Protocol for making a Trade with a BO Member with zero feedback?

[CaptainUgly]

What's the proper protocol for making a trade on the forums with a member that has zero feedback?
Both cards are worth $600 to $700.

[Rjk214]

I'd hold off sending until it's received (Especialy with a value of $500+)

[tkraft24]

I'd hold off sending until it's received (Especialy with a value of $500+)

This or you could find a reputable middle-man to facilities the trade. Adds a little expense but worth it if you really want to make the deal with peace of mind.

[mjohnatgt]

Yeah, send them both to COMC on a premium submission and then he buys yours for $500 there, then you buy his for $500. Trade completed.

[3124508 on COMC]

Yeah, send them both to COMC on a premium submission and then he buys yours for $500 there, then you buy his for $500. Trade completed.

Dumb idea unless someone is sitting on $500 of COMC credit. Especially when someone buys it in 5 seconds because it's worth $700.

[gobullz1]

This or you could find a reputable middle-man to facilities the trade. Adds a little expense but worth it if you really want to make the deal with peace of mind.

Basically have him send to a mod and you send to a mod and the mod send to both of you guys after he received both cards..and pay the man a little for his hassle and shipping :)!

[Davis]

Person with no feedback ships first. Once in hand, other guy ships. Try to ship priority 2-day the same day the card is received (if possible) to be courteous to the other guy.

[CaptainUgly]

Here is what happened and where I screwed up:
We agreed to a trade. We agreed to both ship Priority with signature confirmation. We both print our shipping labels and exchange them via text so that we can track. I mail mine and then notice the next morning that his has not been received at USPS. I notify him that I need to see his package as "Received" by the end of the day or I would be placing a "Package Intercept" on the package that I sent him. End of day comes and the status of his package has not been received by the USPS. I place a package intercept and notify him. He blows his top and said that I'm trying to rip him off. My package intercept does not work and now is going to be delivered this morning.

What can I possibly do now? I'm screwed, right?

[tkraft24]

Here is what happened and where I screwed up:
We agreed to a trade. We agreed to both ship Priority with signature confirmation. We both print our shipping labels and exchange them via text so that we can track. I mail mine and then notice the next morning that his has not been received at USPS. I notify him that I need to see his package as "Received" by the end of the day or I would be placing a "Package Intercept" on the package that I sent him. End of day comes and the status of his package has not been received by the USPS. I place a package intercept and notify him. He blows his top and said that I'm trying to rip him off. My package intercept does not work and now is going to be delivered this morning.

What can I possibly do now? I'm screwed, right?

I would try calling USPS to complete the intercept. Maybe others have experience? Other than that, you’re at the mercy of the other trader now. Hopefully he’s being honest and you don’t learn a lesson the hard way.

[CaptainUgly]

I would try calling USPS to complete the intercept. Maybe others have experience? Other than that, you’re at the mercy of the other trader now. Hopefully he’s being honest and you don’t learn a lesson the hard way.


I just tried calling the local USPS branch (where the package is currently at and will most likely be delivered in the next hour or two) and nobody will pick up the line. Yep, at his mercy and I have no doubt I'm screwed.

[anusinha]

Ideally, you would use a mod as an intermediary. You both send to him, and when both are recieved, he sends them to the appropriate receiver. Sounds like youre hosed

[AnthonyCorona]

To be fair, usps doesn't do a good job scanning. I've had a package go from label created straight to delivered. Only a few times but it's possible. Hope it all works out

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[tkraft24]

To be fair, usps doesn't do a good job scanning. I've had a package go from label created straight to delivered. Only a few times but it's possible. Hope it all works out

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Definitely true, happens all the time.

[mcpheely]

When did you ship, Thursday? Did he ever ship his card? Post his username and report him to the mods. Why would he accuse you of trying to rip him off if he didn't send his card?

[RAV2773]

Hopefully it works out for you. You might also want to let the community know the other member's user name just in case.

[mjohnatgt]

Dumb idea unless someone is sitting on $500 of COMC credit.

Everyone should.

[CaptainUgly]

I'm going to wait and see how this all shakes out before I post his name. If he makes off with my card and never really mailed his, I will make it known. I'm disappointed with myself for not requiring to receive his card first, or at least send through a third party. Just naive on my part.

[prospects]

you made a mistake unfortunately, but not all zero feedbackers are bad. I had zero feedback 5 months ago

[Flkrsn5]

I like the middle man idea. There are plenty of honest collectors on this site who would do it.

[Anderdale]

Is the other user online ? If he hasn't already popped in to make it known he shipped, I'd be pretty worried.

[ThoseBackPages]

im sorry for your loss

there are a lot of bad people that are greedy in this "hobby"

[ChrisNTx]

I like the middle man idea. There are plenty of honest collectors on this site who would do it.

This. Plenty of mods could do this

Or require to send first. I had to when I first started and it’s part of earning feedback and trust here.


Please post his name as well as report him to mods so no one else gets hosed by them

[tribefan26]

To be fair, usps doesn't do a good job scanning. I've had a package go from label created straight to delivered. Only a few times but it's possible. Hope it all works out

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Yep - San Jose is a black hole - they go in, don't get scanned and two weeks later they magically appear.

[mcpheely]

Does the other party claim to have shipped his end of the deal?

[21Pittsburgh58]

Most forums I’ve been on, anyone with 10 or less feedback on that site sends first.

It’s a trust thing and this one doesn’t seem to be working out. I sure hope I’m wrong!

Good luck OP!

[Big35Hurt]

you made a mistake unfortunately, but not all zero feedbackers are bad. I had zero feedback 5 months ago

Are your 20 feedbacks all from buying DeGrom cards? I'm asking for a friend.

[ThoseBackPages]

Are your 20 feedbacks all from buying DeGrom cards? I'm asking for a friend.

MEGA!

[Stech36]

Yeah, my first transaction on here was a trade. Sent mine first because the other guy had 100’s Of positive feedback. He sent mine out as soon as he received the item. I sent

[prospects]

Are your 20 feedbacks all from buying DeGrom cards? I'm asking for a friend.

Yes, I have built quite the super collection. I can sell you all in advance before degrom wins Cy young. 1 million shipped. U interested?

[3124508 on COMC]

Everyone should.

I wish. :)

[SaveMeTheGum]

The very first trade I did on this site I got ripped off -- other person sent me an empty toploader that was supposed to be a $1000 card. From then on, I will only trade if the other person is ok shipping to me first and I ship once I receive unless the other person is a BO regular in good standing, or someone I've traded with before. Unfortunately, there are plenty of bad people out there -- ruins it for everyone else.

[Big35Hurt]

Yes, I have built quite the super collection. I can sell you all in advance before degrom wins Cy young. 1 million shipped. U interested?

Nice! Maybe once he establishes himself as a top 10 pitcher in baseball.

[prospects]

Nice! Maybe once he establishes himself as a top 10 pitcher in baseball.

this made me FURIOUS.

[21Pittsburgh58]

The very first trade I did on this site I got ripped off -- other person sent me an empty toploader that was supposed to be a $1000 card. From then on, I will only trade if the other person is ok shipping to me first and I ship once I receive unless the other person is a BO regular in good standing, or someone I've traded with before. Unfortunately, there are plenty of bad people out there -- ruins it for everyone else.

Awesome avatar!

Bummer about that trade.

[IronMonkey415]

The first time I traded on this site i think I got ripped off as well. It was a kid that collected Colt's card. Ever since then I hate kids.

I HATE THEM!!!!

[Nutcracker33]

The very first trade I did on this site I got ripped off -- other person sent me an empty toploader that was supposed to be a $1000 card. From then on, I will only trade if the other person is ok shipping to me first and I ship once I receive unless the other person is a BO regular in good standing, or someone I've traded with before. Unfortunately, there are plenty of bad people out there -- ruins it for everyone else.

exact same thing happened to me as well, i havent trade since.


sorry about what happened to you as well, hope it all works out

[hornedfrog1985]

To be fair, usps doesn't do a good job scanning. I've had a package go from label created straight to delivered. Only a few times but it's possible. Hope it all works out

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This happened to me on a trade a few months back. I was bugging out cus the guy was kinda hard to contact, and then my card shows up in like 10 days... not once scanned.

[CaptainUgly]

This happened to me on a trade a few months back. I was bugging out cus the guy was kinda hard to contact, and then my card shows up in like 10 days... not once scanned.



The conversation (through PM) has been civil this morning...so I'm hoping for a peaceful resolution. I'm encouraged to hear that others have actually mailed their packages and the tracking just didn't give accurate status and that it all worked out. Thanks for the input.

[ThoseBackPages]

what card did you ship out?

[CaptainUgly]

what card did you ship out?

PSA 8 2011 Topps Update Wal-Mart Blue Mike Trout RC

[ThoseBackPages]

PSA 8 2011 Topps Update Wal-Mart Blue Mike Trout RC

good. you have the serial number, so we can keep an eye out for it if he were to try to sell it

[superdan49]

good. you have the serial number, so we can keep an eye out for it if he were to try to sell it

My guess is he would probably crack it out of the PSA 8 holder and sell it raw. Not only would he probably get a little more money for a raw example than a PSA 8, it also eliminates the serial number on the holder.

[CaptainUgly]

good. you have the serial number, so we can keep an eye out for it if he were to try to sell it


The Diamond Anniversary, Cognac, Wal-Mart, Target and Base don't have serial numbers on the card. If he wanted to scam...he would probably just crack it out of the PSA case. I'm really hoping for a peaceful resolution.

[chezball]

Sorry to hear about this OP, but why on earth would you deal with somebody with 0 feedback?

[MBMiller25]

I hope this works out for you. Did the other party confirm they got your card today? Has there been any updates to the tracking number since you posted this? Good Luck

[CaptainUgly]

Sorry to hear about this OP, but why on earth would you deal with somebody with 0 feedback?

I should have been more careful...but I figured if he sent me a tracking number with signature confirmation...then I would be okay. I didn't even think about him just paying for postage and not sending the item.

I hope this works out for you. Did the other party confirm they got your card today? Has there been any updates to the tracking number since you posted this? Good Luck

The item arrived at his home post office in N.Y today but still hasn't updated to show "delivered". I know the package intercept did not work because I got an email notification saying it was unsuccessful. This is my fault, was just looking to see what other do when dealing with a zero feedback trade partner. I like the ldea of sending the item to a third party and just pay them to facilitate the deal.

[unclemonkey]

Man that sucks...

[ThoseBackPages]

that user is committing a crime

contact Houdini and contact his local police department

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Did he have eBay feedback?

[notfast]

So what is the status of the card YOU are supposed to receive?

[Peties Army]

So what is the status of the card YOU are supposed to receive?

That’s the point of his post

[CaptainUgly]

that user is committing a crime

contact Houdini and contact his local police department

I will if his card does not show up next week.

Did he have eBay feedback?

Yes, he's got good (but limited) feedback on Ebay. I should not have trusted a BO member with zero feedback...but I also had zero feedback last year at this time. I failed to remember that my first few transactions were just straight up purchases, where the risk is much less.

So what is the status of the card YOU are supposed to receive?

His card that he supposedly mailed on Thursday is still showing as not received by the USPS.

[speedyjg13]

How many days ago did you ship your card and how much longer (days) you giving this 0 feedback guy until you post his user name?

[WhyMarinersWhy]

I will if his card does not show up next week.



Yes, he's got good (but limited) feedback on Ebay. I should not have trusted a BO member with zero feedback...but I also had zero feedback last year at this time. I failed to remember that my first few transactions were just straight up purchases, where the risk is much less.



His card that he supposedly mailed on Thursday is still showing as not received by the USPS.

I'm probably in the minority here, but for me feedback is feedback. Whenever people buy, sell, or trade on here they base everything off of eBay... yet they ignore eBay feedback. It makes absolutely no sense.

In any case, I hope everything works out for you.

[CaptainUgly]

How many days ago did you ship your card and how much longer (days) you giving this 0 feedback guy until you post his user name?


We were both supposed to ship our respective cards on Thursday. I'm really holding out hope (after exchanging PM's this morning) that he indeed mailed it out on Thursday and the tracking information just hasn't updated. I will give him until at least the middle of next week before I post his name. He has accused me of being impatient...so I really want this to be an honest mistake and everything to work out.

[glen87]

We were both supposed to ship our respective cards on Thursday. I'm really holding out hope (after exchanging PM's this morning) that he indeed mailed it out on Thursday and the tracking information just hasn't updated. I will give him until at least the middle of next week before I post his name. He has accused me of being impatient...so I really want this to be an honest mistake and everything to work out.

sign up for email updates, that will get it jump started quickly (typically)

also - if it was not sent thursday as claimed, will you leave appropriate FB?

[glen87]

also - what is the current status of the package you sent

[speedyjg13]

We were both supposed to ship our respective cards on Thursday. I'm really holding out hope (after exchanging PM's this morning) that he indeed mailed it out on Thursday and the tracking information just hasn't updated. I will give him until at least the middle of next week before I post his name. He has accused me of being impatient...so I really want this to be an honest mistake and everything to work out.

If he's from NY and you are from California, you should get it by Monday at the latest. Also, if the two of you used the same shipping service/speed, since he received your end of the deal, you should have received his as well.

[CaptainUgly]

sign up for email updates, that will get it jump started quickly (typically)

also - if it was not sent thursday as claimed, will you leave appropriate FB?

Thanks for the tip...I will go sign up for email updates and request that he does the same. I really don't know if he mailed it on Thursday, for the tracking info isn't matching what he is claiming. I wish he would have dropped it off at the post office counter, like I always do on transactions that are $300+.

also - what is the current status of the package you sent

See the attached.

[Chicharito]

Sorry for your loss OP

[3124508 on COMC]

Thanks for the tip...I will go sign up for email updates and request that he does the same. I really don't know if he mailed it on Thursday, for the tracking info isn't matching what he is claiming. I wish he would have dropped it off at the post office counter, like I always do on transactions that are $300+.



See the attached.

Call that PO first thing Monday morning to see if the intercept can be executed. Item has not been delivered yet. You still have a chance. Under no circumstances should you trust the other party.

[hornedfrog1985]

Sucks man. Ive been ripped off a couple times in the roughly 20 years i been buying and selling stuff online. People are sleezy. First time i was ripped off was for something worth a few hundred dollars when i was 14... karma gets most of these people.

[ThoseBackPages]

what is he sending for the Trout Blue?

[superdan49]

It says available for pickup. Can you not call that post office early Monday morning when it opens and tell them to deny pick up? Also the guy lives 15 minutes from me.

[ThoseBackPages]

It says available for pickup. Can you not call that post office early Monday morning when it opens and tell them to deny pick up? Also the guy lives 15 minutes from me.

Dan, you're up there? NICE!

[superdan49]

Dan, you're up there? NICE!

Yessir, the good old Capital District.

[moosetequila]

If he's from NY and you are from California, you should get it by Monday at the latest. Also, if the two of you used the same shipping service/speed, since he received your end of the deal, you should have received his as well.

Can be easily Tuesday

[goatofwonder]

I wish he would have dropped it off at the post office counter, like I always do on transactions that are $300.

I’ve pretty much gotten to the point that I take every package and drop off at the counter anymore no matter how much it’s worth. Good luck with your situation.

[SaveMeTheGum]

Sick BODA on this. I'm sure we've got some upstate NYers down for some fun.

[hornedfrog1985]

I’ve pretty much gotten to the point that I take every package and drop off at the counter anymore no matter how much it’s worth. Good luck with your situation.

I basically do this too. You have to watch them scan it or get a receipt

[hche]

Just to be clear, you can ask lower feedback trader to send first if you both agreed but it is not a rule in this forum for lower feedback trader to send first.

Should have gone through a mod for the trade. If no update to package by Monday, I would get a mod involved.

GL!

[KhalDrogo]

I’ve pretty much gotten to the point that I take every package and drop off at the counter anymore no matter how much it’s worth. Good luck with your situation.
I do the same. If I drop anything off in the bin at the post office before it opens, it sits around until after hours to get scanned. Sometimes doesn’t even leave the building until the next day.

[superdan49]

OP did your package get updated?

[unclemonkey]

I’ve pretty much gotten to the point that I take every package and drop off at the counter anymore no matter how much it’s worth. Good luck with your situation.

This!!!

And don't be afraid to use registered mail. It must be signed at every point along the way and kept in USPS safe.

They probably could have more easily intercepted the package.

From South Carolina, I have had registered mail make it to California in a few days and up ten days for North east deliveries.

[CaptainUgly]

I've tried calling the SCHENECTADY, NY Post office four times this morning and each time it tells me that a "supervisor is not available, please call back later". As you can see from the attached, my package is showing that it hasn't been delivered and is available for pickup. I would love it if they would intercept this package and send it back to me!

[rainmaker]

its been 3 days and nothing on the other persons end? please post username for everyone to see in the event messages are coming through to bait others.

its an interesting thing making trades on here. i usually vet anyone i am doing a trade with through the itrader, ebay and a quick google search of the username.

the whole sending first thing is tricky. i have sent first to a few times but probably wouldnt again. it didnt bother me until i got the feeling some guys use it as a dick measuring contest which can admittedly be a turn off. 'i have more trades so i deserve this or that..' i dont know it just rubs me the wrong way.

i hope things turn out okay for you bud.

[ThoseBackPages]

time to call the police

[Anderdale]

If I was the other guy and honest I would have already made my presence known in this thread. The fact he's laying low is a pretty sure sign.

[speedyjg13]

If I was the other guy and honest I would have already made my presence known in this thread. The fact he's laying low is a pretty sure sign.

This.........

[speedyjg13]

its been 3 days and nothing on the other persons end? please post username for everyone to see in the event messages are coming through to bait others.

its an interesting thing making trades on here. i usually vet anyone i am doing a trade with through the itrader, ebay and a quick google search of the username.

the whole sending first thing is tricky. i have sent first to a few times but probably wouldnt again. it didnt bother me until i got the feeling some guys use it as a dick measuring contest which can admittedly be a turn off. 'i have more trades so i deserve this or that..' i dont know it just rubs me the wrong way.

i hope things turn out okay for you bud.

This as well, help the BO community out

[Bassplayah101]

We were both supposed to ship our respective cards on Thursday. I'm really holding out hope (after exchanging PM's this morning) that he indeed mailed it out on Thursday and the tracking information just hasn't updated. I will give him until at least the middle of next week before I post his name. He has accused me of being impatient...so I really want this to be an honest mistake and everything to work out.

impatient?

This guy has made his bed already.

At this point whether you get it or not, I want to know his BO username and Ebay name.

Post it.

[SirTommyWinAlot]

Never trust a user with 0 feedback. For all you know, that could be a 12 year old kid or career thief. I'd threaten him with a police report.

Try utilizing the information on this site:

https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/

see if you can get a postal inspector to stop the delivery of your package.

[twoten01]

If I was the other guy and honest I would have already made my presence known in this thread. The fact he's laying low is a pretty sure sign.

:)!

Sorry OP this guy scammed you. All we have is our word(especially online), if my integrity was questioned in a thread on here you damn well better believe id have the 2nd post in the thread, not disappear for 4 pages. even if he sends, please post his username, I want to make sure to not do any business with him

[Bassplayah101]

:)!

Sorry OP this guy scammed you. All we have is our word(especially online), if my integrity was questioned in a thread on here you damn well better believe id have the 2nd post in the thread, not disappear for 4 pages. even if he sends, please post his username, I want to make sure to not do any business with him

You aint kiddin.

[vintage9788]

I am only an hour from Schenectady...... I can go find this person!!! haha

[NMCBravesfan]

Doing package intercept with USPS is useless. I've ordered stuff from Amazon before that they screwed up something and put in an intercept order multiple days before scheduled delivery and USPS happily delivered it to me anyways. If Amazon can't get USPS to do it, no one can.

[CaptainUgly]

I was holding off on posting this guys information, just in case he really had made an honest mistake by not scanning the package that he was sending to me. It's pretty clear that he's not on the level, so here is this guys info:

[vanpatten]

I've had USPS labels go from printed to delivered with no location scans in between, so it does happen. However, I agree with the other members, if this dude is as innocent as he claims, he would've been in here three pages ago defending himself. He's online right now so maybe now that you've posted his address he will grow a pair and come out of the woodwork (doubtful). Sorry about your loss OP, shitty people are everywhere unfortunately.

[mfw13]

When sending high-priced cards always use FedEx...it's not that much more expensive...never understand why people continue to trust valuable items to the USPS.....

[pete2345]

I actually just came across this post.I did nothing wrong here other than not going directly to the PO when shipping the card which I have never done before and certainly won't make that mistake again.I shipped the card exactly when I said I did and if you check the tracking # it showed up today in Sacramento California.Im not sure how it got across country without being scanned but that is not my fault.I sent it priority mail with signature confirmation just how I said I would.also we will see how honest this guy is because I just received a call from my local post office telling me where the card is. And I need to alert that PO in order to stop delivery.And so far no luck it says all supervisors are busy. So if you get my card I would appreciate it coming back to me.

[Bowman1951]

He LIVES!!!

[rainmaker]

I was holding off on posting this guys information, just in case he really had made an honest mistake by not scanning the package that he was sending to me. It's pretty clear that he's not on the level, so here is this guys info:

EBAY: lonar_pete
Blowout ID: pete2345 --- https://www.blowoutforums.com/member.php?u=65243
Email: peterlonardelli2@yahoo.com

See attached if you want to read the correspondence and see what a gem this guy is.

to be honest it takes a sack to offer your home address and rip someone off. perhaps things did just get mixed up with usps?

[superdan49]

to be honest it takes a sack to offer your home address and rip someone off.

True words spoken here.

[moosetequila]

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

[glen87]

I actually just came across this post.I did nothing wrong here other than not going directly to the PO when shipping the card which I have never done before and certainly won't make that mistake again.I shipped the card exactly when I said I did and if you check the tracking # it showed up today in Sacramento California.Im not sure how it got across country without being scanned but that is not my fault.I sent it priority mail with signature confirmation just how I said I would.also we will see how honest this guy is because I just received a call from my local post office telling me where the card is. And I need to alert that PO in order to stop delivery.And so far no luck it says all supervisors are busy. So if you get my card I would appreciate it coming back to me.
can you post what the first scan in the tracking is

where and when it was first scanned, not the actual tracking number

[SirTommyWinAlot]

I actually just came across this post.I did nothing wrong here other than not going directly to the PO when shipping the card which I have never done before and certainly won't make that mistake again.I shipped the card exactly when I said I did and if you check the tracking # it showed up today in Sacramento California.Im not sure how it got across country without being scanned but that is not my fault.I sent it priority mail with signature confirmation just how I said I would.also we will see how honest this guy is because I just received a call from my local post office telling me where the card is. And I need to alert that PO in order to stop delivery.And so far no luck it says all supervisors are busy. So if you get my card I would appreciate it coming back to me.

Instead of Trout you should have traded for The Mook Man.

and Lord Benny has just left the yard.

[BostonNut]

I actually just came across this post.I did nothing wrong here other than not going directly to the PO when shipping the card which I have never done before and certainly won't make that mistake again.I shipped the card exactly when I said I did and if you check the tracking # it showed up today in Sacramento California.Im not sure how it got across country without being scanned but that is not my fault.I sent it priority mail with signature confirmation just how I said I would.also we will see how honest this guy is because I just received a call from my local post office telling me where the card is. And I need to alert that PO in order to stop delivery.And so far no luck it says all supervisors are busy. So if you get my card I would appreciate it coming back to me.

I must have missed it earlier in the thread...what is the tracking number?

[COMCMax]

https://i.gifer.com/1eJ3.gif

[CaptainUgly]

Yes, it finally showed up in Sacramento...so this might actually play out fairly!

[SirTommyWinAlot]

Yes, it finally showed up in Sacramento...so this might actually play out fairly!

Alright, you two can kiss and make up.

[Flurrious]

yeah, i would expect that i send first until i have at least 10 feedback, especially for high value cards.

[ThoseBackPages]

update?

[hornedfrog1985]

Id say just use ur noggin. Maybe ask for a pic with their user name and date. If they get annoyed over making someone feel comfortable dont do it. Ask for other refs. Message eachother on ebay to verify their feedback, etc.

[CaptainUgly]

update?


Fortunately this story has a happy ending. I will be leaving positive feedback for Pete, despite my initial concerns with how this trade was moving forward. I have learned a valuable lesson in how to better handle a trade with a new B.O. member. As you can see with the attached, the package showed up yesterday at my local P.O.

[AnthonyCorona]

Group hug

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[Big35Hurt]

Fortunately this story has a happy ending. I will be leaving positive feedback for Pete, despite my initial concerns with how this trade was moving forward. I have learned a valuable lesson in how to better handle a trade with a new B.O. member. As you can see with the attached, the package showed up yesterday at my local P.O.

That's great news. However, I don't think it's really appropriate to show a picture that reveals his full name and address as well as yours.

[IronMonkey415]

That sounds Italian.

I'm into names and the folklore, so I like to figure out the nationality based on it.

[CaptainUgly]

That's great news. However, I don't think it's really appropriate to show a picture that reveals his full name and address as well as yours.

I'll take the pic down...thanks for heads up!

[pete2345]

Happy everything worked out good also. Also learned never to mail anything of value in one of the dreaded blue boxes. I'm a go to the counter for now on kinda guy.

[superdan49]

Alright, you two can kiss and make up.

I'll take the pic down...thanks for heads up!

Happy this worked out!! You should delete post #87 though.

[dictoresno]

you know, ive been on different forums for years and bought and sold items on forums many many times with feedback threads to prove it. I had to start somewhere. I joined BO forums last year and to this date only have 3 feedbacks from selling and trading cards. however, I have 100% 182 positive feedbacks on ebay. you cant always judge eachother based off of feedbacks on this forum alone. just because someone has zero feedback, doesn't mean they cant be trusted. it just means they haven't done any deals here yet. you had the guys name and valid address. the chances of someone trying to rip you off with that info, as stated, is ballsy.

and on a side note, ive had things shipped to me that showed ZERO tracking info including PO acceptance, and then all of a sudden delivered out of nowhere. so guys need to sit back and relax and give things a chance to work out before jumping the gun. as long as both parties are keeping an open line of communication with eachother, roll with it.

[Bassplayah101]

Group hug

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Agreed.
Im glad to see this end well.
OP, you learned a valuable lesson and this thread is also an example to all new members. Until you display trust, YOU send first, no questions asked. That's all we have on this site is peoples word.

About a month ago, I traded some heritage cards via PWE with a new member, and flat out told him that because hes new and has zero Itrader, he needs to send first.
There was never any problem, and the trader even asked me for direction on how to send cards properly via pwe.
I took pics showing him how I tape and package my cards up and he followed it to a T.
He followed up at every turn, let me know when he sent, and I obliged on the other end.
The whole transaction was flawless, and he also learned how to be a successful trader on this site, with integrity.
As a result, he ended up with more cards than we even agreed on, as I felt it was necessary to throw him some additional commons for his set as a "good job" gesture.

Its not a problem if youre new, but until you learn how this site conducts transactions, be the grasshopper, ask questions and accept/follow direction from senior members, and above all, communicate. It takes literally zero effort to logon with your mobile device, and send a PM.
If new members can manage all of this you will eventually be a trusted member.

[ThoseBackPages]

So, what does a WM Blue Trout PSA 8 get back in trade nowadays? :)

[pete2345]

It was a 2012 Bowman Sterling trout auto

[pete2345]

Refractor /199

[ThoseBackPages]

NICE!

[NMCBravesfan]

It doesn't help to build feedback when around half the people on here don't leave any after completing a deal. I've got 19 positive feedback despite having done somewhere around 35-40 transactions on here.

[mfw13]

you know, ive been on different forums for years and bought and sold items on forums many many times with feedback threads to prove it. I had to start somewhere. I joined BO forums last year and to this date only have 3 feedbacks from selling and trading cards. however, I have 100% 182 positive feedbacks on ebay. you cant always judge eachother based off of feedbacks on this forum alone. just because someone has zero feedback, doesn't mean they cant be trusted. it just means they haven't done any deals here yet. you had the guys name and valid address. the chances of someone trying to rip you off with that info, as stated, is ballsy.

Agreed.

I've done only one deal on Blowout so far, but I've got 2000+ positive feedback over 18 years on EBay.....