A gigantic waste of potential...

[TWard]

Just got the update that Browns rookie WR Antonio Callaway was cited Sunday morning with weed and a suspended license.

This dude is so supremely talented. I watched him play his entire career at Florida and he was a stud. However, putting it nicely, he’s a knucklehead. His head is not on straight whatsoever. Entering 2018, he was right up there with Calvin Ridley as the top WR in the nation and if he had a clean record, he more than likely would’ve been a first round pick.

However, he couldn’t stay outta trouble, but was still drafted by the Browns in the 4th round. Can’t blame the Browns because he is amazingly talented, and I was kinda hoping the Colts would take a flyer on him in the later rounds. I believe he’s so talented, that he could be Antonio Brown Lite, but doubt that’s gonna happen now.


But it looks like Callaway is just gonna become another one of those “what if” receivers. It’s a damn shame. This kid could become a top-10 WR in the league but he just wants to be another NFL knucklehead.

Hopefully he gets his s*** together but judging off his past, that ain’t gonna happen any time soon.

Damn shame.

[Siberian13]

Browns just keep drafting so well.

[hairysasquatch]

Browns gonna Browns.

[TWard]

Browns just keep drafting so well.


Can’t say I blame them for taking a shot on him. If they didn’t take him, someone else was going to. I doubt he would’ve made it to the 6th round. If I was a GM and I had the opportunity to use a late 4th on a knucklehead WR that had the skills to be a great WR, I’d take the chance.

[IronMonkey415]

Isn't Brown also an Urban word for Weed?

[Siberian13]

Can’t say I blame them for taking a shot on him. If they didn’t take him, someone else was going to. I doubt he would’ve made it to the 6th round. If I was a GM and I had the opportunity to use a late 4th on a knucklehead WR that had the skills to be a great WR, I’d take the chance.

Based on the Browns history of drafting and guys like Josh Gordon, you would think they would try another route. They take chances every year and they don't work out.

[Siberian13]

Isn't Brown also an Urban word for Weed?

I don't want no Bobby Brown, I want Al Green!

[TWard]

I don't want no Bobby Brown, I want Al Green!


Sunday I ain’t bumpin no rap, I’m bumpin Al Green
Monday I ain’t sellin no white, I’m sellin all green

[TheFrenzy]

How much more talent would we get to see on display every Sunday if teams could stipulate in rookie contracts that guys had to live in team barracks until they made it to their second contract?

*Not a serious suggestion. Just a "what if"

[hairysasquatch]

How much more talent would we get to see on display every Sunday if teams could stipulate in rookie contracts that guys had to live in team barracks until they made it to their second contract?

*Not a serious suggestion. Just a "what if"

Browns team barracks would be a 24/7 party shack. Team could market a reality show and make bank.

The Lions, Bills, and Jets are grateful to the Browns for their iron grip on the mantle of the league's worst-run franchise.

[majestik101]

sounds like par for the course

[88horsepower]

I don’t believe in voodoo or curses, but the Browns might just make me rethink that. I’ve never seen a more snakebit franchise.

[ucLAkers]

I don’t believe in voodoo or curses, but the Browns might just make me rethink that. I’ve never seen a more snakebit franchise.

Have you ever watched this?

https://youtu.be/R909Fyu5DJA

[aaron2]

Claims the car wasn’t his and he let other people drive it before it was shipped to him...seems like a 4 game suspension to me.

[TWard]

Have you ever watched this?



https://youtu.be/R909Fyu5DJA


Wow, that was really interesting.

Also, my birthday is April... you guessed it... 22nd. :)

[PrimeTimeScott]

Have you ever watched this?

https://youtu.be/R909Fyu5DJA

Wow, that was interesting!!

[Josh611]

Have you ever watched this?

https://youtu.be/R909Fyu5DJA

That is nuts.

Definitely recommend watching.

[myerscards]

Claims the car wasn’t his and he let other people drive it before it was shipped to him...seems like a 4 game suspension to me.

This doesn't sound familiar. He must have got caught on LIVE PD that all they say on that show.

[jcardstore]

I just don't understand how some of these guys are so dumb. You just got handed a $4m contract, why the hell are you driving your own car around with a suspended license? Take an uber, hire a driver, don't be an idiot and create problems for yourself.

Also, I get that guys don't agree with weed being on the banned list for the NFL but it is and if you want to play you need to follow the rules. I love craft beer but if someone was willing to pay me a million dollars a year and they told me I couldn't drink beer anymore? Easy decision, I'd take it another step further and be sober as a gopher every damn day.

[ILOVEBEER]

Apparently they found bullets and gun parts in the car as well. I'm guessing he's not a casual gun owner. Hmmm why would he have gun parts.....

Not looking good.

[Stat Monsters]

The adage is "You can take the thug out of the ghetto but you can't take the ghetto out of the thug"

The problem with urban youth is they lack judgement skills, wisdom, intelligence and maturity. They usually are emotion based impulsive decision makers, thus the high rate of out of wedlock pregnancies with girls they have no intention of marrying nor children they want to raise. They tend to go with whatever "feels good" be it drugs, sex, and violence (instead of "let's think about it" and "let's talk it through" it's more fisticuffs and gunfire). It's about ego and pride, making it rain at strip clubs, buying multiple cars, having a posse to support, sporting flashy jewelry, etc.

So, it's never quite a surprise when urban youth goes buck wild and fails to live up to their potential. The universities need to stop treating scholarship athletes like slaves for the sport and be responsible educational institutions and have every single athlete leave with a proper education.

[jubei777]

I’m thinking he won’t be with the team by the end of preseason. Too much negative press

[dcarado]

I'm sooo glad Corey Coleman got out of there while he's still young. That place is a dumpster fire.

[jcardstore]

The universities need to stop treating scholarship athletes like slaves for the sport and be responsible educational institutions and have every single athlete leave with a proper education.

So I don’t really agree with anything else you said but I do agree with this last point but it has to start at a much younger age.

[ILOVEBEER]

I'm sooo glad Corey Coleman got out of there while he's still young. That place is a dumpster fire.

Corey isn't the best WR. Sounds like he really wasn't giving 100%. Probably another headache in the making.

[JHH]

Have you ever watched this?

https://youtu.be/R909Fyu5DJA

This is....wow :eek:

[Cavaliercards]

Apparently they found bullets and gun parts in the car as well. I'm guessing he's not a casual gun owner. Hmmm why would he have gun parts.....

Not looking good.

Casual gun owner could have parts too, might have parts because he has excess or is custom building or swapping out.

[hostilecarrot]

The guy got caught with some weed in 21st century America and you call him a “waste of potential.” Am I seriously the only one who thinks that’s a bit of a stretch?

[AnthonyCorona]

The guy got caught with some weed in 21st century America and you call him a “waste of potential.” Am I seriously the only one who thinks that’s a bit of a stretch?I agree 100%

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[ILOVEBEER]

Casual gun owner could have parts too, might have parts because he has excess or is custom building or swapping out.

Yeah, sure. Swapping out parts....

Well he's fitting in very well in Cleveland....drugs and guns.

[TWard]

The guy got caught with some weed in 21st century America and you call him a “waste of potential.” Am I seriously the only one who thinks that’s a bit of a stretch?


Have you looked at his off-the-field resume at Florida?

I don’t care that he got caught with weed. But he needs to stop being a dumbass. He’s gonna go from a potential 1st round pick to (probably) out of the league in a couple of years because of his dumbassery. Yeah, I’d call that a waste of potential.

[ILOVEBEER]

Have you looked at his off-the-field resume at Florida?

I don’t care that he got caught with weed. But he needs to stop being a dumbass. He’s gonna go from a potential 1st round pick to (probably) out of the league in a couple of years because of his dumbassery. Yeah, I’d call that a waste of potential.

Agreed. Diluted sample at the combine, admitted to smoking weed before combine, suspended license, weed in the car, had a holster and bullets but no gun, didn't report the incident-Browns found out about the arrest from ESPN.

Heading down he wrong path for sure

[Cavaliercards]

Yeah, sure. Swapping out parts....

Well he's fitting in very well in Cleveland....drugs and guns.

One is legal and protected and the other he needs to clean up.

I had some parts in my vehicle that I had swapped out after being at a range.

[Yunked]

That sucks

[ILOVEBEER]

One is legal and protected and the other he needs to clean up.

I had some parts in my vehicle that I had swapped out after being at a range.

Yes, you and I would be able to explain gun parts. Why was did he have a holster and bullets but no gun? That's very odd. Plus if he did have a gun, he needs a CCW permit in Ohio, even for open carry. Theres more to this story, which is the concerning part.

[Cavaliercards]

Yes, you and I would be able to explain gun parts. Why was did he have a holster and bullets but no gun? That's very odd. Plus if he did have a gun, he needs a CCW permit in Ohio, even for open carry. Theres more to this story, which is the concerning part.

Car was shipped from Florida recently and there is proof of that, so there could be a number of reasons

[Stifle]

The Browns drafted a Florida Gators Wide receiver ........ Why not just draft a Ohio State quarterback as well with all the success that program has pumped out since helmets switched from leather. Good thing the Browns also strayed away from recently drafting a Notre Dame QB as well. Ouch.

[jcardstore]

Yes, you and I would be able to explain gun parts. Why was did he have a holster and bullets but no gun? That's very odd. Plus if he did have a gun, he needs a CCW permit in Ohio, even for open carry. Theres more to this story, which is the concerning part.

You do not need a CCW for open carry in Ohio. You can open carry in your vehicle without a CCW as long as it's not loaded unless they've recently passed a new bill that I don't know about

[Siberian13]

Antonio Callaway is expected to be active for Thursday's preseason opener

[ILOVEBEER]

Antonio Callaway is expected to be active for Thursday's preseason opener

He looks talented for sure. Hopefully someone wakes him up.

[Archangel1775]

Very talented....

[Josh611]

Odd punishment if you ask me lol

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24359794/cleveland-browns-kept-antonio-callaway-game-punishment

[rman112]

So I don’t really agree with anything else you said but I do agree with this last point but it has to start at a much younger age.

In these cases, both the players and the schools aren't interested in class.

Professional football is a profession. Some people go to school to ultimately get a job in psychology or physical therapy. These guys are there for their pre-NFL degrees. Is there a small chance it works out? Absolutely. But they make their choices.

[Siberian13]

Odd punishment if you ask me lol

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24359794/cleveland-browns-kept-antonio-callaway-game-punishment

You really let the team and organization down. Now get out there and play. Don’t worry about the other guys trying to make the team and get reps. They aren’t as talented. Solid message sent by the Browns.

[hostilecarrot]

Three receptions, 87 yards, and a td in his first NFL game. Preseason or not, this guy has talent and it is not going wasted. The thought that he is a waste of potential because he smokes weed is laughable and he proved it Thursday. It’s the 21st century. People smoke weed now and pro athletes are no exception. Get used to it.

[rman112]

Three receptions, 87 yards, and a td in his first NFL game. Preseason or not, this guy has talent and it is not going wasted. The thought that he is a waste of potential because he smokes weed is laughable and he proved it Thursday. It’s the 21st century. People smoke weed now and pro athletes are no exception. Get used to it.

And if he gets suspended because of it?

[hxcmilkshake]

Hes Josh Gordon part II not long for this league. But I don't get the punishment. Is this sabermetrics??

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[hostilecarrot]

And if he gets suspended because of it?

Then he won’t play a couple of games. That’s how suspensions work.

So far OP has called him a “dumbass,” “knucklehead,” and “gigantic waste of potential” that is involved in “dumbassery.” All I’m saying is, it’s the 21st century and no one really cares. His punishment from his head coach was literally making him play and he overwhelmingly proved he belongs in the NFL. Meanwhile, OP has stated quite eloquently that the guy’s whole career is essentially over.

[rman112]

Then he won’t play a couple of games. That’s how suspensions work.

So far OP has called him a “dumbass,” “knucklehead,” and “gigantic waste of potential” that is involved in “dumbassery.” All I’m saying is, it’s the 21st century and no one really cares. His punishment from his head coach was literally making him play and he overwhelmingly proved he belongs in the NFL. Meanwhile, OP has stated quite eloquently that the guy’s whole career is essentially over.

I get what you're saying, but no matter what your opinion of weed is, a suspension served because of it would be a negative.

Like you said, plenty of guys smoke. Smoking isn't the problem. Being dumb enough to get caught and punished is.

[rman112]

Have you looked at his off-the-field resume at Florida?

I don’t care that he got caught with weed. But he needs to stop being a dumbass. He’s gonna go from a potential 1st round pick to (probably) out of the league in a couple of years because of his dumbassery. Yeah, I’d call that a waste of potential.

Good point, and one that hostilecarrot has not addressed.

Far more than just; guy smokes weed = guy is bad

[TWard]

Then he won’t play a couple of games. That’s how suspensions work.

So far OP has called him a “dumbass,” “knucklehead,” and “gigantic waste of potential” that is involved in “dumbassery.” All I’m saying is, it’s the 21st century and no one really cares. His punishment from his head coach was literally making him play and he overwhelmingly proved he belongs in the NFL. Meanwhile, OP has stated quite eloquently that the guy’s whole career is essentially over.


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You’re insistent that I care about the weed part. I don’t care about the weed part. He’s a dumbass. You’re only reading the things you want to read, not everything.

Like I said, I DO NOT CARE ABOUT WEED. However, the NFL considers it a drug and it violates the program. If you’re paying me millions of dollars and I’m a habitual smoker, guess what? I’m not smoking anymore. Most would do that too. He apparently doesn’t want to. The guy is a dumbass.

[Cavaliercards]

Was he found guilty or were any of the other players of the charges above? Players get hit with allegations all the time, it doesn't always make it true.

Far as the recreational stuff, if the NFL offered amnesty and allowed players to come clean the number would be high (no pun intended), but not as high as the NBAs.

The NFL is even partnering up with NFLPA about medicinal and how it can be used to manage pain, so in next few years I feel bad when guys like Josh Gordon are told they can legally do it again.

FYI I am not an advocate of it.

[TWard]

Was he found guilty or were any of the other players of the charges above? Players get hit with allegations all the time, it doesn't always make it true.

Far as the recreational stuff, if the NFL offered amnesty and allowed players to come clean the number would be high (no pun intended), but not as high as the NBAs.

The NFL is even partnering up with NFLPA about medicinal and how it can be used to manage pain, so in next few years I feel bad when guys like Josh Gordon are told they can legally do it again.

FYI I am not an advocate of it.


I honestly can’t recall. Wouldn’t surprise me if he didn’t.

However, he had run-ins with the law 4 times while enrolled at Florida. One time... I could probably forgive because crap happens. But 4? No. Either the cops are out for you, you’re the unluckiest dude on the planet, or you’re an idiot, and I’m leaning towards the latter. The NFL season hasn’t even started yet, and he was busted with weed and gun parts or whatever.

So, basically, 5 run-ins with law enforcement in a few years. That doesn’t look great, nor does it bold well for his NFL future.

[purejd86p]

Was he found guilty or were any of the other players of the charges above? Players get hit with allegations all the time, it doesn't always make it true.

Far as the recreational stuff, if the NFL offered amnesty and allowed players to come clean the number would be high (no pun intended), but not as high as the NBAs.

The NFL is even partnering up with NFLPA about medicinal and how it can be used to manage pain, so in next few years I feel bad when guys like Josh Gordon are told they can legally do it again.

FYI I am not an advocate of it.


He was cleared.

[rman112]

He was cleared.

"Phew!"

- OJ

[rman112]

Big time college football player from big time college football program getting away with something?

I wouldn't believe it if you told me!

[rman112]

Interesting Calloway tidbit:

Was cleared of sexual assault in college. His case was heard in an independent hearing. The judge? A former Gator athlete, who had also given $ to the Gators athletic programs in the past.

Nothing to see here!

[rman112]

Also involved in credit card fraud.

A good kid who we are just being too harsh on, no doubt.

[purejd86p]

Big time college football player from big time college football program getting away with something?

I wouldn't believe it if you told me!

I was just answering a question.

[rman112]

I was just answering a question.

Not attacking you personally. If it came out that way, I apologize.

[TWard]

Interesting Calloway tidbit:

Was cleared of sexual assault in college. His case was heard in an independent hearing. The judge? A former Gator athlete, who had also given $ to the Gators athletic programs in the past.

Nothing to see here!


I read that too. Very interesting to say the least. Credit card fraud, accused of sexual assault, multiple other run-ins with the law, caught with weed & gun parts... yeah, he’s a model citizen.

As I said in the OP, the kid is supremely talented. I watched him his entire collegiate career when he was actually on the field and not suspended. He could legit become a top-10 WR in the league but he can’t keep his head on straight. I’m not trying to bash him, but let’s call it what it is.

I’d bet he gets in trouble again before the NFL season reaches the halfway mark. He just can’t stay out of trouble.

[Cavaliercards]

I honestly can’t recall. Wouldn’t surprise me if he didn’t.

However, he had run-ins with the law 4 times while enrolled at Florida. One time... I could probably forgive because crap happens. But 4? No. Either the cops are out for you, you’re the unluckiest dude on the planet, or you’re an idiot, and I’m leaning towards the latter. The NFL season hasn’t even started yet, and he was busted with weed and gun parts or whatever.

So, basically, 5 run-ins with law enforcement in a few years. That doesn’t look great, nor does it bold well for his NFL future.

Callaway was drafted in the 4th Round. NFL has specific rules if you have been found guilty of what he was accused of.

NFL Bans Players Convicted of Sexual Assault, Domestic Violence from Combine.


Randy Moss had run-ins with the law, can name a whole list of athletes that did and went on to HOF Careers.

Callaway was given a ticket for the small amount found in his car, zero charges for the gun parts. They just are added in there as they were in the report to make it sizzle in the news. Same reason you will read so and so arrested for DUI and they had a Passport and $5000 in cash (when person is worth $50 million)

[Cavaliercards]

Also involved in credit card fraud.

A good kid who we are just being too harsh on, no doubt.

Caron Butler had a pretty crappy record and has turned out pretty well for himself.

[TWard]

Callaway was drafted in the 4th Round. NFL has specific rules if you have been found guilty of what he was accused of.



NFL Bans Players Convicted of Sexual Assault, Domestic Violence from Combine.





Randy Moss had run-ins with the law, can name a whole list of athletes that did and went on to HOF Careers.



Callaway was given a ticket for the small amount found in his car, zero charges for the gun parts. They just are added in there as they were in the report to make it sizzle in the news. Same reason you will read so and so arrested for DUI and they had a Passport and $5000 in cash (when person is worth $50 million)


We’ll see what happens.

[Cavaliercards]

I read that too. Very interesting to say the least. Credit card fraud, accused of sexual assault, multiple other run-ins with the law, caught with weed & gun parts... yeah, he’s a model citizen.

As I said in the OP, the kid is supremely talented. I watched him his entire collegiate career when he was actually on the field and not suspended. He could legit become a top-10 WR in the league but he can’t keep his head on straight. I’m not trying to bash him, but let’s call it what it is.

I’d bet he gets in trouble again before the NFL season reaches the halfway mark. He just can’t stay out of trouble.

Car was shipped and he didnt check it is what defense he is using. We have seen before athletes get in trouble because of their friends. NFL will have him drug tested a lot, so time will tell, but there was a woman in Virginia who rented a car. She goes to Target, reaches under the seat and there is a bag of drugs there. She calls the police and has it destroyed.

Always check your cars after loaning them to friends or when you rent one.

[Cavaliercards]

We’ll see what happens.

Of course we will, I dont plan on dropping dead and I doubt you plan that as well. So we will see yet another athlete make dumb mistakes and be fine. :)!

[TWard]

Of course we will, I dont plan on dropping dead and I doubt you plan that as well. So we will see yet another athlete make dumb mistakes and be fine. :)!


Basically. I want the kid to succeed as he’s super talented, but I’m just calling a spade a spade. We’ll see what shakes out.

[Cavaliercards]

Basically. I want the kid to succeed as he’s super talented, but I’m just calling a spade a spade. We’ll see what shakes out.

I see no spade, I see an athlete that made a mistake like many

Roethlisberger

Kobe

Derrick Mason

Jamal Lewis

Pac Man Jones

all fine

[rman112]

Caron Butler had a pretty crappy record and has turned out pretty well for himself.

Was moreso replying to the poster that seems to think his negatives are that he smokes weed. Not saying he's toast already. Not exactly the best of starts, though.

[Cavaliercards]

Was moreso replying to the poster that seems to think his negatives are that he smokes weed. Not saying he's toast already. Not exactly the best of starts, though.

Like I said we will see during Josh Gordon's career where the NFL uses it to recover from pain and Josh Gordon is gonna wanna know where his paychecks are

[rman112]

I see no spade, I see an athlete that made a mistake like many

Roethlisberger

Kobe

Derrick Mason

Jamal Lewis

Pac Man Jones

all fine

A guy like Pacman is widely viewed as a degenerate. If by fine, you mean "still allowed to play football", that's another story

[Cavaliercards]

Also involved in credit card fraud.

A good kid who we are just being too harsh on, no doubt.

Doug Gottlieb also got hit with CC Fraud, he is dong fine. (Not a fan)

[Cavaliercards]

A guy like Pacman is widely viewed as a degenerate. If by fine, you mean "still allowed to play football", that's another story

Am saying his NFL Career is still ongoing and fine.

[rman112]

Like I said we will see during Josh Gordon's career where the NFL uses it to recover from pain and Josh Gordon is gonna wanna know where his paychecks are

Weed is one thing

Sexual assault that was clearly cleared on bias, credit card fraud, driving with a suspended license, weed and guns are another. Signs of stupid and/or degenerate behavior.

Gordon's smoking weed were pretty far down the list of his poor decisions.

[rman112]

Am saying his NFL Career is still ongoing and fine.

Ok, but "fine" as a person, and "fine" because he was never kicked out of the league are two VERY different categorizations.

[Cavaliercards]

Weed is one thing

Sexual assault that was clearly cleared on bias, credit card fraud, driving with a suspended license, weed and guns are another. Signs of stupid and/or degenerate behavior.

Gordon's smoking weed were pretty far down the list of his poor decisions.

Your perceived bias and can show you CEOs and Politicians that have been successful in life that have been in trouble with law at young age and are now fine.

He was not driving with guns, there was a gun part and some ammo found, which he was not charged with as it was not a crime in Ohio or 90% of the US

[Cavaliercards]

Ok, but "fine" as a person, and "fine" because he was never kicked out of the league are two VERY different categorizations.

Like said his NFL Career is not over, it is in not in ruins, it is not wrecked, it is not on the cliffs.

[rman112]

Your perceived bias and can show you CEOs and Politicians that have been successful in life that have been in trouble with law at young age and are now fine.

He was not driving with guns, there was a gun part and some ammo found, which he was not charged with as it was not a crime in Ohio or 90% of the US

Perceived bias? It's not a one time thing.

Being able to get away with something because of who you are, your position, or your athletic skill isn't exactly a good thing. Would you agree?

[Cavaliercards]

Perceived bias? It's not a one time thing.

Being able to get away with something because of who you are, your position, or your athletic skill isn't exactly a good thing. Would you agree?

Then please show me where the Florida Legislature has impeached the judge or the FBI has launched a probe into undo influence? Until then perceived bias.

Will not agree, there was a student around here caught stealing. Student was a top student at a Top Academic School. The kid did not have rich parents or an athletic background, but he was a well known accomplished internationally recognized student. Commonwealth Attorney didnt even prosecute because the kid didnt deserve it and had committed a one time crime.

This kid was not convicted, a civil suit was not filed, now someone like Peyton Manning is in court records having paid off people that sued him after he sexually assaulted and harassed them. So there are steps that could have been taken and they weren't.

[rman112]

Give me a freaking break.

The school, Florida, hired an independent judge, who just happened to be a former Florida athlete and Florida athletic booster. And you want to talk to me about bias? Get out with that BS and think for yourself.

[rman112]

Is there any time more prevalent than now that shows what can happen to a sexual assault case against someone that stands to make their school money?

If you want to believe that because something is ruled one way, then that's what happened, no if's and or butts about it, I am sure you would agree that OJ undoubtedly did nothing. I mean, he was cleared, right?

[Cavaliercards]

Give me a freaking break.

The school, Florida, hired an independent judge, who just happened to be a former Florida athlete and Florida athletic booster. And you want to talk to me about bias? Get out with that BS and think for yourself.

Am thinking for myself and looking at the entire set of facts.

Victim told someone who told University judicial and the ball got rolling. The case was never referred to the University of Florida Police or Gainesville Police Departments and the victim and her witnesses had no problem giving statements to UF Judicial, but when contacted by the Law Enforcement and State Attorney refused to work with them. Her own text messages shown in public (but not to public) in hearing have her admitting she was faking being drunk, have her admitting how stoned he was (which she did to investigators as well) She went to the ER and a kit was done, no injuries were found to have happened. The Judge did not even accept the text messages into evidence from Callaway where she kept texting, flirting, and sending him pictures for an extended time afterwards. In addition, the victim and witnesses boycotted the hearing after they were reminded they had to sign more documents under penalty of Federal Law before the hearing (it was a Title IX hearing) and they said they were boycotting because of the judge. Previous documents would have violated UF honor code.

Victims get scared and do not want to come forward especially against athletes, I respect that, but she had a friend out her. She then gave statements saying what happened, when she was contact by proper law enforcement, she refused to cooperate and refused to sign documents for UF before the hearing under perjury of law. She has also not served him with a civil case, which many people do if they are so sure.

I am an alumni of UVA, Google "Rolling Stone" and "UVA" and there is an example of false accusations (which pisses me off to this day).

To answer your question again, yes I did think for myself and I looked at the totality of the situation.

[Cavaliercards]

Is there any time more prevalent than now that shows what can happen to a sexual assault case against someone that stands to make their school money?

If you want to believe that because something is ruled one way, then that's what happened, no if's and or butts about it, I am sure you would agree that OJ undoubtedly did nothing. I mean, he was cleared, right?

Looking at the evidence and what is out there as I did in Callaway case, OJ in my opinion did it, but a jury said he did not, so that is how thing go. He had a fine NFL Career beforehand.

Look at who the Broncos signed today a 3 time All-SEC Linebacker who was accused of assault and found not guilty and the evidence was pretty solid in his favor from what I have read, but took 3 years. On flip side can pull up a large number of athletes including football and basketball kicked out for sexual assault in recent years because more schools are being held accountable.

[rman112]

Am thinking for myself and looking at the entire set of facts.

Victim told someone who told University judicial and the ball got rolling. The case was never referred to the University of Florida Police or Gainesville Police Departments and the victim and her witnesses had no problem giving statements to UF Judicial, but when contacted by the Law Enforcement and State Attorney refused to work with them. Her own text messages shown in public (but not to public) in hearing have her admitting she was faking being drunk, have her admitting how stoned he was (which she did to investigators as well) She went to the ER and a kit was done, no injuries were found to have happened. The Judge did not even accept the text messages into evident from Callaway where she kep texting, flirting, and sending him pictures. In addition, the victim and witnesses boycotted the hearing after they were reminded they had to sign more documents under penalty of Federal Law before the hearing (it was a Title IX hearing) and they said they were boycotting because of the judge. Previous documents would have violated UF honor code.

Victims get scared and do not want to come forward especially against athletes, I respect that, but she had a friend out her. She then gave statements saying what happened, when she was contact by proper law enforcement, she refused to cooperate and refused to sign documents for UF before the hearing under perjury of law. She has also not served him with a civil case, which many people do if they are so sure.

I am an alumni of UVA, Google "Rolling Stone" and "UVA" and there is an example of false accusations (which pisses me off to this day).

I agree that these things do happen. If this was Calloway's only blemish, and if there wasn't any bias by the ruler (whether you think he did anything or not, you gotta admit there is a clear conflict of interest here), the picture would look different. Calloway, like him, don't like him, whatever, has shown little to nothing to demonstrate that he makes good decisions.

[Cavaliercards]

I agree that these things do happen. If this was Calloway's only blemish, and if there wasn't any bias by the ruler (whether you think he did anything or not, you gotta admit there is a clear conflict of interest here), the picture would look different. Calloway, like him, don't like him, whatever, has shown little to nothing to demonstrate that he makes good decisions.

The evidence shows clearly that he did nothing wrong, this is not a blemish anymore than it is for many falsely accused people in life. Again the number of individuals who have been rebellious in their youth (with minor court records) and succeeded in life are many.

[Cavaliercards]

Forum Timed out, so we got a double post

[rman112]

The evidence shows clear that he did nothing wrong, this is not a blemish anymore than it is for many athletes falsely accused. Again the number of individuals who have been rebellious in their youth (with minor court records) and succeeded in life are many.

I've never said he's done for for life, or even in the NFL. But his poor decision making is definitely there. Can he outgrow it and do better? Sure.

Agree or disagree, I just can't get past the ruling judge. For UF to hire a UF guy to make a ruling on a UF guy is what it is.

I'm unfamiliar with the UVA case you mentioned. Maybe I will check it out tomorrow. Pretty late here. I am familiar with the Duke Lax case, though. All it took was one biased DA to spin things a way that benefitted him. It's not exactly farfetched to believe this judge was hired to make one ruling, and one ruling only. I believe evidence was withheld there too (Duke case), but I could be mistaken.

[Cavaliercards]

I've never said he's done for for life, or even in the NFL. But his popr decision making is definitely there. Can he outgrow it and do better? Sure.

Agree or disagree, I just can't get past the ruling judge. For UF to hire a UF guy to make a ruling on a UF guy is what it is.

I'm unfamiliar with the UVA case you mentioned. Maybe I will check it out tomorrow. Pretty late here. I am familiar with the Duke Lax case, though. All it took was one biased DA to spin things a way that benefitted him. It's not exactly farfetched to believe this judge was hired to make one ruling, and one ruling only. I believe evidence was withheld there too (Duke case), but I could be mistaken.


The UVA Case in some ways beat the Duke Case out of the water. No charges, but Professors protested and watched as students threw bricks at the house. Greek life was shut down, University President spoke out against and didnt retract (thankfully she is gone now). Journalists didnt get the story right or fact check. Dean sues in Federal Court. Dawsons Creek references with a fake BF. It was a mess and too many were duped, but the story sounded too crazy in the beginning when I read it (when you read it you will see why on parts) and I urged caution, but I was willing to see it play out.

Again the totality of all the evidence being looked at (hers and his) including, the ER kit and the report from the ER staff, all add up to any judge being able to take the facts and dismiss the case.

[rman112]

Yikes. I will check that out tomorrow.

With the Duke case, what's crazy is when it came out it was all over the news. I don't remember hearing much after that. Honestly, I don't even remember hearing that they were innocent until the ESPN 30 for 30 a few year back.

But the issue with Calloway is that it wasn't any judge. That it was a UF guy leaves the door wide open that what was told about the case wasn't exactly what happened.

[Cavaliercards]

Yikes. I will check that out tomorrow.

With the Duke case, what's crazy is when it came out it was all over the news. I don't remember hearing much after that. Honestly, I don't even remember hearing that they were innocent until the ESPN 30 for 30 a few year back.

But the issue with Calloway is that it wasn't any judge. That it was a UF guy leaves the door wide open that what was told about the case wasn't exactly what happened.

The hearing but redacted info was made public, a lot of evidence to help Callaway was quashed.

The coach got hosed by the Duke thing, players did, and so did college lacrosse as players got an extra year.

[rman112]

The hearing but redacted info was made public, a lot of evidence to help Callaway was quashed.

The coach got hosed by the Duke thing, players did, and so did college lacrosse as players got an extra year.

I understand your viewpoint based on the evidence that was presented, but I think we can agree to disagree on what kind of impact the judge's conflict of interest had, or didn't have.

At the end of the day, all we can judge something on is what we're told, if we weren't actually there to view it for ourselves. Hell, we might even get it wrong then! I'd say more times than not stuff like this is called accurately, but for sure it's not always.

[hostilecarrot]

Was moreso replying to the poster that seems to think his negatives are that he smokes weed. Not saying he's toast already. Not exactly the best of starts, though.

My apologies, the negatives are that he smokes weed and has been cleared of charges in a student conduct hearing for sexual assault and had charges dismissed in a credit card fraud investigation.

I’m not saying he’s a model citizen but, “gigantic waste of potential,” dumbass”, that is engaged in “dumbassery” is quite a stretch.

[hostilecarrot]

I understand your viewpoint based on the evidence that was presented, but I think we can agree to disagree on what kind of impact the judge's conflict of interest had, or didn't have.

At the end of the day, all we can judge something on is what we're told, if we weren't actually there to view it for ourselves. Hell, we might even get it wrong then! I'd say more times than not stuff like this is called accurately, but for sure it's not always.

It was not a judge. That was a student conduct hearing . Charges were never even brought in criminal court.

[hostilecarrot]

Am thinking for myself and looking at the entire set of facts.

Apparently this is not the correct forum.

The legal system is just a sham. We should have allowed OP to be judge, jury, and executioner.

[rman112]

My apologies, the negatives are that he smokes weed and has been cleared of charges in a student conduct hearing for sexual assault and had charges dismissed in a credit card fraud investigation.

I’m not saying he’s a model citizen but, “gigantic waste of potential,” dumbass”, that is engaged in “dumbassery” is quite a stretch.

How many NFL players would you say smoke weed? I'd venture to say it's fairly high. Would you agree? 25% maybe?

How many of those guys get caught? The problem is being stupid enough to get caught. For Calloway, twice before he's even played a regular season down.

The guy failed a drug test at the combine. He was supposed to be living with his agent, in part to help him stay out of trouble. So what happens? They split, and he gets a new agent.

Then he gets caught again! This time at 3 AM for failing to yield in traffic. What's the old rule? Only break 1 law at a time. And with a suspended license and gun parts.

That is dumbassery no matter which way you slice it.

[rman112]

It was not a judge. That was a student conduct hearing . Charges were never even brought in criminal court.

What role did Jake Schickel have in the hearing?

[rman112]

and had charges dismissed in a credit card fraud investigation.

"Star receiver Antonio Callaway and six others have agreed to enter a pretrial intervention program that would lead to the dismissal of third-degree felony credit card charges for each."

"Charges will be dropped for those comply with the guidelines.."

So he did it. He got a deal.

"Callaway, for example, added $1,970 to his account on July 16. The next day, he purchased a 13-inch MacBook Pro and gloss black Beats headphones.."

[Siberian13]

TIL on Blowout:

Antonio Callaway = Panini

[TWard]

Apparently this is not the correct forum.

The legal system is just a sham. We should have allowed OP to be judge, jury, and executioner.


He is a dumbass. He doesn’t know how to make good decisions. I don’t understand how you can’t look at his track record and think, “wow this kid is a dumbass”.

Look at players like Larry Fitzgerald — never got in trouble at Pitt. Been in the NFL for 14 years and I have yet to hear anything negative about him. Hasn’t been involved in domestic violence, drugs, anything of that nature. He’s a model citizen. He doesn’t surround himself with dummies, nor does he make bad decisions that could jeopardize his career and HOF resumé.

Antonio Callaway, on the other hand, is the complete opposite. He surrounds himself with dummies and just does dumb things and apparently, doesn’t care if he plays in the NFL or not because of those decisions.

Therefore, I consider him a dumbass. I’m just calling a spade a spade. I guarantee you that, if most people looked at his track record, the overwhelming statement would be “wow, he’s a dumbass”. If you wanna consider him a model citizen and an upstanding gentleman like someone of Larry Fitzgerald’s caliber, then go for it.

[Siberian13]

Look at players like Larry Fitzgerald — never got in trouble at Pitt. Been in the NFL for 14 years and I have yet to hear anything negative about him. Hasn’t been involved in domestic violence, drugs, anything of that nature. He’s a model citizen. He doesn’t surround himself with dummies, nor does he make bad decisions that could jeopardize his career and HOF resumé.

"On New Year's Eve 2008, TMZ published a story that said Fitzgerald had been ordered to stay away from [former girlfriend Angela] Nazario. It detailed the allegations, gleaned from court documents, that she leveled against him -- that after the two began quarreling, Fitzgerald challenged her to a play fight. Nazario said she swung at Fitzgerald, who then pushed her. He "grabbed me by my hair with both hands on the back of my head very very hard and tossed me across the room." When Nazario tried to leave with their son, she said Fitzgerald "grabbed the back of my neck and slammed me down on the marble floor…. [I] was disoriented for awhile and could not get up, I remember he mumbled something about 'that's what happens when you try taking my son away from me.'" When she made it to her car, Nazario said she realized Fitzgerald had pulled out chunks of her hair."

[Cavaliercards]

He is a dumbass. He doesn’t know how to make good decisions. I don’t understand how you can’t look at his track record and think, “wow this kid is a dumbass”.

Look at players like Larry Fitzgerald — never got in trouble at Pitt. Been in the NFL for 14 years and I have yet to hear anything negative about him. Hasn’t been involved in domestic violence, drugs, anything of that nature. He’s a model citizen. He doesn’t surround himself with dummies, nor does he make bad decisions that could jeopardize his career and HOF resumé.

Antonio Callaway, on the other hand, is the complete opposite. He surrounds himself with dummies and just does dumb things and apparently, doesn’t care if he plays in the NFL or not because of those decisions.

Therefore, I consider him a dumbass. I’m just calling a spade a spade. I guarantee you that, if most people looked at his track record, the overwhelming statement would be “wow, he’s a dumbass”. If you wanna consider him a model citizen and an upstanding gentleman like someone of Larry Fitzgerald’s caliber, then go for it.

Larry Fitzgerald outstanding gentleman, never been in trouble huh?

Larry Fitzgerald is a woman beater that has had two protective orders issued against him by two different women.

On New Year’s Eve 2008, a story that said Fitzgerald had been ordered to stay away from Nazario. It detailed the allegations, gleaned from court documents, that she leveled against him — that after the two began quarreling, Fitzgerald challenged her to a play fight. Nazario said she swung at Fitzgerald, who then pushed her. He “grabbed me by my hair with both hands on the back of my head very very hard and tossed me across the room.” When Nazario tried to leave with their son, she said Fitzgerald “grabbed the back of my neck and slammed me down on the marble floor…. [I] was disoriented for awhile and could not get up, I remember he mumbled something about ‘that’s what happens when you try taking my son away from me.'” When she made it to her car, Nazario said she realized Fitzgerald had pulled out chunks of her hair.

Callaway is a better person than Fitzgerald as he has had a minor problem in the courts eyes, Larry though has a problem with hitting women and the courts have had to issue orders to protect them, Callaway never had that problem once.

There are people on this forum that have had issues and bounced back from them but I guess we should call them names and put them down as well because they had issues. They are a spade too apparently.

[hostilecarrot]

Look at players like Larry Fitzgerald . . . Hasn’t been involved in domestic violence

Well, this is awkward. It turns out that, like Antonio Calloway, OP is human and prone to mistakes.

Should we point and laugh at OP while calling him a “dumbass” and “gigantic waste of potential” or should we leave our moral high horses in the stable? Decisions, decisions...

[Wade Mulroy]

He is a dumbass. He doesn’t know how to make good decisions. I don’t understand how you can’t look at his track record and think, “wow this kid is a dumbass”.

Look at players like Larry Fitzgerald — never got in trouble at Pitt. Been in the NFL for 14 years and I have yet to hear anything negative about him. Hasn’t been involved in domestic violence, drugs, anything of that nature. He’s a model citizen. He doesn’t surround himself with dummies, nor does he make bad decisions that could jeopardize his career and HOF resumé.

Antonio Callaway, on the other hand, is the complete opposite. He surrounds himself with dummies and just does dumb things and apparently, doesn’t care if he plays in the NFL or not because of those decisions.

Therefore, I consider him a dumbass. I’m just calling a spade a spade. I guarantee you that, if most people looked at his track record, the overwhelming statement would be “wow, he’s a dumbass”. If you wanna consider him a model citizen and an upstanding gentleman like someone of Larry Fitzgerald’s caliber, then go for it.

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/shaking_head_breaking_bad.gif

[Siberian13]

"On New Year's Eve 2008, TMZ published a story that said Fitzgerald had been ordered to stay away from [former girlfriend Angela] Nazario. It detailed the allegations, gleaned from court documents, that she leveled against him -- that after the two began quarreling, Fitzgerald challenged her to a play fight. Nazario said she swung at Fitzgerald, who then pushed her. He "grabbed me by my hair with both hands on the back of my head very very hard and tossed me across the room." When Nazario tried to leave with their son, she said Fitzgerald "grabbed the back of my neck and slammed me down on the marble floor…. [I] was disoriented for awhile and could not get up, I remember he mumbled something about 'that's what happens when you try taking my son away from me.'" When she made it to her car, Nazario said she realized Fitzgerald had pulled out chunks of her hair."

Larry Fitzgerald outstanding gentleman, never been in trouble huh?

Larry Fitzgerald is a woman beater that has had two protective orders issued against him by two different women.

On New Year’s Eve 2008, a story that said Fitzgerald had been ordered to stay away from Nazario. It detailed the allegations, gleaned from court documents, that she leveled against him — that after the two began quarreling, Fitzgerald challenged her to a play fight. Nazario said she swung at Fitzgerald, who then pushed her. He “grabbed me by my hair with both hands on the back of my head very very hard and tossed me across the room.” When Nazario tried to leave with their son, she said Fitzgerald “grabbed the back of my neck and slammed me down on the marble floor…. [I] was disoriented for awhile and could not get up, I remember he mumbled something about ‘that’s what happens when you try taking my son away from me.'” When she made it to her car, Nazario said she realized Fitzgerald had pulled out chunks of her hair.

Callaway is a better person than Fitzgerald as he has had a minor problem in the courts eyes, Larry though has a problem with hitting women and the courts have had to issue orders to protect them, Callaway never had that problem once.

There are people on this forum that have had issues and bounced back from them but I guess we should call them names and put them down as well because they had issues. They are a spade too apparently.

someone has me on their block list? :)

[asujbl]

What a thread. 6 pages on a 4th rounder. Bravo.

[asujbl]

Larry Fitzgerald outstanding gentleman, never been in trouble huh?

Larry Fitzgerald is a woman beater that has had two protective orders issued against him by two different women.

On New Year’s Eve 2008, a story that said Fitzgerald had been ordered to stay away from Nazario. It detailed the allegations, gleaned from court documents, that she leveled against him — that after the two began quarreling, Fitzgerald challenged her to a play fight. Nazario said she swung at Fitzgerald, who then pushed her. He “grabbed me by my hair with both hands on the back of my head very very hard and tossed me across the room.” When Nazario tried to leave with their son, she said Fitzgerald “grabbed the back of my neck and slammed me down on the marble floor…. [I] was disoriented for awhile and could not get up, I remember he mumbled something about ‘that’s what happens when you try taking my son away from me.'” When she made it to her car, Nazario said she realized Fitzgerald had pulled out chunks of her hair.

Callaway is a better person than Fitzgerald as he has had a minor problem in the courts eyes, Larry though has a problem with hitting women and the courts have had to issue orders to protect them, Callaway never had that problem once.

There are people on this forum that have had issues and bounced back from them but I guess we should call them names and put them down as well because they had issues. They are a spade too apparently.

Boom. Roasted.

[Siberian13]

What a thread. 6 pages on a 4th rounder. Bravo.

TWard is right though. Calloway is wasting his potential. The ones defending the guys history need their heads examined. And that’s saying a lot coming from me. You know what I mean. :)

[Siberian13]

Also, the Browns have become Tom Brady. They seem to have a ton of different threads now.

[asujbl]

TWard is right though. Calloway is wasting his potential. The ones defending the guys history need their heads examined. And that’s saying a lot coming from me. You know what I mean. :)

He absolutely is

Still the #104 pick in the draft

If Buffalo takes him, so they don’t have Josh Gordon, do we care?

A WR was taken #101 if he’s suspended can you name him?

[rman112]

What a thread. 6 pages on a 4th rounder. Bravo.

Future post.

I like it.

[AnthonyCorona]

Also, the Browns have become Tom Brady. They seem to have a ton of different threads now.Tom Brady?? I don't remember any Browns players or coaches slippin tongue to their kid on Facebook

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[TWard]

Didn’t realize Fitz had been involved in an incident of that nature, as that was around the time I stopped watching football for a couple of years. Probably should’ve done some more research regarding that. Obviously, I don’t condone those actions.

Sorry, Blowout.

[ILOVEBEER]

Suspended. Ol' Tward was right. Out of shape and burned out.

[Cavaliercards]

Suspended. Ol' Tward was right. Out of shape and burned out.

Sounds like he got hit for what will be allowed under next CBA. Gotta follow the rules for another year even if you dont like them.

[Siberian13]

Pretty surprising he didn’t learn anything from his last 27 incidents. :)!

[ILOVEBEER]

He probably won't be around much longer. They have OBJ/Landry/Higgins already. Someone else will take his place. Trade him to the Patriots.

[Siberian13]

He probably won't be around much longer. They have OBJ/Landry/Higgins already. Someone else will take his place. Trade him to the Patriots.

Yeah your team has a solid 3 guys. Who are the 4th and 5th guys?

[asujbl]

Yeah your team has a solid 3 guys. Who are the 4th and 5th guys?

Willies, Strong, and Sheehy (had to throw him in there)

In reality Njoku or Higgins is really the 4th guy. We know Njoku isn't out there to block.

Callaway has been running with the 2nd team for the entirety of camp (if this is the reason I have no idea?) but they certainly haven't been counting on him for anything with the emergence of Higgins...

They are very high on Willies as well... but I'm not ready to pencil him in as an every game NFL player yet.

[JeremyNick]

If you have 3 good guys you don't need to worry about an "every game starter" just depth in case of an injury
No issue going into the year with OBJ, Landry and Higgins.

[rman112]

Somewhere, TWard is saying "Told ya so".

[rman112]

Maybe Cavaliercards will finally admit when a spade is a spade. The defending of idiotery is perplexing.

Maybe hostilecarrot will offer some insight.

[ILOVEBEER]

Not entirely his fault, but...not the game you want after being suspended.

[pejc300]

I totally forgot about Tward

[thenwhatjk]

OP clearly projecting

[deansayso]

I totally forgot about Tward

UN-BAN TWARD!

[CubKings]

UN-BAN TWARD!

Has anyone ever been unbanned?

[Cavaliercards]

UN-BAN TWARD!

He created a second account and then said he didnt when Houdini nailed him and ranted and carried on about it. That is going to definitely not earn an unban on here.

[Cavaliercards]

Maybe Cavaliercards will finally admit when a spade is a spade. The defending of idiotery is perplexing.

Maybe hostilecarrot will offer some insight.

Bad game does not make someone an idiot. :)!

[escapegoat]

tward was a first class tool. this place is better without that dbag

[88horsepower]

Who is to say he’d even want to come back here?

[Cavaliercards]

Who is to say he’d even want to come back here?

Well based on what he did after he got back, I would say he wanted to come back.

[marinocollector]

What a thread. 6 pages on a 4th rounder. Bravo.

Took awhile, but you called it.

[Siberian13]

Who is to say he’d even want to come back here?

He might already be back :)!

[Noles939913]

Why was he banned?

[ILOVEBEER]

Bad game does not make someone an idiot. :)!

No, but let's just look at his football career.

[Siberian13]

Why was he banned?

I think he was warned for posting in the NSFW photo thread. Lots of softies go in there and then get offended when they see memes that are nsfw :)!

[Cavaliercards]

No, but let's just look at his football career.

Good talent, just not putting it together like many NFLers that get drafted. Idiot would be lighting the locker room on fire after the loss. Big difference.

[Cavaliercards]

Why was he banned?

Post 61 and 72 of the linked thread

Tward thread (https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?p=13961941&highlight=tward#post13961941)

[Cavaliercards]

That awkward moment when TWard’s career on BO came to an end before Antonio Callaway’s career in the NFL.

Borrowed this from UnBan Tward Thread :D:)!

[hairysasquatch]

tward was a first class tool. this place is better without that dbag

Careful I got a vacation for a similar reaction after a ridiculous false accusation by WTard.

[Siberian13]

Careful I got a vacation for a similar reaction after a ridiculous false accusation by WTard.

I’m sure what you said was suspend worthy vs what he just said :)!

[rman112]

Bad game does not make someone an idiot. :)!

His overwhelming evidence throughout his career does.

You realize he's fresh off a suspension, and didn't even know where to line up on offense, right?

[hairysasquatch]

I’m sure what you said was suspend worthy vs what he just said :)!

You'd be wrong. I used an asterix. :p

[Siberian13]

You'd be wrong. I used an asterix. :p

Prove it :)

[Cavaliercards]

His overwhelming evidence throughout his career does.

You realize he's fresh off a suspension, and didn't even know where to line up on offense, right?

Yes I do and I also know Mike Evans, Gronk, and JuJu did same thing in past 12 months in regards to lining up. That does not make someone an idiot, just not paying attention.

:)!

[rman112]

Yes I do and I also know Mike Evans, Gronk, and JuJu did same thing in past 12 months in regards to lining up. That does not make someone an idiot, just not paying attention.

:)!

Now look in the mirror, and say that those guys are even remotely the same in character and career mistakes. Keep a straight face while doing it. Might as well put Dorial Green-Beckham in there as well. A better comparison.

Callaway was absolutely clueless out there. Off the field, he does not get it. That has been his reputation for years. Apparently, he doesn't get it on the field, either.

A spade is a spade, whether or not you will admit you were wrong (again). Is it a pride thing?

[Cavaliercards]

Now look in the mirror, and say that those guys are even remotely the same in character and career mistakes. Keep a straight face while doing it.

Callaway was absolutely clueless out there. Off the field, he does not get it. That has been his reputation for years. Apparently, he doesn't get it on the field, either.

A spade is a spade, whether or not you will admit you were wrong (again). Is it a pride thing?

Larry Fitzgerald has lined up in wrong spot before and he has worse character issues.

Off the field he failed a test for something that hundreds of NFL players admit they did weekly (admit when retired) and the league is studying allowing. Not going to call him an idiot for that. Hard for me to take that policy seriously anymore, even though I am anti-pot in every aspect.

Was not wrong about him. He still has talent and made a mistake. Not sure where this again comes from, but tally one on your board since you need that validation to make your day go by.

[rman112]

Larry Fitzgerald has lined up in wrong spot before and he has worse character issues.

Off the field he failed a test for something that hundreds of NFL players admit they did weekly (admit when retired) and the league is studying allowing. Not going to call him an idiot for that. Hard for me to take that policy seriously anymore, even though I am anti-pot in every aspect.

Was not wrong about him. He still has talent and made a mistake. Not sure where this again comes from, but tally one on your board since you need that validation to make your day go by.

"Made a mistake"

"A" mistake.

[rman112]

Sexual assault claim. Credit card fraud. Suspended license with weed and some gun parts. Suspended a full year in college. Suspended 1/4 of the year in the NFL. Doesn't know the plays.

...

"Made a mistake"

[rman112]

It looks like he lined up wrong on multiple occasions, and likely ran the wrong route on a play, as well. I don't remember Fitzgerald doing that .. in the first game returning from suspension because he was dumb enough to get himself suspended.

[JeremyNick]

Sexual assault claim. Credit card fraud. Suspended license with weed and some gun parts. Suspended a full year in college. Suspended 1/4 of the year in the NFL. Doesn't know the plays.

...

"Made a mistake"

Made a mistakes

[Siberian13]

Sexual assault claim. Credit card fraud. Suspended license with weed and some gun parts. Suspended a full year in college. Suspended 1/4 of the year in the NFL. Doesn't know the plays.

...

"Made a mistake"

It’s a TWard topic. Cavalier will fight you the whole way :)!

[Cavaliercards]

Made a mistakes

Got convicted of only suspended license, not illegal to have gun parts. :)!

[rman112]

Got convicted of only suspended license, not illegal to have gun parts. :)!

Phew!

[hairysasquatch]

Prove it :)

It was a good vacation. I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express and came back smarter. :coffee:

[JeremyNick]

Got convicted of only suspended license, not illegal to have gun parts. :)!

It may actually be illegal depending on what “parts” and how much documentation you are required to have for those parts.

[Siberian13]

It may actually be illegal depending on what “parts” and how much documentation you are required to have for those parts.

True on some gun parts but in this case if was the backstrap of a glock.

[JeremyNick]

True on some gun parts but in this case if was the backstrap of a glock.

So he got caught with molded plastic?
The horror.
He should have been cited for owning a glock. That’s the real crime.

[Noles939913]

So he got caught with molded plastic?
The horror.
He should have been cited for owning a glock. That’s the real crime.

“Perfection”

[Cavaliercards]

It may actually be illegal depending on what “parts” and how much documentation you are required to have for those parts.

Yes but the parts and ammo he had were not illegal is the point.

[JeremyNick]

Yes but the parts and ammo he had were not illegal is the point.

But everything else was. So there’s that.

[JeremyNick]

“Perfection”

Some of us have standards, the rest of yinz have Glocks.

[Noles939913]

Some of have standards, the rest have Glocks.

While I love the one Glock pistol that I own I’m not a fanboy by any means. But it is fun to poke fun at people that hate them like you because y’all come with the same tired old man jokes like the one you just said.

[JeremyNick]

While I love the one Glock pistol that I own I’m not a fanboy by any means. But it is fun to poke fun at people that hate them like you because y’all come with the same tired old man jokes like the one you just said.

And I like to poke fun at people who love Glocks. They feel like a plastic brick to me and I prefer the feel of metal. To each their own. :)!

ETA: I’m 35. I prefer modern cards and more vintage firearms.

[ILOVEBEER]

And I like to poke fun at people who love Glocks. They feel like a plastic brick to me and I prefer the feel of metal. To each their own. :)!

ETA: I’m 35. I prefer modern cards and more vintage firearms.

You know nothing about firearms. Your comment proves that.

[Noles939913]

You know nothing about firearms. Your comment proves that.

Okay glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed this.

[JeremyNick]

You know nothing about firearms. Your comment proves that.

This made me laugh.

[jcardstore]

You know nothing about firearms. Your comment proves that.

Give him a break, he likes the "more vintage firearms"

[JeremyNick]

Give him a break, he likes the "more vintage firearms"

Everyone is up in arms because of a purposeful word choice.

[Soxfanguy]

Never a dull moment with the Browns

[ILOVEBEER]

This made me laugh.

There is a firearms thread in Off topic. You're more than welcome to talk about your gun choices there. Be curious to hear what you have to say.

[jcardstore]

There is a firearms thread in Off topic. You're more than welcome to talk about your gun choices there. Be curious to hear what you have to say.

I'll bet it's that DevinKurant guy lol. Dude has posted almost 1000 times in like 3 months with no transactions and of course no ebay attached to his account. Oh and don't forget the generic a$$ username

He sure does have a lot to say :coffee:

[JeremyNick]

I'll bet it's that DevinKurant guy lol. Dude has posted almost 1000 times in like 3 months with no transactions and of course no ebay attached to his account. Oh and don't forget the generic a$$ username

He sure does have a lot to say :coffee:

Then prove it or shut up about it. You don't like me, go ahead and show what PBM I am. This is my first and only account, so go ahead and waste your time. There are alot of people with alot to say here. I didn't link my ebay because it wasn't necessary and I don't typically buy and sell much online. I tend to keep a fairly low key online presence, period. If I do a deal with someone they will know who I am, if not it's really not necessary for anyone. I've done nothing here besides be around for 3 months to be called a PBM, but you won't shut up about it because you don't like me. Want to discuss more, feel free to PM me. Otherwise drop it.

[jcardstore]

Then prove it or shut up about it. You don't like me, go ahead and show what PBM I am. This is my first and only account, so go ahead and waste your time. There are alot of people with alot to say here. I didn't link my ebay because it wasn't necessary and I don't typically buy and sell much online. I tend to keep a fairly low key online presence, period. If I do a deal with someone they will know who I am, if not it's really not necessary for anyone. I've done nothing here besides be around for 3 months to be called a PBM, but you won't shut up about it because you don't like me. Want to discuss more, feel free to PM me. Otherwise drop it.

Yikes, someone is all in their feelings about being called out. Touched a sensitive spot did I?

You do realize that all of this just screams PBM, right?

[JeremyNick]

Yikes, someone is all in their feelings about being called out. Touched a sensitive spot did I?

You do realize that all of this just screams PBM, right?

It's called a self-fulfilling prophecy. You keep saying it until I respond and then say the response says I'm a PBM.
Go ahead, dig and prove the impossible. Or just give it up and admit it's just a poor attempt at a personal attack.
Or do what I said and carry this on via PM, I'd be more than happy to supply any information you are dying to know.

[jcardstore]

It's called a self-fulfilling prophecy. You keep saying it until I respond and then say the response says I'm a PBM.
Go ahead, dig and prove the impossible. Or just give it up and admit it's just a poor attempt at a personal attack.
Or do what I said and carry this on via PM, I'd be more than happy to supply any information you are dying to know.

Did I even call you a PBM before? I don't think I have :cry:

If you're not a PBM you fit in well with the rest of the clowns on here

[JeremyNick]

Did I even call you a PBM before? I don't think I have :cry:

If you're not a PBM you fit in well with the rest of the clowns on here
Twice today and I called you out on it. And I don’t see any PM waiting for me, so as I assumed, you’re just all talk.

[Whodatiz]

Did I even call you a PBM before? I don't think I have :cry:

If you're not a PBM you fit in well with the rest of the clowns on here

Hey Boo, I believe I found SirTommyWinsAlot replacement for biggest tool on the board.

[jcardstore]

Hey Boo, I believe I found SirTommyWinsAlot replacement for biggest tool on the board.

Cdizzle is back at it again! The entire clown car is almost here. We just need Boo and it's a party

[Whodatiz]

Cdizzle is back at it again! The entire clown car is almost here. We just need Boo and it's a party

Got damn right I am. It's good to have you back though. The board needed it's antagonist for the season.

Thanks for volunteering.

[jcardstore]

Got damn right I am. It's good to have you back though. The board needed it's antagonist for the season.

Thanks for volunteering.

Back? I was never gone? Well I guess I wasn't here in the offseason because I couldn't care less about football unless it's about the Browns. Come on over to the BBall season if you want to talk about a real sport :coffee:

[Whodatiz]

Back? I was never gone? Well I guess I wasn't here in the offseason because I couldn't care less about football unless it's about the Browns. Come on over to the BBall season if you want to talk about a real sport :coffee:

https://media0.giphy.com/media/lszAB3TzFtRaU/giphy.gif

[jbrown36836]

Come on over to the BBall season if you want to talk about a real sport :coffee:

hahahahaha shooty hoops is an athletic competition.

Very good athletes play that game, I will agree.

However, when acting like Mike Tyson just hit you in the face with a 12 punch combo when you actually were just grazed on the wrist is part of the game, it's not a real sport.

GO BROWNS!!!

[Siberian13]

Bump it up for Ol' TWard

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28081034/antonio-callaway-appealing-second-drug-suspension-waived-browns

[rman112]

"Crap (again)..."

- hostilecarrot

[Siberian13]

Hey, he made the roster in Tampa. Things are looking up!

[SleeperCards]

Hey, he made the roster in Tampa. Things are looking up!

Catching passes from Aaron "I'M STILL HERE" Murray. I'm going to be rich.

[Siberian13]

Catching passes from Aaron "I'M STILL HERE" Murray. I'm going to be rich.

Can’t wait to sell my Nike 1/1 Patch of the other less talented Murray brother

[altaeria]

Hey, he made the roster in Tampa. Things are looking up!

On January 30, 2020 Twitter reports that
Callaway was carted off the practice field with a leg injury.

:(

[49erRCCollector]

On January 30, 2020 Twitter reports that
Callaway was carted off the practice field with a leg injury.

:(

It is unfortunate to watch people squander their opportunities/abilities. Add in an injury and no good will in the community...