CFB: Dan Mullen to Florida, Greg Schiano to the Vols

[TWard]

Wow.

I saw the Mullen hire coming but i am really surprised about Schiano. I would’ve thought the Vols woulda gone after Mike Norvell, the current Memphis HC (thank god they didnt because i do not wanna dislike Norvell).

Just thought it was interesting. Any other SEC fans in here? Haha

[dfr52]

Very surprised to see the Schiano hire.

[atoaz12]

Schiano is very Butch Jones-like

And don't forget, he was tied in with that Penn State garbage.
Apparently he knew of the issues with Sandusky and did/said nothing

[hairysasquatch]

Schiano is very Butch Jones-like

And don't forget, he was tied in with that Penn State garage.
Apparently he knew of the issues with Sandusky and did/said nothing

I'm surprised that in light of this he is getting an HC job. Then again, it is Tennessee.

[TWard]

I'm surprised that in light of this he is getting an HC job. Then again, it is Tennessee.


Exactly.

[packman80]

I'm surprised that in light of this he is getting an HC job. Then again, it is Tennessee.

Reports lots of protest on campus and that politicans are trying to get school to resind the offer.

[Cavaliercards]

Reports lots of protest on campus and that politicans are trying to get school to resind the offer.

Throwing a fit because they can’t get a better coach is hilarious

[rngrdanny22]

As a UGA fan, this is awesome.

[hofcollector2]

The bigger Hire is Chip Kelly to Ucla

[LRV]

I would’ve thought the Vols woulda gone after Mike Norvell, the current Memphis HC (thank god they didnt because i do not wanna dislike Norvell).

Looks like he is a candidate along with Clemson DC Brent Venables for the Arkansas job..

RTR - Auburn still sucks!

[KhalDrogo]

Reports lots of protest on campus and that politicans are trying to get school to resind the offer.
Who do UT fans think they can land? That program has been a dumpster fire for 20 years. The only saving grace for them is that they play in the East.

[IndyKMB]

Neither hire is overly impressive to me, although of the two the Florida hire makes a lot of sense.

I'm just glad Chip Kelly went out west.

[Cervantes]

I think the Florida hire is what the program needed. He's someone who runs the football program; he's not just an x's and o's guy. I especially like the immediate endorsements from former players, like Tebow and I loved what Dallas Baker said.

Anyone else remember Dallas Baker, the touchdown maker?

:D

[Siberian13]

I think the Florida hire is what the program needed. He's someone who runs the football program; he's not just an x's and o's guy. I especially like the immediate endorsements from former players, like Tebow and I loved what Dallas Baker said.

Anyone else remember Dallas Baker, the touchdown maker?

:D

I remember Aaron Hernandez and Riley Cooper mainly, after Tebow of course

[asujbl]

Schiano is a fantastic college coach

I don’t know enough about Penn State to comment on that. Obviously an issue it appears.

[rman112]

Schiano is a fantastic college coach

I don’t know enough about Penn State to comment on that. Obviously an issue it appears.

Yeah, I'm not really understanding the hate for Schiano. Is it coming from his Bucs time? He turned Rutgers around, and got them to a very good, but not great, level. Put a bunch of players in the pros.

[chris43]

I can't stand UT but I'm shocked that they hired a POS like this! How can this SOB POS even find a job after the Penn State scandal? This is truly sickening!

[asujbl]

Yeah, I'm not really understanding the hate for Schiano. Is it coming from his Bucs time? He turned Rutgers around, and got them to a very good, but not great, level. Put a bunch of players in the pros.

It’s Sandusky related. I need to read more. He knew something it appears.

Because I’d hire him in a second to be my college coach in a vacuum

[huskerman47]

Rescinded offer to schiano

[rman112]

It’s Sandusky related. I need to read more. He knew something it appears.

Because I’d hire him in a second to be my college coach in a vacuum

How much of it, though? The PSU stuff is absolutely inexcusable if he knew, but I feel like a lot of it is just thinking he's not a quality coach.

[Nyfancam01]

now he will NOT be coaching... Nice move!

[rngrdanny22]

Rescinded offer to schiano

Wow! I guess the fans will get what they want?

[HBMC]

Looks like he is a candidate along with Clemson DC Brent Venables for the Arkansas job..


If Brent Venables is the new HC of Arkansas I might need a cigarette afterwards.

I liked Bielema enough, but he never seemed to have enough cache to make the demands he did.

[Cavaliercards]

How much of it, though? The PSU stuff is absolutely inexcusable if he knew, but I feel like a lot of it is just thinking he's not a quality coach.

The earliest complaints from Vols on message boards and twitter was him as a coach, it then went into the PSU where there was basically no evidence that he knew.

Vols hated the hire and grasped straws.

[Siberian13]

Hahaha Tennessee

[hairysasquatch]

How much of it, though? The PSU stuff is absolutely inexcusable if he knew, but I feel like a lot of it is just thinking he's not a quality coach.

I guess it's excusable enough for Urbz and tOSU where he has been DC for awhile.

[mhcook]

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[asujbl]

I guess it's excusable enough for Urbz and tOSU where he has been DC for awhile.

2016 is awhile?

[pgisback]

Geez, the mob got this one on Schiano. There's not even a shred of evidence that Schiano knew anything. Just a he said, he once said, but this other guy said, that Schiano might have known something. Crazy.

[TWard]

Man, i hope the Vols don’t get Mike Norvell. I don’t care if he goes to Miss State, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Nebraska or Arizona State, just not UT!

[lambeauleap87]

Schiano is about to collect a real big check from Tennessee because of a mob based on hearsay.

[HP7163]

Schiano is about to collect a real big check from Tennessee because of a mob based on hearsay.

Doubtful. I'm sure there is a clause for limited time there

[Cavaliercards]

Doubtful. I'm sure there is a clause for limited time there

IF he signed a deal I doubt it. A contract is a contract, if there was limited time teams would dump coaches quicker.

If he is smart he banks $5 million and stays put.

[pgisback]

Schiano is about to collect a real big check from Tennessee because of a mob based on hearsay.

I wonder how that will play out. Because before he was just a guy who was kind of connected to the Penn St thing, now he will forever be known as the guy who was given a job at one of the biggest football schools in the country but had the job taken away because of it. I'm sure he'll get some buyout. Because that's terrible for him.

[HP7163]

IF he signed a deal I doubt it. A contract is a contract, if there was limited time teams would dump coaches quicker.

If he is smart he banks $5 million and stays put.

I would think there is something in terms of lack of days before 100 effective but I'm guessing obv

I don't doubt he's going to walk away with something thought so I agree with u

[TWard]

This is truth right here:

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[mr10pin]

I guess it's excusable enough for Urbz and tOSU where he has been DC for awhile.

In true fashion for the OSUMichigan rivalry I wanted to respond with something about Michigan covering up for Brandon Gibbons' sexual assault. Unfortunately, as I was typing it out Taylor Lewan threatened to come physically assault me if I told anyone. I wonder if the athletic department in Ann Arbor will cover this one up, too.

Also, you can save any shots about tattoos and gold pants. They were wrong, got exposed, tressell lied and OSU was punished. Trading trinkets isn't quite the same as covering up sexual assault.

[JCC6603]

This is 100% on the UT leadership. If there is a 1% chance he knew, how can he be the face of your program? He should have never been considered let alone offered the job. Someone will lose their job over this

[hairysasquatch]

In true fashion for the OSUMichigan rivalry I wanted to respond with something about Michigan covering up for Brandon Gibbons' sexual assault. Unfortunately, as I was typing it out Taylor Lewan threatened to come physically assault me if I told anyone. I wonder if the athletic department in Ann Arbor will cover this one up, too.

Also, you can save any shots about tattoos and gold pants. They were wrong, got exposed, tressell lied and OSU was punished. Trading trinkets isn't quite the same as covering up sexual assault.

I don't really see your point. It may be the case that OSU did their homework, determined Schiano was OK, and people are right that Tennessee overreacted because they think he is a crappy coach. But if they didn't, and the nature of Schiano's involvement in the Sandusky scandal is significant, then what? Did he resign from OSU already? Are people at OSU going to welcome him back with open arms after this sh*tstorm?

[HP7163]

This is 100% on the UT leadership. If there is a 1% chance he knew, how can he be the face of your program? He should have never been considered let alone offered the job. Someone will lose their job over this

Agreed .. it's a "rumor" but that's the WORST rumor imaginable and with smoke there's fire since it spanned 30 years with MULTIPLE people knowing

[hairysasquatch]

"Court documents released in the summer of 2015 included a deposition from former Penn State coach Mike McQueary, who indicated former Penn State assistant Tom Bradley said Schiano went to him in the early 1990s "white as a ghost and said he just saw Jerry doing something to a boy in the shower."

OK, so where does this get us with Bradley and Schiano? Is this to be dismissed as hearsay? I'm asking.

I think what this whole episode reveals more than anything else is that emotions are still (justly) raw over the horror show in State College during the Sandusky era.

[Cavaliercards]

"Court documents released in the summer of 2015 included a deposition from former Penn State coach Mike McQueary, who indicated former Penn State assistant Tom Bradley said Schiano went to him in the early 1990s "white as a ghost and said he just saw Jerry doing something to a boy in the shower."

OK, so where does this get us with Bradley and Schiano? Is this to be dismissed as hearsay? I'm asking.

I think what this whole episode reveals more than anything else is that emotions are still (justly) raw over the horror show in State College during the Sandusky era.

Bradley and Schiano both said never happened.

The guy who was lead reporter and dug up a lot of stuff that lawyers used has even said Schiano got railroaded by fans wanting a better coach.

AG of Pennsylvania brought 0 charges and didn't even mention Schiano as a knowing party.

[pgisback]

This is 100% on the UT leadership. If there is a 1% chance he knew, how can he be the face of your program? He should have never been considered let alone offered the job. Someone will lose their job over this

There’s no reason he shouldn’t be hired as a coach. He’s done nothing wrong.

[HP7163]

Bradley and Schiano both said never happened.

The guy who was lead reporter and dug up a lot of stuff that lawyers used has even said Schiano got railroaded by fans wanting a better coach.

AG of Pennsylvania brought 0 charges and didn't even mention Schiano as a knowing party.

Sorry but over 30 years and a slap on the wrist for the horror that football program let happen is enough for me to rationally ask HOW does Penn state or anyone connected have a program ?!?? It's insane

The people even prosecuting penn state let people off like Paterno who though died was a bad man . You can't disagree

[Cavaliercards]

Sorry but over 30 years and a slap on the wrist for the horror that football program let happen is enough for me to rationally ask HOW does Penn state or anyone connected have a program ?!?? It's insane

The people even prosecuting penn state let people off like Paterno who though died was a bad man . You can't disagree

I am not a Penn State defender I actually rip them, but when the Schiano has to go started there was not a mention of PSU until Clay Travis brought it up and then full steam ahead.

[HP7163]

I am not a Penn State defender I actually rip them, but when the Schiano has to go started there was not a mention of PSU until Clay Travis brought it up and then full steam ahead.

I'm not coming at you if it appears that way but that whole horrible situation makes me mad... think about it.. over 30 years of people knowing .

I look at it like this.. we're men.. in college or even HS most of us all went to a party and got drunk then slept with a girl we didn't care for .. even then rumors spread so like I said if there's smoke, there's fire .

Yes I agree the internet media is a killer with zero credibility but this one kinda irks me since it was exposed to a harsh rumor that many knew of.. just sad When it's obvious PEOPLE KNEW ..

And because Joe Pa brought so much money to happy valley people didn't wanna care .. disgraceful

[pgisback]

Schiano rightfully looking for compensation...

https://www.seccountry.com/tennessee/report-greg-schiano-seeking-buyout-tennessee-deal-falls

[Cavaliercards]

Schiano rightfully looking for compensation...

https://www.seccountry.com/tennessee/report-greg-schiano-seeking-buyout-tennessee-deal-falls

Pay him half of the contract

[HP7163]

Pay him half of the contract

Forget that ... he knows he's playing with house money .. 1/4 at most

[Cavaliercards]

Forget that ... he knows he's playing with house money .. 1/4 at most

If there is a signed deal, which has been alleged, he could get the full deal. Give him half and let Haslam pay it as he pushed for Schiano.

[HP7163]

If there is a signed deal, which has been alleged, he could get the full deal. Give him half and let Haslam pay it as he pushed for Schiano.

I don't disagree .. they knew the details more than us and signed him but wow .. disaster

[mfw13]

To me the scary part is the fact that nobody in Tennessee is protesting over the fact the the football coach is the highest paid public employee in the state (which for the record is the case in quite a few states), especially since many public university systems are suffering from large budget cuts on the academic side.

[HP7163]

To me the scary part is the fact that nobody in Tennessee is protesting over the fact the the football coach is the highest paid public employee in the state (which for the record is the case in quite a few states), especially since many public university systems are suffering from large budget cuts on the academic side.

Preaching to the choir buddy...

[Cavaliercards]

To me the scary part is the fact that nobody in Tennessee is protesting over the fact the the football coach is the highest paid public employee in the state (which for the record is the case in quite a few states), especially since many public university systems are suffering from large budget cuts on the academic side.

Many of the schools that have it as highest paid employee usually has the coach paid $245,000 like Nick Saban is paid, with the Athletic Foundation of the school that has direct donations paying most of the other $10 million (for example on this one)

The amount of money a lot of these programs bring in and publicity to the school it makes sense why the football coaches make what they do.

Very rarely in Power 5 Schools do the schools themselves pay the bulk of the salaries. The rest is direct donations that would not be going to the academics regardless.

[HP7163]

Many of the schools that have it as highest paid employee usually has the coach paid $245,000 like Nick Saban is paid, with the Athletic Foundation of the school that has direct donations paying most of the other $10 million (for example on this one)

The amount of money a lot of these programs bring in and publicity to the school it makes sense why the football coaches make what they do.

Very rarely in Power 5 Schools do the schools themselves pay the bulk of the salaries. The rest is direct donations that would not be going to the academics regardless.

To add... I.E. Texas where Tom hicks is on the board ... and is only 1 of several powerful men..

[Cervantes]

What's amazing to me is that Tennessee fans think they somehow deserve a top-tier coach, and Schiano wasn't good enough for them.

Hello, you're Tennessee.

[HP7163]

What's amazing to me is that Tennessee fans think they somehow deserve a top-tier coach, and Schiano wasn't good enough for them.

Hello, you're Tennessee.

Dude ... anyone connected to penn state is no bueno ... :rolleyes:

[Cavaliercards]

What's amazing to me is that Tennessee fans think they somehow deserve a top-tier coach, and Schiano wasn't good enough for them.

Hello, you're Tennessee.

The fact they swore Gruden was coming was enough to make me :doh::doh:

[JCC6603]

What's amazing to me is that Tennessee fans think they somehow deserve a top-tier coach, and Schiano wasn't good enough for them.

Hello, you're Tennessee.

This has nothing to do with football......he might be the best football coach available but that's not the point.

[JCC6603]

There’s no reason he shouldn’t be hired as a coach. He’s done nothing wrong.

There are 100 other coaches that we don't have to even have this conversation about, why pick the one that will have an uphill battle from day 1? Perception is reality whether we like it or not.

[cadillac540]

what's amazing to me is that tennessee fans think they somehow deserve a top-tier coach, and schiano wasn't good enough for them.

Hello, you're tennessee.

this right here.

[atoaz12]

Many of the schools that have it as highest paid employee usually has the coach paid $245,000 like Nick Saban is paid, with the Athletic Foundation of the school that has direct donations paying most of the other $10 million (for example on this one)

The amount of money a lot of these programs bring in and publicity to the school it makes sense why the football coaches make what they do.

Very rarely in Power 5 Schools do the schools themselves pay the bulk of the salaries. The rest is direct donations that would not be going to the academics regardless.

To add... I.E. Texas where Tom hicks is on the board ... and is only 1 of several powerful men..

Tennessee football also brought in over $126 million in 2016

[Mister2Bits]

What's amazing to me is that Tennessee fans think they somehow deserve a top-tier coach, and Schiano wasn't good enough for them.

Hello, you're Tennessee.

Tennessee is a storied program, with a rich history and massive fan base. They absolutely deserve a a top-tier coach.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I feel pretty bad for Tennessee fans right now. The University has let them down in just about every way possible.

Whoever thought Greg Schiano was the man for the job should re-evaluate their career. The lack of self awareness for Tenn brass right now is shocking.

[Mister2Bits]

As for Dan Mullen to the Gators - I'm absolutely thrilled. This is a perfect fit for the program. Better than Kelly and Frost.

Welcome back to Gainesville Coach Mullen!

[ClipsandVols]

This is truth right here:

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95% of the people upset are using it as an excuse. The other 5% are SJW.

[Scottish Punk]

Amen to the fans of Tennessee, they deserve better that Schaino. The Penn State cover up is enough. He also was pretty much regarded as a-hole at Rutgers. This trend continued in Tampa Bay. I remember the most of the team hated him and wanted him out. I also remember the bucs running some dirty plays while he was there, particularly the one with Eli during an end of game kneel down. Maybe he has turned the corner and become a better coach, I haven't heard of any indiscretions while at Ohio State. If I were a fan of Tennessee, I would rather take a chance on somebody else than get a damaged retread.

[hairysasquatch]

Whoever thought Greg Schiano was the man for the job should re-evaluate their career. The lack of self awareness for Tenn brass right now is shocking.

But tOSU gets a pass because he's only a coordinator?

[Mister2Bits]

But tOSU gets a pass because he's only a coordinator?

There is a big difference between coordinator and coach.

Even without the Sandusky/Penn State allegations, it was a bad hire. After Butch Jones and Derek Dooley, they needed something. Schiano is/was not that something.

Tenn AD will be next, especially if Schiano expects compensation for this debacle. Which he will get.

[tnvolfan16]

quite frankly, I think anyone would think their team deserves a top tier coach, If you do not, you are stupid like a few posters on this topic. if you do not live in the Knoxville area or pull for Tennessee, all you know is what you read from other people who are not around the situation. I will just use this as an example, it would be easy to say that Memphis state basketball should be happy they have a coach like tubby smith who has won a national championship since they are not really all that important in the realm of college basketball. but I know even their podunct fans think they should have a good coach because of their semi-successful past (and by past I mean about a four year stretch) and they will be the first to tell you that its not as simple as what a coaches record has been to gauge success. I don't want schiano, but before it even gets to the penn state stuff, I just don't think he would be a good hire coming off butch jones.

[pgisback]

quite frankly, I think anyone would think their team deserves a top tier coach, If you do not, you are stupid like a few posters on this topic. if you do not live in the Knoxville area or pull for Tennessee, all you know is what you read from other people who are not around the situation. I will just use this as an example, it would be easy to say that Memphis state basketball should be happy they have a coach like tubby smith who has won a national championship since they are not really all that important in the realm of college basketball. but I know even their podunct fans think they should have a good coach because of their semi-successful past (and by past I mean about a four year stretch) and they will be the first to tell you that its not as simple as what a coaches record has been to gauge success. I don't want schiano, but before it even gets to the penn state stuff, I just don't think he would be a good hire coming off butch jones.

Unfortunately, no top tier coach is going to want to coach at Tennessee after this stunt they pulled on Schiano. Bad look for the fans and the entire organization.

[pgisback]

This might explain the Schiano hire. AD at Tennessee... never hire friends or family

"I have followed Coach Schiano’s accomplishments throughout his career and have been fortunate to get to know him and his family over the last several years."

[Mister2Bits]

Unfortunately, no top tier coach is going to want to coach at Tennessee after this stunt they pulled on Schiano. Bad look for the fans and the entire organization.

While I agree it was a bad look and the athletes and fans have quite a bit to be pissed about, but Tennessee is still a top job.

Kiffin railroaded the school when he bolted for USC. Derek Dooley drove the team into mediocrity. Butch Jones championed life but not much else. And now the school just hired/fired? a very controversial coach.

If I'm a coach out there and looking for a gig, I have to know that I can do better than Kiffin/Dooley/Jones/Schiano. Tennessee just went winless in the SEC for the first time. I literally could not do any worse. If I manage to be a little bit better I could have a chance at reviving a storied program, be a hero and coach a team in this stadium...

http://www.sportsradiownml.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/605/2015/09/facilities-neyland.png

Or my name could be added to the list above. :doh:

[tnvolfan16]

I still cannot understand why people are dogging us because we are tired of getting second rate coaches shoved down our throat and then being told they were quality candidates. and then our stupid AD comes out and says he has been family friends for years with schiano. I mean, i know it is funny to rag on us, but just like I tell alabama fans, it is all going good right now, but your fanbase could be in this same boat when saban leaves. you think our fans are crazy, we have never poisoned trees because we lost a game

[JCC6603]

95% of the people upset are using it as an excuse. The other 5% are SJW.

Wrong.....this isn't about football. I'm a Tennessee fan, and it's one thing to stink, it's another thing to not know for sure deep down that you can pull for your team. Just being associated with the Penn State stuff, whether or not he knew, should disqualify him for a position like this. Trot him out at the press conference, and what will the first question be? It won't be about Tennessee football. And it's not Schiano's fault, it's poor leadership from Tennessee, they all need to go today before we hire our next coach, but that won't happen.

[ClipsandVols]

Wrong.....this isn't about football. I'm a Tennessee fan, and it's one thing to stink, it's another thing to not know for sure deep down that you can pull for your team. Just being associated with the Penn State stuff, whether or not he knew, should disqualify him for a position like this. Trot him out at the press conference, and what will the first question be? It won't be about Tennessee football. And it's not Schiano's fault, it's poor leadership from Tennessee, they all need to go today before we hire our next coach, but that won't happen.Also a TN fan (clearly). I guess that puts you in the 5% SJW category then?

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[Scottish Punk]

Also a TN fan (clearly). I guess that puts you in the 5% SJW category then?

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What the hell does SJW stand for? I get so lost on these new hip twitter acronyms.

Now get off my lawn!!!

[pgisback]

Wrong.....this isn't about football. I'm a Tennessee fan, and it's one thing to stink, it's another thing to not know for sure deep down that you can pull for your team. Just being associated with the Penn State stuff, whether or not he knew, should disqualify him for a position like this. Trot him out at the press conference, and what will the first question be? It won't be about Tennessee football. And it's not Schiano's fault, it's poor leadership from Tennessee, they all need to go today before we hire our next coach, but that won't happen.

So the guy can't get a job because someone else did something wrong? The previous poster is right... that's SJW 101.

[pgisback]

What the hell does SJW stand for? I get so lost on these new hip twitter acronyms.

Now get off my lawn!!!

Social justice warrior

"A person who causes problems for normal people through protest and constant nagging because they cant accept that life ins't fair"

[ClipsandVols]

What the hell does SJW stand for? I get so lost on these new hip twitter acronyms.

Now get off my lawn!!!Lol social justice warrior

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[JCC6603]

So the guy can't get a job because someone else did something wrong? The previous poster is right... that's SJW 101.

Sorry, if he has a 1% chance of being involved I don't want him to be the coach. Call me what you want but that's how I feel. I'd rather lose than do that. May be unfair to him but why go down that road?

[pgisback]

Sorry, if he has a 1% chance of being involved I don't want him to be the coach. Call me what you want but that's how I feel. I'd rather lose than do that. May be unfair to him but why go down that road?

There is no road to go down. The investigation is over and investigators didn't even feel Schiano was worth talking to because of how he had absolutely nothing to do with another mans actions. Penalizing him for your own self righteousness is ridiculous.

[NoleinJax]

Looks like Jimbo may be leaving FSU. I can't say I'd be terribly disappointed.

[JCC6603]

There is no road to go down. The investigation is over and investigators didn't even feel Schiano was worth talking to because of how he had absolutely nothing to do with another mans actions. Penalizing him for your own self righteousness is ridiculous.

Again, call me what you want. There are 100 other coaches that could be hired that have no background issues. There is sworn testimony that he knew, I don't know and you don't know if he did or not. The testimony came out in 2016 in a civil suit after the criminal investigations ended. I don't want anything to do with it whether he knew or not, and that's probably unfair to him.

[Mister2Bits]

Looks like Jimbo may be leaving FSU. I can't say I'd be terribly disappointed.

Yeah - winning a national title must really suck.

[sak0309]

Again, call me what you want. There are 100 other coaches that could be hired that have no background issues. There is sworn testimony that he knew, I don't know and you don't know if he did or not. The testimony came out in 2016 in a civil suit after the criminal investigations ended. I don't want anything to do with it whether he knew or not, and that's probably unfair to him.I agree 100%. Why would any university want to take on the risk of something blowing up down the road. Let him go coach in the pros.

[HP7163]

Yeah - winning a national title must really suck.

And don't forget having your pick of the best athletes in Florida ... terrible job to have ha :coffee:

[p.thomaston]

I've been to Neyland a few times to watch the Vols face off with Auburn, it's truly a beautiful place. Tennessee has a great history minus recent HC issues. I really hope the program and the fans get a top tier coach to help turn things around. It's a really tough position to not know who that is, so I think in fear of losing recruits and letting rumors swirl the AD rushed the decision. Just take a deep breath, pull it together, the wins will follow down the road.

[TWard]

As a Bama fan, i find this all pretty funny.

[p.thomaston]

As a Bama fan, i find this all pretty funny.

After the way they played Saturday I’d imagine you need a good laugh. :D

Love you Tyler. :o

[TWard]

After the way they played Saturday I’d imagine you need a good laugh. :D



Love you Tyler. :o


Ugh, I know right. It’s been a bad 3 days haha... Bama lost, Colts choked (again) and the Grizzlies just fired their HC. So things could be better. Oh well, it is what it is.

Usually when i get a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach, it turns out being right. It happened with both Ole Miss years, Texas A&M with Manziel, the first of the 2 LSU games in the BCS era, the Clemson title game last year and Auburn this year. It just wasn’t meant to be. Auburn was the better team and they wanted it more, i have no problem admitting that.... but it still sucks haha.

Love you too buddy. :)

[HP7163]

I've been to Neyland a few times to watch the Vols face off with Auburn, it's truly a beautiful place. Tennessee has a great history minus recent HC issues. I really hope the program and the fans get a top tier coach to help turn things around. It's a really tough position to not know who that is, so I think in fear of losing recruits and letting rumors swirl the AD rushed the decision. Just take a deep breath, pull it together, the wins will follow down the road.

I've always wondered how the facilities were at Tennessee? Alabama has been putting tons of $$$ into the program and facilities so it is an easy decision.. Ive also heard that Tennessee brass is disconnected to the reality that they're not Alabama.. they're not even Florida state when it comes to jobs so getting some huge name isn't easy when you can't even beat Vandy, Kentucky or Mizzou.. Tennessee fans are almost like Florida in the realm they don't realize how far they are from programs like Bama or heck even Georgia now

[HP7163]

Has to be fake news .. Tennessee reaching out to Jason Witten ? Ha..

[TWard]

I've always wondered how the facilities were at Tennessee? Alabama has been putting tons of $$$ into the program and facilities so it is an easy decision.. Ive also heard that Tennessee brass is disconnected to the reality that they're not Alabama.. they're not even Florida state when it comes to jobs so getting some huge name isn't easy when you can't even beat Vandy, Kentucky or Mizzou.. Tennessee fans are almost like Florida in the realm they don't realize how far they are from programs like Bama or heck even Georgia now


The sad part about it is the talent is there. They’ve had many talented players for years now and have had solid recruiting classes but the coaching just ain’t there.

Kirk Herbstreit said it best several weeks ago on Gameday that the Vols have the pieces but instead of playing as a cohesive unit and playing for one another, they’re just playing for themselves. It’s basically the “all me” mentality.

If they can get a good coach that can instill a cohesiveness and unselfishness into his players, then they can go places. But until then, they won’t.

As someone who lives in Tennessee, it seems most of the Vols fans think that someone like Jon Gruden, Dabo Swinney, Urban Meyer, Jim Harbaugh, Bob Stoops or someone of that magnitude is gonna come walking through that door. Well, they’re not. Knoxville isn’t an ideal situation right now. They’re not gonna get a superstar coach, they may not even get a star coach. They’re gonna have to settle for someone like Schiano, Larry Fedora, Dino Babers, Dana Holgorsen, Bronco Mendenhall or Bobby Petrino (not saying any of those last 5 would go there) for the vacancy... aka someone that isn’t a superstar but isn’t necessarily bad either. Just somewhere in the middle.

[HP7163]

The sad part about it is the talent is there. They’ve had many talented players for years now and have had solid recruiting classes but the coaching just ain’t there.

Kirk Herbstreit said it best several weeks ago on Gameday that the Vols have the pieces but instead of playing as a cohesive unit and playing for one another, they’re just playing for themselves. It’s basically the “all me” mentality.

If they can get a good coach that can instill a cohesiveness and unselfishness into his players, then they can go places. But until then, they won’t.

As someone who lives in Tennessee, it seems most of the Vols fans think that someone like Jon Gruden, Dabo Swinney, Urban Meyer, Jim Harbaugh, Bob Stoops or someone of that magnitude is gonna come walking through that door. Well, they’re not. Knoxville isn’t an ideal situation right now. They’re not gonna get a superstar coach, they may not even get a star coach. They’re gonna have to settle for someone like Schiano, Larry Fedora, Dino Babers, Dana Holgorsen, Bronco Mendenhall or Bobby Petrino (not saying any of those last 5 would go there) for the vacancy... aka someone that isn’t a superstar but isn’t necessarily bad either. Just somewhere in the middle.

Yes, the talent I had heard has been there like last season all the pre season hype was about the potential big time offense for Tennessee then it was up/down all year. I don't dislike Tennessee but yes they're prob gonna have to go grab someone like Petrino who I think would be perfect.. he knows the region and though comes off shady, can recruit well.

[Cavaliercards]

The sad part about it is the talent is there. They’ve had many talented players for years now and have had solid recruiting classes but the coaching just ain’t there.

Kirk Herbstreit said it best several weeks ago on Gameday that the Vols have the pieces but instead of playing as a cohesive unit and playing for one another, they’re just playing for themselves. It’s basically the “all me” mentality.

If they can get a good coach that can instill a cohesiveness and unselfishness into his players, then they can go places. But until then, they won’t.

As someone who lives in Tennessee, it seems most of the Vols fans think that someone like Jon Gruden, Dabo Swinney, Urban Meyer, Jim Harbaugh, Bob Stoops or someone of that magnitude is gonna come walking through that door. Well, they’re not. Knoxville isn’t an ideal situation right now. They’re not gonna get a superstar coach, they may not even get a star coach. They’re gonna have to settle for someone like Schiano, Larry Fedora, Dino Babers, Dana Holgorsen, Bronco Mendenhall or Bobby Petrino (not saying any of those last 5 would go there) for the vacancy... aka someone that isn’t a superstar but isn’t necessarily bad either. Just somewhere in the middle.

Bronco wouldn't go there because of the lack of academic integrity and lack of moral code by the school. There is a reason his two jobs have been BYU and UVA.

[Cervantes]

lol

Judging by a few responses from Vols fans, I guess a nerve was struck.

I probably used the wrong words. Sure, Tennessee ''deserves'' a top-tier coach. Who doesn't? Of course they should want a top-tier coach, but what I should have said is there are a lot of Tennessee fans who expect a top-tier coach, or a huge-name coach.

In the first place, name all of the top-tier coaches out there. How many is there? Not many. Now, as a Tennessee fan, take a Nick Saban, or Jon Gruden, or maybe Urban or Dabo.

I think those are top-tier coaches (along with Gruden, I guess)...so why would they want to go to Tennessee? I guess that was my point. Great tradition, sure. Great fanbase, sure.

I just chuckled at so many rabid Vols fans who expected a huge hire.

You're Tennessee. That was my point. Sorry if it offends you, but it's the truth.

The SEC is better when the Vols are successful, but it's been a while.

Oh, and UF > UT.

:D

[calculusdork]

lol

Judging by a few responses from Vols fans, I guess a nerve was struck.

I probably used the wrong words. Sure, Tennessee ''deserves'' a top-tier coach. Who doesn't? Of course they should want a top-tier coach, but what I should have said is there are a lot of Tennessee fans who expect a top-tier coach, or a huge-name coach.

In the first place, name all of the top-tier coaches out there. How many is there? Not many. Now, as a Tennessee fan, take a Nick Saban, or Jon Gruden, or maybe Urban or Dabo.

I think those are top-tier coaches (along with Gruden, I guess)...so why would they want to go to Tennessee? I guess that was my point. Great tradition, sure. Great fanbase, sure.

I just chuckled at so many rabid Vols fans who expected a huge hire.

You're Tennessee. That was my point. Sorry if it offends you, but it's the truth.

The SEC is better when the Vols are successful, but it's been a while.

Oh, and UF > UT.

:D

Apparently David Cutcliffe turned down Tennessee to stay at Duke, so, uhhhh ... yeah, that's where UT is right now.

[packman80]

Apparently David Cutcliffe turned down Tennessee to stay at Duke, so, uhhhh ... yeah, that's where UT is right now.

Rumor is they are now looking at Tee Martin as a coach.

[TWard]

Rumor is they are now looking at Tee Martin as a coach.


Looks like Mike Gundy has interviewed for it as well.

[TWard]

Bronco wouldn't go there because of the lack of academic integrity and lack of moral code by the school. There is a reason his two jobs have been BYU and UVA.


Reading comprehension is strong, Cavy.

Never said he would go there, just used his name as an example. Gah. Go back to elementary school, bro.

[calculusdork]

Rumor is they are now looking at Tee Martin as a coach.

I think Martin would be a fantastic hire. I don't mean this as degradation ... it's the best UT fans should hope for, and IMO it's exactly what the school needs.

If they could hire a new AD, Martin could succeed there.

[ClipsandVols]

One of UT athletic department's flight schedule... [emoji57][emoji57]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171128/7707e55380ebc19088be23618b65c2fa.jpg

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[Boo]

https://i.imgur.com/B6fzWNh.gif

[Cavaliercards]

Reading comprehension is strong, Cavy.

Never said he would go there, just used his name as an example. Gah. Go back to elementary school, bro.

Never said you said he would. Am saying when throwing out potential coaches one must consider if just throwing out names to say things. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[rman112]

Boo, that gif is like a 5 year old getting upset and telling everyone that he's a big boy, and totally not a little baby anymore.

I don't think anyone after the year of 1997 can heavily succeed with a mullet.

https://pistolsfiringblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Screen-Shot-2016-11-03-at-9.48.04-AM-810x407.jpg

[HP7163]

Boo, that gif is like a 5 year old getting upset and telling everyone that he's a big boy, and totally not a little baby anymore.

I don't think anyone after the year of 1997 can heavily succeed with a mullet.


Jaromir Jagr has been killing it for over 20 years on & off the ice.. so it can be done :D

[rman112]

Jaromir Jagr has been killing it for over 20 years on & off the ice.. so it can be done :D

Haha.. damn you! Hockey doesn't count! :)

[lambeauleap87]

It's still amazing to me that a bunch of Twitter blowhards were able to derail a university from hiring a coach because they thought they deserved, especially the man who made Rutgers a respectable program for the first time in a long time.

[MeteoriteGuy]

They should have vetted him more to begin with, but not hiring Schiano, was the correct move.

I don't think many of you have read the deposition/court testimonies...and no, not the one where his fellow coach and two of kids stated under oath that Schiano knew, the root case. There was close to 50 contacts with Penn coaches and the victims/victim families, and that was just the first 12 boys. They have paid off about 40 now. (33 plus however many the other day...not disclosed.)

It's almost impossible for him to not have known, basically working directly under the molester. But if he was totally ignorant, and completely blind to what apparently almost every coach knew, then he is completely unqualified to be a head coach.

Ohio State should fire him, and the complete Paterno staff should be blackballed from the sport. We choose who are friends are and who we work with. Schiano either chose to be blind to his friends or more simply, was an enabler to keep his job.

[hairysasquatch]

They should have vetted him more to begin with, but not hiring Schiano, was the correct move.

I don't think many of you have read the deposition/court testimonies...and no, not the one where his fellow coach and two of kids stated under oath that Schiano knew, the root case. There was close to 50 contacts with Penn coaches and the victims/victim families, and that was just the first 12 boys. They have paid off about 40 now. (33 plus however many the other day...not disclosed.)

It's almost impossible for him to not have known, basically working directly under the molester. But if he was totally ignorant, and completely blind to what apparently almost every coach knew, then he is completely unqualified to be a head coach.

Ohio State should fire him, and the complete Paterno staff should be blackballed from the sport. We choose who are friends are and who we work with. Schiano either chose to be blind to his friends or more simply, was an enabler to keep his job.

This is spot on. Thanks for shedding some much-needed light on this issue. PSU should have gotten the death penalty for what happened there under Paterno's watch (or lack thereof).

[Cavaliercards]

Mike Gundy just turned down $42 million from the Vols.

Freaking hilarious how bad UT has screwed this up.

[herdfan87]

Mike Gundy just turned down $42 million from the Vols.

Freaking hilarious how bad UT has screwed this up.

It's like watching the Cleveland Browns, ole Jimmy Haslam is like the opposite King Midas!

[packman80]

This is spot on. Thanks for shedding some much-needed light on this issue. PSU should have gotten the death penalty for what happened there under Paterno's watch (or lack thereof).

So kids who played there and future kids all whom had nothing to do with this should be the ones to get punished by not being able to play? Yeah that makes a lot of sense. NOT!

[packman80]

Guess report out that TN working on contract with Purdue HC Jeff Brohm

[MeteoriteGuy]

So kids who played there and future kids all whom had nothing to do with this should be the ones to get punished by not being able to play? Yeah that makes a lot of sense. NOT!

Pretty sure he was referring to the coaches. Although, it was hard not to notice that 99% of the young men, not kids, under Paterno, were 100% supporting him, and basically called all the real kids in this liars.

This was not a one time thing, but a system of abuse that spanned decades. As they like to say, We are Penn State. I would be hesitant to hire anyone with a Penn degree at this point.

If Penn State wishes to clean its slate, and regain its position among institutions, it needs to stop signing no disclosure payoffs. You don't get forgiveness for something you only admit in private with lawyers.

For example the 33 million dollar payout this last week that no one knows what exactly it was for, or even how many people it went to.

They should also tell Paterno's son to shut up and that he doesn't represent the college.

[hairysasquatch]

So kids who played there and future kids all whom had nothing to do with this should be the ones to get punished by not being able to play? Yeah that makes a lot of sense. NOT!

Makes sense to eliminate a program that for years facilitated the sexual abuse of children. Current PSU fans joking about taking their opponents "to the showers" (which I believe can be found in the Big 10 thread) reflect the lack of learning in this sad situation.

[hairysasquatch]

Guess report out that TN working on contract with Purdue HC Jeff Brohm

So much for Purduke after 1 season. :doh:

[Cavaliercards]

Guess report out that TN working on contract with Purdue HC Jeff Brohm

Reports out now that he said no as did NC State Coach

[hairysasquatch]

Reports out now that he said no as did NC State Coach

Pop Warner league champion from Murfreesboro reportedly next on deck for interview.

[Cavaliercards]

Pop Warner league champion from Murfreesboro reportedly next on deck for interview.

When you have coaches turning down $42 million. You really have screwed up.

[packman80]

Reports out now that he said no as did NC State Coach

UT AD John Currie made an offer to Jeff Brohm that Brohm accepted. Currie then asked the chancellor to approve the offer — buyout included — and chancellor said no. So Currie went back to Brohm with lesser offer and Brohm said no.

[packman80]

When you have coaches turning down $42 million. You really have screwed up.

Seems TN is looking to hire a coach on the cheap. Won't get much if you want to pay a guy peanuts. Maybe can go to clown college to hire someone. But that means TN would have to hire from within then.

[Cavaliercards]

Seems TN is looking to hire a coach on the cheap. Won't get much if you want to pay a guy peanuts. Maybe can go to clown college to hire someone. But that means TN would have to hire from within then.

Just hire Fulmer back and get it over with.

[JCC6603]

Just hire Fulmer back and get it over with.

I'm a Tennessee fan.....I'll be upset if we hire NC State's coach who is gonna get fired in a year or two. Just go get Tee Martin now, if we're gonna suck at least let it be one of our own.

[HP7163]

I'm a Tennessee fan.....I'll be upset if we hire NC State's coach who is gonna get fired in a year or two. Just go get Tee Martin now, if we're gonna suck at least let it be one of our own.

Not a Tennessee fan but IF it's about winning and no care for moral compass, Bobby Petrino would take that type of program back to winning quickly

Isn't happening but that dirt bag can recruit but hide your female trainers and be prepared for him to split on a dime :coffee:

[JCC6603]

Not a Tennessee fan but IF it's about winning and no care for moral compass, Bobby Petrino would take that type of program back to winning quickly

Isn't happening but that dirt bag can recruit but hide your female trainers and be prepared for him to split on a dime :coffee:

No thanks, and no thanks on Kiffin too. Give me Kevin Steele before them.

[ClipsandVols]

Just hire Fulmer back and get it over with.At this rate, that may be the best option.

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[lambeauleap87]

The failure of this coaching search is growing in hilarity everyday. Good work, Tennessee Twitter heroes!

[JCC6603]

The failure of this coaching search is growing in hilarity everyday. Good work, Tennessee Twitter heroes!

It's not the fans fault the administration is a joke

[calculusdork]

Anyone see Kiffin's tweet? Looooooool

[Cavaliercards]

It's not the fans fault the administration is a joke

It is everyone's fault now.

[calculusdork]

https://twitter.com/Lane_Kiffin/status/936028243177754624?s=09

[jcayce]

Being a Vols fan is super hard right now. So embarrassing the stuff that is being said on social media.

Need to fire the AD and stop letting the Haslem family make all the calls.

[HP7163]

Lebatard show was joking saying if you want a raise, go interview for the Tennessee job ha

[tnvolfan16]

It is everyone's fault now.

you are wrong. the fans have supported this program for 10 years on the promise that we just have to be patient. and the last two hires have been complete jokes. then, while florida goes out and gets a decent hire, texas a&m seems poised to get a good coach, and ucla gets the big prize, the idiots running this search tried to shove another non-qualified yokul down our throat again and the fans were tired of it. maybe that's unfair to schiano, but I am sorry, everything you read about this guy says he is hard to deal with and pretty much is a butch jones 2.0. he may be a fine coordinator, I dunno, but we did not want him as our coach when their are better qualified candidates out there and quite frankly I dont expect other fanbases to want whats best for us. and of course, I dont expect anyone from virginia to understand what having high expectations for their team is, well, because outside of three years va tech had with Michael vick, no school in that state has ever had any reason to have high expectations. and that's fine, but we are being charged like a top 15 program around here, so it is only fair that we expect to be given coaching candidates that are on par with those requirements. so no, its not everyones fault, its just that the voiceless finally had a voice and no one around here really cares if you like it or not

[rman112]

Greg Schiano is from Northern NJ. I'd say that yokel is.. uh.. not the correct adjective.

What about his one college stint as collegiate head coach says 'unqualified'.. ?

[HP7163]

you are wrong. the fans have supported this program for 10 years on the promise that we just have to be patient. and the last two hires have been complete jokes. then, while florida goes out and gets a decent hire, texas a&m seems poised to get a good coach, and ucla gets the big prize, the idiots running this search tried to shove another non-qualified yokul down our throat again and the fans were tired of it. maybe that's unfair to schiano, but I am sorry, everything you read about this guy says he is hard to deal with and pretty much is a butch jones 2.0. he may be a fine coordinator, I dunno, but we did not want him as our coach when their are better qualified candidates out there and quite frankly I dont expect other fanbases to want whats best for us. and of course, I dont expect anyone from virginia to understand what having high expectations for their team is, well, because outside of three years va tech had with Michael vick, no school in that state has ever had any reason to have high expectations. and that's fine, but we are being charged like a top 15 program around here, so it is only fair that we expect to be given coaching candidates that are on par with those requirements. so no, its not everyones fault, its just that the voiceless finally had a voice and no one around here really cares if you like it or not

Just my 2 cents here so take with a grain of salt... BUTTTTT problem is ... the Tennessee Volunteers fans are ONE of the most entitled fan bases in the country. The team hasn't recorded a season with l< 3 loses since 2001 and haven't recorded a division record with < 2 losses in over 10 years .... out of the "power teams" in the SEC ..Tennessee only has a winning record vs LSU and Georgia (by 1) all time (Alabama owns the rivalry, Auburn, Florida all better historically matched up. Obv that can be open to interpretation.

YOURE NOT THAT GOOD .. I'm a Miami and Texas (moms alma Mater) fan so I'm well aware of unrealistic expectations but if Tennessee fans EXPECT some hot or big time head coach to just beg for the job or have the pick of the litter, they're crazy !!!!

A top 15-20 program is just that (and I'm being nice... ) it's not top 5-10 like Tennessee fans/brass come across

[tnvolfan16]

Just my 2 cents here so take with a grain of salt... BUTTTTT problem is ... the Tennessee Volunteers fans are ONE of the most entitled fan bases in the country. The team hasn't recorded a season with l< 3 loses since 2001 and haven't recorded a division record with < 2 losses in over 10 years .... out of the "power teams, Tennessee only has a winning record vs LSU and Georgia (by 1) all time (Alabama owns the rivalry, Auburn, Florida all better historically matched up. Obv that can be open to interpretation.

YOURE NOT THAT GOOD .. I'm a Miami and Texas (moms alma Mater) fan so I'm well aware of unrealistic expectations but if Tennessee fans EXPECT some hot or big time head coach to just be for this job they're crazy

A top 15-20 program is just that .. it's not top 5-10 like Tennessee fans/brass come across

no more entitled than any other fanbase of a top tier program. all schools fans feel the exact same way about their school. hey, I got no problem with anyone saying we are down right now. it is a fact. that's why we fired butch jones, the team underperformed the last three years. the east has been down and we have had the talent to win it at least two of the last three years. those are missed opportunities that don't come around often. if you want to say the fans were spoiled in the 90's, may be true, but I get tired of seeing the administration over here screw up hires that the fans have to live with for at least three years and then we get the blame because we are tired of their screw-ups.

[Cavaliercards]

you are wrong. the fans have supported this program for 10 years on the promise that we just have to be patient. and the last two hires have been complete jokes. then, while florida goes out and gets a decent hire, texas a&m seems poised to get a good coach, and ucla gets the big prize, the idiots running this search tried to shove another non-qualified yokul down our throat again and the fans were tired of it. maybe that's unfair to schiano, but I am sorry, everything you read about this guy says he is hard to deal with and pretty much is a butch jones 2.0. he may be a fine coordinator, I dunno, but we did not want him as our coach when their are better qualified candidates out there and quite frankly I dont expect other fanbases to want whats best for us. and of course, I dont expect anyone from virginia to understand what having high expectations for their team is, well, because outside of three years va tech had with Michael vick, no school in that state has ever had any reason to have high expectations. and that's fine, but we are being charged like a top 15 program around here, so it is only fair that we expect to be given coaching candidates that are on par with those requirements. so no, its not everyones fault, its just that the voiceless finally had a voice and no one around here really cares if you like it or not

UVA fans supported their program with same promise through Al Groh and Mike London. Clemson through Bowden. Every fanbase supports through with promise of it getting better.

VT has second longest bowl streak in country behind FSU. They have high expectations and have been closer to them than UT (even with UT loss) recently and I say that as a UVA fan.

UVA expectations are 7-9 wins and a bowl for us that is high based on the requirements that no other school outside of a Military Academy has.

Florida's AD was previously as Miss State. It was known 2 years ago they were going after Mullen (until Chip Kelly became available)

UCLA fired Mora with a large buyout knowing Chip Kelly would come back to the PAC-12.

Those were existing relationships that got those jobs.

Currie's existing relationship is with Bill Snyder.

Schiano was a guy that took the worst program Rutgers around and made it respectable. There is a reason Urban Meyer and Patriot Bill love the guy.

Gruden
Gundy
Brohm
Witten
Clawson
Cutcliffe
Kiffin in a Kiffinesque way.

to name a few, not counting Coaches like Pat Fitzgerald saying he loves Northwestern and don't ask or coaches that have privately said no.

So like any fans you hold your team dear and I respect that, but the reality is that coaches do not hold it that dear or in high regard.

Coach like Matt Campbell or PJ Fleck would have been a good hire last year, but right now based on everyones' actions you are going to either overpay or have to take a shot and hope for the best.

It is not a shot but at this point fanbase, admin, and donors are not clicking and it looks bad for coaches, agents, coaches' families, recruits and more.

Edit: I see you say Top Tier Program but 1/2 the SEC Claims to be, 1/3 PAC-12, 1/8 of Big 12, 1/2 Big 10, 1/3 of ACC. There are not that many Top Tier programs. Top Tier is fluid and is how have you been past decade to fifteen years IMO.

[HP7163]

no more entitled than any other fanbase of a top tier program. all schools fans feel the exact same way about their school. hey, I got no problem with anyone saying we are down right now. it is a fact. that's why we fired butch jones, the team underperformed the last three years. the east has been down and we have had the talent to win it at least two of the last three years. those are missed opportunities that don't come around often. if you want to say the fans were spoiled in the 90's, may be true, but I get tired of seeing the administration over here screw up hires that the fans have to live with for at least three years and then we get the blame because we are tired of their screw-ups.

Like I said I have ties to Miami and Texas so I know how you feel .. it's hard to stay on the mountain top

[JCC6603]

I think it's Les Miles time now! Thank goodness the NC State guy said no!

[Boo]

I think it's Les Miles time now! Thank goodness the NC State guy said no!

It was funny that NC State fans were hoping he said yes!

[JCC6603]

It was funny that NC State fans were hoping he said yes!

I know, that's how bad our decision makers are.

[TWard]

This things gets more hilarious by the day.

[hairysasquatch]

Johnny Knoxville!

[Cavaliercards]

Going after Sumlin now. That is not gonna get you to the top of the ACC

[Viking6]

Going after Sumlin now. That is not gonna get you to the top of the ACC

It would be possible for him to get them to the top of the SEC thou

[TWard]

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[HP7163]

You know you're not a top tier program when the coach of NC State says no... ooof..

[Cavaliercards]

It would be possible for him to get them to the top of the SEC thou

Would have been possible at A&M too. He had more newer facilities, an expanded stadium, hot team in Texas recruiting ground.

He should ask for the $42 million fully guaranteed Gundy was offered.

[TWard]

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[Cavaliercards]

You know you're not a top tier program when the coach of NC State says no... ooof..

Just need Fedora to say no and the whole research triangle will have said no.

Here’s thing people saying have to get a “name” or “established” coach. What was Dabo Swinney’s background?

Going back to Schiano and people saying he sucked in NFL, didn’t see Saban lighting it up there.

[TWard]

They just need to get it over with and hire Les Miles or Kevin Sumlin. I’m sure Les still wants to coach.

[HP7163]

Just need Fedora to say no and the whole research triangle will have said no.

Here’s thing people saying have to get a “name” or “established” coach. What was Dabo Swinney’s background?

Going back to Schiano and people saying he sucked in NFL, didn’t see Saban lighting it up there.

Dabo had ties to Alabama then under Bowden at Clemson before he got the HC gig

Schiano is a good college coach and prob would've done ok at Tennessee

[Cavaliercards]

Dabo had ties to Alabama then under Bowden at Clemson before he got the HC gig

Schiano is a good college coach and prob would've done ok at Tennessee

He had ties, but he wasn’t an established name/brand like UT is demanding. Time to start looking at some OC not named Tee Martin

[herdfan87]

Reading all the reports about ASU interested in Herm Edwards, that is an interesting one.

[HP7163]

He had ties, but he wasn’t an established name/brand like UT is demanding. Time to start looking at some OC not named Tee Martin

He was established at Clemson for years before he was an interim HC but known as a master recruiter so was given the job

[HP7163]

Reading all the reports about ASU interested in Herm Edwards, that is an interesting one.

Interesting but a bit confusing since herm will be 64 soon and a bland rag rah defensive coach.. I think his time has passed esp for a school like ASU.

[Cavaliercards]

He was established at Clemson for years before he was an interim HC but known as a master recruiter so was given the job

At time Clemson fans were in a uproar and pissed that was the best they could do. They wanted a Head Coach with an established brand. Lot of great recruiters out there doesn't make them good head coaches.

[Cavaliercards]

Interesting but a bit confusing since herm will be 64 soon and a bland rag rah defensive coach.. I think his time has passed esp for a school like ASU.

Since they are making him retain the OC, I think it is a placeholder for the OC to get the job in a few years.

Plus, ASU's AD is Herm's former Agent.

[HP7163]

At time Clemson fans were in a uproar and pissed that was the best they could do. They wanted a Head Coach with an established brand. Lot of great recruiters out there doesn't make them good head coaches.

True but it got him the job

Like I said .. not a Tennessee fan but following the story

[HP7163]

Since they are making him retain the OC, I think it is a placeholder for the OC to get the job in a few years.

Plus, ASU's AD is Herm's former Agent.

Ah.. a former agent that's now an AD ? Can't make this stuff up :D

[JCC6603]

Les or Sumlin are sooooo much better options than Schiano or Doeren. Really pathetic whoever is making these decisions over there.

[Cavaliercards]

True but it got him the job

Like I said .. not a Tennessee fan but following the story

Got him the job and most of their base said it was a colossal mistake and now look where they are. Might be time for UT to get smart as no coach wants to be the 14th or 15th public choice, let alone the private declines we are not aware of.

Matt Campbell stayed at Iowa State instead of UT, ISU is one of the worst programs historically.

[Cavaliercards]

Les or Sumlin are sooooo much better options than Schiano or Doeren. Really pathetic whoever is making these decisions over there.

Sumlin will cause UT fans to lose faith quicker, Ol Hat Tosser will make you remember well he did win a Title at LSU and will give him extra time.

[HP7163]

Got him the job and most of their base said it was a colossal mistake and now look where they are. Might be time for UT to get smart as no coach wants to be the 14th or 15th public choice, let alone the private declines we are not aware of.

Matt Campbell stayed at Iowa State instead of UT, ISU is one of the worst programs historically.


Appears that guys would rather stay at programs that have more realistic expectations while also knowing the fan base won't want them fired if they lose some rough games

Tough situation there.. sometimes it sucks to have to look in the mirror and accept responsibility that maybe "you" can't get a big time coach because of "you"

Kinda like working for a complete over bearing "Bleep hole" who has zero idea how to manage people while also not realizing or admitting they're a "bleep hole" (thank god I have only experienced this 2x in my life ha)

[Cavaliercards]

Appears that guys would rather stay at programs that have more realistic expectations while also knowing the fan base won't want them fired if they lose some rough games

Tough situation there.. sometimes it sucks to have to look in the mirror and accept responsibility that maybe "you" can't get a big time coach because of "you"

Kinda like working for a complete over bearing "Bleep hole" who has zero idea how to manage people while also not realizing or admitting they're a "bleep hole" (thank god I have only experienced this 2x in my life ha)

Agreed at this juncture approximately 1/10th of D1 Football Coaches (if include the fired ones) have publicly said no. If that is not an eye-opener I am not sure what is.

[HP7163]

Agreed at this juncture approximately 1/10th of D1 Football Programs (if include the fired ones) have publicly said no. If that is not an eye-opener I am not sure what is.

Plus you know high profile guys like Peyton Manning have been asked or used to pull strings like you hinted at earlier that we're unaware of

I used to have a drinking buddy that was a UT grad... smart guy (Forrest labs rep) but when it came to Tennessee football he was the harshest, most unrealistic, bi polar fan I'd ever met. When I would tell him dude you just won a national title not long ago, he would be like ya and fulmer got lucky.. he's an idiot :doh:

That's when I knew Tennessee fans are just like Texas, Florida, etc that they think it's easy and sometimes you have to curb expectations. Highly doubt Tennessee or its fans will accept that they're starting over basically

[lambeauleap87]

It's not the fans fault the administration is a joke

The administration had selected a very fine candidate until the heroic protestors decided they needed someone better. I would say that's backfired.

[JCC6603]

The administration had selected a very fine candidate until the heroic protestors decided they needed someone better. I would say that's backfired.



That's your opinion, no matter who ends up the coach I'm glad it's not him.


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[Cavaliercards]

The administration had selected a very fine candidate until the heroic protestors decided they needed someone better. I would say that's backfired.

Agreed and now they have gotten turned down by how many publicly? Not to mention the private ones. They have shown to be a program in disarray and not the power they claim to be, but with their history I would claim it too. Schiano was a good choice with good pedigree and probably would have snagged a Meyer Offensive assistant or two as well to run the offense.

This point you hire a caretaker coach to get you to bowl games like Jim Grobe and try again in a year or two.

Probably Sumlin takes the job gets the Vols their 8 wins and they fire him in 4 years.

[packman80]

Sumlin told TN not interested.

Guess only choice left for TN is to hire that security guard that caught caught beating off at the Chargers game last year since non one else wants the job and people would keep a close eye on him to see how he does. LOL

[Cavaliercards]

Sumlin told TN not interested.

Guess only choice left for TN is to hire that security guard that caught caught beating off at the Chargers game last year since non one else wants the job and people would keep a close eye on him to see how he does. LOL

Public and Private they have to be up to 20% of D1 Coaches saying no (if you include coaches that were fired)

Bret Bielema is available or Hugh Freeze

[mr10pin]

I just missed a call from an 865 number. Some guy named John wanted to talk to me about an exciting career opportunity. He didn't leave much other detail...just wanted me to call back. Anyone else get a similar call?

[packman80]

I just missed a call from an 865 number. Some guy named John wanted to talk to me about an exciting career opportunity. He didn't leave much other detail...just wanted me to call back. Anyone else get a similar call?

got a email from some prince in Africa saying I can be rich if I give him my bank account number.

[HP7163]

Public and Private they have to be up to 20% of D1 Coaches saying no (if you include coaches that were fired)

Bret Bielema is available or Hugh Freeze

Pretty sure the hookers and portraying the holy roller schtick won't work right now in terms of hugh :coffee:

[Cervantes]

Brett McMurphy
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@Brett_McMurphy
Sources: John Currie was prepared to hire Mike Leach but university officials wouldn’t allow him to do so. Phillip Fulmer has been sabotaging search process in hopes to become Tennessee’s AD
8:15 AM - Dec 1, 2017



Reports also say they (finally) fired AD Currie.

Michael Crowe
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@MichaelReports
Just saw @john_currie walk into UT Chancellor Davenport’s office at 9:08a. Was in there about 12min, walked out.
I chatted with him for a sec—he said “I can’t say anything to you just now” and got in the elevator @wbir
7:23 AM - Dec 1, 2017

[Cervantes]

I don't think Tennesee is what some people think it is, no matter how many ways you want to call us stupid.

Tennessee is a mid-tier SEC team who nobody outside of Tennessee thinks is relevant in college football. "Tradition", and past glories can only go so far, like around Thanksgiving dinner, remembering the 'good ol' days' with your dad.

So, Vols fan who were so upset because people were 'dogging' you, NOBODY on here is faulting you for wanting a ''top-tier'' coach, or having pride in your school/team, but what you feel you deserve and what you can actually get are on opposite sides of the spectrum.

Hell, I deserve a few million in the bank, because why not. I'm going to work now, because bills.

[tnvolfan16]

I don't think Tennesee is what some people think it is, no matter how many ways you want to call us stupid.

Tennessee is a mid-tier SEC team who nobody outside of Tennessee thinks is relevant in college football. "Tradition", and past glories can only go so far, like around Thanksgiving dinner, remembering the 'good ol' days' with your dad.

So, Vols fan who were so upset because people were 'dogging' you, NOBODY on here is faulting you for wanting a ''top-tier'' coach, or having pride in your school/team, but what you feel you deserve and what you can actually get are on opposite sides of the spectrum.

Hell, I deserve a few million in the bank, because why not. I'm going to work now, because bills.

so are you saying Alabama is not relevant? because when they got tired of sucking and hired nick saban, they were a long way away from relevant. they had a couple 10 win seasons mixed with a lot of 4, 6, and 7 win seasons. they got tired of it and decided to go all in on a good coach and fix it, now here they are. you don't get a good coach when the search is bungled like this, but that is not the fans fault like you personally made it out to be

[Viking6]

Bye Bye Currie. This whole situation is just comical.

[calculusdork]

Brett McMurphy
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@Brett_McMurphy
Sources: John Currie was prepared to hire Mike Leach but university officials wouldn’t allow him to do so. Phillip Fulmer has been sabotaging search process in hopes to become Tennessee’s AD
8:15 AM - Dec 1, 2017

If true, that's messed up.

[bigcwd2000]

This is one crazy coaching search saga.

[TWard]

This is one crazy coaching search saga.


That’s an understatement haha

[Cavaliercards]

Not only is their AD out, but their Football Legends, Fulmer and Manning, both supported and were pissed when Schiano didn’t get the job.

This situation is too comical

[Cavaliercards]

Fulmer is getting the AD job.

He will give the job to one of his cronies or Tee Martin.

Other news, FSU targeting Charlie Strong among others LOL.

[TWard]

Fulmer is getting the AD job.

He will give the job to one of his cronies or Tee Martin.

Other news, FSU targeting Charlie Strong among others LOL.


Yep, looks like he’s getting the AD job. Fulmer is such a snake. I loathed UT when he was there and have tolerated them since he stopped coaching but i now will go back to loathing the Vols. Such a shady snake.

He will definitely be giving the job to Tee Martin, another Vol alum, or one of his butt buddies.

[Cavaliercards]

Yep, looks like he’s getting the AD job. Fulmer is such a snake. I loathed UT when he was there and have tolerated them since he stopped coaching but i now will go back to loathing the Vols. Such a shady snake.

He will definitely be giving the job to Tee Martin, another Vol alum, or one of his butt buddies.

There is a reason they call it the Fulmer Cup when a team leads NCAA in arrests.

[HP7163]

Fulmer is getting the AD job.

He will give the job to one of his cronies or Tee Martin.

Other news, FSU targeting Charlie Strong among others LOL.


I don't think Charlie Strong is a bad coach plus he's spent a whole year down in south Florida recruiting which would help esp now that Miami is rising

Plus if we're completely honest.. if I were a black parent or kid It would be a plus to send my kid to play under a black coach

[rman112]

I don't think Charlie Strong is a bad coach plus he's spent a whole year down in south Florida recruiting which would help esp now that Miami is rising

Plus if we're completely honest.. if I were a black parent or kid It would be a plus to send my kid to play under a black coach

Doesn't FSU typically recruit a lot of.. um.. questionable kids? Seems like Strong is wayyy more strict.

[HP7163]

Doesn't FSU typically recruit a lot of.. um.. questionable kids? Seems like Strong is wayyy more strict.

True but he did have a pretty awkward affair exposed so maybe his "moral compass" has taken a turn ? :eek:

[rman112]

True but he did have a pretty awkward affair exposed so maybe his "moral compass" has taken a turn ? :eek:

Didn't hear about that. It's funny though.. it's usually the guys that portray the squeaky clean image that have all the skeletons in their closet.

[HP7163]

Didn't hear about that. It's funny though.. it's usually the guys that portray the squeaky clean image that have all the skeletons in their closet.

It apparently happened at Louisville and was stated in a boosters divorce case but was amplified by Texas boosters who wanted him gone.

Same thing with Jimbo Fischer not long ago.. he got caught to

[LRV]

so are you saying Alabama is not relevant? because when they got tired of sucking and hired nick saban, they were a long way away from relevant. they had a couple 10 win seasons mixed with a lot of 4, 6, and 7 win seasons. they got tired of it and decided to go all in on a good coach and fix it, now here they are. you don't get a good coach when the search is bungled like this, but that is not the fans fault like you personally made it out to be

Absolutely right.. During the 10 years from 1997 until Saban's hire in 2007 Bama was 1-9 vs Tenn. and 3-7 vs both Abarn and LSU.

But their coaching search was far from smooth. It took over a month and they were turned down by Spurrier and Rich Rodriguez, who originally said yes but changed his mind. AD Mal Moore also looked into hiring Schiano, David Cutcliffe, Mike Sherman and I remember Butch Davis added his name into the mix as well. :eek:

Mal Moore basically went to Saban's house in Florida unannounced to offer him the job and when Saban's wife called and told him Moore wanted to talk to him Saban basically said no, that he was staying with the Dolphins. She finally said something like "Well you're going to have to at least talk to him because he's at the house & I invited him to stay for dinner."

[Cavaliercards]

It apparently happened at Louisville and was stated in a boosters divorce case but was amplified by Texas boosters who wanted him gone.

Same thing with Jimbo Fischer not long ago.. he got caught to

He was not caught.

His wife was caught hooking up with her trainer who was an ex-Florida Gator and another former Gator player.

[HP7163]

He was not caught.

His wife was caught hooking up with her trainer who was an ex-Florida Gator and another former Gator player.

Ah I thought he also got caught allegedly with some FSU co eds?

Messy stuff tho.. Taylor Jacobs **? Yikes

[calculusdork]

Absolutely right.. During the 10 years from 1997 until Saban's hire in 2007 Bama was 1-9 vs Tenn. and 3-7 vs both Abarn and LSU.

But their coaching search was far from smooth. It took over a month and they were turned down by Spurrier and Rich Rodriguez, who originally said yes but changed his mind. AD Mal Moore also looked into hiring Schiano, David Cutcliffe, Mike Sherman and I remember Butch Davis added his name into the mix as well. :eek:

Mal Moore basically went to Saban's house in Florida unannounced to offer him the job and when Saban's wife called and told him Moore wanted to talk to him Saban basically said no, that he was staying with the Dolphins. She finally said something like "Well you're going to have to at least talk to him because he's at the house & I invited him to stay for dinner."

True story. Incredible too.

[herdfan87]

All I know is this better at LEAST get a 30 for 30 short.

[tnvolfan16]

Yep, looks like he’s getting the AD job. Fulmer is such a snake. I loathed UT when he was there and have tolerated them since he stopped coaching but i now will go back to loathing the Vols. Such a shady snake.

He will definitely be giving the job to Tee Martin, another Vol alum, or one of his butt buddies.

i was not terribly enthused about coach fulmer getting the job, but this post changed my mind.

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[HP7163]

i was not terribly enthused about coach fulmer getting the job, but this post changed my mind.

396940

It sounds like a game of thrones type move since he was let go years ago .. he was planning on trying to take this job for years apparently.. :eek:

[Cavaliercards]

It sounds like a game of thrones type move since he was let go years ago .. he was planning on trying to take this job for years apparently.. :eek:

Sounds like he screwed over UT to just get some power.

[HP7163]

Sounds like he screwed over UT to just get some power.

Certainly looks that way.. and isn't Peyton manning a close fulmer friend ?

[Cavaliercards]

Certainly looks that way.. and isn't Peyton manning a close fulmer friend ?

Yep and they both fully backed and recommended Schiano.

Probably were the ones calling the media to stir up stuff too.

[TWard]

Looks like Tennessee is finally gonna hire their new HC... and they have to raid Bama for him.

Bama DC Jeremy Pruitt looks like he’s gonna be the guy. We’ll see what happens.

[Cavaliercards]

Looks like Tennessee is finally gonna hire their new HC... and they have to raid Bama for him.

Bama DC Jeremy Pruitt looks like he’s gonna be the guy. We’ll see what happens.

Not an inspiring hire or what their fans claimed they could get, hope he does well.

[hairysasquatch]

Looks like Tennessee is finally gonna hire their new HC... and they have to raid Bama for him.

Bama DC Jeremy Pruitt looks like he’s gonna be the guy. We’ll see what happens.

Is he any relation to Sonny Pruitt from "Movin' On"?

[rman112]

So Tennessee fans complain that Schiano isn't good enough, and end up with Pruitt. Nice.

[MeteoriteGuy]

Looks like a decent hire to me. The DCs and OCs of top teams, in college and in the NFL, pretty much always become coaches after a few years.

And I would take anyone over Schiano. Like the local middle school coach or a day labor hire.

[tattooelement]

Pruitt is a great hire IMO.

As a Georgia fan, I'd rather seen UT hire pretty much any other coach they were trying/looking to get than Pruitt.

[Cavaliercards]

Looks like a decent hire to me. The DCs and OCs of top teams, in college and in the NFL, pretty much always become coaches after a few years.

And I would take anyone over Schiano. Like the local middle school coach or a day labor hire.

OCs get hired all the times but look at all the names they chased and got denied. This was a lower tier hire in sense of they couldn't get the name coaches.