Russell Wilson [/career]

[AUfanatic]

Speculators betta sell all his cards now!

[starfox]

Wilson is a very good player. This is what happens when a player can carry a bad team no more. The Seahawks don't have many good players. No quarterback has had success alone. No: not Rodgers. Not Brady. Not Elway. None of them.

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[starfox]

Wilson feels like he has to do it all. When a player feels like this, he's gonna blow it at times. You can't say he never tried, though.

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[cnewby]

It's because hes too white.

[AUfanatic]

Well, that payoff won't be coming this year or the next based on what he is doing now.

[mike1498]

Just stop. This is nonsense

This is coming from a cardinals fan but I’m not going to sit here like he isn’t a top 5 quarterback.

[titletowncards]

Wilson is a very good player. This is what happens when a player can carry a bad team no more. The Seahawks don't have many good players. No quarterback has had success alone. No: not Rodgers. Not Brady. Not Elway. None of them.

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Well he is good player. But Wilson will never be in the same conversation as any of those 3 QB's.

[49erRCCollector]

Just stop. This is nonsense

This is coming from a cardinals fan but I’m not going to sit here like he isn’t a top 5 quarterback.

I would not call him a top 5 QB. Top 10, yes.

[starfox]

Well he is good player. But Wilson will never be in the same conversation as any of those 3 QB's.If those quarterbacks didn't do it all, Wilson can't. Wilson is still very good, even though he's not better than the aforementioned quarterbacks. Almost no one on that team has an impact on pulling out a win, but Wilson.

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[Seahawks fan]

When your Oline the last 2 seasons ranked dead last and 26th in the league in salary you know they are bad..Hawks just need to spend some money on protection or get a running back like Lynch who can get hit behind the line and still get yardage... But I wouldn't put too much into these losses as they were on the road, had injuries galore, no oline and they still only lost by 1 score in both games.

[49erRCCollector]

When your Oline the last 2 seasons ranked dead last and 26th in the league in salary you know they are bad..Hawks just need to spend some money on protection or get a running back like Lynch who can get hit behind the line and still get yardage... But I wouldn't put too much into these losses as they were on the road, had injuries galore, no oline and they still only lost by 1 score in both games.

Honestly. I would be worried. They didn’t have 100 yards of offense until the 4th quarter, right? And that’s with the D gifting them 2 opportunities from the ints... there’s trouble in Seattle.

[IronMonkey415]

The poor kid can’t do it all.

Like today at the ballpark playing b-ball. My team depended on me to hit 3 pointers consecutively to help them win. I couldn’t do it. 6 is the max, my arms get tired and can’t shoot anymore after that.

I like to add stories of my life

[starfox]

Lol.The poor kid can’t do it all.

Like today at the ballpark playing b-ball. My team depended on me to hit 3 pointers consecutively to help them win. I couldn’t do it. 6 is the max, my arms get tired and can’t shoot anymore after that.

I like to add stories of my life

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[ILOVEBEER]

Good QB on a declining team. The defense isn't even close to what it once was. Richard Sherman is gone as well. Probably won't sniff another SB. Great run for the hobby though.

[ninjacookies]

Just stop. This is nonsense

This is coming from a cardinals fan but I’m not going to sit here like he isn’t a top 5 quarterback.

Seahawks diehard, and I'd say top 5 is a stretch.

Starfox hit the nail though. Unless your last name is Brady, Rodgers, or Brees...you're most likely not going to thrive if you have a non existent Oline and zero weapons.

Carson is their starting RB and he is a fringe starter anywhere else in the league.

The top receiving threat Baldwin is most likely out for the year.

It's not Brandon Marshall and some dude named Dissly(sp?).


He's trying his best, but he gets zero protection and is surrounded by mediocrity. It is what it is. Hopefully we tank and get some draft picks and actually spend sizable funds where it's actually needed: OT's.

[coltsnsox07]

I took him in fantasy, I thought I'd see more of those fake the hand off and take off running with the ball kinda option plays.

[Seahawks fan]

Honestly. I would be worried. They didn’t have 100 yards of offense until the 4th quarter, right? And that’s with the D gifting them 2 opportunities from the ints... there’s trouble in Seattle.

Eh not worried..it's not like they are a SB team..but in the off season they cut all the bad attitudes and got way younger in the process. This is a growing year but they are still competing in close games while being on the road, desimated by injuries, and having backups galore making plays. Rams put all of their eggs into this year but are a cap casualty in 2 seasons and will be gutted that is when the Hawks should be back into the mix or the 9ers if they can draft well.

[kdailey4315]

Wilson is a very good player. This is what happens when a player can carry a bad team no more. The Seahawks don't have many good players. No quarterback has had success alone. No: not Rodgers. Not Brady. Not Elway. None of them.

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No. This is what happens when you coddle a player, call dumb ass plays in the Super Bowl so they can get MVP, and not allow your own defense to treat them like every other player at practice.

[jdandns]

I'm a lifelong Rams fan, but if LA didn't have Goff, I'd be happy to have Wilson. There is no quit in him.

[kdailey4315]

I'm a lifelong Rams fan, but if LA didn't have Goff, I'd be happy to have Wilson. There is no quit in him.

At what cost? There's a reason they have no money for their OL and the Legion of Boom has become the Legion of Who.
If you had Russell at his salary you can't sign Donald or Gurley.

[escapegoat]

I think we’re starting to see how much of an impact Scot McCloughan had on the team. He was with Seattle from ‘10-‘13. All of our current (and now departed) studs came from those draft years. After he left, the hawks have had a few good finds, but it’s been rough.

[rittdk01]

Good player, not great. Rode a defense and running game since he came in the league. He’s gonna run around and do too much until he is hurt. Seahawks are circling the drain, which was obvious all offseason.

If he wouldn’t have thrown that ball they would have two rings to show for that amazing d.

[starfox]

No. This is what happens when you coddle a player, call dumb ass plays in the Super Bowl so they can get MVP, and not allow your own defense to treat them like every other player at practice.And tell me: what have the Seahawks won before Wilson? He's been a good luck charm, if nothing else.

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[starfox]

I'm a lifelong Rams fan, but if LA didn't have Goff, I'd be happy to have Wilson. There is no quit in him.You have perspective. Very well put.

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[1yunggun]

Good player, not great. Rode a defense and running game since he came in the league. He’s gonna run around and do too much until he is hurt. Seahawks are circling the drain, which was obvious all offseason.

If he wouldn’t have thrown that ball they would have two rings to show for that amazing d.

Yeah , he only lead the league in touchdowns last season "including an NFL Record (18) in 4th the quarter and led his team in rushing last season. It's a good thing he had a defense and running back to help him produce those kind of numbers.....Not to mention, 90 percent of NFL QBs wouldn't last a full season behind that line.

[Siberian13]

I think we’re starting to see how much of an impact Scot McCloughan had on the team. He was with Seattle from ‘10-‘13. All of our current (and now departed) studs came from those draft years. After he left, the hawks have had a few good finds, but it’s been rough.

Interesting he was there to help the Browns with this years draft. His issues with alcohol seem to have done him in.

[Rjk214]

Yeah , he only lead the league in touchdowns last season "including an NFL Record (18) in 4th the quarter and led his team in rushing last season. It's a good thing he had a defense and running back to help him produce those kind of numbers.....Not to mention, 90 percent of NFL QBs wouldn't last a full season behind that line.

Exactly... 1 or 2 other QBs at best could have done what Wilson did last year with what he had to work with... It was mind blowing how fantastic he was

[rittdk01]

Yeah , he only lead the league in touchdowns last season "including an NFL Record (18) in 4th the quarter and led his team in rushing last season. It's a good thing he had a defense and running back to help him produce those kind of numbers.....Not to mention, 90 percent of NFL QBs wouldn't last a full season behind that line.

:coffee: let's talk again when the Seahawks post lob get a w :)!

[titletowncards]

And tell me: what have the Seahawks won before Wilson? He's been a good luck charm, if nothing else.

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I heard they went to the Super Bowl in 2006 :D

[starfox]

Exactly... 1 or 2 other QBs at best could have done what Wilson did last year with what he had to work with... It was mind blowing how fantastic he wasYes. The Seahawks are a 2-win team without Wilson. With him, they can win 7, maybe 6. Big difference between 2 and 7 or 6. I think Wilson is a top-20 player. I really mean that.

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[StevenTormollan]

His situation sucks right now with a crappy o line and bad skill players... terrible skill players actually - but Wilson is absolutely LEGIT !

Wilson is individually one of the top 5 qb's right now in the game.

[Siberian13]

His situation sucks right now with a crappy o line and bad skill players... terrible skill players actually - but Wilson is absolutely LEGIT !

Wilson is individually one of the top 5 qb's right now in the game.

Yeah RW3 has nothing to help him right now. Feel bad for him.

[MFaulkCollector]

Yeah , he only lead the league in touchdowns last season "including an NFL Record (18) in 4th the quarter and led his team in rushing last season. It's a good thing he had a defense and running back to help him produce those kind of numbers.....Not to mention, 90 percent of NFL QBs wouldn't last a full season behind that line.

the timing was off for the whole thing to work right...... wilson wasn't ready to be "the guy" when he started. he did hide behind a great defense and an elite running attack..... his passing efficiency was very high due to max protect, well designed routes, heavy threat of the run........ wilson through the 2nd super bowl appearance was not even a "good" nfl starter

however...... he did develop and i think he is top tier qb now....... last year he led the league in td passes while being the best offensive player; by the time he did become the face of the franchise it was too late

had the current wilson been playing in that first super bowl and moving forward they could have easily won 3-4 super bowls

the timing just wasn't right. the attempt to force wilson into the face of the franchise by throwing that slant; it will always be the play the potentially ruined a dynasty

[Scottish Punk]

the timing was off for the whole thing to work right...... wilson wasn't ready to be "the guy" when he started. he did hide behind a great defense and an elite running attack..... his passing efficiency was very high due to max protect, well designed routes, heavy threat of the run........ wilson through the 2nd super bowl appearance was not even a "good" nfl starter

however...... he did develop and i think he is top tier qb now....... last year he led the league in td passes while being the best offensive player; by the time he did become the face of the franchise it was too late

had the current wilson been playing in that first super bowl and moving forward they could have easily won 3-4 super bowls

the timing just wasn't right. the attempt to force wilson into the face of the franchise by throwing that slant; it will always be the play the potentially ruined a dynasty

I think the dynasty being ended was simply economics. They had an all pro defense - Sherman, Thomas, Chancellor, Irvin, and Wagner all making peanuts. Thrown in the Wilson making less than 1 mil and paying Baldwin nothing on offense and you can keep the band together. All those draft pick bargains need to get paid when their contract is up. Some have to be let go. All of those big contracts sap any chance to get guys in free agent and/or build depth.

[jdandns]

At what cost? There's a reason they have no money for their OL and the Legion of Boom has become the Legion of Who.
If you had Russell at his salary you can't sign Donald or Gurley.

Well, sure, he'd have to take a huge pay cut to come to LA.

[MFaulkCollector]

I think the dynasty being ended was simply economics. They had an all pro defense - Sherman, Thomas, Chancellor, Irvin, and Wagner all making peanuts. Thrown in the Wilson making less than 1 mil and paying Baldwin nothing on offense and you can keep the band together. All those draft pick bargains need to get paid when their contract is up. Some have to be let go. All of those big contracts sap any chance to get guys in free agent and/or build depth.

i understand that.... but people want to play for a winner... if they were looking at 3-4 straight super bowls they could have done things a lot differently

plus that one play destroyed the locker room; and carroll made it way worse by just not admitting the poor decision right away

clearly age would be an issue for defensive guys and thomas/sherman/cam wouldn't be as good today as in 12-16 but if the timing was right they would have been the team of the 2010's; even if the run was only 5-6 years

[Reignman40]

Wilson is still a top 10 QB maybe even higher. But the Seahawks are no longer a top 10 team talent wise. Not enough talk about this but a major problem is new OC Schottenheimer. He is terrible and washed up. A relic of the past. He makes Bevell look good. I have no clue why we hired this moron in a full on passing league.

The whole system is lacking. Below average weapons, below average line, terrible OC is a recipe for disaster.

[ninjacookies]

Wilson is still a top 10 QB maybe even higher. But the Seahawks are no longer a top 10 team talent wise. Not enough talk about this but a major problem is new OC Schottenheimer. He is terrible and washed up. A relic of the past. He makes Bevell look good. I have no clue why we hired this moron in a full on passing league.

The whole system is lacking. Below average weapons, below average line, terrible OC is a recipe for disaster.


Amazing that even with all the mediocrity, we're still only less than 6 mill under the salary cap.

Difficult for me to fully grasp that.

[ntgm37]

I think we’re starting to see how much of an impact Scot McCloughan had on the team. He was with Seattle from ‘10-‘13. All of our current (and now departed) studs came from those draft years. After he left, the hawks have had a few good finds, but it’s been rough.

Seriously. Schneider is overrated.

[HBMC]

Amazing that even with all the mediocrity, we're still only less than 6 mill under the salary cap.

Difficult for me to fully grasp that.

They've got $18.46m in dead money.

Kam Chancellor is a $9.3m cap hit and he's retired, but his base salary became fully guaranteed on 2/9/2018. He's 5.23% of Seattle's cap. Looks like he's going to get $5.2m in 2019 Guaranteed because he was injured. Apparently he and his agent were very shrewd.

Michael Bennett has a $5.212m cap hit and he's an Eagle.

$2.5m for Jeremy Lane and $2.2m for Richard Sherman.

[trixstar]

You've already far missed the boat if you didnt sell his cards already

[49erRCCollector]

I genuinely fear Wilson is going to be saddled with mediocre talent from here on out. The Seahawks aren’t the Pats or the 80s/90s Niners.

[broncomanning18]

You've already far missed the boat if you didnt sell his cards already

I disagree wholeheartedly, if you are talking about this year probably right, but I see future prices for wilson way higher than peak

[bojesphob]

I disagree wholeheartedly, if you are talking about this year probably right, but I see future prices for wilson way higher than peak

That will greatly depend on whether he gets any talented help. If not, he ends up this generation's Matt Hasselbeck. Matt was a really good QB that ended up having the talent on the team drop off drastically after they went to the Super Bowl, and then nothing. If that happens, his prices probably won't recover, as he won't end up doing much again.

[Hawksmack]

Well, that payoff won't be coming this year or the next based on what he is doing now.

Tell me more. One win away from another 10 win season. And guess what MF Wilson is in the playoffs again.

[Rjk214]

Well this thread aged well..

Wilson continuing to move up the ranks. Definitely a Top 5 QB

[Siberian13]

What is it that I don't see about RW3? I know stats aren't everything but they do show you something. He's a winner

74-36-1 regular season record & 8-4 in the playoffs. He has a 100.5 QB rating which is #2 alltime only behind Rodgers and 195 TDs to 62 INTs andanother 16 rushing TDs.
8-4 playoff record. 25,472 yards with 2777 rushing yards.

I would think most teams would love to have this "game manager" :)

[Josh611]

What is it that I don't see about RW3? I know stats aren't everything but they do show you something. He's a winner

74-36-1 regular season record & 8-4 in the playoffs. He has a 100.5 QB rating which is #2 alltime only behind Rodgers and 195 TDs to 62 INTs andanother 16 rushing TDs.
8-4 playoff record. 25,472 yards with 2777 rushing yards.

I would think most teams would love to have this "game manager" :)

Sign me up. I’ll give Stafford a piggy back ride all the way to Seattle

[quorthon13]

If he doesn't get injured, someday people will write his name like this:

RUSSELL
WILSON

[Yunked]

Hahaha, I’m sorry - I just can’t take this post seriously

[Rjk214]

What is it that I don't see about RW3? I know stats aren't everything but they do show you something. He's a winner

74-36-1 regular season record & 8-4 in the playoffs. He has a 100.5 QB rating which is #2 alltime only behind Rodgers and 195 TDs to 62 INTs andanother 16 rushing TDs.
8-4 playoff record. 25,472 yards with 2777 rushing yards.

I would think most teams would love to have this "game manager" :)

He is also 17-2 in PrimeTime games over his last 19. That’s an impressive stat. You don’t bet against him in those games

[ninjacookies]

He is also 17-2 in PrimeTime games over his last 19. That’s an impressive stat. You don’t bet against him in those games

You'd think people would know better enough by now not to create these type of threads on RW after an early season rough start.


That's something you do for wildly inconsistent dudes like Kirk Cousins or Eli Manning.


Wilson's never had a sub 92 rating season, and is currently standing at a ridiculous 112.7.

He's taken a step back in the yardage department, but this is a run first team. Always has been, always will be. Currently first in the league at a dazzling 158.5 yards per game. Saying a lot considering they have a bunch of guys that are far from household names.

[Verufian]

Jesus. The flip flop in this thread makes me motion sick.

Honestly the only reason RW doesn’t get respect is because of location. Playing in Seattle, or SE Alaska as many sports casters say, hurts his rep.

If Wilson was putting these numbers together for the Cowboys, Giants or Packers he’d have the hype he should.

[dwest13cavs]

He has been the best QB or close to it in the 4th quarter since he has been in the league.

[Rjk214]

First QB in the history of the NFL to have a winning record in each of their first 7 seasons.. Another crazy stat

[escapegoat]

https://i.postimg.cc/fbPpBybw/122226-AE-B69-D-466-C-AA41-766144854-DFA.jpg

just saw this on tv. pretty cool.

[quorthon13]

Russ has 75.5 qb wins in his first 7 years. NFL Record.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Seahawks/comments/ab4sla/russ_has_755_qb_wins_in_his_first_7_years_nfl/

[motu79]

Stop bumping this up, I like my quarterback being in mediocrity. :)

[pejc300]

Stop bumping this up, I like my game manager being in mediocrity. :)

Fixed it for you;)

[quorthon13]

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[motu79]

Fixed it for you;)

Whatever you want to call it, I'll take it. haha

[Bowman1951]

Solid thread, would read again.

[quorthon13]

Apparently we had it wrong, TOP ELITE QB LIST:

1. DangeRuss
2. FITzMAGIc
3. COOL BREES
4. GOFF - does he even have a nickname?


https://old.reddit.com/r/Seahawks/comments/abbl27/pffs_top_ten_single_game_performances_1_and_2/

[SirTommyWinAlot]

Wilson is a very good player. This is what happens when a player can carry a bad team no more. The Seahawks don't have many good players. No quarterback has had success alone. No: not Rodgers. Not Brady. Not Elway. None of them.

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really?

[88horsepower]

https://i.postimg.cc/fbPpBybw/122226-AE-B69-D-466-C-AA41-766144854-DFA.jpg

just saw this on tv. pretty cool.

I really wish they would stop assigning wins to players. It’s a team game.

[IronMonkey415]

Can't believe he will win #9 this Saturday.

This is one of my special reverse jinx that always work.

[starfox]

really?I'm correct in all I said. The thing is: Seattle as a team is better than I, or anyone else, thought they would be. Wilson can't do it alone. No one does. Seattle still isn't as talented as they were three years ago. It's their toughness; they win off toughness. I can respect that every day.

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[starfox]

I really wish they would stop assigning wins to players. It’s a team game.It's a team game. I understand coaches and quarterbacks get more credit generally than the team does, but these guys don't succeed without help. Just look at Russell Wilson last year. Look at Aaron Rodgers the last couple years.

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[starfox]

Can't believe he will win #9 this Saturday.

This is one of my special reverse jinx that always work.I get what you're saying, but the Cowboys got this. We gotta hunt Wilson all game, but we got this.

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[Verufian]

Only one NFL quarterback played every snap for his team this season: Russell Wilson. He's never missed a single game or start in his seven pro seasons.

https://twitter.com/fieldyates/status/1080177388926001157?s=21

also has the 2nd most rushing yards and attempts of any QB since he was drafted in 2012 (behind Cam), which throws an interesting wrench in the "mobile QBs can't stay healthy" debate

https://twitter.com/minakimes/status/1080181836385419265?s=21