Opulence Basketball

[jon4035]

What are the pre-release ideas of this product? Going to be overpriced mix of Gold Standard and Preferred or a new high product that holds up to the price tag?

[Pathora]

I think its going to be a disaster personally, hardly any Gold Standard cards or Preferred booklets in the past offered up a 1k+ value so I see this stuff dropping off, maybe they'll surprise me though. Are group breakers really going to spend 100+ dollars for random team or bare minimum $50 for lower tier teams that's really tough.

[dasiegel]

Yup to the question above. It will be a monster and group breakers dream.

[yaoming]

It will tank
We shall see


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[Ferg1945]

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[smalltown]

I don't think this is going to do all that well. Breakers will love it. But how long will people be fooled into paying 5x the price for gold standard with booklets.

[splum]

I think it depends. If you actually like basketball, you can't help but be lured in by the chase for finals memorabilia and the team USA cards. If you don't, you join the "I'm too good for this product" club that dominates every thread about a new product that is 3+ months away.

[smalltown]

I think it depends. If you actually like basketball, you can't help but be lured in by the chase for finals memorabilia and the team USA cards. If you don't, you join the "I'm too good for this product" club that dominates every thread about a new product that is 3+ months away.

Nah. I love basketball. To me it's not a matter of "I'm too good for this product". It's a matter of the price point looks waaaayyyy off to me. I'm sure some people will love it. I'm sure it'll even produce some good cards. But i Panini is hoping to pull the wool over peoples eyes here - getting them to buy a product they haven't wanted for the last few years (GS) and pay 5x the money for it. I think most collectors will hold off. But i could be very wrong.

[DajuanWagner]

They should call it "Flatulence"...……….

[splum]

Nah. I love basketball. To me it's not a matter of "I'm too good for this product". It's a matter of the price point looks waaaayyyy off to me. I'm sure some people will love it. I'm sure it'll even produce some good cards. But i Panini is hoping to pull the wool over peoples eyes here - getting them to buy a product they haven't wanted for the last few years (GS) and pay 5x the money for it. I think most collectors will hold off. But i could be very wrong.

I didn't mean you specifically, was just replying to OP when they asked what the general sentiment on the boards was. I follow your g-leaguer instagram, I know you're in it for the long haul. I mean the 90s dudes that show up every BlowoutBuzz post and say "well it looks like Horace Grant isn't in this product. Panini won't be getting any of MY money!!!" That kind of garbage.

[smalltown]

I didn't mean you specifically, was just replying to OP when they asked what the general sentiment on the boards was. I follow your g-leaguer instagram, I know you're in it for the long haul. I mean the 90s dudes that show up every BlowoutBuzz post and say "well it looks like Horace Grant isn't in this product. Panini won't be getting any of MY money!!!" That kind of garbage.

It's all good. Just clarifying my stance on the product. I know my neighbour is all in on this stuff. But he loved GS and money is never an issue. He's ordered 3 cases - hoping he lets me sit through the break so i can see first hand.

[dcarado]

There will be enough "big" hits to keep group-breakers busy (unlike Vanguard :doh:) but in the long run I don't see enough secondary value in the rookie stuff to maintain even 75% of the price. Some of the patch books will get stupid money out of the gate though.

[danimal875]

Group break product 100%. Should be some good hits though, If it drops 40-50% by next Black Friday, I may crack a box or 2.

[jon4035]

Thanks for the thoughts, the RPAs are supposedly limited to 79 copies....I think if they only do one version of the RPA at 79 copies and not multiple color versions, these will be desirable and could drive the product.

[dcarado]

Thanks for the thoughts, the RPAs are supposedly limited to 79 copies....I think if they only do one version of the RPA at 79 copies and not multiple color versions, these will be desirable and could drive the product.

Scarcity doesn't matter IMO (see 17/18 prizm silvers). The brand is going to have to catch on for them to be any different than Noir, Doninion, etc.

[Boldstar6]

so how much will Cavs and Warriors gonna be in PYTs?

[Ewing8888]

I was all set to buy this but now I'm on the fence. I'm leaning towards buying a nice Steph RC card or even a Tatum with the $ I was going to spend on this.

[Bruin7]

Will most likely pick up some RPAs but none of the booklet cards; can't stand them personally.

ACS

[dasiegel]

Scarcity is absolutely a huge reason this will do well. Go to ebay. There are only 9 people with a listing.

Those who go through distributors were told this was harder to get than pretty much anything this year. Maybe Flawless is more scarce?

So what does that mean? That means all the breakers (who I'm sure were able to get like 20 cases of this stuff) will be filling the breaks EASILY. Take any of their usual customers, add guys who only do the Immac/NT/Flawless level stuff, then add the guys who are praying for a chance at the Finals booklets, USA cards etc. It's a money maker for them and they will buy every last case because all they have to do is adjust the price point for their spots and it barely matter what they paid for it.

So breakers will be good, which means wholesellers will be good.

Then look at any comments about this stuff. "I'm not touching any boxes but I'll pick up some singles" type comments. So there will be nice singles on ebay. It's high end enough to be out of the Gold Standard/Preferred/Spectra price point.

All in all, that smells winning product for Panini.

[vikdugg55]

lol @ at 90% of breakers prices on this product.

[splum]

lol @ at 90% of breakers prices on this product.

I'm searching but can't really find anything. They can probably charge whatever they want for Cavs and Warriors right?

[smalltown]

lol @ at 90% of breakers prices on this product.

Ya. Breakers are pricing things out at about $5000 a case when totalled up by team. It's pretty crazy.

[dasiegel]

I'm searching but can't really find anything. They can probably charge whatever they want for Cavs and Warriors right?

And Celtics, Jazz plus a ton for Sixers, Mavs, Lakers and Kings. The "steals" of these breaks will be that next tier of top RCs, Magic, Hawks, Hornets, Raptors etc. Top teams like Celtics are $600 a spot, low spots are $65-70.

[splum]

And Celtics, Jazz plus a ton for Sixers, Mavs, Lakers and Kings. The "steals" of these breaks will be that next tier of top RCs, Magic, Hawks, Hornets, Raptors etc. Top teams like Celtics are $600 a spot, low spots are $65-70.

Yikes. I totally get why but it feels like you're almost better off biting the bullet and springing for a personal box if that's the price doesn't it?

[dasiegel]

Ya. Breakers are pricing things out at about $5000 a case when totalled up by team. It's pretty crazy.

So think about what I'm saying if this is the case. Prices on ebay are like $3200-3800 a case right? Which incidentally is a weird range, lol. BO is at $3500. Why wouldn't a breaker buy every single one if they can sell at $5000!?

[dasiegel]

Yikes. I totally get why but it feels like you're almost better off biting the bullet and springing for a personal box if that's the price doesn't it?

And that is why this will sell. Because eventually there will be no single boxes or case and eventually if there are the price point will be too high and the scarcity will drive gamblers to the breaks. In my opinion anyway. But we have seen this before with Flawless and certain years of NT.

[vikdugg55]

So think about what I'm saying if this is the case. Prices on ebay are like $3200-3800 a case right? Which incidentally is a weird range, lol. BO is at $3500. Why wouldn't a breaker buy every single one if they can sell at $5000!?

I dont know whats worse.
Breakers over charging or the people buying into the breaks.
It hurts my soul.

[smalltown]

So think about what I'm saying if this is the case. Prices on ebay are like $3200-3800 a case right? Which incidentally is a weird range, lol. BO is at $3500. Why wouldn't a breaker buy every single one if they can sell at $5000!?

They will. They won't sell at $5000 (fillers and discounts). But still. They love products like this. 10 minutes to break. Little to mail out.

Another thing that scares me about this product is while they mention two "on card" sets they don't say the whole product is on card. I hope it's not as heavy on stickers as GS was. People are going to be very butt hurt when they drop $600 on the Celtics and get a Semi Ojeleye sticker.

[Orangejello727]

So think about what I'm saying if this is the case. Prices on ebay are like $3200-3800 a case right? Which incidentally is a weird range, lol. BO is at $3500. Why wouldn't a breaker buy every single one if they can sell at $5000!?

Because as $3500 a case on BO to them selling it at $5k by the PYTs, there isnt enough margin for them. Sounds crazy, but I think thats why. THey get it cheaper than BO's retail price. They probably need to run 250% margins in order to purchase a product to break for customers. Im just taking a stab at this. I mean once you figure in their shipping/sorting and overhead, they probably need to make more than double what they purchase their product at.

[smalltown]

I mean once you figure in their shipping/sorting and overhead, they probably need to make more than double what they purchase their product at.

Shipping and sorting overhead is much much lower on products like this than say prizm. It's why breakers love them so much.

[dasiegel]

I dont know whats worse.
Breakers over charging or the people buying into the breaks.
It hurts my soul.

Well I know for sure a few breakers read these posts and I'm don't believe that they are evil people. I think they found a niche and do much more work during the Certified, Ascension, Donruss, Optic Fastbreak type breaks and live for these high end releases.

I am not anti breaker. I am (and have had conversations with many BO members who agree) angry that they get treated extra specially by the distributors. They tend to buy A LOT the product if they have enough of a following so the distributors take care of them.

Which is fine. But makes people angry when their own brick and mortar store, who everyone claims (from manufacturers to distributors) we have to protect, end up with only 1 case or less of a top tier product.

Would breakers they even run the breaks if they had to lay out a ton of money like $3200 and only charged like $3600? They have to do the work on the videos, packaging, etc? IDK the answer but I think all breakers and LCS usually try to hit homeruns on the high end.

That is why guys like Riverside Dave Denbo, RIP were such gems for the hobby. They made their money but treated the customer with the respect not to gauge their eyeballs out!

[Orangejello727]

Shipping and sorting overhead is much much lower on products like this than say prizm. It's why breakers love them so much.

For sure. But thats not a good enough reason for them to drop their prices. They average out the products especially the ones that ship for free. Bowman probably runs them a lot more while products like this run them a lot less. Since shipping is free with most breakers (included in the price of a spot), they essentially average it out. No reason to discount a price of a single product because there are less cards.

[smalltown]

For sure. But thats not a good enough reason for them to drop their prices. They average out the products especially the ones that ship for free. Bowman probably runs them a lot more while products like this run them a lot less. Since shipping is free with most breakers (included in the price of a spot), they essentially average it out. No reason to discount a price of a single product because there are less cards.

Oh don't get me wrong. Not suggesting They should drop their prices. They can charge what ever the h=ll they want. And if people buy it - more power to them.

Just pointing out how off the value is for someone who buys into these breaks. likely better off buying a box than buying a high priced team in two breaks.

[dasiegel]

They will. They won't sell at $5000 (fillers and discounts). But still. They love products like this. 10 minutes to break. Little to mail out.

Another thing that scares me about this product is while they mention two "on card" sets they don't say the whole product is on card. I hope it's not as heavy on stickers as GS was. People are going to be very butt hurt when they drop $600 on the Celtics and get a Semi Ojeleye sticker.

Yea that is scary. There should be zero stickers in this stuff.

Because as $3500 a case on BO to them selling it at $5k by the PYTs, there isnt enough margin for them. Sounds crazy, but I think thats why. THey get it cheaper than BO's retail price. They probably need to run 250% margins in order to purchase a product to break for customers. Im just taking a stab at this. I mean once you figure in their shipping/sorting and overhead, they probably need to make more than double what they purchase their product at.

Yea I hear you and it's a fair point. Like smalltown said it's easier on higher end with fewer cards but they need these margins on the high end for sure. And look it's a business, if the customers are willing to pay, it is what it is. I have probably done 5-6 breaks in my life. I never pulled a monster but hit some ok stuff. I have also been shutout. It's not for me. But it's a huge part of the hobby. It's here to stay although I think over time it will become a little lighter. Baseball and basketball in particular have had some monster classes so breaking is gonna be very tempting for gamblers.

[Orangejello727]

Well I know for sure a few breakers read these posts and I'm don't believe that they are evil people. I think they found a niche and do much more work during the Certified, Ascension, Donruss, Optic Fastbreak type breaks and live for these high end releases.

I am not anti breaker. I am (and have had conversations with many BO members who agree) angry that they get treated extra specially by the distributors. They tend to buy A LOT the product if they have enough of a following so the distributors take care of them.

Which is fine. But makes people angry when their own brick and mortar store, who everyone claims (from manufacturers to distributors) we have to protect, end up with only 1 case or less of a top tier product.

Would breakers they even run the breaks if they had to lay out a ton of money like $3200 and only charged like $3600? They have to do the work on the videos, packaging, etc? IDK the answer but I think all breakers and LCS usually try to hit homeruns on the high end.

That is why guys like Riverside Dave Denbo, RIP were such gems for the hobby. They made their money but treated the customer with the respect not to gauge their eyeballs out!

This is capitalism at work. The best part of it all is the choice everyone has. Asking someone to "Cap" how much profit they make because it feels like gouging doesnt work in such a system.

[Orangejello727]

Yea I hear you and it's a fair point. Like smalltown said it's easier on higher end with fewer cards but they need these margins on the high end for sure. And look it's a business, if the customers are willing to pay, it is what it is. I have probably done 5-6 breaks in my life. I never pulled a monster but hit some ok stuff. I have also been shutout. It's not for me. But it's a huge part of the hobby. It's here to stay although I think over time it will become a little lighter. Baseball and basketball in particular have had some monster classes so breaking is gonna be very tempting for gamblers.


I buy into breaks all the time. I have to. I dont have any other avenues locally to purchase product. I cant have it shipped from BO because customs/duties kills the prices along with the heavy handed shipping costs. Even if I go to wholesaler with a HST permit, they refuse to sell me the product telling me its allocated and none available. There are no retail stores around here selling any sports cards. My only option is breakers. That being said, I am willing to bet that there are a ton of people out there just like the situation I am in. Online breaks are my only choice.

[dasiegel]

This is capitalism at work. The best part of it all is the choice everyone has. Asking someone to "Cap" how much profit they make because it feels like gouging doesnt work in such a system.

Yea and I was talking about this with another BO member recently. People don't like people who question these things.

If a breaker reads my posts on this stuff I'm they are like like F him, F smalltown, orangejello etc. But the reality is that it's like hating on Walmart or Apple.

They found a way to taking breaking product which was always a risk reward/gamble and mix it with youtube/video, make it fun and find a way to make profit. I am genuinely happy for them. I do not "hate" on things like that.

But I also am going to say how I feel and I feel that because breaking got so big, there are about 10 breakers who get a ton of product and a lot of store owners who are like WTF, what about me!? I thought you guys cared about me? What about my 25 years of loyalty? What about all those garbage years of buying junk wax and Yu-Gi-Oh cards? What about Panini trying to "protect" us?

And what I have learned because I am, interested in the business side and have talked to a lot of distributor reps, breakers, dealers is that the big breakers are buying from a ton of distributors and buying a ton of product because they know they will fill and/or make money on these breaks, and it pays to support them. Simple as that.

That means that if you are not a store, are newer to the market or just a regular collector/hobby guy, you will not get high end unless you buy from a wholesale store or pay prices that are very high, it just is what it is.

[smalltown]

F smalltown

Hey F you! :D :)!

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I'm trying to come at this from a product point of view. I don't think it's going to be a good one, especially, at price point. Preferred wasn't a good product either but people still wanted The Finals books and Silos. So while i think the Finals books will still be huge i'm not sure they'll be enough to sustain this product.

[dasiegel]

I buy into breaks all the time. I have to. I dont have any other avenues locally to purchase product. I cant have it shipped from BO because customs/duties kills the prices along with the heavy handed shipping costs. Even if I go to wholesaler with a HST permit, they refuse to sell me the product telling me its allocated and none available. There are no retail stores around here selling any sports cards. My only option is breakers. That being said, I am willing to bet that there are a ton of people out there just like the situation I am in. Online breaks are my only choice.

Yea and that is why it is great that there is that channel to get in breaks. Isn't it the same thing though to get into a break and have to deal with the shipping/customs/costs vs buying a box?

[dasiegel]

I buy into breaks all the time. I have to. I dont have any other avenues locally to purchase product. I cant have it shipped from BO because customs/duties kills the prices along with the heavy handed shipping costs. Even if I go to wholesaler with a HST permit, they refuse to sell me the product telling me its allocated and none available. There are no retail stores around here selling any sports cards. My only option is breakers. That being said, I am willing to bet that there are a ton of people out there just like the situation I am in. Online breaks are my only choice.

Hey F you! :D :)!

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I'm trying to come at this from a product point of view. I don't think it's going to be a good one, especially, at price point. Preferred wasn't a good product either but people still wanted The Finals books and Silos. So while i think the Finals books will still be huge i'm not sure they'll be enough to sustain this product.

I guess we are talking about 2 different things. I think this will be a success as far as it will sell out, breaks will fill, it will be impossible to get a box especially as time goes on last year's draft class become stars. I think player collectors on non superstars will find affordable singles at auction on ebay and here.

Will it hold value? Probably not unless you hit a monster. RPAs should be higher than Immac and notably lower than NT.

Finals booklets weren't enough to sustain Preferred bc the rest of the product was trash which is why I think they scrapped that, pumped up Crown for mid end with Silhouettes and this for huge chases.

ALSO F U, jk;)

[smalltown]

RPAs should be higher than Immac and notably lower than NT.

Do you think? I feel like it'll be more in line with Impeccable/Noir despite the higher cost.

[Orangejello727]

Yea and that is why it is great that there is that channel to get in breaks. Isn't it the same thing though to get into a break and have to deal with the shipping/customs/costs vs buying a box?

The places I break at have shipping included in their prices. At the very least I know exactly what im paying for what I am getting or not getting.

I would buy wax from BO or any online retailer, but all of them are in the US and I cannot stomach the shipping charges let alone the duties/customs garbage I have to go through. Ill give you an example..

I bought a case of Goodwin last year for $1300 US. I had it shipped to me at a cost of $90 US. It was heavy so the shipper sent it UPS Ground. Ends up at the border for customs and duties. A third party company out of Montreal expedites packages so they charged me..

$280 is Duties (US Prices converterd to CDN then applicable HST).
$56 for them to expedite it on my behalf
$44 surcharge for having it parceled back to Toronto (Heavy load charge).

Total: $1675 US to get it to my front door. THe next week I had Steve at Alltar cards break me a 16 box case online for $1328 US and ship me just the hits I want.

[kobemagee29]

The places I break at have shipping included in their prices. At the very least I know exactly what im paying for what I am getting or not getting.

I would buy wax from BO or any online retailer, but all of them are in the US and I cannot stomach the shipping charges let alone the duties/customs garbage I have to go through. Ill give you an example..

I bought a case of Goodwin last year for $1300 US. I had it shipped to me at a cost of $90 US. It was heavy so the shipper sent it UPS Ground. Ends up at the border for customs and duties. A third party company out of Montreal expedites packages so they charged me..

$280 is Duties (US Prices converterd to CDN then applicable HST).
$56 for them to expedite it on my behalf
$44 surcharge for having it parceled back to Toronto (Heavy load charge).

Total: $1675 US to get it to my front door. THe next week I had Steve at Alltar cards break me a 16 box case online for $1328 US and ship me just the hits I want.
To each there own, but if I'm paying money for a case, or even a box, I'm busting it myself. To me, that's the fun of it.
This may be a stretch, but to me it's like paying the neighbor to take care of your wife,

[Bruin7]

In general pretty disappointing numbers for RPAs from Noir, Dominion, Crown, Vanguard. Hoping these RPAs are different.

ACS

[jon4035]

And Celtics, Jazz plus a ton for Sixers, Mavs, Lakers and Kings. The "steals" of these breaks will be that next tier of top RCs, Magic, Hawks, Hornets, Raptors etc. Top teams like Celtics are $600 a spot, low spots are $65-70.

Where do you see Celtics at $600/spot? I saw at $399 so far.

[Miz]

Is there a checklist?

[dasiegel]

Do you think? I feel like it'll be more in line with Impeccable/Noir despite the higher cost.

I think Immaculate is going the way of old yeller, lol. Distributor cost $340, wholeseller price $590. Great rookie class, sells out, relists at $650-700? Yet (non acetate rpa, non monster) huge hits can't pay for a box? I think collectors are learning that immaculate is a bad investment. It is again, good for breakers but I know a lot of people are passing or selling their boxes sealed.

Devin Booker Noir $250-350, Devin Booker Immaculate $700-750, Devin Booker NT (really patch sensitive but) min $2500-3k. Yet boxes for Immaculate are close to NT these days on release.

My guess is that the people busting these will not list their biggest hits at less than Immaculate prices so they will be higher than Noir by a good margin at the very least. Bigger patch windows, on card, game used, etc.

The places I break at have shipping included in their prices. At the very least I know exactly what im paying for what I am getting or not getting.

I would buy wax from BO or any online retailer, but all of them are in the US and I cannot stomach the shipping charges let alone the duties/customs garbage I have to go through. Ill give you an example..

I bought a case of Goodwin last year for $1300 US. I had it shipped to me at a cost of $90 US. It was heavy so the shipper sent it UPS Ground. Ends up at the border for customs and duties. A third party company out of Montreal expedites packages so they charged me..

$280 is Duties (US Prices converterd to CDN then applicable HST).
$56 for them to expedite it on my behalf
$44 surcharge for having it parceled back to Toronto (Heavy load charge).

Total: $1675 US to get it to my front door. THe next week I had Steve at Alltar cards break me a 16 box case online for $1328 US and ship me just the hits I want.

Wow, that sucks man. Nowhere in Canada, is there a place to get your boxes? Sounds like a great business waiting to happen with all the great Canadian collectors.

To each there own, but if I'm paying money for a case, or even a box, I'm busting it myself. To me, that's the fun of it.
This may be a stretch, but to me it's like paying the neighbor to take care of your wife,

Sounds like he doesn't have a choice. I always bust on my own (giggity).

In general pretty disappointing numbers for RPAs from Noir, Dominion, Crown, Vanguard. Hoping these RPAs are different.

ACS

I agree. I think as the high end dries up these will gain value though. The Crown, Dominion and Vanguard RPAs in personal are beautiful.

[dasiegel]

Where do you see Celtics at $600/spot? I saw at $399 so far.

https://mojobreak.com/shop/2017-18-opulence-nba-3-box-case-1/

[jon4035]

https://mojobreak.com/shop/2017-18-opulence-nba-3-box-case-1/

They are clearly price gouging...that is a total of $6,050, that should be for 2 cases...only team they are competitive with my usual breaker is the Suns

[jon4035]

They are clearly price gouging...that is a total of $6,050, that should be for 2 cases...only team they are competitive with my usual breaker is the Suns

Their prices on Immac seem high too, $2,776 for the teams left on the break I checked and Jazz, Lakers, and Suns have been sold...those 3 would easily put well over current case price of $2,950

[Orangejello727]

To each there own, but if I'm paying money for a case, or even a box, I'm busting it myself. To me, that's the fun of it.
This may be a stretch, but to me it's like paying the neighbor to take care of your wife,

So what you are saying is you rather pay $1600 to bust a case yourself than $1300 to have someone else do it??

The $300 premium is acceptable? If thats the case why even shop for best price. Just pay the most on every product

[kobemagee29]

So what you are saying is you rather pay $1600 to bust a case yourself than $1300 to have someone else do it??

The $300 premium is acceptable? If thats the case why even shop for best price. Just pay the most on every product

Didnt say i would rather pay 1600!! But I did say I'm busting my own crap, not having someone do it for me. If it's going to cost me that much more, then I dont need it that bad. Unfortunately, group breakers have brought it to this

[Orangejello727]

Didnt say i would rather pay 1600!! But I did say I'm busting my own crap, not having someone do it for me. If it's going to cost me that much more, then I dont need it that bad. Unfortunately, group breakers have brought it to this

My reason to bust wax is for the cards, not the process of opening packs and throwing the wrappers away!! :)!:)!:)!

[dasiegel]

Didnt say i would rather pay 1600!! But I did say I'm busting my own crap, not having someone do it for me. If it's going to cost me that much more, then I dont need it that bad. Unfortunately, group breakers have brought it to this

My reason to bust wax is for the cards, not the process of opening packs and throwing the wrappers away!! :)!:)!:)!

Well we are all on the same team here. Some of the options just suck for the regular consumer.

Back to Opulence, I just looked at the preview and even though many don't like Booklets the hit cards are just SICK!

These aren't the USA or the Finals patches so there are like 4 monster hits chase sets plus RPAs

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/09o9zzx2.jpg (https://sportscardalbum.com/card/09o9zzx2)

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/72670888.jpg (https://sportscardalbum.com/card/72670888)

[kobemagee29]

My reason to bust wax is for the cards, not the process of opening packs and throwing the wrappers away!! :)!:)!:)!

I collect the cards also, but half the fun of it is opening the packs. Been doing it for years. The last 10+ with my son & daughter. Cant replace that time with anything as far as my family is concerned

[Boldstar6]

https://mojobreak.com/shop/2017-18-opulence-nba-3-box-case-1/

stay away from mojobreak and boomo...

[bigbadballard]

stay away from mojobreak and boomo...

Does that boomo guy do anything other than eBay? He is quite the character. I've only watched him a couple times and one time he let out like a 30 second fart.

There are definitely better options than those two.

[derder]

They should call it "Flatulence"...……….

There ya go :D:D