The trade deadline is getting closer....

[AnthonyCorona]

What do u want your team to do?? I would love for the Yankees to trade for Brandon Belt and get a nice 3-4 or 5 starter and give Sonny some time to get it together.

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[speedyjg13]

Angels need to give up Jo Adell for pitching

[AnthonyCorona]

Angels need to give up Jo Adell for pitchingThat should bring some talent

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[r0yals2012]

The Royals need to trade Moustakas, Butera, Duda, Hammel, Esky anyone who will take those guys even if it is a throw in guy with no value because we aren't going anywhere the next few years and I'll take throw away guys hoping maybe we get lucky and hit on someone. Doubt anyone will want 2 guys batting under .200 and a guy with like a 6 ERA.

[Jmort23]

Before I could type nearly the same quote about my Orioles team.
Jeff

The Royals need to trade Moustakas, Butera, Duda, Hammel, Esky anyone who will take those guys even if it is a throw in guy with no value because we aren't going anywhere the next few years and I'll take throw away guys hoping maybe we get lucky and hit on someone. Doubt anyone will want 2 guys batting under .200 and a guy with like a 6 ERA.

[Eckstein197]

I feel like the Twins will trade Lance Lynn and potentially Dozier unfortunately

Also I feel the Os are going to absolutely blow this Machado situation, not trade him and he will leave in free agency

[Stech36]

Cardinals need to trade for a superstar level player with control. Only way they can improve and their window is closing sort of. I think the only guy who fits that description is Jacob DeGrom. Dakota Hudson, Alex Reyes, Tyler O’neill, and some low level flyers for Degrom and Familia?

[Dbacksbaseball]

I'm hopeful the Phils do nothing with Medina, Sixto, Kilome.

Wait for Machado to fall in there lap or go after Whit Merrifield. They need a bat to stay in the race.

[Dbacksbaseball]

Cardinals need to trade for a superstar level player with control. Only way they can improve and their window is closing sort of. I think the only guy who fits that description is Jacob DeGrom. Dakota Hudson, Alex Reyes, Tyler O’neill, and some low level flyers for Degrom and Familia?

If thats all it took for a good closer and elite pitcher....every team would throw a package like that together.

[Stech36]

If thats all it took for a good closer and elite pitcher....every team would throw a package like that together.

I thought Dakota was a little more highly regarded. Yeah, Change it to Luke Weaver or Jack Flaherty. Alex Reyes, O’neill and Flaherty would be 3 top 50 prospects. Unless you have to get a top 10 prospect in return if you’re the Mets, idk how much better you’re going to find. And Familia is only a rental.

[Pearce77]

Braun for a #2 rotation starter type.

[AnthonyCorona]

Braun for a #2 rotation starter type.Ohhh I meant THIS year

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[Brewers3]

Ohhh I meant THIS year

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I'm a Brewers fan and I will second this post to a million.

[hxcmilkshake]

Andujar, Sheffield and Joe Girardi for Machado

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[rman112]

What do u want your team to do?? I would love for the Yankees to trade for Brandon Belt and get a nice 3-4 or 5 starter and ship Sonny off to the Yomiuri Giants ASAP.

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I agree.

[rman112]

Free agents that somebody should want:

Beltre
Adam Jones
Estrada (maybe?)
Britton
Machado
Happ
A. Cabrera
C. Gonzalez

[ThoseBackPages]

trade deGrom

[Tarheelsfan2012]

I thought Dakota was a little more highly regarded. Yeah, Change it to Luke Weaver or Jack Flaherty. Alex Reyes, O’neill and Flaherty would be 3 top 50 prospects. Unless you have to get a top 10 prospect in return if you’re the Mets, idk how much better you’re going to find. And Familia is only a rental.

Theres 0 chance the Mets would do that. Alex Reyes has had 2 consecutive seasons where he's been injured. He's talented but needs to prove he can stay healthy. It would seriously take a package of like Reyes, Flaherty, O'Neill, Carson Kelly, Machado and Delvin Perez.

[texmcpherson]

Cardinals need to trade for a superstar level player with control. Only way they can improve and their window is closing sort of. I think the only guy who fits that description is Jacob DeGrom. Dakota Hudson, Alex Reyes, Tyler O’neill, and some low level flyers for Degrom and Familia?

I don’t even think the Mets of all teams would even think about that. We have to remember Reyes value is way down and is now considered a mid-high risk guy. And DeGrom is a CY caliber pitcher. No way that would even come close.

[Athey49]

Twins need to not think they have a chance this season and trade like bandits before the deadline. Lynn, Duke, Escobar, Rodney, Dozier. I liked how they went for it at the beginning of the year without having to tear the farm apart but unfortunately it hasn't swung their way

[Stech36]

Theres 0 chance the Mets would do that. Alex Reyes has had 2 consecutive seasons where he's been injured. He's talented but needs to prove he can stay healthy. It would seriously take a package of like Reyes, Flaherty, O'Neill, Carson Kelly, Machado and Delvin Perez.

I don’t even think the Mets of all teams would even think about that. We have to remember Reyes value is way down and is now considered a mid-high risk guy. And DeGrom is a CY caliber pitcher. No way that would even come close.

It may not be enough, but I think it’s closer than y’all think. And I would honestly include Carson Kelly and Delvin Perez in the deal without hesitation. Kelly’s blocked, and I think Delvin has more name value than actual value, so might as well trade on that while they still can.

I guess it might be tough with the Cardinals not having a top 25 prospect anymore. But this is a massive amount of talent to give up and gives the Mets two potential future aces and starting catcher and outfielder with all star potential.

[rman112]

It may not be enough, but I think it’s closer than y’all think. And I would honestly include Carson Kelly and Delvin Perez in the deal without hesitation. Kelly’s blocked, and I think Delvin has more name value than actual value, so might as well trade on that while they still can.

Yeah, that'll put 'em over the top.

[Hollywood42]

If the deadline passes without the Twins trading Lance Lynn, they've failed. Won't get a whole lot in return, but there's no reason to hang onto him, especially with Romero and Gonsalves ready for some time in the bigs

I'd like to see them shop a few guys from the bullpen as well. Rodney for sure if they can move him, maybe Duke as well. Won't get much for those guys either, but no reason to keep

Dozier I could go either way with. We won't get much for him right now since he hasn't been playing well and will be a FA, but at the same time it sounds like the current FO has no interest in re-signing him, so who knows. I'd be fine with keeping him through the end of the year even if we don't re-sign him this offseason. Just would feel like a much better end to his time with the Twins than it would if he was traded

Escobar needs to be kept and re-signed. He's done so much for the team and brings so much to the table. I'll be upset if they move him

[13CardinalsFan]

It may not be enough, but I think it’s closer than y’all think. And I would honestly include Carson Kelly and Delvin Perez in the deal without hesitation. Kelly’s blocked, and I think Delvin has more name value than actual value, so might as well trade on that while they still can.

I guess it might be tough with the Cardinals not having a top 25 prospect anymore. But this is a massive amount of talent to give up and gives the Mets two potential future aces and starting catcher and outfielder with all star potential.

There is no way the Mets would do this. It wouldn't help the Cardinals anyway. They need lots of changes in personal and management.

[Stech36]

Yeah, that'll put 'em over the top.

Carson Kelly is yet another top 50 prospect. That’s 4 top 50 prospects, one with an ERA under 3.40 in 70 MLB innings, one that was a top 5 prospect before Tommy John and a non arm injury screwed him over for two years, one that has a 1.000 OPS in AAA, and one that has an .814 OPS in AAA as a catcher.

Barring a top 10 prospect being in the trade, what package would be better?

[rman112]

Carson Kelly is yet another top 50 prospect. That’s 4 top 50 prospects, one with an ERA under 3.40 in 70 MLB innings, one that was a top 5 prospect before Tommy John and a non arm injury screwed him over for two years, one that has a 1.000 OPS in AAA, and one that has an .814 OPS in AAA as a catcher.

Barring a top 10 prospect trade, what package would be better?

Carson Kelly has also done nothing in 3 major league stints. He has been a giant disappointment.

[dherm360]

Brewers need a catcher, a second basemen, a shortstop and two starters

[rman112]

Also, prospect rankings mean nothing once a guy hits the bigs.

Or maybe Giolito or Amed Rosario would bring back top major league talent..

[punkoholic]

For the Astros

1 legit bullpen arm
In order of preference
Blake Treinen
Zach Britton (if they feel he's 100 % heathy)
Brad Hand (but wouldn't over pay)

If Tucker isn't ready for the bigs, another OF.
Adam Jones or khris Davis???

Possibly another catcher
Realmuto or Ramos

*for them not to trade Corbin Martin

1 rumor I didn't understand was they were interested in Jose Abreu. Gurriel(1B)is doing better and Gattis(DH)is hitting better the last month or two. Unless you do something crazy like Gurriel to 3rd, Bregman to LF.

[rman112]

For the Astros

1 legit bullpen arm
In order of preference
Blake Treinen
Zach Britton (if they feel he's 100 % heathy)
Brad Hand (but wouldn't over pay)

If Tucker isn't ready for the bigs, another OF.
Adam Jones or khris Davis???

Possibly another catcher
Realmuto or Ramos

*for them not to trade Corbin Martin

I was reading the other day they're looking to extend Davis. Would be surprised if they made Treinen available. Didn't realize he's 30 already. Realmuto would be a great fit IMO.

[speedyjg13]

Nobody has brought up Bryce Harper... if the Nats are sure they wont resign him, they should trade him to get something in return instead of letting him leave in free agarncy and get a draft pick that may not pan out.

Same goes for Trout and the Angels in 2020.

[ThoseBackPages]

Carson Kelly is yet another top 50 prospect. That’s 4 top 50 prospects, one with an ERA under 3.40 in 70 MLB innings, one that was a top 5 prospect before Tommy John and a non arm injury screwed him over for two years, one that has a 1.000 OPS in AAA, and one that has an .814 OPS in AAA as a catcher.

Barring a top 10 prospect being in the trade, what package would be better?

Mets dont want arms. They need position studs that are under control for years and can play everyday in Flushing right now

[dherm360]

Nobody has brought up Bryce Harper... if the Nats are sure they wont resign him, they should trade him to get something in return instead of letting him leave in free agarncy and get a draft pick that may not pan out.

Same goes for Trout and the Angels in 2020.

I was just thinking the same thing

[Brewers3]

Brewers need a catcher, a second basemen, a shortstop and two starters

and are still the best team in the NL.

[ALBASKETBALL]

Angels need to give up Jo Adell for pitching

Adell would garner the Mets attention for DeGrom.

Would be shocked if LA traded Adell

[punkoholic]

I was reading the other day they're looking to extend Davis. Would be surprised if they made Treinen available. Didn't realize he's 30 already. Realmuto would be a great fit IMO.

I think 1 problem is the A's are in a wild card hunt so they might not sell. If they fall further back, they could end up selling. Now if Davis is willing to stay with the A's can't the A's tell him we're going to trade you to a contender for a chance of a World Series. We get assets and when free agency begins, we'll just sign you.

Now that I think about it. I would pass on Ramos. Stassi has been decent. I would give him a chance. Realmuto would be a clear upgrade and wouldn't be a rental so would still go after him.

Jon Morosi suggested Curtis Granderson would be a good fit for the Astros if Tucker struggles.

[SirTommyWinAlot]

Steve The Ripper is turning into a bonafide ace pickup for the red sox. I think all we need now is whit merrifield and i'll be happy.

[LCM1223]

First one to offer a bucket of practice balls gets Tommy Hunter

[base set]

Avila has a nice little stash of chips available in Detroit.

A #2-3 starter with a 3.65 ERA & 1.20 WHIP (rental)

A #3-4 starter just off the DL but a 13 year veteran with a 4.03 ERA & 1.33 WHIP (also rental)

A Catcher with a .770 OPS (dirt cheap rental)

A Shortstop with only a .691 OPS though much better #s if you forget about playing snowball back in April, considered to be a + glove (another rental; A level undetected head case prospects fine for this one)

And some Starting Pitcher that was the AL ROY last year who is ... not a rental

[corockies]

Rockies should trade Carlos Gonzalez for some young talent and let Noel Cuevas and Raimel Tapia start until David Dahl is back in August. They will probably be buyers at the deadline, but I really can't see any solid fit for them that doesn't have them giving up Brendan Rodgers and/or Peter Lambert. They are better off just going with what they have than lose those 2.

[AnthonyCorona]

Rockies should trade Carlos Gonzalez for some young talent and let Noel Cuevas and Raimel Tapia start until David Dahl is back in August. They will probably be buyers at the deadline, but I really can't see any solid fit for them that doesn't have them giving up Brendan Rodgers and/or Peter Lambert. They are better off just going with what they have than lose those 2.Lambert for Clint Frazier??

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[pgisback]

Hope Mariners can get an SP like Happ. Just don’t want to give up much. Love the outfield and once Cano gets back the infield is pretty solid. Not even sure what they’ll do with cano. Maybe replace Healy at first. I don’t think Dee is leaving 2nd. He’s too good.

[ryknow216]

I want Whit Merrifield!!! I love Joe Panik and all but I'd absolutely love to see Whit play for the Giants!!

[CoolG]

and are still the best team in the NL.

A bit of a stretch considering we're only at the half way point of the season. A solid first half no doubt.
I’d say a top 5 team for sure in the NL when all said and done.

[JackThree]

White Sox

They should sell & start buying. Sell guys like Shields, Soria, Avilan, Avisail & Luery Garcia, Davidson & even Welington Castillo in August (he could still help a team for the regular season). I don't see Jose Abreu moving, unless the team is blown away by an offer.

They could also be buyers at the same time. Anyone with at least three years of team control who's young and on the trading block should be looked at. They can use a 3B, SP and a bullpen arms. If the Mets, for instance, are going to trade Syndergaard or anyone else in baseball like that, the Sox should at least give them a call.

You figure the guys off limits include Eloy, Robert, Moncada, Madrigal, Collins, Cease, Kopech & Lopez. Everyone else is fair game. Hansen, Dunning and Rutherford are MLB top 100 players I would consider moving in the right deal, maybe for Thor.

As for the Machado rumor, I'd wait for the off season to sign him.

[Hollywood42]

Tough thing for the Mariners will be figuring out how to use Cano if it's looking like they can make the playoffs. Obviously Cano is going to be someone you'll want in the lineup down the stretch, but I wonder how heavily they'll use him since he won't be eligible for the playoffs. Obviously getting to the playoffs is the big first step, but you're going to want to have played a good amount with the guys you'll be able to use once you get there

Hope Mariners can get an SP like Happ. Just don’t want to give up much. Love the outfield and once Cano gets back the infield is pretty solid. Not even sure what they’ll do with cano. Maybe replace Healy at first. I don’t think Dee is leaving 2nd. He’s too good.

[Hollywood42]

To get anyone that is young, a great player, and has 3+ years of control, you're going to have to include at least one or two of the guys you listed as off limits. Hansen/Dunning/etc are fine as mid tier pieces, but there's no way in hell they'd be the headliners in a package for someone like Syndy or deGrom

They could also be buyers at the same time. Anyone with at least three years of team control who's young and on the trading block should be looked at. They can use a 3B, SP and a bullpen arms. If the Mets, for instance, are going to trade Syndergaard or anyone else in baseball like that, the Sox should at least give them a call.

You figure the guys off limits include Eloy, Robert, Moncada, Madrigal, Collins, Cease, Kopech & Lopez. Everyone else is fair game. Hansen, Dunning and Rutherford are MLB top 100 players I would consider moving in the right deal, maybe for Thor.

[shortstopguy12]

Adell would garner the Mets attention for DeGrom.

Would be shocked if LA traded Adell

I also would not be shocked to see Adell move....

[drstrader5]

I also would not be shocked to see Adell move....



Why would they move him? Makes zero sense.


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[speedyjg13]

Why would they move him? Makes zero sense.


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Angels need starting pitching and bullpen help. Adell would bring a great return. Trade Adell for proven talent and let go of Adell who may or not not pan out in MLB

[drstrader5]

Angels need starting pitching and bullpen help. Adell would bring a great return. Trade Adell for proven talent and let go of Adell who may or not not pan out in MLB



They aren’t in contention and a couple of arms won’t fix the fact that the guys in front of Trout can’t get on base.


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[speedyjg13]

They aren’t in contention and a couple of arms won’t fix the fact that the guys in front of Trout can’t get on base.


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Watch some Angel's games. It's not the offense who is losing the games, it's the bullpen.

[auctionjmm]

Watch some Angel's games. It's not the offense who is losing the games, it's the bullpen.

The Angels are 7th in runs and 10th in batting average in the AL. We could watch all the games we want and we'll still be seeing a middle of the road offense.

[EricTownsend88]

For the Indians needs are

1.) Bullpen help
2.) Outfield help
3.) More bullpen help

I'd love a reunion with Shin-Soo Choo. Having him join Lindor, Ramirez, Brantley and Edwin at the top of the lineup? My goodness. As far as the arms go I'd target one from San Diego (Yates, Hand, Stammen) or Cincinnati (Iglesias, Garret, Hughes, Hernandez)

[sammyjankis]

For the Indians needs are

1.) Bullpen help
2.) Outfield help
3.) More bullpen help

I'd love a reunion with Shin-Soo Choo. Having him join Lindor, Ramirez, Brantley and Edwin at the top of the lineup? My goodness. As far as the arms go I'd target one from San Diego (Yates, Hand, Stammen) or Cincinnati (Iglesias, Garret, Hughes, Hernandez)

Take him! I like him but the Rangers don't need him and his contract is ridiculous.

Rangers need to trade everyone not named Mazara for prospects.

[tkraft24]

Take him! I like him but the Rangers don't need him and his contract is ridiculous.

Rangers need to trade everyone not named Mazara for prospects.

Yeah, there is absolutely zero chance the Indians get Choo back at age 36 and under contract for 2 more years for a lot of money.

[Morty]

For the Indians needs are

1.) Bullpen help
2.) Outfield help
3.) More bullpen help

I'd love a reunion with Shin-Soo Choo. Having him join Lindor, Ramirez, Brantley and Edwin at the top of the lineup? My goodness. As far as the arms go I'd target one from San Diego (Yates, Hand, Stammen) or Cincinnati (Iglesias, Garret, Hughes, Hernandez)

The only way any team will be taking on Choo's albatross of a contract is if the Rangers eat most of the $20m/ year.

He is having a good year, but he's a 36 year old 1st time All Star who has struggled with injuries. I don't expect much out of the remaining two years on his contract.

[metsandweezer]

If Machado goes to the Yankees or Dodgers, his cards are going to explode, right?

[marl1220]

I don't know how much the AL East teams like trading with each other but I'd like to see the deal the Yanks would offer for Snell.

[Hollywood42]

Why would the Rays move Snell? Pitching a borderline Cy Young level and has 4 years of team control left. He should be absolutely untouchable for a team like the Rays unless they get something completely ridiculous offered

I don't know how much the AL East teams like trading with each other but I'd like to see the deal the Yanks would offer for Snell.

[Links242]

IMO it will be a huge mistake if Mets ends up not trading DeGrom before end of the deadline.

Trade value for DeGrom is at an all time high now and Mets needs to replenish that farm system in a bad way.
But knowing the Wilpons they will somehow sabotage everything.

[Links242]

Another note. I will be very surprised if Clint Frazier is still in pine stripe after the deadline.
He will certainly be used as a trade chip for SP.

[GC1980]

Another note. I will be very surprised if Clint Frazier is still in pine stripe after the deadline.
He will certainly be used as a trade chip for SP.

They could and should be the same note. A Yankee/Mets trade makes so much sense for both teams.

[marl1220]

They could and should be the same note. A Yankee/Mets trade makes so much sense for both teams.

Not if the deal involves Andujar.

[jswest18]

Why would the Rays move Snell? Pitching a borderline Cy Young level and has 4 years of team control left. He should be absolutely untouchable for a team like the Rays unless they get something completely ridiculous offered

I saw a report last night from Gammons that quoted an NL exec who stated any rumors that Snell is available are complete garbage. They offered for him and put together a huge package that was declined. Take that for what it's worth but I'd say the Rays have zero interest in trading him as well.

[CharlieHustle]

Madison Bumgarner or Jacob deGrom to the Yankees. Personally, I think the Yankees would favor Bumgarner, who has a whole year left.
Each package would have a similar foundation and would involve Sheffield and Frazier plus more.

I'm thinking the Giants trade:
Bumgarner or Cueto (they can rebuild the entire team for Bumgarner)
McCutchen (this was obvious when they got him, could see him going to the Astros)
Panik (possibly involved in the Bumgarner/Cueto deal)
Pence (if anyone wants him)

[AnthonyCorona]

Madison Bumgarner or Jacob deGrom to the Yankees. Personally, I think the Yankees would favor Bumgarner, who has a whole year left.
Each package would have a similar foundation and would involve Sheffield and Frazier plus more.

I'm thinking the Giants trade:
Bumgarner or Cueto (they can rebuild the entire team for Bumgarner)
McCutchen (this was obvious when they got him, could see him going to the Astros)
Panik (possibly involved in the Bumgarner/Cueto deal)
Pence (if anyone wants him)It makes sense but I think the Giants view themselves as contenders.

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[drumrun]

Madison Bumgarner or Jacob deGrom to the Yankees. Personally, I think the Yankees would favor Bumgarner, who has a whole year left.
Each package would have a similar foundation and would involve Sheffield and Frazier plus more.



I would love if the Yankees picked up either. I would like to think, Sheffield, Andujar, Torres are not trade able. But I fear you might be right.

[prospects]

If the deadline passes without the Twins trading Lance Lynn, they've failed. Won't get a whole lot in return, but there's no reason to hang onto him, especially with Romero and Gonsalves ready for some time in the bigs

I'd like to see them shop a few guys from the bullpen as well. Rodney for sure if they can move him, maybe Duke as well. Won't get much for those guys either, but no reason to keep

Dozier I could go either way with. We won't get much for him right now since he hasn't been playing well and will be a FA, but at the same time it sounds like the current FO has no interest in re-signing him, so who knows. I'd be fine with keeping him through the end of the year even if we don't re-sign him this offseason. Just would feel like a much better end to his time with the Twins than it would if he was traded

Escobar needs to be kept and re-signed. He's done so much for the team and brings so much to the table. I'll be upset if they move him

it is hillarious that you think there is a team on this earth that wants Lynn and his 5 plus ERA. you are not getting rid of him.

[prospects]

If you are the angels, yankees, brewers, white sox, cubs, dodgers, congrats, you have enough to trade for degrom.

be ready to empty the farm. you want the best, you trade the best

[hxcmilkshake]

Not if the deal involves Andujar.Ill DRIVE Andujar and a few more to Queens for deGrom

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[prospects]

I would love if the Yankees picked up either. I would like to think, Sheffield, Andujar, Torres are not trade able. But I fear you might be right.

greedy greedy greedy

[prospects]

Ill DRIVE Andujar and a few more to Queens for deGrom

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finally some realism!

Mets need to trade degrom this month otherwise its the biggest mistake ever.

look at harvey and familia. could have gotten hauls for them years ago. instead they kept them, watched the decline, and got nothing in return.

[jswest18]

If you are the angels, yankees, brewers, white sox, cubs, dodgers, congrats, you have enough to trade for degrom.

be ready to empty the farm. you want the best, you trade the best

Are these the only teams you deem as being able to put a package together that could get DeGrom or just teams that have been linked to him that could put one together?

[Athey49]

it is hillarious that you think there is a team on this earth that wants Lynn and his 5 plus ERA. you are not getting rid of him.

3.49 ERA in his last 9 starts, it's hilarious that you believe no team wants him

[Hollywood42]

Quoted, we'll return to this after the Twins trade him :)! Won't get much, but they'll probably find someone willing to buy him if we aren't playing better within a few weeks

it is hillarious that you think there is a team on this earth that wants Lynn and his 5 plus ERA. you are not getting rid of him.

[prospects]

Are these the only teams you deem as being able to put a package together that could get DeGrom or just teams that have been linked to him that could put one together?

add the astros, reds, twins, padres, blue jays to the list of teams that have enough

[KingInTheNorth]

it is hillarious that you think there is a team on this earth that wants Lynn and his 5 plus ERA. you are not getting rid of him.

:doh::doh::doh:

There would be plenty of interest in Lynn if the Twins eat some money.

[lambeauleap87]

The players you want will cost a lot more than what you anticipate they'll give up.

The players you want to trade will not bring back the value you're hoping for.
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Indians need an outfielder and bullpen help. With Miller/Allen being FA at the end of the year, I'd really like the Indians to go get a guy like Iglesias or Hand to fortify the 'pen for 2018 and beyond. Especially if they can pay up to add a guy like Schebler. Of course, either of those guys are going to take a package of McKenzie or Mejia + Nolan Jones(?)ish. Gonna be expensive, but I don't want them to waste the prime of Lindor/Ramirez.

I'm hopeful they can pull of a couple small trades as well, similar to adding Jay Bruce and Joe Smith last year.

[CharlieHustle]

It makes sense but I think the Giants view themselves as contenders.

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This is the only reason why I say Bumgarner OR Cueto. If the Giants aren't blown away by the Yankees proposal, then they'll just trade Cueto instead to another team and the Yankees will go get deGrom.

The Giants already know they aren't resigning Bumgarner at what will be an astronomical contract (using Kershaw's contract as a base). I'd anticipate 7 years at 35+ million per year. Bumgarner is out of SF, no matter what. The only real question is...is it this trade deadline or next year's trade deadline? If the Yankees give up 3 prospects, then Madison is in pinstripes 3 weeks from today.

Contenders or not, Pence and McCutchen are out (one of them goes to the Astros) and Panik will likely be thrown in on a Cueto/Bum deal, only because I think the Giants are done with Panik and will try to salvage ANY value they can from him, before his back injuries start really piling up.


My original thought was that the deal would be Frazier/Torres/Sheffield for Bumgarner / Panik, only because at one time, I know the Yankees were high on Panik. I dont believe that's still the case, though, with all his back related injuries.

[purejd86p]

This is the only reason why I say Bumgarner OR Cueto. If the Giants aren't blown away by the Yankees proposal, then they'll just trade Cueto instead to another team and the Yankees will go get deGrom.

The Giants already know they aren't resigning Bumgarner at what will be an astronomical contract (using Kershaw's contract as a base). I'd anticipate 7 years at 35+ million per year. Bumgarner is out of SF, no matter what. The only real question is...is it this trade deadline or next year's trade deadline? If the Yankees give up 3 prospects, then Madison is in pinstripes 3 weeks from today.

Contenders or not, Pence and McCutchen are out (one of them goes to the Astros) and Panik will likely be thrown in on a Cueto/Bum deal, only because I think the Giants are done with Panik and will try to salvage ANY value they can from him, before his back injuries start really piling up.


My original thought was that the deal would be Frazier/Torres/Sheffield for Bumgarner / Panik, only because at one time, I know the Yankees were high on Panik. I dont believe that's still the case, though, with all his back related injuries.

I still believe Madbum will be a Giant for his whole career. Posey as well!

[AnthonyCorona]

This is the only reason why I say Bumgarner OR Cueto. If the Giants aren't blown away by the Yankees proposal, then they'll just trade Cueto instead to another team and the Yankees will go get deGrom.

The Giants already know they aren't resigning Bumgarner at what will be an astronomical contract (using Kershaw's contract as a base). I'd anticipate 7 years at 35+ million per year. Bumgarner is out of SF, no matter what. The only real question is...is it this trade deadline or next year's trade deadline? If the Yankees give up 3 prospects, then Madison is in pinstripes 3 weeks from today.

Contenders or not, Pence and McCutchen are out (one of them goes to the Astros) and Panik will likely be thrown in on a Cueto/Bum deal, only because I think the Giants are done with Panik and will try to salvage ANY value they can from him, before his back injuries start really piling up.


My original thought was that the deal would be Frazier/Torres/Sheffield for Bumgarner / Panik, only because at one time, I know the Yankees were high on Panik. I dont believe that's still the case, though, with all his back related injuries.I hope what u say is correct (except losing Gleyber) but I'm in Giants' country and can't see anyway they move Bum. Mandela
Management continues to make it clear that attendance (money) is more important than anything. That's why the got Cutch and Longo instead of starting their much needed rebuild. Many fans still reference 3 in 5 years when you try to question any move or lack of moves the Giants make. I understand that 10 12 and 14 were so much fun but eventually I think that argument is ridiculous.

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[rman112]

Who's taking Cueto's contract?

[AnthonyCorona]

Who's taking Cueto's contract?A crazy team

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[CharlieHustle]

I still believe Madbum will be a Giant for his whole career. Posey as well!

Posey for sure, that's a no-doubter.
I dont think SF is confident enough in Bum's health to sign him for 7+ years.

[rman112]

A crazy team

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Cueto and $50 mil for Sonny Gray.

[JackThree]

If you are the angels, yankees, brewers, white sox, cubs, dodgers, congrats, you have enough to trade for degrom.

be ready to empty the farm. you want the best, you trade the best

Cubs don't have that good of a farm system anymore. I really doubt they would trade off of their major league roster.

[AnthonyCorona]

Cueto and $50 mil for Sonny Gray.I like it!!!

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[Dbacksbaseball]

add the astros, reds, twins, padres, blue jays to the list of teams that have enough

And Philadelphia. But they won't trade him in the division and pitching is not a need....at the moment.

[prospects]

And Philadelphia. But they won't trade him in the division and pitching is not a need....at the moment.

there is nothing the phillies can offer the mets that is enticing enough at the prospect level

[rman112]

Indians seriously need bullpen help. I think they blew out Allen and Miller during their WS run.

[rman112]

Britton's either fully back, or very close to being there. He should fetch a big haul.

[rman112]

So after tonight's game, a multiple choice question:

Zach Britton will be a ..?

A. Indian
B. Yankee
C. Astro

?

[hxcmilkshake]

So after tonight's game, a multiple choice question:

Zach Britton will be a ..?

A. Indian
B. Yankee
C. Astro

?Indian. Cuz Lindor cant pitch.

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[rman112]

Machado is adamant that he wants to play short. His defensive numbers suck.

[Links242]

Rumors are Yankees made a strong offer for Machado and are to be rea players in the sweepstakes. Will be an interesting deadline for sure.

[DSizzle31]

There was a lot of bluster coming from Brewers fans in the MILB thread saying that they don’t NEED DeGrom and that the Mets need a player like Hiura more than the Brewers need an ace.

DeGrom just put up his 6th shutout inning against the first place Phillies. At the same time, Freddy Peralta walked the opposing pitcher to force in the 3rd run for the Marlins and is out of the game in the 4th.

Just interesting.

[prospects]

There was a lot of bluster coming from Brewers fans in the MILB thread saying that they don’t NEED DeGrom and that the Mets need a player like Hiura more than the Brewers need an ace.

DeGrom just put up his 6th shutout inning against the first place Phillies. At the same time, Freddy Peralta walked the opposing pitcher to force in the 3rd run for the Marlins and is out of the game in the 4th.

Just interesting.

lol.

That is why I will continue to post about degrom. He still does not get the respect he deserves. Career 2.80 ERA.

I do not know why any team that needs an ace would not empty the system for a guy like this with 2.5 cost controlled years left.

[metsandweezer]

If Machado goes to the Yankees or Dodgers, his cards are going to explode, right?

Hmmmmmm

[Links242]

lol.

That is why I will continue to post about degrom. He still does not get the respect he deserves. Career 2.80 ERA.

I do not know why any team that needs an ace would not empty the system for a guy like this with 2.5 cost controlled years left.

I would love to have Degrom as a Yankees fan. But I would not trade Torres andujar or Sheffield for him.

[bwalter1]

I would love to have Degrom as a Yankees fan. But I would not trade Torres andujar or Sheffield for him.

I agree on the do not trade players. Sheffield can be the Yankees LHP to replace CC when his arm falls off.

[lambeauleap87]

I hope the Yankees trade Justus so that I can root for him again.

[prospects]

I would love to have Degrom as a Yankees fan. But I would not trade Torres andujar or Sheffield for him.

that is just unbelievable to me.

[jeterfan95]

He's only signed through this season. It would be really hard to justify spending what the Mets want for him, but I would love to have him on the Yankees. I think they need serious help with their pitching, and this would be a step in the right direction. I would be comfortable including Andujar in some sort of deal. I'm not as sold on him as I am with Torres.

[hxcmilkshake]

Machado is adamant that he wants to play short. His defensive numbers suck.For 30 mill a year he will love third.

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[prospects]

He's only signed through this season. It would be really hard to justify spending what the Mets want for him, but I would love to have him on the Yankees. I think they need serious help with their pitching, and this would be a step in the right direction. I would be comfortable including Andujar in some sort of deal. I'm not as sold on him as I am with Torres.

degrom has 2 more cost controlled years after this season...

[drumrun]

I would love to have Degrom as a Yankees fan. But I would not trade Torres andujar or Sheffield for him.

1,000,000 X this!!!!

[DSizzle31]

I would love to have Degrom as a Yankees fan. But I would not trade Torres andujar or Sheffield for him.

1,000,000 X this!!!!

There is some major delusion going on in this thread. You’d love to have DeGrom but wouldn’t give up any of those 3 names? Well then, you won’t get DeGrom. What was it, 2 years ago that the Yanks acquired Torres for a rental Aroldis Chapman? They also got Clint Frazier AND Sheffield for Andrew Miller. Now they’re too valuable to include for 2+ full seasons of an ace starter? You can’t have it both ways. I get not wanting to trade Torres because he looks like a star, but Sheffield? Who is he? A top 40 prospect that is a 5’10” starter? If guys like that are too valuable to trade, you’ll be lucky to get J.A. Happ, let alone DeGrom.

If Cashman’s attitude is the same as yours, you won’t be getting DeGrom. You’ll go into the playoffs with Luis Severino and a bunch of trash. Congrats to Houston on another AL pennant. When they’re starting Gerrit Cole and Charlie Morton, you’ll counter with Tanaka and CC. Good luck.

[SethMurphy]

I'm ready to move Sheffield, but only if it's for either Manny or DeGrom. It needs to be a bonafide star, you don't trade that potential for someone like Britton or another reliever.


I'm ok with trading Andujar (although I don't want to) if we have already acquired Machado, since he won't have anywhere to play. Although he could platoon at 1B with Bird possibly.

Frazier is the interesting piece, because I think his value among other teams is kind of unknown, but he is a major league ready OF who can step in and play day one for a number of teams.

[AnthonyCorona]

Yankees need a true ace...get this man back!!!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180712/c3cc9743e9227db0127234bbc3506a3b.jpg

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[cnewby]

Yankees need a true ace...get this man back!!!

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You mean other than the CY Young frontrunner?

[Links242]

There is some major delusion going on in this thread. You’d love to have DeGrom but wouldn’t give up any of those 3 names? Well then, you won’t get DeGrom. What was it, 2 years ago that the Yanks acquired Torres for a rental Aroldis Chapman? They also got Clint Frazier AND Sheffield for Andrew Miller. Now they’re too valuable to include for 2+ full seasons of an ace starter? You can’t have it both ways. I get not wanting to trade Torres because he looks like a star, but Sheffield? Who is he? A top 40 prospect that is a 5’10” starter? If guys like that are too valuable to trade, you’ll be lucky to get J.A. Happ, let alone DeGrom.

If Cashman’s attitude is the same as yours, you won’t be getting DeGrom. You’ll go into the playoffs with Luis Severino and a bunch of trash. Congrats to Houston on another AL pennant. When they’re starting Gerrit Cole and Charlie Morton, you’ll counter with Tanaka and CC. Good luck.


Delusion how? All I'm saying is I would not give up those 3 I mentioned. Do I expect the Mets to trade DeGrom to the Yankees? Absolutely not.
But if the Yankees even offer the following (Flores, Frazier, Adams, Abreu) it is something Mets should think about with that depleted farm system.

[cubfanbudman79]

Saw rumors of deGrom and the Cubs possibly, but it would take major league talent (Russell, Happ and others) and I highly doubt it's anything more than talk. What I think the Cubs do is try to go after Eovaldi or JA Happ since Yu is a question mark, and Chatwood sucks.

They showcased Bote, and Caratini and have a pitcher like Thomas Hatch in the minors they can add to a deal.

[EricTownsend88]

Thinking up a 3 way trade here...how's this look on the surface?

Yankees receive: SP Jacob DeGrom
Mets receive: C Francisco Mejia, RHP Dillon Tate, IF/OF Yandy Diaz
Indians receive: OF Clint Frazier, RP Chad Green

[tkraft24]

Thinking up a 3 way trade here...how's this look on the surface?

Yankees receive: SP Jacob DeGrom
Mets receive: C Francisco Mejia, RHP Dillon Tate, IF/OF Yandy Diaz
Indians receive: OF Clint Frazier, RP Chad Green

Indians-Yankees will not be helping each other so I’ll just leave it at that.

[SethMurphy]

Thinking up a 3 way trade here...how's this look on the surface?

Yankees receive: SP Jacob DeGrom
Mets receive: C Francisco Mejia, RHP Dillon Tate, IF/OF Yandy Diaz
Indians receive: OF Clint Frazier, RP Chad Green

The major issue here is the Yankees will never part with Chad Green in this scenario. He is one of the most important parts of that bullpen, as someone who can pitch multiple innings when needed. Betances is down to a 1-inning guy now, so Green is that two inning swing guy.

It's an interesting concept though, Cleveland could use a major league ready OFer for sure. Maybe Tommy Kahnle or Adam Warren to Cleveland instead??? lol

[no10pin]

Indians-Yankees will not be helping each other so I’ll just leave it at that.

Yeah, I don't see the Indians having an interest in helping the Yankees land DeGrom.

[marl1220]

There is some major delusion going on in this thread. You’d love to have DeGrom but wouldn’t give up any of those 3 names? Well then, you won’t get DeGrom. What was it, 2 years ago that the Yanks acquired Torres for a rental Aroldis Chapman? They also got Clint Frazier AND Sheffield for Andrew Miller. Now they’re too valuable to include for 2+ full seasons of an ace starter? You can’t have it both ways. I get not wanting to trade Torres because he looks like a star, but Sheffield? Who is he? A top 40 prospect that is a 5’10” starter? If guys like that are too valuable to trade, you’ll be lucky to get J.A. Happ, let alone DeGrom.

If Cashman’s attitude is the same as yours, you won’t be getting DeGrom. You’ll go into the playoffs with Luis Severino and a bunch of trash. Congrats to Houston on another AL pennant. When they’re starting Gerrit Cole and Charlie Morton, you’ll counter with Tanaka and CC. Good luck.

LOL! Bunch of trash! :rolleyes:

[persona]

Yanks are going to end up with Samardzija.

[Hollywood42]

Is anyone else just not super solid on Clint Frazier? I keep hearing his name included in trade talks, but he just doesn't seem like that valuable of a piece for me. I'm not saying he sucks, but he doesn't seem like he has a super high ceiling. He's a career .275 hitter in the minors (though he is hitting .312 in AAA this year) with only average-ish power. Don't want to judge him too harshly on his time in the majors since there's been very little, but he hasn't been overly exciting in his MLB stints so far. He just looks to be much closer to an average outfielder than a higher end talent, IMO. Not saying that isn't helpful to a lot of teams, but I don't know if I'd value him as highly as it seems many people are

[Brewers3]

Is anyone else just not super solid on Clint Frazier? I keep hearing his name included in trade talks, but he just doesn't seem like that valuable of a piece for me. I'm not saying he sucks, but he doesn't seem like he has a super high ceiling. He's a career .275 hitter in the minors (though he is hitting .312 in AAA this year) with only average-ish power. Don't want to judge him too harshly on his time in the majors since there's been very little, but he hasn't been overly exciting in his MLB stints so far. He just looks to be much closer to an average outfielder than a higher end talent, IMO. Not saying that isn't helpful to a lot of teams, but I don't know if I'd value him as highly as it seems many people are

You pulled the words out of my mouth and hit the nail on the head. I've always felt the same way.

[AnthonyCorona]

Yanks are going to end up with Samardzija.Bob nightengale reports are 100% useless

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[marl1220]

Yanks are going to end up with Samardzija.

This would be the beginning of the end for the Yankees.:rolleyes:

[hxcmilkshake]

The major issue here is the Yankees will never part with Chad Green in this scenario. He is one of the most important parts of that bullpen, as someone who can pitch multiple innings when needed. Betances is down to a 1-inning guy now, so Green is that two inning swing guy.

It's an interesting concept though, Cleveland could use a major league ready OFer for sure. Maybe Tommy Kahnle or Adam Warren to Cleveland instead??? lolOmg i totally disagree if thats all it takes to get deGrom you do that in a heartbeat and hope the Mets front office doesn't come to their senses.

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[drumrun]

There is some major delusion going on in this thread. You’d love to have DeGrom but wouldn’t give up any of those 3 names? Well then, you won’t get DeGrom. What was it, 2 years ago that the Yanks acquired Torres for a rental Aroldis Chapman? They also got Clint Frazier AND Sheffield for Andrew Miller. Now they’re too valuable to include for 2+ full seasons of an ace starter? You can’t have it both ways. I get not wanting to trade Torres because he looks like a star, but Sheffield? Who is he? A top 40 prospect that is a 5’10” starter? If guys like that are too valuable to trade, you’ll be lucky to get J.A. Happ, let alone DeGrom.

If Cashman’s attitude is the same as yours, you won’t be getting DeGrom. You’ll go into the playoffs with Luis Severino and a bunch of trash. Congrats to Houston on another AL pennant. When they’re starting Gerrit Cole and Charlie Morton, you’ll counter with Tanaka and CC. Good luck.


I dont think the Yankees are desperate. They have a 5-8 window here where they will be challenging for AL Championship and WS. I dont think they give up the farm.

[prospects]

Delusion how? All I'm saying is I would not give up those 3 I mentioned. Do I expect the Mets to trade DeGrom to the Yankees? Absolutely not.
But if the Yankees even offer the following (Flores, Frazier, Adams, Abreu) it is something Mets should think about with that depleted farm system.

that is a hideous offer.

[prospects]

Thinking up a 3 way trade here...how's this look on the surface?

Yankees receive: SP Jacob DeGrom
Mets receive: C Francisco Mejia, RHP Dillon Tate, IF/OF Yandy Diaz
Indians receive: OF Clint Frazier, RP Chad Green

looks pretty awful for the mets

[prospects]

The major issue here is the Yankees will never part with Chad Green in this scenario. He is one of the most important parts of that bullpen, as someone who can pitch multiple innings when needed. Betances is down to a 1-inning guy now, so Green is that two inning swing guy.

It's an interesting concept though, Cleveland could use a major league ready OFer for sure. Maybe Tommy Kahnle or Adam Warren to Cleveland instead??? lol

now its too much to give up dillon tate and chad green for degrom.

wow, these yankee fans are something. nobody wants tate.

you will be sending andujar, florial, sheffield, frazier, and abreu for degrom and adrubal's contract which you will be paying.

[prospects]

and you will also take on jay bruces contract.

[Wade Mulroy]

There isn't a soul on the Cardinals 40-man roster that I would regret losing at this point. I never thought I would feel so apathetic towards my hometown team. I realize I've been spoiled the last 20ish years with fantastic baseball here, but this organization has completely lost any type of edge, toughness, advantage, etc.

[Hollywood42]

I honestly don't think deGrom gets traded. He'd be by far the most expensive trade asset to be moved in how long? Ever? He's a top 5 pitcher in the game at minimum and has several YEARS of control left. The Mets are right to ask the world for him. But because he's going to be so expensive, I'd be surprised to see another team pay up for him. Yeah every team in the game would benefit from adding him to their rotation, but you're going to have to give up a crapton of talent. I just don't see it happening. Maybe in another year or two when the asking price goes down due to less control

[rman112]

Astros adding at least 1 reliever in 3.. 2..

[Tradegeek]

Machado is adamant that he wants to play short. His defensive numbers suck.



Which is why I don’t think the Dodgers will pull off a trade. He would be a rental for them. And the Os are not asking rental packages in return. There is no way the Dodgers will sign him guaranteeing him SS with Seager being back next year.


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[hxcmilkshake]

I honestly don't think deGrom gets traded. He'd be by far the most expensive trade asset to be moved in how long? Ever? He's a top 5 pitcher in the game at minimum and has several YEARS of control left. The Mets are right to ask the world for him. But because he's going to be so expensive, I'd be surprised to see another team pay up for him. Yeah every team in the game would benefit from adding him to their rotation, but you're going to have to give up a crapton of talent. I just don't see it happening. Maybe in another year or two when the asking price goes down due to less controlAgree.

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[tkraft24]

What I really want is for the Indians to go after Adam Jones with Machado. I’m thinking TMack, Chang, G.Allen, and Kipnis as the base return. Probably have to add a lesser prospect or cash (unlikely) to unload that extra year of Kipnis.

After that, I’ll be confident enough in the offense for the Tribe to go all in and use Mejia to land the best reliever available: Raisel Iglesias.

[EricTownsend88]

What I really want is for the Indians to go after Adam Jones with Machado. I’m thinking TMack, Chang, G.Allen, and Kipnis as the base return. Probably have to add a lesser prospect or cash (unlikely) to unload that extra year of Kipnis.

After that, I’ll be confident enough in the offense for the Tribe to go all in and use Mejia to land the best reliever available: Raisel Iglesias.

Man McKenzie should be untouchable. Why do we need Machado? Both Ramirez and Lindor are better players by a large margin and Jason Kipnis has held his own the past few months after that horrid start. Kipnis is no longer a big problem. The problem is the 5.43 bullpen ERA and the two black holes in the outfield. We need at least 2 relievers and an outfielder minimum. I don't think we need to concern ourselves with Machado.

[tkraft24]

Man McKenzie should be untouchable. Why do we need Machado? Both Ramirez and Lindor are better players by a large margin and Jason Kipnis has held his own the past few months after that horrid start. Kipnis is no longer a big problem. The problem is the 5.43 bullpen ERA and the two black holes in the outfield. We need at least 2 relievers and an outfielder minimum. I don't think we need to concern ourselves with Machado.

Meh, this team is still streaky as hell and was last year too. Even with Lindor and Jose, the offense has major cold spells at times. If it happens at the wrong time, your out of the playoffs. Adding another elite bat will decrease the risk of having off nights (or week) at the plate.

Kipnis is more about offsetting salaries, no way the FO takes on Jones and Machado salaries without some sort of offset. Jones would fortify the outfield with an everyday veteran and then Tito can platoon in right.

Machado >>>>>>>>>>>> Kipnis
Jones >>> Allen

Bullpen, like I said, stack the offense and then go all in on the best reliever. I want the parade this year, no question about it.

[lambeauleap87]

I want absolutely nothing to do with Adam Jones (a statue in CF and barely league average offensively), and I really don't see any way or fit the Indians land Machado (who has openly stated he'll refuse to play third base).

They need to add an outfielder and bullpen arm (or several), I'd love to see a package deal for a pair like Iglesias/Schebler, Hand/Jankowski, or Steckenrider/Barraclough/Dietrich.

[tkraft24]

I want absolutely nothing to do with Adam Jones (a statue in CF and barely league average offensively), and I really don't see any way or fit the Indians land Machado (who has openly stated he'll refuse to play third base).

They need to add an outfielder and bullpen arm (or several), I'd love to see a package deal for a pair like Iglesias/Schebler, Hand/Jankowski, or Steckenrider/Barraclough/Dietrich.

Just have to hope Machado goes to the NL then because if he ends up a Yankee then I don’t like our chances. I can’t believe he would refuse to play third for any legit WS contender during a contract year. That would certainly cost him money next year due to concerns about his character (which has always been questioned).

With AJ, his career at the dish speaks for itself so I’m not going to hold one bad start to the year with an imploding team against him. A change of scenery could get him back to normal or certainly better than Greg Allen. Plus, Zimmer should eventually be around as a 4th OF type (defensive replacement/pinch runner) as needed.

There’s definitely some good, cheaper options but if we just get one modular OF while another contender adds one of the best hitters then it’s just another wasted year.

[lambeauleap87]

Just have to hope Machado goes to the NL then because if he ends up a Yankee then I don’t like our chances. I can’t believe he would refuse to play third for any legit WS contender during a contract year. That would certainly cost him money next year due to concerns about his character (which has always been questioned).

With AJ, his career at the dish speaks for itself so I’m not going to hold one bad start to the year with an imploding team against him. A change of scenery could get him back to normal or certainly better than Greg Allen. Plus, Zimmer should eventually be around as a 4th OF type (defensive replacement/pinch runner) as needed.

There’s definitely some good, cheaper options but if we just get one modular OF while another contender adds one of the best hitters then it’s just another wasted year.

I see both sides of the Machado argument, I just don't think the cost outweighs the benefit (especially with the anomaly of it being that Kipnis has matched and effectively outperformed Machado since the middle of May), unless Zach Britton comes along with him. He doesn't fill a need unless you think Kipnis can be an effective outfielder (yikes) at the cost of drastically shortening your window.

Since 2016, Adam Jones has had a wRC+ floating around 100 (league average) while absolutely having fallen off a cliff defensively (-40 DRS in that time frame). It's not a slow start or a bad year, he's just not particularly good anymore.

Ultimately, my thoughts on the Indians are that, if they leverage their assets appropriately, that window can run through at least 2020 or 2021. Adding a guy like Hand/Iglesias extends that window after Miller/Allen are gone (although they suddenly look affordable). This year, they could call up the entire AAA roster for a month and still win the division going away, so any rental they add is going to have an impact of MAYBE ~thirty at bats or ~ten innings in the postseason, so a rental doesn't provide the same value he would to a team like the Yankees, trying to avoid the WC game. Sure up the bullpen, add an outfielder or two, and let variance do it's thing in the playoffs.

[Neal]

Phillies are in Baltimore for a set …. Machado leaves with the Philadelphia Phillies

[tkraft24]

I’m totally on board with Iglesias, I think he fits the mold of what the Indians need perfectly. But at the same time, I want nothing to do with trading Mejia unless they get an impact outfielder to contend this year.

In 2016 they tried to go all in but Lucroy messed that up for us. As a result, the team picked up the reliever it needed but not the impact bat. We need both to finish it off. After the snooze fest that was the offseason, it’s time to get to work.

[lambeauleap87]

I’m totally on board with Iglesias, I think he fits the mold of what the Indians need perfectly. But at the same time, I want nothing to do with trading Mejia unless they get an impact outfielder to contend this year.

In 2016 they tried to go all in but Lucroy messed that up for us. As a result, the team picked up the reliever it needed but not the impact bat. We need both to finish it off. After the snooze fest that was the offseason, it’s time to get to work.

Boy, thank goodness Lucroy vetoed that trade, though. Allen/Chang/Mejia for what amounted to the shell of Lucroy? Guess it worked out in the end.

I think Mejia can be the impact outfielder (...or catcher...or both) if they let him. Send whatever else you need to to Cincy/San Diego to bring back one of those elite relievers. They have a ton of pitching depth in the Minors (and Majors) to be able to let a guy like McKenzie go.

[tkraft24]

Boy, thank goodness Lucroy vetoed that trade, though. Allen/Chang/Mejia for what amounted to the shell of Lucroy? Guess it worked out in the end.

I think Mejia can be the impact outfielder (...or catcher...or both) if they let him. Send whatever else you need to to Cincy/San Diego to bring back one of those elite relievers. They have a ton of pitching depth in the Minors (and Majors) to be able to let a guy like McKenzie go.

Hey, if Lucroy would’ve been the guy to drive in that one extra run in G7 to win then I could care less who we gave up.

Agreed about Triston, I’ll be shocked if he’s an Indian come the deadline. With Mejia, the whole situation with him and the Indians just seems weird. I’m not really sure what to expect from him this year though I think he’ll hit long term.

[jataman2612]

I'd love to see a package deal for a pair like Iglesias/Schebler, Hand/Jankowski, or Steckenrider/Barraclough/Dietrich.

Yes , yes and yes.

[punkoholic]

According to Morosi, Astros expressed interest in Wilson Ramos.

Heyman also feels Astros have the best shot at Realmuto. Although I think he said it could happen at the deadline or even in the off season.

[bigtentickets]

As Fulmer is being shopped, fun comparison between Michael Fulmer and Justin Verlander through their first 69 Games.

ERA: MF - 3.61 , JV - 3.9
IP: MF - 431 , JV - 429.1
H/9: MF - 8.1 , JV - 8.6
HR/9: MF - 0.9 , JV - 0.98
BB/9: MF - 2.5 , JV - 3.06
SO/9: MF - 7 , JV - 6.94
WHIP: MF - 1.169, JV - 1.29

Both were named ROY and made All Stars their second full season.

Verlander lead the MLB in losses with 17 in his third season. Fulmer currently in his third season recovering from elbow surgery.

Weird to see such similar stats. Verlander turned the corner in his fourth full season. Can Fulmer do the same next year?

[rman112]

I'm curious if anyone would take Choo.

[Wade Mulroy]

Haven't read through everything in this thread, but figured I would post here instead of making a new thread.

What's everyone's thoughts on the future of Carlos Martinez? I feel like yesterday's loss to the Cubs may turn out to be very significant going forward. The Cards need to take 5-6 games from the Cubs in the two series coming out in the second half. With the loss yesterday, it's another step back in a very mediocre Cardinals season, once again.

Furthermore, it's no secret that certain teams have been asking about Martinez. Assuming the Cardinals don't make a run in the next week, do you see Martinez getting moved? Should the Cardinals do this?

I can see both arguments, since he is cost controlled, young, and has all the talent in the world. It would take a big package to get him, and personally, I think I am to the point of being willing to trade him. It's intriguing to think what we could get in return and I think this team is in desperate need of some new faces. Thoughts?

[tkraft24]

I'm curious if anyone would take Choo.

I’m curious how much salary Texas would be willing to eat? I mean, if they would take on most of the salary obligation then they could probably get a nice prospect in return which would make more sense for the organization.

[Hollywood42]

Apparently the Cards would trade Jose Martinez. That'd be a nice get for an AL team. He should really be a DH, but he'd be a pretty quality one. Not elite power, but above average power while hitting .300

[Wade Mulroy]

Apparently the Cards would trade Jose Martinez. That'd be a nice get for an AL team. He should really be a DH, but he'd be a pretty quality one. Not elite power, but above average power while hitting .300

Agreed; he's a disaster at 1b and passable in RF. His bat is worth having in the lineup though.

[Boo]

Padres wanted Miguel Andujar from the Yankees for Hand, lol.

Zach Britton is going to get traded. Astros, Yanks, Phillies among others interested. I'm guessing Phillies.

[yanksfan0134]

I’m wondering if the Yankees are going to add an arm.

[tkraft24]

Padres wanted Miguel Andujar from the Yankees for Hand, lol.


Yikes, no way in hell that was going to happen!

[rman112]

I’m curious how much salary Texas would be willing to eat? I mean, if they would take on most of the salary obligation then they could probably get a nice prospect in return which would make more sense for the organization.

His contract isn't terrible. Rest of this year plus 2 more full years, about 53 mil left in total. If they're going to trade him, now's probably the best value they'll get.

[tkraft24]

His contract isn't terrible. Rest of this year plus 2 more full years, about 53 mil left in total. If they're going to trade him, now's probably the best value they'll get.

That’s a lot of money for a player of his age, especially considering he’s a year removed from an injury shortened year. I’d love the Indians to go after him but I doubt they’d take on more than half his contract. But maybe Texas would be willing to eat that much if a top prospect they like was involved (i.e. Triston McKenzie).

[rman112]

That’s a lot of money for a player of his age, especially considering he’s a year removed from an injury shortened year. I’d love the Indians to go after him but I doubt they’d take on more than half his contract. But maybe Texas would be willing to eat that much if a top prospect they like was involved (i.e. Triston McKenzie).

Yeah, but he looks pretty good now at 36. His health will probably always be a concern as long as he's in the league, though. I think Texas could get a deal done if they wanted to.

[NeedChapmans]

I’m wondering if the Yankees are going to add an arm.

If it's not Bumgarner or DeGrom; there are no upgrades.

Happ had his audition vs. the Yankees and sucked. Then went to Boston and sucked even more. Would be crazy to count on him vs. Boston after having seen Mookie create a lifetime moment like that. Then you have Hamels whose ERA is up 70 points this month after getting lit up by Detroit, the White Sox and the Orioles. And Carlos Martinez who folded last night against the Cubs. What GM after seeing these three guys tank the last month is willing to offer anything of value?

Bumgarner and DeGrom. Anything else is lateral or a downgrade IMHO.

[jstasyk1121]

If it's not Bumgarner or DeGrom; there are no upgrades.

Happ had his audition vs. the Yankees and sucked. Then went to Boston and sucked even more. Would be crazy to count on him vs. Boston after having seen Mookie create a lifetime moment like that. Then you have Hamels whose ERA is up 70 points this month after getting lit up by Detroit, the White Sox and the Orioles. And Carlos Martinez who folded last night against the Cubs. What GM after seeing these three guys tank the last month is willing to offer anything of value?

Bumgarner and DeGrom. Anything else is lateral or a downgrade IMHO.

what about Fulmer...he has been bad for pretty much all year...not just the last month! lol

but he is young and somewhat promising still with some years of control left...

[NeedChapmans]

what about Fulmer...he has been bad for pretty much all year...not just the last month! lol

but he is young and somewhat promising still with some years of control left...

But you look at his last start vs. HOU; and that's the exact team you'll need to count on him to beat. Crushed.

I think most teams are likely set; favors the Astros tremendously in terms of the post-season.

[yanksfan0134]

If it's not Bumgarner or DeGrom; there are no upgrades.

Happ had his audition vs. the Yankees and sucked. Then went to Boston and sucked even more. Would be crazy to count on him vs. Boston after having seen Mookie create a lifetime moment like that. Then you have Hamels whose ERA is up 70 points this month after getting lit up by Detroit, the White Sox and the Orioles. And Carlos Martinez who folded last night against the Cubs. What GM after seeing these three guys tank the last month is willing to offer anything of value?

Bumgarner and DeGrom. Anything else is lateral or a downgrade IMHO.

My thing is, the Yankees are so scared to bring up Sheffield. Idk if they’re planning on trading him, but it seems like they refuse to call him up this year. Also, what about Heaney? Being young and controllable, I wonder what the Yankees would have to give up. Idek if he’s on the market, but the Angels aren’t winning, and could use some future assets.

[NeedChapmans]

My thing is, the Yankees are so scared to bring up Sheffield. Idk if they’re planning on trading him, but it seems like they refuse to call him up this year. Also, what about Heaney? Being young and controllable, I wonder what the Yankees would have to give up. Idek if he’s on the market, but the Angels aren’t winning, and could use some future assets.

Yankees are going to roll with Severino, Tanaka and Sabathia in the post-season. Sheffield already at 85 innings this year (having thrown just 100 last year); Yankees probably can't count on him in October no matter how well he does; just can't have him throwing 160 this year.

I'd be surprised if Cashman made a big move. He may very well end up bringing in a guy like Happ (which I think is a mistake), but I don't like their post-season chances without one of the two big guys. I think they're at an extreme disadvantage when matched up against Boston, Houston or Cleveland come October.

[Hollywood42]

Would they really need a pitcher they trade for to beat a team in the playoffs though? Like you said, they'll go with Sev, Tanaka, and CC for the most part. Until you get into the 7 game series, you really don't need any more than 3 starters. Plus you could use the starter you trade for if one of those first 3 pitchers blows up early on in a game

Once you get to 7 games, then yeah you'll probably be forced to use a 4th starter. But the Yanks have a pretty good shot at having to play Boston or Houston in the first round anyway. An average pitcher like Fulmer or Happ would probably be an upgrade over Gray, too, and could give them a better shot at the division rather than settling for a WC

But you look at his last start vs. HOU; and that's the exact team you'll need to count on him to beat. Crushed.

I think most teams are likely set; favors the Astros tremendously in terms of the post-season.

Yankees are going to roll with Severino, Tanaka and Sabathia in the post-season. Sheffield already at 85 innings this year (having thrown just 100 last year); Yankees probably can't count on him in October no matter how well he does; just can't have him throwing 160 this year.

I'd be surprised if Cashman made a big move. He may very well end up bringing in a guy like Happ (which I think is a mistake), but I don't like their post-season chances without one of the two big guys. I think they're at an extreme disadvantage when matched up against Boston, Houston or Cleveland come October.

[NeedChapmans]

Would they really need a pitcher they trade for to beat a team in the playoffs though? Like you said, they'll go with Sev, Tanaka, and CC for the most part. Until you get into the 7 game series, you really don't need any more than 3 starters. Plus you could use the starter you trade for if one of those first 3 pitchers blows up early on in a game

Once you get to 7 games, then yeah you'll probably be forced to use a 4th starter. But the Yanks have a pretty good shot at having to play Boston or Houston in the first round anyway

Tanaka is bad though. This is not first year Tanaka. This is, every other start allow 2 HR Tanaka. And IF the Yankees have to use Severino in a play-in game (which looks a bit more likely now) then what? You open on the road with Tanaka game 1 vs. someone like Verlander or Sale. And you only get to use Severino once in a 5 game series? Yankees big dogs there IMHO.

Tanaka's longest outing this season is 6.1 innings and his ERA is 4.5. Having him open up your playoff series vs. Boston or Houston and being counted on twice is just not good.

[NeedChapmans]

Tanaka is bad though. This is not first year Tanaka. This is, every other start allow 2 HR Tanaka. And IF the Yankees have to use Severino in a play-in game (which looks a bit more likely now) then what? You open on the road with Tanaka game 1 vs. someone like Verlander or Sale. And you only get to use Severino once in a 5 game series? Yankees big dogs there IMHO.

Tanaka's longest outing this season is 6.1 innings and his ERA is 4.5. Having him open up your playoff series vs. Boston or Houston and being counted on twice is just not good.

In his last 2 years; Tanaka has allowed 53 HR in 260 innings. Brutally bad.

[yanksfan0134]

Yankees are going to roll with Severino, Tanaka and Sabathia in the post-season. Sheffield already at 85 innings this year (having thrown just 100 last year); Yankees probably can't count on him in October no matter how well he does; just can't have him throwing 160 this year.

I'd be surprised if Cashman made a big move. He may very well end up bringing in a guy like Happ (which I think is a mistake), but I don't like their post-season chances without one of the two big guys. I think they're at an extreme disadvantage when matched up against Boston, Houston or Cleveland come October.

What if the Yankees went with a 6 man rotation and slid Sheff in there? They’d be giving CC the rest he needs for the playoffs, as well as Tanaka after coming off the DL. On top of that, it would limit Sheffield going forward. I’m just spitballing ideas here if we don’t make a trade

[Hollywood42]

Wouldn't that be an even bigger reason to trade for a decent pitcher though? Agree that you never know what you'll get from Tanaka, so wouldn't it make sense to have someone to at least back him up in the early innings if needed?

Tanaka is bad though. This is not first year Tanaka. This is, every other start allow 2 HR Tanaka. And IF the Yankees have to use Severino in a play-in game (which looks a bit more likely now) then what? You open on the road with Tanaka game 1 vs. someone like Verlander or Sale. And you only get to use Severino once in a 5 game series? Yankees big dogs there IMHO.

Tanaka's longest outing this season is 6.1 innings and his ERA is 4.5. Having him open up your playoff series vs. Boston or Houston and being counted on twice is just not good.

[NeedChapmans]

What if the Yankees went with a 6 man rotation and slid Sheff in there? They’d be giving CC the rest he needs for the playoffs, as well as Tanaka after coming off the DL. On top of that, it would limit Sheffield going forward. I’m just spitballing ideas here if we don’t make a trade

They may very well have to do that. If the division is out of reach; but the WC is secured ... 6 man rotation in mid-late August makes sense. German is another guy up against the innings clock; and with how Severino performed in the post-season last year; I think that's exactly what the Yankees should do.

But that's dangerous too, because when you go 6 man rotation, you cut the pen down by 1. And you don't want to overwork them either; you'll be dependent on innings from Betances, Robertson, Green and Chapman with this rotation. Sabathia and Tanaka never give length ...

[NeedChapmans]

Wouldn't that be an even bigger reason to trade for a decent pitcher though? Agree that you never know what you'll get from Tanaka, so wouldn't it make sense to have someone to at least back him up in the early innings if needed?

But we'll disagree on who is decent. I don't think the current versions of Happ, Hamels or Martinez get you anywhere. Like Darvish last year; I think no-trade is better than forcing a trade for someone who so clearly wasn't right at the deadline.

The game before Darvish went to LA, he lost to the Marlins 22-10 (10 ER)! Three weeks before that, he was shelled by Boston (7 ER). The Dodgers brought him in anyway, expecting him to be old Darvish; and he absolutely blew up their World Series. The writing is on the wall for this group of pitchers as well, and a GM would be foolish to think they'll get a retro version.

[Ray27Ray52]

Well we know Michael Fulmer isn't going anywhere now. Just placed on the DL.

[NeedChapmans]

Well we know Michael Fulmer isn't going anywhere now. Just placed on the DL.

Oblique. Saves any team from that mistake.

[Wolves4Life]

Well we know Michael Fulmer isn't going anywhere now. Just placed on the DL.

He can still get traded lol.

[AnthonyCorona]

Well we know Michael Fulmer isn't going anywhere now. Just placed on the DL.Pitcher on DL? Giants have got to be interested

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[Ray27Ray52]

He can still get traded lol.

No really? You don't say.

[NeedChapmans]

Familia on his way to OAK TOWN.

Oakland making a splash.

[packman80]

Maybe Brewers become sellers and not buyers at deadline. Losing streak now at 7 games and have lost 8 out of 9 games.

I think part of reason they would not go over the top to get Manny was because of teams's current losing streak

This team don't know what's happened if they lost their confidence or what but seems this team is falling apart.

[NeedChapmans]

Familia on his way to OAK TOWN.

Oakland making a splash.

Buster now saying could be the Giants. MAKE UP YOUR MIND! (The Giants would be stupid to do this but whatever).

[Athey49]

Maybe Brewers become sellers and not buyers at deadline. Losing streak now at 7 games and have lost 8 out of 9 games.

I think part of reason they would not go over the top to get Manny was because of teams's current losing streak

This team don't know what's happened if they lost their confidence or what but seems this team is falling apart.

I still think they'll go after Escobar, won't have to give up too much for him

[Wolves4Life]

Familia on his way to OAK TOWN.

Oakland making a splash.

Nothing official............yet.

[Hollywood42]

Not sold the Twins would move him. Maybe, but not sure

I still think they'll go after Escobar, won't have to give up too much for him

[NeedChapmans]

Olney tossing HOU out now as possible for Familia.

This f(@*ing guy. Source confirms Familia traded, but no idea to whom.

[Athey49]

Not sold the Twins would move him. Maybe, but not sure

Not sold on it either, but find it hard to believe Mikwaukee won't go after him

[NeedChapmans]

Nope. Not the Astros.

[NeedChapmans]

Nope. Not the Athletics.

[Hollywood42]

For sure, makes too much sense for them to not try to get him or Dozier. I just don't think they really have any worthwhile prospects for us after Huira or Burnes, both of which wouldn't be available

Not sold on it either, but find it hard to believe Mikwaukee won't go after him

[NeedChapmans]

Familia on his way to OAK TOWN.

Oakland making a splash.

And it is OAKLAND!

Buster w/ the misdirection.

[packman80]

Not sold on it either, but find it hard to believe Mikwaukee won't go after him

At this point is it worth giving up any prospect for MKE for a guy that is going to just be a bat off the bench? MKE struggles as of late and all the guys going on and off the DL this just seems like a lost season were things were looking good to start but team just got snakebit in July.

[rman112]

And it is OAKLAND!

Buster w/ the misdirection.

"Jeurys Familia headed to Oakland, if the two sides can finish the deal"

LOL.. really?

[NeedChapmans]

Oblique. Saves any team from that mistake.

Carlos Martinez to the DL with the same injury.

Nobody wants to be traded!

[prospects]

Na, dont trade degrom even though you would get a gold mine, keep him and sign daniel murphy in the season, then the wilpons will think they are contenders!


In other news, it took the wilpons 4 years to realize degrom was their best pitcher. He has been their best pitcher since 2014.

[gonygo]

And it is OAKLAND!

Buster w/ the misdirection.

I hope we can snag Sean Murphy. That boy can catch.

[Brewers3]

At this point is it worth giving up any prospect for MKE for a guy that is going to just be a bat off the bench? MKE struggles as of late and all the guys going on and off the DL this just seems like a lost season were things were looking good to start but team just got snakebit in July.

Um Dozier or Escobar would be the every day second base starter..

[packman80]

Um Dozier or Escobar would be the every day second base starter..

Yeah and a guy hitting .230 will really help the team.

[Hollywood42]

Yeah and a guy hitting .230 will really help the team.

:doh:

[prospects]

the brewers package for machado was embarrassing. what a waste of a season

[packman80]

the brewers package for machado was embarrassing. what a waste of a season

Why give up top prospects for a guy that is going to be half year rental and walk on you. Machado was not going to put this team over the top. PLUS it was said that Brewers offer was the second best. So much for "embarrasing".

[packman80]

:doh:

Let me guess you are person who thinks oh he's hitting .230 but but he got hot in second half in past so it will be a guarantee he does it again.

[Hollywood42]

More at your entire approach to the whole situation. Brewers have no shot because they're on a bit of a losing streak, saying Dozier would be a bench bat, completely ignoring the potential for Escobar, etc

Let me guess you are person who thinks oh he's hitting .230 but but he got hot in second half in past so it will be a guarantee he does it again.

[packman80]

More at your entire approach to the whole situation. Brewers have no shot because they're on a bit of a losing streak, saying Dozier would be a bench bat, completely ignoring the potential for Escobar, etc

This team is NOT going to a WS this year. We have seen it's weakness one bat won't change anything. To many injuries and to many guys who had career years last year coming back to their normal play. The pitching has been much better than expected this year which had been holding this team together. Before the season everyone thought it would be the pitching that would give Brewers trouble and the hitting to be the strong point on the team. Has been total oppoiste this year

[Hollywood42]

That's a fine and valid opinion, but suggesting that either Dozier or Escobar would be a bench bat is ridiculous

This team is NOT going to a WS this year. We have seen it's weakness one bat won't change anything. To many injuries and to many guys who had career years last year coming back to their normal play. The pitching has been much better than expected this year which had been holding this team together. Before the season everyone thought it would be the pitching that would give Brewers trouble and the hitting to be the strong point on the team. Has been total oppoiste this year

[prospects]

Why give up top prospects for a guy that is going to be half year rental and walk on you. Machado was not going to put this team over the top. PLUS it was said that Brewers offer was the second best. So much for "embarrasing".

phillips and luis ortiz. if that was second best then nobody besides the dodgers actually wanted him

[marlinsmaniac20]

Who do we think is In The familia deal?

[AnthonyCorona]

Who do we think is In The familia deal?Mateo straight up

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[prospects]

Who do we think is In The familia deal?

nobody good

[marlinsmaniac20]

nobody good

maybe PlayertoBenaMed later will be included :)!

[AnthonyCorona]

maybe PlayertoBenaMed later will be included :)!Cash Considerations is always involved in trades, still hasn't been called up. Maybe the Mets will finally give him a shot?

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[prospects]

maybe PlayertoBenaMed later will be included :)!

I am sure the coupons i mean wilpons are fighting for life for the athletics to take on the remaining 3 million owed to familia

#smallmarketteam
#dollarstoreshoppers
#embarassing

[prospects]

2 years ago famila was worth a magic package. today he brings this back:

Will Toffey, a 23-year-old third baseman and Oakland's 17th-ranked prospect, is one of the two players the Mets are getting in return for Jeurys Familia.

[prospects]

keep holding degrom. same will happen 2 years from now

[prospects]

once again, another salary dump for tampa bay mets

[tsnider45]

2 low level prospects plus international bonus money.

[prospects]

2 low level prospects plus international bonus money.

good job GM Jeff

[AnthonyCorona]

I guess I gave the Mets too much credit, I miss twitter right now

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[DSizzle31]

Sheesh. 2 no names and some money for Familia. What a freaking waste.

[prospects]

I guess I gave the Mets too much credit, I miss twitter right now

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lol the twitterers will keep complaining but will still give the wilponzies their money anways

[prospects]

Sheesh. 2 no names and some money for Familia. What a freaking waste.

did the same last year. I guarantee you mets did not eat any of his salary.

maybe they will trade wheeler for a 29 year old in aaa.

[SethMurphy]

Athletics are taking on all of the remaining money

Mets got $1M in international pool money plus the two prospects

[prospects]

Athletics are taking on all of the remaining money

Mets got $1M in international pool money plus the two prospects

shocker.

[baseballguy350]

H/T to mredsox89 who is reporting that Mata was just scratched from his start against Potomac.

[Hollywood42]

Apparently "a bit" of interest in Sonny Gray (why?), but Yanks want to add to rotation, not take away, per Heyman

[AnthonyCorona]

Apparently "a bit" of interest in Sonny Gray (why?), but Yanks want to add to rotation, not take away, per HeymanWho wants him?

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[Hollywood42]

Great question

Who wants him?

[tkraft24]

Athletics?

[AnthonyCorona]

Athletics?Gray and Frazier for Luzardo

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[rman112]

Astros:

0.2 combined between Harris and Devinski, 7 earned

[base set]

Things seem slow this year, so far.

Fulmer is off the table until Winter Meetings now - sent to the DL again. A rental of Mike Fiers will be Avila’s main chip this year. He also has a “profiles as DH” piece (Castellanos) a tagline about many a player of course, but usually older ones. Might be interesting to see what happens with Nicholas in a hitter’s park. But most of those clubs don’t need hitters.

[Boo]

Multiple teams are scouting Yankees starter Sonny Gray. (Nick Cafardo, Boston Globe)

• The Mets placed Syndergaard on the 10–day disabled list with hand, foot and mouth disease. Syndergaard is eligible to come of the DL on July 31, the same day as the trade deadline.

• Although Syndergaard and Jacob DeGrom have been rumored in trades, Zack Wheeler remains the most likely Mets starter to be dealt before the deadline. (Jon Heyman, FanCred Sports)

• The Orioles have receiving inquiries on pitchers Dylan Bundy and Kevin Gausman as well as second baseman Jonathan Schoop. (Roch Kubatko, MASNsports.com)

• The Colorado Rockies have been scouting Gausman and Bundy, but are also looking at starting pitchers. (Ken Rosenthal, The Athletic)

• Amid trade speculation, Texas Rangers pitcher Cole Hamels will start against the Oakland Athletics on Monday. (T.R. Sullivan, MLB.com)

• Asdrubal Cabrera could be the next Mets player to be traded. The Brewers, Indians, and Phillies have shown interest in the second baseman. (Buster Olney, ESPN.com)

• The Kansas City Royals are asking for three top–end prospects for second baseman Whit Merrifield. (Robert Murray, The Athletic)

• As many as eight teams are currently interested in Orioles reliever Zach Britton. The Astros appear to be "all in" on Britton. (Jim Bowden, MLB Network)

• The Athletics are seeking an upgrade in starting pitching and are interested in Detroit Tigers right-hander Mike Fiers. (Jon Paul Morosi, MLB.com)

[Hollywood42]

Still don't understand why anyone would trade for Gray

Multiple teams are scouting Yankees starter Sonny Gray. (Nick Cafardo, Boston Globe)

Can't imagine he'd bring in much of anything

• Although Syndergaard and Jacob DeGrom have been rumored in trades, Zack Wheeler remains the most likely Mets starter to be dealt before the deadline. (Jon Heyman, FanCred Sports)

What are they waiting for? O's gotta trade literally everyone with any value right now

• The Orioles have receiving inquiries on pitchers Dylan Bundy and Kevin Gausman as well as second baseman Jonathan Schoop. (Roch Kubatko, MASNsports.com)

Whit is good and has a few years of control, but I don't think he's worth 3 top end guys

• The Kansas City Royals are asking for three top–end prospects for second baseman Whit Merrifield. (Robert Murray, The Athletic)

Again, O's, what are you waiting for?

• As many as eight teams are currently interested in Orioles reliever Zach Britton. The Astros appear to be "all in" on Britton. (Jim Bowden, MLB Network)

[tkraft24]

The A’s are the only team that makes sense for Sonny Gray. Obviously the organization is vey familiar with him and he represents a low cost, buy low opportunity that fits the franchises MO. Who else would trust they could quickly turn him around for a playoff push?

[Boo]

The A’s are the only team that makes sense for Sonny Gray. Obviously the organization is vey familiar with him and he represents a low cost, buy low opportunity that fits the franchises MO. Who else would trust they could quickly turn him around for a playoff push?

I'm not sure what the A's are doing. There is a very low chance (.5%?) of them making the World Series. Why try to do all these trades?

Also I agree with the Orioles, just trade everyone now.

[SethMurphy]

I would love to see the Yankees trade Sonny Gray, get back one decent prospect, nothing earth-shattering. And then make a separate deal for a better contributor at SP.


Gray won't help us win anything this year, if someone else wants to try and reclaim him more power to them.

[base set]

Again, O's, what are you waiting for?

re: Britton - with 8 teams working the phone line to Baltimore for him, it should be obvious what they are waiting for

re: Baltimore starters being traded to Colorado - makes sense for the Rockies to get pitching already adapted to working in a hitter’s park.

re: Oakland - why wouldn’t Beane go for it a little? If you make the playoffs, it’s Just Win, Baby. Any of the Giant AL teams could hit an injury vortex and then Billy and his Beanstalk and his crafty deadline pickups are climbing up the rear view mirror.

[Hollywood42]

Morosi- https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/1021816881169092608

"In preliminary #RedSox-#Marlins trade talks, source says Miami indicated that Michael Chavis or Jay Groome alone would not be sufficient to acquire setup man Drew Steckenrider. That is one snapshot of the market value for controllable relievers. @MLB @MLBNetwork

12:58 PM - 24 Jul 2018"

Geeeeeez. I get relief pitchers are the new shiny toys everyone wants, but how many other people have never even heard of Steckenrider? Chavis or Groome alone seems like it'd be an overpay

[AnthonyCorona]

Morosi- https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/1021816881169092608

"In preliminary #RedSox-#Marlins trade talks, source says Miami indicated that Michael Chavis or Jay Groome alone would not be sufficient to acquire setup man Drew Steckenrider. That is one snapshot of the market value for controllable relievers. @MLB @MLBNetwork

12:58 PM - 24 Jul 2018"

Geeeeeez. I get relief pitchers are the new shiny toys everyone wants, but how many other people have never even heard of Steckenrider? Chavis or Groome alone seems like it'd be an overpayRockies payroll says relievers cost mucho dinero

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[lambeauleap87]

Indians need to entirely retool their outfield over the next week.

[Hollywood42]

Jays have apparently been asking for Frazier or Sheffield from the Yanks for Happ. Too high for NYY's taste, but they're still talking

[prospects]

Jays have apparently been asking for Frazier or Sheffield from the Yanks for Happ. Too high for NYY's taste, but they're still talking

If yankees do that they are dumb.

#1. The division is over.

#2. 35 year old Happ is not going to do squat in the playoffs

[rman112]

Morosi- https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/1021816881169092608

"In preliminary #RedSox-#Marlins trade talks, source says Miami indicated that Michael Chavis or Jay Groome alone would not be sufficient to acquire setup man Drew Steckenrider. That is one snapshot of the market value for controllable relievers. @MLB @MLBNetwork

12:58 PM - 24 Jul 2018"

Geeeeeez. I get relief pitchers are the new shiny toys everyone wants, but how many other people have never even heard of Steckenrider? Chavis or Groome alone seems like it'd be an overpay

Jeter sippin' on Grandpa's old cough medicine?

Steckenrider's numbers aren't even that impressive.

[rman112]

Jays have apparently been asking for Frazier or Sheffield from the Yanks for Happ. Too high for NYY's taste, but they're still talking

Just saw an article saying they've "lowered the price", and tweets saying Yanks are "heavy in the mix" for him.

[rman112]

Indians need to entirely retool their outfield over the next week.

Adam Jones should be cheap.

[Hollywood42]

Maybe realizing how poorly of a job they did with Yelich/Ozuna/Stanton an scrambling to try to get a decent farm system out of the few players with value they have left?

Jeter sippin' on Grandpa's old cough medicine?

Steckenrider's numbers aren't even that impressive.

[AnthonyCorona]

Maybe realizing how poorly of a job they did with Yelich/Ozuna/Stanton an scrambling to try to get a decent farm system out of the few players with value they have left?I'm surprised Realmuto isn't mentioned more (or maybe I haven't seen it). I would think he'd bring a decent return. Maybe Jeter can help out the Yanks again

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[rman112]

I'm surprised Realmuto isn't mentioned more (or maybe I haven't seen it). I would think he'd bring a decent return. Maybe Jeter can help out the Yanks again

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Higishioka and Walker sounds like a fair swap.

[AnthonyCorona]

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[Hollywood42]

No idea why they're holding onto him so long. He's by far the best trade chip they have and would net the best return of anyone they've traded this season

I'm surprised Realmuto isn't mentioned more (or maybe I haven't seen it). I would think he'd bring a decent return. Maybe Jeter can help out the Yanks again

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[AnthonyCorona]

No idea why they're holding onto him so long. He's by far the best trade chip they have and would net the best return of anyone they've traded this seasonI can only imagine they want him there for the rebuild? They might end up like some teams hanging on to great assets too long and end up with a lesser return
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[Hollywood42]

Jays close to sending Oh to the Rockies, per Morosi

[Hollywood42]

I don't understand how they can plan on that when they have literally nothing to rebuild with right now. You're not going to get enough pieces to rebuild by moving Castro and some relievers nobody has ever heard of

I can only imagine they want him there for the rebuild? They might end up like some teams hanging on to great assets too long and end up with a lesser return

[rman112]

Jays close to sending Oh to the Rockies, per Morosi

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