Offical 2018 Los Angeles Rams Thread [Archive]

rainmaker

09-11-2018, 10:22 AM

last nights game was a work of art. there is not really anywhere to pick out a flaw. i suppose lack of edge rush was a weakness that showed at the start of the game but things settled down just fine after the first raiders drive and even more in the second half.

this team is a force.

seabass97166

09-11-2018, 10:38 AM

You can tell the starters didn't take a snap in preseason. A bit rusty, Oakland came out with their hair on fire and played a great first half.

But the Rams made the second half adjustments like always - Phillips the best in the NFL in making adjustments

I would like to see better clock management out of McVay. Hell of a coach but needs to kill the clock better late in games when they are up. Passing is fine, just a tad more conservative and keep the ball in play, stay inbounds, etc.

Siberian13

09-11-2018, 10:39 AM

Good stuff by the Rams to start the year. Wonder how good they can be? Seems like all the pieces are there.

What are their weaknesses?

goodole13

09-11-2018, 10:45 AM

Go Rams!

Kent Clements

09-12-2018, 08:22 AM

Good stuff by the Rams to start the year. Wonder how good they can be? Seems like all the pieces are there.

What are their weaknesses?

Linebackers are a question.But like it has been stated adjustments were made.Nice to see "The Leg" is back.

Kent Clements

09-14-2018, 08:13 AM

This week its the Cardinals.Suh has let it known that he has payback on his mind when he plays against Bradford.

goodole13

09-14-2018, 09:56 AM

This week its the Cardinals.Suh has let it known that he has payback on his mind when he plays against Bradford.

Suh has payback on his mind? For what? Do you mean just something to prove and to show teams that he deserved to be picked ahead of Bradford in the 2010 draft? I’m actually curious to read the article you read stating “payback.”

Siberian13

09-14-2018, 10:01 AM

Suh has payback on his mind? For what? Do you mean just something to prove and to show teams that he deserved to be picked ahead of Bradford in the 2010 draft? I’m actually curious to read the article you read stating “payback.”

Yeah just being picked ahead of him is all.

Kent Clements

09-14-2018, 10:06 AM

goodole13

09-14-2018, 10:19 AM

Yeah just being picked ahead of him is all.

Yeah, that’s what I figured. There was no mention of “payback” in the article.

Kent Clements

09-16-2018, 06:41 PM

Total domination today !!! The Rams did what ever they wanted against the Cards.Next week bring on L.A.

Kent Clements

09-21-2018, 09:15 AM

Alot of doubters still because who the Rams have played. Lets make it 3-0 before the Vikings game on Thursday !!

splitrockgamer

09-21-2018, 09:18 AM

I feel like next week's Thursday night game might be a NFC championship preview? Both those teams are solid as they come from 1-30 .. they seem to have very little to no weakness, should be fun.

Kent Clements

09-24-2018, 07:29 AM

Total dominance by the offense.3-0 for the first time since 2001.Bring on the Vikings !!

goodole13

09-24-2018, 08:39 AM

I hope Talib and Peters are okay. I think Vikings win if both starting corners are inactive.

goodole13

09-24-2018, 09:07 AM

Good Goff article on NFL.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000966111/article/jared-goff-quietly-leads-rams-to-perfect-30-start

goodole13

09-24-2018, 09:26 AM

Rams will need to pressure Cousins in order to help out the secondary, especially backup corners Roby and Shields. Having home field and McVay being familiar with Cousins should be slight advantages for the Rams.

jdandns

09-24-2018, 12:44 PM

Rams enabled the Jack-in-the-Box special (for SoCal fans) by scoring the two touchdowns needed before the 1st quarter was even done yesterday. I remember when the deal was first offered for the 2016 season and it coincided with the Rams being the lowest scoring team in football. I think they came through something like 4 times that year. Last year, I think they only came up short 3 times all season as the highest scoring team in the league. Looks like they'll at least match that number this year, although it may be tough to top KC for the scoring title, they way they're going. Hopefully, it'll be them and the Rams in the Super Bowl.

Great start to the season so far. Looking forward to the rest...

motu79

09-24-2018, 01:09 PM

As a Seahawk fan, I'm not looking forward to our meetings this year. ha

I wouldn't be surprised to see this Rams team win 14 games this year! Just a loaded team right now on both sides of the ball.

Kent Clements

09-27-2018, 01:40 PM

Prime Time tonight !! Offense to shine tonight :)!

Bowman1951

09-27-2018, 01:42 PM

Prime Time tonight !! Offense to shine tonight :)!Woah, what a TNF game!

I couldn't believe how excited I was for the two rookie QB's last week but obviously this one is going to be even better. I'm super into TNF this year because it feels like a "real" game with the 1st rate announcers, regardless of how you feel about them.

dfr52

09-27-2018, 02:05 PM

Woah, what a TNF game!

I couldn't believe how excited I was for the two rookie QB's last week but obviously this one is going to be even better. I'm super into TNF this year because it feels like a "real" game with the 1st rate announcers, regardless of how you feel about them.

I agree, better games so far and nice to have the tier one announcers.

goodole13

09-27-2018, 02:29 PM

I’m definitely a little worried with Talib and Peters out. Luckily the DLine should get enough pressure to not allow Cousins much time.

ThaReal1

09-27-2018, 05:37 PM

Strangely I'm not worried about this game tonight. The offense has me feeling all type of confidence.

I told a co worker of mine to humble me with his thoughts on how Vikes would win cause I'm feeling great even with the injuries at CB.

Exciting to have a fun game to go home after work and watch

Kent Clements

10-02-2018, 09:56 AM

Can't wait for this weeks game against Seattle.I know it won't happen but I hope the Rams run it up against Carroll !!

Kent Clements

10-07-2018, 06:56 PM

Game was a joke today !! The calls that were made just defy logic .The N.F.L. is becoming unwatchable .

Kent Clements

10-10-2018, 12:59 PM

No other Ram fans ?? Will the Rams have to compete against the Broncos and officals this week ??

dfr52

10-10-2018, 03:19 PM

Wow, a little disappointed by the interest in the Rams. A number of young stars, an innovative coach, and a winning record.

rainmaker

10-10-2018, 04:55 PM

they are like the patriots... this thread will heat up come mid december. for now they will just roll through winning 12, 13, 14 games with ease.

dfr52

10-10-2018, 05:27 PM

they are like the patriots... this thread will heat up come mid december. for now they will just roll through winning 12, 13, 14 games with ease.

So the band wagon will be a roll'n in a few months. Every won will be cheering for Andy Donald, Todd Giles, Jeremy Guff, and Nathan Suh.lol.

goodole13

10-10-2018, 07:41 PM

So the band wagon will be a roll'n in a few months. Every won will be cheering for Andy Donald, Todd Giles, Jeremy Guff, and Nathan Suh.lol.

I don't think it will necessarily be a bandwagon thing; it will more than likely be members looking to discuss the Rams' season.

jdandns

10-10-2018, 07:49 PM

Wow, a little disappointed by the interest in the Rams. A number of young stars, an innovative coach, and a winning record.

Lifelong fan here. I don't chime in much because I don't want to jinx it!

Oh, I fear I've said too much.

Back to stealth mode.

Dodgerfan74

10-10-2018, 10:50 PM

Rams vs Broncos
Wind & Snow
Go Rams!

goodole13

10-15-2018, 12:28 AM

The last remaining unbeaten. Gurley had an amazing rushing day!

dfr52

10-15-2018, 06:48 AM

I don't think it will necessarily be a bandwagon thing; it will more than likely be members looking to discuss the Rams' season.

I would expect the winning to draw new fans. The franchise has nearly everything you would want in today's NFL. Congrats to all the Rams fans to what the team has done so far!

Schocktown

10-15-2018, 01:12 PM

Lifelong Rams fan here in Indiana. It was much easier to see them In St. Louis but they belong in Los Angeles. I got to go to three different games during the Greatest Show On Turf Super Bowl winning season and that was an insane blast. Was right there the next year when they got the rings on Monday night against Denver.

Yesterdays win wasn't pretty over Denver but it certainly showed they are not only set up to win one way. Being outside in the cold with wind threw off the passing game but we had Gurley to lean on. That is exactly what you look for in a champion, even if all cylinders aren't clicking you find a way to pull out the ugly wins.

I think we are in for a very long run in the playoffs.

Kent Clements

10-17-2018, 04:34 PM

"The Leg" will be back against the Niners this week.Better weather will certainly help Goff and Co.

jdandns

10-21-2018, 06:50 PM

haha, 7-0, and only 40 posts.

The big Blue & Yellow Machine is a-rollin'

Gurley on pace for numerous records and the League MVP Award.

Defense as advertised.

Saints and Chiefs have the best chance beating the Rams, but at least 13 wins seems almost a foregone conclusion at this point.

BostonNut

10-21-2018, 06:52 PM

I’d love to see a Rams and Chiefs Super Bowl.

Both teams are must see TV!

cardmole

10-21-2018, 06:56 PM

I’d love to see a Rams and Chiefs Super Bowl.

Both teams are must see TV!

Yeah, me too. Get to see them play next month for sure tho....

tnvolfan16

10-21-2018, 07:02 PM

my favorite part is how bad the 49ers are now. serves that podunct franchise right.

goodole13

10-21-2018, 07:03 PM

After so many seasons of being down, it's awesome to finally see them do well.

Kent Clements

10-22-2018, 08:16 AM

Bring on the Pack. Just enjoying the ride the Rams are on :)!

goodole13

10-22-2018, 09:08 AM

Next two weeks are huge. Potential home field advantage in the playoffs on the line.

Kent Clements

10-31-2018, 02:03 PM

Bring on the Saints !! Possible NFC Championship preview this weekend.

goodole13

10-31-2018, 09:38 PM

HUGE game this weekend. Old NFC West rivalry, too. I look forward to watching.

starfox

10-31-2018, 09:41 PM

Donald and Suh will free up Fowler, Jr. Sack fest.

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JWBlue

10-31-2018, 10:17 PM

Saints are soooo good and are at home.

Can the Rams stop the run?

ninjacookies

10-31-2018, 10:29 PM

BET THE OVER.

Obviously.

Kent Clements

11-07-2018, 01:12 PM

Disappointed in Saints game (especially the fake fieldgoal job...err spot). Time to start another winning streak :)!

JWBlue

11-12-2018, 12:12 AM

Looks like Kupp might be done for the season. I think we can survive the loss though with the tight ends stepping up lately in the pass game.

Looking forward to next week.

jdandns

11-12-2018, 01:21 PM

Very bummed about Kupp, but he'd been taking a beating all season.
Hopefully, he'll heal up thoroughly, the ACL and whatever else, and come back strong next year.

Kent Clements

11-12-2018, 07:41 PM

Bring on the CHEFS !!! Clinch playoff bid with win :)!

goodole13

11-12-2018, 10:48 PM

Bring on the CHEFS !!! Clinch playoff bid with win :)!

With a win AND Seattle loss.

goodole13

11-13-2018, 06:49 PM

Rams Chiefs game will be played in LA due to stadium issues in Mexico City. With a Rams win and a Seahawks loss, the Rams would win the NFC West. Thus securing a playoff spot.

jdandns

11-13-2018, 11:34 PM

Yeah, apparently there was a giant benefit concert held in the stadium that absolutely destroyed the field. Would've been a great showcase of the game down Mexico way with these two quality teams going at it, but the right decision was made. Can't risk the players getting hurt...

goodole13

11-15-2018, 11:19 PM

With the Seahawks winning tonight, the Rans will not be able to clinch the NFC West on Monday night.

goodole13

11-20-2018, 07:23 AM

Definitely lived up to the hype. Aaron Donald is worth every penny.

Kent Clements

11-20-2018, 11:14 AM

Glad the Rams are on their bye this week.After last nights game,I don't know if my heart can take it :D

thenwhatjk

11-20-2018, 02:58 PM

Which of these Goff autos do you peel off first/has the least upside

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rainmaker

11-20-2018, 03:10 PM

seeking immediate profit or just trimming the pc? if profit i would sell the psa 10s if trimming i would keep the psa 10s. smart time to sell either way.

jdandns

11-20-2018, 06:17 PM

Definitely lived up to the hype. Aaron Donald is worth every penny.

Samson was pretty great, too. Aaron has the "L.T. (or Mike Singletary) effect", by which I mean he makes every one around him better.

Love it that the Rams are now 10-1 and this thread doesn't even have 70 posts yet. Laid back fans, to say the least...

deemsterz33

11-20-2018, 06:37 PM

Kent Clements

11-26-2018, 03:52 PM

Its coming down the stretch. Will Rams continue to dominate?Talib will be back.Lions this week !!

goodole13

11-28-2018, 09:44 AM

Rams clinch the NFC West with one more win.

goodole13

12-02-2018, 04:16 PM

And the Rams are NFC West champs! Of course, that clinches them a playoff spot.

Kent Clements

12-03-2018, 05:15 PM

Win this week against Bears and they clinch first round bye :)

Kent Clements

12-23-2018, 09:16 PM

12-3 !!! Playoffs around the corner :)!

jdandns

12-23-2018, 11:14 PM

Feels pretty good!

167 yard game for C.J. in for Gurley today, and Donald now has a good chance at the season sack record. A strong finish next Sunday and LA will be able take a week off to get everyone right. Then, if someone can knock off New Orleans and the Rams can win their divisional game, LA could still host the NFC title game.

jdandns

12-31-2018, 04:11 PM

Solid finish, 13-3, tied with the Saints for the best record in football.

Jared Goff completed about 65% of his passed for 4,688 yards and 32 TD (12 picks) for a QB rating of 101.1, a Top 8 finish.
Donald with 20.5 sacks, and a likely DPOY award.
Gurley with 1,251 rushing yard in 14 games, finishing 3rd in the NFL.

The team has earned a week off, and hopefully will come back strong for the Divisional round.
Looking forward to having Gurley AND Anderson in the backfield.

starfox

12-31-2018, 04:19 PM

jdandns

01-12-2019, 10:54 PM

Can this team advance, up 15 at home with only 6 minutes left, and with a well-rested defense?
If so, McVay breaks John Madden's record as youngest head coach to win a playoff game.

Looking forward to having Gurley AND Anderson in the backfield.

No matter what, these two couldn't have done better.

jdandns

01-12-2019, 11:34 PM

Big win.
14-3

Two more for the title.

Looking forward to seeing what Anderson adds to the team they didn't have when they lost to the Saints or the Eagles, both of whom LA lost to without him.

Kent Clements

01-13-2019, 02:22 PM

Dominating play by both lines against the Boys !! It was nice to watch.

goodole13

01-13-2019, 02:29 PM

Pulling for the Eagles so the Rams can host.

jdandns

01-20-2019, 06:14 PM

Gotta shot...

jdandns

01-20-2019, 06:24 PM

Super Bowl bound, gentlemen.

I hope it's the Patriots.

Dodgerfan74

01-20-2019, 07:13 PM

Rams!
Goff is the real deal
McVay
Go Rams!

goodole13

01-20-2019, 07:16 PM

Super Bowl bound, gentlemen.

I hope it's the Patriots.

I agree! The Patriots dynasty started after they beat the heavily favored Rams. Let’s have this Rams team end the dynasty and send Brady into retirement. I know Brady may not retire, but you all know what I mean haha.

Go RAMS!

tjforce

01-20-2019, 07:19 PM

Thousand Oaks Rams...

SUPER BOWL BOUND!

jdandns

01-20-2019, 07:48 PM

Enjoyed watching the local LA postgame show and sharing this win with Vince Ferragamo who did everything he could in 1979 only to come up a half-short of upending the Pittsburgh dynasty, against all odds.

The St. Louis title with Warner and Faulk will always be close to my heart, but here's a chance for the LOS ANGELES RAMS to claim a Super Bowl. I feel like they've got a good shot.

15 wins.
1 to go.

Dodgerfan74

01-20-2019, 07:51 PM

Los Angeles Colosseum Rams waiting for their new stadium. lol
I was a Rams fan in 70s & 80s. They moved in early 90s to St.Loius, because of the nasty lady owner who killed her husband. I refused to root for them. I promised myself I wouldn't root for a NFL team until a team came back to LA. The Rams came back. ��

jdandns

01-20-2019, 07:53 PM

Just heard Sean McVay say the only Super Bowl he ever attended was the Rams win over the Titans in Atlanta. 20 years later and he's taking the same team there as coach. What are the chances?

Kent Clements

01-20-2019, 08:30 PM

Happy for the team and all their fans !!!!! Superbowl here we come :flex:

jdandns

01-20-2019, 08:38 PM

When the Rams left Cleveland for LA, they won the title in their 6th season in LA.
When the Rams left LA for St. Louis, they won the title in their 5th season in St. Lou
This is the Rams 3rd season since leaving St. Louis, and already a chance to better the above by several seasons.
Should the Rams win the Championship this year, they should immediately announce plans to relocate from Los Angeles, haha.

goodole13

01-20-2019, 08:49 PM

BostonNut

01-20-2019, 08:50 PM

Congrats Rams fans! Very exciting team to watch!

Peties Army

01-20-2019, 08:52 PM

Congrats Rams fans! Very exciting team to watch!

Really? Cause they have been pretty ugly to watch for a few months now.

As a St. Louis fan I would like to see the few guys remaining get a ring but Stan is a pretty crappy human, so he can die

goodole13

01-20-2019, 09:06 PM

Really? Cause they have been pretty ugly to watch for a few months now.

As a St. Louis fan I would like to see the few guys remaining get a ring but Stan is a pretty crappy human, so he can die

He brought the Rams back home, so I’m okay with Stan.

Peties Army

01-20-2019, 09:14 PM

He brought the Rams back home, so I’m okay with Stan.

He took them to Cleveland?

I hope he dies a very slow death.

goodole13

01-20-2019, 09:26 PM

He took them to Cleveland?

I hope he dies a very slow death.

I knew you would say that. Considering they were in Cleveland for only 9 years and were/have been in LA for 53 years; yeah, he brought them back home :).

Peties Army

01-20-2019, 09:33 PM

I knew you would say that. Considering they were in Cleveland for only 9 years and were/have been in LA for 53 years; yeah, he brought them back home :).

Again, Cleveland would be home. If you want to say their second home, you’re right, he was able to bring them back to their second home.

And either way, he is a horrible person who I hope get ran over by a car

jdandns

01-20-2019, 09:37 PM

Just be glad you had 'em at all.
You should be madder at whoever took the Cardinals to Arizona.

goodole13

01-20-2019, 09:38 PM

Again, Cleveland would be home. If you want to say their second home, you’re right, he was able to bring them back to their second home.

And either way, he is a horrible person who I hope get ran over by a car

That’s cool, I’m just happy to have the Rams back home! Go Rams.

Peties Army

01-20-2019, 10:05 PM

Just be glad you had 'em at all.
You should be madder at whoever took the Cardinals to Arizona.

No St Louis screwed that one up.

And the Bidwells always wanted to be here

Peties Army

01-20-2019, 10:05 PM

That’s cool, I’m just happy to have the Rams back home! Go Rams.

#SecondHome

#SloppySeconds

goodole13

01-20-2019, 10:07 PM

#SecondHome

#SloppySeconds

You can hashtag all you want, the Rams are back home where they belong.

Peties Army

01-20-2019, 10:10 PM

You can hashtag all you want, the Rams are back home where they belong.

Second home.

goodole13

01-20-2019, 10:21 PM

Rams Patriots Super Bowl! Time for the LOS ANGELES RAMS to end the Patriots dynasty.

Peties Army

01-20-2019, 10:22 PM

Rams Patriots Super Bowl! Time for the LOS ANGELES RAMS to end the Patriots dynasty.

Should be interesting.

goodole13

01-20-2019, 10:23 PM

Should be interesting.

Definitely should be. Lost of story lines.

Peties Army

01-20-2019, 10:25 PM

Definitely should be. Lost of story lines.

I think main one will be “Best young coach in NFL vs greatest ever”. I think that will get shoved down our throats for 2 weeks

Dodgerfan74

01-20-2019, 10:30 PM

Peties Army- you have an anger issue you might want to address.

jdandns

01-20-2019, 10:34 PM

I think main one will be “Best young coach in NFL vs greatest ever”. I think that will get shoved down our throats for 2 weeks

Along with a bunch of other stuff. I've learned to hardly watch any of it.
Every season after the conference championships, I don't tune back in until about an hour before SB gametime.

Peties Army

01-20-2019, 10:35 PM

Peties Army- you have an anger issue you might want to address.

What anger did I show?

Stan is an awful person, do some research it’s not an opinion, it’s a fact. I get you guys like him cause he brought the rams home* but he is not a good guy.

*Second Home

Peties Army

01-20-2019, 10:36 PM

Along with a bunch of other stuff. I've learned to hardly watch any of it.
Every season after the conference championships, I don't tune back in until about an hour before SB gametime.

2 weeks is a long time.

jdandns

01-20-2019, 10:37 PM

Yeah, but there's lotsa other stuff to do.

Peties Army

01-20-2019, 10:39 PM

Yeah, but there's lotsa other stuff to do.

I wish they would do something different with the pro bowl.

goodole13

01-20-2019, 10:52 PM

I think main one will be “Best young coach in NFL vs greatest ever”. I think that will get shoved down our throats for 2 weeks

That one, along with young up and coming first time SB QB vs veteran multiple SB appearances GOAT. Also, the whole spy gate from the first super bowl meeting between the teams, plus just it being a SB rematch. The Pats beat the Rams to start their dynasty, I’m hoping the Rams put an end to it.

Peties Army

01-20-2019, 10:56 PM

That one, along with young up and coming first time SB QB vs veteran multiple SB appearances GOAT. Also, the whole spy gate from the first super bowl meeting between the teams, plus just it being a SB rematch. The Pats beat the Rams to start their dynasty, I’m hoping the Rams put an end to it.

I dont think that’s going to be pushed. Not think NFL is going to want a lot of STL mentioned and the cheating thing. It will be discouraged

goodole13

01-20-2019, 11:05 PM

I dont think that’s going to be pushed. Not think NFL is going to want a lot of STL mentioned and the cheating thing. It will be discouraged

Ahhhh yeah, good point. So yours regarding the coaches, and im thinking the QBs, too, up and comer v. the GOAT. Although Goff hasn’t been as good as he was early on in the season.

Peties Army

01-20-2019, 11:35 PM

Ahhhh yeah, good point. So yours regarding the coaches, and im thinking the QBs, too, up and comer v. the GOAT. Although Goff hasn’t been as good as he was early on in the season.

Oh I think QBs will be big too.

Plus pats RB(Michel?sp) was gurleys backup At Ga, thst will be a big one

goodole13

01-23-2019, 08:39 PM

I don't know about all of you, but I'm really excited the Rams are wearing their throwbacks for the Super Bowl.

Mr monty monty

01-25-2019, 11:46 AM

Rams fans we in good shape long as Goff puts the ball in front of Josh Reynolds #83 Go! RAMS

goodole13

01-25-2019, 12:06 PM

Rams fans we in good shape long as Goff puts the ball in front of Josh Reynolds #83 Go! RAMS

He wouldn’t be my first option...Or second or third, for that matter. But I hope he plays well and makes some big catches.

jdandns

02-03-2019, 09:54 PM

In a tough spot now, no doubt about it...

jdandns

02-03-2019, 10:08 PM

Still a great season at 15-4.
Congrats to the Patriots.
Back at it next year, fellow Rams fans.
This is obviously a solid foundation to keep building on.

goodole13

02-03-2019, 11:17 PM

I was proud of the defense, they played well enough to win, no doubt. The Rams’ offense and the offensive coaches should be embarrassed. They had two weeks to prep and they only scored 3 points.

RW3FAN

02-03-2019, 11:34 PM

3 points
That’s some high powered offense.

jdandns

02-04-2019, 12:23 PM

I don't usually like what-ifs, but Cooks dropped the tying touchdown late in the 4th quarter. He holds on to that pass, could be a totally different story today.

That said, hats off to the Patriots defense. This game and the one at Chicago were the only times all season the Rams offense reminded me of the ones they fielded these last 10 to 15 years in the desert, and the Bears had the benefit of the cold to aid in their domination. (I think that game may also be when Gurley got the injury he obviously never fully recovered from).

While the crowd noise yesterday was certainly advantage-Patriots, after what LA went through in New Orleans in the Championship game, it can't have been that bad for the Rams, although I think they did commit something like 4-5 pre-snap penalties, which is inexcusable in a game of this magnitude. Again, credit the seasoned Patriots defense coupled with the inexperience of the Rams offense playing at this level.

Oh well, what's done is done. Back at it 2019, with hopefully a better result.