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dasiegel
10-01-2018, 09:57 AM
One of my favorite things to talk about is who will be the breakout players and who will get a chance in the upcoming year!
We can use this thread to talk about what we see in the preseason. Which players look like they can be stars, make rosters or surprise us in some way.
So far I haven't watched any games but it looks like Miles Bridges had a sick start. I saw Simmons had 14 assists. Other solid lines were Juan Hernangomez, Zach Lavine, Antonio Blakeney.
Some vets came to play like Bobby Portis and Hassan Whiteside.
My boy Monk dropped 13 coming off an injury;)
Add your own observations!
smalltown
10-01-2018, 10:06 AM
Pascal Siakam.
20 Min - 6pts - 3ast - 13rbs
His shooting was off. But he was giving portland fits with his ball handling and pushing it up the floor.
steadned36
10-01-2018, 10:08 AM
One of my favorite things to talk about is who will be the breakout players and who will get a chance in the upcoming year!
We can use this thread to talk about what we see in the preseason. Which players look like they can be stars, make rosters or surprise us in some way.
So far I haven't watched any games but it looks like Miles Bridges had a sick start. I saw Simmons had 14 assists. Other solid lines were Juan Hernangomez, Zach Lavine, Antonio Blakeney.
Some vets came to play like Bobby Portis and Hassan Whiteside.
My boy Monk dropped 13 coming off an injury;)
Add your own observations!
Kuzma looked great. How bout Dwayne Bacon getting some run?
jcardstore
10-01-2018, 10:11 AM
Dejounte bulked up over the summer. I think Pop is turning this team over to him. He's not going to score 20ppg but he's an incredible defender and is emerging as the leader of the Spurs.
Luka my boy was exactly what I expected. Very solid play, nothing super flashy but looked very poised out there. Not expecting anything different when the play the sixers Friday.
Really excited to see Jon Isaac play tonight
SGA carried over some really nice play from the summer league into the 1st preseason game yesterday. Would be surprised if he isn't starting by mid season and Bev is traded.
I'll stop now but I could go all day. Have never been this excited for an NBA season before
dasiegel
10-01-2018, 10:12 AM
Pascal Siakam.
20 Min - 6pts - 3ast - 13rbs
His shooting was off. But he was giving portland fits with his ball handling and pushing it up the floor.
I love his attitude on the court, very deep squad you guys have
Kuzma looked great. How bout Dwayne Bacon getting some run?
If you watch college or Summer league highlights of him, he looks almost like he's playing in slow motion. Not in a Kyle Anderson way, but just like he glides and scores with ease. They actually have a weird log jam at the guard position especially if they wanna rebuild. Monk, Bridges and Bacon need some SG minutes and they have Kemba at the 1 and Batum/Lamb getting 2/3 minutes.
jcardstore
10-01-2018, 10:12 AM
Kuzma looked great. How bout Dwayne Bacon getting some run?
:confused::confused::confused:
He looked really bad yesterday. Ingram looked pretty good but needs to put on a lot of weight.
bighunt172
10-01-2018, 10:40 AM
Dennis Smith looked good, i think Doncic will help him get to the next level
COMCMax
10-01-2018, 10:42 AM
No 2nd year slump for Tatum. Beefed up a bit. Becomes superstar and this card looks awesome. Great pic. @lisu
Jayson Tatum 2017 Panini Opulence RC Rookie Platinum 1/1 One of One Celtics (https://bit.ly/2xU5unL)
Caught this pic when I was lifting beside him yesterday. Needed to pack on some weight/muscle.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7a/5a/d5/7a5ad5a24a44962c4145fccd337979f7.jpg
DevinKurant
10-01-2018, 10:54 AM
:confused::confused::confused:
He looked really bad yesterday. Ingram looked pretty good but needs to put on a lot of weight.
I agree about Kuzma. He looks the same to me; eager on both sides of the ball, but still doesn’t look like he has the upper hand. He almost looks like he is playing catch-up. I’m not super encouraged. Ingram is gonna have a great year, assuming he stays on the court with that narrow frame.
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the27guy
10-01-2018, 10:56 AM
Grayson freaking Allen.
jcardstore
10-01-2018, 10:57 AM
I agree about Kuzma. He looks the same to me; eager on both sides of the ball, but still doesn’t look like he has the upper hand. He almost looks like he is playing catch-up. I’m not super encouraged. Ingram is gonna have a great year, assuming he stays on the court with that narrow frame.
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Kuzma is insanely overrated based on the equivalent of 2 months of basketball. He's pretty clearly the odd man out this year IMO and will almost certainly regress.
bighunt172
10-01-2018, 11:00 AM
kuzma will not be in the rotation much come mid season, Hart is a better player than him as well
dasiegel
10-01-2018, 11:07 AM
Grayson freaking Allen.
yea he had a day
kuzma will not be in the rotation much come mid season, Hart is a better player than him as well
i like hart but not sure why everyone is down on kuzma, he has done nothing to show he's going to step backwards.
bighunt172
10-01-2018, 11:12 AM
yea he had a day
i like hart but not sure why everyone is down on kuzma, he has done nothing to show he's going to step backwards.
I think his shot selection is poor, Hopefully walton and lebron will help with that, because he is talented
theLUCKYshow
10-01-2018, 11:50 AM
Lavine looked really good. I didn’t watch any of it, though.
Magicpenny
10-01-2018, 01:40 PM
Lotta hype on Mario Hezonja in NY, will get heavy minutes early with Porzingis still out.
TampaFood
10-01-2018, 02:32 PM
Playing time is going to be the key. Doncic should lead the way. Knox seems to be secured minutes especially with Lance Thomas starting over Hezonja in preseason game one. Ayton should get minutes but the Suns are a mess at PG and the NBA is moving away from a big mans league. I am concerned with Tatum and Kuzma. There are just not enough balls to go around to secure the stats to keep these cards at these prices.
dcarado
10-01-2018, 02:49 PM
Playing time is going to be the key. Doncic should lead the way. Knox seems to be secured minutes especially with Lance Thomas starting over Hezonja in preseason game one. Ayton should get minutes but the Suns are a mess at PG and the NBA is moving away from a big mans league. I am concerned with Tatum and Kuzma. There are just not enough balls to go around to secure the stats to keep these cards at these prices.
Not sure how Kuzma's situation will pan out, but I expected a bigger drop when LeBron went to LA. Not sure how Kuzma is possibly going to put up big numbers consistently with LeBron there.
It's just beating a dead horse on Tatums prices right now. There's no way to win in the short-term at these prices, but people that think he could be the next Kobe are looking at long-term hold anyways. I may buy back in around Christmas if he's averaging 12 ppg.
messier2
10-01-2018, 02:50 PM
Hoping Knox has a huge pre-season!
splum
10-01-2018, 02:52 PM
Hoping Knox has a huge pre-season!
I have mixed feelings because on one hand I want him to be a monster and take the league by storm but also it would be nice to be able to afford his cards when they come out. Very conflicted.
messier2
10-01-2018, 02:54 PM
I have mixed feelings because on one hand I want him to be a monster and take the league by storm but also it would be nice to be able to afford his cards when they come out. Very conflicted.
I hear ya. I'm not a Knicks fan, but would love to see him succeed in NY. Seems like a good kid.
Siberian13
10-01-2018, 02:55 PM
Trae Young and John Collins. Let's go Hawks!!!! Just win something even if it's a preseason game.
smalltown
10-01-2018, 07:35 PM
Based on my COMC it's Jakob Poeltl. 17 base prizm sold in the last day.
dasiegel
10-01-2018, 08:12 PM
Kevin Knox looks really fluid tonight. Any fans should expect some excitement this yr.
beauchampson
10-01-2018, 08:23 PM
who else is not mentioning their player because they don't want others on their hype?
dasiegel
10-01-2018, 08:27 PM
who else is not mentioning their player because they don't want others on their hype?
it's irrelevant if someone is trying to hide it at this point. all buying should be complete by now, all breakout players will eventually be named here.
jcardstore
10-01-2018, 08:34 PM
who else is not mentioning their player because they don't want others on their hype?
There are no "secret" players.
jcardstore
10-01-2018, 08:35 PM
Trae Young looking like he's trying to set the all time brick record
dasiegel
10-01-2018, 08:51 PM
This kid McRae on the Wizards is excellent
dcarado
10-01-2018, 08:58 PM
who else is not mentioning their player because they don't want others on their hype?
If you're the only person who knows how good your un-hyped player is, that should tell you something :)!
h00perstar34
10-01-2018, 08:59 PM
Monks got spunk
dasiegel
10-01-2018, 09:02 PM
I read Isaac went out with a right ankle in the 2nd quarter, any Magic fans have more?
dasiegel
10-01-2018, 09:05 PM
John Collins nice statline for the Hawks, same with Bembry
messier2
10-01-2018, 09:09 PM
Damyean Dotson!!!!
ballhawkdawk
10-01-2018, 09:13 PM
I read Isaac went out with a right ankle in the 2nd quarter, any Magic fans have more?
I watched on the local 76ers channel... they didn’t provide an update throughout the game.
Markelle Fultz for ROY. Our rookies all get two years of eligibility.
daeve
10-01-2018, 09:15 PM
John Collins nice statline for the Hawks, same with Bembry
He's been dunking over everything. Trae's shot has been off but he's had some nice dimes.
https://streamable.com/jnhe7
dasiegel
10-01-2018, 09:19 PM
He's been dunking over everything. Trae's shot has been off but he's had some nice dimes.
https://streamable.com/jnhe7
the Hawks are gonna be so bad I couldn't buy too many Collins but I had to pick up a few because he is the real deal.
jcardstore
10-01-2018, 09:32 PM
Collins is nice but yea the Hawks are going to be awful.
Pathora
10-01-2018, 09:51 PM
How is a Suns/Kings pre-season game with the #1 and 2 draft picks not on TV at all? Every game should be available its 2018.
dasiegel
10-01-2018, 10:10 PM
Collins is nice but yea the Hawks are going to be awful.
agreed
How is a Suns/Kings pre-season game with the #1 and 2 draft picks not on TV at all? Every game should be available its 2018.
yea like id rather see that on nba tv than friggin Magic preview
dasiegel
10-01-2018, 11:28 PM
Looks like Ayton had a great 1st game, Josh Jackson and Yogi Ferrell. Solid outing for Fox and Giles.
RandysHobby
10-01-2018, 11:38 PM
Looks like Ayton had a great 1st game, Josh Jackson and Yogi Ferrell. Solid outing for Fox and Giles.
Ayton 24 and 9! Nice. Yogi played well too.
clipperboy24
10-01-2018, 11:44 PM
How is a Suns/Kings pre-season game with the #1 and 2 draft picks not on TV at all? Every game should be available its 2018.
Yeah that was pretty bad planning on the NBA’s part
RandysHobby
10-02-2018, 01:16 AM
Deandre Bembry had 20!
jcardstore
10-02-2018, 05:43 AM
Since that game wasn’t on tv for whatever reason I had to watch it via highlights. Giles looks pretty good looking at you lucky :)!
The fact that the Kings passed up on so many good players to get Bagley is going to haunt them. JJJ and Bamba are pretty clearly better players already and Luka is obvious
smalltown
10-02-2018, 07:37 AM
Looks like Ayton had a great 1st game
I want to agree but... Kings. I wanna see what he does against an NBA team.
The fact that the Kings passed up on so many good players to get Bagley is going to haunt them. JJJ and Bamba are pretty clearly better players already and Luka is obvious
100%. I just don't understand what the Kings are doing.
jcardstore
10-02-2018, 08:01 AM
I want to agree but... Kings. I wanna see what he does against an NBA team.
100%. I just don't understand what the Kings are doing.
I feel bad for Kings fans. Their FO has assembled the worst possible mix of guys considering the draft capital they've had over the last few years. I don't think they could have picked a worse fit than Bagley.
Did anyone else see that Joerger ran a lineup of: WCS, Giles, Bagley, Skal, Mason yesterday? Wtf is that? Skal was playing the 2 btw lol. It led to 2 fouls and 2 turnovers if anyone was wondering
Wolves4Life
10-02-2018, 08:02 AM
Andrew Wiggins.
No LaVine, Dunn, Pattson, Now Butler. It's him and KAT vs the World.
smalltown
10-02-2018, 08:06 AM
I feel bad for Kings fans. Their FO has assembled the worst possible mix of guys considering the draft capital they've had over the last few years. I don't think they could have picked a worse fit than Bagley.
Did anyone else see that Joerger ran a lineup of: WCS, Giles, Bagley, Skal, Mason yesterday? Wtf is that? Skal was playing the 2 btw lol. It led to 2 fouls and 2 turnovers if anyone was wondering
I'm rewatching the game this morning. There's going to be some really ugly games with these two teams this year.
jcardstore
10-02-2018, 08:27 AM
Andrew Wiggins.
No LaVine, Dunn, Pattson, Now Butler. It's him and KAT vs the World.
Yea... he's still the same player. Put up a very Wiggins-like line again last saturday and looks to have not improved anything at all over this summer.
WaiverWire
10-02-2018, 08:55 AM
Yea... he's still the same player. Put up a very Wiggins-like line again last saturday and looks to have not improved anything at all over this summer.
Wiggins has all of the tools, but apparently none of the motivation. He also has an albatross of a contract. Terribly inefficient player. The smart move for MIN would be to trade him and get some players that don't take shots away from KAT. Alas, the Wolves are circling the drain this year and I expect the Thibs experiment to go boom. Maybe if they package Wiggins and Jimmy Butler together in a trade package they can get something good.
ninjacookies
10-02-2018, 08:56 AM
the NBA is moving away from a big mans league.
Lol says who?
The only ones moving away from it are the squads without talent at the position.
KAT, Embiid, Jokic, Cousins (when healthy), AD....
Ayton will get plenty of looks and opportunities assuming he stays healthy. Especially since it's a young squad.
He's still my lock for ROY. But apparently everyone else is off him since it's way too easy/obvious of a pick.
jcardstore
10-02-2018, 08:58 AM
Wiggins has all of the tools, but apparently none of the motivation. He also has an albatross of a contract. Terribly inefficient player. The smart move for MIN would be to trade him and get some players that don't take shots away from KAT. Alas, the Wolves are circling the drain this year and I expect the Thibs experiment to go boom. Maybe if they package Wiggins and Jimmy Butler together in a trade package they can get something good.
Yea, that's the problem. Nobody wants Wiggins. At this point I'm not sure they could trade him for anything at all. Whatever team would be interested in Butler definitely would not want Wiggins.
At this point he has no trade value
tjforce
10-02-2018, 08:58 AM
I feel bad for Kings fans. Their FO has assembled the worst possible mix of guys considering the draft capital they've had over the last few years. I don't think they could have picked a worse fit than Bagley.
Did anyone else see that Joerger ran a lineup of: WCS, Giles, Bagley, Skal, Mason yesterday? Wtf is that? Skal was playing the 2 btw lol. It led to 2 fouls and 2 turnovers if anyone was wondering
lol. Well, Valde did say he has a young super team.
I mean, Philly's starting lineup is 6'4", 6'9", 6'10", 6'10" and 7'2".
Same thing, right?
jcardstore
10-02-2018, 09:03 AM
lol. Well, Valde did say he has a young super team.
I mean, Philly's starting lineup is 6'4", 6'9", 6'10", 6'10" and 7'2".
Same thing, right?
lol yea basically. It also helps when you have players that can actually play together and not a team full of PF/C tweeners that can't shoot or handle the ball.
Giles might seriously end up being the best F on that team. He actually does have decent court vision.
theLUCKYshow
10-02-2018, 09:12 AM
I feel bad for Kings fans. Their FO has assembled the worst possible mix of guys considering the draft capital they've had over the last few years. I don't think they could have picked a worse fit than Bagley.
Did anyone else see that Joerger ran a lineup of: WCS, Giles, Bagley, Skal, Mason yesterday? Wtf is that? Skal was playing the 2 btw lol. It led to 2 fouls and 2 turnovers if anyone was wondering
You sure? I don’t remember that. The Kings did roll out a lineup of Frank Mason III, Bagley III, Giles III, and Ben Maclemore III which is oddly impressive.
Still can’t believe we passed on Luka! Giles is looking way better and more NBA ready than Bagley, and Giles has played like 7 games in the last 2 years.:doh: Hoping I’m wrong in 5 years about Bagley.
jcardstore
10-02-2018, 09:14 AM
You sure? I don’t remember that. The Kings did roll out a lineup of Frank Mason III, Bagley III, Giles III, and Ben Maclemore III which is oddly impressive.
Still can’t believe we passed on Luka! Giles is looking way better and more NBA ready than Bagley, and Giles has played like 7 games in the last 2 years.:doh: Hoping I’m wrong in 5 years about Bagley.
Yep, at the beginning of the 2nd quarter. Was only on the floor for a minute.
I think you've corrupted me haha I'm really starting to come around on Giles. The multiple serious knee injuries scare the hell out of me but man he looks like he could be a really good player.
RogerGodahell
10-02-2018, 09:32 AM
The Kings being bad is good for the Celtics. They have the Kings 1st round pick in 2019 as long as it isn't #1 overall. They acquired the pick when they traded down from the #1 pick with Philadelphia. Philly chose Fultz and Boston picked Tatum.
smalltown
10-02-2018, 09:34 AM
Giles is looking way better and more NBA ready than Bagley, and Giles has played like 7 games in the last 2 years.:doh: Hoping I’m wrong in 5 years about Bagley.
I'm really starting to come around on Giles.
To be fair Willie Cauley-Stein looked better than both of them.
Siberian13
10-02-2018, 09:46 AM
Trae Young and John Collins. Let's go Hawks!!!! Just win something even if it's a preseason game.
Woohoo! 1-0 in preseason. I'll take it!
jcardstore
10-02-2018, 10:11 AM
To be fair Willie Cauley-Stein looked better than both of them.
True but he has no upside.
steadned36
10-02-2018, 10:20 AM
True but he has no upside.
what is upside? 2x or 25x?
jcardstore
10-02-2018, 10:30 AM
what is upside? 2x or 25x?
The answer to this question would be 0x. I can't imagine WCS getting any better than he already is.
What could he possibly add to his game?
smalltown
10-02-2018, 10:35 AM
True but he has no upside.
That's kinda my point. I feel like he may end up the best of the 4 bigs.
He's also got a contract coming up so i think we're going to see more from him this year.
dasiegel
10-02-2018, 10:41 AM
lol yea basically. It also helps when you have players that can actually play together and not a team full of PF/C tweeners that can't shoot or handle the ball.
Giles might seriously end up being the best F on that team. He actually does have decent court vision.
[QUOTE=smalltown;13963523]That's kinda my point. I feel like he may end up the best of the 4 bigs.
I think you guys are sleeping on Bagley. He looked NBA ready in Summer League and I get it, Summer League... but he has a hell of a skillset. If you had a lineup of Fox, Hield, Bogdanovich, Bagley, and Giles, then you begin to put something together.
The biggest problem with the Kings is they constantly draft at the same position. No matter who is there. Stauskas after McLemore. Bagley with Giles and WCS. It's like come on front office. Kings fans may have it worse than Knick fans.
smalltown
10-02-2018, 10:46 AM
I think you guys are sleeping on Bagley.
People were going gaga over bigs in this draft. But outside of Ayton all i saw/see is rim runners - Bagley included. That's not to say he can't be a solid player. I just don't see a star.
theLUCKYshow
10-02-2018, 10:54 AM
If only Luka was Serbian...
WCS plays great 1 out of 3 games, and is entering his 4th year. Gotta trade him so we have a freakin' pick next year!
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smalltown
10-02-2018, 11:01 AM
WCS plays great 1 out of 3 games, and is entering his 4th year. Gotta trade him so we have a freakin' pick next year!
That's where he needs to improve. Consistency.
dasiegel
10-02-2018, 11:03 AM
People were going gaga over bigs in this draft. But outside of Ayton all i saw/see is rim runners - Bagley included. That's not to say he can't be a solid player. I just don't see a star.
If I know anything after watching guys evolve over the last 5-10 years it's that you just can't tell this early if 19/20 y/o kids are the real deal.
Ayton could end up injury prone, he could get exposed against guys like Drummond and Embiid and Jordan who are bigger than him. He could get bullied by a guy like Baynes or Gasol. Maybe he could score 18 but give up 22 due to bad pick and roll defense. Maybe he has weak help side D.
Flip it, and maybe Bagley develops are great PnR game with Fox. Maybe he plays a great high low game with Giles. Maybe his solid shot becomes more lethal as the season goes on.
I do not see Ayton as a lock superstar and I see Bagley much differently than a WCS rim runner. But it may take 2 more seasons to even know who is right here.
If only Luka was Serbian...
WCS plays great 1 out of 3 games, and is entering his 4th year. Gotta trade him so we have a freakin' pick next year!
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I can't believe you guys don't have a pick... man that hurts. And it's gonna be a monster pick.
dasiegel
10-02-2018, 11:03 AM
That's where he needs to improve. Consistency.
As the great White Mamba says, "The best ability is availability."
smalltown
10-02-2018, 11:15 AM
I do not see Ayton as a lock superstar and I see Bagley much differently than a WCS rim runner. But it may take 2 more seasons to even know who is right here.
I agree with you on Ayton. I actually don't see a Superstar at all. I see a borderline all-star. Which if we're honest is really, really good.
I agree that you can't pigeon hole young guys. But I think what WCS has over the other Sac bigs is D. I don't think any of them really touch that aspect of his game.
He could get bullied by a guy like Baynes or Gasol.
He will get bullied. It'll be interesting to see how he responds to it.
theLUCKYshow
10-02-2018, 11:52 AM
I can't believe you guys don't have a pick... man that hurts. And it's gonna be a monster pick.
MONSTER PICK!
RogerGodahell
10-02-2018, 12:52 PM
Is the next draft class supposed to be good?
jcardstore
10-02-2018, 12:56 PM
[QUOTE=smalltown;13963523]That's kinda my point. I feel like he may end up the best of the 4 bigs.
I think you guys are sleeping on Bagley. He looked NBA ready in Summer League and I get it, Summer League... but he has a hell of a skillset. If you had a lineup of Fox, Hield, Bogdanovich, Bagley, and Giles, then you begin to put something together.
The biggest problem with the Kings is they constantly draft at the same position. No matter who is there. Stauskas after McLemore. Bagley with Giles and WCS. It's like come on front office. Kings fans may have it worse than Knick fans.
I just don't see the skillset for today's NBA from Bagley. He can't shoot, is sloppy with the ball, gets tunnel vision when he's got the ball. All I see from him is a super athletic guy without any good or elite skill.
dasiegel
10-02-2018, 02:14 PM
Is the next draft class supposed to be good?
Oh yea!
I just don't see the skillset for today's NBA from Bagley. He can't shoot, is sloppy with the ball, gets tunnel vision when he's got the ball. All I see from him is a super athletic guy without any good or elite skill.
I mean he's raw. But he has a motor and in this NBA that is as big a deal as anything.
That bum Andre Bynum was from my hometown and he from all accounts locally was just a huge guy who sucked. But then he got to work with Kareem Abdul Jabbar and NBA level trainers and he had a few great years. So Bagley who actually cares about basketball could really develop since he seems driven and will have some pros around him. Zach Randolph should help with the shot.
Tarheelsfan2012
10-02-2018, 06:13 PM
Is the next draft class supposed to be good?
I think it looks weaker than the past two. You have Little, Barrett, Zion(but he needs to prove he can score from the outside) and Bol Bol. Potentially you have Reddish and Langford who could jump into the top 5. The problem is theres no PG's or C's, they're almost all 2's and 3's.
drobfan8
10-02-2018, 07:29 PM
We call it tall poppy syndrome in Australia. A way of bringing down the top dogs when they're being talked about highly too often.
I do it with LeBron. A bunch did/do it with Simmons.
Ayton has clearly been the most impressive Rookie out the gate. He didn't go against some scrub. He's shown he can shoot and defend the paint. Great start for him.
Yes he'll struggle agains the best Cs at times this season, but he looks great, and imagine when he and Booker have it going.
jcardstore
10-02-2018, 08:28 PM
No hype for Cedi? I'm disappointed in y'all
Wolves4Life
10-02-2018, 09:49 PM
Yea... he's still the same player. Put up a very Wiggins-like line again last saturday and looks to have not improved anything at all over this summer.
Yeah because everyone knows pre season means anything. That's like me wanting a parade because the Wolves beat the Warriors in the game.
dasiegel
10-02-2018, 11:07 PM
Looks like these are some of the top box scores for tonight not including the LA/Denver game:
Willy Hernangomez 16 and 10 6-7 from the field
Also in that game a lot of people played well including Bacon, Monk and again Miles Bridges. For the Heat Hassan Whiteside had a big double double 14 and 15 with 2 blks.
Collin Sexton had 15 for the Cavs who were led by LOve with 17 and a nice game for Cedi Osman 11, 7, 4.
Rockets played heavy minutes from the vets and CP3, Harden and Melo all played well.
Carter-Williams had 19. Jaren Jackson was the real surprise 6-6 15, 3, 3. Conley, KYle Anderson and Parsons played well as well.
J. Ingles had 24 for the Jazz. Mitchell, Rubio and Gobert were good too. JV and Kawhi led the Raptors.
messier2
10-03-2018, 07:03 AM
No Mason Plumlee hype? He was a beast last night
smalltown
10-03-2018, 07:20 AM
J. Ingles had 24 for the Jazz. Mitchell, Rubio and Gobert were good too. JV and Kawhi led the Raptors.
Watched this game.
Really for the Jazz Ingles couldn't miss and Rubio looked smooth. Grayson Allen looked good offensively - but he's going to be eaten alive on D.
For the Raptors. We got to see the actual rotation in the second quarter and wow i'm excited. Kawhi looked like Kawhi. JV was a bully. And Siakam beats everyone down the court.
jcardstore
10-03-2018, 07:52 AM
No Mason Plumlee hype? He was a beast last night
Fun fact: only 3 guards since 2000 have had a 100% FG% on 10 or more FGA.
Tony Allen
Jarrett Jack
Darren Collison
steadned36
10-03-2018, 07:58 AM
No Mason Plumlee hype? He was a beast last night
BEAST
dcarado
10-03-2018, 08:29 AM
No Mason Plumlee hype? He was a beast last night
Big man who doesn't shoot the 3 = no hobby love
theLUCKYshow
10-03-2018, 02:39 PM
Just stumbled across this pretty cool. A show going behind-the-scenes of the Bulls. Season 2? Is it always the Bulls?
https://youtu.be/4iYKXqb-fLY
Edit: it is. Season 1:
https://youtu.be/jmgOdhmjebA
So lucky for Bulls fans to have a show like this. Is this show a big deal? Id never heard of it but gonna binge tonight.
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theLUCKYshow
10-04-2018, 10:20 PM
Fox and Giles making me emotional early on. Finally HOPE!
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LeonfromNC
10-04-2018, 11:09 PM
TJ LEAF? I have tons and I mean tons of his stuff (not intentionally). Hopefully I can now move it all lol.
cp3fan
10-04-2018, 11:13 PM
Fox and Giles making me emotional early on. Finally HOPE!
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Fox looks good. His shot looks much smoother and he has been shooting with a lot of confidence and just playing with a lot of confidence overall tonight
abidtsteele
10-04-2018, 11:22 PM
TJ LEAF? I have tons and I mean tons of his stuff (not intentionally). Hopefully I can now move it all lol.
was wondering why some of my dirt cheap leaf stuff was moving on COMC
TJ Leaf for sure! This guy is rolling now!
darscards35kd
10-05-2018, 12:09 AM
Let the Ingram hype begin!
dasiegel
10-05-2018, 12:29 AM
Fox and Giles making me emotional early on. Finally HOPE!
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Fox and Giles and on the other side Ingram, Kuz and Hart
theLUCKYshow
10-05-2018, 01:10 AM
Fox and Giles and on the other side Ingram, Kuz and HartBagley put together a nice line. Really became the focal point once the starters were done. I'm starting to see him as an energy pts guy off the bench where he can get a lot of touches. Not what I expected from a No. 2 pick but it seems like his best role right now.
And Giles stop fouling everyone! That one hand quicky dime to Willie was a thing of beauty though. Stats are all whacky this game, saw at least 4 assists from him tonight. The ball really runs through him quite a bit on offense.
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drobfan8
10-05-2018, 02:59 AM
Let the Ingram hype begin!
And so it should. Other than Ninja and myself I've seen plenty of non-believers in him. Dude is the real deal
messier2
10-05-2018, 07:37 AM
Josh Hart is my pick for "breakout" player from the 2017-18 draft class.
If he can drop 12-15 per game, that will be huge!
ninjacookies
10-05-2018, 06:13 PM
And so it should. Other than Ninja and myself I've seen plenty of non-believers in him. Dude is the real deal
He has all the tools to be a superstar for the next generation, and I think Lebron will only help him get there. It's easy to get caught up in the 'too skiinny/too slow' argument, but when you actually watch him play, he is very similar to Durant in that his length is so tough to guard. If he gets that outside jumper down with consistency, the only one who can stop him is himself.
He has all the tools to be a superstar for the next generation, and I think Lebron will only help him get there. It's easy to get caught up in the 'too skiinny/too slow' argument, but when you actually watch him play, he is very similar to Durant in that his length is so tough to guard. If he gets that outside jumper down with consistency, the only one who can stop him is himself.
Haha Lebron helping someone?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BUMjQByXsA
steadned36
10-05-2018, 07:55 PM
Sack vs GS in Seattle tonight! The return of KD (for ~ 20 min)
chasacar86
10-05-2018, 08:04 PM
Josh Hart is my pick for "breakout" player from the 2017-18 draft class.
If he can drop 12-15 per game, that will be huge!
Great offseason and playing his way into the starting lineup. Overshadowed by the bigger young names there but he’s starting to get noticed.
theLUCKYshow
10-06-2018, 10:07 AM
Harry’s had quite the introduction to the NBA, going up against Lebron then KD on back-to-back nights. Struggled early on but I love how he kept his head up. At one point he missed 4 straight and got taken out, was headed to the bench a little slumped and I saw ZBo pumping him up and telling him to shake it off. Came back in, threw down a monster dunk, then hit a corner three, then a swooping left handed hook to finish off the game. Man he could be starting by opening night!
I’m a homer, though, who PCs him so here’s some objectivity:
the27guy
10-06-2018, 10:18 AM
Grayson freaking Allen.
Ahem.
theLUCKYshow
10-06-2018, 03:52 PM
Ahem.Remind you of Hornacek at all?
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Vinny407
10-06-2018, 04:24 PM
I'm well aware of my perpetual optimism when it comes to the Magic.......but Mo Bamba is absolutely insane. Watching him effortlessly block shots is a lot of fun. He blocked 4 in 16 minutes last night. He's also 4-4 from long range so far this preseason :eek: Him and Isaac (who's grown to over 7ft since he was drafted) are going to be hell on defense for opponents. That combo will be deadly at some point (offense and defense).
jcardstore
10-10-2018, 09:56 AM
I'm really disappointed that nobody bumped this for Jimmer's 41
RandysHobby
10-10-2018, 10:00 AM
I'm really disappointed that nobody bumped this for Jimmer's 41
I was going to :)
Taurean prince with 16pts in the first 6mins of play
daeve
10-10-2018, 08:07 PM
Taurean prince with 16pts in the first 6mins of play
Collins has been getting all the fantasy love/pub, but Prince should be right there. Both will have opportunity for big minutes+usage this year.
theLUCKYshow
10-10-2018, 09:09 PM
Intersesting seeing Wendall Carter Jr and Portis in the starting lineup with Lavine, Dunn, and Jrue.
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dasiegel
10-10-2018, 09:49 PM
Some nice stat lines:
-For the Bulls, Holiday 22, Lavine 22, Portis 20 including 3 3pointers
-John Wall coming to play with 32 and 9
-Mike Conley healthy with 24
-Jonathan Isaac with 15 and 8 in 17 min
-Jarrett Allen with 23 and D'Angelo Russell with 18
-Danny Green led Toronto with 17, Kawhi played 31 min, 8 pts
-New Orleans very balanced in the loss; Randle with 23, Mirotic with 19, Payton with 17, D. Miller with 17 and Frank Jackson 13 in 21 min.
-For Miami Adebayo 26 and Richardson 25, think they heard the trade rumors?
hofcollector2
10-10-2018, 10:16 PM
Lonzo Ball worked on his shot this summer...ouch
dasiegel
10-10-2018, 10:26 PM
Lonzo Ball worked on his shot this summer...ouch
i like how he's playing minus the shot, caught that oop
dasiegel
10-10-2018, 10:30 PM
BTW that finish by Lebron on the Looney foul was incredible
darscards35kd
10-10-2018, 11:54 PM
He kinda gives me the Wiggins vibe out there. Tons of ability but just seems kind of aloof. Although I’d say turner gives more effort for sure it just seems like they both can’t find that next gear to take it up a notch.
steadned36
10-11-2018, 12:29 AM
What does Portland do with Nurkic Zach Collins & Swanigan?
jcardstore
10-11-2018, 06:40 AM
HOW ABOUT JON ISAAC?! He looked really nice last night. His length is insane and if he can hit the 3 with consistency watch out.
I'm just really hoping that the Magic trade Vuc, no reason for him to be on this team anymore. Go all in on Bamba and let it ride.
sigmachi
10-11-2018, 07:36 AM
Lonzo Ball worked on his shot this summer...ouch
the first one was indeed terrible but I think he made a couple jumpshots, including a 3 after that didn't he? I think LBJ is really going to benefit Ball's game.
clipperboy24
10-11-2018, 09:11 AM
HOW ABOUT JON ISAAC?! He looked really nice last night. His length is insane and if he can hit the 3 with consistency watch out.
I'm just really hoping that the Magic trade Vuc, no reason for him to be on this team anymore. Go all in on Bamba and let it ride.
Yeah that was a nice start for him! I agree the Magic should trade Vuc but it would be nice to see Mamba put some weight on. I was watching the Magic vs. Charlotte game and Bamba couldn’t even back down one of their 6’ guards, it was really surprising
dasiegel
10-11-2018, 10:37 AM
What does Portland do with Nurkic Zach Collins & Swanigan?
I like Swanigan but he won't get enough of a chance there.
HOW ABOUT JON ISAAC?! He looked really nice last night. His length is insane and if he can hit the 3 with consistency watch out.
I'm just really hoping that the Magic trade Vuc, no reason for him to be on this team anymore. Go all in on Bamba and let it ride.
In a recent interview, the Magic Gm seemed to wanna keep him
the first one was indeed terrible but I think he made a couple jumpshots, including a 3 after that didn't he? I think LBJ is really going to benefit Ball's game.
I actually thought he looked great off the ball
messier2
10-11-2018, 11:30 AM
the first one was indeed terrible but I think he made a couple jumpshots, including a 3 after that didn't he? I think LBJ is really going to benefit Ball's game.
Lonzo bulked up for sure and I think he's going to be fine. He won't be having many double doubles with Rondo starting, but it think he will be an asset off the bench!
jcardstore
10-11-2018, 01:10 PM
In a recent interview, the Magic Gm seemed to wanna keep him
I don't get why. It's not like they're going to win any more games with him. May as well trade him to get something. Magic are a bottom 5 team in the NBA regardless of whether Vuc is playing or not
Burt-Reynolds
10-11-2018, 01:49 PM
Lonzo bulked up for sure and I think he's going to be fine. He won't be having many double doubles with Rondo starting, but it think he will be an asset off the bench!
I think Rondo will start for awhile, but Zo will play a ton of minutes and will eventually start. I love what I've seen out of Rondo running the offense this preseason, but this is a different team defensively with Zo. His ability to anticipate and read on help defense is uncanny, and his increased bulk should help him on ball too. I loved seeing him body that one cat on a lay up. Last season he would of tried to finesse it and it would of been swatted into the 3rd row. Lol
dasiegel
10-11-2018, 03:33 PM
I think Rondo will start for awhile, but Zo will play a ton of minutes and will eventually start. I love what I've seen out of Rondo running the offense this preseason, but this is a different team defensively with Zo. His ability to anticipate and read on help defense is uncanny, and his increased bulk should help him on ball too. I loved seeing him body that one cat on a lay up. Last season he would of tried to finesse it and it would of been swatted into the 3rd row. Lol
he is excellent in the passing lanes
theLUCKYshow
10-11-2018, 09:06 PM
Battle of the Dukies, Giles and Bagley vs Grayson Allen about to start on NBAtv.
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smalltown
10-11-2018, 09:44 PM
Pascal Siakam 21pts, 11reb, 6Ast, 4stl
He and OG led the Raptors 905 134-119 over the Pelicans NBA rotation.
dasiegel
10-11-2018, 09:58 PM
Battle of the Dukies, Giles and Bagley vs Grayson Allen about to start on NBAtv.
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Utah whoopin dat azz
steadned36
10-11-2018, 10:00 PM
A 39-10 1st quarter tho? Pretty amazing at both ends really
the27guy
10-11-2018, 10:10 PM
Game was 45-10 at one point. Jazz have had a poor preseason. Good to see them get going a little.
Sacto is BAD. I don’t know what the under is but take it.
theLUCKYshow
10-11-2018, 10:27 PM
Just a trainwreck to watch! Where is there any attempt at D, Rudy looks like Wilt Russell. Utah looks like they're in mid-season form while Kings hopefully playing as bad as they can.
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jcardstore
10-12-2018, 06:45 AM
Who has more wins this season Hawks or Kings?
ballhawkdawk
10-12-2018, 06:54 AM
Who has more wins this season Hawks or Kings?
I’ll take the Hawks. Just assuming they have an easier schedule, and this is assuming neither team is in tank mode out of the gate.
DajuanWagner
10-12-2018, 08:22 AM
Game was 45-10 at one point. Jazz have had a poor preseason. Good to see them get going a little.
Sacto is BAD. I don’t know what the under is but take it.
They are undefeated. How is that poor???
the27guy
10-12-2018, 08:48 AM
They are undefeated. How is that poor???
Good question. Their plus/minus with starters on the court against other teams starters has actually been really bad. Sure, they destroyed Sac and the Australian teams, but the starters on the raptors and blazers totally worked them. Lillard was a plus 20 but basically didn’t play in the second half.
So, the good news is that the jazz’s starters and bench have destroyed other team’s bench units.....the bad news is that the only nba starting 5 they played well against is Sacramento.
the27guy
10-12-2018, 08:51 AM
Who has more wins this season Hawks or Kings?
Good question. I’d take Atlanta simply because of strength of schedule. Getting to play the Magic, Nets, Knicks and Bulls more can’t hurt.
theLUCKYshow
10-12-2018, 10:06 AM
Omg Derrick white out 6-8 weeks?
steadned36
10-12-2018, 10:34 AM
Who has more wins this season Hawks or Kings?
Tied @ 21
steadned36
10-12-2018, 10:34 AM
Omg Derrick white out 6-8 weeks?
Really a shame
smalltown
10-12-2018, 10:41 AM
Omg Derrick white out 6-8 weeks?
Just saw this. Crazy. Spurs are not having any kind of luck.
dasiegel
10-12-2018, 11:34 AM
oh man, is this the curse of the kawhi misdiagnosis?
theLUCKYshow
10-12-2018, 11:40 AM
Who has more wins this season Hawks or Kings?I'll homer it up and go Kings. Bogdan will be back mid-November, and he's arguably the Kings best player and the heart of the team. The West is brutal though so I get choosing Atlanta. Also lol someone @ ESPN said Trae Young reminded her of Magic Johnson so skys the limit for Trae and the Hawks.
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darscards35kd
10-13-2018, 10:11 PM
Anybody surprised/impressed by anyone in particular from the preseason?
BigSeph
10-14-2018, 10:04 PM
Anybody surprised/impressed by anyone in particular from the preseason?
Jarrett Allen and Siakam.
2 of the most impressive guys I saw, as far as what they look like compared to the start of last season.
darscards35kd
10-14-2018, 10:06 PM
Siakam definitely seems to have added some elements to his game. Looks a lot more confident and assertive out there. I guess all those Rico Hines pickup runs payed off.
dasiegel
10-14-2018, 11:00 PM
I'll homer it up and go Kings. Bogdan will be back mid-November, and he's arguably the Kings best player and the heart of the team. The West is brutal though so I get choosing Atlanta. Also lol someone @ ESPN said Trae Young reminded her of Magic Johnson so skys the limit for Trae and the Hawks.
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i think it's a wrap this yr for the hawks, they should have the worst record in the league.
Siberian13
10-14-2018, 11:25 PM
i think it's a wrap this yr for the hawks, they should have the worst record in the league.
Hey take that back. They can get 20 wins this season and that’s a victory.
dasiegel
10-14-2018, 11:50 PM
Hey take that back. They can get 20 wins this season and that’s a victory.
no man, that was a compliment, another top pick to go with trae and collins!
smalltown
10-15-2018, 10:11 AM
Jarrett Allen and Siakam.
2 of the most impressive guys I saw, as far as what they look like compared to the start of last season.
They're two of my top five guys from the preseason. Allen really impressed me.
jcardstore
10-15-2018, 11:13 AM
Jarrett Allen and Siakam.
2 of the most impressive guys I saw, as far as what they look like compared to the start of last season.
Siakam is more impressive than I thought but Allen is just building off what was quietly a phenomenal rookie season. He flew under the radar for sure but he's going to have a monster year.
dasiegel
10-15-2018, 02:21 PM
i thought allen could be a thing. i almost bought a few cards. the only problem is that i have a formula:
nets+big man+team with bad record/number of fans that collect nets cards= buy more malik monk cards
Siberian13
10-15-2018, 02:25 PM
no man, that was a compliment, another top pick to go with trae and collins!
Hope the Sixers/Browns method works out
minnesotachill
10-06-2019, 02:44 PM
These are great theads to look back at.
There were a few people that picked up early on Siakam
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