And this is why I never sell here and I'm thinking of getting out of cards

[Onepocketj]

I posted a Brady Chrome BGS 9 here on Saturday for $700. A guy offered me $650 and I declined. I also said "don't worry, if they lose tomorrow I'm sure they will be all over ebay at that price." He responded back with how about $675? I had my eye on a couple cards so said why not and sold it. Shipped it Monday and he got it on Friday. Of course he filed a dispute today saying not as described because the prices on them went down this week.

I am so pissed off right now. I can't stand people whose word is worthless.

[Siberian13]

Look at the bright side. It should go up in value again and you can make more money.

[Onepocketj]

Look at the bright side. It should go up in value again and you can make more money.

How do I retract feedback from a buyer?

[rman112]

Tell him to take the whole slab and shove it up his bunghole.. after he cancels the dispute, of course!

[Birdmandig]

Tell him to take the whole slab and shove it up his bunghole.. after he cancels the dispute, of course!

https://media0.giphy.com/media/NFr7RfvFEp0Sk/giphy.gif

[glen87]

I posted a Brady Chrome BGS 9 here on Saturday for $700. A guy offered me $650 and I declined. I also said "don't worry, if they lose tomorrow I'm sure they will be all over ebay at that price." He responded back with how about $675? I had my eye on a couple cards so said why not and sold it. Shipped it Monday and he got it on Friday. Of course he filed a dispute today saying not as described because the prices on them went down this week.

I am so pissed off right now. I can't stand people whose word is worthless.

How do I retract feedback from a buyer?

report it, who is the buyer?

[jlzinck]

Notify a mod with the lowlifes name

[Onepocketj]

report it, who is the buyer?

Buyer is Briangreenburg

What do I do to report it?

[dacaptain37]

Buyer is Briangreenburg

What do I do to report it?

yeah that same guy tried to offer me 2500 on a 3000 dollar lot which was under ebay as is when i posted... then he comes back a week and a half later when brady's prices were through the roof and says "oh i'll take this brady chrome now."

Glad I didn't waste my time with this guy... should be banned

[Jay9Suited]

What a POS. I would not accept a return. Sorry OP, buyer should be banned.

[rman112]

Buyer is Briangreenburg


https://www.blowoutforums.com/member.php?u=60048

Weak..

[Cavaliercards]

Did he offer what wasn’t as described?

[Onepocketj]

Did he offer what wasn’t as described?

No. Just got an email about the dispute from Paypal. Just said "item not as described" for his reason. How can a graded card with a picture of it posted not be as described?

[twisty571]

No. Just got an email about the dispute from Paypal. Just said "item not as described" for his reason. How can a graded card with a picture of it posted not be as described?

Exactly!

[Kingofkings1281]

That’s why I’m really careful about who I deal with on here. Guys like this shouldn’t be allowed to buy and sell here.

[twisty571]

Wonder why he hasn't bothered to reply? He is online and has to see this thread?

[goodole13]

No. Just got an email about the dispute from Paypal. Just said "item not as described" for his reason. How can a graded card with a picture of it posted not be as described?

This was my first thought. What is not described? Normally, graded cards help prevent this type of stuff. You know exactly what you're getting. I'm curious to know what he says is "not as described."

[Onepocketj]

This was my first thought. What is not described? Normally, graded cards help prevent this type of stuff. You know exactly what you're getting. I'm curious to know what he says is "not as described."

His dispute says "not completely satisfied after inspecting the card".
Yeah, ok

[goodole13]

His dispute says "not completely satisfied after inspecting the card".
Yeah, ok

Ha! That is ridiculous. I'm sorry you have to deal with this.

[Siberian13]

Maybe he thought he could get it bumped to 9.5 for some reason? Not sure how a return can be accepted like that if it’s graded. Just sad.

https://i.imgur.com/GThgXoih.jpg

[Onepocketj]

The worst part is that I even said he would be able to get it cheaper on Monday if the Patriots lost. He also said he only had $650 in his Paypal account. When I turned down that offer he came back with $675. I should have known his character then.

[goodole13]

Personally, based on that picture, I would have asked for better and more clear pictures. However, that's on the buyer if he didn't do that.

[Siberian13]

Personally, based on that picture, I would have asked for better and more clear pictures. However, that's on the buyer if he didn't do that.

True but it’s still graded and you know you’re getting a 9.

[goodole13]

True but it’s still graded and you know you’re getting a 9.

Absolutely. The whole buy the card, not the grade, comes into play.

[Onepocketj]

Personally, based on that picture, I would have asked for better and more clear pictures. However, that's on the buyer if he didn't do that.

I had plenty of pictures I could have sent. He never asked for any.

[OBryan]

That’s the stuff you’d expect on EBay, not here. Gambled on the Pats winning and then decided to cancel his bet afterwards

[Siberian13]

Just like the patriots in the super bowl, this guy has no defense.

[packman80]

So is that something Admin's will give him chance to give his side over and if he does not or gives weak excuse would they ban him from boards?

[Jay9Suited]

So is that something Admin's will give him chance to give his side over and if he does not or gives weak excuse would they ban him from boards?

unfortunately not. i had the same experience with a 10k card last year.. mods removed the feedback i left but the member is still roaming the boards.

[Onepocketj]

So is that something Admin's will give him chance to give his side over and if he does not or gives weak excuse would they ban him from boards?

I hope so. If not I will just message the seller every time time he tries to buy something here...

[MFaulkCollector]

His dispute says "not completely satisfied after inspecting the card".
Yeah, ok

he could have said the holder smelled like a dog fart and got a refund............ the returns process is a joke and honestly would be way too complicated to do it any other way than the way it is.

you can buy stuff for tiny fractions online of what you could at shows before the internet.... the internet is a great thing but with it and online shopping comes this garbage

i honestly have no idea on how to prevent it other than dealing with x amount if feedback people with so many forum posts per day or week. even then that doesn't help with ebay selling at all

[TheVolta]

This is ridiculous. I'd honestly like to know his name and address so if he ever tries to buy under another username we know it's him.

[Siberian13]

unfortunately not. i had the same experience with a 10k card last year.. mods removed the feedback i left but the member is still roaming the boards.

Can we get the juicy details and who the member is?

[twisty571]

Just like the patriots in the super bowl, this guy has no defense.

https://media.giphy.com/media/D8JFNtJe4nU2s/giphy.gif

[dacaptain37]

unfortunately not. i had the same experience with a 10k card last year.. mods removed the feedback i left but the member is still roaming the boards.

hmmmmmmm now I'm real curious about this one too:eek:

[a-train10]

What a tool. Sorry to hear that OP.

[gorillaz]

unfortunately not. i had the same experience with a 10k card last year.. mods removed the feedback i left but the member is still roaming the boards.

:eek::eek::eek:

TELL US TELL US

[MFaulkCollector]

don't let it affect your hobby status though..... just deal with your usual members who post all the time and have at least 40-50 feedbacks over a span of at least 6 months or more

[Onepocketj]

This is ridiculous. I'd honestly like to know his name and address so if he ever tries to buy under another username we know it's him.

I wish I could post it but I'm sure I'm not allowed. Karma is a wonderful thing though. Wouldn't surprise me at all if his taxes got audited this year...

[gorillaz]

:eek::eek::eek:

TELL US TELL US
I was wrong.

[Onepocketj]

He's online. Wonder why he won't respond to this or my pm asking what the issue was?

[Stifle]

I'm with the other member who believes this Non-payer attempted to sell the card at a profit if the Patriots would win. Just make sure you receive the same graded card that you sent him. Sometimes the best deals are the ones that don't go through.

[Siberian13]

He's online. Wonder why he won't respond to this or my pm asking what the issue was?

He’s doing his best Josh McDaniels impersonation :)

[Gigantor]

He’s doing his best Josh McDaniels impersonation :)

https://media1.tenor.com/images/6b9a8f6e786326838f8f8a4a65a0ddd2/tenor.gif

[Jay9Suited]

Can we get the juicy details and who the member is?

hmmmmmmm now I'm real curious about this one too:eek:

:eek::eek::eek:

TELL US TELL US

Member: NYFAN2014

Card: 1984-85 Star Michael Jordan #101 XRC BGS 8.5 (Subs I believe were: 8.5/9.5/7.5/9.5)

Price: $9350

Buyer received card, messaged me saying they received it and wanted me to create a thread so we could exchange feedback and also asked me if I had any other 8.5's for sale. A few days later I received a PM asking about the edges and why they received a 7.5 from BGS.. A few days after that I received an email from PayPal that a "not as described claim was opened. I fought it and obviously lost. Only reason I sold the card was to help raise funds for a down payment on a home.. buyer was even aware of that.. put me in a tough spot for sure.

[MFaulkCollector]

Member: NYFAN2014

Card: 1984-85 Star Michael Jordan #101 XRC BGS 8.5 (Subs I believe were: 8.5/9.5/7.5/9.5)

Price: $9350

Buyer received card, messaged me saying they received it and wanted me to create a thread so we could exchange feedback and also asked me if I had any other 8.5's for sale. A few days later I received a PM asking about the edges and why they received a 7.5 from BGS.. A few days after that I received an email from PayPal that a "not as described claim was opened. I fought it and obviously lost. Only reason I sold the card was to help raise funds for a down payment on a home.. buyer was even aware of that.. put me in a tough spot for sure.

eeewwwwwww, that is awful

[roberth404]

Just another Blowout autist, plenty of them on here

[Onepocketj]

eeewwwwwww, that is awful

Yep. Not like he didn't see the grades before he purchased it.

[Cavaliercards]

No. Just got an email about the dispute from Paypal. Just said "item not as described" for his reason. How can a graded card with a picture of it posted not be as described?

Didnt know if he said it came damaged or glue on case, etc etc etc. This is why I asked as there are still ways it can come not as described.

Was not a shot at you seller, just wanted to know if he said anything at all.

[Cavaliercards]

Member: NYFAN2014

Card: 1984-85 Star Michael Jordan #101 XRC BGS 8.5 (Subs I believe were: 8.5/9.5/7.5/9.5)

Price: $9350

Buyer received card, messaged me saying they received it and wanted me to create a thread so we could exchange feedback and also asked me if I had any other 8.5's for sale. A few days later I received a PM asking about the edges and why they received a 7.5 from BGS.. A few days after that I received an email from PayPal that a "not as described claim was opened. I fought it and obviously lost. Only reason I sold the card was to help raise funds for a down payment on a home.. buyer was even aware of that.. put me in a tough spot for sure.

That is just dirty

[Pringle10]

I have been working on a trade with him the last few days I think I will stay FAR AWAY from that now.

[Onepocketj]

Didnt know if he said it came damaged or glue on case, etc etc etc. This is why I asked as there are still ways it can come not as described.

Was not a shot at you seller, just wanted to know if he said anything at all.

He said after inspecting it he wasn't completely satisfied. Patriots loss had nothing to do with it I'm sure

[TWard]

Damn.

[Miguels]

That is a load of hot dog crap.

You’ll never lose on the card at that price but sadly you did waste your time and shipping cost. It’s a great heads up to know never to deal with that Member which is a great heads up cause there’s been a couple times I could have made a deal with that user.

[Archangel1775]

Member: NYFAN2014

Card: 1984-85 Star Michael Jordan #101 XRC BGS 8.5 (Subs I believe were: 8.5/9.5/7.5/9.5)

Price: $9350

Buyer received card, messaged me saying they received it and wanted me to create a thread so we could exchange feedback and also asked me if I had any other 8.5's for sale. A few days later I received a PM asking about the edges and why they received a 7.5 from BGS.. A few days after that I received an email from PayPal that a "not as described claim was opened. I fought it and obviously lost. Only reason I sold the card was to help raise funds for a down payment on a home.. buyer was even aware of that.. put me in a tough spot for sure.


Lol,figures,this is a"high roller" always asking to buy Star Jordan and Exquisite LeBrons rookie cards.

[redboxer27]

Member: NYFAN2014

Card: 1984-85 Star Michael Jordan #101 XRC BGS 8.5 (Subs I believe were: 8.5/9.5/7.5/9.5)

Price: $9350

Buyer received card, messaged me saying they received it and wanted me to create a thread so we could exchange feedback and also asked me if I had any other 8.5's for sale. A few days later I received a PM asking about the edges and why they received a 7.5 from BGS.. A few days after that I received an email from PayPal that a "not as described claim was opened. I fought it and obviously lost. Only reason I sold the card was to help raise funds for a down payment on a home.. buyer was even aware of that.. put me in a tough spot for sure.

did the buyer send the card back atleast? brutal

[coltsnsox07]

I just hope you get the Brady back and not some $10 card in the package instead..

[seth2720]

don't let it affect your hobby status though..... just deal with your usual members who post all the time and have at least 40-50 feedbacks over a span of at least 6 months or more

I agree.

Don't let one scum bag force you out of the hobby. There will always be trash around, so avoid it the best you can and have fun.

[twisty571]

Member: NYFAN2014

Card: 1984-85 Star Michael Jordan #101 XRC BGS 8.5 (Subs I believe were: 8.5/9.5/7.5/9.5)

Price: $9350

Buyer received card, messaged me saying they received it and wanted me to create a thread so we could exchange feedback and also asked me if I had any other 8.5's for sale. A few days later I received a PM asking about the edges and why they received a 7.5 from BGS.. A few days after that I received an email from PayPal that a "not as described claim was opened. I fought it and obviously lost. Only reason I sold the card was to help raise funds for a down payment on a home.. buyer was even aware of that.. put me in a tough spot for sure.

That's just wrong on all levels. The friggin' card is graded. You see the card before purchase. You can't dispute a graded card. Unless people spend thousands on cards with out looking at them:confused: Why have a grading then :doh:

[boston12]

I hope you get that card back. Some weird vibes from that guy. Among others around here

[twisty571]

I hope you get that card back. Some weird vibes from that guy. Among others around here

Well if he wants his refund he will have to return the card.

[boston12]

Well if he wants his refund he will have to return the card.

I just hope he doesn’t try pulling a further scam.

[majestik101]

Just reading this thread and what happened to you OP makes me sad.

I have two more scumbag members to add to my ever-growing ignore list smh

[RedMikeC]

That's why I get my expensive #@#@#@#@ sold with probstein let him deal with the headache.

[COMCMax]

You wont take that much of a hit on the card. Just gotta get it back. This is why I hate Ebay.

BGS 9 MINT 2000 BOWMAN CHROME TOM BRADY ROOKIE CARD NICE CENTERING RC PATRIOTS (https://bit.ly/2o1tqzN)

[packman80]

When you get card back have it picked up at post office show person at desk what you are supposed to be getting back open it with them watching and video record it that way if you are scammed you have video proof and a PO employee as a witness.

[ksemmel]

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1186853

The irony of talking about returns...

Member: NYFAN2014

Card: 1984-85 Star Michael Jordan #101 XRC BGS 8.5 (Subs I believe were: 8.5/9.5/7.5/9.5)

Price: $9350

Buyer received card, messaged me saying they received it and wanted me to create a thread so we could exchange feedback and also asked me if I had any other 8.5's for sale. A few days later I received a PM asking about the edges and why they received a 7.5 from BGS.. A few days after that I received an email from PayPal that a "not as described claim was opened. I fought it and obviously lost. Only reason I sold the card was to help raise funds for a down payment on a home.. buyer was even aware of that.. put me in a tough spot for sure.

[Siberian13]

Member: NYFAN2014

Card: 1984-85 Star Michael Jordan #101 XRC BGS 8.5 (Subs I believe were: 8.5/9.5/7.5/9.5)

Price: $9350

Buyer received card, messaged me saying they received it and wanted me to create a thread so we could exchange feedback and also asked me if I had any other 8.5's for sale. A few days later I received a PM asking about the edges and why they received a 7.5 from BGS.. A few days after that I received an email from PayPal that a "not as described claim was opened. I fought it and obviously lost. Only reason I sold the card was to help raise funds for a down payment on a home.. buyer was even aware of that.. put me in a tough spot for sure.

Wow, people like this are allowed to stay on these forums? We’ve seen people banned for less. Another black eye for BO. SHAME

[gottagitdemjs]

I have a similar story but it was on an ungraded card, so I didn't have a chance with paypal. It was in 2014 when Seattle beat the Packers in the NFC Championship game. I sold an Aaron Rodgers Bowman Chrome Bronze Refractor Rookie Auto (ungraded) during the week prior to the game for like $900. I ship it out. He gets it prior to the game, tells me he loves it, and thanks me for the quick shipping. The weekend comes, and they lose. Just because of all of the #@#@#@#@ I've heard of happening (like the other stories in this thread), I held on to the money through the entire next week in case he filed a case and I had to give it back. The first week comes and goes, and then the Super Bowl comes and goes, so I think I'm good, and I spend the money. But you know what's coming... About a month after the initial sale, I get an email from Paypal requesting a return for "Item not as described" because the card had a "crimp in it along the back edge." I fought it tooth and nail trying to explain that it was buyers remorse because of the loss and that this stuff happens all the time and they should stop allowing it (I even told them they should hire a sportscard expert to rule on these situations), but as we all know, the seller NEVER wins with paypal. I got a few canned emails and that was it. I didn't have the money in my account, so Paypal takes it from my bank account which also didn't have enough at the time and I got an overdraft from it. Then of course, I resell the card when I get it back and it brings $725. So with the depreciation and overdraft fee, this jackwagon cost me over $200.

[Bassplayah101]

Maybe he thought he could get it bumped to 9.5 for some reason? Not sure how a return can be accepted like that if it’s graded. Just sad.

https://i.imgur.com/GThgXoih.jpg

Onepocketj, Im assuming this is the card?
Out of morbid curiosity, what are those marks around the midsection of the card? Is the card bending inside the case and touching the inside?

Im sorry you had this experience. There is no legitimate reason to return a graded card unless thew slab is cracked, broken, or scratched to hell and beyond.
Your card does not appear to exhibit any of those characteristics.

No reason to stop collecting.

[ksemmel]

Onepocketj, Im assuming this is the card?
Out of morbid curiosity, what are those marks around the midsection of the card? Is the card bending inside the case and touching the inside?

Im sorry you had this experience. There is no legitimate reason to return a graded card unless thew slab is cracked, broken, or scratched to hell and beyond.
Your card does not appear to exhibit any of those characteristics.

No reason to stop collecting.

Those marks are on Brady's jersey, see a different card below

https://www.ebay.com/itm/222832067908?rmvSB=true

[Bassplayah101]

Those marks are on Brady's jersey, see a different card below

https://www.ebay.com/itm/222832067908?rmvSB=true

No, Im referring to the marks that I have circled.
They are "blotchy" looking.



https://sportscardalbum.com/c/d9p3698c.jpg (https://sportscardalbum.com/card/d9p3698c/n-a)

[goodole13]

Wow, still no response from the other end.

[Brian48]

Wow, still no response from the other end.

No stones.

[Bassplayah101]

Hes online.

[coltsnsox07]

He better say something soon or the BO detective squad is gonna be all over the Brian Greenburg's of Pittsburgh trying to get more info on the guy....

[Siberian13]

He better say something soon or the BO detective squad is gonna be all over the Brian Greenburg's of Pittsburgh trying to get more info on the guy....

I'm surprised we don't have his social and blood type already

[mike1498]

I’ve always been wary of that seller....

[classyseb]

Did he send you the card back?


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[goodole13]

Did he send you the card back?


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He has to send the card back to get a refund.

If he doesn’t send the card back you should mail dildos to his house


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And yes, that'll solve it. :rolleyes:

[Siberian13]

And yes, that'll solve it. :rolleyes:

This is my go to

[goodole13]

This is my go to

Hand delivered

[Siberian13]

Hand delivered

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/39/57/bb/3957bb70c549476ca98e5ecef2817d65.png

https://media.tenor.co/images/be590dcec55e0d453e24c2869f84a420/raw

[kevinandji]

How about the guys who try to buy your expensive raw or RCR cards who then quickly ship to Beckett with 48 hour turnaround with a “not to encapsulate” unless meets their minimum and then decide to return if does not meet their expectations? Too much shadiness...if it’s a graded card and slabbed what’s there to discuss...we have ebay short term loans with no penalty to those selling items they do not have, those who buy hold and hope or dump, and the schemes I’m sure are deeper and more desperate and I’m just scratching the surface...oh wait, surface scratch equals return, bad choice of words.

[Ewing8888]

405910

[Siberian13]

405910

https://media.giphy.com/media/oBP4akAa0Eh9e/giphy.gif

[Ewing8888]

https://media.giphy.com/media/oBP4akAa0Eh9e/giphy.gif

Oh that's so much better than my pic. i have to get better uploading stuff on here.

[Uwfootball1]

How about the guys who try to buy your expensive raw or RCR cards who then quickly ship to Beckett with 48 hour turnaround with a “not to encapsulate” unless meets their minimum and then decide to return if does not meet their expectations? Too much shadiness...if it’s a graded card and slabbed what’s there to discuss...we have ebay short term loans with no penalty to those selling items they do not have, those who buy hold and hope or dump, and the schemes I’m sure are deeper and more desperate and I’m just scratching the surface...oh wait, surface scratch equals return, bad choice of words.

The guys who do this are the pits :coffee::mad:

[Siberian13]

Oh that's so much better than my pic. i have to get better uploading stuff on here.

Figured I help out. Plus I love those movies and that scene is great.

[majestik101]

Figured I help out. Plus I love those movies and that scene is great.

The BO Community

https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FARHkIFJReGSy2c/giphy.gif

[twisty571]

http://i.imgur.com/R5p9G94.gif

[codered]

The BO Community

https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FARHkIFJReGSy2c/giphy.gif

Don't worry I speak jive

[Bassplayah101]

http://i.imgur.com/R5p9G94.gif



BODA hard at work.

https://i.imgur.com/9mhGb8O.gif

[Onepocketj]

Thanks guys. Funny that this guy has logged in the last two days but won't post or answer my messages.

Talked to Paypal today. Not optimistic but feel a little better. I told the guy I sold a football card before the Super Bowl and the team lost and now the loser wants to return the card. The rep said "Was it a Tom Brady rookie?" His next question was "was it graded?"
So at least they have a clue what it's about.

[kingsjason55]

Screw that need to create a board of shame. In my car forum we do that to keep people from doing it including their personal name.

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[3124508 on COMC]

Thanks guys. Funny that this guy has logged in the last two days but won't post or answer my messages.

Talked to Paypal today. Not optimistic but feel a little better. I told the guy I sold a football card before the Super Bowl and the team lost and now the loser wants to return the card. The rep said "Was it a Tom Brady rookie?" His next question was "was it graded?"
So at least they have a clue what it's about.

Color me surprised on the Paypal rep having any clue.

[Onepocketj]

Color me surprised on the Paypal rep having any clue.

I was very surprised as well. They said give them 48 hours to review it.

[SirTommyWinAlot]

selling cards during the season especially during the postseason is always iffy. I won a stephen curry auction from this dude when the warriors were playing the thunder and were down in the series 3 games to 1. it took me a couple days to pay and before you know it, the warriors were coming back. guy changed his mind. I told him he earned some bad card karma and that it was going to come back and bite him. a year later he sells a brady contenders 9.5 for 13k. If he sold later he would have got 50k.

Always do the right thing.

[Onepocketj]

selling cards during the season especially during the postseason is always iffy. I won a stephen curry auction from this dude when the warriors were playing the thunder and were down in the series 3 games to 1. it took me a couple days to pay and before you know it, the warriors were coming back. guy changed his mind. I told him he earned some bad card karma and that it was going to come back and bite him. a year later he sells a brady contenders 9.5 for 13k. If he sold later he would have got 50k.

Always do the right thing.

He probably bought the Brady for 1k...
I still believe in karma though

[SirTommyWinAlot]

He probably bought the Brady for 1k...
I still believe in karma though

Maybe, but he's got to be kicking himself regardless. Anyways, in season transactions can get hairy sometimes sorry you had to deal with that punk.

[Onepocketj]

Maybe, but he's got to be kicking himself regardless. Anyways, in season transactions can get hairy sometimes sorry you had to deal with that punk.

I would send him the sold listings every time they go up. :)

[SirTommyWinAlot]

I would send him the sold listings every time they go up. :)

haha good one. That's slick.:)!

[blackbears86]

it's guys like this that make me leery of ever selling except through PWCC, or probstein.

I would always be always be worried about that return until 45 days were up.


Either way, sorry you have to put up with this loser OP.

[jpcz]

it's guys like this that make me leery of ever selling except through PWCC, or probstein.

I would always be always be worried about that return until 45 days were up.


Either way, sorry you have to put up with this loser OP.
Are people not allowed to return items they bought from those two sellers?

Seeing as it's a consignment, how would returns work if they already paid out the owner?

[ssbledsoe]

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1188669

Long lost cousins???

[Stat Monsters]

The "buyer's remorse" real reason behind "item is not as described" is disheartening but an epidemic on eBay with collectibles. Buyers have been known to forceably manipulate get eBay to side with them by simply either stating the parcel was empty accusing the seller of fraud, or actually physically damaging the product themselves to them claim it's damaged.

The best and only thing you can really do is not fight it, you'll end up having to give the money back and get negative feedback and possibly either damaged goods or a parcel that's empty yourself (be sure to video record the opening of the parcel when it's returned to you as somewhat leading evidence to any fraud)

If you simply get the card back and issue the refund (and yes, you'll get buyers who will also #@#@#@#@#@#@ and Moan about how you also owe them their shipping and return shipping back and will be out of pocket $10 or so, a true slap in the face), then you can move on with your life. It's up to you to then later "name names", and put them on blast on message boards, but I'd say try to handcuff positive feedback first so there's no retaliation of negative feedback and document all communication, typically these buyers slip and you can coerce a confession from them via eBay messenger when you ask the reasons behind the return and rationalize or question the reasons.

Buyers have to be careful of their activities, I've heard urban legends of some pretty intense revenge tactics that some sellers end up doing. The buyers should realize that the sellers do have the buyer's address, so "anything goes" when you have a disgruntled situation and a vengeful heart.

[chippv]

and why hasn't the neg been dropped yet?

[Siberian13]

unfortunately not. i had the same experience with a 10k card last year.. mods removed the feedback i left but the member is still roaming the boards.

and why hasn't the neg been dropped yet?

Would it matter if the mods remove the feedback?

[jbittma1]

He tried offering me $550 on mine smh

[chippv]

Would it matter if the mods remove the feedback?

why would the mods remove it? buyer remorse is not a reasonable excuse for a return. It was a graded card so condition is not a issue. Hopefully he has been reported and the mods take out the trash.

[Siberian13]

why would the mods remove it? buyer remorse is not a reasonable excuse for a return. It was a graded card so condition is not a issue. Hopefully he has been reported and the mods take out the trash.

Jay9Suited who I quoted said he had same issue with a $10k deal and they removed the feedback and the guy is still here with no negative feedback to warn others. what’s the difference with this one?

[Jackg1980]

I posted a Brady Chrome BGS 9 here on Saturday for $700. A guy offered me $650 and I declined. I also said "don't worry, if they lose tomorrow I'm sure they will be all over ebay at that price." He responded back with how about $675? I had my eye on a couple cards so said why not and sold it. Shipped it Monday and he got it on Friday. Of course he filed a dispute today saying not as described because the prices on them went down this week.

I am so pissed off right now. I can't stand people whose word is worthless.

If this one example is making you leave the hobby then you might as well not have any kind of hobby. There are people like this in every hobby and in every aspect of life.

[jjeanius]

Jay9Suited who I quoted said he had same issue with a $10k deal and they removed the feedback and the guy is still here with no negative feedback to warn others. what’s the difference with this one?

I think Jay9Suited may have meant that he requested the mods remove his POSITIVE feedback, and they obliged...but did nothing else to discipline the offending party.

[chippv]

I think Jay9Suited may have meant that he requested the mods remove his POSITIVE feedback, and they obliged...but did nothing else to discipline the offending party.

I think this is what he meant. This should of been posted in the member feedback section to warn the community

[Siberian13]

I think Jay9Suited may have meant that he requested the mods remove his POSITIVE feedback, and they obliged...but did nothing else to discipline the offending party.

Ok but shouldn't Jay9Suited be allowed to leave negative feedback instead of them just removing positive feedback? Protect the community

[jjeanius]

Ok but shouldn't Jay9Suited be allowed to leave negative feedback instead of them just removing positive feedback? Protect the community

Most definitely.

[rj.cataldo]

No, Im referring to the marks that I have circled.
They are "blotchy" looking.



https://sportscardalbum.com/c/d9p3698c.jpg (https://sportscardalbum.com/card/d9p3698c/n-a)

Not endorsing the buyers actions by any means, but I once returned an Urlacher Bowman Chrome refractor that had similar marks. It was a BGS 9, but there were blotches on the card that were not visible in the pictures. When I got the card in hand it looked as if the blotches formed from some sort of deterioration after the fact. I believe that it may be a defect or issue with the chrome surfacing. Similar deterioration has happened with 1999 contenders cards that are encapsulated.

My transaction was an ebay sale though, and the seller accepted 30 day returns, so there was no issue.

[duwal]

selling cards during the season especially during the postseason is always iffy. I won a stephen curry auction from this dude when the warriors were playing the thunder and were down in the series 3 games to 1. it took me a couple days to pay and before you know it, the warriors were coming back. guy changed his mind. I told him he earned some bad card karma and that it was going to come back and bite him. a year later he sells a brady contenders 9.5 for 13k. If he sold later he would have got 50k.

Always do the right thing.


https://media.giphy.com/media/wtfVqOdrMmeYg/giphy.gif

[Siberian13]

https://media.giphy.com/media/wtfVqOdrMmeYg/giphy.gif

Hahahaha

[blackbears86]

Are people not allowed to return items they bought from those two sellers?

Seeing as it's a consignment, how would returns work if they already paid out the owner?


That's the nice thing about selling through them. They absorb the returns/headache. Once the item is sold, you just collect the check.

[3124508 on COMC]

Not endorsing the buyers actions by any means, but I once returned an Urlacher Bowman Chrome refractor that had similar marks. It was a BGS 9, but there were blotches on the card that were not visible in the pictures. When I got the card in hand it looked as if the blotches formed from some sort of deterioration after the fact. I believe that it may be a defect or issue with the chrome surfacing. Similar deterioration has happened with 1999 contenders cards that are encapsulated.

My transaction was an ebay sale though, and the seller accepted 30 day returns, so there was no issue.

From this one particular picture alone, it looks like moisture has somehow made its way into the slab.

[Onepocketj]

From this one particular picture alone, it looks like moisture has somehow made its way into the slab.

There was absolutely nothing wrong with the card. And if the Patriots won, there is 0 percent chance that the dispute would have been filed. The dispute has 0 to do with the card. The fact that the guy has logged on every day and won't respond to messages or the thread tells you all you need to know about him.

[rj.cataldo]

From this one particular picture alone, it looks like moisture has somehow made its way into the slab.

I can't really judge anything from the photos. I was merely pointing out that I had a similar issue with a refractor from that same set. As someone who has probably returned less than 5 items I have bought from ebay over the course of thousands of transactions, I am not one to return slabbed cards, but my particular case it appears the card deteriorated after slabbing.

I however trust the OP is representing the card and in this case it's just the photos. Sounds like the buyer has a rep for doing similar things.

[3124508 on COMC]

I can't really judge anything from the photos. I was merely pointing out that I had a similar issue with a refractor from that same set. As someone who has probably returned less than 5 items I have bought from ebay over the course of thousands of transactions, I am not one to return slabbed cards, but my particular case it appears the card deteriorated after slabbing.

I however trust the OP is representing the card and in this case it's just the photos. Sounds like the buyer has a rep for doing similar things.

Not saying you are, just observing what can be seen from the photo. That said, if I was buying it, I would ask about that and request additional photos. That could've make this situation nonexistent if it wasn't a case of buyer's remorse (which I doubt).

[mlbfan10]

IMO those marks are from the inner sleeve BGS uses and not anything wrong with the card. Onepocket I'm sorry this has happened to you. I also would think this would be a user would get banned for this.

[blackbears86]

There was absolutely nothing wrong with the card. And if the Patriots won, there is 0 percent chance that the dispute would have been filed. The dispute has 0 to do with the card. The fact that the guy has logged on every day and won't respond to messages or the thread tells you all you need to know about him.

Agree. You would think he would have responded by now. Maybe someone could enlighten him to this thread?

[majestik101]

Agree. You would think he would have responded by now. Maybe someone could enlighten him to this thread?


Maybe the Wi-Fi at the KFC he works at is spotty.

[TheLastDude]

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1188669

Strange that this thread popped up yesterday.

BGS 9 Chrome Brady...bought right before the Super Bowl...found a flaw a few days ago...

[COMCMax]

The buyers selling his reputation for $75. I bought a ton of Bortles cards when they were up in the 3rd quarter vs Pats. I paid for them and then lost my ass on them later that week but got to keep my rep. Good luck OP. Hope it works out.

BGS 9 MINT 2000 BOWMAN CHROME TOM BRADY ROOKIE CARD NICE CENTERING RC PATRIOTS (https://bit.ly/2o1tqzN)

[COMCMax]

Just fyi. COMC is a great place for top tier players/cards like this minus the shenanigans.

[Siberian13]

Just fyi. COMC is a great place for top tier players/cards like this minus the shenanigans.

Don’t they charge a lot though like 20% or more?

[COMCMax]

Don’t they charge a lot though like 20% or more?

In this case it cost the seller $67.50 + shipping and insurance. So say $80?

COMC would have cost him $130 if he chose to cash out.

Seems like a lot if you base it off 1 card ,but over the long run I've found it to be worth it. I had $55,000 in sales with 0 returns, a couple trips to the PO, no waiting on payments or npb's, and made up all of what I would have lost flipping cards here and there. I've also bought a few nice PC items.

[gmarutiak]

The thing I don't understand is why prices on Brady cards are fluctuating at this point. I understand that he didn't win THIS Super Bowl, shouldn't his status (and card prices) be cemented in history?

[Onepocketj]

The thing I don't understand is why prices on Brady cards are fluctuating at this point. I understand that he didn't win THIS Super Bowl, shouldn't his status (and card prices) be cemented in history?

Collectors are a fickle group. What have you done for me lately?

[COMCMax]

The thing I don't understand is why prices on Brady cards are fluctuating at this point. I understand that he didn't win THIS Super Bowl, shouldn't his status (and card prices) be cemented in history?

Lots of dumping, hedging, and relisting. Always a bit of manipulating mixed in unfortanely.

[GBfanLA]

TOM
BRADY

[RedMikeC]

Did you get the card back at least?

[blackbears86]

updates please !!!!!!!

[Onepocketj]

Pretty happy with this. Paypal called me today and said that the buyer's excuse of "not completely satisfied" wasn't an acceptable reason and they closed the case in my favor. Took the funds in my account off of hold. Nice try Jody, aka Briangreenburg.

[kingsjason55]

Wow congrats

Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

[vanpatten]

Wow, one for the seller! Cheers!

[goodole13]

Good for you! I'm sure that's a relief. Still no response from the buyer?

[Onepocketj]

Good for you! I'm sure that's a relief. Still no response from the buyer?

Not a peep

[TWard]

Glad it all worked out, OP!

[blackbears86]

Great news OP!!!! That's a rare win for you against the buyer!! (I bet ebay looked at his return history)

How much you wanna bet he's pulled this before?

[deansayso]

I love how he's been online but hasn't posted since Feb 8th...

[Onepocketj]

I love how he's been online but hasn't posted since Feb 8th...

Yep - online every day but wouldn't respond to messages or posts in threads.

[Bowman1951]

https://images-mm.s3.amazonaws.com/Superman_Happy_Ending_JNK_Beige_Shirt2_POP.jpg

[Onepocketj]

https://images-mm.s3.amazonaws.com/Superman_Happy_Ending_JNK_Beige_Shirt2_POP.jpg

Me too!
Thanks

[rman112]

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/aa/aabcdff4715c8971784dbb4e7182a9dd800371db00635e57f0aa7379e21634cd.jpg

[Joshtastic]

Congrats OP!

Peek-a-boo, we see you!
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/ejamespmanning/Random/04ABF72F-F083-4117-BC3E-439CC75B07D4.jpg

[twisty571]

Awesome! Glad it worked out in your favor!

[blackbears86]

Congrats OP!

Peek-a-boo, we see you!
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/ejamespmanning/Random/04ABF72F-F083-4117-BC3E-439CC75B07D4.jpg



Ha Ha!!!!!!! that's awesome!!!!

I wonder how many people here have blocked this guy.

[mike1498]

At least he doesn’t try to deny it

[Onepocketj]

At least he doesn’t try to deny it

He is actually a she. I just assumed Jody was a guy but when I looked up the Facebook it's a mom with 2 kids...

[Anderdale]

mods should put users name in title so more people know whats up.

[cking]

Did you get the card back or did paypal tell them they could not return it?

[twisty571]

Did you get the card back or did paypal tell them they could not return it?

The return wasn't allowed. He got to keep the cash.

[chippv]

He is actually a she. I just assumed Jody was a guy but when I looked up the Facebook it's a mom with 2 kids...

I think he is a kid. he posted this a few months ago https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1130013 he is probably using his mother's name for pp reasons.

[Devi8or]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/839aa665bcf2ebe7f3735d854461705d/tenor.gif?itemid=9836552

^^^^ OP right now

[Corky]

Pretty happy with this. Paypal called me today and said that the buyer's excuse of "not completely satisfied" wasn't an acceptable reason and they closed the case in my favor. Took the funds in my account off of hold. Nice try Jody, aka Briangreenburg.

A win for the good guys

[pac_rat_76]

Yep - online every day but wouldn't respond to messages or posts in threads.

If only they could be suspended for this.... :rolleyes:

[houdini]

i just banned him/her/them

[cking]

i just banned him/her/them

You are a good soul....I will give you that much:)!

[blackbears86]

i just banned him/her/them



awesome!!:)!

[KB81]

Took me a bit to read all of this.

Wow, what a ***.

Glad OP had PayPal on his side on this one, it’s not often PayPal goes our way.

Heard someone mention a thread of shame. Do it!!

[TWard]

i just banned him/her/them


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180223/7bd27a65c7d478aa91c0ca78ff86c95f.gif

[ninjacookies]

He is actually a she. I just assumed Jody was a guy but when I looked up the Facebook it's a mom with 2 kids...

Don't count out the possibility of it being one of her kids.

I had a 'pleasant' experience with a 13 year old who was using his mother's credit card/paypal account to fund his attempted scamming spree.

Glad it worked out for you.

[Onepocketj]

i just banned him/her/them

Awesome. Thank you sir!

[Jay9Suited]

at least 1 dirtbag got banned...