2018 Allen & Ginter Non-baseball Auto breakdown

[Eckstein197]

With the release of Ginter approaching and an official checklist out, I figured this would be a good place to place information on every non baseball signer. So when you pull this person’s auto, you can have a broad idea on who is who. Also speculation about what’s going to be a good pull or not can be here :)!

Alison Lee-former world number 1 in amateur women’s gold, one of the top female American golfers
Austin Rogers- viral jeopardy champion, won roughly 450,000 on jeopardy, has a cult following due to his quirkiness. Currently number 5 all time in jeopardy winnings
Bill James- I mean most baseball fans know this guy, well known statistician. Helped change the game of baseball
Ben Lecomte- Became the first man to swim across the Atlantic Ocean without a kickboard in 1998
Biz Markie - extremely well known rapper, his cards will sell really well
Claire Smith- first female beat writer for the MLB, covered the Yankees in the 1980s
Christopher McDonald- famous actor, well known for his role as Shooter McGavin in Happy Gilmore
Champ Pederson-Brother of Joc Pederson, some really great stories about him that all should google
Doris Burke- TV analyst for the nba
Genie Bouchard- tennis player, I believe top 10. Also gained social media fame for going on a date with someone after she bet him that the falcons wouldn’t lose when they were up 28-3 in the super bowl. Also she’s canadien.
H Jon Benjamin- mostly known for his role as Archer, a famous tv show
Jack Sock- American tennis player, ranked 15th in the world
Jaren Jackson JR- number 4 overall pick in this years nba draft to the Memphis Grizzlies
Jon Lovitz SNL actor, also played the rich Dad from the movie Benchwarmers
Kelsey Plum- plays for the Las Vegas Aces of the WNBA, was the number 1 pick last year
Lincoln Riley- head coach of the Oklahoma football team
Lindsey Vonn- world famous skier, has won numerous Olympic gold medals. Also dated tiger woods.
Molly McGrath- Sideline reporter for Espn for college football
Marvin Bagley III - number 2 overall pick in this years nba draft by Sacramento
Method Man - Rapper, was part of the famous Wu tang clan
Michael rapopport -actor, has a well known podcast. Known for his crude demeanor, definitely has a big following
Madison Keys- American tennis player, currently top 15
Paige Spiranac- former women’s golfer, now Sports Illustrates swimsuit model
Ryan Sickler - comedian and host of the podcast crabfeast
Stugotz- Sports talk radio host from Miami, known worldwide
Scott Blumstein- 2017 World Series of poker main event winner
Sean Evans- YouTube personality, host show called Hot Ones where he asks celebrities questions as they eat hot wings that get hotter as they go
Sonny Frederickson- Professional boxer
Scott Rogowsky- host of the trivia game HQ which is insanely popular especially among millennial. Millions play every night for free to win cash
Steve Simeone- Famous comedian
Sloane Stephens- World number 4 in women’s tennis, just won the french open last month
Collin Sexton- number 8 overall pick in this years nba draft by the Cleveland cavaliers
Theo Epstein- the drought killer, famous GM of the 04 Red Sox and 16 Cubs. He needs no other introduction
Tom Segura- comedian and podcaster
Tony Hawk- world famous skater, probably the biggest skateboard star the world has ever seen
Tommy Wiseau- actor and director, best known for The Room
Tyronn Lue- NBA champion as a player and coach, head coach currently of the Cleveland cavaliers
Chris Evans- Captain America from the marvel movies
Chris Hemsworth- Thor from the marvel movies
Mikal Bridges- 10th overall pick in this years nba draft, was traded to the suns on draft night

[13goyankees13]

Any thoughts on what the Bill James one will go for? I usually have no interest in non-sports autos but that one sounds really cool.

[tier1dc]

Biz markie- extremely well known rapper, his cards will sell really well


don't think that's the case. Method Man autos will be the one to get.

Biz will be $5 all day.

and I have to challenge your assumption that Stugotz is known worldwide. I bet people who work at ESPN don't even know who he is.

[Brewers3]

Bagley and Jackson are from this year's draft like you have down for Sexton, not last years.

[Eckstein197]

Any thoughts on what the Bill James one will go for? I usually have no interest in non-sports autos but that one sounds really cool.

I think that will be a solid seller, honestly not sure on the price range. Coming out of the gate, maybe like the 75 range?

Him and Epstein definitely will be solid sellers. I think the Hemsworth and Chris Evans autos will be the big hits. Marvel is huge right now. I’m going to guess the top 5 will be

Hemsworth
Chris Evans
Tony Hawk
Scott Rogowsky
One of the rappers autos

[Eckstein197]

Bagley and Jackson are from this year's draft like you have down for Sexton, not last years.

Yeah I was meaning to say this past years, because it had happened. But fixed it to fix any confusion

I think the basketball autos could be sneaky Good pulls the first week or so because Panini doesn’t have any basketball products with these guys in them until next month

[HeritageKing]

Weak isn't strong enough a word for this list. I guess if you never knew how great this product used to be you might think this list is strong. Lol

[garpike]

Duplicate Vonn and Hawk... Why when there is so many other Skaters and Skiers? But I bet they sell like crazy so there is that.

[tier1dc]

I think that will be a solid seller, honestly not sure on the price range. Coming out of the gate, maybe like the 75 range?

Him and Epstein definitely will be solid sellers. I think the Hemsworth and Chris Evans autos will be the big hits. Marvel is huge right now. I’m going to guess the top 5 will be

Hemsworth
Chris Evans
Tony Hawk
Scott Rogowsky
One of the rappers autos

Hemsworth has been in many Upper Deck products. He'll still command $ but Evans is #1 auto to have from this list. His stuff will fly.

Chris Evans
Bagley/Sexton/Bridges
Hemsworth
Genie Bouchard/Paige Spiranac (one of these will get high)
Scott Rogowsky

[LCM1223]

The Evans and Hemsworth will be big right? Also Tony Hawk and Vonn and maybe Theo?

Lol Tommy Wiseau. That would just be funny to get

[Eckstein197]

The Evans and Hemsworth will be big right? Also Tony Hawk and Vonn and maybe Theo?

Lol Tommy Wiseau. That would just be funny to get

Yeah the marvel fans will be all over those autos. Theo could get big but it’ll depend how much Red Sox and cubs fans value it at

[tier1dc]

Yeah the marvel fans will be all over those autos. Theo could get big but it’ll depend how much Red Sox and cubs fans value it at

but theo has been in 3 or 4 (maybe 5?) products at this point. have to imagine all his superfan's are good with his auto.

[coachnip13]

Weak isn't strong enough a word for this list. I guess if you never knew how great this product used to be you might think this list is strong. Lol

I'm seriously beginning to wonder why you bother with this board or this hobby at all.

[peterose4hof]

I like that the checklist has a lot of athletes from other sports.

I prefer athletes to youtube / 15 seconds of fame types.

[tier1dc]

I'm seriously beginning to wonder why you bother with this board or this hobby at all.

he could almost be a bot at this point. Doesn't like anything or anyone.

[wt55kt15]

I am excited - I like all of the weird autos! anyone here collect all non-baseball and have a photo album? I have 293+ so far if anyone wants to see.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/95309869@N07/albums/72157666670835423

[mnvikingstwins]

Why couldn't they do Shiffrin over Vonn, who hasn't been relevant since the Tiger Woods iron incident?

[HeritageKing]

he could almost be a bot at this point. Doesn't like anything or anyone.

Why try to polish a turd? This list is weak. Those who have bought cases of the product will tell you otherwise. Dealers who's have to sell this will tell you otherwise. People with relations with Topps will tell you otherwise, but check previous years lists...This is garbage. Sure there are a few good ones, and by good I don't mean stellar, but 95% of these names are garbage.

Can you really disagree with that?

[oldgoldy97]

I'm seriously beginning to wonder why you bother with this board or this hobby at all.

It wouldn’t be a retro themed product thread without his Debbie Downer insight.


I count 17 non baseball autos I wouldn’t mind having.

[oldgoldy97]

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[tier1dc]

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[Zeldafanatic15]

My wife and I really want an Austin Rogers auto, I saw when he shared his cards on Twitter about a month back, we both love Jeopardy and he was a lot of fun to watch. Also very much need a H Jon Benjamin card, big Bobs Burgers fans, and he didn't sign for the Cryptozoic Archer set, so was quite surprised to see him. This will be his first signed card.

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[jubei777]

had to google Paige Spiranac. yup, i'm in for an auto now.

[calculusdork]

Top 10 sellers out of the gate (my best guess, in no particular order):

Chris Hemsworth
Chris Evans
H. Jon Benjamin
Theo Epstein
Method Man
Scott Rogowsky
Tommy Wiseau
Tony Hawk
Lincoln Riley
Austin Rogers

Wiseau, Riley, and Rogers will probably drop off quickly, but I could see the first few sales being $50+.

The basketball guys could surprise early too, given none of them have cards yet (to my knowledge).

[kyle1707]

I thought list was going to be awful...

You always want to see 3-4 bigs names...

But as a whole it is a lot better then i thought it was going to be....

The baseball checklist is to big... which i expected... But there is a lot of stars and hofers

Not bad overall... the rips are filled with right players...

looks good imo

The NBA top picks and capt and thor really was big for this year....

[kyle1707]

Also madison keys grew up 5 minutes from me..

So that is cool

[Eckstein197]

Weak isn't strong enough a word for this list. I guess if you never knew how great this product used to be you might think this list is strong. Lol

Should we get off your lawn now or wait???

[Eckstein197]

It wouldn’t be a retro themed product thread without his Debbie Downer insight.


I count 17 non baseball autos I wouldn’t mind having.

I agree, I’m about the same, roughly 16/17 autos I’d like to have/hit. This checklist has a few big names and I feel some really solid depth. I’d rather have 2-3 big names and quality depth than 5 big names with a bunch of nobodies.

Also I wish Blumstein would have made a big run in the main event this year. Him busting out Day 1 sucks. But his autos might be popular, lots of money in the poker industry. Heck he might even drive the prices up himself with his large stack

[Brobocop]

Weak isn't strong enough a word for this list. I guess if you never knew how great this product used to be you might think this list is strong. Lol

As a non-sports collector, that list is pretty darn impressive.

[Fabolous]

Alison Lee-former world number 1 in the LPGA, one of the top female American golfers


#1 in LPGA is not correct. She was ranked #1 Amateur in World but not LPGA.

[Eckstein197]

#1 in LPGA is not correct. She was ranked #1 Amateur in World but not LPGA.

Sorry bout that, fixed it up

[auctionjmm]

Why try to polish a turd? This list is weak. Those who have bought cases of the product will tell you otherwise. Dealers who's have to sell this will tell you otherwise. People with relations with Topps will tell you otherwise, but check previous years lists...This is garbage. Sure there are a few good ones, and by good I don't mean stellar, but 95% of these names are garbage.

Can you really disagree with that?

As always, you are wrong again. I have been a case breaker and dealer of Ginter since 2010 and this list is one of the best overall lists they've ever had. You are too focused on the handful of autos that sold for 700-1K and this release doesn't have one of those, but the overall quality is much stronger than most years. Far less "fillers" than most years. This is a really good list dude.

[beauspencer]

Also madison keys grew up 5 minutes from me..

Quad Cities Represent!

[tomchi]

Weak set

[unclemonkey]

Bill James would be cool

The basketball players a plus

[coltsnsox07]

I want a Coach McGuirk!

[kyle1707]

Quad Cities Represent!

QC USA... lol

[kyle1707]

Weak set

Livid and furious.....

[kyle1707]

Why try to polish a turd? This list is weak. Those who have bought cases of the product will tell you otherwise. Dealers who's have to sell this will tell you otherwise. People with relations with Topps will tell you otherwise, but check previous years lists...This is garbage. Sure there are a few good ones, and by good I don't mean stellar, but 95% of these names are garbage.

Can you really disagree with that?

I have been bashing topps this year on production and my lack of nice hits..

But just the base baseball and non baseball checklist....

there is 110 cards...

i would say at least 25-30 are really nice... so 1/3

with many more mid level hits...

I am shocked how much better it is then i thought....

Then all the insert autos.. which the checklists are just big names

the rip card checklist is loaded

originals metals etc...

now we just wait till monday or tuesday when brent rolls in with the odds and case run....

Not out of the woods yet....

But if it sticks to 6-7 autos and 2 rips... it is going to be ok

[calculusdork]

now we just wait till monday or tuesday when brent rolls in with the odds and case run....

Purely speculation, but the rip card checklist went from 90 last year to 100 this year. If those are #/60 again and duals are #/10, it's an increase from 2,925 cases to 3,225 cases. I would bet something like rips are up to #/75 and production is up near 4,000 cases ... but again, purely speculation. We'll find out soon.

I'm out on Ginter, but if Ginter X is the same format and print run as it was last year, I'm in for a case or two.

[coachnip13]

if Ginter X is the same format and print run as it was last year, I'm in for a case or two.

Same. Love those red minis.

[kyle1707]

Purely speculation, but the rip card checklist went from 90 last year to 100 this year. If those are #/60 again and duals are #/10, it's an increase from 2,925 cases to 3,225 cases. I would bet something like rips are up to #/75 and production is up near 4,000 cases ... but again, purely speculation. We'll find out soon.

I'm out on Ginter, but if Ginter X is the same format and print run as it was last year, I'm in for a case or two.

i'm guessing 4000 cases .... would love to see 3225.......

Ginter X was one of the products of the year last year... i am guessing they will run presses on that also......

[auctionjmm]

Purely speculation, but the rip card checklist went from 90 last year to 100 this year. If those are #/60 again and duals are #/10, it's an increase from 2,925 cases to 3,225 cases. I would bet something like rips are up to #/75 and production is up near 4,000 cases ... but again, purely speculation. We'll find out soon.

I'm out on Ginter, but if Ginter X is the same format and print run as it was last year, I'm in for a case or two.

i'm guessing 4000 cases .... would love to see 3225.......

Ginter X was one of the products of the year last year... i am guessing they will run presses on that also......

The last few products were exactly 50% increase so I'm going with 4,400 cases and rips being higher than 75.

[kyle1707]

The last few products were exactly 50% increase so I'm going with 4,400 cases and rips being higher than 75.

That would be rough.

But I doubt they change there plan for 2018

It won’t hurt value of rips much

But it just makes getting a bigger hit so tough

[mnvikingstwins]

Bouchard was top 10, then slipped in locker room, sued tennis, won some of settlement, but now is second to last in odds each tournament.

Not sure if Spiranic is any good at golf, but she has a massive rack which is most of her Instagram posts and worth following

[Pearce77]

Spirainyourwrist

[kyle1707]

Bouchard was top 10, then slipped in locker room, sued tennis, won some of settlement, but now is second to last in odds each tournament.

Not sure if Spiranic is any good at golf, but she has a massive rack which is most of her Instagram posts and worth following

I was going to bring her up.

I would not be shocked if her first few autos were as high as 50 bucks

[infinit36]

[/QUOTE]Method Man - Rapper, was part of the famous Wu tang clan
[/QUOTE]


Slight correction ...IS part of the famous Wu Tang Clan. Lol sorry, huge fan so that stood out

Thanks for putting this out here



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[infinit36]

Method Man - Rapper, was part of the famous Wu tang clan
[/QUOTE]


Slight correction ...IS part of the famous Wu Tang Clan. Lol sorry, huge fan so that stood out

Thanks for putting this out here



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...also, I obviously don’t know how to quote these things ha ha ha


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[Tones]

Id love them to do Christopher McDonald as Shooter Mcgavin, like they've done with Costner and Stallone :D

[kyleuk21]

I think they really got back to the solid athletes over the sports realm along with some popular actors among other people. Best all around list since 2012 I’d say.

[LVDan]

I’d love to see one of my musical icons included some year.
I’d pay good $ for a warren Haynes a&g auto


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[peterose4hof]

Has anyone been tracking the non-sports auto prices?

I'm curious what some of these have settled in at now that the product has been live for a while.

[mnvikingstwins]

Has anyone been tracking the non-sports auto prices?

I'm curious what some of these have settled in at now that the product has been live for a while.

They're going way down. Vonn is at $50 or under

[trogdor]

I just pulled a Champ Pederson auto and was disappointed to see it only goes for about $15

[DRZ84]

I think the celeb/non baseball autos were pretty weak this year. No one that I would care to try and collect. The fabled relics and DNA's are great though.

[kyleuk21]

Pulled a Theo Epstein auto the other day which was fun. Baseball genius

[beauspencer]

Pulled a Genie Bouchard 1/25 yesterday. Put it on the bay for $90 buy it now and it sold in 10 minutes.

[DRZ84]

Pulled a Theo Epstein auto the other day which was fun. Baseball genius

That's the one to pull IMO.

[cl456123]

Pulled a Genie Bouchard 1/25 yesterday. Put it on the bay for $90 buy it now and it sold in 10 minutes.

Funny sometimes reading through old posts about stuff, while that one was numbered "1"/25, i think you killed it at 90 bucks. I've seen those go for around 30-40 in current times.

[cl456123]

Just some other interesting stuff related to what others posted.. I pulled a Method Man auto and am long waiting for the redemption of it and also bought a Biz Markie at redemption at $10 (also waiting).

I'm interested to see prices once these cards are live, I've seen some of the non baseball autos really jump in prices way after the release as they become hard to find. Was thinking of selling as a "Rapper" lot once they finally get to me.

[Cactuspies]

Biz Markies are shipping! Now hopefully Meth can sign!