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eWax
08-31-2018, 07:05 PM
I am addicted to collecting sealed 1990's and early 2000's boxes. What is everyone's top 5 boxes in that era?

the27guy
08-31-2018, 07:07 PM
1996 chrome
1997 metal
1997 metal championship
1997 Ex
1997 skybox

eWax
08-31-2018, 07:10 PM
1996 chrome
1997 metal
1997 metal championship
1997 Ex
1997 skybox

Just in the last 2-3 years, 96 Chrome has quadrupled in value..

the27guy
08-31-2018, 07:11 PM
Just in the last 2-3 years, 96 Chrome has quadrupled in value..

I would guess they all have.

Daddymc
08-31-2018, 07:18 PM
I'm curious to hear everyone's thoughts here. I've recently started buying late 90's/early 00's wax boxes. Here are a few recent pickups:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1862/44394359131_71087f5a70_b.jpg
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1877/43486478925_b9b1cab0e6_b.jpg

eWax
08-31-2018, 07:21 PM
Concerning the 97 Skybox Zforce- Series 2 is the better series box. But still a nice box. They are drying up. Concerning the Skybox Premium box- Series 1 is the better series.

lietuvalabas
08-31-2018, 07:33 PM
1997-98 e-x2001. Used to get these for $60ish not even 10 years ago. Now 900. The hit potential is unreal.

yaoming
08-31-2018, 09:54 PM
How much is chrome 96 nowadays?

OP, are you talking value as sealed box or to bust?


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jw8
08-31-2018, 10:00 PM
I like the 96 Finest as well, thats just me though!

Dielon
08-31-2018, 10:17 PM
this stuff is getting harder and harder to find. Incredible how expensive these are, thank god football is not this high

COMCMax
09-01-2018, 05:30 AM
How much is chrome 96 nowadays?

OP, are you talking value as sealed box or to bust?


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Was sitting around $2500 ,but last box sold blew that out the water.

1996-97 Topps Chrome Basketball Box Factory sealed unopened RARE INVEST NOW! (https://bit.ly/2C7KDlz)

COMCMax
09-01-2018, 08:59 AM
I'd like to have a crate of these to open. There are so many Apex Xtreme missing. Literal diamond in the roughs.

1999-00 Skybox Apex Sealed Hobby Box, Autographics Net Shredders Kobe Barkley (https://bit.ly/2PVdj3W)

COMCMax
09-01-2018, 09:02 AM
I'd like to have a crate of these to open. There are so many Apex Xtreme missing. Literal diamond in the roughs.

1999-00 Skybox Apex Sealed Hobby Box, Autographics Net Shredders Kobe Barkley (https://bit.ly/2PVdj3W)

*do the cutting edge warptex come out of these to?

lietuvalabas
09-01-2018, 09:15 AM
*do the cutting edge warptex come out of these to?

I bought that box...brutal. kobe cutting edge and shaq jam session were the 2 best cards, maybe 40-50 in value but I 100% agree with this being worth the chase. And yes on the warp teks

slum22
09-01-2018, 11:10 AM
Concerning the 97 Skybox Zforce- Series 2 is the better series box. But still a nice box. They are drying up. Concerning the Skybox Premium box- Series 1 is the better series.

OP, thanks for starting this thread. I like collecting unopened and have some 90's boxes but missed out on the 90's as it happened so I am playing catch up in learning what inserts come out of what boxes. What makes the Series 2 better for the 97 Z Force and the Series 1 for the Skybox Premium? Thanks.

duron
09-01-2018, 12:20 PM
OP, thanks for starting this thread. I like collecting unopened and have some 90's boxes but missed out on the 90's as it happened so I am playing catch up in learning what inserts come out of what boxes. What makes the Series 2 better for the 97 Z Force and the Series 1 for the Skybox Premium? Thanks.

With Z-Force the super raves and rookies are only in series 2. For Skybox Premium I think it's the opposite, rookies in series 1. Star Rubies are in both series iirc. And a question to someone else, both series from the inaugural star rubies year use the same amoeba pattern, right?

And for some reason Blowout still has a box of 96-97 Skybox Premium listed at $600, they def confused it with 97-98.

mc1
09-01-2018, 01:39 PM
And for some reason Blowout still has a box of 96-97 Skybox Premium listed at $600, they def confused it with 97-98.

They know what they have. That box still sells for $300-400. Most of their 90s boxes are just a bit overpriced.

COMCMax
09-01-2018, 01:43 PM
They know what they have. That box still sells for $300-400. Most of their 90s boxes are just a bit overpriced.

I know I bought a lot of overpriced 90s stuff from BO when I got back in the game. I don't think they mind sitting on it. Which makes sense financially on their end.

mc1
09-01-2018, 01:48 PM
I know I bought a lot of overpriced 90s stuff from BO when I got back in the game. I don't think they mind sitting on it. Which makes sense financially on their end.

What I've noticed is that they start out with boxes priced very reasonably. Then as they begin to move inventory they raise their prices gradually. Good business sense to raise prices if demand is strong, can't blame them.

COMCMax
09-01-2018, 02:07 PM
What I've noticed is that they start out with boxes priced very reasonably. Then as they begin to move inventory they raise their prices gradually. Good business sense to raise prices if demand is strong, can't blame them.

Yea, 90s wax is as hot as anything right now. Wont last long once people realize how bad the odds are lol

duron
09-01-2018, 02:23 PM
They know what they have. That box still sells for $300-400. Most of their 90s boxes are just a bit overpriced.

It's the one glaring example. The majority of their other 90s boxes are much closer to normal limits.

ThoseBackPages
09-01-2018, 03:41 PM
Yea, 90s wax is as hot as anything right now. Wont last long once people realize how bad the odds are lol

dont think that matters anymore, really

COMCMax
09-01-2018, 03:44 PM
dont think that matters anymore, really

I think people know they are bad ,but unless you're a OG like a few of us that busted these in the 90s its hard to wrap you're head around just how bad the odds are lol

ThoseBackPages
09-01-2018, 03:51 PM
I think people know they are bad ,but unless you're a OG like a few of us that busted these in the 90s its hard to wrap you're head around just how bad the odds are lol

oh, no doubt about the awful odds, but since we are nearing the DECADE mark of Panini's monopoly, i really think folks are starting to go back

UWjBDPKGJPk

slum22
09-01-2018, 04:35 PM
The further you get from release with these higher valued unopened boxes the more the value proposition changes. The values of the boxes become less about what the contents might actually contain if you rip them as fewer and fewer of them are actually being bought for the purpose of opening. It gets to the point where the sealed box itself is the collectable prize over whatever may actually lie within the packs.

COMCMax
09-01-2018, 04:37 PM
oh, no doubt about the awful odds, but since we are nearing the DECADE mark of Panini's monopoly, i really think folks are starting to go back

UWjBDPKGJPk

I think its because presales on new products cost more per ounce than good blow..outcards

bjho852
09-01-2018, 04:52 PM
None are worth collecting.
:D They should all be BUSTED!!!

COMCMax
09-01-2018, 05:22 PM
Seller finally took down our 1997-98 Skybox case we were gonna group break =/

..but this popped up.

1998-99 FACTORY SEALED CASE OF SKYBOX MOLTEN METAL -- DUNCAN JORDAN KOBE FUSION (https://bit.ly/2PVWINx)

eWax
09-01-2018, 05:46 PM
The further you get from release with these higher valued unopened boxes the more the value proposition changes. The values of the boxes become less about what the contents might actually contain if you rip them as fewer and fewer of them are actually being bought for the purpose of opening. It gets to the point where the sealed box itself is the collectable prize over whatever may actually lie within the packs.

Well said.

Here's where I stand: I'm probably one of the largest vintage collector of unopened boxes in the world. There may be just a couple above me from what I have gathered over the last 6-7 years.

A few Reasons I collect:
1. Becoming more rarer as time goes on
2. Lets me bring back my childhood memories
3. Unopened boxes are producing more value than any other investment I have currently.
4. The thrill of the chase. It's the mystery of what might be inside.
5. I don't bust boxes, but if I did and found that special card...

ThoseBackPages
09-01-2018, 05:51 PM
Well said.

Here's where I stand: I'm probably one of the largest vintage collector of unopened boxes in the world. There may be just a couple above me from what I have gathered over the last 6-7 years.

A few Reasons I collect:
1. Becoming more rarer as time goes on
2. Lets me bring back my childhood memories
3. Unopened boxes are producing more value than any other investment I have currently.
4. The thrill of the chase. It's the mystery of what might be inside.
5. I don't bust boxes, but if I did and found that special card...

NBA Vintage?

TheVolta
09-01-2018, 05:52 PM
When I was seven during xmas 97-98 what I really wanted was a box of Metal Universe and my mom actually got me one! The inserts sucked, I think I got a Marcus Camby Planet Metal and Silver slams of Terrell Brandon and Kerry Kittles and no PMGs but I did manage a complete base set which I've had in pages in a folder ever since. Cannot believe what these boxes are going for now! There was no way I wasn't busting that box though.

oldgoldy97
09-01-2018, 05:55 PM
I busted a box of almost every product back in the mid to late nineties (missed on 96-97 TC :(). I really wish I would have stashed it away instead.

eWax
09-01-2018, 05:58 PM
NBA Vintage?

Yes- I have collected some football and baseball but NBA is my main collection. Reason- I loved, like we all did, watching Jordan play the game. When I was a kid, I was so excited to wear my Chicago Bulls hat.

ThoseBackPages
09-01-2018, 06:15 PM
Yes- I have collected some football and baseball but NBA is my main collection. Reason- I loved, like we all did, watching Jordan play the game. When I was a kid, I was so excited to wear my Chicago Bulls hat.

LOVE IT!

eWax
09-01-2018, 06:24 PM
LOVE IT!

Not sure how to take that! Ha, is that a poke fun at me comment or are you with me and the good times back then.

ThoseBackPages
09-01-2018, 06:56 PM
Not sure how to take that! Ha, is that a poke fun at me comment or are you with me and the good times back then.

good times indeed

share your stash!

eWax
09-01-2018, 07:02 PM
good times indeed

share your stash!

I might one day. Problem is I have them stashed all over the place. Even in different cities. I would never store them in my home. Too much risk. Do you collect? I would also like to see pictures of other people's collections.

ThoseBackPages
09-01-2018, 07:03 PM
I might one day. Problem is I have them stashed all over the place. Even in different cities. I would never store them in my home. Too much risk. Do you collect? I would also like to see pictures of other people's collections.

yes, just Star MJs

just picked up my 108th BGS copy! so pumped!

eWax
09-01-2018, 07:06 PM
yes, just Star MJs

just picked up my 108th BGS copy! so pumped!

Oh wow! Very nice! Seems like I researched some years back that those don't even come in boxes? Just the clear packs or team bags?

eWax
09-01-2018, 07:13 PM
When I was seven during xmas 97-98 what I really wanted was a box of Metal Universe and my mom actually got me one! The inserts sucked, I think I got a Marcus Camby Planet Metal and Silver slams of Terrell Brandon and Kerry Kittles and no PMGs but I did manage a complete base set which I've had in pages in a folder ever since. Cannot believe what these boxes are going for now! There was no way I wasn't busting that box though.

I am partial to blame for that- I do apologize. :)

oldgoldy97
09-01-2018, 07:26 PM
yes, just Star MJs

just picked up my 108th BGS copy! so pumped!

Awesome! Let’s see a pic!

TheVolta
09-01-2018, 07:30 PM
I am partial to blame for that- I do apologize. :)

Ahhh no biggie! This was one of the best looking sets ever made IMO and busting that box with my mom helping me bust a pack or two was something I’ll cherish forever. TBH though.... at the time I had seen a couple PMGs at mall shows and thought they looked sooooo ugly in comparison to the base cards.

COMCMax
09-01-2018, 08:45 PM
Off the cuff guess. The highend 90s boxes. Are there 100's or thousand's of boxes still out there? Seems like there should be a absolute ton unless the companies dumped what they didn't move in the ocean lol

Where's our math nerds. Give us a print run to play with.

Anyone else own one of these on the board? Only one accounted for on worthpoint.
https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/1/0411/12/1997-98-x-2001-credentials-now-kobe_1_0878f70cadad4dba63ccce8efa3e9c44.jpg

lietuvalabas
09-02-2018, 01:04 PM
Off the cuff guess. The highend 90s boxes. Are there 100's or thousand's of boxes still out there? Seems like there should be a absolute ton unless the companies dumped what they didn't move in the ocean lol

Where's our math nerds. Give us a print run to play with.

Anyone else own one of these on the board? Only one accounted for on worthpoint.
https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/1/0411/12/1997-98-x-2001-credentials-now-kobe_1_0878f70cadad4dba63ccce8efa3e9c44.jpg

i believe spinotron has 1 or 2. these are just gorgeous cards man.

splum
09-02-2018, 01:13 PM
oh, no doubt about the awful odds, but since we are nearing the DECADE mark of Panini's monopoly, i really think folks are starting to go back

UWjBDPKGJPk

This is wonderfully ironic considering the biggest theme of the show is moving on, together.

cardmole
09-02-2018, 01:29 PM
i believe spinotron has 1 or 2. these are just gorgeous cards man.

My favorite basketball set from '90s

COMCMax
09-02-2018, 08:04 PM
Guy on the football boards bought a Jordan PMG Red for a $100 back in June. Traded it for a Pepsi and pack of twizzlers. Basketball forum is really moving up in the world of BO.

yaoming
09-03-2018, 11:32 AM
Agree with most of the posts above

I also believe Panini is responsible to this “rising price” of 90s boxes

Take Noir 17:18 for example
The best possible cards are Barkley spotlight sig
Which is about $1k (and possibly dropping in the future) while a case is $2k



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eWax
09-03-2018, 11:38 AM
Agree with most of the posts above

I also believe Panini is responsible to this “rising price” of 90s boxes

Take Noir 17:18 for example
The best possible cards are Barkley spotlight sig
Which is about $1k (and possibly dropping in the future) while a case is $2k



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Here's the funny thing though: I remember people talking about the same thing when 2003-04 Exquisite came out. $500 box and Lebron RPA was selling for what $1000-$2000?

biggieruth
09-03-2018, 03:10 PM
I might one day. Problem is I have them stashed all over the place. Even in different cities. I would never store them in my home. Too much risk. Do you collect? I would also like to see pictures of other people's collections.

You sounding like your stashing drugs at your stash houses.I did'nt it was this serious.

djohn
09-04-2018, 02:53 PM
Here are my top 5 unopened boxes from the 90s:
93-94 Finest Jumbo
96-97 EX2000
96-97 Topps Chrome
97-98 SP Authentic
98-99 SP Authentic

slum22
09-04-2018, 03:05 PM
Here are my top 5 unopened boxes from the 90s:
93-94 Finest Jumbo
96-97 EX2000
96-97 Topps Chrome
97-98 SP Authentic
98-99 SP Authentic

Thanks for sharing your list. I have one from it! Probably the cheapest, lol. Hopefully more folks chime in on their top 5 boxes too. I am definitely into 90's unopened but have a lot to learn about the different products, so I like seeing the opinions of folks who might know more.

eWax
09-04-2018, 08:47 PM
Thanks for sharing your list. I have one from it! Probably the cheapest, lol. Hopefully more folks chime in on their top 5 boxes too. I am definitely into 90's unopened but have a lot to learn about the different products, so I like seeing the opinions of folks who might know more.

I don't mind to help-

slum22
09-06-2018, 07:09 PM
I don't mind to help-

I appreciate it. I will definitely look forward to learning more.

In the meantime, this thread is pretty low on pictures so let's start sharing some collections. Here is most of what I have. All of my stuff is boxed up in a closet so it is a bit of a chore getting them all out. I missed a few boxes but this is a partial family photo of them.

https://i.imgur.com/Groqzd2l.jpg

eliteman0318
09-06-2018, 07:32 PM
Despite the box being outside of the 90's, I would throw in 2008-09 skybox hobby.

It is the closest box (nba liscenced) to the 90s and the only box to get pmgs for lebron in nba uniform along with rubies and Jordan autographs. It is also very under appreciated.

ThoseBackPages
09-06-2018, 08:13 PM
I appreciate it. I will definitely look forward to learning more.

In the meantime, this thread is pretty low on pictures so let's start sharing some collections. Here is most of what I have. All of my stuff is boxed up in a closet so it is a bit of a chore getting them all out. I missed a few boxes but this is a partial family photo of them.

https://i.imgur.com/Groqzd2l.jpg

LOVE IT!

COMCMax
09-06-2018, 08:32 PM
I appreciate it. I will definitely look forward to learning more.

In the meantime, this thread is pretty low on pictures so let's start sharing some collections. Here is most of what I have. All of my stuff is boxed up in a closet so it is a bit of a chore getting them all out. I missed a few boxes but this is a partial family photo of them.

https://i.imgur.com/Groqzd2l.jpg

https://media.tenor.co/images/2d092a38b027431aadf6041ec8f54e2a/tenor.gif

ThoseBackPages
09-06-2018, 08:57 PM
https://media.tenor.co/images/2d092a38b027431aadf6041ec8f54e2a/tenor.gif

https://media.tenor.co/images/2d092a38b027431aadf6041ec8f54e2a/tenor.gif

yaoming
09-06-2018, 08:57 PM
Wow ! Nice collection OP
It will be very hard not to open those [emoji16]


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eWax
09-06-2018, 09:08 PM
Here's where it all started for me...

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COMCMax
09-06-2018, 09:12 PM
Here's where it all started for me...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180907/8a2384908980ce0da1db3e332a224f3e.jpg


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This belongs is the NSFW boobs thead.

eWax
09-06-2018, 09:17 PM
This belongs is the NSFW noon thead.

Confused by what you meant here...

COMCMax
09-06-2018, 09:19 PM
Confused by what you meant here...

Autocorrect changed boobs to noon lol

COMCMax
09-06-2018, 09:22 PM
I will from now on refer to them as Noons.

Lots of men in our hobby have man noons. Could get weird.

eWax
09-06-2018, 09:28 PM
I will from now on refer to them as Noons.

Lots of men in our hobby have man noons. Could get weird.

I weigh 160 pounds. BTW, The Skybox brand is by far my favorite of all time.

COMCMax
09-06-2018, 09:49 PM
I weigh 160 pounds. BTW, The Skybox brand is by far my favorite of all time.

That's how you afford all those nice 90s boxes. You don't eat :P thinking in sitting at a sold 215.

COMCMax
09-06-2018, 10:06 PM
Wonder where the 24ct case of 97-98 Metal Universe ended up that was on the bay.

ThoseBackPages
09-06-2018, 10:09 PM
LOVE IT!

eWax
09-06-2018, 10:12 PM
Wonder where the 24ct case of 97-98 Metal Universe ended up that was on the bay.

I think if it was series 1 case it would have been a total different story.

eWax
09-06-2018, 10:21 PM
I found another old picture. I think I have 2 of these bad boys.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180907/504ec389e1b31cccb6efa21441656a76.jpg


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eWax
09-06-2018, 10:30 PM
Despite the box being outside of the 90's, I would throw in 2008-09 skybox hobby.

It is the closest box (nba liscenced) to the 90s and the only box to get pmgs for lebron in nba uniform along with rubies and Jordan autographs. It is also very under appreciated.

I've researched that box for quite some time. I can't seem to get into it though.

COMCMax
09-07-2018, 08:08 AM
I found another old picture. I think I have 2 of these bad boys.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180907/504ec389e1b31cccb6efa21441656a76.jpg


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I'd bust those bad boys around noon.

ThoseBackPages
09-07-2018, 10:24 AM
I'd bust those bad boys and run around nude.

fixed

COMCMax
09-07-2018, 10:40 AM
This belongs is the NSFW noon thead
" Confused by what you meant here...

I ment boobs. I will from now on refer to them as Noon.

@TBS

Bust em nude around noon :X

mc1
09-07-2018, 12:27 PM
Wonder where the 24ct case of 97-98 Metal Universe ended up that was on the bay.

Was that Metal Championship? I know Steel City had a 24 box case for 25k.

COMCMax
09-07-2018, 12:31 PM
Was that Metal Championship? I know Steel City had a 24 box case for 25k.

Yea, you're right. It was now that I think about it. I was just looking for it the other day.

GOATcollector
09-07-2018, 02:38 PM
Here are some pics of my unopened box collection. Most are 90s basketball. Sorry I didn’t take them out to better display. I guess I have developed a bit of a 90s box habit. ;)

COMCMax
09-07-2018, 03:04 PM
All that closest is missing is a glory hol..y bible.

Incredible..

slum22
09-07-2018, 03:11 PM
Here are some pics of my unopened box collection. Most are 90s basketball. Sorry I didn’t take them out to better display. I guess I have developed a bit of a 90s box habit. ;)

Amazing. Thanks for sharing.

yaoming
09-07-2018, 05:58 PM
Wow [emoji33]
How do you resist the temptation, seriously
When did you start buying those OP?


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GOATcollector
09-07-2018, 06:34 PM
I do open a box now and then, and when I feel an itch I just open a pack or two. A box could last me a month or two to open completely. Unfortunately I just started buying these boxes in recent years. I still shop for them and I plan to keep adding for the right prices which are getting harder to find. Better late than never?

eliteman0318
09-07-2018, 07:22 PM
I do open a box now and then, and when I feel an itch I just open a pack or two. A box could last me a month or two to open completely. Unfortunately I just started buying these boxes in recent years. I still shop for them and I plan to keep adding for the right prices which are getting harder to find. Better late than never?

Great to see a fellow sealed box collector!
What’s even better.. finding 90s sealed cases :)

GOATcollector
09-07-2018, 07:45 PM
Great to see a fellow sealed box collector!
What’s even better.. finding 90s sealed cases :)

The thought of finding an unsealed case is giving me goosebumps!

eliteman0318
09-07-2018, 08:06 PM
The thought of finding an unsealed case is giving me goosebumps!

I was finding them up until early last year and then they all dried up :(

ThoseBackPages
09-07-2018, 10:00 PM
LOVE IT!

i too, have a box of the 92 Dream Team!

LinguaSpCards
09-08-2018, 07:15 AM
Great thread here. It certainly is exciting to see so many unsealed boxes from the 1990s. Quick question for those of you who buy 1990s boxes:

How afraid are you that the cards inside are sticking to each other?

I've opened several boxes from the 1990s (usually baseball cards), and I'd say about half of the time, the gloss on the cards created so much sticking, that most of the cards were not salvageable. These experiences really turned me off from buying 1990s boxes. I only go after rare singles now.

Even if you store your boxes in perfect conditions (to reduce humidity, etc.), there is no way to know how the previous owner stored his/her cards. I like to open 1990s products. But even if I liked to collect full unopened boxes, just knowing that the cards inside may all come out in giant bricks all stuck together would probably cause me to reconsider.

So unless I obtained a 1990s box at release time and then stored it in perfect conditions for the last 20 years or so, I don't think I would feel comfortable with an unsealed box. Certainly not at the prices many boxes are going for these days.

Thoughts?

COMCMax
09-08-2018, 07:46 AM
Like Fort Knox with the gold bars stacked up.

On my phone. Can't see it all. Any of these in there? Been going for nutty prices past couple months.

1997-98 Skybox Metal Universe Series One basketball cards - factory sealed box (https://bit.ly/2Nlvh1h)

eliteman0318
09-08-2018, 08:23 AM
Like Fort Knox with the gold bars stacked up.

On my phone. Can't see it all. Any of these in there? Been going for nutty prices past couple months.

1997-98 Skybox Metal Universe Series One basketball cards - factory sealed box (https://bit.ly/2Nlvh1h)

This box is the 90s holy grail with the first pmgs. I will buy it now under 2k anyday

COMCMax
09-08-2018, 10:49 AM
This box is the 90s holy grail with the first pmgs. I will buy it now under 2k anyday

Is there a retail version? This went cheap if you're talking like that. Just a uneducated seller on the product? Honestly, i'm not familiar with the wax. I'm very familiar with the inserts.

1997-98 Skybox NBA Metal Universe Basketball Hobby Series One---Factory Sealed (https://bit.ly/2M5tRmN)

eliteman0318
09-08-2018, 11:15 AM
Is there a retail version? This went cheap if you're talking like that. Just a uneducated seller on the product? Honestly, i'm not familiar with the wax. I'm very familiar with the inserts.

1997-98 Skybox NBA Metal Universe Basketball Hobby Series One---Factory Sealed (https://bit.ly/2M5tRmN)

Thats hobby. When sellers dont know what they have or list incorrectly you can find steals. Hence why that box is bought up immediately. If that went on auction you'd see the real value.

COMCMax
09-08-2018, 12:08 PM
Thats hobby. When sellers dont know what they have or list incorrectly you can find steals. Hence why that box is bought up immediately. If that went on auction you'd see the real value.

We've got a sports card ringer among us :eek:

Thanks for the insight Gordon Gekko.

*That was rude. I did ask for it.

COMCMax
09-08-2018, 01:49 PM
We've got a sports card ringer among us :eek:

Thanks for the insight Gordon Gekko.

*That was rude. I did ask for it.

Looked around some more. Like 5 boxes that have gone for between $600-800 I see in the past 2 months. Was there preview boxes or something? Im still not getting it.

mc1
09-08-2018, 02:03 PM
Looked around some more. Like 5 boxes that have gone for between $600-800 I see in the past 2 months. Was there preview boxes or something? Im still not getting it.

Pics or links? I did see an 18 pack retail box that sold for $600 in July.

COMCMax
09-08-2018, 02:13 PM
Pics or links? I did see an 18 pack retail box that sold for $600 in July.

Its Championship Preview boxes. Im wrong again.

COMCMax
09-08-2018, 02:25 PM
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eWax
09-08-2018, 06:28 PM
The Championship preview box is no slouch. You can still get the PMG's in that box. However, Series 1 is the better series as far as value. I collect both. I do stay away from just about all retail box versions in skybox. Hobby only.

COMCMax
09-08-2018, 06:36 PM
The Championship preview box is no slouch. You can still get the PMG's in that box. However, Series 1 is the better series as far as value. I collect both. I do stay away from just about all retail box versions in skybox. Hobby only.

I have been educated. Now it all makes sense.

Thank you kind sir.

eWax
09-08-2018, 06:43 PM
I have been educated. Now it all makes sense.

Thank you kind sir.

I feel a baby 90's box collector is being born! I welcome you to the journey.

mc1
09-08-2018, 06:45 PM
The Championship preview box is no slouch. You can still get the PMG's in that box. However, Series 1 is the better series as far as value. I collect both. I do stay away from just about all retail box versions in skybox. Hobby only.

The two Metal Universe products werent series 1 or 2. They were distinct products.

eWax
09-08-2018, 06:48 PM
The two Metal Universe products werent series 1 or 2. They were distinct products.

Might want to do a little more research there fellow: I never stated there was a series 2 box. There is a series 1 and a championship preview series.

mc1
09-08-2018, 07:00 PM
Might want to do a little more research there fellow: I never stated there was a series 2 box. There is a series 1 and a championship preview series.

No, it's called Metal Universe.

eWax
09-08-2018, 07:02 PM
No, it's called Metal Universe.

They are both metal universe boxes.

mc1
09-08-2018, 07:08 PM
They are both metal universe boxes.

I said that before. The other one is Championship.

eWax
09-08-2018, 07:12 PM
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09-08-2018, 07:26 PM
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If there wasn't a series two, is there really a series one? I don't care what the box says. It's known as Metal Universe the other is Championship.

pinguino17
09-08-2018, 07:46 PM
Found these and immediately picked them up in a flea market today. Is there much demand for these?
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eliteman0318
09-08-2018, 09:50 PM
Found these and immediately picked them up in a flea market today. Is there much demand for these?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1876/42752179260_9a019cbcb2_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/288S6qY)IMG_2677 (https://flic.kr/p/288S6qY) by damexstud (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30776194@N07/), on Flickr

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These are nice. 2 years ago 50-60 now 120+.

The hoopstars has Jordan and autographics are always coveted.

Series 1 though not as good as series 2 which has 911 and high voltage inserts

Clipperfan3
09-08-2018, 09:54 PM
This is 97-98 Ultra Series 1 which is superior to the series 2.

You get first ever SP RC's. 1:4 packs. Duncan McGrady etc...
Platinum Medallion /100 MJ, Kobe, Duncan etc...
First ever Masterpiece 1/1
Ultra Stars Gold MJ = $10K+ card
Ultrabilities Superstar MJ, Kobe etc...

I listed this box on ebay and more than 1 person got mad I wouldn't sell the box for $200 citing Series 2 completed sales.

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eWax
09-09-2018, 12:07 AM
Always have collected the fleer ultra boxes. One of my favorites. And you are correct concerning the series. However, I collect both series.

eWax
09-09-2018, 12:09 AM
Plus, I still believe there are some 1/1 masterpieces yet to be discovered.

Sigchiwab44
09-09-2018, 09:08 AM
Please PM me if you would still like to sell the box


This is 97-98 Ultra Series 1 which is superior to the series 2.

You get first ever SP RC's. 1:4 packs. Duncan McGrady etc...
Platinum Medallion /100 MJ, Kobe, Duncan etc...
First ever Masterpiece 1/1
Ultra Stars Gold MJ = $10K+ card
Ultrabilities Superstar MJ, Kobe etc...

I listed this box on ebay and more than 1 person got mad I wouldn't sell the box for $200 citing Series 2 completed sales.

http://i68.tinypic.com/107kgtl.jpg

http://i65.tinypic.com/2wq52lw.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/2d7fubn.jpg

CastleBeachCards
09-10-2018, 01:43 AM
I wonder if they were planning a series 2 at some point. If they had made a series 2, what would everyone liked to have seen in it?If there wasn't a series two, is there really a series one? I don't care what the box says. It's known as Metal Universe the other is Championship.

LinguaSpCards
09-10-2018, 09:37 AM
Anybody have an answer to this?


Great thread here. It certainly is exciting to see so many unsealed boxes from the 1990s. Quick question for those of you who buy 1990s boxes:

How afraid are you that the cards inside are sticking to each other?

I've opened several boxes from the 1990s (usually baseball cards), and I'd say about half of the time, the gloss on the cards created so much sticking, that most of the cards were not salvageable. These experiences really turned me off from buying 1990s boxes. I only go after rare singles now.

Even if you store your boxes in perfect conditions (to reduce humidity, etc.), there is no way to know how the previous owner stored his/her cards. I like to open 1990s products. But even if I liked to collect full unopened boxes, just knowing that the cards inside may all come out in giant bricks all stuck together would probably cause me to reconsider.

So unless I obtained a 1990s box at release time and then stored it in perfect conditions for the last 20 years or so, I don't think I would feel comfortable with an unsealed box. Certainly not at the prices many boxes are going for these days.

Thoughts?

eWax
09-10-2018, 10:52 AM
Anybody have an answer to this?

I will answer:
Does not phase me one bit. It's a chance that I am willing to take. They are not making anymore 1990's and early 2000's boxes anymore.

I've opened quite a few 90's boxes in the past and never did experience the cards sticking together.

It's sorda like buying a used car. Are you 100% there isn't internal engine or transmission concerns after the initial test drive? We all take chances and risks everyday. All the way from purchasing existing businesses, buying used cars, buying a home, and buying 90's sports card boxes.

eWax
09-10-2018, 11:05 AM
I wonder if they were planning a series 2 at some point. If they had made a series 2, what would everyone liked to have seen in it?

You would think they were huh? And if they had, I would have liked to seen like orange numbered to 150 or maybe some other colored PMG's. However, keeping the greens and the reds the ultimate and more valued.

Sigchiwab44
09-10-2018, 11:44 AM
Anybody have an answer to this?

I have a lot of experience with busting product over the past 21 months. The worst sticking products for me have been fleer brilliants. 98-99 thunder and 98-99/99-00 Ultra commonly have sticking issues. I've had 98-99 fleer tradition stuck like a brick and some boxes not sticking at all. Topps Chrome sticks, but typically easy to clean surfaces with lens cleaner and microfiber cloth. 97-98 Finest and chrome you have to worry about hulking of the cards even straight from the packs. All of that being said, I think storage is a huge factor in amount of sticking with most products.