Chad Kelly will be best QB in 2017 draft

[kingsjason55]

First off I have been wrong before but my gut says this dude has always been real deal. Its in his blood and things like off field antics are over. He is more focused than ever and I truly believe he will win Broncos a ring within next 5 years.

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[TheFrenzy]

Big if true.

[sigmachi]

in a draft class with Watson, Mahomes and Trubisky that's a pretty bold statement.

[ILOVEBEER]

Wow, all that from one preseason game at third string!

[Siberian13]

Wow, all that from one preseason game at third string!

To be fair, kingsjason55 has been talking up Chad Kelly for a while now. So he isn't jumping on a bandwagon.


But yes it was only one preseason game. He did look better than Paxton and should grab the backup spot at this point. Still a lot of preseason to go.

[bedler]

in a draft class with Watson, Mahomes and Trubisky that's a pretty bold statement.Ummmm yeah with watson, mahomes & trubisky in the class the best option for Kelly will be 4th...

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[kingsjason55]

Ummmm yeah with watson, mahomes & trubisky in the class the best option for Kelly will be 4th...

Sent from my SM-G930T using TapatalkKelly played against the best teams in college and beat them. He isn't afraid and remember he was Clemsons QB before Watson. His off field antics got him kicked off the program.

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[kingsjason55]

To be fair, kingsjason55 has been talking up Chad Kelly for a while now. So he isn't jumping on a bandwagon.


But yes it was only one preseason game. He did look better than Paxton and should grab the backup spot at this point. Still a lot of preseason to go.Thanks

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[bedler]

Kelly played against the best teams in college and beat them. He isn't afraid and remember he was Clemsons QB before Watson. His off field antics got him kicked off the program.

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Yeah I totally hear ya man... I'm not saying he can't be great obviously he has the blood lines and some grit but if he stayed at Clemson instead of Watson Bama would've prob destroyed them both yrs in the championship imo... Watson was just on another level.. Nobody has ever done that to Alabama in their history and he done it twice.

Im a LSU fan myself so the SEC is all I watch and when Kelly didn't win he always had a bad attitude which is why I never really pulled for the dude.. Hopefully he grew up a Lil since college..

He definitely don't have much competition in Denver so that would be good if he can win the job... I'm just saying compared to those other 3... I mean watson obviously needs to stay healthy but he came into the NFL doing the same things he did to Bama... I just don't see that with any of the other 2017 qb class but hey I've chosen the wrong QBs a handful of times... (mcgloin, mannion, hundley, griffin [emoji23][emoji23])..

I hope he becomes a star for you man and makes his uncle proud

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[gorillaz]

Kyle Sloter is better looking than Chad Kelly. Past two preseasons he’s looked better.

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[Scottish Punk]

Ummmm yeah with watson, mahomes & trubisky in the class the best option for Kelly will be 4th...

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waay to early on any of these guys.

[bedler]

Kyle Sloter is better looking than Chad Kelly. Past two preseasons he’s looked better.

/threadI do like sloter but he's so tiny... I think an eagle can swoop down and carry him away

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[ILOVEBEER]

Kyle Sloter is better looking than Chad Kelly. Past two preseasons he’s looked better.

/thread

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1146089&highlight=Sloter

Sloter....ROY 2017

[patchgenie]

dream team:
QB: Chad Kelly
RB: Roc Thomas
WR: Geramy Davis

i'm a chad fan though and have one of his autos. should be 2nd string at least though.

[IowaCubs1]

You and Chad kelly. He sucks.

[kingsjason55]

You and Chad kelly. He sucks.Why did Chad Kelly beat Maholmes out on ESPN skill challenge with a messed up wrist?
https://youtu.be/hAFFfhpLvL4

Sloter??? Yeah no thanks. He can't read a playbook to save his life nor has great accuracy.

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[Siberian13]

FOMO - I bought a $2 Kelly card :)

[TheFrenzy]

I hope Kelly becomes a HOF QB if for no other reason than the fact that the two photos Panini chose to use on all his rookie cards make him look like he has a beer gut and just stepped off the set of Eastbound and Down.

[kingsjason55]

FOMO - I bought a $2 Kelly card :)LOL but it many will find out they didnt make many especially in high quality NFL RCs. Didn't have select nor any rookie jersey cards. All are sticker unless its collegiate cards which I still collect in NT and some Leaf.

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[kingsjason55]

I hope Kelly becomes a HOF QB if for no other reason than the fact that the two photos Panini chose to use on all his rookie cards make him look like he has a beer gut and just stepped off the set of Eastbound and Down.LOL he was fat in rookie year. He had knee and wrist injury. You are correct though on that.

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[TheFrenzy]

FOMO - I bought a $2 Kelly card :)

I did you one better: just picked up a purple and orange Optic refractor because I thought they looked cool as Broncos team colors.

[majestik101]

Wow, all that from one preseason game at third string!


Paxton Lynch will be best QB in 2016 draft :)

[Siberian13]

LOL but it many will find out they didnt make many especially in high quality NFL RCs. Didn't have select nor any rookie jersey cards. All are sticker unless its collegiate cards which I still collect in NT and some Leaf.

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I did you one better: just picked up a purple and orange Optic refractor because I thought they looked cool as Broncos team colors.

I got the purple Optic /50 non-auto refractor. Thought it looked nice and for $2, who cares.

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[Siberian13]

His contenders autos are around $100 and NT is $125 plus. They hype is funny

[majestik101]

His contenders autos are around $100 and NT is $125 plus. They hype is funny


The same cards of Trevor Siemien were about that, heck I'm sure Brock Osweiler was in the same ballpark.

Those Broncos fans and their QB's. Every QB to them is the next John Elway. It's hilarious.

[sigmachi]

Hot take: Deshaun Watson will throw for more TD's in the first game of the year than Chad Kelly will his entire career. If you don't agree with that then fight me

[Siberian13]

The same cards of Trevor Siemien were about that, heck I'm sure Brock Osweiler was in the same ballpark.

Those Broncos fans and their QB's. Every QB to them is the next John Elway. It's hilarious.

Well maybe my few bucks turns into gold!

[MeteoriteGuy]

I think OP means in the draft....compared to on the field.

[Siberian13]

Hot take: Deshaun Watson will throw for more TD's in the first game of the year than Chad Kelly will his entire career. If you don't agree with that then fight me

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[whynotme012]

Only one pre season game....give it some time for Chad to provide it like he did in college.....He wont be Mr. Irreivalant that's for sure!

Wish he the best.

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[TheFrenzy]

Relevant: $wag Kelly (https://twitter.com/swagkelly10?lang=en)

[coltsnsox07]

I remember eagerly waiting for Week 1 back in Peyton Manning's rookie season, right before kickoff when they kept talking about Peyton and Leaf's first pro game, Boomer Esiason said forget best week 1, the best career would be neither, it would be Brian Griese!
Hey, Griese won a Super Bowl ring his rookie year watching Elway beat the Packers....

[twisty571]

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Kaaya is the answer...
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[Longshot18]

The guy with Leaf pictures as his logo says Kelly is the greatest. You literally can't make this up.

[kingsjason55]

The guy with Leaf pictures as his logo says Kelly is the greatest. You literally can't make this up.That's the point because people on this page are a joke. Comparing Brock and Paxton to Chad LOL. Both of those two have weak personality traits and if anyone knows Chad he has type alpha along with confidence. He will throw the ball regardless what happened on previous plays like great quarterbacks do.

I got $100 dollars Chad throws more TDs in his career than what Watson does in 1st game. Bet?

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[DMACcollector]

That's the point because people on this page are a joke. Comparing Brock and Paxton to Chad LOL. Both of those two have weak personality traits and if anyone knows Chad he has type alpha along with confidence. He will throw the ball regardless what happened on previous plays like great quarterbacks do.

I got $100 dollars Chad throws more TDs in his career than what Watson does in 1st game. Bet?

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Are you Chad Kelly?

[kingsjason55]

Are you Chad Kelly?Are you Santa Clause?

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[TheFrenzy]

The only way I could possibly be more hyped for Kelly is if he got traded to Cleveland. (https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1195054&page=5)

[DMACcollector]

Are you Santa Clause?

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I’m Markinson.

[duwal]

That's the point because people on this page are a joke. Comparing Brock and Paxton to Chad LOL. Both of those two have weak personality traits and if anyone knows Chad he has type alpha along with confidence. He will throw the ball regardless what happened on previous plays like great quarterbacks do.



It's almost like you don't even realize you're describing him the same as others described Manziel. Beat all of the great college teams he faced, type alpha personality, lots of confidence, short memory on bad plays he previously made....

[TheFrenzy]

"Out on the practice field first at #Broncos HQ is QB Chad Kelly @1043TheFan" - Twitter (https://mobile.twitter.com/CecilLammey/status/1029103296575811584)

Stolen from Reddit: "...consider his journey: he's this highly touted talent with a HOF pedigree, and yet by all accounts he's a complete shithead. His draft stock absolutely plummets, and he's drafted literally last. On top of that, he has an injury that keeps him from even taking meaningful practice reps. He's basically a camp body.

But he works. He keeps his head down. He is humbled, and in the process matures. He starts the year behind a big time free agent and a first round draft pick. But he keeps working—first guy in, last guy to leave. And he finally gets to play on a real football field, for the first time in 646 days, and aside from a couple of small mistakes, he balls out. The crowd at Mile High is chanting his name. And now he has his shot.

I mean come on, how can you not root for the guy?"

[kingsjason55]

"Out on the practice field first at #Broncos HQ is QB Chad Kelly @1043TheFan" - Twitter (https://mobile.twitter.com/CecilLammey/status/1029103296575811584)

Stolen from Reddit: "...consider his journey: he's this highly touted talent with a HOF pedigree, and yet by all accounts he's a complete shithead. His draft stock absolutely plummets, and he's drafted literally last. On top of that, he has an injury that keeps him from even taking meaningful practice reps. He's basically a camp body.

But he works. He keeps his head down. He is humbled, and in the process matures. He starts the year behind a big time free agent and a first round draft pick. But he keeps working—first guy in, last guy to leave. And he finally gets to play on a real football field, for the first time in 646 days, and aside from a couple of small mistakes, he balls out. The crowd at Mile High is chanting his name. And now he has his shot.

I mean come on, how can you not root for the guy?"Because they hate everyone except Brady here.

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[HBMC]

Because they hate everyone except Brady here.

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Try being a fan of Tony Romo.

Quit whining.

[DMACcollector]

Because they hate everyone except Brady here.

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Look, no one is hating on Chad Kelly. You made a bold statement about a guy that’s facing some long odds of being even a starter in the league. Did you really expect everyone to agree with your opinion/prediction? You’re hyping the guy like you’re his PR rep. How about we let his play speak for itself. Time will tell if you’re right or wrong.

[kingsjason55]

Try being a fan of Tony Romo.

Quit whining.That's brutal but do like his commentary on games.

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[CC71]

Chad Kelly will be best QB in 2017 draft that will never start a single game in the NFL

[indyguy]

Hot take: Deshaun Watson will throw for more TD's in the first game of the year than Chad Kelly will his entire career. If you don't agree with that then fight me

Just meet me in Temecula

https://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2014/12/26/7449927/snottiedrippin-temecula-christmas-twitter-fight-kobe-bryant

[TheFrenzy]

Threads like these are why I visit BO.

I'm rooting for the "Beer League Bonehead" to take the league by storm.

[ILOVEBEER]

Broncos apparently looking for a veteran QB. Kelly hasn't played a real game in quite some time so, yeah he'll be waiting

Elway unsure of backup, but won't be Kaepernick - https://www.thedenverchannel.com/sports/broncos/broncos-john-elway-wants-fast-starts-better-offense-but-no-kaepernick

Oh, it definitely won't be Krapernick. I like John's honesty about him.

[Mrpokey]

I hope Chad Kelly does well since I have his Elite Gold Rc /10

[Yunked]

His contenders autos are around $100 and NT is $125 plus. They hype is funny

Shsking my head

[TWard]

I hope Chad Kelly does well since I have his Elite Gold Rc /10


Sell sell sell sell

[majestik101]

Uncle Jim may not be around long enough to bail him out of trouble a second time

[ILOVEBEER]

Lets all look at Brock Osweiler for a second....

Okay, go back to buying Chad's cards.

[kingsjason55]

Lets all look at Brock Osweiler for a second....

Okay, go back to buying Chad's cards.Chad isn't Brock. Far from it

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[ILOVEBEER]

Chad isn't Brock. Far from it

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Well you should probably go and pull up some old Brock threads. You might be surprised. People thought he was the next big thing as well. I'd be glad to hear why Chad is better than Brock after just two preseason games and zero playing time last year.

[Siberian13]

Well you should probably go and pull up some old Brock threads. You might be surprised. People thought he was the next big thing as well. I'd be glad to hear why Chad is better than Brock after just two preseason games and zero playing time last year.

Brock and Lynch both looked scared on the field. Chad doesn't. That's what I see. Chad could be just as bad as them, who knows.

1st round pick, pick 26 and 2nd round pick, pick 57 = wasted picks so far
7th round, pick 253 = If he wins the backup job, that's a decent win

[jcardstore]

I always find these ridiculous hype threads to be hilarious. People will do anything to convince themselves (and others) that some bum is a good investment.

I would love to see actual financials for the "investors" on BO. Just to see really how much money people lose each year speculating on bums.

[Siberian13]

I always find these ridiculous hype threads to be hilarious. People will do anything to convince themselves (and others) that some bum is a good investment.

I would love to see actual financials for the "investors" on BO. Just to see really how much money people lose each year speculating on bums.

I got $2 into him :) I'm going big.

[Boo]

I got $2 into him :) I'm going big.

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[Siberian13]

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[kingsjason55]

I always find these ridiculous hype threads to be hilarious. People will do anything to convince themselves (and others) that some bum is a good investment.

I would love to see actual financials for the "investors" on BO. Just to see really how much money people lose each year speculating on bums.But meanwhile people spend loads of money on people like Mahomes or Trubisky saying he is great [emoji849]. What Kelly brings is leadership with confidence and has the accuracy with a strong arm. He has proven he is a changed person off the field since its been what 4 years since last incident? Haters are going to hate.

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[jrg1128]

I've been on the Chad Kelly bandwagon ever since he got drafted, and I'm an Alabama fan. Kid cost pennies for a year, and he's fearless and has a cannon. He may not ever amount to anything but he's got just as good of a shot as anyone else. Plus he's the type of guy that if you tell him he can't, he will do whatever he can to prove you wrong. He's not soft like a lot of other guys.

And to the guy talking about seeing peoples financials and how much money they lose on scrubs...if I pay $5 for a Chad Kelly auto and he doesn't pan out this year, that card is still gonna be worth $3-$5. Reward is much higher than risk with guys like Chad Kelly (as long as you get in before the hype). It's a much better investment than someone like Mahomes or Trubisky.

[jcardstore]

But meanwhile people spend loads of money on people like Mahomes or Trubisky saying he is great [emoji849]. What Kelly brings is leadership with confidence and has the accuracy with a strong arm. He has proven he is a changed person off the field since its been what 4 years since last incident? Haters are going to hate.

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Have fun wasting your money on a guy whos ceiling is being a decent career backup.

You should really put this thread on your resume and apply to be an NFL scout cause you sure do know how to evaluate talent! lol

[jcardstore]

I've been on the Chad Kelly bandwagon ever since he got drafted, and I'm an Alabama fan. Kid cost pennies for a year, and he's fearless and has a cannon. He may not ever amount to anything but he's got just as good of a shot as anyone else. Plus he's the type of guy that if you tell him he can't, he will do whatever he can to prove you wrong. He's not soft like a lot of other guys.

And to the guy talking about seeing peoples financials and how much money they lose on scrubs...if I pay $5 for a Chad Kelly auto and he doesn't pan out this year, that card is still gonna be worth $3-$5. Reward is much higher than risk with guys like Chad Kelly (as long as you get in before the hype). It's a much better investment than someone like Mahomes or Trubisky.

This is exactly why I would love to see someone run some actual financials because this is so far from the truth.

All his auto's will be in the $0.50 box in a year if you're lucky. Unless you sell at peak hype there is no chance that you'll make money.

Everybody loves to think they're smarter than scouts and buy up guys because their cards are cheap hoping to hit it big when 99% of those end up turning into losses.

Seriously, go back and look at Brock Osweiler threads and what his cards were selling for and compare them to now. It's literally the exact same thing

[jrg1128]

This is exactly why I would love to see someone run some actual financials because this is so far from the truth.

All his auto's will be in the $0.50 box in a year if you're lucky. Unless you sell at peak hype there is no chance that you'll make money.

Everybody loves to think they're smarter than scouts and buy up guys because their cards are cheap hoping to hit it big when 99% of those end up turning into losses.

Seriously, go back and look at Brock Osweiler threads and what his cards were selling for and compare them to now. It's literally the exact same thing

If Chad Kelly doesn't get a start this year and you sell the card next year then you will still get $3-$5. They only way it's a $0.50 card is if he plays and is awful. But then again, Nathan Peterman cards aren't $0.50.

You have time to re-coup your investment, you just have to know when to sell.

[Siberian13]

This is exactly why I would love to see someone run some actual financials because this is so far from the truth.

All his auto's will be in the $0.50 box in a year if you're lucky. Unless you sell at peak hype there is no chance that you'll make money.

Everybody loves to think they're smarter than scouts and buy up guys because their cards are cheap hoping to hit it big when 99% of those end up turning into losses.

Seriously, go back and look at Brock Osweiler threads and what his cards were selling for and compare them to now. It's literally the exact same thing

The scouts thought Brock and Paxton would be ok, right? :)

[SleeperCards]

This is exactly why I would love to see someone run some actual financials because this is so far from the truth.

All his auto's will be in the $0.50 box in a year if you're lucky. Unless you sell at peak hype there is no chance that you'll make money.

Everybody loves to think they're smarter than scouts and buy up guys because their cards are cheap hoping to hit it big when 99% of those end up turning into losses.

Seriously, go back and look at Brock Osweiler threads and what his cards were selling for and compare them to now. It's literally the exact same thing

It only takes one big hit to cover all the losses. Trust me, you're wrong on this one. Sure there are people that lose money, but not everyone does. You just need to know what you're doing and have a bit of luck as well.

[twisty571]

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I got $8 into him:(
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[Siberian13]

I got $8 into him:(
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[Boo]

This is exactly why I would love to see someone run some actual financials because this is so far from the truth.

All his auto's will be in the $0.50 box in a year if you're lucky. Unless you sell at peak hype there is no chance that you'll make money.

Everybody loves to think they're smarter than scouts and buy up guys because their cards are cheap hoping to hit it big when 99% of those end up turning into losses.

Seriously, go back and look at Brock Osweiler threads and what his cards were selling for and compare them to now. It's literally the exact same thing

BO is paying $1/auto or GU card...:coffee::coffee:

[TheFrenzy]

Any late-round/undrafted/backup QB with a legitimately high ceiling that you can pick up for pennies is just about the best "investment" you can make in the football hobby.

All the high picks come into the league at basically peak prices such that they would have to win a Super Bowl just to have a shot at maintaining their rookie year prices over the long haul.

Plus it's just fun to hype up a QB who looks like he belongs on the set of Eastbound and Down.

[Siberian13]

I got $8 into him:(


I think I actually have $10 into him. I have 2 or 3 cards but why not. Splurge a little

[jcardstore]

It only takes one big hit to cover all the losses. Trust me, you're wrong on this one. Sure there are people that lose money, but not everyone does. You just need to know what you're doing and have a bit of luck as well.

After taxes, fees, shipping, I guarantee people are not making money like you think they are. Which is why I said I'd love to see an accountant run the numbers.

The only reason it seems like everybody is making all this money is because people only share their successes. So the 1 player they made money on is all well and great but they won't tell you the other 9 that flopped.

You know the 1% of people who actually make money are? The guys who buy a ton of stuff and then create pointless hype threads like this one to get all the suckers to buy in as they're unloading all their junk on them.

[TheFrenzy]

Bleacher Report - Monday Morning Digest (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2791151-monday-morning-digest-preseason-stocks-rising-and-falling#slide1)

Stock rising: Chad Kelly

The Broncos have found their backup quarterback. Or maybe their starter? Kelly was sharp, while Case Keenum looked like a rickety journeyman (imagine that) and Paxton Lynch is just waiting for Emperor Elway to give the Thumbs Down signal.

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[twisty571]

I think I actually have $10 into him. I have 2 or 3 cards but why not. Splurge a little

Yeah I was looking for his Prizm Green Scope but the only 1 on is a little high considering the Ice I got was #'d lower& cheaper :)

[kingsjason55]

I've been on the Chad Kelly bandwagon ever since he got drafted, and I'm an Alabama fan. Kid cost pennies for a year, and he's fearless and has a cannon. He may not ever amount to anything but he's got just as good of a shot as anyone else. Plus he's the type of guy that if you tell him he can't, he will do whatever he can to prove you wrong. He's not soft like a lot of other guys.

And to the guy talking about seeing peoples financials and how much money they lose on scrubs...if I pay $5 for a Chad Kelly auto and he doesn't pan out this year, that card is still gonna be worth $3-$5. Reward is much higher than risk with guys like Chad Kelly (as long as you get in before the hype). It's a much better investment than someone like Mahomes or Trubisky.Meanwhile people spending 1000.00 on Trubisky cards hoping to break even if he makes the playoffs. Chad isn't Brock nor Paxton and you are 100% correct he is the type that proves people wrong. Being picked last has only fueled it by proving all wrong. He turned his life around and is working hard. I have followed him since Clemson days.

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[kingsjason55]

Yeah I was looking for his Prizm Green Scope but the only 1 on is a little high considering the Ice I got was #'d lower& cheaper :)Good buy the one that went on Saturday?

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[starfox]

Ok. Let me chime in: I pulled an on-card Kelly, and bought a sticker auto. I'm out of about $26. You buy low and sell high. Everyone (well, I think everyone) knows this. If he does well, I win. Again: if he does well, the doubters will get in at a higher price. I like when doubters have to pay too much.

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[Siberian13]

Yeah I was looking for his Prizm Green Scope but the only 1 on is a little high considering the Ice I got was #'d lower& cheaper :)

The auto or non-auto version?

[starfox]

In fact, let's turn this into a show off your Chad Kelly cards thread. I'll start it off:https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180820/b3af9da02cdfd79c7870e45301f64080.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180820/2153ff44cc6fdc97060c681132f3f6b0.jpg

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[SleeperCards]

After taxes, fees, shipping, I guarantee people are not making money like you think they are. Which is why I said I'd love to see an accountant run the numbers.

The only reason it seems like everybody is making all this money is because people only share their successes. So the 1 player they made money on is all well and great but they won't tell you the other 9 that flopped.

You know the 1% of people who actually make money are? The guys who buy a ton of stuff and then create pointless hype threads like this one to get all the suckers to buy in as they're unloading all their junk on them.

I can only speak from my experience, you are saying people can't/aren't making money selling QBs like Chad Kelly, and I am telling you that you are wrong. I'll give you an example, in 2014 I invested in two QBs: Aaron Murray and Jimmy Garoppolo, I did my research and settled on those two guy as the ones I thought I'd have the best chance to have an increase in future value. The boom from Garoppolo far outweighed the bust on Murray. Like I said you need a bit of luck, just like with any of these card purchases.

I've made money on guys like Jon Kitna, Rob Johnson, Billy Volek, Clint Stoerner, Trevor Siemian, etc. In 2000 my main guy was Chris Redman, but I was also picking up Tom Brady & Tim Rattay. The fact that you keep insisting everyone is losing money means you probably don't have a firm grasp on how this works.

[jrg1128]

I can only speak from my experience, you are saying people can't/aren't making money selling QBs like Chad Kelly, and I am telling you that you are wrong. I'll give you an example, in 2014 I invested in two QBs: Aaron Murray and Jimmy Garoppolo, I did my research and settled on those two guy as the ones I thought I'd have the best chance to have an increase in future value. The boom from Garoppolo far outweighed the bust on Murray. Like I said you need a bit of luck, just like with any of these card purchases.

I've made money on guys like Jon Kitna, Rob Johnson, Billy Volek, Clint Stoerner, Trevor Siemian, etc. In 2000 my main guy was Chris Redman, but I was also picking up Tom Brady & Tim Rattay. The fact that you keep insisting everyone is losing money means you probably don't have a firm grasp on how this works.

This, exactly this.

[ILOVEBEER]

Brock and Lynch both looked scared on the field. Chad doesn't. That's what I see. Chad could be just as bad as them, who knows.

1st round pick, pick 26 and 2nd round pick, pick 57 = wasted picks so far
7th round, pick 253 = If he wins the backup job, that's a decent win

Chad doesn't? After two preseason games playing against 2nd and 3rd string guys?

Soooo many people were up Brock's butt. People were spending big time when he got drafted. He won several games when Manning was hurt during the last Super Bowl win. People thought Trevor Semian was the next Tom Brady and last year Kyle Sloter was going to be ROY.

Invest in whoever you want, to say this guy will win a Championship based off of two preseason games is ridiculous.

[huskerman47]

Only have three autos of him but they’re pretty nice. I don’t have pictures but they are the prizm FOTL parallel /20, a certified gold auto /25, and I’m not 100% sure on the third but I believe it is a prizm pink parallel auto. I’ll probably end up holding on to these too long

[jcardstore]

I can only speak from my experience, you are saying people can't/aren't making money selling QBs like Chad Kelly, and I am telling you that you are wrong. I'll give you an example, in 2014 I invested in two QBs: Aaron Murray and Jimmy Garoppolo, I did my research and settled on those two guy as the ones I thought I'd have the best chance to have an increase in future value. The boom from Garoppolo far outweighed the bust on Murray. Like I said you need a bit of luck, just like with any of these card purchases.

I've made money on guys like Jon Kitna, Rob Johnson, Billy Volek, Clint Stoerner, Trevor Siemian, etc. In 2000 my main guy was Chris Redman, but I was also picking up Tom Brady & Tim Rattay. The fact that you keep insisting everyone is losing money means you probably don't have a firm grasp on how this works.

You’re just furthering my point. Everybody has their anecdote about the guys they “make money” on even though it’s not as simple as you’re trying to make it seem. Just because you see more dollars than you did yesterday doesn’t mean you’ve actually made any money at all. Also, nobody ever wants to share all the guys they lost money on.

People don’t think about the 25% you pay in taxes or the eBay final valu fees and PayPal’s payment processing fees and the shipping fees etc etc... so while many people may think they’ve made money, in reality only a very small percent actually do.

[Siberian13]

Chad doesn't? After two preseason games playing against 2nd and 3rd string guys?

Soooo many people were up Brock's butt. People were spending big time when he got drafted. He won several games when Manning was hurt during the last Super Bowl win. People thought Trevor Semian was the next Tom Brady and last year Kyle Sloter was going to be ROY.

Invest in whoever you want, to say this guy will win a Championship based off of two preseason games is ridiculous.

Good thing I've done nothing you just said. Championship?

How long did it take for those Brock cards to fall to $.50 per auto? :)

Brock - No thanks, have zero cards
Semian - No thanks, have zero cards
Sloter - No thanks, have zero cards

$10 for 3 cards of a 7th round guy - Why not? :)

[Siberian13]

People don’t think about the 25% you pay in taxes or the eBay final valu fees and PayPal’s payment processing fees and the shipping fees etc etc... so while many people may think they’ve made money, in reality only a very small percent actually do.

Question for you accountants since I don't actually sell anything. If you spend $10 on Kelly cards and sell them for $20, do you get taxed on $20 or the $10 profit?

[ILOVEBEER]

Good thing I've done nothing you just said. Championship?

How long did it take for those Brock cards to fall to $.50 per auto? :)

Brock - No thanks, have zero cards
Semian - No thanks, have zero cards
Sloter - No thanks, have zero cards

$10 for 3 cards of a 7th round guy - Why not? :)

You didn't mention championship but it was mentioned by kingsjason55.

[twisty571]

Good buy the one that went on Saturday?

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Yep :)

[jcardstore]

Good thing I've done nothing you just said. Championship?

How long did it take for those Brock cards to fall to $.50 per auto? :)

Brock - No thanks, have zero cards
Semian - No thanks, have zero cards
Sloter - No thanks, have zero cards

$10 for 3 cards of a 7th round guy - Why not? :)

If you want to buy the cards because you like the guy? Cool.

If you like to speculate and want to invest, even though I think sports cards are the worst possible investment, that's cool too.

We all know what the point of this thread was. The OP just wants to hype him up and pump up the prices so he can make more money.

[twisty571]

The auto or non-auto version?

Non auto.....I like picking up 2017 Prizm Green Scope rookies but I cheaped out and didn't pay the $13-14 for the green scope since I saw the Ice for $8.
If anyone has a non auto Green Scope #/99 I will trade you straight up for the Ice #/75 :)

[Zauron]

Question for you accountants since I don't actually sell anything. If you spend $10 on Kelly cards and sell them for $20, do you get taxed on $20 or the $10 profit?

You would only need to report anything if you sold a rather large amount, dollar wise.

And in this case, if it's treated like a business, the $10 as long as you indicate the expenses of the initial $10

[jcardstore]

You would only need to report anything if you sold a rather large amount, dollar wise.

And in this case, if it's treated like a business, the $10 as long as you indicate the expenses of the initial $10

This is quite possibly the biggest myth on this board and couldn't be more wrong. I suspect many people here would be in big trouble in the case they got audited

Legally, you have to report everything you sell.

[SleeperCards]

You’re just furthering my point. Everybody has their anecdote about the guys they “make money” on even though it’s not as simple as you’re trying to make it seem. Just because you see more dollars than you did yesterday doesn’t mean you’ve actually made any money at all. Also, nobody ever wants to share all the guys they lost money on.

People don’t think about the 25% you pay in taxes or the eBay final valu fees and PayPal’s payment processing fees and the shipping fees etc etc... so while many people may think they’ve made money, in reality only a very small percent actually do.


It IS as simple as I make it seem, basic math isn't a real challenge for most people.

[kingsjason55]

Yep :)Congrats I watched that one go was like someone stole that.

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[twisty571]

Congrats I watched that one go was like someone stole that.

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There was a Spectra RC /99 on for $0.99 plus cheap shipping, right after I hit the BIN on the Ice I was going to snatch it but someone else hit it.

[jcardstore]

It IS as simple as I make it seem, basic math isn't a real challenge for most people.

So then let me see your YoY breakdown... Oh, you don't have it? So then how do you know if you've made money?

You're just guessing and I'd be willing to bet you have no clue what the actual numbers look like

[SleeperCards]

Non auto.....I like picking up 2017 Prizm Green Scope rookies but I cheaped out and didn't pay the $13-14 for the green scope since I saw the Ice for $8.
If anyone has a non auto Green Scope #/99 I will trade you straight up for the Ice #/75 :)

I was thinking about doing the rainbow since I have 2 of the tougher ones in the FOTL /6 and Retail Red, but don't think I'll pursue it now. I have a non-auto Green Scope, what's the Cracked look like?

[Siberian13]

Non auto.....I like picking up 2017 Prizm Green Scope rookies but I cheaped out and didn't pay the $13-14 for the green scope since I saw the Ice for $8.
If anyone has a non auto Green Scope #/99 I will trade you straight up for the Ice #/75 :)

I have one but I'm already in debt to you.

I've been looking for Lions in the boxes too. Hard to find

[jrg1128]

So then let me see your YoY breakdown... Oh, you don't have it? So then how do you know if you've made money?

You're just guessing and I'd be willing to bet you have no clue what the actual numbers look like

You are acting like everyone has 100 cards of 20 different guys that they invest in ever year. Some people invest in 3-5 guys at 10-20 cards each and it's easy to know if you made money or not.

[jcardstore]

You are acting like everyone has 100 cards of 20 different guys that they invest in ever year. Some people invest in 3-5 guys at 10-20 cards each and it's easy to know if you made money or not.

So do you have a running list of all cards you bought, what price you bought it at, what you sold them for, and then subtract taxes/fees?

[SleeperCards]

So then let me see your YoY breakdown... Oh, you don't have it? So then how do you know if you've made money?

You're just guessing and I'd be willing to bet you have no clue what the actual numbers look like

Yea, you totally got me! People should always disclose that kind of information on a public forum:rolleyes: I find your insistence that no one is making money on QB prospects absolutely baffling. And for your information I still have records of cards I purchased back in 2000. Shout out to the guy who sold me the Jerry Porter/Tom Brady SP Authentic Lot.

[twisty571]

So do you have a running list of all cards you bought, what price you bought it at, what you sold them for, and then subtract taxes/fees?
eBay has all that info for the past year or more I think. I know I can see my past purchases and sales on there.

[jcardstore]

eBay has all that info for the past year or more I think. I know I can see my past purchases and sales on their.

Yea of course but it's worthless if you don't use it.

[Siberian13]

I love the excitement that the NFL season and a backup QB brings to the forum! I'm ready for this season!

[twisty571]

Yea of course but it's worthless if you don't use it.

I use to be a power seller back in the early 2000's but mainly use it for buying now. I may sell a card or 3 a year now on there.

[jcardstore]

Yea, you totally got me! People should always disclose that kind of information on a public forum:rolleyes: I find your insistence that no one is making money on QB prospects absolutely baffling. And for your information I still have records of cards I purchased back in 2000. Shout out to the guy who sold me the Jerry Porter/Tom Brady SP Authentic Lot.

IF that's even true you're part of an extremely small percentage of people who keep track.

I never said no one is making money, you're taking my words and purposely twisting them to suit your position. I said the majority of people are losing money. The only ones who make money are people who either A) buy in super early or B) shamelessly hype the player like the OP

[SleeperCards]

IF that's even true you're part of an extremely small percentage of people who keep track.

I never said no one is making money, you're taking my words and purposely twisting them to suit your position. I said the majority of people are losing money. The only ones who make money are people who either A) buy in super early or B) shamelessly hype the player like the OP

Actually what you said was that unless you sell at peak hype, there is no way you'd make money, which again, is untrue.

Direct quote:


All his auto's will be in the $0.50 box in a year if you're lucky. Unless you sell at peak hype there is no chance that you'll make money.

Everybody loves to think they're smarter than scouts and buy up guys because their cards are cheap hoping to hit it big when 99% of those end up turning into losses.



So say I hit on Chad Kelly, Brandon Allen, Brissett, and Sudfeld for +$1700 and missed on Joe Callahan, Cardale Jones, Geno Smith, Bryce Petty, Joe Budden, and Abe Sapien at -$600, did I lose money because I missed on a higher # of prospects?

[kingsjason55]

There was a Spectra RC /99 on for $0.99 plus cheap shipping, right after I hit the BIN on the Ice I was going to snatch it but someone else hit it.Dang yeah I was busy Saturday but his cards have been moving. Most people will realize not many were made and ones like cracked ice will be a premium once they realize it. Except college cards he did not have any on card sigs RCs just stickers or with patches. So his cracked ice is the one to get or optic contenders gold.

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[kingsjason55]

IF that's even true you're part of an extremely small percentage of people who keep track.

I never said no one is making money, you're taking my words and purposely twisting them to suit your position. I said the majority of people are losing money. The only ones who make money are people who either A) buy in super early or B) shamelessly hype the player like the OPShamelessly hype the player? Yeah I have been saying this about Chad since last year.

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[twisty571]

Dang yeah I was busy Saturday but his cards have been moving. Most people will realize not many were made and ones like cracked ice will be a premium once they realize it. Except college cards he did not have any on card sigs RCs just stickers or with patches. So his cracked ice is the one to get or optic contenders gold.

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Yes he is basically in the same boat as how they placed Kaaya. Kaaya did have on card in Optic Donruss & NFL Immaculate and I really like his College On Card like Flawless/NT/Immaculate/Contenders Ice's.

[ILOVEBEER]

If you want to buy the cards because you like the guy? Cool.

If you like to speculate and want to invest, even though I think sports cards are the worst possible investment, that's cool too.

We all know what the point of this thread was. The OP just wants to hype him up and pump up the prices so he can make more money.

Like in baseball when some random guy in AA hits a few homeruns, someone always creates a hype thread. Really? That's his job.

[kingsjason55]

Yes he is basically in the same boat as how they placed Kaaya. Kaaya did have on card in Optic Donruss & NFL Immaculate and I really like his College On Card like Flawless/NT/Immaculate/Contenders Ice's.Yep Kayaa only different had the optic donruss RRs on cards.

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[jcardstore]

Shamelessly hype the player? Yeah I have been saying this about Chad since last year.

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That's odd considering you weren't here last year... or were you :coffee::coffee::coffee::coffee::coffee::coffee::coffee::coffee:

[kingsjason55]

That's odd considering you weren't here last year... or were you :coffee::coffee::coffee::coffee::coffee::coffee::coffee::coffee:I started early on here but on FB posts been talking about Kelly. I have been buying Kelly cards since August of last year.

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[twisty571]

I have one but I'm already in debt to you.

I've been looking for Lions in the boxes too. Hard to find

Have what? A green scope Kelly to swap for the Ice? And no you are not in debt to me. That Ryan is right where it should be...in a Ryan collection:)!

[jcardstore]

I started early on here but on FB posts been talking about Kelly. I have been buying Kelly cards since August of last year.

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That's literally what I said. The formula for literally every single hype man is

1) Buy a bunch of cards for some obscure guy who is super cheap
2) In the offseason consistently hype him up to be some super star that he clearly won't be (see this thread)
3) Sell the cards to suckers based on the hype that you created
4) Profit

[jrg1128]

That's literally what I said. The formula for literally every single hype man is

1) Buy a bunch of cards for some obscure guy who is super cheap
2) In the offseason consistently hype him up to be some super star that he clearly won't be (see this thread)
3) Sell the cards to suckers based on the hype that you created
4) Profit

What makes you think he "clearly" won't be a super star? I watched enough of him, Trubisky, and Mahomes in college to make me think that Kelly would be better than both of them. He fell so far down because of off the field issues. I also thought Watson should be the #1 QB taken, and based on last season I was correct. I in no way think I can be an NFL scout and wouldn't even want to be. But scouts put too much emphasis on height, qb style, combine numbers, etc. rather than just watching the guys play. All the scouts want to find the next Tom Brady, but I doubt we will ever see that. What makes Mahomes and Trubisky a better QB than Kelly?

EDIT: And he doesn't need to become a superstar to make money on him.

[jcardstore]

What makes you think he "clearly" won't be a super star? I watched enough of him, Trubisky, and Mahomes in college to make me think that Kelly would be better than both of them. He fell so far down because of off the field issues. I also thought Watson should be the #1 QB taken, and based on last season I was correct. I in no way think I can be an NFL scout and wouldn't even want to be. But scouts put too much emphasis on height, qb style, combine numbers, etc. rather than just watching the guys play. All the scouts want to find the next Tom Brady, but I doubt we will ever see that. What makes Mahomes and Trubisky a better QB than Kelly?

EDIT: And he doesn't need to become a superstar to make money on him.

If he really was better than those guys he wouldn't have been the last player off the board.

Teams draft players with character concerns all the time

[jrg1128]

If he really was better than those guys he wouldn't have been the last player off the board.

Teams draft players with character concerns all the time

Besides Trubisky's anomoly of a sophomore year, you really can't tell a difference between the stats of Kelly, Trubisky, and Mahomes. Only difference is, Kelly did it against defenses that were twice as talented as any that Trubisky or Mahomes faced. So why were Trubisky and Mahomes drafted so much higher? Because of makeup. Kelly will prove them wrong, it's fine.

And you obviously didn't watch Chad Kelly play at all in college.

[jcardstore]

Besides Trubisky's anomoly of a sophomore year, you really can't tell a difference between the stats of Kelly, Trubisky, and Mahomes. Only difference is, Kelly did it against defenses that were twice as talented as any that Trubisky or Mahomes faced. So why were Trubisky and Mahomes drafted so much higher? Because of makeup. Kelly will prove them wrong, it's fine.

And you obviously didn't watch Chad Kelly play at all in college.

Give me a list of starting QBs who had successful careers that were drafted in the 6th or 7th round not named Tom Brady in the last 20 years.

Now when you have that list, divide it by the number of all the QBs drafted in that time and give me the percentage.

but please, keep buying the hype, it's not my money

[jrg1128]

Give me a list of starting QBs who had successful careers that were drafted in the 6th or 7th round not named Tom Brady in the last 20 years.

Now when you have that list, divide it by the number of all the QBs drafted in that time and give me the percentage.

but please, keep buying the hype, it's not my money

When is that last time a 6th or 7th round pick was a backup in his first full year and actually has a chance to come in and make an impact? When is the last time you could buy an auto of a 6th or 7th round QB pick for $2 and turn around and sell it for $20. Don't be mad cause you missed out, it will be ok.

Broncos obviously think he's got a chance, you seem to be one of the only people who doesn't.

EDIT: And when was the last time a 6th or 7th round QB performed at the same level or better against better defenses than 1st round picks?

[ILOVEBEER]

Just read Nate Peterman has a higher passer rating than Chad Kelly this preseason! Start the Peterman hype again....

[Siberian13]

Just read Nate Peterman has a higher passer rating than Chad Kelly this preseason! Start the Peterman hype again....

Any nice ones for $2 dlvd? I'm down :D

[jcardstore]

When is that last time a 6th or 7th round pick was a backup in his first full year and actually has a chance to come in and make an impact? When is the last time you could buy an auto of a 6th or 7th round QB pick for $2 and turn around and sell it for $20. Don't be mad cause you missed out, it will be ok.

Broncos obviously think he's got a chance, you seem to be one of the only people who doesn't.

EDIT: And when was the last time a 6th or 7th round QB performed at the same level or better against better defenses than 1st round picks?

You guys will do anything to overinflate talent to the point that it’s ridiculous.

I don’t need to, want to, or have the time to flip cards so I really didn’t miss out on anything. Have fun flipping :)!

[kingsjason55]

You guys will do anything to overinflate talent to the point that it’s ridiculous.

I don’t need to, want to, or have the time to flip cards so I really didn’t miss out on anything. Have fun flipping :)!Keep watching Chad will be a top QB in this league soon while people like Mahomes gets benched.

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[Samiamryan]

You guys will do anything to overinflate talent to the point that it’s ridiculous.

I don’t need to, want to, or have the time to flip cards so I really didn’t miss out on anything. Have fun flipping :)!

Did Chad sleep with your girl or something? What's your dog in this fight?

[starfox]

You guys will do anything to overinflate talent to the point that it’s ridiculous.

I don’t need to, want to, or have the time to flip cards so I really didn’t miss out on anything. Have fun flipping :)!But what if you end up missing out on Kelly (there's still time; you'd just have to pay a little more) and he ends up being a Pro Bowl quarterback with a couple playoff wins three years from now? Would it be no big deal? Would you stick to your guns and not care? Would you scramble for five or so of his mid - low-end cards, thus kicking out 65% - 85% more than you would today?

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[RandysHobby]

Can’t believe what his autos are selling for. Only had two and they sold for like 10 bucks. Still have about 30 prizm/optic colored stuff.

[rman112]

He will throw the ball regardless what happened on previous plays like great quarterbacks do.


Mettenberger?

[rman112]

So say I hit on Chad Kelly, Brandon Allen, Brissett, and Sudfeld for +$1700 and missed on Joe Callahan, Cardale Jones, Geno Smith, Bryce Petty, Joe Budden, and Abe Sapien at -$600, did I lose money because I missed on a higher # of prospects?

No offense, but the Budden an Sapien investments were losers from Day 1.

[jcardstore]

But what if you end up missing out on Kelly (there's still time; you'd just have to pay a little more) and he ends up being a Pro Bowl quarterback with a couple playoff wins three years from now? Would it be no big deal? Would you stick to your guns and not care? Would you scramble for five or so of his mid - low-end cards, thus kicking out 65% - 85% more than you would today?

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I have absolutely no desire or time to “invest” in sports cards. I don’t and won’t care whether he wins the Super Bowl or never plays a game. To answer your question, taking $100 and waiting a year just to get back $185 is not enticing to me considering it’s much more likely that the $100 will end up $25.

I’ll take that and put it into Microsoft stock instead.

I don’t care whether people make money or lose money because it’s not mine. I do care when people like OP create these threads to hype up bums so they can sucker people into buying them and make themselves money

[kingsjason55]

I have absolutely no desire or time to “invest” in sports cards. I don’t and won’t care whether he wins the Super Bowl or never plays a game. To answer your question, taking $100 and waiting a year just to get back $185 is not enticing to me considering it’s much more likely that the $100 will end up $25.

I’ll take that and put it into Microsoft stock instead.

I don’t care whether people make money or lose money because it’s not mine. I do care when people like OP create these threads to hype up bums so they can sucker people into buying them and make themselves moneyCongrats if you bought Microsoft at 87 a year ago and now at 107 vs a card at 100 and now 185 you lost. Both have fees to sell. Either one can go up and down so don't pretend Microsoft is sure bet. I day trade and if you said I play options and ETFs then different but higher risk.

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[twisty571]

I have absolutely no desire or time to “invest” in sports cards. I don’t and won’t care whether he wins the Super Bowl or never plays a game. To answer your question, taking $100 and waiting a year just to get back $185 is not enticing to me considering it’s much more likely that the $100 will end up $25.

I’ll take that and put it into Microsoft stock instead.

I don’t care whether people make money or lose money because it’s not mine. I do care when people like OP create these threads to hype up bums so they can sucker people into buying them and make themselves money

Ok is this your 1st trip over here to the FB boards? Especially at the beginning of the year with all the hot new QB's? Or when one starts to play well during the season? I do not know kingjason55 but he has been talking about Chad Kelly since he got on these boards, I remember from when we were in a friendly discussion before but I don't think he's selling Kelly's. I think he is buying? I agree most lose more money on cards than they make. But I am speaking of actual collector's. Flippers may make money. Prospecting in basketball or baseball are no different. In Football it's a lot quicker to find out if it was a good investment or not is the difference I guess. If the hobby isn't built around prospecting then you tell me why all these QB's who really haven't done anything sell for a lot more than veteran's rookie cards of players in the record books or HOF or on their way to having a solid career? I think people paying in the $1000 range for a QB RC before year 3-4 is nuts myself but it happens all the time!

[kingsjason55]

Ok is this your 1st trip over here to the FB boards? Especially at the beginning of the year with all the hot new QB's? Or when one starts to play well during the season? I do not know kingjason55 but he has been talking about Chad Kelly since he got on these boards, I remember from when we were in a friendly discussion before but I don't think he's selling Kelly's. I think he is buying? I agree most lose more money on cards than they make. But I am speaking of actual collector's. Flippers may make money. Prospecting in basketball or baseball are no different. In Football it's a lot quicker to find out if it was a good investment or not is the difference I guess. If the hobby isn't built around prospecting then you tell me why all these QB's who really haven't done anything sell for a lot more than veteran's rookie cards of players in the record books or HOF or on their way to having a solid career? I think people paying in the $1000 range for a QB RC before year 3-4 is nuts myself but it happens all the time!Thanks yep still buying. I bought one last week haven't sold one because I know what he is capable of.

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[TheFrenzy]

Chad Kelly's Career Arc:

From Mr. Irreverent...

...to Mr. Irrelevant...

...to Mr. Irresistible...

...to finally Mr. Irreplaceable and a HOF career.

It's so exciting to be able to get in on the ground floor of the next great sports story.

[TheFrenzy]

I just picked up a few more $2 Prizm cards.

I'm such a big balla supa playa.

[SleeperCards]

I just picked up a few more $2 Prizm cards.

I'm such a big balla supa playa.

I picked up his Prizm Red and FOTL Bronze in June, wish I would have just gone after the rainbow.

[sigmachi]

Wow so I go a week or so without reading this gem of a thread and now Mahomes is getting benched while Kelly is going to pro bowl with multiple playoff wins in 3 years? Does that about sum it up? Does reading that statement when somebody else writes it not make you realize how asinine it sounds?

[Siberian13]

Wow so I go a week or so without reading this gem of a thread and now Mahomes is getting benched while Kelly is going to pro bowl with multiple playoff wins in 3 years? Does that about sum it up? Does reading that statement when somebody else writes it not make you realize how asinine it sounds?

Welcome back buddy! A lot has changed since you were away :)!

[ILOVEBEER]

Wow so I go a week or so without reading this gem of a thread and now Mahomes is getting benched while Kelly is going to pro bowl with multiple playoff wins in 3 years? Does that about sum it up? Does reading that statement when somebody else writes it not make you realize how asinine it sounds?

You forgot about Kelly's Super Bowl win.

[kingsjason55]

Wow so I go a week or so without reading this gem of a thread and now Mahomes is getting benched while Kelly is going to pro bowl with multiple playoff wins in 3 years? Does that about sum it up? Does reading that statement when somebody else writes it not make you realize how asinine it sounds?Nope because Mahomes is horrible and will faulter this year. Kelly just took 1st team rep practice yesterday so clearly unless you're blind realize this kid is going somewhere. Denver has a good defense and receiver core. Its very possible Chad leads Broncos to playoffs this year.

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[IowaCubs1]

Nope because Mahomes is horrible and will faulter this year. Kelly just took 1st team rep practice yesterday so clearly unless you're blind realize this kid is going somewhere. Denver has a good defense and receiver core. Its very possible Chad leads Broncos to playoffs this year.

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Clearly YOU'RE blind if you think Mahomes is "Horrible". Give me a break. I get that you like Kelly but get off the damn Kool-Aid.

[kingsjason55]

Clearly YOU'RE blind if you think Mahomes is "Horrible". Give me a break. I get that you like Kelly but get off the damn Kool-Aid.Have you missed Mahomes in preseason like he has to his 10 yards out wide open receivers?

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[CC71]

Have you missed Mahomes in preseason like he has to his 10 yards out wide open receivers?

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that's why it's called pre season. there's time to fix that

[TheFrenzy]

Future NFL historians will divide the league's history at 2018 with all seasons prior receiving the designation "B.$." (Before $wag) and all future seasons receiving the designation "Y.O.O.$." (Year of Our $wag).

The thing about history is that it's so hard to recognize it for what it is while you're living through it.

[fungi2510]

Have you missed Mahomes in preseason like he has to his 10 yards out wide open receivers?

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Ya minus the 67 yard bomb that was right on the money huh?

[FBallHobbies]

Ya minus the 67 yard bomb that was right on the money huh?

in triple coverage

[kingsjason55]

in triple coverageSo he can win off one throw a game? Defenses will force him to make the quick accurate short passes which he struggles at.

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[IowaCubs1]

So he can win off one throw a game? Defenses will force him to make the quick accurate short passes which he struggles at.

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Can't wait for Chad Kelly to play against an actual defense :doh:

[IowaCubs1]

Have you missed Mahomes in preseason like he has to his 10 yards out wide open receivers?

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Have you missed that he is 13-19 passing with 1 TD and 1 INT in a couple quarters of play in the preseason. LOL that's not even a full game's worth of reps. But apparently, "He's Terrible" and Chad Kelly is God for having similar stats against 2nd and 3rd team defenses.

You're hilarious and the same dude that said Kizer would be Elite.

I don't know if you're being serious.

[ILOVEBEER]

Can't wait for Chad Kelly to play against an actual defense :doh:

Probably won't happen until week 13 and he comes in during garbage time. And that's IF...IF he's even the number 2 guy. No way Lynch makes the roster and even Elway has hinted at getting a veteran back-up. Wouldn't be surprised if they go after Josh McCown or Bridgewater.

[kingsjason55]

Have you missed that he is 13-19 passing with 1 TD and 1 INT in a couple quarters of play in the preseason. LOL that's not even a full game's worth of reps. But apparently, "He's Terrible" and Chad Kelly is God for having similar stats against 2nd and 3rd team defenses.

You're hilarious and the same dude that said Kizer would be Elite.

I don't know if you're being serious.Kizer is doing well also said he needs to sit behind a veteran. Mahomes is trash and played against trash in college. Kelly was elite in college and played against the best.

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[IowaCubs1]

Kizer is doing well also said he needs to sit behind a veteran. Mahomes is trash and played against trash in college. Kelly was elite in college and played against the best.

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You're right buddy. Chad Kelly is already better than Tom Brady and Mahomes is the next Brandon Weeden. Kizer who went 4-8 as a senior in college and had 11 TD 22 INT last year is going to be elite. Seriously can't make these things up. Not worth trying to get through to you. :doh: I'll leave your thread but I'm positive Mahomes will have a better career than Kelly. Guess we will just have different opinions.

[Siberian13]

Ya minus the 67 yard bomb that was right on the money huh?

That was a nice throw and TD but it was the backups as well. He did have an INT and should of been easily picked off in the red zone.

Let's just say all these young guys need more practice.

[Ewing8888]

I watched a lot of college football and Mahomes is the real deal. Sure, he'll make some rookie mistakes and take time to develop like most rookies, but he's worth it. I thought he was the best QB on the board last year and stand by that.

Kelly's upside to me is maybe Mark Sanchez. Speaking of Sanchez, wasn't he supposed to be the savior in Denver only a few years ago. They also were raving about him in camp. Between Sanchzez, Osweiller, Simien, & Lynch, Denver doesn't seem to have the best track record with QBs lately.

[ILOVEBEER]

Kizer is doing well also said he needs to sit behind a veteran. Mahomes is trash and played against trash in college. Kelly was elite in college and played against the best.

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Jamarcus Russell was really good in college. Look up his college stats and awards. Plus he played in the best conference. Being a really good college QB doesn't always mean you'll be a really good NFL QB.

Sorry,. Chad's college career wasn't elite either.

[Siberian13]

Jamarcus Russell was really good in college. Look up his college stats and awards. Plus he played in the best conference. Being a really good college QB doesn't always mean you'll be a really good NFL QB.

Sorry,. Chad's college career wasn't elite either.

A lot of QBs have good stats in college that don't make it. Weren't we all surprised Jamarcus was going first overall? I know I was. I laughed at that pick. Another Al Davis mistake or was Russell just not ready to grow up? Didn't he have drug and eating issues? Maybe he could of been good, who knows.

[Siberian13]

We all get to play the waiting game. Will be interesting to see who from the 2014, 2015, 2016, 2018 & 2018 QB classes will be the next big thing.

[kingsjason55]

I watched a lot of college football and Mahomes is the real deal. Sure, he'll make some rookie mistakes and take time to develop like most rookies, but he's worth it. I thought he was the best QB on the board last year and stand by that.

Kelly's upside to me is maybe Mark Sanchez. Speaking of Sanchez, wasn't he supposed to be the savior in Denver only a few years ago. They also were raving about him in camp. Between Sanchzez, Osweiller, Simien, & Lynch, Denver doesn't seem to have the best track record with QBs lately.LOL Mark Sanchez. Chad is better than Mahomes considering he played against sub par teams. Remember Mahomes melt down against Iowa State during his senior year. Its was horrendous and that team was well below .500. Mahomes currently talent wize is on par with Kizer only difference is Kizer does now have more experience playing on worst team imaginable. Chad is going to be a top 5 QB in NFL soon.

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[CC71]

Dan Orlovsky 2.0

[Noles939913]

LOL Mark Sanchez. Chad is better than Mahomes considering he played against sub par teams. Remember Mahomes melt down against Iowa State during his senior year. Its was horrendous and that team was well below .500. Mahomes currently talent wize is on par with Kizer only difference is Kizer does now have more experience playing on worst team imaginable. Chad is going to be a top 5 QB in NFL soon.

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That's funny considering Mahomes didn't have a Senior year in college. I do remember Kelly's epic meltdown against my Seminoles in 2016 though. I believe they were up 28-6 at one point...I'm a die hard Noles fan but I don't we win that game if anybody but Kelly is Ole Miss' QB.

[ILOVEBEER]

That's funny considering Mahomes didn't have a Senior year in college. I do remember Kelly's epic meltdown against my Seminoles in 2016 though. I believe they were up 28-6 at one point...I'm a die hard Noles fan but I don't we win that game if anybody but Kelly is Ole Miss' QB.

I'm starting to think this is a complete troll thread. Anyone who follows college football knows Chad wasn't elite and anyone who follows the NFL knows it's a longshot for CHad. He isn't even a lock for the #2 guys but he's already a SB winner and top 5 QB in a few years.

Let's see how much kingsjason55 has invested in Chad.

[deansayso]

LOL Mark Sanchez. Chad is better than Mahomes considering he played against sub par teams. Remember Mahomes melt down against Iowa State during his senior year. Its was horrendous and that team was well below .500. Mahomes currently talent wize is on par with Kizer only difference is Kizer does now have more experience playing on worst team imaginable. Chad is going to be a top 5 QB in NFL soon.

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I remember that fondly... KANSAS put up 24 against ISU and Tech only put up 10. We were still combining but I made it to the WVU game the next week since tickets were 10 bucks..

I'm starting to think this is a complete troll thread. Anyone who follows college football knows Chad wasn't elite and anyone who follows the NFL knows it's a longshot for CHad. He isn't even a lock for the #2 guys but he's already a SB winner and top 5 QB in a few years.

Let's see how much kingsjason55 has invested in Chad.

I think he has a chance to play given Denver's current QB situation. I hope he ends up great but it is a longshot. We'll see if they end up trading for Teddy Two Gloves or not.

[kingsjason55]

That's funny considering Mahomes didn't have a Senior year in college. I do remember Kelly's epic meltdown against my Seminoles in 2016 though. I believe they were up 28-6 at one point...I'm a die hard Noles fan but I don't we win that game if anybody but Kelly is Ole Miss' QB.At that time 2016 Seminoles ranked #8 with a Old Miss Team who clearly didn't have defense nor decent line vs a team who finished 3-9 Iowa State that destroyed Mahomes? Please before debating compare apples to apples

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[kingsjason55]

But lets compare two games results. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180823/b48cdac7e104f5a9a7e76beb2a1efd27.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180823/8eca45279f4d55c0fc4b3fa377c6c4ad.jpg

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[Boo]

But lets compare two games results. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180823/b48cdac7e104f5a9a7e76beb2a1efd27.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180823/8eca45279f4d55c0fc4b3fa377c6c4ad.jpg

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Three picks from Kelly cost his team the game.:coffee::coffee::coffee:

[kingsjason55]

Three picks from Kelly cost his team the game.:coffee::coffee::coffee:His defense cost him games he always had to play aggressive. Regardless Mahomes never showed up like many games. Chad always came to play every night.

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[deansayso]

Joel Lanning, who is playing LB/ST/LS for the cowboys, rushed for 5 TDs that game

[IowaCubs1]

His defense cost him games he always had to play aggressive. Regardless Mahomes never showed up like many games. Chad always came to play every night.

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I literally can't stay out of this crapshoot of a thread because you literally make up statements before looking at anything - this is what trolls do. (Calling a team Old Miss, Talking about Pat Mahomes Sr year he didn't have, among other things)

You obviously don't do any research. He only had 540 passing and 5 TD vs Arizona State, 470 passing and 5 TD against La Tech, 504 passing and 2 TD vs KSU, 734 PASSING and 5 TD vs OKLAHOMA, 586 passing and 6 TD vs Baylor - among other 300 yard passing performances. But that's terrible.

Good try though.

[Siberian13]

I literally can't stay out of this crapshoot of a thread because you literally make up statements before looking at anything - this is what trolls do. (Calling a team Old Miss, Talking about Pat Mahomes Sr year he didn't have, among other things)

You obviously don't do any research. He only had 540 passing and 5 TD vs Arizona State, 470 passing and 5 TD against La Tech, 504 passing and 2 TD vs KSU, 734 PASSING and 5 TD vs OKLAHOMA, 586 passing and 6 TD vs Baylor - among other 300 yard passing performances. But that's terrible.

Good try though.

Those are amazing stats. But we all know defense isn’t played in the Big12 or at ASU :)

[Siberian13]

We all need to wait to see what these guys do. Be patient everyone. In the meantime, sell some cards and make some money if you got them.

[IowaCubs1]

Those are amazing stats. But we all know defense isn’t played in the Big12 or at ASU :)

The post was in reference to the troll saying Mahomes "never showed up for any games". I beg to differ.

[IowaCubs1]

We all need to wait to see what these guys do. Be patient everyone. In the meantime, sell some cards and make some money if you got them.

Buying Mahomes if you have any :)!

[Siberian13]

Buying Mahomes if you have any :)!

I don’t think I have much except maybe a base Prizm or something like that. Didn’t buy boxes in 2017 except two Prizm boxes.

[IowaCubs1]

I don’t think I have much except maybe a base Prizm or something like that. Didn’t buy boxes in 2017 except two Prizm boxes.

I'll buy it. :D

[Siberian13]

I'll buy it. :D

What do you think print run is on those? One very other box? Interested to see this year’s silver prisms.

[IowaCubs1]

What do you think print run is on those? One very other box? Interested to see this year’s silver prisms.

Probably something like that. I've heard of a printing issue on them too so may be more difficult to find gem copies. I'll have to check mine.

[ILOVEBEER]

Chad's win record vs ranked teams and Chad's record vs unranked teams! Look those stats up! Definition of elite!

[IowaCubs1]

You also realize Mahomes was HURT when they played Iowa State and didn't enter the game until they were down 30? Again, no research. hahahaha

[IowaCubs1]

We will see how it all goes!

[kingsjason55]

We will see how it all goes!Did you watch this video. Mahomes killed it.
https://youtu.be/hAFFfhpLvL4

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[IowaCubs1]

I’m glad you base Kelly being better on a 3 minute TV show yet can’t research facts when trying to compare Mahomes and Kelly.

[kingsjason55]

I’m glad you base Kelly being better on a 3 minute TV show yet can’t research facts when trying to compare Mahomes and Kelly.Mahomes played against no defense basically in college where Chad played against teams like Alabama for example. Let me know when Mahomes had numbers like this against real defense. I will wait.
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[Noles939913]

Three picks from Kelly cost his team the game.:coffee::coffee::coffee:

Not to mention 2 of those 4 TDs were for 3 yards a piece.

[jcardstore]

We are going to look back at this thread in 10 years when Chad Kelly has 10 rings and laugh because kingsjason was right all along.

Sarcasm aside this thread has turned into absolute chaos but man it’s hilarious. Please never let this die. Even when Chad Money ends up doing nothing

[Siberian13]

We are going to look back at this thread in 10 years when Chad Kelly has 10 rings and laugh because kingsjason was right all along.

Sarcasm aside this thread has turned into absolute chaos but man it’s hilarious. Please never let this die. Even when Chad Money ends up doing nothing

I don’t believe everyone in this thread will be here in 10 years.

Even if Chad Kelly is a bust. Look at his prices right now. People are making money of him.

[ILOVEBEER]

We are going to look back at this thread in 10 years when Chad Kelly has 10 rings and laugh because kingsjason was right all along.

Sarcasm aside this thread has turned into absolute chaos but man it’s hilarious. Please never let this die. Even when Chad Money ends up doing nothing

He still hasn't posted any of his Chad Kelly cards. I'd like to see how much he really likes him and how much he's invested in him.

[IowaCubs1]

He still hasn't posted any of his Chad Kelly cards. I'd like to see how much he really likes him and how much he's invested in him.

Probably sold his house to invest in the second coming of Jesus.

[Siberian13]

Probably sold his house to invest in the second coming of Jesus.

Jimmy G?

[kingsjason55]

Probably sold his house to invest in the second coming of Jesus.Afraid from that make more money playing options and ETFs than to pretend like you who probably lives in parents basement.

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[ILOVEBEER]

Afraid from that make more money playing options and ETFs than to pretend like you who probably lives in parents basement.

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No seriously, let's see your Chad Kelly collection

[TheFrenzy]

Chad - Urban Dictionary (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Chad)

[kingsjason55]

No seriously, let's see your Chad Kelly collectionJust got some cracked ice cards. Everyone knows what they look like.

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[ILOVEBEER]

Just got some cracked ice cards. Everyone knows what they look like.

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Cool. Any pics?

[kingsjason55]

Cool. Any pics?I am not the showing kind of person but here is one. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180824/fcca9e11fcc79c6d1bc924b0dac46d1e.jpg

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[ILOVEBEER]

I am not the showing kind of person but here is one. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180824/fcca9e11fcc79c6d1bc924b0dac46d1e.jpg

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Not the showing kind of person.... interesting

[TheFrenzy]

One thing is for certain: Chad Kelly > Lamar Jackson

[HBMC]

Mahomes played against no defense basically in college where Chad played against teams like Alabama for example. Let me know when Mahomes had numbers like this against real defense. I will wait.
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Oh yeah, a #@#@#@#@ ball dump off on a read option when a CB can't maintain discipline on a 2nd Down play is so impressive:

http://www.secsports.com/video/13697058

Here's a miracle TD:

http://www.secsports.com/video/13696561

Those two plays only accounted for 40% of Kelly's passing in the game. Ole Miss also had to be +5 in the TO margin and had to hold on for dear life to defeat Alabama, but yes, lie to yourself some more about the guy.

[LC2nine10]

I am not the showing kind of person but here is one. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180824/fcca9e11fcc79c6d1bc924b0dac46d1e.jpg

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They picked a HORRIBLE picture of him to use on the card.
Looks like he's slinging in an ampm parking lot

[kingsjason55]

Oh yeah, a #@#@#@#@ ball dump off on a read option when a CB can't maintain discipline on a 2nd Down play is so impressive:

http://www.secsports.com/video/13697058

Here's a miracle TD:

http://www.secsports.com/video/13696561

Those two plays only accounted for 40% of Kelly's passing in the game. Ole Miss also had to be +5 in the TO margin and had to hold on for dear life to defeat Alabama, but yes, lie to yourself some more about the guy.What's funny you spent time searching this. Name me one QB in college who never missed a read. Waiting.

PS you must be a Bama fan who is still salty about this game [emoji23]

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[kingsjason55]

They picked a HORRIBLE picture of him to use on the card.
Looks like he's slinging in an ampm parking lotLOL yeah definetely not a great pic.

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[RandysHobby]

7/11 70 yards!

[ILOVEBEER]

What's funny you spent time searching this. Name me one QB in college who never missed a read. Waiting.

PS you must be a Bama fan who is still salty about this game [emoji23]

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I think Bama won the National Championship that year...No?

[kingsjason55]

7/11 70 yards!Yep played 1 quarter as #2 QB. Keenum again played 2 quarters without one TD again. Kelly is in at #2 for sure now.

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[twisty571]

They picked a HORRIBLE picture of him to use on the card.
Looks like he's slinging in an ampm parking lot

They used some great pics for his RC's:doh:
https://i.imgur.com/vO9v7wi.jpg?1

[TheFrenzy]

They used some great pics for his RC's:doh:
https://i.imgur.com/vO9v7wi.jpg?1

He looks like a guy who still cruises the high school parking lot.

Few things would make me happier than to see this photo become one of the iconic images of the hobby.

[Boo]

Quiet in here...Paxton Lynch >>>>> Chad Kelly

[jcardstore]

Chad Kelly really looked like a future superbowl winner

[Siberian13]

Quiet in here...Paxton Lynch >>>>> Chad Kelly

Is Paxton Lynch a HOF?

[Boo]

Is Paxton Lynch a HOF?

You might as well start a thread to ask, everyone else is asking about players that have no business being discussed.

[mhcook]

Is Paxton Lynch a HOF?1st ballot. Since you agree I ordered some more Contenders autos to bump my retirement portfolio. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180831/406efafd36b8dfbb0526c092c4ad4065.jpg

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[ILOVEBEER]

Quiet in here...Paxton Lynch >>>>> Chad Kelly

I don't think Paxton gets cut/traded. No one will give anything of value for Paxton, but he's probably just as good as any other scrub back-up. Broncos keep him just so they can work on him a little more.

[kingsjason55]

Paxton Lynch was playing for his life last night against grocery baggers next week. Those weren't even 3rd stringers but Chad still played well besides one Int. Elway already named Chad backup so good luck with Paxton Lynch. CFL soon for him.

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[sigmachi]

His five drives ended in an interception, punt, punt, field goal and punt.

If that sentence doesn't make a person think "wow he will be the best QB in the 2017 draft" then I don't know what will!

[Siberian13]

His five drives ended in an interception, punt, punt, field goal and punt.

If that sentence doesn't make a person think "wow he will be the best QB in the 2017 draft" then I don't know what will!

So you’re saying he’s starting material for the Browns?

[kingsjason55]

His five drives ended in an interception, punt, punt, field goal and punt.

If that sentence doesn't make a person think "wow he will be the best QB in the 2017 draft" then I don't know what will!Let me guess you didn't watch the game? Probably didn't realize most times Chad was throwing was after they ran the ball on 1st and 2nd. Elway before game made it public Chad is #2 but running back situation was their issue not knowing who is 2nd, 3rd and 4th. Clearly they used 1st quarter to figure that out some.

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[kingsjason55]

So you’re saying he’s starting material for the Browns?Yep he was throwing to Browns talent considering only trash played last night. Put Sutton out there then it changes like when he is on the field with Chad. Same players on offense played with Paxton except Arizona played grocery baggers in 2nd half on defense.


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[ILOVEBEER]

Playing in Denver, he'll have plenty of mountains to throw footballs over....

[rman112]

Playing in Denver, he'll have plenty of mountains to throw footballs over....

Uncle Rico's throwing motion is fricken hilarious.

[kingsjason55]

1st ballot. Since you agree I ordered some more Contenders autos to bump my retirement portfolio. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180831/406efafd36b8dfbb0526c092c4ad4065.jpg

Sent from my SM-N950U using TapatalkI hope that isn't your Paxton collection.

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[mhcook]

That is just part of the purchases from the last couple weeks. My Paxton collection goes on and on.I hope that isn't your Paxton collection.

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[TheFrenzy]

Anyone else remember when the Cowboys were hoping to draft Paxton?

[majestik101]

https://media.giphy.com/media/qRr8rV9WisagU/giphy.gif

[kingsjason55]

That is just part of the purchases from the last couple weeks. My Paxton collection goes on and on.

Sent from my SM-N950U using TapatalkI wish you luck. Hopefully gets picked up.

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[Archangel1775]

LOL, just a bit overthrown and the receiver didn't get his feet down before going out of bounds.....definitely the receivers fault on both.... :)

[ILOVEBEER]

Mahomes looked pretty good out there.

[TWard]

Mahomes looked pretty good out there.


#pattychrist

[IowaCubs1]

Mahomes looked pretty good out there.

What were Kelly's stats? I missed the Broncos game.

[kingsjason55]

What were Kelly's stats? I missed the Broncos game.Same as handoffs for Mahomes earned as TDs.

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[oldgoldy97]

What were Kelly's stats? I missed the Broncos game.

I checked the box score. It looks like he didn’t play. But he probably held the iPad really well.

[jcardstore]

Chad Kelly is now 1 game closer to winning his 1st Super Bowl this year :coffee:

[duwal]

What were Kelly's stats? I missed the Broncos game.


He did as well

[oldgoldy97]

He did as well

:):)!

[sigmachi]

Mahomes another awful game today. I’m starting to come around to the Chad Kelly hype now

[ILOVEBEER]

Mahomes another awful game today. I’m starting to come around to the Chad Kelly hype now

May be the Chiefs should trade Mahomes for Chad...

[IowaCubs1]

Oh man i cant wait to hear your excuses.

[oldgoldy97]

I wish I would have bought a Mahom...er, Kelly, before he exploded.

[Boo]

:coffee::coffee::coffee:

[ILOVEBEER]

Keep watching Chad will be a top QB in this league soon while people like Mahomes gets benched.

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This thread is great....

[Boo]

Should be Kelly time!

[Siberian13]

I'm still holding onto my Kelly investment.

[deansayso]

Should be Kelly time!

I agreed 100%

[IowaCubs1]

It's like he disappeared or something.....

[Boo]

Cowboy should trade for Chad Kelly

[jcardstore]

Could the Niners trade for Kelly? Which team will he lead to the superbowl this year?

[Siberian13]

Could the Niners trade for Kelly? Which team will he lead to the superbowl this year?

Browns might be able to use him soon. :)

[twisty571]

It's like he disappeared or something.....

He is sitting on the bench waiting to start over Keenum:)!

[majestik101]

This thread aged well