Price of Ungraded 2011 Trout Update Rapidly Increasing...

[wharfrat7624]

Ungraded Trout Update just sold for $350!!!

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F282978952443


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[speedyjg13]

I would say... buy now then. Seems like this is THE card to have (non auto)

[wharfrat7624]

I would say... buy now then. Seems like this is THE card to have (non auto)


I have a few 10’s and bought a real nice ungraded yesterday for $250. Will probably continue to buy more. As Gordon Gekko said “Greed is good.” Ha


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[notoriousrmb]

I'm still sitting on a stack of 15 of these ungraded, plus some BGS 10 and 9.5s I've picked up a long time ago.

Couldn't be happier! I suppose I should start submitting the raw ones as well.

[wharfrat7624]

I'm still sitting on a stack of 15 of these ungraded, plus some BGS 10 and 9.5s I've picked up a long time ago.

Couldn't be happier! I suppose I should start submitting the raw ones as well.

I submitted 7 to PSA a couple months back - came back with (2) 10's, (4) 9's and (1) 8...

[diamondthief6]

I've been kicking myself for not buying a stack of these at a card show a few years ago at $40 a piece

[prospectorgems]

And this is exactly the reason why I need to get out of cards. I never hang onto anything long enough to get these kinds of prices. I used to have 30 of those update Trouts.

[ksemmel]

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/982/40818034095_3e8d221ce5_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/25bX6sx)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/25bX6sx) by kyle semmel (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141717527@N02/), on Flickr

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[pensfan87893]

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Oh my!!

[jjeanius]

I just sold 15 PSA 10s and 15 BGS 9.5s over the last month or so to reinvest those funds into Update parallels and other rarer Trout RCs (only have one base Update left). It’s quite possible that the base Update will prove to be the single best “investment” card...but as a collector it’s just hard to get too excited about a card that is so readily available at all times. So, I tend to focus on much tougher cards to find...that likely won’t provide the same ROI in the long run.

Curse of being a collector, I guess...

[imbluestreak23]

I just sold 15 PSA 10s and 15 BGS 9.5s over the last month or so to reinvest those funds into Update parallels and other rarer Trout RCs (only have one base Update left). It’s quite possible that the base Update will prove to be the single best “investment” card...but as a collector it’s just hard to get too excited about a card that is so readily available at all times. So, I tend to focus on much tougher cards to find...that likely won’t provide the same ROI in the long run.

Curse of being a collector, I guess...

That's why I've been a fan of Bowman Chrome #175. Much more limited than the Update, and much much much more limited than Chrome Draft 101. Very condition sensitive given L/R centering and surface issues with most copies, as many of these were chucked away in monster boxes likely exposing the surface to the rough cardboard...beating surfaces to poop.

[Coug46n2]

That's why I've been a fan of Bowman Chrome #175. Much more limited than the Update, and much much much more limited than Chrome Draft 101. Very condition sensitive given L/R centering and surface issues with most copies, as many of these were chucked away in monster boxes likely exposing the surface to the rough cardboard...beating surfaces to poop.

Absolutely agree, plus it's just a better photo than the draft version. Finding a centered BC 175 is tough. The refractors in this set weren't marked in anyway, so I'd bet there are a fair number of Trout refractors that were 'tossed' back in the day as being commons.

[darin2200]

Maybe I'm just bitter because I sold all my RAW 2011 Trout updates on COMC, I never was in on it above the 40 - 50 dollar level, and sold many below that. I always thought this bubble has to break, this is a base card, this is ridiculous. I know all the factors that go into it, the topps flagship RC's have had a big emergence, and obviously the popularity of trout, but I still just don't get it. What have we estimated the print run to be on 2011 update, I know it is less than S1 S2, but are we talking multiple 100,000's of each card? There must be a ton of people hoarding multiple copies. Could this market have been propped up by the buyers group? Or basically an unorganized group of hoarders\speculators. What happens if Trout blows an ACL and has 2 - 3 bad years? Could this bubble crash harder than any other bubble we've seen? (Knock on wood)

[ThoseBackPages]

That's why I've been a fan of Bowman Chrome #175. Much more limited than the Update, and much much much more limited than Chrome Draft 101. Very condition sensitive given L/R centering and surface issues with most copies, as many of these were chucked away in monster boxes likely exposing the surface to the rough cardboard...beating surfaces to poop.

what hurts that card most is that you have to explain what it is

[notoriousrmb]

The main reason this card is so popular is that it has very little competing with it. I mean what else does he have, the Bowman version mentioned above?

Even prior to 2011, he has what, a single Bowman Platinum prospect card?

Compare that to any RC these days where you have copies of the same 10 guys in 30 different products. Or 5th year Bowman cards in this year's chrome.

I'd be surprised if we ever see this circumstance again. It's clearly "the" card to have, as opposed to say the Judge RC where you have 15 options and no one agrees on the best card.

[WhyMarinersWhy]

That's why I've been a fan of Bowman Chrome #175. Much more limited than the Update, and much much much more limited than Chrome Draft 101. Very condition sensitive given L/R centering and surface issues with most copies, as many of these were chucked away in monster boxes likely exposing the surface to the rough cardboard...beating surfaces to poop.

Totally agree. Prices on Updates have become ridiculous, so I've switched to the BC cards lately. Another cool thing about the BC 175 is the PSA 10s are over $400, but the 9s are between $150-200. Contrast that with the Update where the 10s are about the same price, but the 9s are typically around $300.

[imbluestreak23]

what hurts that card most is that you have to explain what it is

Yeah this is true. It will probably be one of those cards that continues to slowly rise over time as the discrepancy in pop reports gets wider.

edit: Diamond Anniversary Update 10 pop = 202; Update 10 pop = 3260, BC 175 10 pop = 276

[imbluestreak23]

Two rarest RCs are still the following:

Licensed: Bowman Sterling PSA 10 pop = 84, PSA 9 pop = 61
Unlicensed and likely the grail: Prime Cuts PSA 10 = 1, PSA 9 = 11

Regardless, can definitely see Topps flagship being the blue chip grower, and all others following the path of rare Brady rookie slabs. All are EXCELLENT investments :)!

[notoriousrmb]

Two rarest RCs are still the following:

Licensed: Bowman Sterling PSA 10 pop = 84, PSA 9 pop = 61
Unlicensed and likely the grail: Prime Cuts PSA 10 = 1, PSA 9 = 11

Regardless, can definitely see Topps flagship being the blue chip grower, and all others following the path of rare Brady rookie slabs. All are EXCELLENT investments :)!

Licensed: Bowman Sterling BGS 10 pop = 11, BGS 9.5 pop = 175
Unlicensed and likely the grail: Prime Cuts BGS 10 = 0, BGS 9.5 = 3

2011 Update: BGS 10 = 173 (16 Black), BGS 9.5 = 2866, BGS 4 = 1

[imbluestreak23]

Licensed: Bowman Sterling BGS 10 pop = 11, BGS 9.5 pop = 175
Unlicensed and likely the grail: Prime Cuts BGS 10 = 0, BGS 9.5 = 3

2011 Update: BGS 10 = 173 (16 Black), BGS 9.5 = 2866, BGS 4 = 1

2011 Bowman Chrome #175: BGS 10 = 30 (1 black), BGS 9.5 = 623

It will take a lot to pry my BC #175 BGS dime away from my small PC, especially since I was the one that had it slabbed :)!

[CapeTownCards]

2011 Bowman Chrome #175: BGS 10 = 30 (1 black), BGS 9.5 = 623

It will take a lot to pry my BC #175 BGS dime away from my small PC, especially since I was the one that had it slabbed :)!

I also like the BC #175 cards best since they fit nicely with the 2009 BC autos. Just the unsigned version with the RC logo. I’ve always liked them more than the updates, but I guess I’m in the minority. :o

[dcaudle68]

Is a 2011 Gold Update at BGS 9.0 worth cracking and submitting hoping for a 9.5?

[base set]

So is the '11 Update BGS 4 the Anti-Grail perhaps? It is the Only One, after all. You too can own a piece of History.

[notoriousrmb]

So is the '11 Update BGS 4 the Anti-Grail perhaps? It is the Only One, after all. You too can own a piece of History.

Until someone comes along with a BGS 3 and puts it to shame...

[rainmaker]

Is a 2011 Gold Update at BGS 9.0 worth cracking and submitting hoping for a 9.5?

scan?

[rngrdanny22]

Until someone comes along with a BGS 3 and puts it to shame...


This is one of those moments when the chewed up orange Gallo needs to make an appearance.

[KhalDrogo]

$350 for a raw copy is stupid.

I’m selling my PSA 10 whenever the next big eBay coupon or bucks deal comes out. Will take that money and put it toward a Diamond PSA 10.

[rainmaker]

$350 wont sound so stupid in 3 years when these suckers are clearing 4 figures...

selling to upgrade to a diamond before those get way out of hand is smart though :)!

[moosetequila]

I just sold 15 PSA 10s and 15 BGS 9.5s over the last month or so to reinvest those funds into Update parallels and other rarer Trout RCs (only have one base Update left). It’s quite possible that the base Update will prove to be the single best “investment” card...but as a collector it’s just hard to get too excited about a card that is so readily available at all times. So, I tend to focus on much tougher cards to find...that likely won’t provide the same ROI in the long run.

Curse of being a collector, I guess...

You have company! :)!:)!:)!
I only own a PSA 9 Gold and a PSA 10 Diamond, me loves sparkly shiny stuff!

[dcaudle68]

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[dcaudle68]

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[ThoseBackPages]

LOVE IT!

[Shadowsonic2004]

So is the '11 Update BGS 4 the Anti-Grail perhaps? It is the Only One, after all. You too can own a piece of History.I was just wondering today why low grade cards never really got the niche that coins do for low grades. A number of coin collectors look for very poor graded coins like a PCGS 1. Cards collectors don't really do that. I was looking last night and there are only 9 BGS 1 86 Fleer Jordans.

[rngrdanny22]

There's an "authentic" PSA red Trout on eBay right now.

Corners are quite rough. Wonder if that one would have been a sub-PSA 5.

[speedyjg13]

3 to 4 years ago.... I debated a diamond for $350. Now I regret it as they are well over 1K. If you got the $ buy now.

[speedyjg13]

I was just wondering today why low grade cards never really got the niche that coins do for low grades. A number of coin collectors look for very poor graded coins like a PCGS 1. Cards collectors don't really do that. I was looking last night and there are only 9 BGS 1 86 Fleer Jordans.

Card collectors are paranoid about card condition, specially centering

[seabass97166]

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[SaveMeTheGum]

There are 8500 of these base graded by PSA and BGS, with over 6000 being PSA 10/BGS 9.5 or better. There has got to be some SERIOUS hoarders of these for these prices to hold. There has to be people sitting on hundreds of these. Glad I have a few.

[clocsta2323]

There are 8500 of these base graded by PSA and BGS, with over 6000 being PSA 10/BGS 9.5 or better. There has got to be some SERIOUS hoarders of these for these prices to hold. There has to be people sitting on hundreds of these. Glad I have a few.

This card has to be the most saturated, artificially inflated base card in existence. Enjoy (not you quoted poster) your /50000 Update base :)

[clocsta2323]

$350 wont sound so stupid in 3 years when these suckers are clearing 4 figures...

selling to upgrade to a diamond before those get way out of hand is smart though :)!

This will never happen

[rngrdanny22]

This will never happen


What is the basis of your claim?

[clocsta2323]

What is the basis of your claim?

That an Update base Trout will reach $1000?? There are too many of them. I have a significant Trout collection but am grounded in reality of what I believe to be the most pertinent word in collecting Trout: scarcity

[clocsta2323]

What is the basis of your claim?

Color Trout with low # from 2011 BDDP has doubled in 8 weeks. Update base has increased insignificantly comparatively

[Ferg1945]

That an Update base Trout will reach $1000?? There are too many of them. I have a significant Trout collection but am grounded in reality of what I believe to be the most pertinent word in collecting Trout: scarcity

But you have to figure in the entire country of baseball fans. Not just card collectors... EVERYONE who is a fan of baseball. They see Trout as the best in baseball. He is only 26 and it's possible we have yet to see what he can really do... see this season as an example. When those fans want to buy a RC of Trout they see the Bowman Chrome Auto and look for another option. The 2011 is an iconic RC and many of those fans will turn to that card as the card they purchase. 8500 cards is not that many when you factor in the millions of fans across the country.

If Trout stays healthy... the 2011 Update will just continue to rise. Around Christmas it was $300... now it's $500... where will it be at the end of the season if he wins a 3rd MVP at the age of 26? You don't think $1000 will happen at some point? It will.

[broncomanning18]

That an Update base Trout will reach $1000?? There are too many of them. I have a significant Trout collection but am grounded in reality of what I believe to be the most pertinent word in collecting Trout: scarcity

Arent there a bunch of Michael Jordan fleer rc's ?????

[broncomanning18]

But you have to figure in the entire country of baseball fans. Not just card collectors... EVERYONE who is a fan of baseball. They see Trout as the best in baseball. He is only 26 and it's possible we have yet to see what he can really do... see this season as an example. When those fans want to buy a RC of Trout they see the Bowman Chrome Auto and look for another option. The 2011 is an iconic RC and many of those fans will turn to that card as the card they purchase. 8500 cards is not that many when you factor in the millions of fans across the country.

If Trout stays healthy... the 2011 Update will just continue to rise. Around Christmas it was $300... now it's $500... where will it be at the end of the season if he wins a 3rd MVP at the age of 26? You don't think $1000 will happen at some point? It will.

I am with you, while I agree with him that maybe it isnt likely, but it is certainly possible if Trout keeps up what he did last year before being injured and what he has done this year so far. The 2011 update is THE Iconic card to have for the regular fan. After seeing what happened to Bradys prices I dont rule anything out LOL

[clocsta2323]

But you have to figure in the entire country of baseball fans. Not just card collectors... EVERYONE who is a fan of baseball. They see Trout as the best in baseball. He is only 26 and it's possible we have yet to see what he can really do... see this season as an example. When those fans want to buy a RC of Trout they see the Bowman Chrome Auto and look for another option. The 2011 is an iconic RC and many of those fans will turn to that card as the card they purchase. 8500 cards is not that many when you factor in the millions of fans across the country.

If Trout stays healthy... the 2011 Update will just continue to rise. Around Christmas it was $300... now it's $500... where will it be at the end of the season if he wins a 3rd MVP at the age of 26? You don't think $1000 will happen at some point? It will.

I read a previous post that stated there were 8500 PSA/BGS Gems for 2011 Update base. Admittedly I am speculating that there must be tens of thousands of non PSA/BGS gems out there. "8500 cards is not that many when you factor in the millions of fans across the country."

I think it will rise too.. and every week Probstein runs a half dozen they get shilled to $500 this week itll be shilled to $600 next week :)

Sleep easy and spend a little bit more buying a better Trout.. thats my opinion

[dhcollecting]

Has the platinum 1/1 trout ever gone to auction?

[bobthewondercat]

Trout is not nearly as famous as Brady or MJ tho. I think the ‘11 update is at or near its peak. Other cards not necessarily (Bowman sterling, ‘11 Chrome refs, etc)

[wharfrat7624]

Trout is not nearly as famous as Brady or MJ tho. I think the ‘11 update is at or near its peak. Other cards not necessarily (Bowman sterling, ‘11 Chrome refs, etc)



Huh? Not nearly as famous? I disagree. Trout has been the face of MLB for a few years now. There are not many players compared to Mantle. Trout is...


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[clocsta2323]

Huh? Not nearly as famous? I disagree. Trout has been the face of MLB for a few years now. There are not many players compared to Mantle. Trout is...


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He is right though... Trout is still a fledgling brand and that is all on MLB's piss poor marketing

[Ferg1945]

Trout is not nearly as famous as Brady or MJ tho. I think the ‘11 update is at or near its peak. Other cards not necessarily (Bowman sterling, ‘11 Chrome refs, etc)

Because he is only 26.

Michael Jordan and Tom Brady weren't Michael Jordan and Tom Brady at 26 either.

Michael Jordan was popular but UD losing the license to make basketball cards made his Bulls autos just go absolutely insane over time. Same for his topps chrome stuff... what you see is what you get.

Tom Terrific slowly went up.. he won early but went through 10 years of no SB wins. Once he won 4 and 5 his stuff just went insane like Jordan.

[clocsta2323]

Are there 8500 Gem Mint Tom Brady Contenders ?

Are there 8500 MJ Fleer RC Gems?

[Ferg1945]

Are there 8500 Gem Mint Tom Brady Contenders ?

Are there 8500 MJ Fleer RC Gems?

There are like 7100 PSA 8s..........

https://i.imgur.com/RoaAraG.jpg?1

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SneakyHandsomeAssassinbug-size_restricted.gif :)!

[clocsta2323]

There are like 7100 PSA 8s..........

https://i.imgur.com/RoaAraG.jpg?1

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SneakyHandsomeAssassinbug-size_restricted.gif :)!

Buy all the PSA 8 Trouts you can find at $150 per and give me one flight on your private jet

Id like to go to Aspen

[clocsta2323]

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[clocsta2323]

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4269/34508285460_210a1062ea_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/UznZ1Y)trout mike 2011 sterling gold front (https://flic.kr/p/UznZ1Y)
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4774/39190343430_cc157356a5_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/22H7KJo)trout finest :10 (https://flic.kr/p/22H7KJo)

[clocsta2323]

Id like to trade that true gem /10 Finest die-cut for some 2011 bowman color graded...

Bottom right card... looking for gold/blue

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[wwejhardyrox]

Every once and a while threads about Trout Update RC’s pop up. Every time it reminds me of 2012 spring training when i sent my only one out as a TTM and never got it back. Obviously I blame myself and not Trout for not signing it lol. It just sucks I wish I just kept the card.

[palmetto7]

MIke Trout roaming centerfield for the NY Yankees for about 10 years winning a few championships! OH HELL YEAH his cards would go up, lol. One can dream.

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[Danderlion]

But you have to figure in the entire country of baseball fans. Not just card collectors... EVERYONE who is a fan of baseball. They see Trout as the best in baseball. He is only 26 and it's possible we have yet to see what he can really do... see this season as an example. When those fans want to buy a RC of Trout they see the Bowman Chrome Auto and look for another option. The 2011 is an iconic RC and many of those fans will turn to that card as the card they purchase. 8500 cards is not that many when you factor in the millions of fans across the country.

If Trout stays healthy... the 2011 Update will just continue to rise. Around Christmas it was $300... now it's $500... where will it be at the end of the season if he wins a 3rd MVP at the age of 26? You don't think $1000 will happen at some point? It will.

EVERYONE that is a fan of baseball doesn't give a **** about baseball cards. Card collectors are a very small % of baseball fans. You think people with 0 baseball cards are going to spend $1,000 (or even $400) on a Mike Trout RC card because he has racked up insane stats and MVPs? Sorry, never going to happen.

I agree the card can still go up, but chances of it tripling at this point are incredibly small.

[jjeanius]

Has the platinum 1/1 trout ever gone to auction?

No (at least not since the first year or two). The Diamond 1/1 was sold on eBay a few years back but the buyer backed out. Same seller also owned the platinum 1/1 (it was mentioned in the Diamond auction), and the platinum was sold privately shortly thereafter. Would love to find that one.

[Craiggysanford]

Would his prices plummet if he eventually signed with the Padres, Mariners, or Tigers? Or would it not matter since he's a beast?

[superdan49]

No (at least not since the first year or two). The Diamond 1/1 was sold on eBay a few years back but the buyer backed out. Same seller also owned the platinum 1/1 (it was mentioned in the Diamond auction), and the platinum was sold privately shortly thereafter. Would love to find that one.

I remember the guy on FB with the Platinum and Diamond 1/1. I've neither seen nor heard of someone pulling or owning the Canary 1/1 however.

[clocsta2323]

Would his prices plummet if he eventually signed with the Padres, Mariners, or Tigers? Or would it not matter since he's a beast?

Doesn't matter where he plays. LAA is not a marquee market to begin with but those teams you mentioned would never pay Trout the $50 million per year he is worth :)

[jjeanius]

I remember the guy on FB with the Platinum and Diamond 1/1. I've neither seen nor heard of someone pulling or owning the Canary 1/1 however.

No - me neither.

[anusinha]

I thought I heard that the canary 1/1 ended up with an IP auto?

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Would his prices plummet if he eventually signed with the Padres, Mariners, or Tigers? Or would it not matter since he's a beast?

I don't think being in Anaheim does him any favors, so I don't think it matters where he plays. That said, if he went to the Yankees his prices would probably go ballistic.

[RCCTHREE]

2011 Bowman Chrome #175: BGS 10 = 30 (1 black), BGS 9.5 = 623

It will take a lot to pry my BC #175 BGS dime away from my small PC, especially since I was the one that had it slabbed :)!

refractor PSA 10's would be where its at! lower pop.

[jjeanius]

I thought I heard that the canary 1/1 ended up with an IP auto?

Wow, I hope not

[monkeymcgee]

EVERYONE that is a fan of baseball doesn't give a **** about baseball cards. Card collectors are a very small % of baseball fans. You think people with 0 baseball cards are going to spend $1,000 (or even $400) on a Mike Trout RC card because he has racked up insane stats and MVPs? Sorry, never going to happen.

I agree the card can still go up, but chances of it tripling at this point are incredibly small.

I wouldn't discount the impact of people who use these kinds of cards as an investment vehicle (or creative accounting vehicle) and don't give a **** about baseball at all. This type of upward volatility with a pretty high floor makes it very attractive.

I imagine there are thousands of collections out there with a nice 86 MJ or more and no other basketball cards.

[bedot]

Well, there is no such thing as a price cap on the GOAT. Jordan Fleer is an example. Not saying Trout will get there but I’m not ruling anything out with him.

The base update RC has tradition and casts a wider net than any other Trout rookie. If the pop was 500 for a PSA 10, the the card would be in the thousands of dollars already.

Again, not saying Trout will finish as the GOAT, but as long as he is continuing this career arc, I’m sure more than just Trout collectors or even baseball collectors will jump onto the bandwagon.

All I heard for years was his 2009 Base rookie auto was capped at 1K, 2K, now it is 8K as a PSA 10.

The base update RC will settle at a price long term, but it likely isn’t done growing.




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[jmscoggin]

I thought I heard that the canary 1/1 ended up with an IP auto?

There are pictures floating around here somewhere although I can't remember if it was the Update Canary, Sterling Canary or BC Canary. Either way, it's a damn shame that someone would deface such a rare and valuable item. The last time I saw the pictures was around 2013 and the memory isn't what it used to be.

[jstephens24]

ichirovault has the canary bowman I believe if that's the one yall are talking about. not signed IP

[jmscoggin]

ichirovault has the canary bowman I believe if that's the one yall are talking about. not signed IP

There is definitely a Canary signed IP, a red as well, I just can't remember from which product. It might have been 2011 Sterling the more I think about it. I even remember where it was done, OC Dugout in Anaheim. I searched for the thread but couldn't find it and the pictures probably wouldn't show up any longer anyways as they were likely PB.

[mainerunr]

So I have a few of these that are raw. If I were to grade, which is the way to go with these?

Another question, if a card is part of a complete set, is it something you would grade? If so, how do you keep it with the set?

I have a total of zero graded cards right now but I think if I were to grade anything, it would be these.

[monkeymcgee]

So I have a few of these that are raw. If I were to grade, which is the way to go with these?

Another question, if a card is part of a complete set, is it something you would grade? If so, how do you keep it with the set?

I have a total of zero graded cards right now but I think if I were to grade anything, it would be these.

I'm not even looking at BGS anymore unless it has an auto. I have a feeling I'm not alone. So, I'd say PSA unless you think it has a shot at Pristine.

[CoachBruno]

I'm not even looking at BGS anymore unless it has an auto. I have a feeling I'm not alone. So, I'd say PSA unless you think it has a shot at Pristine.

PSA 10's were a bit out of my range this past week when I had some funds free up (coincided nicely with today's 20% deal), so I pulled the trigger on two BGS quad 9.5's. Worth sending off to PSA to have them possibly cross-grade to 10's?

[fenwaykid]

EBay is definitely helping to drive these prices higher with the 15% and 20% off coupons. If a card sells for $400 it’s really only selling for $320+, but the last comp becomes $400 :)

[rainmaker]

PSA 10's were a bit out of my range this past week when I had some funds free up (coincided nicely with today's 20% deal), so I pulled the trigger on two BGS quad 9.5's. Worth sending off to PSA to have them possibly cross-grade to 10's?

unless you see something in the slab that doesnt check out, quad 9.5+ us175 are worth attempting to cross. :)!

the psa favoritism for this card is considerable.

[CoachBruno]

unless you see something in the slab that doesnt check out, quad 9.5+ us175 are worth attempting to cross. :)!

the psa favoritism for this card is considerable.


Bingo. I targeted the true gem BGS's because their prices were lagging behind PSA dimes the last few weeks and in terms of condition, I think they're fairly comparable to PSA 10's. In terms of value, BGS 4 x 9.5+'s seemed like the best deal right now on US175's. Just have to put in some effort and cross the fingers on the cross-grades.