Josh McDaniels will NOT accept Colts job. Will remain with the Patriots

[trixstar]

@AdamSchefter

Stunner: Patriots’ OC Josh McDaniels has decided NOT to accept Colts’ HC job and will remain with New England, sources told ESPN.

[xbignick]

Belichick to Indy!

[Brad]

BB stepping down?

[mr_yoshi_san]

Smart move?

[twisty571]

Now that is interesting!

[ThoseBackPages]

Belichick to Indy!

OMG YES!

Luck!!!!!

[gorillaz]

paging TWard...

[trixstar]

@AdamSchefter

In the past 48 hours, Patriots owner Robert Kraft began talking with Josh McDaniels and ultimately wound up sweetening his contract, helping to entice him to remain in New England, per sources. Bill Belichick has his OC back.

[JMarchand1981]

This cannot be true, can it?

[xbignick]

@AdamSchefter

In the past 48 hours, Patriots owner Robert Kraft began talking with Josh McDaniels and ultimately wound up sweetening his contract, helping to entice him to remain in New England, per sources. Bill Belichick has his OC back.

Happy to see it has nothing to do with Luck's health then, know it was suppose to begin throwing.

[goodole13]

He's going to be the next head coach for the Patriots whenever BB steps down.

[Cavaliercards]

Called it on Super Bowl Sunday. McDaniels is going to have a hand in picking Tom's replacement and is essentially a coach in waiting.

Kraft did not want Bill having to redo everything this offseason.

[Lothar52]

FAKE NEWS... he is on the COLTS

[gorillaz]

FAKE NEWS... he is on the COLTS

lol so close..... Bill told him not today....

[SaveMeTheGum]

Just got the alert -- that's a shock. Maybe BB is stepping down soon...

[TWard]

Hahahahahahaha, wow. What a tool.

[Miguels]

The Colts Organization and their fans are
getting the Cleveland Browns treatment.
That’s just sad.

[Cavaliercards]

The Colts Organization and their fans are
getting the Cleveland Browns treatment.
That’s just sad.

Bottom 10 Team, getting Bottom 10 Treatment.

[rman112]

DeFilippo to Indy?

[jjeanius]

FAKE NEWS... he is on the COLTS

Oh really..?!?

https://www.google.com/amp/profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/06/josh-mcdaniels-spurns-colts-will-stay-with-patriots/amp/

[roberth404]

lmaoooooooooo what the

[gorillaz]

It's either Josh McDaniels will be the coach in waiting in New England or Andrew Luck has no shoulder left.

[Cavaliercards]

It's either Josh McDaniels will be the coach in waiting in New England or Andrew Luck has no shoulder left.

Or Both

[Lothar52]

Just saw the report... wow...

[Bassplayah101]

https://twitter.com/PatsMilitia/status/961038713718476800

[gorillaz]

@AllbrightNFL Dave Toub is the Colts plan B

[Miguels]

Bottom 10 Team, getting Bottom 10 Treatment.

Scariest part to me might be what McDaniels saw with Andrew Lucks “rehab” I thought his stuff was at a still very expensive all time low but once people realize what happened they might drop again. Crazy news

[ninjacookies]

Breaking: Malcom Butler has accepted the head coach position in lieu of the McDaniels fake-out. Sources citing a possible strife that resulted in his benching stemmed from this decision.



Mind. Blown.

[SaveMeTheGum]

Maybe Indy will have to try the ol' "Suck for JimBob Cooter" trick.

[ILOVEBEER]

Called it on Super Bowl Sunday. McDaniels is going to have a hand in picking Tom's replacement and is essentially a coach in waiting.

Kraft did not want Bill having to redo everything this offseason.

Josh drafted Tebow. Have fun Patriots fans!!!

[byronscott4ever]

He was spying and getting intel on Indy the whole time

[Bassplayah101]

Josh drafted Tebow. Have fun Patriots fans!!!

Weve been having fun for 18 years, hows your team doin?

[Kingofkings1281]

I’m assuming this probably means one or two more years for Belichick and then handing over the franchise to McDaniels.

[BoxBreaker72]

There will be a 30 for 30 on this story one day.

They ANNOUNCED him as their HC today! LOL!

[AnthonyCorona]

Not a colts fan but hope this doesn't mean Luck is done. I've been a fan of his since Stanford m

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[Cavaliercards]

Josh drafted Tebow. Have fun Patriots fans!!!

Also fought hard for Matt Cassel to be drafted and did wonders with him in NE. Same with Jimmy G and Jacoby. Tom loves the guy. Yea, I will take his track record.

[Cavaliercards]

Scariest part to me might be what McDaniels saw with Andrew Lucks “rehab” I thought his stuff was at a still very expensive all time low but once people realize what happened they might drop again. Crazy news

Hopefully, Luck takes the insurance money and goes back to Civil War Reenacting

[rman112]

There will be a 30 for 30 on this story one day.

They ANNOUNCED him as their HC today! LOL!

You sayin' he pulled a Belichick?

[GoldPanner]

Wow. Sucks for Indy as I assume a lot of their other options have taken jobs elsewhere.

[Cavaliercards]

Wow. Sucks for Indy as I assume a lot of their other options have taken jobs elsewhere.

Tom Cable is around. Mike Tice too.

Heck, interview Frank Reich, he just won a SB.

[SaveMeTheGum]

Hopefully, Luck takes the insurance money and goes back to Civil War Reenacting

I thought it was Geico commercials...

[Bassplayah101]

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/961036780618297345

In the past 48 hours, Patriots owner Robert Kraft began talking with Josh McDaniels and ultimately wound up sweetening his contract, helping to entice him to remain in New England, per sources. Bill Belichick has his OC back.

[trixstar]

Honestly this is really unprofessional. What happens to the assistants he "hired", they're just hung out to dry

[88horsepower]

You know guys, sometimes things like this are meant to happen. While I'm a bit shocked and not pleased, perhaps there's another possibility here. Perhaps Indy will be better off without him. It's hard to say, but it's a bad look all around at the moment.

[Oldschool42]

HOLY CRAP

[TWard]

This was payback for DeflateGate. Firmly believe this was the Pats’ intention all along. And no one can tell me otherwise. Oh well, just gives me more reason to hate the Patriots.

[GoldPanner]

I know they are saying it is his contract but I feel like they probably told him he would be the next head coach and bellechick said that he was only going to coach for another year or something like that

[Siberian13]

Honestly this is really unprofessional. What happens to the assistants he "hired", they're just hung out to dry

Yeah he seems like a Lane Kiffen type of guy. Strange

[Bassplayah101]

The Colts right now..

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[TWard]

Honestly this is really unprofessional. What happens to the assistants he "hired", they're just hung out to dry


Yep, sure is.

I don’t want a guy like that coaching my team. Hope he fails miserably and gets booed outta New England.

[Cavaliercards]

Honestly this is really unprofessional. What happens to the assistants he "hired", they're just hung out to dry

He had not hired a staff yet, because he was still under contract with NE. He had said people he would bring from the Patriots staff and now those people get to be those positions in 1-2 years under McDaniels in New England and have better job security. :)!

[trixstar]

Benjamin Allbright is saying McDaniels was assured he's the next Pats HC as part of the deal.

[88horsepower]

If it's all true, and it probably is, I'd rather not have a guy with that kind of character coaching my favorite team. It might sting right now, but at the end of the day, I'm nodding my head and moving forward.

[asujbl]

Andrew Luck is jacked up

New England might have “sweetened the pot” but I’m not buying for a second that Luck is OK

[Bassplayah101]

This was payback for DeflateGate. Firmly believe this was the Pats’ intention all along. And no one can tell me otherwise. Oh well, just gives me more reason to hate the Patriots.

Tward right now..

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[rman112]

Yep, sure is.

I don’t want a guy like that coaching my team. Hope he fails miserably and gets booed outta New England.

McDaniels' temperment was already questionable as to whether he could be a good head coach.

Not a good look.

[trixstar]

He had not hired a staff yet, because he was still under contract with NE. He had said people he would bring from the Patriots staff and now those people get to be those positions in 1-2 years under McDaniels in New England and have better job security. :)!

@AlbertBreer

Per sources, the Colts also have contracts in place with three of Josh McDaniels' new assistants: Defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus, OL coach Dave DeGuglielmo and DL coach Mike Phair.

[Cavaliercards]

This was payback for DeflateGate. Firmly believe this was the Pats’ intention all along. And no one can tell me otherwise. Oh well, just gives me more reason to hate the Patriots.

Yes, they interviewed and took time away from planning the biggest game of the year just to come in and pull the rug out from under the Colts. :doh::doh::doh:

[Cavaliercards]

@AlbertBreer

Per sources, the Colts also have contracts in place with three of Josh McDaniels' new assistants: Defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus, OL coach Dave DeGuglielmo and DL coach Mike Phair.

Contracts in Place and Not Signed.

Of those three

One had an expiring contract in Dallas will assume he was going to be renewed.

One was fired by Dolphins and was unemployed.

One was about to be let go by Illinois.

[Kingofkings1281]

While I’m happy we aren’t losing him, it’s still pretty lame on his part.

[prospects]

Colts are the winners today. Joshua boy couldn’t coach a team to a winning record for anything. And lol at anyone who thinks Brady needs this clown. All Brady needs is a football and his offense will rock

[ILOVEBEER]

Weve been having fun for 18 years, hows your team doin?

Horrible, just like how the Pats will be in a couple years. You'll learn that having to a bad football team can be a good thing. A little more free time on Sundays is nice.

[Bassplayah101]

Honestly this is really unprofessional. What happens to the assistants he "hired", they're just hung out to dry

Since when is it unprofessional to change ones mind before the ink touches the paper?
Gimme a break.

This happens all the time to the McDonalds down the steeet to Goldman Sax to professional sports.

[rman112]

He had not hired a staff yet, because he was still under contract with NE. He had said people he would bring from the Patriots staff and now those people get to be those positions in 1-2 years under McDaniels in New England and have better job security. :)!

Eberflus from Dallas?

[SaveMeTheGum]

This was payback for DeflateGate. Firmly believe this was the Pats’ intention all along. And no one can tell me otherwise. Oh well, just gives me more reason to hate the Patriots.

I hadn't even considered that angle. I like this so much more now.

[twisty571]

It is kind of a d@ck move though. Looks like a 2-3 year window for BB & TB12? Josh get's his QB found and get's him a little sit time behind the GOAT and then both take over!

[Bassplayah101]

Horrible, just like how the Pats will be in a couple years. You'll learn that having to a bad football team can be a good thing. A little more free time on Sundays is nice.

That might be fine for you, Pink Hat.. but I still watch my team play from the seats Ive been purchasing since 1996.

[Cavaliercards]

Andrew Luck is jacked up

New England might have “sweetened the pot” but I’m not buying for a second that Luck is OK

Not believing he is either.

[Bassplayah101]

lol, there is so much immediate butthurt in this thread..

Im leaving.. You guys are all sad sallies, looking for reasons to be mad at something.

Ive turned down a job offer before. Am I unprofessional?

pfft..

later.

[Cavaliercards]

Since when is it unprofessional to change ones mind before the ink touches the paper?
Gimme a break.

This happens all the time to the McDonalds down the steeet to Goldman Sax to professional sports.

I took an offer with a company (but had not signed, I verbally and emailed my acceptance) I backed out when another company called and offered me a better position with a lot better pay. You are exactly right it happens all the time when a better offer is put on the table.

[Siberian13]

lol, there is so much immediate butthurt in this thread..

Im leaving.. You guys are all sad sallies, looking for reasons to be mad at something.

Ive turned down a job offer before. Am I unprofessional?

pfft..

later.

Feels like the Malcolm Butler thread :)

[Cavaliercards]

Eberflus from Dallas?

Only one that left an actual job and appears no contract was executed yet based on sources around the league. Probably waiting on McDaniels

[Siberian13]

I took an offer with a company (but had not signed, I verbally and emailed my acceptance) I backed out when another company called and offered me a better position with a lot better pay. You are exactly right it happens all the time when a better offer is put on the table.

I don’t think the media notified BO of this info though. :)

[Cavaliercards]

lol, there is so much immediate butthurt in this thread..

Im leaving.. You guys are all sad sallies, looking for reasons to be mad at something.

Ive turned down a job offer before. Am I unprofessional?

pfft..

later.

Nope, you did what is best for yourself.

[TWard]

Tward right now..



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Nope. I’m actually relieved. I don’t want somebody who’s heart isn’t in it coaching my team.

[TheVolta]

You sayin' he pulled a Belichick?

This 100%
I'm surprised no one has mentioned that Belichick did the same thing to the Jets

While I understand why he would rather stay put with an already great team, this is a POS move. Reminds me of the DeAndre Jordan to Dallas fiasco.

[NeedChapmans]

Honestly this is really unprofessional. What happens to the assistants he "hired", they're just hung out to dry

Very much agree. Hired assistants, scheduled press conferences, accepted the job ... how can a guy who already failed as a head coach pull this move?

Awful.

[Cavaliercards]

Very much agree. Hired assistants, scheduled press conferences, accepted the job ... how can a guy who already failed as a head coach pull this move?

Awful.

Same way you could if you got offered a better deal in life.

[TWard]

This 100%
I'm surprised no one has mentioned that Belichick did the same thing to the Jets

While I understand why he would rather stay put with an already great team, this is a POS move. Reminds me of the DeAndre Jordan to Dallas fiasco.


Yep.

Very much agree. Hired assistants, scheduled press conferences, accepted the job ... how can a guy who already failed as a head coach pull this move?



Awful.


Yep.

[chutneyfactory]

Whenever a Pats fan wonders why everyone hates the team, please refer to this incredibly childish move.

Absolutely would not put it past them to have planned this all along.

[TWard]

Whenever a Pats fan wonders why everyone hates the team, please refer to this incredibly childish move.

Absolutely would not put it past them to have planned this all along.


Yep...

[Siberian13]

Whenever a Pats fan wonders why everyone hates the team, please refer to this incredibly childish move.

Absolutely would not put it past them to have planned this all along.

You think the team planned this? You high my friend?

[Bassplayah101]

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[TWard]

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I’m actually laughing right now because I find this situation so funny. Just the Patriots being the Patriots.

[SaveMeTheGum]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVZMKZaVMAAnifW.jpg:large

Now that's funny.

[Cavaliercards]

Whenever a Pats fan wonders why everyone hates the team, please refer to this incredibly childish move.

Absolutely would not put it past them to have planned this all along.

That is some tinfoil hat stuff if I ever heard it.

He did what people do everyday in this country when their employer realizes they are about to lose them.

[jlzinck]

This was payback for DeflateGate. Firmly believe this was the Pats’ intention all along. And no one can tell me otherwise. Oh well, just gives me more reason to hate the Patriots.

How much tin foil do you own?

[TWard]

How much tin foil do you own?


Just a little bit I use for leftovers, thank you for asking.

[Siberian13]

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[Cavaliercards]

How much tin foil do you own?

Seriously and it is amusing watching Colt fans on twitter demand the NFL investigate.

NFL Looks at texts.

Hey Josh dont go to a bottom 10 team with a QB that has bad medicals, stay home and we will up your pay and promise you a HC interview.

[trixstar]

Contracts in Place and Not Signed.

Of those three

One had an expiring contract in Dallas will assume he was going to be renewed.

One was fired by Dolphins and was unemployed.

One was about to be let go by Illinois.

So what you're saying is all 3 probably stopped looking for other jobs and were incredibly excited to have a new job.

[SukiBrady12]

McDaniel realized Brady wasn’t going to the Colts with him. We saw how he failed in Denver.

It’s better to stay with the goat than get fired in a couple of years in Indy. Kraft must have not been happy with Belichick benching Butler move and the mediocre defense.

[SirTommyWinAlot]

This was payback for DeflateGate. Firmly believe this was the Pats’ intention all along. And no one can tell me otherwise. Oh well, just gives me more reason to hate the Patriots.

Patriots telling the Colts to smell the feet!

[chutneyfactory]

To anyone saying you turned down a job: youre likely not the biggest fish in a really exclusive pond. There are very few coaches that fit the bill and waiting until now, when all other talent has been hired, is insanely unprofessional.That company also likely didnt have a press release announcing your hire. Stop being silly. This is huge and has serious ramifications for the Colts specifically.

Until recently, I was highly skeptical of him anyways. I guess my initial reaction was correct. Looks like garbage, smells like garbage...

[TWard]

To anyone saying you turned down a job: youre likely not the biggest fish in a really exclusive pond. That company also likely didnt have a press release announcing your hire. Seriously, this is garbage. Until recently, I was highly skeptical of him anyways. I guess my initial reaction was correct. Looks like garbage, smells like garbage...


Nor is it usually a multi-million dollar contract for the biggest sports league in the country.

[palmetto7]

Lucks injury much worse than they are saying..gonna need another surgery...heard this a looong time ago from a top orthopedic surgeon on a sports talk show....he basically said...wait and see.....betcha thats the case

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[Siberian13]

Patriots telling the Colts to smell the feet!

Welcome back. I knew this thread would reel you back in from the super bowl loss :)

[Cavaliercards]

So what you're saying is all 3 probably stopped looking for other jobs and were incredibly excited to have a new job.

Am saying there are dozens of coaches looking for Jobs in the NFL that are unemployed and those 2-3 may have just joined them and two of them may have already planned to be unemployed this year.

Nick Saban can hire them.

[GoldPanner]

lol, there is so much immediate butthurt in this thread..

Im leaving.. You guys are all sad sallies, looking for reasons to be mad at something.

Ive turned down a job offer before. Am I unprofessional?

pfft..

later.

That’s not unprofessional, but would be was that if you accepted a job made them wait weeks have the impression to 5 under people that they were getting a job because of your hiring and then turning it down

[Cavaliercards]

To anyone saying you turned down a job: youre likely not the biggest fish in a really exclusive pond. That company also likely didnt have a press release announcing your hire. Seriously, this is garbage. Until recently, I was highly skeptical of him anyways. I guess my initial reaction was correct. Looks like garbage, smells like garbage...

Does not matter the level of the position, it happens everyday in all walks of life and just because he is a coach does not make it any different.

For all we know the Colts could have waited to show him Luck's full medical until after the playoffs.

[SirTommyWinAlot]

Welcome back. I knew this thread would reel you back in from the super bowl loss :)

This news actually made me feel better. Been down the past couple days for sure.

[Siberian13]

This news actually made me feel better. Been down the past couple days for sure.

Well the Patriots are still a team of destiny :)

[NeedChapmans]

Same way you could if you got offered a better deal in life.

Disagree. NE had all the time in the world to make him a better offer before he accepted the job, and did all of this.

The decision was made. He simply backed out.

[Gurds]

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/961045214399025152

[chutneyfactory]

You think the team planned this? You high my friend?

As I said, wouldnt put it past them = its not outside the realm of possibility.

[Cavaliercards]

Disagree. NE had all the time in the world to make him a better offer before he accepted the job, and did all of this.

The decision was made. He simply backed out.

IF they won the Super Bowl I bet the offer is not made.

Like said if your current employer offers you a better contract and better deal.

[Siberian13]

I have no idea why Colts fan would want this guy as their head coach. Maybe as their OC but not as their head coach. Maybe it all works out for the best for both teams. We shall see

[chutneyfactory]

Does not matter the level of the position, it happens everyday in all walks of life and just because he is a coach does not make it any different.

For all we know the Colts could have waited to show him Luck's full medical until after the playoffs.

You know youre wrong. Its ok.

[Lothar52]

It is what it is.... he was leaving and he got more money and assurances from people he trusts....its a free country he doesnt have to do anything and in BUSINESS its all about the all mighty signature... ie the pen is mightier then the sword!!!!

[Cavaliercards]

I have no idea why Colts fan would want this guy as their head coach. Maybe as their OC but not as their head coach. Maybe it all works out for the best for both teams. We shall see

Colts should interview Frank Reich like I said earlier. Just won a Super Bowl as OC of Philly and is a rising name.

Be glad you didnt get the guy and move on and draft a QB and turn the team around.

[Lothar52]

Kraft probably gave him a BLANK CHECK and a lifetime supply of MAC N CHEESE!!!

[Cavaliercards]

You know youre wrong. Its ok.

Actually I am right as most people will stay with better offer.

[Siberian13]

Colts should interview Frank Reich like I said earlier. Just won a Super Bowl as OC of Philly and is a rising name.

Be glad you didnt get the guy and move on and draft a QB and turn the team around.

Who calls the plays for Philly Reich or Pederson?

[88horsepower]

Colts should interview Frank Reich like I said earlier. Just won a Super Bowl as OC of Philly and is a rising name.

Be glad you didnt get the guy and move on and draft a QB and turn the team around.

Yup. If that's the kind of person McDaniels is, I don't want him around my team. He had a long time to make this decision, as did Kraft regarding getting things negotiated with him. While people can say it's his right to change his mind, which it certainly is, it doesn't change the fact that this was a truly unprofessional move on his part.

But, life goes on. The Colts will move on.

[NeedChapmans]

IF they won the Super Bowl I bet the offer is not made.

Like said if your current employer offers you a better contract and better deal.

Then both NE and McDaniels are to blame. Doesn't absolve McDainels; when you accept a new job on the terms he did, make the decisions he already made, and then decline at the last second because your currently employer sweetened the pot (whatever that means) ... it's still a really bad character move.

[NeedChapmans]

Actually I am right as most people will stay with better offer.

Absolutely not; no. And you're making a broad assumption in that NE is able to give him more than what he agreed to in IND. That's highly unlikely; outside of a promise in the future.

[Siberian13]

This is America people. Character is no longer important :)

[Cavaliercards]

Who calls the plays for Philly Reich or Pederson?

I think both gameplan through the week, actually day of I am not sure.

[roberth404]

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[chutneyfactory]

Actually I am right as most people will stay with better offer.

Last thing I'll say
Odds are on my side. Patriots staff has shown serious character flaw over and over. Have Colts?

[Cavaliercards]

Then both NE and McDaniels are to blame. Doesn't absolve McDainels; when you accept a new job on the terms he did, make the decisions he already made, and then decline at the last second because your currently employer sweetened the pot (whatever that means) ... it's still a really bad character move.

Smart move for an individual that many do everyday and their careers are fine. Have to look out for yourself and your future.

[Siberian13]

I think both gameplan through the week, actually day of I am not sure.

That doesn’t answer my question. Anyone else know the answer?

[ajlaxmn]

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[SirTommyWinAlot]

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haha. Pats trolling the Colts. What goes around comes around.

[rman112]

That doesn’t answer my question. Anyone else know the answer?

Pretty sure it's Pederson.

[Cavaliercards]

Absolutely not; no. And you're making a broad assumption in that NE is able to give him more than what he agreed to in IND. That's highly unlikely; outside of a promise in the future.

Let's say he becomes the highest paid OC and higher paid than some HCs, he might he into a territory matching or passing Indy.

What is his family situation? Did his wife change her mind about leaving NE behind?

Was he told BB is retiring in a year or two and he would be coach in waiting?

Did he get Luck's medical records as one NFL reporter is saying and change his mind?

A lot of these questions will be answered and some may not be, but no I do not fault a person doing what is best for them and their future.

[Cavaliercards]

That doesn’t answer my question. Anyone else know the answer?

:eek::eek:

[Siberian13]

Pretty sure it's Pederson.

Yeah I found an article where it said he didn’t want to give up play calling. So why the hell would you want Frank reich??

[NeedChapmans]

Smart move for an individual that many do everyday and their careers are fine. Have to look out for yourself and your future.

I agree that a man's right is to lookout for him and his family; but there is so much more to the future than the money right in front of you.

This could prove to be a smart move, it could prove to be a bad move (in terms of McDaniels future in this league). That remains undecided. What it is now ... is a dick move.

[Cavaliercards]

Last thing I'll say
Odds are on my side. Patriots staff has shown serious character flaw over and over. Have Colts?

Their owner has shown many character flaws, so to answer your question yes. I do not see accepting a better offer from your current employer a flaw.

[rman112]

Yeah I found an article where it said he didn’t want to give up play calling. So why the hell would you want Frank reich??

They seem to have a lot of offensive talent on the coaching side. Hell, John Defilippo, who's their QB coach and under Reich, got two interviews for the Cards HC spot.

[Siberian13]

Let's say he becomes the highest paid OC and higher paid than some HCs, he might he into a territory matching or passing Indy.

What is his family situation? Did his wife change her mind about leaving NE behind?

Was he told BB is retiring in a year or two and he would be coach in waiting?

Did he get Luck's medical records as one NFL reporter is saying and change his mind?

A lot of these questions will be answered and some may not be, but no I do not fault a person doing what is best for them and their future.

this one is not important at all :)

[Cavaliercards]

I agree that a man's right is to lookout for him and his family; but there is so much more to the future than the money right in front of you.

This could prove to be a smart move, it could prove to be a bad move (in terms of McDaniels future in this league). That remains undecided. What it is now ... is a dick move.

All he has to do is say in the next interview he does outside of New England that the Colts information on Luck's shoulder concerned him and as many reporters have said he was not given full information until after the Super Bowl per NFL Rules (coaches of teams can interview but are not supposed to be given certain documents until their teams are eliminated). Explains that whole situation quickly whether it is right or wrong.

[Cavaliercards]

this one is not important at all :)

Should be important to everyone to ask their Spouse's opinion.

[rman112]

Should be important to everyone to ask their Spouse's opinion.

So if the guy supposedly accepted the job, then his wife changed her mind and he backed out, that's fine?

C'mon now.

[Siberian13]

So if the guy supposedly accepted the job, then his wife changed her mind and he backed out, that's fine?

C'mon now.

She didn’t like the schools :)

[Siberian13]

They seem to have a lot of offensive talent on the coaching side. Hell, John Defilippo, who's their QB coach and under Reich, got two interviews for the Cards HC spot.

Wasn’t Reich fired by the chargers though?

[Cavaliercards]

So if the guy supposedly accepted the job, then his wife changed her mind and he backed out, that's fine?

C'mon now.

Family is more important than a job, so yes if someone changes their mind on a job because how it will impact their family I am not going to blame them.

[NeedChapmans]

All he has to do is say in the next interview he does outside of New England that the Colts information on Luck's shoulder concerned him and as many reporters have said he was not given full information until after the Super Bowl per NFL Rules (coaches of teams can interview but are not supposed to be given certain documents until their teams are eliminated). Explains that whole situation quickly whether it is right or wrong.

I don't want to go down this road with you now; you're suggesting the guy lie to absolve himself if the situation presents itself. I believe your initial argument was much stronger ... just doing what you think is best for you and yours.

And again, I have no argument against that; only to say that doing what's best for you at the expense of others is simply not right. If his decision now costs the assistant coaching staffs their jobs; and/or other people in Indianapolis are negatively effected as a result of this decision (which I'm sure they are) ... then it's a very bad, selfish decision.

[rman112]

Wasn’t Reich fired by the chargers though?

Yep, looks like it. I never really heard of him as a coach until recently.

[Cavaliercards]

Colts have said the assistant that they agreed in principle to take deals will be on the new coach's staff. No one lost a job or an opportunity.

[NeedChapmans]

Colts have said the assistant that they agreed in principle to take deals will be on the new coach's staff. No one lost a job or an opportunity.

And McDaniels said he's the new Colts head coach.

We'll see what happens. New coach may want a new staff.

[Siberian13]

Family is more important than a job, so yes if someone changes their mind on a job because how it will impact their family I am not going to blame them.

Maybe if you’re manager of Home Depot and they ask you to relocate. Haha

[Cavaliercards]

I don't want to go down this road with you now; you're suggesting the guy lie to absolve himself if the situation presents itself. I believe your initial argument was much stronger ... just doing what you think is best for you and yours.

And again, I have no argument against that; only to say that doing what's best for you at the expense of others is simply not right. If his decision now costs the assistant coaching staffs their jobs; and/or other people in Indianapolis are negatively effected as a result of this decision (which I'm sure they are) ... then it's a very bad, selfish decision.

Am not saying lie at all. Am saying per NFL rules, McDaniels could not be privy to information, there is one Colts writer saying McDaniels got the data dump yesterday and today and had been offered by Kraft more last week. He gets the dump and sorts through it and sees things he could not see while he was an "active coach" he has a valid reason if that is the case.

Colts announced no one lost their jobs.

[Gurds]

Colts will hire Jack Del Rio

[Cavaliercards]

Maybe if you’re manager of Home Depot and they ask you to relocate. Haha

Nope, for any job.

[Cavaliercards]

Colts will hire Jack Del Rio

Would be a great hire to help them get back to better Defense.

[Siberian13]

Nope, for any job.

Nope, home depot

[Cavaliercards]

And McDaniels said he's the new Colts head coach.

We'll see what happens. New coach may want a new staff.

Colts have told league offices and the new guys their contracts are in place and they are Colts coaches. Contracts are being executed, so either the guys are coaching and getting paid or getting paid and getting a year off with the family. Either way they did not lose out.

[Cavaliercards]

Nope, home depot

Any job, but thanks for trying.

[NeedChapmans]

Am not saying lie at all. Am saying per NFL rules, McDaniels could not be privy to information, there is one Colts writer saying McDaniels got the data dump yesterday and today and had been offered by Kraft more last week. He gets the dump and sorts through it and sees things he could not see while he was an "active coach" he has a valid reason if that is the case.

Colts announced no one lost their jobs.

Meh; again you're making broad assumptions. We know McDaniels accepted the position, hired staff, scheduled press conferences, was announced by the Colts as their new head coach, then changed his mind.

Beyond that, we know nothing.

[Siberian13]

Any job, but thanks for trying.

You’re wrong but you tried really hard. :)

[Cavaliercards]

Meh; again you're making broad assumptions. We know McDaniels accepted the position, hired staff, scheduled press conferences, was announced by the Colts as their new head coach, then changed his mind.

Beyond that, we know nothing.

Not making assumptions at all, per league rules he was not able to look at medicals, financials, and other specific documents until he signs his contract as part of being an active coach of another team. All he has to say to another team in 10-15 years is I took a better offer or say hey I got the data dump and you guys saw how Luck's career ended.

[majestik101]

Just saw this. Makes all the sense in the world. Why leave the Pats for a busted up QB and a loony tunes coked up owner when he can continue working for the GOAT.

[Siberian13]

Just saw this. Makes all the sense in the world. Why leave the Pats for a busted up QB and a loony tunes coked up owner when he can continue working for the GOAT.

He already knew this before accepting the job

[NeedChapmans]

Not making assumptions at all, per league rules he was not able to look at medicals, financials, and other specific documents until he signs his contract as part of being an active coach of another team. All he has to say to another team in 10-15 years is I took a better offer or say hey I got the data dump and you guys saw how Luck's career ended.

Assumption - a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof.

What are you talking about? How did Luck's career end?

[Tones]

In all honesty, I was more upset with Josh McDaniels leaving the Patriots than losing the super bowl, so for that I thank you. He is the future head coach of this franchise and the team would not be as good next year is he left, hands down. So happy.

[Cavaliercards]

Assumption - a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof.


Am saying how he could answer the question, since we are looking at how "teams won't like this years down the road" that is an assumption as well.

He got the data dump (that is a fact) and that gives him the ability to answer the question in an honest manner.

[rman112]

Am saying how he could answer the question, since we are looking at how "teams won't like this years down the road" that is an assumption as well.

He got the data dump and that gives him the ability to answer the question in an honest manner.

So why did he not take the job? His wife? Pay bump from Pats? Colts ownership? Luck? Cold feet? Just changed his mind?

[Cavaliercards]

So why did he not take the job? His wife? Pay bump from Pats? Colts ownership? Luck? Cold feet? Just changed his mind?

Like I said above we will get answers on some of those in the future and some we will not.

No matter the reason, he did what he felt is best for his career.

[Siberian13]

I’m going with wife, final answer. :)

[lionsfan20]

Good to see that all it took was a little Colts trolling to bring back all the Pats fans that disappeared mysteriously sometime last Sunday.[emoji849][emoji849]

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[NeedChapmans]

Am saying how he could answer the question, since we are looking at how "teams won't like this years down the road" that is an assumption as well.

He got the data dump and that gives him the ability to answer the question in an honest manner.

I don't know what's happening here. You went from saying that it's OK for a guy to get what he can get, to providing a 15 year look down the road during a hypothetical McDaniels interview where he's asked why he didn't take the job, and points to Luck's medicals.

As if you know Luck won't come back healthy next year; and his career is over.

OK.

[SukiBrady12]

He already knew this before accepting the job

He didn’t know Belichick is on way out after the Butler benching. He’ll be out of a job in a couple years when Brady retires.

[Siberian13]

Good to see that all it took was a little Colts trolling to bring all the Pats fans that disappeared mysteriously sometime last Sunday.[emoji849][emoji849]

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It’s like BO is one big happy family again. It feels all warm and fuzzy :)

[Cavaliercards]

Good to see that all it took was a little Colts trolling to bring all the Pats fans that disappeared mysteriously sometime last Sunday.[emoji849][emoji849]

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Bad week for fans of both teams, IMO.

At least they didnt sign Alex Smith to an awful extension

[Cavaliercards]

I don't know what's happening here. You went from saying that it's OK for a guy to get what he can get, to providing a 15 year look down the road during a hypothetical McDaniels interview where he's asked why he didn't take the job, and points to Luck's medicals.

As if you know Luck won't come back healthy next year; and his career is over.

OK.

Am saying that above all else it is ok to change your mind.

I responded to the hypothetical question of how he would explain this to other teams and that was by being honest.

[Siberian13]

He didn’t know Belichick is on way out after the Butler benching. He’ll be out of a job in a couple years when Brady retires.

Can you show a link to this info please? I need sources :)

[NeedChapmans]

Am saying that above all else it is ok to change your mind.

I responded to the question of how he would explain this to other teams and that was by being honest. He got the data dump and can bring that up and be honest and also talk about how it was a better offer.

I never asked you such a question. Stop saying DATA DUMP!

[lionsfan20]

It’s like BO is one big happy family again. It feels all warm and fuzzy :)Lol i knew it would happen just not so quickly.

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[Cavaliercards]

I never asked you such a question. Stop saying DATA DUMP!

Then I apologize saying you did, someone else did and wrongly assumed it was you. Glad McDaniels did what he felt was best for himself and his career.

[SukiBrady12]

Can you show a link to this info please? I need sources :)

Adam Schefter and I are working on it right now. Stay tuned.

[Siberian13]

Adam Schefter and I are working on it right now. Stay tuned.

So you have nothing, again :).

[jasonm2121]

This is so great.

[blackbears86]

Good for Mcdaniels and great for the Pats!!!!

[TheVolta]

Stop saying DATA DUMP!

Made me laugh out loud.

[Cavaliercards]

This is so great.

Can your QB please just get a 6th QB, so all will be revealed.

[Cavaliercards]

Where is Wikileaks when ya need it.

[SukiBrady12]

So you have nothing, again :).

See my last post. We have it on ESPN. :)!

[Siberian13]

See my last post. We have it on ESPN. :)!

Working on it doesn’t count. We need facts. Opinions like that and about wives changing their minds won’t fly :)

[SukiBrady12]

Working on it doesn’t count. We need facts. Opinions like that and about wives changing their minds won’t fly :)

Go see my post in Butler thread. Schefter is working on the source right now for McDaniels. It will be on espn.com

[Cavaliercards]

FWIW: On Sunday, ESPN's @mortreport reported there still are doctors who have concerns about Andrew Luck's shoulder and whether he could wind up needing additional surgery.

Ruh-Roh Shaggy

[Bassplayah101]

Indi must be so deflated by this news.

[Siberian13]

Go see my post in Butler thread. Schefter is working on the source right now for McDaniels. It will be on espn.com

Facts please :)

[NeedChapmans]

Then I apologize saying you did, someone else did and wrongly assumed it was you. Glad McDaniels did what he felt was best for himself and his career.

Very good. Thanks for the quick replies, I had fun.

[Cavaliercards]

Indi must be so deflated by this news.

High Five!!!

[Siberian13]

FWIW: On Sunday, ESPN's @mortreport reported there still are doctors who have concerns about Andrew Luck's shoulder and whether he could wind up needing additional surgery.

Ruh-Roh Shaggy

Now this sounds more reasonable than your wife story. :)

[Cavaliercards]

Very good. Thanks for the quick replies, I had fun.

Same here :)

Got distracted as I am moderating another forum, on here, Twitter, and two other places at once, so I just read another reply as yours.

[SukiBrady12]

FWIW: On Sunday, ESPN's @mortreport reported there still are doctors who have concerns about Andrew Luck's shoulder and whether he could wind up needing additional surgery.

Ruh-Roh Shaggy

Excellent reporting. So McDaniel has no hope for Jacoby Brissett. I thought he was a franchise QB if Luck is a no go?

[majestik101]

Colts and Pats fans:

https://media.giphy.com/media/10mL1KJdolxfUI/giphy.gif

[Bassplayah101]

To anyone saying you turned down a job: youre likely not the biggest fish in a really exclusive pond. There are very few coaches that fit the bill and waiting until now, when all other talent has been hired, is insanely unprofessional.That company also likely didnt have a press release announcing your hire. Stop being silly. This is huge and has serious ramifications for the Colts specifically.

Until recently, I was highly skeptical of him anyways. I guess my initial reaction was correct. Looks like garbage, smells like garbage...

Disagree. NE had all the time in the world to make him a better offer before he accepted the job, and did all of this.

The decision was made. He simply backed out.

As I said, wouldnt put it past them = its not outside the realm of possibility.

Yup. If that's the kind of person McDaniels is, I don't want him around my team. He had a long time to make this decision, as did Kraft regarding getting things negotiated with him. While people can say it's his right to change his mind, which it certainly is, it doesn't change the fact that this was a truly unprofessional move on his part.

But, life goes on. The Colts will move on.

Then both NE and McDaniels are to blame. Doesn't absolve McDainels; when you accept a new job on the terms he did, make the decisions he already made, and then decline at the last second because your currently employer sweetened the pot (whatever that means) ... it's still a really bad character move.

Last thing I'll say
Odds are on my side. Patriots staff has shown serious character flaw over and over. Have Colts?

I don't want to go down this road with you now; you're suggesting the guy lie to absolve himself if the situation presents itself. I believe your initial argument was much stronger ... just doing what you think is best for you and yours.

And again, I have no argument against that; only to say that doing what's best for you at the expense of others is simply not right. If his decision now costs the assistant coaching staffs their jobs; and/or other people in Indianapolis are negatively effected as a result of this decision (which I'm sure they are) ... then it's a very bad, selfish decision.

Meh; again you're making broad assumptions. We know McDaniels accepted the position, hired staff, scheduled press conferences, was announced by the Colts as their new head coach, then changed his mind.

Beyond that, we know nothing.

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[GrangerCollectr]

Colts dodged a bullet....a man with no integrity cannot possibly be a great leader :coffee:

[Cavaliercards]

Excellent reporting. So McDaniel has no hope for Jacoby Brissett. I thought he was a franchise QB if Luck is a no go?

You say that when you are trying to trade a player.

[coltsnsox07]

The dude's offense just put up 600 yards and lost a gutwrencher of a Super Bowl, can't blame him for being all discombobulated in his thinking.
600 yards and lost!.......

[jasonm2121]

Can your QB please just get a 6th QB, so all will be revealed.

He is only one man, to expect him to get 4 more QBs for his team is a lot to ask!

[Cavaliercards]

He is only one man, to expect him to get 4 more QBs for his team is a lot to ask!

6th Ring haha

[ck6599]

This thread is pure gold.........lots of crazy talk. Good for McDaniels, boohoo Colts and your fans. Maybe he had a change of heart, maybe he got more $, maybe Belichick is done next year.....or now, maybe it was payback for Deflategate. I don't really care, if it screws the Colts and their nutbag owner...........hahahahahahaha

[roberth404]

Love this quote:

"He (Jim Irsay) started last offseason by assuring fans that they should buy Colts tickets because Andrew Luck would be ready for Week One. He started this offseason by announcing he hired Josh McDaniels. He looks like a fool."

[HBMC]

Bottom 10 Team, getting Bottom 10 Treatment.

In the bottom division of Football. Let's not lose our cognitive facilities and pretend that the Texans, Titans and Jags are unassailable fortresses.

@AllbrightNFL Dave Toub is the Colts plan B

That would be a great hire, Toub is a great coach IMO.

Not a colts fan but hope this doesn't mean Luck is done. I've been a fan of his since Stanford m

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I agree, as someone who has some of his cards (not investing, I appreciated what he was capable of at Stanford too) and want him to succeed, I really want his shoulder to be good. The NFL is better with another good young QB.

Honestly this is really unprofessional. What happens to the assistants he "hired", they're just hung out to dry

Matt Eberflus is a good coach, he should be a DC.

This 100%
I'm surprised no one has mentioned that Belichick did the same thing to the Jets

While I understand why he would rather stay put with an already great team, this is a POS move. Reminds me of the DeAndre Jordan to Dallas fiasco.

Very reminiscent of the Jordan situation. McDaniels sounds scared to struggle. The Colts are built to re-build quickly, Top 3 pick with one in every round and a decent contingency plan at QB in Brissett and a few good weapons on offense. It's not like they were killed 85-0 every week.

What kind of coach doesn't want the opportunity to build their own legacy? A beta male, that's who. Scared coaches don't make good coaches.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVZMKZaVMAAnifW.jpg:large

That is hilarious.

Then both NE and McDaniels are to blame. Doesn't absolve McDainels; when you accept a new job on the terms he did, make the decisions he already made, and then decline at the last second because your currently employer sweetened the pot (whatever that means) ... it's still a really bad character move.

Negotiating in bad faith (which is exactly what this looks like), irrespective of circumstances, is a terrible look. If he didn't sign the contract and decided to retain his role without extra guarantees, I wouldn't care. If the above is true, I bet he doesn't get a good offer next time.

Colts will hire Jack Del Rio

After what he did to Derek Carr? Hell. No.

[jjeanius]

The Butler thread makes me sad. This thread makes me HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY!!!!!

Two to three more years of B&B, and time to find and groom Brady’s successor. Another ring (or two!) and they both ride off into the sunset together while also stocking the cupboard on the way out. ;)

LOVE IT!!!!!!!!

[Cavaliercards]

The Butler thread makes me sad. This thread makes me HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY!!!!!

Two to three more years of B&B, and time to find and groom Brady’s successor. Another ring (or two!) and they both ride off into the sunset together while also stocking the cupboard on the way out. ;)

LOVE IT!!!!!!!!

So Happy Together!!!

[Jericho]

Colts dodged a bullet....a man with no integrity cannot possibly be a great leader :coffee:

Agree with this.

[coltsnsox07]

What's the big deal about this guy? He's 11-17 as a coach and has a lot of shady $hit surrounding him in his past. He's also got that kinda weaselly punch me face..

[Cavaliercards]

What's the big deal about this guy? He's 11-17 as a coach and has a lot of shady $hit surrounding him in his past. He's also got that kinda weaselly punch me face..

No big deal, everyone on both sides should be happy and move on to draft season. :D:D

Maybe Colts can trade for Alex Smith :(

[ucLAkers]

Peyton Manning should step up.....


















.....and make a commercial about this.

[Cavaliercards]

Peyton Manning should step up.....


















.....and make a commercial about this.

With himself interviewing to be HC, I like it.

[SukiBrady12]

Facts please :)

We’re having fun but in case you missed it, Schefter came through at 8:42 pm central time.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22349872/josh-mcdaniels-spurns-indianapolis-colts-remain-new-england-patriots

[ntgm37]

lol, there is so much immediate butthurt in this thread..

Im leaving.. You guys are all sad sallies, looking for reasons to be mad at something.

Ive turned down a job offer before. Am I unprofessional?

pfft..

later.

Blowoutforums (Anti-Patriot) Member base

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Indi must be so deflated by this news.


I wish people would just stop saying "I'm leaving" or "im out". None of you EVER do it. Pathetic.

[Cavaliercards]

Here you go from ESPN:

McDaniels was trying to get comfortable with the idea of taking his family out of New England and moving to Indianapolis, sources said.

Throughout the process, McDaniels had emphasized to the Colts that he would need time to mull the decision and discuss it with his family. The more McDaniels reflected on potentially having the opportunity to coach the Colts, the more it did not feel right to him and the better it felt to remain in New England. McDaniels still would like to become a head coach again, but this time, in this instance, he was not comfortable.

McDaniels has done this the night before he was scheduled to be introduced by the Colts; but he was not comfortable making the jump, neither for him nor his family.

[Siberian13]

We’re having fun but in case you missed it, Schefter came through at 8:42 pm central time.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22349872/josh-mcdaniels-spurns-indianapolis-colts-remain-new-england-patriots

Can you just list the facts please. Can’t read too good.

[Siberian13]

McDaniels was trying to get comfortable with the idea of taking his family out of New England and moving to Indianapolis, sources said.

Throughout the process, McDaniels had emphasized to the Colts that he would need time to mull the decision and discuss it with his family. The more McDaniels reflected on potentially having the opportunity to coach the Colts, the more it did not feel right to him and the better it felt to remain in New England. McDaniels still would like to become a head coach again, but this time, in this instance, he was not comfortable.

As BNut would say, who are these sources? :)

[kyle1707]

Sorry did not read whole thread if this was discussed

Sure feels bill is almost done. And they want McDaniel to be next coach

[Siberian13]

Sorry did not read whole thread if this was discussed

Sure feels bill is almost done. And they want McDaniel to be next coach

Bill already checked out and retired during the super bowl. It was covered in the Malcolm butler thread.

[SukiBrady12]

Can you just list the facts please. Can’t read too good.

I can’t help you there. Lol

[Siberian13]

I can’t help you there. Lol

So no facts. Gotcha

[SukiBrady12]

So no facts. Gotcha

I thought you can’t read. Haha.

[GoldPanner]

I love how the patriots fans are acting as if they didn’t just lose the Super Bowl and are already doing their superiority act

[BostonNut]

I love how the patriots fans are acting as if they didn’t just lose the Super Bowl and are already doing their superiority act

The Bruins and Celtics are killing it....so....we've got that going for us. :flex:

[Cavaliercards]

The Bruins and Celtics are killing it....so....we've got that going for us. :flex:

I am not even a Patriots fan and even I know they are more superior than the Colts.

[GoldPanner]

I am not even a Patriots fan and even I know they are more superior than the Colts.

I think everyone in the world knows that

[88horsepower]

Dianna Russini (@diannaESPN)
35 mins ago - View on Twitter
Spoke with several members of what was supposed to be McDaniels’ Indy coaching staff. They have not heard from Josh McDaniels regarding the change of heart. Just as blindsided as the rest of us. #Colts

[Siberian13]

I thought you can’t read. Haha.

Please list your facts and I will give it a shot :)

[boston12]

Oh man what an article.... the only thing to make me smile over the last 48 hours. Gotta love Gregg Doyle. https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/columnists/gregg-doyel/2018/02/06/doyel-josh-mcdaniels-selfish-little-jerk-but-did-colts-indy-favor/304619002/

[BostonNut]

Oh man what an article.... the only thing to make me smile over the last 48 hours. Gotta love Gregg Doyle. https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/columnists/gregg-doyel/2018/02/06/doyel-josh-mcdaniels-selfish-little-jerk-but-did-colts-indy-favor/304619002/

Hahahaha.....love that the Patriots make people this crazy.:D. This article was a nice pick me up from the Super Bowl.

[SukiBrady12]

Please list your facts and I will give it a shot :)

Go read post #218 in Butler thread. If you still can’t read then Hooked on Phonics.

[Siberian13]

Go read post #218 in Butler thread. If you still can’t read then Hooked on Phonics.

Please list the facts here about your thoughts here. That helps the most. :)

[jasonm2121]

So who will the Colts get? Schwartz and Foles?!

[HBMC]

I am not even a Patriots fan and even I know they are more superior than the Colts.

This just in, the Sun is hot.

If you still can’t read then Hooked on Phonics.

Not much of a burn when your grammar is just as poor.

[Cavaliercards]

This just in, the Sun is hot.



Not much of a burn when your grammar is just as poor.

Glad you realize the sun is hot, I know it can be confusing.

[HBMC]

Glad you realize the sun is hot, I know it can be confusing.

I was making a joke lol.

[Cavaliercards]

I was making a joke lol.

As was I :)!

[Siberian13]

http://i.imgur.com/h4IcukI.gif

[Morgoth]

So did anyone think that any head coaching era of McDaniels wouldn't end in disgrace and controversy.

That article was 100% correct about McDaniels

Also for folks thinking it is ok to back out of jobs 1 day before you are supposed to take them, well some industries are very small and word gets around. Getting that kind of reputation is a really bad thing. I have had multiple candidates for jobs that once we talked to other recruiters, HR departments, old managers etc. we eliminated them from consideration due to pulling stunts like that.

[BostonNut]

So did anyone think that any head coaching era of McDaniels wouldn't end in disgrace and controversy.

That article was 100% correct about McDaniels

Also for folks thinking it is ok to back out of jobs 1 day before you are supposed to take them, well some industries are very small and word gets around. Getting that kind of reputation is a really bad thing. I have had multiple candidates for jobs that once we talked to other recruiters, HR departments, old managers etc. we eliminated them from consideration due to pulling stunts like that.

Do you also work in a multi billion dollar industry?

[Morgoth]

Do you also work in a multi billion dollar industry?

yes I do

[SukiBrady12]

As was I :)!

Look at what you have started Cavaliercards. Now we’re talking about grammar, facts and jokes and not about McDaniels. :)! Lol

[Siberian13]

Do you also work in a multi billion dollar industry?

Doesn’t matter the industry. They are all equal from what I’ve read.

[BostonNut]

yes I do

Very impressive!

[Morgoth]

Very impressive!

In the industry I work in, one company I worked for is worth about 250 billion so yeah.

[BostonNut]

In the industry I work in, one company I worked for is worth about 250 billion so yeah.

You're a better man than I.

[Cavaliercards]

You're a better man than I.

Not that hard to be. Good employees will have no issue being recruited by companies even if they changed their mind, especially one time like Josh McDaniels.

[norskarv]

This just in, the Sun is hot.

This is fake news propogated by the liberal media. Hot sun scientists have been faking their data for decades.

[BostonNut]

It is now being reported that the decision came down to family and not $$$$$.

Good for McDaniels for putting loved ones ahead of the Almighty dollar. Sign of a good man right there.

[chutneyfactory]

He agreed to terms. Your word is your bond and his is worth zero.

Bullet dodged. He cant win without Papa Bill and TB12

[Samiamryan]

In the industry I work in, one company I worked for is worth about 250 billion so yeah.

Walmart?

[Cavaliercards]

It is now being reported that the decision came down to family and not $$$$$.

Good for McDaniels for putting loved ones ahead of the Almighty dollar. Sign of a good man right there.

No matter the reason. He did the right thing for himself and there is nothing wrong with a person changing their mind.

[Morgoth]

Not that hard to be. Good employees will have no issue being recruited by companies even if they changed their mind, especially one time like Josh McDaniels.

Good employee is a term never uttered by companies I have worked with. Its about results and the value they bring to the companies. In this case based on his past accomplishments as a HC, McDaniels is sorely missing in results.

[Morgoth]

Walmart?

No I work in the food industry, but Wal Mart is one of our customers!

I worked for Nestle which is the largest food company in the world.

[Cavaliercards]

Good employee is a term never uttered by companies I have worked with. Its about results and the value they bring to the companies. In this case based on his past accomplishments as a HC, McDaniels is sorely missing in results.

Bill failed as a HC with the Browns, I think he has done well for himself.

Pete Carroll was ok with Patriots, now he is pretty good with Seahawks.

List can go on and on about coaches that have done well after doing poorly the first job.

His results as a Senior VP are pretty good and if you work for a results and value company you would want Senior VPs like him.


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