2017-18 PANINI PRIZM BASKETBALL BOXES + Past Releases

[MJGOAT23]

So it looks like these will come out at $225 a box around the end of November..

Is that consistent with previous years? Just wondering. I haven't followed a new release of anything in 20 years. Second part of this question, when boxes came out in 2003 for Lebron, were prices reasonable and did they only explode in later years, or were expensive at the jump?

[indyguy]

So it looks like these will come out at $225 a box around the end of November..

Is that consistent with previous years? Just wondering. I haven't followed a new release of anything in 20 years. Second part of this question, when boxes came out in 2003 for Lebron, were prices reasonable and did they only explode in later years, or were expensive at the jump?

Quite a bit higher than previous years upon release. Makes it very difficult to bust at that price point.

It is too high for me. I'll try to find retail and do group breaks.

[zigzagz]

I bought a few boxed of prizm in 2014-15 and they were $90 Canadian so it's went up a bit

[celtics]

So it looks like these will come out at $225 a box around the end of November..

Is that consistent with previous years? Just wondering. I haven't followed a new release of anything in 20 years. Second part of this question, when boxes came out in 2003 for Lebron, were prices reasonable and did they only explode in later years, or were expensive at the jump?

I got all of my 03 boxes at SRP but there weren't as many parallels and grading wasn't as big back in 03. Plus the biggest thing is their wasn't group breaks back on 03.

[Jmay]

Price keeps going up
I prebought at 200 a box


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[gomiamigo]

If MSRP is $120, I think it's not yet possible to say in 6 weeks where the prices on these will be.

[byronscott4ever]

Wasn’t there mention that hobby is jumbo only?

[indyguy]

Wasn’t there mention that hobby is jumbo only?

Here are the three types Blowout has on their pre-sell list:

2017/18 Panini Prizm Basketball Hobby 12 Box Case
Configuration: 12 boxes per case. 12 packs per box. 12 cards per pack.

2017/18 Panini Prizm Basketball Retail 20 Box Case
Configuration: 20 boxes per case. 24 packs per box. 4 cards per pack

2017/18 Panini Prizm Basketball Super Value Rack 20 Box Case
Configuration: 20 boxes per case. 12 packs per box. 15 cards per pack.

[chris_ac]

I will say I’m grateful I won’t be chasing any of these rookies with the price of sealed product set to be new all time highs. Baseball had just 2 awesome rooks and product prices there have been atrocious. Bball will have many possibly with this class and group breaks will be tough to access being cheaper than busting. GL to all who chase and may some luck be on your side.

[daviswr7]

Everything this year is allocated and Panini is cutting back production, or so I have been told by multiple distributors.

Actual cost on a 2017-18 Prizm basketball box is around $95 or so.

The problem is that all distributors are being allocated across the board. There will be less to go around this year, and that is speaking lightly.

I am very interested in seeing how this decline in product goes this year, on what is supposed to be a very hot season.

There really should be a thread to just discuss the topic of both the price and overall situation regarding 2017-18 basketball products.

[Carrbeaz]

Everything this year is allocated and Panini is cutting back production, or so I have been told by multiple distributors.

Actual cost on a 2017-18 Prizm basketball box is around $95 or so.

The problem is that all distributors are being allocated across the board. There will be less to go around this year, and that is speaking lightly.

I am very interested in seeing how this decline in product goes this year, on what is supposed to be a very hot season.

There really should be a thread to just discuss the topic of both the price and overall situation regarding 2017-18 basketball products.

Don't believe that lie. Production is up, distributors are holding more and more product back from stores in order to cash in on the market demand.

Why in the world would Panini cut production on BKB when this is one of the best rookie classes we have had in years?

[daviswr7]

Don't believe that lie. Production is up, distributors are holding more and more product back from stores in order to cash in on the market demand.

Why in the world would Panini cut production on BKB when this is one of the best rookie classes we have had in years?

It is quite possible that it is a lie. I imagine you were told the same thing. I was by all 3 distributors I use. Either way you slice it, I, and many others, are being allocated into oblivion.

[chris_ac]

My LCS owner talked about the Panini allocation dilemma just the other day. He thinks like another thread suggested, that Panini is funneling more towards Asia. Are costs that high for memorabilia and autos to cut production? People tell me that shouldn’t be an issue.

[auctionjmm]

Don't believe that lie. Production is up, distributors are holding more and more product back from stores in order to cash in on the market demand.

Why in the world would Panini cut production on BKB when this is one of the best rookie classes we have had in years?

It's not a lie. I know of at least one MAJOR distributor who reported being cut up to 95% on some BKB releases this year. Something weird is going on but it definitely isn't a lie.

[Beavers98]

So it looks like these will come out at $225 a box around the end of November..

Is that consistent with previous years? Just wondering. I haven't followed a new release of anything in 20 years. Second part of this question, when boxes came out in 2003 for Lebron, were prices reasonable and did they only explode in later years, or were expensive at the jump?


Prices are ridiculous... I was a big Toppps Chrome guy, that's all I bought for many years, but haven't jumped on the Prizm hype train. Just not the same to me, but it seems to be paying off for others...

What do you mean by 2003-04 Lebron? Chrome? I bought MANY Topps Chrome boxes from LCS and others for $50-60 a box and even retail for full cost of $72. Wish I would have saved some boxes, but it was fun opening and that's what I did back then.

I have some Prizm cards, the first set and some RC's..heck I looked at it wasn;t that long ago I was getting those type boxes (13-14) for $50, so those forking over $200+ for Prizm, gl to ya, just not for me...

[lepcity]

If the memorabilia and autos are costing them too much, maybe they should produce a little less and focus on making about 10 good products and make more things like revolution where the autos are actually rare and worth something compared to other sets. Wishful thinking though :/

[chris_ac]

If the memorabilia and autos are costing them too much, maybe they should produce a little less and focus on making about 10 good products and make more things like revolution where the autos are actually rare and worth something compared to other sets. Wishful thinking though :/

Yeah I wouldn’t mind if they took a step back and starting issuing products with 2-3 autos per case and 1-2 patch cards per case as well. Maybe a spread out season long auto set like Autographics or even Panini’s own Private Signings instead of new sets every product. Keep it piece meal and on card, and sneak in some current role players instead of forgotten oldies to make the set expansive.

This all hinges on if they really need to cut production and not artificially. Mix in tiered base sets, just a couple real distinctive parallels, and highly designed yet rare inserts so a box break isn’t so bland, and boom, you have a recipe.

[Pathora]

Prizm could be $75 a box with a couple autos in a case and I'd be more willing to buy in than I did with what I purchased for this years stuff.

[inopethflames]

yeah i seem to remember prizm was $60 a box for the first couple years, probably dropped to that, or less, after the 13-14 season. $225 or whatever for prizm is a joke.

are the retail prizm packs fixed at $3 each? unless you just dont get much at all from that, it seems like a lot better deal to get 3+ boxes of that compared to 1 hobby box, but i dont know whats in each or what the odds are, i havent looked.

theres just so little worth opening now, maybe 17-18 prizm retail will be one, but i would also not be taking the time to list 20+ things on ebay from a retail or hobby box of prizm just to come close to breaking even. at this point i might list the 5 best things and just put the rest in a lot or just do nothing with it. the last product i opened more than a couple packs of was 14-15 select and i think i made money on that, barely, but i would never again spend that much time scanning, listing, shipping, etc that many cards.

[afrobandit]

This rookie class isn’t even that good.

[auctionjmm]

For what it's worth, Prizm hobby is only Jumbo now so you can't really compare to when it was 60 or 75 per box. This should be 120 like football. The markup to 225 is due to lack of availability. Distributors are not "holding back " as some have suggested. I've talked to enough key folks to know that it's quite the opposite. Some have oversold and are scrambling just to find more. This is 100% on Panini pulling the rug out on everybody.

[auctionjmm]

This rookie class isn’t even that good.

Yeah no crap. We are 30 games into the season already and have seen nothing to justify the...oh wait.

[Wings]

Since the question was asked, I bought a 12 box Hobby case of 2015-16 for $600 on 8/26/16. And in my opinion 2015-16 was the best year of Prizm. I even liked it more than 2012-13. Regular hobby boxes that year only had one auto.

[Stackfan]

Since the question was asked, I bought a 12 box Hobby case of 2015-16 for $600 on 8/26/16. And in my opinion 2015-16 was the best year of Prizm. I even liked it more than 2012-13. Regular hobby boxes that year only had one auto.

That seems really low.... I don't recall the 15-16 hobby box ever get below 90-100 per box. If you don't mind me asking, was that through blowout of another source?

[eastbayak]

That seems really low.... I don't recall the 15-16 hobby box ever get below 90-100 per box. If you don't mind me asking, was that through blowout of another source?

It was. I remember trying to buy one at the LCS for $55-65 and they had ran out, so I bought a Jumbo for around $90-100 or so. This was a while back so the numbers might be off by a little but it was around that price at one point in time haha

[Yaga]

It was. I remember trying to buy one at the LCS for $55-65 and they had ran out, so I bought a Jumbo for around $90-100 or so. This was a while back so the numbers might be off by a little but it was around that price at one point in time haha

Ya I remember them being cheap too... that was when you could get KAT refractors for like $25. I picked up a KAT for $25 and a Porzingis for $20 on comc.

[Wings]

Yep I bought my Prizm boxes not because I wanted Prizm at the time, but because I wanted a cheap break. I was buying boxes of Prizm and Revolution for about the same price. Less than $50 per box in most cases.

[hermanotarjeta]

Speak with your wallets, guys. If no one is willing to pay $225 a box, prices will come down. Vendors don’t like to sit on a ton of product.

[moosetequila]

I'm buying past singles, and I will see where things settle a bit after the breaks on 2017 product. No way am I buying boxes at this point.

[Pathora]

I'm buying past singles, and I will see where things settle a bit after the breaks on 2017 product. No way am I buying boxes at this point.

Everything non-Prizm has fallen off to SRP levels. Clearly people were waiting to unload on it and these sites were hoping people would get impatient and buy Hoops or Donruss when they were much higher.

[gomiamigo]

Everything this year is allocated and Panini is cutting back production, or so I have been told by multiple distributors.

Actual cost on a 2017-18 Prizm basketball box is around $95 or so.


That's curious, because another poster said his distributor was selling them at $86 per box.

Actual cost can't be 95 if MSRP is 120. I mean, it's very highly unlikely.

At $86 though, that's 40% markup for the retailer which is solid.


If prices are reasonable, I'll buy multiple cases. If not, singles it is.

[auctionjmm]

That's curious, because another poster said his distributor was selling them at $86 per box.

Actual cost can't be 95 if MSRP is 120. I mean, it's very highly unlikely.

At $86 though, that's 40% markup for the retailer which is solid.


If prices are reasonable, I'll buy multiple cases. If not, singles it is.

It is for football though. Cost of Prizm FB is $95. BO is selling at $112 and Panini is selling FOTL boxes at $120. The Panini markups are not usually all that high. Retailers don't make a lot on Panini pre-sells unless it's 2017-18 BKB lol.

[gomiamigo]

Ok, thanks for the correction then.

[mmoran4141]

I lucked out and got 2 cases of the retail. 20 autos instead of 24, i’ll Take it. One per box and there were 20 in the case. Plus the retail parallels always help making my money back

[Eyeraze]

I got two boxes for less than $400 total coming my way.


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[RogerGodahell]

Do they do 1st off the line for Prizm basketball?

[integrity8]

Everything this year is allocated and Panini is cutting back production, or so I have been told by multiple distributors.

Actual cost on a 2017-18 Prizm basketball box is around $95 or so.

The problem is that all distributors are being allocated across the board. There will be less to go around this year, and that is speaking lightly.

I am very interested in seeing how this decline in product goes this year, on what is supposed to be a very hot season.

There really should be a thread to just discuss the topic of both the price and overall situation regarding 2017-18 basketball products.

You're right, panini is cutting back on everyone's hobby. BUT FOR HOBBY ONLY....as I know of quite a few dealers who have bought more than 100 cases of retail. So my guess low production run on hobby but overproduction on retail. Meaning same production or more by last years standard but coming in the retail side.

[RogerGodahell]

Do they do 1st off the line for Prizm basketball?

I don't know that's a good question.

[sluismcfc]

Do they do 1st off the line for Prizm basketball?

"Future NBA releases planned as part of the “1st Off The Line” program include 2016-17 Flawless Basketball, 2017-18 Prizm Basketball, 2017-18 Select Basketball and 2017-18 National Treasures Basketball. NFL products slated for inclusion are 2017 Prizm Football, 2017 Contenders Football and 2017 National Treasures Football. MLBPA products included in the program are 2017 National Treasures Baseball, 2017 Flawless Baseball, 2018 Diamond Kings Baseball and 2018 Immaculate Baseball."

from https://blog.paniniamerica.net/2017/08/22/panini-america-1st-off-the-line-program-to-feature-early-release-exclusive-content/

[Oldschool42]

I heard that Panini is holding back supply on all Basketball so they can spread out supply throughout the year. Even Hoops and Donruss may be tough to find, we'll see.

[wickedliquids]

Buy low, sell high.

There is NO WAY they have cut production back; you cannot "cut" production while producing product for retail. If anything, they are INCREASING product. People want to buy this, therefore, let's produce LESS? Nope. Sorry, don't believe it.

If you can buy it all day long at Walmart or Target, why would they not let hobby folks have it?

Yet another cash grab by distributors.

[eastbayak]

Buy low, sell high.

There is NO WAY they have cut production back; you cannot "cut" production while producing product for retail. If anything, they are INCREASING product. People want to buy this, therefore, let's produce LESS? Nope. Sorry, don't believe it.

If you can buy it all day long at Walmart or Target, why would they not let hobby folks have it?

Yet another cash grab by distributors.

Sound statement. Doesn't make economic sense to reduce supply when demand is so high. It makes more sense to produce A LOT more.

I'm not commenting on the distributor situation. Just saying, there should be as much product as last year, if not more.

[MJGOAT23]

Prices are ridiculous... I was a big Toppps Chrome guy, that's all I bought for many years, but haven't jumped on the Prizm hype train. Just not the same to me, but it seems to be paying off for others...

What do you mean by 2003-04 Lebron? Chrome? I bought MANY Topps Chrome boxes from LCS and others for $50-60 a box and even retail for full cost of $72. Wish I would have saved some boxes, but it was fun opening and that's what I did back then.

I have some Prizm cards, the first set and some RC's..heck I looked at it wasn;t that long ago I was getting those type boxes (13-14) for $50, so those forking over $200+ for Prizm, gl to ya, just not for me...



I just meant 03 releases in general but chrome included of course.


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[gomiamigo]

I think they are definitely increasing production, we've already seen the addition of a new parallel, presumably not-numbered...

[mrchipz]

anyone who is buying this for $225+ a box in mentally ill. its prizm!!
its supposed to be a cheap product. the distributors just are trying to screw us cause prizm rookies are where the money is at.
$2500ish a case are they freaking nuts!!!!
its all always been a cheap $50-$70 box of cards.
just last 14 months ago you could buy 15-16 cases all day for like $600 or less.
its all market manipulation.
just 2 years ago i was busting cases of prizm 13-14 and 14-15 and 15-16 for $600-$800 a case.

now its $225 a box!!!

prizm football this year is like $120 a box and that is high. and youre telling me basketball is worth double just cause its basketball??

lmao anyone who opens this is just asking to lose big time.

and they are not decreasing production]. only a fool would beleive that. like others have said. nice rookie class equals people want it, they probably are making more then ever.

wouldnt be surprised if the distributors got stuck with 1000s of cases trying to rip people off like they did in 15-16 and then forced dealers and breakers to buy 4 cases of prizm at like $500 to get 1 case of nt that year. yes that really happen and im sure lots of you know that. they are gonna get stuck with this and it will drop FAST.

[Pathora]

anyone who is buying this for $225+ a box in mentally ill. its prizm!!
its supposed to be a cheap product. the distributors just are trying to screw us cause prizm rookies are where the money is at.
$2500ish a case are they freaking nuts!!!!
its all always been a cheap $50-$70 box of cards.
just last 14 months ago you could buy 15-16 cases all day for like $600 or less.
its all market manipulation.
just 2 years ago i was busting cases of prizm 13-14 and 14-15 and 15-16 for $600-$800 a case.

now its $225 a box!!!

prizm football this year is like $120 a box and that is high. and youre telling me basketball is worth double just cause its basketball??

lmao anyone who opens this is just asking to lose big time.

and they are not decreasing production]. only a fool would beleive that. like others have said. nice rookie class equals people want it, they probably are making more then ever.

wouldnt be surprised if the distributors got stuck with 1000s of cases trying to rip people off like they did in 15-16 and then forced dealers and breakers to buy 4 cases of prizm at like $500 to get 1 case of nt that year. yes that really happen and im sure lots of you know that. they are gonna get stuck with this and it will drop FAST.

New age rookie cards that people are gripping onto for now, Prizm prices are going nowhere but up and sold out. It would be like saying well the market for Kobe Chrome rookies is going to die down at some point.

Prizm retail is starting to go up and dry out for previous years stuff as well.

[Pathora]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2016-17-Panini-Prizm-Dejounte-Murray-Rookie-Prizm-Spurs/263267651145

Murray silver from last year going for $111 and counting, there's at least 5 maybe 10 guys in this draft with better future prospects than him.

[Wings]

Blowout bumped presale boxes up to $250. Yikes.

[DajuanWagner]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2016-17-Panini-Prizm-Dejounte-Murray-Rookie-Prizm-Spurs/263267651145

Murray silver from last year going for $111 and counting, there's at least 5 maybe 10 guys in this draft with better future prospects than him.




I hope it keeps going up since I found one in my common box.......

[bewareof94]

For anyone thinking they decreased production, that's definitely not the case - they're actually making a whole new "set" with the First Of The Line Prizm boxes which include an additional line of First Off The Line parallels, in addition to what's already in Hobby and Retail:




http://www.blowoutcards.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=10_30&products_id=13974

PRODUCT HIGHLIGHTS
- Introducing the Fast Break edition of Prizm Basketball!
- Look for Fast Break Prizms of base cards, inserts and autographs! All Fast Break Prizms are printed on a special version of Prizm technology and are exclusively available in this SKU!
- On average, find one autograph, eleven Prizms and six inserts per box!
- All autographs in the Fast Break Edition are paralleled off of the Base Set! Look for Fast Break Autographs with parallels as rare as the Black Prizms #’d /1!
- Look for 4 parallels #’d to 175 or less per box, on average!
- Find one Lonzo Ball, Markelle Fultz, Jayson Tatum, or De'Aaron Fox autograph per case!


BOX BREAK
- 1 Autograph
- 11 Prizms
- 6 Inserts


PRODUCT DESCRIPTION

BASE PRIZMS FAST BREAK
Prizm Fast Break adds a new dimension to the Prizm brand! Look for exclusive parallels of the Base Set that can only be found in this SKU!

Base Set Fast Break Prizm versions are as follows:
Blue #’d /175, Red #’d /125, Purple #’d /75, Pink #’d /50, Bronze #’d /20, Neon Green #’d /5, Black #’d /1

BASE SET FAST BREAK AUTOGRAPHS
All autographs in Prizm Fast Break edition are paralleled off of the Base Set! Find autographs of top rookies, established veterans and more! Be on the lookout for Prizm parallels #’d /10 and #’d /1!

[auctionjmm]

For anyone thinking they decreased production, that's definitely not the case - they're actually making a whole new "set" with the First Of The Line Prizm boxes which include an additional line of First Off The Line parallels, in addition to what's already in Hobby and Retail:




http://www.blowoutcards.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=10_30&products_id=13974

PRODUCT HIGHLIGHTS
- Introducing the Fast Break edition of Prizm Basketball!
- Look for Fast Break Prizms of base cards, inserts and autographs! All Fast Break Prizms are printed on a special version of Prizm technology and are exclusively available in this SKU!
- On average, find one autograph, eleven Prizms and six inserts per box!
- All autographs in the Fast Break Edition are paralleled off of the Base Set! Look for Fast Break Autographs with parallels as rare as the Black Prizms #’d /1!
- Look for 4 parallels #’d to 175 or less per box, on average!
- Find one Lonzo Ball, Markelle Fultz, Jayson Tatum, or De'Aaron Fox autograph per case!


BOX BREAK
- 1 Autograph
- 11 Prizms
- 6 Inserts


PRODUCT DESCRIPTION

BASE PRIZMS FAST BREAK
Prizm Fast Break adds a new dimension to the Prizm brand! Look for exclusive parallels of the Base Set that can only be found in this SKU!

Base Set Fast Break Prizm versions are as follows:
Blue #’d /175, Red #’d /125, Purple #’d /75, Pink #’d /50, Bronze #’d /20, Neon Green #’d /5, Black #’d /1

BASE SET FAST BREAK AUTOGRAPHS
All autographs in Prizm Fast Break edition are paralleled off of the Base Set! Find autographs of top rookies, established veterans and more! Be on the lookout for Prizm parallels #’d /10 and #’d /1!

You are generally correct, but you have your SKU's mixed up. The product you reference above has nothing to do with First Off The Line. FOTL is regular Prizm hobby with ONE added parallel. The product description above is a completely different SKU that has nothing to do with FOTL. But you are correct in what you are saying.

I don't think overall production will be down this year, but it will be allocated differently. You'll have Prizm Hobby, Prizm Retail (with multiple SKU's), and Prizm Fast Break. Combined this will probably be a ton of product, but Hobby will be short printed as a result.

[auctionjmm]

anyone who is buying this for $225+ a box in mentally ill. its prizm!!
its supposed to be a cheap product. the distributors just are trying to screw us cause prizm rookies are where the money is at.
$2500ish a case are they freaking nuts!!!!
its all always been a cheap $50-$70 box of cards.
just last 14 months ago you could buy 15-16 cases all day for like $600 or less.
its all market manipulation.
just 2 years ago i was busting cases of prizm 13-14 and 14-15 and 15-16 for $600-$800 a case.

now its $225 a box!!!

prizm football this year is like $120 a box and that is high. and youre telling me basketball is worth double just cause its basketball??

lmao anyone who opens this is just asking to lose big time.

and they are not decreasing production]. only a fool would beleive that. like others have said. nice rookie class equals people want it, they probably are making more then ever.

wouldnt be surprised if the distributors got stuck with 1000s of cases trying to rip people off like they did in 15-16 and then forced dealers and breakers to buy 4 cases of prizm at like $500 to get 1 case of nt that year. yes that really happen and im sure lots of you know that. they are gonna get stuck with this and it will drop FAST.

The distributors are not at fault THIS time. Allocations are genuinely low. The question is if these other SKU's are simply replacing Hobby. I think Prizm Fast Break is responsible for the lack of Hobby available. Overall production may not be down, but traditional hobby boxes could very well be the shortest printed they've ever been.

[GeechQuest]

The distributors are not at fault THIS time. Allocations are genuinely low. The question is if these other SKU's are simply replacing Hobby. I think Prizm Fast Break is responsible for the lack of Hobby available. Overall production may not be down, but traditional hobby boxes could very well be the shortest printed they've ever been.

I don't think people realize that last year Prizm was highly allocated and production was heavily cut back from 15/16 Prizm. I honestly think there may have been around 1200 hobby cases of Prizm last year.


15/16 - 400 card checklist with a total of 300,700 #'d parallels (hobby)
16/17 - 300 card checklist with a total of 105,850 #'d parallels (hobby)

Both boxes in Jumbo size offer 22 Parallels.
15/16 states 6 #'d parallels per jumbo (3 per hobby), while 16/17 doesn't state a run but it seemed to be 9-12 prizm parallels per case.

15/16 had roughly 1 Gold per case.
16/17 had 3-4 Golds per case.

Last year Panini REALLY pushed Prizm retail.

15/16 - 3 retail only parallels
16/17 - 4 retail only parallels (2 of which were #'d to 25).

I suspect the same is happening this year. In fact, Prizm retail was offered as a presale before hobby. I think most of this is flowing to retail.

[dasiegel]

Most people don't know how it works. Funnily enough these are the people who usually say you can't make money off singles or flipping doesn't work or think there are always scams. There are just legit short allocations coming down on everyone I know... except breakers. That's where the conspiracy loophole is still valid. It is kind of a mystery that the manufacturers claim to want to take care of Brick and Mortar but they either have to buy like everything all year through or get from distributors and be in the same position as the people who know what is going on here on the forum.

In any event. My LCS can only get me 2-3 boxes of Prizm hobby because he only gets a case. I cannot get anything on my own without paying "normal" prices. So this stuff is almost guaranteed to go up to the moon.

[Oldschool42]

17-18 Prizm is driving me crazy. Let’s get this straight: there will be Prizm hobby, retail, and blasters. Now I thought Fast break was just another parallel but if I read it right it’s another set entirely! Wtf. So far Prizm, Fastbreak Prizm, and Optic as chrome releases. Fastbreak is like Mosaic, a spin-off of Prizm. I know Mosaic was made to coverup Replay. So will Fastbreak cards not carry the cache of “regular” Prizm?
What about the FastBreak autos: do they have auto parallels just like the base? And I thought I was overwhelmed with last years Prizm release!

[Pathora]

Fastbreak is a whole different set, the only thing it might have that's the same as standard prizm hobby/retail are base cards. The silver prizms in this are fast break style whatever that means so it will have a fraction of the value.

I think Fastbreak was solely made for distributors to sell since there isn't enough standard Prizm Hobby to go around. I'd much rather buy retail boxes for around 100 each or blasters for 25 each than buy this stuff.

[phil]

The silver prizms in this are fast break style


Unless I missed something I don't think that is clear yet. The way I read the sell sheet it indicates 11 Prizms per box total, with 4 of those being serial-numbered Fast Breaks. It does not say 11 Fast Break Prizms per box.

The other 7 presumably unnumbered Prizms per box are not referenced at all and may be normal Silvers.

[blackbears86]

either way you slice it, Panini is killing the golden goose here and I wonder if collectors will get prizm burnout and get tired of the whole prizm line.....






I just changed my mind----basketball collectors (myself included) are crazy... there will probably never be enough prizm.

[gomiamigo]

I still maintain Panini will flood the market with Prizm to maximize profits - they'd be idiots not too -- and prices will trend down from release day as several others have also noted.

[GeechQuest]

I still maintain Panini will flood the market with Prizm to maximize profits - they'd be idiots not too -- and prices will trend down from release day as several others have also noted.

They didn't do it last year (Hobby wise).

They won't do it this year, unless you consider Prizm Fast Break "flooding". I see it as a different product all together.