2018 NBA Awards

[Cal27]

The 2018 NBA Awards is tonight, the last must-see NBA event of the season.

Any predictions?

[tjforce]

The 2018 NBA Awards is tonight, the last must-see NBA event of the season.

Any predictions?

Harden MVP
Simmons ROY
Gobert DPoy

[Tarheelsfan2012]

These aren't my picks, just my guesses as to who will win.

Harden- MVP
Simmons- ROY
Casey- COY
Oladipo- MIP
Gobert- DPOY
Lou Williams- 6th Man

[ThoseBackPages]

BENNY!!!!!

[Boomer105]

I won’t be watching because having the awards show after the playoffs is a stupid idea. Who even cares at this point

[CC71]

didn't they used to announce the mvp before the playoffs started?

[motu79]

didn't they used to announce the mvp before the playoffs started?

Yeah they did! I still remember the year Dirk won the MVP. His #1 seed Mavs got dumped in the 1st round and he then got awarded the MVP during the 2nd round I believe. ha

[Andy5]

MVP - Harden
ROY - Simmons
COY - Stevens
DPOY - Gobert
MIP - Oladipo
6MOY - Lou Will

[exoticprince]

MVP - Harden
ROY - Simmons
COY - Stevens
DPOY - Gobert
MIP - Oladipo
6MOY - Lou Will

Exactly my thoughts on what will happen. Pretty certain this’ll be the outcome

[abidtsteele]

MVP - Harden
ROY - Simmons
COY - Stevens
DPOY - Gobert
MIP - Oladipo
6MOY - Lou Will

I almost agree with this as well. I think they would have given it to Casey but can't look stupid after he got fired.

Also in a major upset to James Harden, Michael Jordan will win MVP once again

[gomiamigo]

Harden
Simmons ainec
Embiid - advanced stats prove it out

[Tarheelsfan2012]

I think they would have given it to Casey but can't look stupid after he got fired.



George Karl won the award several years ago and was fired by the Nuggets.

[BigRhino]

I would love to see simmons and mitchell share ROY honors

[Jasondr91]

I would love to see simmons and mitchell share ROY honors

This is very possible.

[dasiegel]

These aren't my picks, just my guesses as to who will win.

Harden- MVP
Simmons- ROY
Casey- COY
Oladipo- MIP
Gobert- DPOY
Lou Williams- 6th Man

there is a 99% chance you are 100% correct

[smalltown]

The 2018 NBA Awards is tonight, the last must-see NBA event of the season. Any predictions?

"Must see" is a stretch. I'll just look at the winners later.

[JHH]

Simmons and Mitchell for ROTY just like Kidd and Hill :)

[theLUCKYshow]

Is this the 1st time they've done this? I know they havent done anything like this recently but did they back in the day?

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[duron]

the last must-see NBA event of the season.

I lol'ed

[SHowley2003]

Gross. I knew it was coming but gross. Mitchell was ROY with Tatum as the runner up. Simmons had to be a little embarrassed. It’s like the kid who graduated two years ago dating a high school student and being named Prom King.

[ThoseBackPages]

YUS!!!!!!!!!

#ROY!!!!!!!!!!

[the27guy]

Gross. I knew it was coming but gross. Mitchell was ROY with Tatum as the runner up. Simmons had to be a little embarrassed. It’s like the kid who graduated two years ago dating a high school student and being named Prom King.

He’s going to be the first repeat ROY in the history of the league next year. Just watch.

[88horsepower]

George Karl won the award several years ago and was fired by the Nuggets.

Yeah, and it’s worked out so well for them since. :D

[majestik101]

How is Simmons rookie of the year? This is his second season.

[ThoseBackPages]

How is Simmons rookie of the year? This is his second season.

did not play in 2016/17

[PKIPP]

Mitchell should've won. Players voted mitchell, sportswriters don't know #@#@#@#@.

[majestik101]

did not play in 2016/17


Yeah but he was drafted in 2016. Weird.

[Andy5]

Gross. I knew it was coming but gross. Mitchell was ROY with Tatum as the runner up. Simmons had to be a little embarrassed. It’s like the kid who graduated two years ago dating a high school student and being named Prom King.

If playoffs counted, I would absolutely agree with you. Fact is, they don't. Simmons regular season was unreal.

Yeah but he was drafted in 2016. Weird.

Blake Griffin? David Robinson? Embiid was a chance last year? MPJr in a couple years time ( if he sits out this season)?

[drobfan8]

Mitchell wasn't the best Rookie though.

Same old people whining.

Maybe email the NBA and let them know to change the rule then, but according to the current rules, Simmons was ROY and it wasn't that close.

15/8/8/2/1 is freaking nuts for a guy people were calling the next Beasley.

Mitchell is awesome though.

[PKIPP]

Mitchell wasn't the best Rookie though.

Same old people whining.

Maybe email the NBA and let them know to change the rule then, but according to the current rules, Simmons was ROY and it wasn't that close.

15/8/8/2/1 is freaking nuts for a guy people were calling the next Beasley.

Mitchell is awesome though.

Problem is, he was the best rookie. The players recognized him as such. Those are the guys who matter most. I don't think mitchell is losing much sleep over the opinions of guys who couldn't run down the court twice without having a heart attack though.

[drobfan8]

Problem is, he was the best rookie. The players recognized him as such. Those are the guys who matter most. I don't think mitchell is losing much sleep over the opinions of guys who couldn't run down the court twice without having a heart attack though.

Oooh sick burn bro.

Says the guy whining and has a Simmons pic as a bald guy.

Seeing as I still play, I'm good to get up and down. 34 isn't that old.

I love the pettiness you're bringing to the forums. We need more of that for sure. :rolleyes:

Simmons ROY!!!

Ha ha. :)!

[SHowley2003]

I love when the coach of the year is a guy who just got fired! Well done NBA.

[DajuanWagner]

BENNY!!!!!



Huh??

[Tarheelsfan2012]

Yeah, and it’s worked out so well for them since. :D

Brian Shaw wasn't as great as they thought he would be. I still remember when he turned down the Bobcats job back in the day because he was waiting on a better situation.

[moosetequila]

HAHAHA... loving the DM fan boys...


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[PKIPP]

Oooh sick burn bro.

Says the guy whining and has a Simmons pic as a bald guy.

Seeing as I still play, I'm good to get up and down. 34 isn't that old.

I love the pettiness you're bringing to the forums. We need more of that for sure. :rolleyes:

Simmons ROY!!!

Ha ha. :)!

Was not referring to you, I was referring to those sportswriters that have votes for the awards.

[PKIPP]

Oooh sick burn bro.

Says the guy whining and has a Simmons pic as a bald guy.

Seeing as I still play, I'm good to get up and down. 34 isn't that old.

I love the pettiness you're bringing to the forums. We need more of that for sure. :rolleyes:

Simmons ROY!!!

Ha ha. :)!

Also I'm quite sure I'm taking you over Ben Simmons in a 3 point contest.

[drobfan8]

Was not referring to you, I was referring to those sportswriters that have votes for the awards.

Oh phew, I was ready for the challenge.

My bad man

Also I'm quite sure I'm taking you over Ben Simmons in a 3 point contest.

I could take Simmons on for sure.

I actually don't think he'll ever get that shot.

[jj2]

Gross. I knew it was coming but gross. Mitchell was ROY with Tatum as the runner up. Simmons had to be a little embarrassed. It’s like the kid who graduated two years ago dating a high school student and being named Prom King.

Yeah, nah, not really.

[jj2]

How is Simmons rookie of the year? This is his second season.

Blake Griffin says hi.

[SHowley2003]

I want a Panini Instant card of Bill Russell giving Barkley the finger!

[jj2]

If I'm Mitchell I'm not letting my sponsor get me involved in these sorts of petty, cheap shots.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-awards-donovan-mitchell-trolls-ben-simmons-one-more-time-with-rookie-written-on-van/

[drobfan8]

I'm very happy for Gobert.

It's great they overlooked the games missed to give it the guy that was clearly the most dominant defender.

Is there gonna be an upset at all? LeBron for MVP?

[drobfan8]

If I'm Mitchell I'm not letting my sponsor get me involved in these sorts of petty, cheap shots.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-awards-donovan-mitchell-trolls-ben-simmons-one-more-time-with-rookie-written-on-van/

I agree, especially when there's a few on these boards saying they don't like Simmons' attitude.

Mitchell probably got a few more sheckles from Adidas to do it, but still, pretty immature and petty. He should be better than that.

[moosetequila]

If I'm Mitchell I'm not letting my sponsor get me involved in these sorts of petty, cheap shots.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-awards-donovan-mitchell-trolls-ben-simmons-one-more-time-with-rookie-written-on-van/

Weak... let him make like a female and whine

[TMILL]

How is Simmons rookie of the year? This is his second season.

UD Supreme Hard Court released his 2016 rookie in 2018. Same thing.

[messier2]

Pretty lame show so far. I'm sure everyone is bored to death in the audience.

[SHowley2003]

Yeah, nah, not really.

Yeah, no, really.

[Cavaliercards]

Simmons played 0 games last year, this is his Rookie Season as outlined by NBA Rules. Thus he is rookie of the Year.

[SHowley2003]

This musical performer has such impressive stage presence. The energy is electric. I mean standing along on the corner of the stage whispering into a mic? The crowd must be busting at the seams on this performance.

[jj2]

Simmons played 0 games last year, this is his Rookie Season as outlined by NBA Rules. Thus he is rookie of the Year.

It seems like this has been a very hard concept to grasp for some people, Mitchell included.

It's not as if there's no precedence here.

[moosetequila]

Simmons played 0 games last year, this is his Rookie Season as outlined by NBA Rules. Thus he is rookie of the Year.

Sorry, but DM Fan Boys do not want to hear anything about rules, or assists, rebounds, steals, blocked shots, passing Magic on the Rookie Triple Double list etc... :cry:

[SHowley2003]

Simmons played 0 games last year, this is his Rookie Season as outlined by NBA Rules. Thus he is rookie of the Year.

Rookie by definition is “a member of an athletic team in his or her first full season”. This was Simmons’ 2nd full season as a member of the NBA Philadelphia 76ers. The concept of 1st vs. 2nd season is hard for so many to understand.

[Andy5]

Simmons played 0 games last year, this is his Rookie Season as outlined by NBA Rules. Thus he is rookie of the Year.

Guarantee you if Mitchell was the one who sat out a year then won ROY, he would not be getting this much criticism or hate.

[SHowley2003]

Sorry, but DM Fan Boys do not want to hear anything about rules, or assists, rebounds, steals, blocked shots, passing Magic on the Rookie Triple Double list etc... :cry:

No, what DM fanboys understand is that 5 years from now DM will still be relevant while Simmons is remembered as the “next great thing” that never panned out.

[Cavaliercards]

Rookie by definition is “a member of an athletic team in his or her first full season”. This was Simmons’ 2nd full season as a member of the NBA Philadelphia 76ers. The concept of 1st vs. 2nd season is hard for so many to understand.

In his first full season, full as in playing with the team. How many games did he play last year? 0

NBA states once a player plays a game they are eligible that year and only that year for Rookie of the Year.

Again he played in 0 prior to this season.

[SHowley2003]

In his first full season, full as in playing with the team. How many games did he play last year? 0

NBA states once a player plays a game they are eligible that year and only that year for Rookie of the Year.

Again he played in 0 prior to this season.

Was he an employed member of an NBA team or not in 2016-17?

[Cavaliercards]

No, what DM fanboys understand is that 5 years from now DM will still be relevant while Simmons is remembered as the “next great thing” that never panned out.

Both of them could easily end up with that. Not a fanboy of either, but Mitchell could be Brandon Roy 2.0 and Simmons could be Justise Winslow 2.0

[Cavaliercards]

Was he an employed member of an NBA team or not in 2016-17?

Was he actively playing in games in 2016-17? Yes or no?

Answer is No.

This is very clear-cut and NBA said so prior to this season.

[moosetequila]

No, what DM fanboys understand is that 5 years from now DM will still be relevant while Simmons is remembered as the “next great thing” that never panned out.Hahahaha... :cry:

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[WalterAZ31]

Gross. I knew it was coming but gross. Mitchell was ROY with Tatum as the runner up. Simmons had to be a little embarrassed. It’s like the kid who graduated two years ago dating a high school student and being named Prom King.

thanks, I was waiting to read something dumb all day and was losing hope with 1 hour left

[moosetequila]

thanks, I was waiting to read something dumb all day and was losing hope with 1 hour left

To be fair, his statement was WAY beyond that :)!

[dgbarnes]

No, what DM fanboys understand is that 5 years from now DM will still be relevant while Simmons is remembered as the “next great thing” that never panned out.

Well that’s a stretch.

[RedSoxFan28]

Maybe Tatum or Mitchell can win it next year

[SHowley2003]

thanks, I was waiting to read something dumb all day and was losing hope with 1 hour left


To be fair, his statement was WAY beyond that :)!

So how much money do you guys have “invested” in Simmons cards?

[Cavaliercards]

Maybe Tatum or Mitchell can win it next year

If they hadn't played games this year, they could have.

[moosetequila]

So how much money do you guys have “invested” in Simmons cards?

Not enough!!! :)!

[Cavaliercards]

If HS guy graduated 2 years ago

that would put him graduating in 2016

meaning he has been in college for 2 years and last year he was eligible for Prom King was 2016, not 2017, not 2018.

Simmons was eligible for ROY in his first year he played in the NBA, not Spring of 2016 when he was at LSU.

[the27guy]

2018 KIA ROY Award:
Voters: Manny Navaro, Nate Taylor, Ryan Wolstat, Richard Walker, etc.
Winner: @BenSimmons25

2018 NBA Player's Association ROY Award:
Voters: Kevin Durant, LeBron James, Stephen Curry, James Harden, CP3, etc.
Winner: @spidadmitchell

[ThoseBackPages]

i am now trying to buy PSA 9 Tatum's & DMs

problem is, sellers are on the crack with their pricing

[ThoseBackPages]

Mitchell would have had a better shot if he were on a hobby friendly team

[moosetequila]

Mitchell would have had a better shot if he were on a hobby friendly team

And had at least ONE double-double... not counting whatever he was doing in that black van.

[jj2]

Maybe Tatum or Mitchell can win it next year

I lol'd.

[trixstar]

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[M4YH3M1]

The snake gets the feel good community award.

The one when you have to give away tonnes of money so people pretend to like you again...

[M4YH3M1]

Maybe Tatum or Mitchell can win it next year

I demand MORE SALT!!! :cry:

[JHH]

Both of them could easily end up with that. Not a fanboy of either, but Mitchell could be Brandon Roy 2.0 and Simmons could be Justise Winslow 2.0

Just curious where did the "Justise Winslow" comparison come from?

[drobfan8]

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Stats are cool, the story of LeBron's life.
But Harden lead his team to the best record in the whole league right?

Bron got his team to 4th in the woeful East and a losing record vs the West.

It's gotta mean something.

Although I have to admit, I thought Lebron could have sprung the upset here, especially with the games Harden missed.

[tjforce]

Stats are cool, the story of LeBron's life.
But Harden lead his team to the best record in the whole league right?

Bron got his team to 4th in the woeful East and a losing record vs the West.

It's gotta mean something.

Although I have to admit, I thought Lebron could have sprung the upset here, especially with the games Harden missed.

Harden deserved the MVP. LeBron was the best player on the planet.

It is what it is. It's how the award works.

[drobfan8]

Harden deserved the MVP. LeBron was the best player on the planet.

It is what it is. It's how the award works.

I agree Harden deserved it, plus he was ripped off that one year by Curry.

Seriously though, LeBron has been denied because he missed 6 games before, so it is a little surprising Harden got it missing 12.

Wins means something to me personally, so that would be the main reason LeBron didn't get it this season.

[tjforce]

I agree Harden deserved it, plus he was ripped off that one year by Curry.

Seriously though, LeBron has been denied because he missed 6 games before, so it is a little surprising Harden got it missing 12.

Wins means something to me personally, so that would be the main reason LeBron didn't get it this season.

That's what won me over for Harden.

It's a regular season award and they had the best regular season record, even better than the Warriors.

When you are comparing the 4th seed in the East with the 1st seed in the West, that just makes a big difference.

If LeBron could have led the way to a 1st or maybe a 2nd seed, I'd give the award to him.

[Cavaliercards]

Just curious where did the "Justise Winslow" comparison come from?

From the deepest depths of the internet.

[88horsepower]

LeBron Fatigue

[Wolves4Life]

Harden and Ben Simmons what a crappy award season. They were good but they weren't better than their competition.

[jj2]

Harden and Ben Simmons what a crappy award season. They were good but they weren't better than their competition.

Hottest of hot takes. Voting for both awards wasn't even close.

[Dnic]

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He got robbed take him out of Cleveland the Cavs don't even make the playoffs and probably go to a below .500 team, take Harden out and they still have a good team that's what makes a MVP in my eyes :eek:

[spurs50fan]

NBA essentially monetized an event that anyone could've called 4 months ago :rolleyes:

[DajuanWagner]

Congratulations to 2nd year player Ben Simmons for winning Rookie of the Year.......#trusttheprocess

[jcardstore]

I love reading all the Simmons haters crying #notarookie #keepcrying

He won it and you can't take that away. Keep crying for as long as you can because after this season nobody is even going to care whether he was a rookie or not

[jcardstore]

When Luka Doncic wins it I wonder if the Trae Young stans will be claiming that he's not a rookie either cause he played pro ball in Europe

[the27guy]

I love reading all the Simmons haters crying #notarookie #keepcrying

He won it and you can't take that away. Keep crying for as long as you can because after this season nobody is even going to care whether he was a rookie or not

Congrats to him. He had a great regular season.

Now, hopefully he can move past his playoff performance and work on the issues that were exposed. He has to if he wants to be great.

[jazz1232dc]

I'm more upset that Quin didn't win COY over Mitchell finishing 2nd in ROY.

[bmf]

how completely NOT funny is anthony anderson. god that was bad.

[bmf]

Congrats to him. He had a great regular season.

Now, hopefully he can move past his playoff performance and work on the issues that were exposed. He has to if he wants to be great.

lol you may be the only person worried about simmons' future.

[elee712]

He got robbed take him out of Cleveland the Cavs don't even make the playoffs and probably go to a below .500 team, take Harden out and they still have a good team that's what makes a MVP in my eyes :eek:

You think Houston would make the playoffs without Harden?

[moosetequila]

I love reading all the Simmons haters crying #notarookie #keepcrying

He won it and you can't take that away. Keep crying for as long as you can because after this season nobody is even going to care whether he was a rookie or not

:)!:)!:)!

:cry: @ DM Fan Boys Salty Tears

[Dnic]

You think Houston would make the playoffs without Harden?

I'm not sure honestly but Cavs without Lebron vs. Rockets without Harden I believe Rockets would still have a far better record then the Cavs

[tjforce]

Congrats to him. He had a great regular season.

Now, hopefully he can move past his playoff performance and work on the issues that were exposed. He has to if he wants to be great.

Agreed.

And if Mitchell too can look at how his post season ended and improve on the flaws is his game that were exposed, this could be a great player rivalry of who's best for years to come!

[the27guy]

lol you may be the only person worried about simmons' future.

Then I must have been the only person who watched him against the Celtics. TJ McConnell was the better player.

Again, I know how great he can be. But let’s not put our heads in the sand. He was terrible for nearly the entire series.

[tjforce]

Then I must have been the only person who watched him against the Celtics. TJ McConnell was the better player.

Again, I know how great he can be. But let’s not put our heads in the sand. He was terrible for nearly the entire series.

You're bias is showing through.

Disregarding his Game 2 dud, Simmons averaged 18/9 and 6 on 51% shooting in that series. Against one of the best defensive teams in basketball.

He had one bad game.

[the27guy]

You're bias is showing through.

Disregarding his Game 2 dud, Simmons averaged 18/9 and 6 on 51% shooting in that series. Against one of the best defensive teams in basketball.

He had one bad game.

I’ll admit it felt a lot worse than that.

[Bulls90s]

Horsesh^t Simmons won the roy award..his rookie season was lost b/c of injury.

[bdoody42]

He got robbed take him out of Cleveland the Cavs don't even make the playoffs and probably go to a below .500 team, take Harden out and they still have a good team that's what makes a MVP in my eyes :eek:

Youre basing your opinion on something that never happened. The MVP award goes based on what did happen.

[the27guy]

Gotta say, watching Rudy get the DPOY was pretty awesome. Super humble. Super grateful.

Exactly what I want to see out of a guy winning an award.

[ballhawkdawk]

lol you may be the only person worried about simmons' future.

I'm a 76ers fan and I'm worried. He had a spectacular rookie season, but he needs to develop an outside shot that defenses have to respect. He needs to have a pull up jumper that he can hit from inside the arc. Almost all of his jump shots were either fading, spinning, jumping laterally, etc. He'll be an All-Star caliber player regardless, but this guy is supposed to be a multi-MVP type talent. He needs to develop a killer instinct and play without fear. I do think that all these things will come in time, but to say that it's a given and that I'm not concerned would be total BS.

That said... Simmons had a better regular season than Mitchell. The debate about what is a rookie or isn't a rookie... really, guys? Been talking in circles since like January about the same damn thing.

[ballhawkdawk]

I’ll admit it felt a lot worse than that.

It did. Simmons had his moments vs. Boston, but his effect on the series just wasn't there. He managed to get his stats, but he's had less productive statistical games where his effect was far more impactful than some of the games vs. Boston. Boston nullified him for long, important stretches of games. And he had some major mental lapses in critical moments.

[Dnic]

Youre basing your opinion on something that never happened. The MVP award goes based on what did happen.

I'm basing it on what I know for a fact, if you owned a team who would you rather have on it Lebron or Harden? I know for a fact put Lebron on basically any team and he is a game changer

[drobfan8]

I'm a 76ers fan and I'm worried. He had a spectacular rookie season, but he needs to develop an outside shot that defenses have to respect. He needs to have a pull up jumper that he can hit from inside the arc. Almost all of his jump shots were either fading, spinning, jumping laterally, etc. He'll be an All-Star caliber player regardless, but this guy is supposed to be a multi-MVP type talent. He needs to develop a killer instinct and play without fear. I do think that all these things will come in time, but to say that it's a given and that I'm not concerned would be total BS.

That said... Simmons had a better regular season than Mitchell. The debate about what is a rookie or isn't a rookie... really, guys? Been talking in circles since like January about the same damn thing.

Nowhere has it ever been reported that Simmons is "supposed to be a multiple MVP talent"
That is a joke of a tag to put on a young guy.

All star, yes, those are the expectations, sure.

That aint right dude.

Doesn't KD have one MVP? After 10 or 11 seasons? So multiple MVPs are for the absolute greatest, and nobody is expecting that from the kid.

[theLUCKYshow]

His cards sell at MVP prices already, maybe even 2x MVP prices.. Clearly there are crazy high expectations on his kid.

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[WalterAZ31]

Hottest of hot takes. Voting for both awards wasn't even close.

consider the idiotic source

[jstasyk1121]

His cards sell at MVP prices already, maybe even 2x MVP prices.. Clearly there are crazy high expectations on his kid.

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yea but there is 5+ rookies every year that sell for what multiple MVPs sell for...that is just what it is...the new shiny kids sell for what basically would have to be Jordan or Lebron types of careers to justify it most of the time...

[drobfan8]

His cards sell at MVP prices already, maybe even 2x MVP prices.. Clearly there are crazy high expectations on his kid.

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Surely you're not that new to the Hobby.

There's literally plebs selling for more than HOFers EVERY season.

Any hyped player has sold for crazy amounts early on, not my thing at all personally.

[drobfan8]

yea but there is 5+ rookies every year that sell for what multiple MVPs sell for...that is just what it is...the new shiny kids sell for what basically would have to be Jordan or Lebron types of careers to justify it most of the time...

People love hype, it's crazy that you can grab a Jordan or a couple of LeBron Chrome RCs for the same price that a "possible" stars Prizm Refractor sells for. Talk about gambling, but hey, it's their money.

[tjforce]

His cards sell at MVP prices already, maybe even 2x MVP prices.. Clearly there are crazy high expectations on his kid.

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Right now Simmons is selling like a guy who's going to win an MVP and Championship.

Lebron is 33, Curry is 30, Durant will turn 30 before the season starts, Harden 29.


There's a gap beyond that of who will be the face of the league in 5-6 years and right now collectors seem to be betting on Simmons, Giannis, Kahwi and AD.


The payoff is that even at the prices these 4 sell at today, if any one of them takes that title and becomes the hobby's next Kobe or LeBron there is a ton of upside.

Of course, they can't all hit that ceiling, so place your bets wisely.

[Hegotgame15]

In my opinion I don't think Simmons is hard to fix, I have watched him live and I know his father and played against him in Australia, the head coach is also my old coach and he can teach him how to reset his shot, as he can actually shoot well himself...Brett Brown i'm talking about..

Simmons is far more talented than people realise and it has nothing to do with his stats or how complete he is... lacking good shooting form is what needs to be fixed. that's really all at this stage...i'd expect to see him fall back into bad shooting even after you fix it, so it would take a good few months to undo what's already there..

I wouldn't worry about his shooting too much, I wouldn't try and stress him out over it, i'd just start with simple ways to get a better shot...I've done this countless times, it works if the player is flued enough to except different body movement routines...Simmons is! i'd want to strip him down to see exactly which hand he should be shooting with first..the best way is to make him run at full pace and do a lay up...not a dunk...when you go full speed your footwork only works one way unless you're a 2 foot jumper which he isn't...so jumping off the left foot makes him a right hand shooter in MOST cases...not always...I'd expect that he had an issue at some stage in his life which made him need to use his left hand, but he's a righty!


So once we know which hand he should be using it only takes a week to get the flow, you have to start a foot away from the basket get the shooting hand lined up and shoot with one hand...that puts your form in the correct position, then you add the support hand and in a week you have better form than most NBA players that got really really good at shooting bad...then you move him out while keeping the same form until he's hitting midrange perfectly...shooting form should look the same from every where on the court...

The next step for him is to get his feet set the right way in the post, because he uses 2 hands his feet aren't always under him the right way for balance...

It all works off the foundation which is footwork...he has some bad habits that need addressing there too, but it might be a little harder to undo then the shooting...I know that sounds backwards!

Then he would become an unstoppable force...the foundation puts your body in balance and you can shoot anywhere at any time when you have good balance...MJ was a bad shooter when he came into the league, he fixed the balance and it fixed the shot!

On the positive side,
He already has some of the fastest moves I have seen, they are not quick it's fast..he covers ground so fast he is past defence before they are ready to actually get in his way...he can finish with both hands and can get to positions on the court with ease, all that is needed is to be able to finish it off with balanced shots...the best un used weapon in the NBA is 5-8 foot jumper pulling up mid drive, you have that you can't be guarded.


He's no LeBron and I wouldn't want him to try to be, i'd want him to get all the fundamentals of footwork and shooting done first then expand on that...I would hate to see him take the lazy way out with bad habits traveling all the time, like LeBron does...


As for his worth..i wouldn't buy any Simmons cards, I don't care about the next big thing...it means nothing to me..All the rookie cards are way over valued...hype makes me laugh!


just my opinion on Simmons and how I would go about fixing the holes in his game

[duron]

Thoroughly enjoyed Chris Paul and James Harden not being able to take back to back jokes.

What a bunch of tight-asses, hooooly lawd.