When will Oladipo get the superstar hobby love he deserves ?

[broncomanning18]

Is it possible or can it not happen with the pacers ??? I think most people now realize last year was not a fluke, this guy is a top 10 player in the league when you consider offense and defense. Is he kind of viewed like a damian lillard type as far as really good, but just doesnt get a ton of love?

[ninjacookies]

Doubt it.

Seems more like he's going to be stuck in that Damian Lillard category. Best on his team, clutch, bonafied star and mvp candidate, but just doesn't have the media pull or name brand recognition. Plus smaller market team.

[Ferg1945]

24 pts in first half... against 76ers... on ESPN.

Things are trending upwards for sure.

[ballhawkdawk]

I hate you, Victor Oladipo.

[drobfan8]

Get your team to the NBA finals and he'll gather steam. Until then, he's just another All Star.

[Jin]

He isn't overlooked - he's about where he should be in terms of the hobby. CP3, Dame, JB, PG, Wall, McCollum - all sensational players like Dipo.

I don't think you realize how rare it is for a current NBA star to reach the upper echelon of the hobby. There's many 5-6 current vets with that kind of pull - Curry, Lebron, Giannis, KD, Kawhi, maaaybe AD? And all those guys have are generational type talents

[hofcollector2]

He isn't overlooked - he's about where he should be in terms of the hobby. CP3, Dame, JB, PG, Wall, McCollum - all sensational players like Dipo.

I don't think you realize how rare it is for a current NBA star to reach the upper echelon of the hobby. There's many 5-6 current vets with that kind of pull - Curry, Lebron, Giannis, KD, Kawhi, maaaybe AD? And all those guys have are generational type talents

Maybe AD???

[LC2nine10]

Maybe AD???

He needs to win.
Plus his stuff was CRAZY when it came out.

[broncomanning18]

He isn't overlooked - he's about where he should be in terms of the hobby. CP3, Dame, JB, PG, Wall, McCollum - all sensational players like Dipo.

I don't think you realize how rare it is for a current NBA star to reach the upper echelon of the hobby. There's many 5-6 current vets with that kind of pull - Curry, Lebron, Giannis, KD, Kawhi, maaaybe AD? And all those guys have are generational type talents


true, I see your point, but I do think he is getting there and walls stuff at one point was crazy stupid high, the question is will oladipos stuff ever get crazy hot ?

[SteveO21]

One factor that some people don't think about is that he has been with a few teams now. His rookie year stuff being from his time with Orlando will always be a bit of a handicap on his prices because that's not the team he became a star with. At least that's my opinion.

[broncomanning18]

One factor that some people don't think about is that he has been with a few teams now. His rookie year stuff being from his time with Orlando will always be a bit of a handicap on his prices because that's not the team he became a star with. At least that's my opinion.

I always thought that since he went to indiana and plays for indiana that he would almost be even more beloved, but I guess you are right

[ninjacookies]

true, I see your point, but I do think he is getting there and walls stuff at one point was crazy stupid high, the question is will oladipos stuff ever get crazy hot ?

Super late bloomer. Doesn't really favor his hobby outlook.

John Wall was like many other rookie sensations. Stuff started out scorching hot out the gate then tumbled.

Even Paul George early on, who was a legit 2 way player and regarded by some as a top 5 player when he peaked the year he took them to the ECF...was never in that superstar category.

Kemba Walker's stuff is dirt cheap and he's been known to drop 40+ and kill teams in the 4th.

[broncomanning18]

Super late bloomer. Doesn't really favor his hobby outlook.

John Wall was like many other rookie sensations. Stuff started out scorching hot out the gate then tumbled.

Even Paul George early on, who was a legit 2 way player and regarded by some as a top 5 player when he peaked the year he took them to the ECF...was never in that superstar category.

Kemba Walker's stuff is dirt cheap and he's been known to drop 40+ and kill teams in the 4th.

yeah Kemba is another one who I think deserves more love. You are right though, I guess 6 guys get all the love

[tjforce]

Ya, top 10 player doesn't always mean top 10 hobby star.

Dwight Howard was a top 10 player at one point.

Ben Wallace was too.

So was Joahkim Noah.

[starfox]

Superstar? Ex: Malone, Jordan, Duncan, James, Iverson. Oladipo - somewhere in between semi-star and star.

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[starfox]

Ya, top 10 player doesn't always mean top 10 hobby star.

Dwight Howard was a top 10 player at one point.

Ben Wallace was too.

So was Joahkim Noah.Ben Wallace and Joakim Noah were never top-ten players. Defensively, they were at times, but that's all.

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[starfox]

You're a superstar when non-basketball fans recognize you. Non-basketball fans recognized Iverson and Barkley; the non-fan or casual fan doesn't know Oladipo (or Favors).

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[tjforce]

Ben Wallace and Joakim Noah were never top-ten players. Defensively, they were at times, but that's all.

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The associated press seemed to overwhelming disagree with you back in 2013-14

https://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/awards_2014.html#mvp


Ben Wallace was top 10 in MVP voting 3 years in a row.

I'm not sure Oladipo has achieved either feat.

[starfox]

The associated press seemed to overwhelming disagree with you back in 2013-14

https://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/awards_2014.html#mvp


Ben Wallace was top 10 in MVP voting 3 years in a row.

I'm not sure Oladipo has achieved either feat.See post #17. The AP isn't the only one with an opinion.

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[tjforce]

See post #17. The AP isn't the only one with an opinion.

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You against the world, I guess.

But you are right about one thing, you're right to an opinion. And I won't argue that.

You know what they say about opinions, right?

[rookies]

One factor that some people don't think about is that he has been with a few teams now. His rookie year stuff being from his time with Orlando will always be a bit of a handicap on his prices because that's not the team he became a star with. At least that's my opinion.

Yeah thats a big problem with Lebron cards and why they're so cheap. That cavs stuff now that hes a laker is a no-no. ;)

Kidding.

[tjforce]

Yeah thats a big problem with Lebron cards and why they're so cheap. That cavs stuff now that hes a laker is a no-no. ;)

Kidding.

LOL

I think it's more of a matter of him kind of flaming out with two teams already.

Never really established himself with either fanbase.

LeBron on the other hand, did ok with the Cavs and Heat.

[dasiegel]

he will always kinda be that underdog, i sold his logoman and other sick cards bc he just got no hobby love and i couldn't make the rainbow... which btw the #/5 ntrpa did pop up after i sold off, lol.

still a stud and IU is always in the house.

[derotter]

Ya, top 10 player doesn't always mean top 10 hobby star.

Dwight Howard was a top 10 player at one point.
Ben Wallace was too.
So was Joahkim Noah.

+1

I do believe that Kirilenko & Shawn Marion were also top 10 players between 2003 & 2006 tbh.

Even Paul George early on, who was a legit 2 way player and regarded by some as a top 5 player when he peaked the year he took them to the ECF...was never in that superstar category.

I agree but he was very close to that status in 2014 before his injury. He was at Kawhi's level imho

[tjforce]

+1

I do believe that Kirilenko & Shawn Marion were also top 10 players between 2003 & 2006 tbh.



I agree but he was very close to that status in 2014 before his injury. He was at Kawhi's level imho

Paul George was one big season away from being in the 2nd tier of superstars.

[smalltown]

Indiana. This isn't a knock on Indiana, more a knock on how people perceive Indy. It's always going to be an up hill battle for players from smaller markets (not just Indiana) in general.

Plus he has became a star as a Pacer - obviously fans of the Pacers would rather have cards of him in that uniform which holds back his rookies to a certain extent.

[ballhawkdawk]

Look at a guy like Westbrook. MVP, 2x triple double seasons, decent bit of playoff success. Oladipo’s resume isn’t even close, and Westbrook’s stuff isn’t very expensive comparatively speaking.

[starfox]

Paul George was one big season away from being in the 2nd tier of superstars.Kirilenko and Marion top-ten players at some point? No. Paul George, top-ten player at some point? No, again. The league has really become watered-down.

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[SteveO21]

Yeah thats a big problem with Lebron cards and why they're so cheap. That cavs stuff now that hes a laker is a no-no. ;)

Kidding.

Lebron is a transcendent superstar who, in terms of this hobby, is bigger than the teams he plays for.

[yiguiri2002]

One more thing: it's only been a season and 10 games. Rarely does a 5th year player generates that much excitement at that point.

I think he's almost properly priced. Silver Prizms at 150? I see them eventually getting closer to 200 and staying there.

I think the key for him is staying with the Pacers.

[k13]

LeBron stuff was cheap like 2 years ago so why would anyone want to pay up for oledipo now.

Hype is gone, traded, not a rookie.

Hard to get back that flavor of the week once you been around a few years.

I'm sure he sold better his rookie year.

[CubKings]

Look at another player who spent his first 5 years or so buried on the bench in Portland and then broke out when he was, ironically, traded to Indy... Jermaine O'Neal.

Although, idk about card hype back then, JO turned into a dominant player and several all stars as a Pacer. I'm sure he was hot for a little minute. But now his stuff is probably free.

[SteveO21]

Look at another player who spent his first 5 years or so buried on the bench in Portland and then broke out when he was, ironically, traded to Indy... Jermaine O'Neal.

Although, idk about card hype back then, JO turned into a dominant player and several all stars as a Pacer. I'm sure he was hot for a little minute. But now his stuff is probably free.

Surprisingly some of JO's stuff still sells really well, specifically his Pacers-era high-end stuff.

[mc1]

He deserves nothing, since he has accomplished nothing.

[tennelson55]

Ya, top 10 player doesn't always mean top 10 hobby star.

Dwight Howard was a top 10 player at one point.

Ben Wallace was too.

So was Joahkim Noah.

Ohghhh god.

Look in the mirror at what you are saying to yourself

Other players ahead of him during the 09-10 season
Lebron
Kobe
Paul pierce
Wade
KD
West brick
Aldridge
Dirk
Drose
Bosh
Howard

And I can name 20 more scrubs

[tjforce]

Ohghhh god.

Look in the mirror at what you are saying to yourself

Other players ahead of him during the 09-10 season
Lebron
Kobe
Paul pierce
Wade
KD
West brick
Aldridge
Dirk
Drose
Bosh
Howard

And I can name 20 more scrubs


Yep. Noah was better than many of those players for 1 season.

It was his peak, never to be reached again.

Don't believe me? Thats fine. Enough MVP voters thought that of him that he finished 4th in voting.

Saying that a player was top ten at a snapshot in time is a lot different than saying that someone is a top 10 active career player.

If we were talking to active career players I doubt Oladipo would be top 50 right now.

[tennelson55]

Yep. Noah was better than many of those players for 1 season.

It was his peak, never to be reached again.

Don't believe me? Thats fine. Enough MVP voters thought that of him that he finished 4th in voting.

Saying that a player was top ten at a snapshot in time is a lot different than saying that someone is a top 10 active career player.

If we were talking to active career players I doubt Oladipo would be top 50 right now.

Your premise is substantial.

I don’t believe Noah would be worth more than the players stated above.

As for the argument of top 4 in mvp voting I don’t base my player ratings on mvp votes.

Thibs had a solid squad for Noah to thrive in, but if you replaced him with a player above I’d argue that team would have done more on a general basis. The same goes for Joakim moving teams. On a different team I don’t think he thrives like he did in Chicago

[shawnmenard]

He guys just trade or sell them all to me

[Jsquared123]

Love VO, drafted him in fantasy this year. But let's see him pad that resume a little more and maintain top 10 player status for a few more years. A deeper run into the playoffs this year, a few 40+ point games, triple doubles, or one or two "signature" games like a 50 or even 60+ game, etc.. would help him out. Devin Booker is an inferior player but after he dropped 70, he shot up another level.

[bigunitcards]

on the same day my boy Steven Adams does

[derotter]

Kirilenko and Marion top-ten players at some point? No. Paul George, top-ten player at some point? No, again. The league has really become watered-down.

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Well some facts then:

https://www.boxscoregeeks.com/players?sort=wins_produced&direction=desc&season=2005

https://www.boxscoregeeks.com/players?sort=wins_produced&direction=desc&season=2006

or

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ws_top_10.html

...

Those guys were underappreciated, but among the best

[Joan p]

Ben Wallace and Joakim Noah were never top-ten players. Defensively, they were at times, but that's all.

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Just my 2 cents , but in his prime J. Noah was absolutely a top ten player if not even a little better than that