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broncomanning18
08-27-2018, 11:49 PM
Does anyone have an idea of the print run on these ? They seem hard to find, but that could be b/c everyone is just holding on too them.
marinocollector
08-28-2018, 04:41 AM
Does anyone have an idea of the print run on these ? They seem hard to find, but that could be b/c everyone is just holding on too them.
1000-1500.
You have centering issues. 3 big fan bases and investors saving them. A Rod is the safest investment for current QBs.
1000-1500.
You have centering issues. 3 big fan bases and investors saving them. A Rod is the safest investment for current QBs.
I think Brady is the safest
IowaCubs1
08-28-2018, 07:55 AM
I think Brady is the safest
Definitely!
Rock_47802
08-28-2018, 08:23 AM
I agree Brady is the safest. At this point, people are looking for the next Brady, as far as pricing. It looks to be Brees, but it remains to be seen if the current price points can be sustained. Rodgers would be my choice for next to blow up. Along with Eli, Big Ben and Rivers contenders and TC RC refractors. Football pricing is a lot lower than basketball and baseball, granted they are more popular worldwide than football. I look for nice gains to available on select players (QBs) in the coming year.
Southpas2013
08-28-2018, 03:03 PM
I agree Brady is the safest. At this point, people are looking for the next Brady, as far as pricing. It looks to be Brees, but it remains to be seen if the current price points can be sustained. Rodgers would be my choice for next to blow up. Along with Eli, Big Ben and Rivers contenders and TC RC refractors. Football pricing is a lot lower than basketball and baseball, granted they are more popular worldwide than football. I look for nice gains to available on select players (QBs) in the coming year.
Yup can't go wrong with Brady. Cards are starting to get up there. All #'d Gem MT RC's are crossing over $1000 . Aaron Rodgers a safe bet, just looking for him to really break out.
Brees is probably the hottest sale right now, lot of people scooping him up.
It looks like Jimmy G is cooling off now, you can get a RC AUTO for cheap. There's always a breakout rookie and who knows maybe Eli's year this year with those weapons of his.
deemsterz33
08-28-2018, 08:49 PM
Glad I snagged one a couple months ago :D
deemsterz33
08-31-2018, 04:44 PM
Anybody know what the insert rate was on 2005 TC Refractors? Can't find that info.
deemsterz33
09-01-2018, 03:15 PM
Anybody know what the insert rate was on 2005 TC Refractors? Can't find that info.
Just bumping to see if anyone out there knows the answer to this?
marinocollector
09-01-2018, 07:02 PM
Anybody know what the insert rate was on 2005 TC Refractors? Can't find that info.
1:6 packs. It’s on Beckett.
deemsterz33
09-01-2018, 07:11 PM
1:6 packs. It’s on Beckett.
Cool, thanks
deemsterz33
09-05-2018, 11:07 PM
New benchmark: $1230 for a BGS 9. About double from a couple months ago.
Bruin7
09-06-2018, 10:51 AM
All of the early-mid 2000 Topps Chrome/Finest parallels are all going through the roof.
Rock_47802
09-06-2018, 03:48 PM
New benchmark: $1230 for a BGS 9. About double from a couple months ago.
When does it stop? I mean Rodgers is probably the most physically gifted QB to ever play the position. He makes throws no other QB has ever made and his accuracy, TD to INT ratio, all outstanding. He will never fight Brady and Montana for GOAT but given the right circumstances, he could be 3rd. Kinda like MJ/Bron and Kobe are all mentioned in the same breath. I still think if a Brady BC RC refractor with a PSA 10 POP 7 (same as Rodgers TC refractor) is a 40-50k card, and a PSA 9 is 10k, then Rodgers is more than 12-15% of Brady. The gap is too big, either Rodgers, Brees, Manning, Roethlisberger TC RC refractors jump, or the Brady drops, and I don’t see the Brady dropping.
deemsterz33
09-06-2018, 04:20 PM
When does it stop? I mean Rodgers is probably the most physically gifted QB to ever play the position. He makes throws no other QB has ever made and his accuracy, TD to INT ratio, all outstanding. He will never fight Brady and Montana for GOAT but given the right circumstances, he could be 3rd. Kinda like MJ/Bron and Kobe are all mentioned in the same breath. I still think if a Brady BC RC refractor with a PSA 10 POP 7 (same as Rodgers TC refractor) is a 40-50k card, and a PSA 9 is 10k, then Rodgers is more than 12-15% of Brady. The gap is too big, either Rodgers, Brees, Manning, Roethlisberger TC RC refractors jump, or the Brady drops, and I don’t see the Brady dropping.
If Rodgers can put together an MVP level season I think we see these settle.in around the $1500-2000 level for 9s. Not sure where 10s are even at right now.
nepatsfan12dt
09-06-2018, 04:26 PM
When does it stop? I mean Rodgers is probably the most physically gifted QB to ever play the position. He makes throws no other QB has ever made and his accuracy, TD to INT ratio, all outstanding. He will never fight Brady and Montana for GOAT but given the right circumstances, he could be 3rd. Kinda like MJ/Bron and Kobe are all mentioned in the same breath. I still think if a Brady BC RC refractor with a PSA 10 POP 7 (same as Rodgers TC refractor) is a 40-50k card, and a PSA 9 is 10k, then Rodgers is more than 12-15% of Brady. The gap is too big, either Rodgers, Brees, Manning, Roethlisberger TC RC refractors jump, or the Brady drops, and I don’t see the Brady dropping.
I think all these other guys will keep increasing. Football market has been soft seems like compared to other sports. Now Brady stuff has been taking off so I think we'll see these players cards start rising as well.
thenwhatjk
09-06-2018, 04:26 PM
When does it stop? I mean Rodgers is probably the most physically gifted QB to ever play the position. He makes throws no other QB has ever made and his accuracy, TD to INT ratio, all outstanding. He will never fight Brady and Montana for GOAT but given the right circumstances, he could be 3rd. Kinda like MJ/Bron and Kobe are all mentioned in the same breath. I still think if a Brady BC RC refractor with a PSA 10 POP 7 (same as Rodgers TC refractor) is a 40-50k card, and a PSA 9 is 10k, then Rodgers is more than 12-15% of Brady. The gap is too big, either Rodgers, Brees, Manning, Roethlisberger TC RC refractors jump, or the Brady drops, and I don’t see the Brady dropping.
Brady drops is the correct answer
Rock_47802
09-06-2018, 05:14 PM
Brady drops is the correct answer
I have to disagree. I thought the same thing about Jordan stuff when it started to spike. I was dead wrong then.
joem1cha3l
09-07-2018, 07:26 PM
New benchmark: $1230 for a BGS 9. About double from a couple months ago.
Makes me wonder what my Black Chrome Refractor /100 is worth :eek:
rawkstar2k
09-07-2018, 07:41 PM
The coveted PSA 10 refractor just popped up on ebay with a $10k BIN tag, no BO. Haven't seen a PSA 10 listed in a long time. It already has 15 watchers too. The centering is off on that card though, but considering it is a 10, do you think it will sell?
There is also a Black refractor /100 on there. I could see that card being a 10k card easily.
deemsterz33
09-07-2018, 09:31 PM
The coveted PSA 10 refractor just popped up on ebay with a $10k BIN tag, no BO. Haven't seen a PSA 10 listed in a long time. It already has 15 watchers too. The centering is off on that card though, but considering it is a 10, do you think it will sell?
There is also a Black refractor /100 on there. I could see that card being a 10k card easily.
I could see the PSA 10 base going for $5000-6000. No idea on the black.
rawkstar2k
09-08-2018, 01:10 AM
The PSA 10 that was just listed on ebay sold for 10k BIN. Wondering if that is a legit sale or not. I'm guessing someone with a second account who hoarded some refracctors hit the BIN button to further raise the prices. This is a great card and all, but dang, $10k?
I offered $250 for a BGS 9 copy in Feb 2017 and declined the sellers counter of $260. Big mistake, that card will probably be a $3k card soon.
deemsterz33
09-08-2018, 05:26 AM
The PSA 10 that was just listed on ebay sold for 10k BIN. Wondering if that is a legit sale or not. I'm guessing someone with a second account who hoarded some refracctors hit the BIN button to further raise the prices. This is a great card and all, but dang, $10k?
I offered $250 for a BGS 9 copy in Feb 2017 and declined the sellers counter of $260. Big mistake, that card will probably be a $3k card soon.
I''m beyond skeptical, but with Pop 8 anything is possible.
favre3mvp
09-08-2018, 07:39 AM
I remember 3 cards popped up for sale....all 2005...
Leaf limited 1/1
Certified 1/1
Topps Chrome bgs 10...
Each were 200$.....
I hesitated and missed out.... smh.
These Refractors.... it’s seems I missed out again.
MFaulkCollector
09-08-2018, 01:53 PM
Makes me wonder what my Black Chrome Refractor /100 is worth :eek:
4-5k seems about right
deemsterz33
09-08-2018, 02:03 PM
4-5k seems about right
The one on eBay is BGS 9.5 - I could see that snagging $6-7k
MFaulkCollector
09-08-2018, 02:10 PM
The one on eBay is BGS 9.5 - I could see that snagging $6-7k
With another mvp the Rodgers black will be the most coveted topps chrome football card ever made that isn’t a 1/1
joem1cha3l
09-08-2018, 02:40 PM
The one on eBay is BGS 9.5 - I could see that snagging $6-7k
With another mvp the Rodgers black will be the most coveted topps chrome football card ever made that isn’t a 1/1
What do you think it could top off at?
deemsterz33
09-08-2018, 02:43 PM
Raw just finished at $1325
MFaulkCollector
09-08-2018, 02:47 PM
What do you think it could top off at?
I would say topping off would be 1 more super bowl and one more league mvp.... then a raw/Psa 8 I could see at 15k
Otherwise so long as he plays well for the next 3-4 years I see steady gains to where it may sit at 5-6k.... now I’d probably say 4K is about right
broncomanning18
09-09-2018, 12:28 AM
chrome refractor psa 10 just did $10,000 I think
joem1cha3l
09-09-2018, 05:44 AM
I know this is a refractor thread but there’s a contenders auto at $2300 with 15 hours left...I just bought mine 2 weeks ago for $1450. His stuff has absolutely exploded.
joem1cha3l
09-09-2018, 05:45 AM
I’m really considering putting my black up at Best Offer just to see what kind of crazy offers I get
deemsterz33
09-09-2018, 12:54 PM
I know this is a refractor thread but there’s a contenders auto at $2300 with 15 hours left...I just bought mine 2 weeks ago for $1450. His stuff has absolutely exploded.
The Brees effect
ninjacookies
09-09-2018, 08:24 PM
http://popularshopsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/ebaybuyerprotection.jpg
patchgenie
09-09-2018, 08:26 PM
tons of returns soon. hopefully, the sellers didn't spend it all:eek:
Ferg1945
09-09-2018, 08:29 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/gczk2.jpg
Cavaliercards
09-09-2018, 08:33 PM
http://popularshopsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/ebaybuyerprotection.jpg
A lot of this about to happen
deemsterz33
09-09-2018, 08:38 PM
Super unfortunate
thenwhatjk
09-09-2018, 08:53 PM
Super unfortunate
Huge bummer for all who were pumping the vaunted 2005 Topps Chrome Aaron Rodgers Refractor as the best card since Nagurski for sure
thenwhatjk
09-09-2018, 09:40 PM
Huge bummer for all who were pumping the vaunted 2005 Topps Chrome Aaron Rodgers Refractor as the best card since Nagurski for sure
Nagurski level still in play. Comeback win tonight = PSA 10 ref $25k
cyndeeg3
09-09-2018, 10:00 PM
Nagurski level still in play. Comeback win tonight = PSA 10 ref $25k jinx :-)
ninjacookies
09-09-2018, 10:16 PM
Buyers promptly closing those returns.
'I'm sorry, I changed my mind. It was just lint. Not on the card surface.'
The Accountant
09-09-2018, 10:24 PM
Buyers promptly closing those returns.
'I'm sorry, I changed my mind. It was just lint. Not on the card surface.'
so trrue
deemsterz33
09-09-2018, 10:37 PM
Buyers promptly closing those returns.
'I'm sorry, I changed my mind. It was just lint. Not on the card surface.'
Hahaha
titletowncards
09-09-2018, 10:44 PM
Hahaha! From SELL SELL SELL to BUY BUY BUY in about an hour.
Kingofkings1281
09-09-2018, 11:13 PM
I know this is a refractor thread but there’s a contenders auto at $2300 with 15 hours left...I just bought mine 2 weeks ago for $1450. His stuff has absolutely exploded.
I feel kind of bad for the guy selling the Contenders. It ended right as it looked like Rodgers was done, so it stuck at $2300. On the bright side, I’m sure it gets paid for now.
santana5747
09-09-2018, 11:19 PM
Well feel a little worse after selling a black chrome Rodgers (that the new (and current) owner graded a PSA 9) for under $1000 less than 2 years ago considering that's probably $6k+ now
ninjacookies
09-09-2018, 11:29 PM
I remember selling my bgs 9.5 contenders a few years back for around 900 (or under).
And an xfractor auto at bottom basement pricing.
Fun, fun times.
SirTommyWinAlot
09-09-2018, 11:38 PM
Got a gold refractor 9.5 all 9.5 subs. Anybody have any thoughts on what it might go for?
deemsterz33
09-10-2018, 02:51 AM
Got a gold refractor 9.5 all 9.5 subs. Anybody have any thoughts on what it might go for?
If the auto grade is a 10, then 5k?
favre3mvp
09-10-2018, 06:39 AM
Got a gold refractor 9.5 all 9.5 subs. Anybody have any thoughts on what it might go for?
Straight cash homie.
MFaulkCollector
09-10-2018, 10:33 AM
If the auto grade is a 10, then 5k?
he's probably talking about the insert set /50 gold refractor..... which could be way more than 5 k for whatever reason.
as a card that is not a true parallel i never understood why this particular item got such traction; but as the above post said... straight cash homie
if it is the auto..... 4-5k is probably right
thenwhatjk
09-10-2018, 10:35 AM
PSA 10 ref closer to 30k or 40k now?
deemsterz33
09-10-2018, 12:31 PM
he's probably talking about the insert set /50 gold refractor..... which could be way more than 5 k for whatever reason.
as a card that is not a true parallel i never understood why this particular item got such traction; but as the above post said... straight cash homie
if it is the auto..... 4-5k is probably right
Ah yes, forgot about that one
myerscards
09-10-2018, 04:54 PM
The PSA 10 that was just listed on ebay sold for 10k BIN. Wondering if that is a legit sale or not. I'm guessing someone with a second account who hoarded some refracctors hit the BIN button to further raise the prices. This is a great card and all, but dang, $10k?
I offered $250 for a BGS 9 copy in Feb 2017 and declined the sellers counter of $260. Big mistake, that card will probably be a $3k card soon.
Boy what that $10 is going to cost you.
DMACcollector
09-10-2018, 05:34 PM
I finally got this back from PSA on Saturday:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180910/6551bc85f7c53ddd7b3dad90a8c6c9ad.jpg
What do think the value on a 9 is now?
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Rock_47802
09-10-2018, 07:18 PM
I finally got this back from PSA on Saturday:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180910/6551bc85f7c53ddd7b3dad90a8c6c9ad.jpg
What do think the value on a 9 is now?
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$1380 was the last
joem1cha3l
09-12-2018, 11:11 AM
A terribly centered base chrome ended this morning at $265. I remember that being a $100-$120 card not too long ago.
deemsterz33
09-12-2018, 09:15 PM
BGS 9 - $1381
nfunk
09-12-2018, 09:18 PM
I'll take this opportunity to show off this beauty
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4010/35562041681_64ee36cf8d_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WbuL2F)2005 Topps Chrome Refractor Aaron Rodgers RC PSA 10 (https://flic.kr/p/WbuL2F) by Nate Flesher (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130031161@N07/), on Flickr
Was a BGS 9.5 and I crossed it.
YourAvgSutton
09-13-2018, 04:57 AM
I'll take this opportunity to show off this beauty
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4010/35562041681_64ee36cf8d_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WbuL2F)2005 Topps Chrome Refractor Aaron Rodgers RC PSA 10 (https://flic.kr/p/WbuL2F) by Nate Flesher (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130031161@N07/), on Flickr
Was a BGS 9.5 and I crossed it.
WOW, that's a beautiful card right there!
deemsterz33
09-13-2018, 01:39 PM
I'll take this opportunity to show off this beauty
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4010/35562041681_64ee36cf8d_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WbuL2F)2005 Topps Chrome Refractor Aaron Rodgers RC PSA 10 (https://flic.kr/p/WbuL2F) by Nate Flesher (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130031161@N07/), on Flickr
Was a BGS 9.5 and I crossed it.
Stellar centering, you could trade that in for a used BMW at this point
MFaulkCollector
09-13-2018, 01:48 PM
The 9.5 listed at 2400 will be the linchpin that blows this card into the stratosphere. People know 9.5s have been readily available over the past 6 months for 1300,1500,1600; they have all since sold. When this 9.5 sells it blow the roof off bgs 9.5s and Psa 9s will see a surge since no more bin will be available for the 9.5
2400 seems stupid now..... if Rodgers plays a healthy season and wins a playoff game people will be sorry they passed
Rock_47802
09-13-2018, 03:43 PM
The 9.5 listed at 2400 will be the linchpin that blows this card into the stratosphere. People know 9.5s have been readily available over the past 6 months for 1300,1500,1600; they have all since sold. When this 9.5 sells it blow the roof off bgs 9.5s and Psa 9s will see a surge since no more bin will be available for the 9.5
2400 seems stupid now..... if Rodgers plays a healthy season and wins a playoff game people will be sorry they passed
Would agree, especially if it had a CHANCE to cross to a PSA 10, but the centering is simply too far off side to side. It’s a nice card, but he’s firm at like $2300 on it, and with the less than stellar centering for the grade, it’ll sit.
MFaulkCollector
09-13-2018, 05:51 PM
Would agree, especially if it had a CHANCE to cross to a PSA 10, but the centering is simply too far off side to side. It’s a nice card, but he’s firm at like $2300 on it, and with the less than stellar centering for the grade, it’ll sit.
it doesn't really have anything to do with crossing over...... it just has to do with the fact that a very popular card is no longer available on ebay; period. with no competition the next seller can list a bin at 4k...... sellers at shows can prop a 3500 price tag on it and say go find one cheaper (the reality is you cannot)
with the amount on ebay bin over the past 2 years the card hasn't had the chance to be idle. auctions went low because so many bins were available. it just held down the ceiling because there was no urgency; there were a good amount available.... when bins started hitting at 1300 then 1600........ people panic....... now people are reluctant at 2400 thinking no way is it worth that much
all of a sudden someone buys at 2400...... the card is worth at least 2400 next time barring injury or terrible play..... and there is no longer a ceiling on the card. these instances are unique and come up every so often with certain very popular items. bgs 9.5 pop is like 60-65 which is very low for a modern chrome card of 1200-1500 estimated print run.... and psa 9's pop is like 70ish i think... 10 psa and bgs total is like 10....... so we are talking about only 130-140 psa 9/bgs 9.5 or better grades out there.... it may seem high but that pop report is very low (only 10% or so)
the card isn't getting younger and at 13 years old it will only be harder to find moving forward
joem1cha3l
09-13-2018, 06:57 PM
I'll take this opportunity to show off this beauty
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4010/35562041681_64ee36cf8d_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WbuL2F)2005 Topps Chrome Refractor Aaron Rodgers RC PSA 10 (https://flic.kr/p/WbuL2F) by Nate Flesher (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130031161@N07/), on Flickr
Was a BGS 9.5 and I crossed it.
unreal! beauty!
RustyDawg37
09-13-2018, 07:11 PM
y'all got me thinking about selling my Rodgers Turkey Red Gold RC. I know its not gonna be chrome money but dang.
starvela
09-13-2018, 07:41 PM
A little of topic but one of the PSA 10 Contenders got taken down...Wonder how much that sold for!!
2010GBPackers
09-16-2018, 08:27 AM
Looks like the PSA 10's have come out of the woodwork after that 10k sale. There's now 3 up for sale.
deemsterz33
09-17-2018, 01:14 PM
What are people's thoughts on the DPP Chrome Base and Refractors?
deemsterz33
09-21-2018, 12:28 PM
PSA 8 = $1001.85
pejc300
09-21-2018, 01:44 PM
What are people's thoughts on the DPP Chrome Base and Refractors?
My thoughts are...I wish I still had these:doh: That superfractor is probably worth $30,000.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1844/44107969694_c4a29cbcc3_b.jpg
3124508 on COMC
09-21-2018, 01:47 PM
What’s the contenders base /25 worth nowadays?
deemsterz33
09-21-2018, 03:02 PM
What’s the contenders base /25 worth nowadays?
Is it an auto or non? Didn't even know that existed.
3124508 on COMC
09-21-2018, 03:09 PM
Is it an auto or non? Didn't even know that existed.
Non. Here's an example. Mine isn't graded. It's his only contenders base card and /25.
https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/1/1216/24/psa-2005-playoff-contenders-aaron_1_23faa16d007830f55313ec1894acddf5.jpg
titletowncards
09-22-2018, 12:30 AM
Non. Here's an example. Mine isn't graded. It's his only contenders base card and /25.
https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/1/1216/24/psa-2005-playoff-contenders-aaron_1_23faa16d007830f55313ec1894acddf5.jpg
I like it! Got to find one of those!
Archangel1775
09-22-2018, 04:21 AM
2400 seems stupid now..... if Rodgers plays a healthy season and wins a playoff game people will be sorry they passed
jinxed him
deemsterz33
09-22-2018, 06:01 PM
Non. Here's an example. Mine isn't graded. It's his only contenders base card and /25.
https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/1/1216/24/psa-2005-playoff-contenders-aaron_1_23faa16d007830f55313ec1894acddf5.jpg
Just. Wow.
joem1cha3l
09-22-2018, 07:10 PM
Non. Here's an example. Mine isn't graded. It's his only contenders base card and /25.
https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/1/1216/24/psa-2005-playoff-contenders-aaron_1_23faa16d007830f55313ec1894acddf5.jpg
That was my card...twice lol
coltsfan23
09-22-2018, 11:15 PM
That was my card...twice lol
And mine once. 24/25. Sold it at the 2017 National. It's not my style to really regret much as the decision at the time is usually rooted in logical thought, but this is the one card of the hundreds I've sold since that I shake my head at. Not so much about the increase since but that I thought this rise was coming (as evidenced by my overall '05 AR collection), yet still moved it.
adavis3232
09-23-2018, 12:59 AM
Non. Here's an example. Mine isn't graded. It's his only contenders base card and /25.
https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/1/1216/24/psa-2005-playoff-contenders-aaron_1_23faa16d007830f55313ec1894acddf5.jpg
Maybe I have one......maybe I don't......LOL
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1888/44806718752_5ebb8e0477_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2bgq9rE)20180923_005358 (https://flic.kr/p/2bgq9rE) by Andy Davis (https://www.flickr.com/photos/146129516@N03/), on Flickr
MFaulkCollector
09-23-2018, 09:52 AM
for the above post on the case...... has anyone ever seen the 1/1 contenders championship ticket auto?
either way.... that's awesome; it seems like unopened cases are exploding in both value and popularity
favre3mvp
09-23-2018, 11:37 AM
I’ve only seen the non auto /25 for sale once..... in 13 years.
The condensers 1/1, I remember seeing something about it years ago. Someone posted a worth point post or something similar.
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