. cause ill make an offer on it right now for $800. standing offer. pm me if interested.
COMCMax
10-12-2017, 05:48 AM
Well, were about to find out.
97 98 Metal Universe Basketball PMG Precious Metal Gem GREEN Eddie Jones 9/100 (http://bit.ly/2xAT1Y8)
DajuanWagner
10-12-2017, 08:02 AM
So sick, we need a better photo! Love to see some shiny green!
Here ya go:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/162709856011?ul_noapp=true
Oops, didn't see someone already posted it. My bad.......
Whodey14
10-12-2017, 08:54 AM
Would probably be wise to take some better pics.
COMCMax
10-12-2017, 09:11 AM
double post...
COMCMax
10-12-2017, 09:12 AM
Would probably be wise to take some better pics.
It's got that vintage find in the attic look. Flip phone photo, craigslist background setting, and in a oldschool toploader. OP, did you guys take it out the penny sleeve to make sure none of the foil had latched on?
Gsw0716
10-12-2017, 05:26 PM
Yeah, It's totally fine
duron
10-12-2017, 06:16 PM
Probably from loose packs because we never bought boxes as kids, must have meant something to him back then since it was sleeved and top loaded at least lol. I wonder how much these booked for back then
Winning lottery pack, nice.
I never even top loaded my favorite cards back then. The most I'd do was penny sleeve it before putting it in a 9-pocket for my giant binder. 90% of my pulls would go raw-dog (no penny sleeve) into a binder page.
COMCMax
10-14-2017, 10:00 AM
Yeah, It's totally fine
If you're buddy isn't in a hurry to move it I would suggest PWCC/Probstein. Nice scans, big audience, and these kind of cards typically do well cosigned.
Round Mound
10-14-2017, 10:08 AM
We can agree to disagree on that. The Barkley Green went to $2211 just last year. It's not like infinitely more people have jumped in to the PMG market that would cause this Eddie Jones to push Barkley levels.
I have had quite a few offers for my Barkley, way more than the 2K you mention.
GeechQuest
10-14-2017, 01:27 PM
I have had quite a few offers for my Barkley, way more than the 2K you mention.
Cool.:)!
I was just posting what the last one that sold publicly went for in May of 2016, wasn't declaring a price on any of these cards.
I've never purchased a green PMG, so all I've got it past data to reference. I'm sure to procure yours would cost more than what it would to procure it elsewhere.
As it sits now the Eddie Jones has had 7 different people make offers. I'm interested in the sales data of this card, and other Green PMGs because it's interesting to track. Again, there are always multiple Green PMGs listed on eBay, but I'm only able to find 5 sales dating back to January 2016. That could possibly mean a few things:
A) These things aren't as valuable as people are led to believe
B) Sellers have u realistic expectations of prices
C) There aren't as many buyers for these cards in the hobby that people are led to believe
It's funny because there are plenty of people on here saying how expensive these cards are, yet only 7 people have made offers. Why not offer under what you think and flip it? If I believed it was $1500 minimum I would have offered $1200 immediately and hoped for the best. Hell I may have offered $1400 and just taken the cash back/eBay bucks since it seems so easy to sell. I'm not saying that hasn't happened, but we have a 3-4 people in this thread alone saying it's worth that so why haven't more people taken a shot at this card?
KhalDrogo
10-14-2017, 01:50 PM
An unreasonably high BIN acts as a deterrent no matter whether you think that's logical or not.
Wings
10-14-2017, 01:58 PM
Cool.:)!
I was just posting what the last one that sold publicly went for in May of 2016, wasn't declaring a price on any of these cards.
I've never purchased a green PMG, so all I've got it past data to reference. I'm sure to procure yours would cost more than what it would to procure it elsewhere.
As it sits now the Eddie Jones has had 7 different people make offers. I'm interested in the sales data of this card, and other Green PMGs because it's interesting to track. Again, there are always multiple Green PMGs listed on eBay, but I'm only able to find 5 sales dating back to January 2016. That could possibly mean a few things:
A) These things aren't as valuable as people are led to believe
B) Sellers have u realistic expectations of prices
C) There aren't as many buyers for these cards in the hobby that people are led to believe
It's funny because there are plenty of people on here saying how expensive these cards are, yet only 7 people have made offers. Why not offer under what you think and flip it? If I believed it was $1500 minimum I would have offered $1200 immediately and hoped for the best. Hell I may have offered $1400 and just taken the cash back/eBay bucks since it seems so easy to sell. I'm not saying that hasn't happened, but we have a 3-4 people in this thread alone saying it's worth that so why haven't more people taken a shot at this card?
Well because you're making assumptions. His auto decline would have turned down your 1200 offer. He has two offers currently pending.
AbraCalabro
10-14-2017, 03:16 PM
Cool.:)!
I was just posting what the last one that sold publicly went for in May of 2016, wasn't declaring a price on any of these cards.
I've never purchased a green PMG, so all I've got it past data to reference. I'm sure to procure yours would cost more than what it would to procure it elsewhere.
As it sits now the Eddie Jones has had 7 different people make offers. I'm interested in the sales data of this card, and other Green PMGs because it's interesting to track. Again, there are always multiple Green PMGs listed on eBay, but I'm only able to find 5 sales dating back to January 2016. That could possibly mean a few things:
A) These things aren't as valuable as people are led to believe
B) Sellers have u realistic expectations of prices
C) There aren't as many buyers for these cards in the hobby that people are led to believe
It's funny because there are plenty of people on here saying how expensive these cards are, yet only 7 people have made offers. Why not offer under what you think and flip it? If I believed it was $1500 minimum I would have offered $1200 immediately and hoped for the best. Hell I may have offered $1400 and just taken the cash back/eBay bucks since it seems so easy to sell. I'm not saying that hasn't happened, but we have a 3-4 people in this thread alone saying it's worth that so why haven't more people taken a shot at this card?
I think A, B and C are all true. The value on both the Red and Green parallels only really jumped after some wealthy collectors got into bidding wars over them and then after that it was just one guy buying them, very publicly, but seemingly at any cost which is how they gained steam. Other people with a lot of money to spend jumped onto that wagon and we're at this point now.
Outside of set collectors, I don't see any one desperate for opportunities to buy these, especially not at those prices, yet people commonly hop in and say that the cards are worth close to 1k, or over 1k like it's nothing and keep pricing them up and up and up. This touches on B, sellers having unrealistic expectations on prices, well, that's a direct result of constant praise and price hyping when 99% or more of the people price hyping aren't even buying the cards. Again, unless someone is set building, or otherwise desperate for the card(s) they will not sell for those excessive amounts.
C, I don't think there are so many buyers on these, because one, the prices are excessively high and two, the obsessive, almost super natural regard for these cards has people treating them as if they're shards of the Hope Diamond so they're (MY PRECIOUS) not readily available for sale.
An unreasonably high BIN acts as a deterrent no matter whether you think that's logical or not.
b-b-b-but it's a PMG!
Well because you're making assumptions. His auto decline would have turned down your 1200 offer. He has two offers currently pending.
Just curious in case I missed it somewhere, how do you know his auto decline would turn down a 1200 offer and how do you know he has two offers pending? I thought ebay removed the ability to see pending offers. I'm guessing you're not referring to the $800 offer in this thread as being one of them.
Deadshot
10-14-2017, 03:19 PM
I know the Dale Davis went for around $600 when it was listed in the last year. I see the standing offer of $800 in this thread, so I'm interested to see if there's going to be any higher. Good luck OP.
Wings
10-14-2017, 03:23 PM
I think A, B and C are all true. The value on both the Red and Green parallels only really jumped after some wealthy collectors got into bidding wars over them and then after that it was just one guy buying them, very publicly, but seemingly at any cost which is how they gained steam. Other people with a lot of money to spend jumped onto that wagon and we're at this point now.
Outside of set collectors, I don't see any one desperate for opportunities to buy these, especially not at those prices, yet people commonly hop in and say that the cards are worth close to 1k, or over 1k like it's nothing and keep pricing them up and up and up. This touches on B, sellers having unrealistic expectations on prices, well, that's a direct result of constant praise and price hyping when 99% or more of the people price hyping aren't even buying the cards. Again, unless someone is set building, or otherwise desperate for the card(s) they will not sell for those excessive amounts.
C, I don't think there are so many buyers on these, because one, the prices are excessively high and two, the obsessive, almost super natural regard for these cards has people treating them as if they're shards of the Hope Diamond so they're (MY PRECIOUS) not readily available for sale.
b-b-b-but it's a PMG!
Just curious in case I missed it somewhere, how do you know his auto decline would turn down a 1200 offer and how do you know he has two offers pending? I thought ebay removed the ability to see pending offers. I'm guessing you're not referring to the $800 offer in this thread as being one of them.
My four offers were declined. Three of my offers were north of 1k. When you make an offer eBay shows you how many competing offers there currently are. My offers were technically never competing offers since they were auto declined. So I believe that means there are two offers higher than where I was at. Unless I'm missing something.
AbraCalabro
10-14-2017, 03:25 PM
My four offers were declined. Three of them north of 1k. When you make an offer eBay shows you how many competing offers there currently are. My offers were technically never competing offers since they were auto declined. So I believe that means there are two offers higher than where I was at. Unless I'm missing something.
OUCH. :eek:
SPauthentic84
10-14-2017, 03:27 PM
Yeah...OP told me he had an offer of 1700
...I believe it
AbraCalabro
10-14-2017, 03:31 PM
Yeah...OP told me he had an offer of 1700
...I believe it
I would have taken that 1700 and laughed all the way to the bank. This is going to be fun to watch.
Wings
10-14-2017, 03:37 PM
I would have taken that 1700 and laughed all the way to the bank. This is going to be fun to watch.
I probably would have to, I think that offer is probably still pending. It's the type of card where the people who need to see it have already seen it.
GeechQuest
10-14-2017, 04:37 PM
I probably would have to, I think that offer is probably still pending. It's the type of card where the people who need to see it have already seen it.
I guess my values are way off. If it was my card I would have undersold it.
The last thing you said is so true, and I've shot myself in the foot more times than I can count because of this. The majority of the time the first few offers I get on a card are the highest I'll see because people who have been waiting for the card jump in ASAP with strong offers.
Over $1200 for an Eddie Jones seems like a ton of money. I really thought it was just a handful of guys going after these while the rest of us just watched them spending major money on the cards. I was obviously wrong.
Gsw0716
10-16-2017, 06:45 PM
Yeah...OP told me he had an offer of 1700
...I believe it
I'm going to assume that wasn't sarcasm, right?
SPauthentic84
10-16-2017, 06:57 PM
I'm going to assume that wasn't sarcasm, right?
hahah no...I actually believe it
duron
10-16-2017, 11:31 PM
I have a STRONG trade offer on the table, my Eddie Jones Fast Track for his emerald pmg.
Better act fast if you wana overtake me.
COMCMax
10-21-2017, 11:19 AM
Surprised this one still up. At this point anyone who's interested has most likely seen it. You're buddy find anything else interesting in his stash?
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