Harry Giles sent down to G League

[LeonfromNC]

Time to panic, sell or buy?

[theleica]

Isn't his stuff still ridiculously priced?? I'd buy if it was reasonable but $600-$700 for a NT RPA of a player in the G League is a bit much. Not to mention there are none on eBay under $1250 obo.

[Siberian13]

Sell and take your losses like a man!

[smalltown]

He’s where he should be. He needs heavy reps. So this is a positive for him. That said, from a hobby perspective, prices would have to be 20% of where they are now for me to even consider buying.

[Bruin7]

He's 20 right? Kid has the game/ability; just needs some time/reps.

ACS

[Joan p]

He's got fantastic natural court vision that you can't teach. He only had 2 mts of playing time last night ,which I think was a mistake , but if he can't get on the court in Sacramento Stockton is the next best option. Granted I'm prejudice here but I'm still very high on him

[tjforce]

Honestly, this probably good for him. However.....

It just goes to show that his cards are grossly overpriced at the moment.

[dasiegel]

this is a good move for his progress. getting no minutes on the bench is not helpful. if you have his cards you either hold long term or you should've sold already.

[theLUCKYshow]

Do they have G League Pass?

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[teosdesserts]

I have no idea why his cards sell for such ridiculous amounts....

[chuckerrrr]

The hype is real.....Victor Oladipo RPAs are cheaper.




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[thenwhatjk]

I read on here that he’s super awesome

[tier1dc]

I read on here that he’s super awesome

I believe he's touted as the most awesomest.

[WaiverWire]

The Harry Giles threads are always hilarious. Somewhere, somebody is like, "but but but people said he was the next Chris Webber. Chris Webber never would have been sent down to the G league. What do I do with all these overpriced Giles RPAs?"

[minnesotachill]

He's gonna be Co-MVP next year with Thon Maker. If Kevin Garnett says so, it must be true.

[KhalDrogo]

G League

:cry:

[AnthonyCorona]

He came in very hyped, at least around here. Last year when he was practicing at full speed players were talking about how awesome he was. I traded the 2 silver prizms I had a while back. I was gonna go see him in Stockton (half hour away) but tickets are $20 so I'll be in for $60 and my daughter probably wouldn't last past the first quarter

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[splum]

Jeez. Lots of victory laps taken in this thread from people that seemingly have no idea how the g-league works. He's going to play and then immediately rejoin the Kings. This happens literally all year long. Not like baseball where you get called down and you stay there.

[Giantrobot]

Jeez. Lots of victory laps taken in this thread from people that seemingly have no idea how the g-league works. He's going to play and then immediately rejoin the Kings. This happens literally all year long. Not like baseball where you get called down and you stay there.

Exactly! Terry Rozier, Rondo, and players like that have played games in the G League. It’s just recently that teams have been using it properly, and not just as a dumping ground for players who aren’t quite good enough to ever play in the NBA.

[rman112]

Exactly! Terry Rozier, Rondo, and players like that have played games in the G League. It’s just recently that teams have been using it properly, and not just as a dumping ground for players who aren’t quite good enough to ever play in the NBA.

Didn't Rondo go down to the D League for injury rehab after major knee surgery?

[Giantrobot]

Didn't Rondo go down to the D League for injury rehab after major knee surgery?

Yes. Point stands.

[rman112]

Yes. Point stands.

Not exactly comparable to Giles.

[splum]

Not exactly comparable to Giles.

Yeah, but overall this isn't really the death sentence that people celebrating in this thread are trying to make it out to be.

[rman112]

Yeah, but overall this isn't really the death sentence that people celebrating in this thread are trying to make it out to be.

Death sentence? No. But when the guy gets hyped to high heavens, gets an opportunity and struggles mightily, and then gets taken out of the rotation and sent to the minors, the response is what it is.

[splum]

Death sentence? No. But when the guy gets hyped to high heavens, gets an opportunity and struggles mightily, and then gets taken out of the rotation and sent to the minors, the response is what it is.

Fair, but we also don't need to pretend like if he did play up to the lofty expectations there wouldn't be pot shots taken by posters that never in a million years would be buying his cards about how they are too expensive. He has people rooting against him for absolutely no fault of his own.

[rman112]

Fair, but we also don't need to pretend like if he did play up to the lofty expectations there wouldn't be pot shots taken by posters that never in a million years would be buying his cards about how they are too expensive. He has people rooting against him for absolutely no fault of his own.

To be fair, I don't think he reads these forums.. LOL. But seriously though, I see the blowback as being blowback against the hype, as opposed to blowback against Giles (or whoever) personally.

[Noles939913]

The real question is is Z-Bo ever going to play again for the Kings? I read somewhere they aren’t intending on trading him because they like having him around the young guys but don’t intend to ever have him suit up either...bizarre.

[smalltown]

Do they have G League Pass?

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All games are on Facebook live.

[KhalDrogo]

No player needing development in the G League should have an RPA that sells for $700.

Hope it works out for him, but this just shows how absurd the hobby is.

[theLUCKYshow]

All games are on Facebook live.That's pretty cool. Thanks!

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[ninjacookies]

The next Skal La--........






oh wait.

[Jwhoops]

One of the more bizarre pump and dumps I can ever recall in his hobby. Usually they at least pick a good player or a cool looking set. I mean Giles was going to be ridiculous when he had both his knees, but now its like breaking the bank for Kwame Brown in year 3...

[minnesotachill]

Someone please post the video of that sick behind the back pass in preseason.

It's not too late to turn this ship around.

[LeonfromNC]

30 points in his G League Debut!!!!!

Anyone gonna change their mind about their poll answer yet?

[ninjacookies]

30 points in his G League Debut!!!!!

Anyone gonna change their mind about their poll answer yet?

Thought I saw a Lebron-esque pass sprinkled in there tonight.




I'm all-in.

[Ross]

30-4-2 tonight. He’s 20 folks, and has been hampered with two knees. Let him get fully healthy and get a full crack at it before writing him off.


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[WaiverWire]

If he keeps it up, Giles could compete with Jordan McRae, John Jenkins, Willie Reed, or Devonte Graham to be G League MVP.

:coffee:

https://stats.gleague.nba.com/leaders/?Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season

[Giantrobot]

Good article on Giles’s G-League stint. Haters pay special attention to the last paragraph-

https://www.hoop-ball.com/articles/team/why-harry-giles-g-league-assignment-was-the-right-move/

[ljandkg]

He's gonna be Co-MVP next year with Thon Maker. If Kevin Garnett says so, it must be true.

Yeah, not KG's best call. :D:D

[tier1dc]

Good article on Giles’s G-League stint. Haters pay special attention to the last paragraph-

https://www.hoop-ball.com/articles/team/why-harry-giles-g-league-assignment-was-the-right-move/

Why just the last one? The last 2 paragraphs say the same thing. Mr HoopBall must have needed to fill a word minimum.

More playing time is the answer here, which is exactly why Giles’ G-League assignment was the right move. The Kings are playing too well to find regular minutes for him, and even if they did have a bench role that he could fill, he’s likely still better off starting in Stockton and getting as many reps in as possible.

In most cases, G-League demotions are viewed as a sign of trouble for talented young players, but Giles’ situation is far from normal. It would have been great to see him start the season as a contributor to the team’s current success, but that just wasn’t a likely outcome based on his circumstances. Giles is still full of potential, and it wouldn’t be surprising to see him play a real role for the Kings later in the season, but for now he’s better off gaining experience in Stockton.

[KhalDrogo]

30-4-2 tonight. He’s 20 folks, and has been hampered with two knees. Let him get fully healthy and get a full crack at it before writing him off.
It's been 25 months since his last knee surgery, which was an arthroscopic procedure. He didn't need surgery last year. The Kings just held him out for precautionary purposes. So how long does he need before he can be declared healthy?

[Siberian13]

30 points in his G League Debut!!!!!

Anyone gonna change their mind about their poll answer yet?

Time to start buying again guys. 30 points against high level competition! :)!

[Giantrobot]

Why just the last one? The last 2 paragraphs say the same thing. Mr HoopBall must have needed to fill a word minimum.

Umm, no. He elaborates and explains the situation in the second paragraph. He doesn’t say the same thing. How about-just read the whole damn article. It’s short.

[jcardstore]

Couldn't care any less about his card prices but I really do think the G-League is the best for not only his development but his confidence as well.

[jcardstore]

Umm, no. He elaborates and explains the situation in the second paragraph. He doesn’t say the same thing. How about-just read the whole damn article. It’s short.

You gotta understand that BO doesn't really do well with actual analysis and words.

Now if you would have shared an article on his "hobby outlook" everyone would have been here breaking it down word by word.

[ballhawkdawk]

Do I sell my Harry Giles cards now for $15 or wait until he gets hot again and sell them for $25? Decisions decisions...

Really, I'd love to see him develop into the player people are hyping him to be. The more talent, the better the game is as a fan. I didn't see much of Sacramento this year, but he had a few real nice passes in the preseason that showed flashes of well above average court awareness for a big man.

[theleica]

I really like Harry Giles and hope he has a great career. I hope his prices come down to earth so I can pick up a few more.

[bradical]

The G-League can do wonders for your career.

- Hassan Whiteside

[Giantrobot]

You gotta understand that BO doesn't really do well with actual analysis and words.

Now if you would have shared an article on his "hobby outlook" everyone would have been here breaking it down word by word.

This is true. My bad. Gotta remember where I’m at.

[jr24ai3]

30 points in his G League Debut!!!!!

Anyone gonna change their mind about their poll answer yet?


30? Big deal. Jimmer had 75!

[Ross]

It's been 25 months since his last knee surgery, which was an arthroscopic procedure. He didn't need surgery last year. The Kings just held him out for precautionary purposes. So how long does he need before he can be declared healthy?



He’s played 300 total minutes of competitive basketball in the last 2.5-3 years. He’s got the potential and the stretch/ playmaking that teams crave. I’m just saying we haven’t seen the last of harry Giles


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[WaiverWire]

He’s played 300 total minutes of competitive basketball in the last 2.5-3 years. He’s got the potential and the stretch/ playmaking that teams crave. I’m just saying we haven’t seen the last of harry Giles


Giles may end up having a solid NBA career, but I think the pump-n-dump hype train on this guy has probably run its course. Which is fine. Happens every year. :)

[Ross]

Giles may end up having a solid NBA career, but I think the pump-n-dump hype train on this guy has probably run its course. Which is fine. Happens every year. :)


Fair enough but national outlets gave him the dark horse for ROY and the Kong’s said he was a stud internally. I’m a buyer :)


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[WaiverWire]

Fair enough but national outlets gave him the dark horse for ROY and the Kong’s said he was a stud internally. I’m a buyer :)


It's a strong rookie crop this year. Barring injuries, it's going to be Doncic, Ayton or Young for ROY. If there is any dark horse ROY candidate from Sacramento, it's Bagley - not Giles.

https://ca.nba.com/news/rookie-of-the-year-rankings-luka-doncic-deandre-ayton-trae-young/t1l1q8bpz2hg1846sw5u7mzyl

[Ross]

It's a strong rookie crop this year. Barring injuries, it's going to be Doncic, Ayton or Young for ROY. If there is any dark horse ROY candidate from Sacramento, it's Bagley - not Giles.



https://ca.nba.com/news/rookie-of-the-year-rankings-luka-doncic-deandre-ayton-trae-young/t1l1q8bpz2hg1846sw5u7mzyl



Obviously but preseason the hype was national too, not just us here lol


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[Joan p]

The next Skal La--........






oh wait.
I want your Skal"s

[ballhawkdawk]

Obviously but preseason the hype was national too, not just us here lol


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Right... which is why I dont understand the "pump and dump" thing. It's easy in hindsight to say such a thing once Giles doesn't pan out (for now), but why not assume that a few people here were just legit excited about the idea of this guy being a bit of a hidden gem talent? I just dont see where the actual proof is that a handful of hobby enthusiasts drove this guy's stock to where it was with the intention of cashing in. There is a lot of pessimism around here, or maybe Im just naive.

[Ross]

Right... which is why I dont understand the "pump and dump" thing. It's easy in hindsight to say such a thing once Giles doesn't pan out (for now), but why not assume that a few people here were just legit excited about the idea of this guy being a bit of a hidden gem talent? I just dont see where the actual proof is that a handful of hobby enthusiasts drove this guy's stock to where it was with the intention of cashing in. There is a lot of pessimism around here, or maybe Im just naive.


I agree! Look I sensed excitement around his key rookies more than anything. That plus all major national outlets believed the same!


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[jcardstore]

Right... which is why I dont understand the "pump and dump" thing. It's easy in hindsight to say such a thing once Giles doesn't pan out (for now), but why not assume that a few people here were just legit excited about the idea of this guy being a bit of a hidden gem talent? I just dont see where the actual proof is that a handful of hobby enthusiasts drove this guy's stock to where it was with the intention of cashing in. There is a lot of pessimism around here, or maybe Im just naive.

There are a couple "pump and dump" guys here on BO who've been doing it consistently for years.

Lucky is not one of them. I think the guy was just genuinely excited about Giles. His prices were out of control long before people were talking about them here.

More often than not, when a thread is created about a guy who's had little or no measurable NBA success after they have 1 halfway decent game it's a pump job. You know those "how good is this guy in the hobby" type threads

[dherm360]

I care more about Harry Styles and One D then Harry Giles and the D league

[LeonfromNC]

Just called back up to the kings!

Buy buy buy

[theleica]

Just called back up to the kings!

Buy buy buy

Hopefully the 30 point game spikes prices 100% so his cards are further out of my reach.

[dasiegel]

Right... which is why I dont understand the "pump and dump" thing. It's easy in hindsight to say such a thing once Giles doesn't pan out (for now), but why not assume that a few people here were just legit excited about the idea of this guy being a bit of a hidden gem talent? I just dont see where the actual proof is that a handful of hobby enthusiasts drove this guy's stock to where it was with the intention of cashing in. There is a lot of pessimism around here, or maybe Im just naive.

There are a couple "pump and dump" guys here on BO who've been doing it consistently for years.

Lucky is not one of them. I think the guy was just genuinely excited about Giles. His prices were out of control long before people were talking about them here.

More often than not, when a thread is created about a guy who's had little or no measurable NBA success after they have 1 halfway decent game it's a pump job. You know those "how good is this guy in the hobby" type threads

People on here overrate the idea of pump and dump. Most accusers are either pump and dumpers themselves or just trolling because that's their thing. Very few people on BO can spark an entire market change. Most people are legit excited about their team, the player they PC or actually at least believe what they say.

[theLUCKYshow]

Right... which is why I dont understand the "pump and dump" thing. It's easy in hindsight to say such a thing once Giles doesn't pan out (for now), but why not assume that a few people here were just legit excited about the idea of this guy being a bit of a hidden gem talent? I just dont see where the actual proof is that a handful of hobby enthusiasts drove this guy's stock to where it was with the intention of cashing in. There is a lot of pessimism around here, or maybe Im just naive.Ding ding ding!

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[minnesotachill]

I think a few people can have a huge affect on a guys prices, especially on a board like this one.

You'd be surprised at how many people do nothing on these boards but just lurk around. Maybe thousands, who knows?

I will give you guys credit though. What you guys pulled off is probably one of the most impressive things I've seen in the hobby in a long time.

[splum]

I think a few people can have a huge affect on a guys prices, especially on a board like this one.

You'd be surprised at how many people do nothing on these boards but just lurk around. Maybe thousands, who knows?

I will give you guys credit though. What you guys pulled off is probably one of the most impressive things I've seen in the hobby in a long time.

https://media.giphy.com/media/Fml0fgAxVx1eM/giphy.gif

[theLUCKYshow]

Lucky is not one of them. I think the guy was just genuinely excited about Giles. His prices were out of control long before people were talking about them here.

I appreciate that jcardstore. And you are correct!

The whole reason I joined Blowout was to acquire more Harry Giles hence my signature. The Harry market was already on fire, and there was just no more of his stuff to acquire on Ebay. When I stumbled across some Giles listings on the blowout marketplace I finally registered and joined. My 1st deal was for a Giles cracked ice I had been searching for months which I acquired from another new member also making his first deal, Mr. Splum himself. We popped each other's cherries;p I bought like 5 or 6 Giles the 1st month on these boards and was hooked on the community.

At the same time as I'm joining BO the Showoff your Harry Giles thread starts up. What am I going to do? Not show them off? Hide my enthusiasm? I mean I was Harry Giles #1 collector, right? I kind of geeked out and made that thread my own. I always stated, though, I was clearly biased being a die-hard Kings fan plus a Giles supercollector. I thought that gave me a license to geek I guess.

Funny thing is in the early days of that thread a lot of the talk was how myself and others were paying too much for his stuff. I really underestimated how many people on BO were unaware of how hot his cards were even before the thread started. When I bought Giles' 1st NT RPA off Ebay for $500obo, I was actually GRILLED on these forums for overpaying. I was ecstatic. In fact in the Guess How much NT RPAs Thread I had said I'd buy Giles at $500 all day (grilled again). Fact is the way his market had been trending $500 was a bargain. His silvers were already reaching DSJ levels, and DSJ NT sellers were looking for $2k+. The 1st 15 or so Giles NT sales were all BIN OBO, ranging from $425-$555. I bought 8 of them plus two /15s for $625 and 750ish. I hunted them down seconds after being posted. Then some Giles auctions started, and some of his horizontals started selling for $400, $500, $600. His horizontals! Then his True RPAs started going on auction. $700, $800, $900! I knew I was getting a deal but didnt know it was that much! All of this was discussed in the thread, the "OMG what's happening with Giles prices!" stuff. Sellers were just unaware of how hot Giles' market was, and were content with $500 instead of risking an auction. Once sellers started running auctions, the market simply corrected itself, not some great pump and dump scandal every other person on here seems to believe in.

Now the "dumping" part. I've sold all my NT RPAs except one, and recently sold a large lot to a fellow member here. Yes it feels kinda dirty selling my "PC" guy but it was hard for me to pass up on $1800s for his PSA10 RPAs, and $2k+ for his /15s, especially when I've used those funds to pickup a bunch of cards I've always wanted like an 86 fleer Jordan. And I still have a very nice Giles PC, one of almost everything, that will stay in my collection forever. Although I'm no longer looking for Giles cards, I keep my signature because it reminds me of why I joined this forum.

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[theLUCKYshow]

Someone please post the video of that sick behind the back pass in preseason.

It's not too late to turn this ship around.Just for you buddy!

https://youtu.be/4Ecj23S2xGg

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[steadned36]

Mr. Harold put up 30/4/2 en Stockton.

[LeonfromNC]

He’s baccckk

So far 8 pts 3 reb in 8 mins off the bench.

Buy buy buy

[Ross]

https://www.sacbee.com/sports/nba/sacramento-kings/article221560205.html

He’s back up. ;)


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[LeonfromNC]

I’ll be honest Giles looks like a completely different player right now

Wow

That’s the Harry Giles I saw in preseason

[theLUCKYshow]

I’ll be honest Giles looks like a completely different player right now

Wow

That’s the Harry Giles I saw in preseasonSolid outing from him. Glad the G-league gave him some confidence. Now let's win this Kings!

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[ReggieEvansPC]

I appreciate that jcardstore. And you are correct!

The whole reason I joined Blowout was to acquire more Harry Giles hence my signature. The Harry market was already on fire, and there was just no more of his stuff to acquire on Ebay. When I stumbled across some Giles listings on the blowout marketplace I finally registered and joined. My 1st deal was for a Giles cracked ice I had been searching for months which I acquired from another new member also making his first deal, Mr. Splum himself. We popped each other's cherries;p I bought like 5 or 6 Giles the 1st month on these boards and was hooked on the community.

At the same time as I'm joining BO the Showoff your Harry Giles thread starts up. What am I going to do? Not show them off? Hide my enthusiasm? I mean I was Harry Giles #1 collector, right? I kind of geeked out and made that thread my own. I always stated, though, I was clearly biased being a die-hard Kings fan plus a Giles supercollector. I thought that gave me a license to geek I guess.

Funny thing is in the early days of that thread a lot of the talk was how myself and others were paying too much for his stuff. I really underestimated how many people on BO were unaware of how hot his cards were even before the thread started. When I bought Giles' 1st NT RPA off Ebay for $500obo, I was actually GRILLED on these forums for overpaying. I was ecstatic. In fact in the Guess How much NT RPAs Thread I had said I'd buy Giles at $500 all day (grilled again). Fact is the way his market had been trending $500 was a bargain. His silvers were already reaching DSJ levels, and DSJ NT sellers were looking for $2k+. The 1st 15 or so Giles NT sales were all BIN OBO, ranging from $425-$555. I bought 8 of them plus two /15s for $625 and 750ish. I hunted them down seconds after being posted. Then some Giles auctions started, and some of his horizontals started selling for $400, $500, $600. His horizontals! Then his True RPAs started going on auction. $700, $800, $900! I knew I was getting a deal but didnt know it was that much! All of this was discussed in the thread, the "OMG what's happening with Giles prices!" stuff. Sellers were just unaware of how hot Giles' market was, and were content with $500 instead of risking an auction. Once sellers started running auctions, the market simply corrected itself, not some great pump and dump scandal every other person on here seems to believe in.

Now the "dumping" part. I've sold all my NT RPAs except one, and recently sold a large lot to a fellow member here. Yes it feels kinda dirty selling my "PC" guy but it was hard for me to pass up on $1800s for his PSA10 RPAs, and $2k+ for his /15s, especially when I've used those funds to pickup a bunch of cards I've always wanted like an 86 fleer Jordan. And I still have a very nice Giles PC, one of almost everything, that will stay in my collection forever. Although I'm no longer looking for Giles cards, I keep my signature because it reminds me of why I joined this forum.

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You were doing ok, until you mentioned the NT sales. :coffee:

[theLUCKYshow]

You were doing ok, until you mentioned the NT sales. :coffee:Just telling the real story so people can stop making up crazy stuff. If it makes me look bad then so be it.



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[splum]

Hey where are all the bad posters from page 1 this morning?

Postponed the "We Were Right About Harry Giles Victory Parade" have you?

[Ross]

Hey where are all the bad posters from page 1 this morning?

Postponed the "We Were Right About Harry Giles Victory Parade" have you?



Lol


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[splum]

Lol


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I'm just poking fun. I'm definitely of the mind that a performance off the bench like his last night doesn't make him or anything. But also don't think a few DNP-CDs and a g-league stint doesn't break him.

[Ross]

I'm just poking fun. I'm definitely of the mind that a performance off the bench like his last night doesn't make him or anything. But also don't think a few DNP-CDs and a g-league stint doesn't break him.



No I loved your comment. This kid is basically a year removed from high school. But people forget that and also forget that he’s everything the nba wants. He’s tall and can shoot/ stretch the court. He’s got amazing court vision and has all the skills to be a baller. I just think it’s funny how quick people make assumptions anymore. Perhaps they see a chance to have him play daily and will continue to have him go at both levels.


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[theLUCKYshow]

No I loved your comment. This kid is basically a year removed from high school. But people forget that and also forget that he’s everything the nba wants. He’s tall and can shoot/ stretch the court. He’s got amazing court vision and has all the skills to be a baller. I just think it’s funny how quick people make assumptions anymore. Perhaps they see a chance to have him play daily and will continue to have him go at both levels.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI definitely see him going back down a few times this season for a game here and there. The Kings moved their G-league affiliate from Reno to Stockton basically for that reason.

One of the main reasons Giles played last night was because Kosta was unavailable. I think the Kings knew this before they sent Giles down. They wanted him to get some reps, knock off some dust, and build some confidence before throwing him back out there. It paid off last night.

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[Zacy87]

The problem is that people hyped him up so much that it got a little crazy. He didn't even have a great game yesterday and it's "see I told you he's legit" because he went 6/10 from the field.

He also had 5 PF and 3 TO in 16 mins. He has potential but people need to pump the breaks with him.

[splum]

The problem is that people hyped him up so much that it got a little crazy. He didn't even have a great game yesterday and it's "see I told you he's legit" because he went 6/10 from the field.

He also had 5 PF and 3 TO in 16 mins. He has potential but people need to pump the breaks with him.

What's the problem with this exactly? I know it's extremely The Internet In 2018 to want to run counter to anyones excitement literally about anything but people (re: Kings fans) getting excited about a young player on their team is the exact opposite of a problem for you and me.

[Zacy87]

What's the problem with this exactly? I know it's extremely The Internet In 2018 to want to run counter to anyones excitement literally about anything but people (re: Kings fans) getting excited about a young player on their team is the exact opposite of a problem for you and me.

No problem with excitement. Over hyping and being over excited usually results in disappointment.

Kings fans just need to temper their expectations a little bit.

[dasiegel]

Hey where are all the bad posters from page 1 this morning?

Postponed the "We Were Right About Harry Giles Victory Parade" have you?

No I loved your comment. This kid is basically a year removed from high school. But people forget that and also forget that he’s everything the nba wants. He’s tall and can shoot/ stretch the court. He’s got amazing court vision and has all the skills to be a baller. I just think it’s funny how quick people make assumptions anymore. Perhaps they see a chance to have him play daily and will continue to have him go at both levels.


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The problem is that people hyped him up so much that it got a little crazy. He didn't even have a great game yesterday and it's "see I told you he's legit" because he went 6/10 from the field.

He also had 5 PF and 3 TO in 16 mins. He has potential but people need to pump the breaks with him.

I mean that is about as efficient of a statline as one can have in 15 minutes. There are a lot of angry haters today viewing this. Complaining that people were pump and dumping and hyping etc is so tiring. This is a basketball section, people are going to discuss guys who are hot. He killed it in the Summer league, articles and press were why he got hot, not Blowoutcards basketball section. Be happy the kid is playing well, some of our fellow members have his cards, some of our fellow members are Kings fans... be happy!

[splum]

Be happy the kid is playing well, some of our fellow members have his cards, some of our fellow members are Kings fans... be happy!

I wholeheartedly agree with this. I'll always root for a guy with an injury history like his to succeed.

[smalltown]

I mean that is about as efficient of a statline as one can have in 15 minutes.

I'm happy for Kings fans. I was happy the organization sent him down to the G to get run. I hope they do it again. I want him to succeed - there's nothing worse than injuries deciding someones future.

But let's not go overboard here. All he did was score - otherwise he was a mess on the court. 3 turnovers, 5 fouls and a minus 2 in 15 minutes is far, far from efficient. It's actually quite bad.

I think he'll get better. So it's not the end of the world. But lets not pretend this was a break out game. If anything it might keep him on the bench more than it helps him get off it.

[LeonfromNC]

I’m a huge kings fan and I don’t ever think his card prices will ever get to where they were this offseason.

EVER.

[theLUCKYshow]

No problem with excitement. Over hyping and being over excited usually results in disappointment.

Kings fans just need to temper their expectations a little bit.

Hype is the nature of the beast when it comes to rookies because we just don't know how good of a player they will turn out to be even if they have an outstanding rookie season. Every rookie whose cards have decent value have "hype". Do you really think a PSA 10 NT RPA Tatum deserves to be a $20k card right now, or is a part of that value derived from the "hype" of what type of player he might become. Same goes for Ben Simmons with Silver Prizm PSA10 selling for $1500+. Those guys are the real most "hyped" players in the league right now, period.



...articles and press were why he got hot, not Blowoutcards basketball section. Be happy the kid is playing well, some of our fellow members have his cards, some of our fellow members are Kings fans... be happy!

Exactly. This kid has had "hype" since he was a sophomore in high school. Mindboggling to think people think these forums created the hype. In some ways, Giles' threads create just as much "anti-hype" as anything else. I think some people got really upset because they personally didnt know who this kid was and didnt think he deserved the attention. I don't know.

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[Siberian13]

I'm still in the boat of sell and take your losses.

[theLUCKYshow]

Double post

[Zacy87]

Hype is the nature of the beast when it comes to rookies because we just don't know how good of a player they will turn out to be even if they have an outstanding rookie season. Every rookie whose cards have decent value have "hype". Do you really think a PSA 10 NT RPA Tatum deserves to be a $20k card right now, or is a part of that value derived from the "hype" of what type of player he might become. Same goes for Ben Simmons with Silver Prizm PSA10 selling for $1500+. Those guys are the real most "hyped" players in the league right now, period.





Exactly. This kid has had "hype" since he was a sophomore in high school. Mindboggling to think people think these forums created the hype. In some ways, Giles' threads create just as much "anti-hype" as anything else. I think some people got really upset because they personally didnt know who this kid was and didnt think he deserved the attention. I don't know.

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The fact you're mentioning Simmons and Tatum in the same hype conversation says everything though.

[theLUCKYshow]

The fact you're mentioning Simmons and Tatum in the same hype conversation says everything though.Are you kidding me? Geez frickin louise you're missing my point!! I give up, retards win.

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[splum]

Are you kidding me? Geez frickin louise you're missing my point!! I give up, retards win.

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Haha. I think we'll find that people are just predetermined to just not like something that lots of people do like. That's what this all boils down to. Not about card prices or hype. Just about their own desire to swim against the current.

[theLUCKYshow]

Haha. I think we'll find that people are just predetermined to just not like something that lots of people do like. That's what this all boils down to. Not about card prices or hype. Just about their own desire to swim against the current.Get ready for the Galactic haters. They're gonna say we don't really like them, we're just "hyping" it up. I honestly don't want to deal with that crap. Gonna stick to IG for all Galactic related stuff where we can just enjoy each others collections instead of accusing and assuming the worst.

#galacticboyz

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[Zacy87]

Or maybe someone disagrees with you and people are able to have different opinions? I don't see it with Giles. A select few do and other don't. When someone says Giles isn't as great as he's been hyped up to be, you take it as an attack. The fact you choose to say "retards win" shows me what kind of person you are. You don't agree with an opinion so you attack the person with a word like that which would get you slapped or punched in most places if you said that out loud.

Do you buddy.

[theLUCKYshow]

Or maybe someone disagrees with you and people are able to have different opinions? I don't see it with Giles. A select few do and other don't. When someone says Giles isn't as great as he's been hyped up to be, you take it as an attack. The fact you choose to say "retards win" shows me what kind of person you are. You don't agree with an opinion so you attack the person with a word like that which would get you slapped or punched in most places if you said that out loud.

Do you buddy.

You should go back and actually read what I write. I've been critical of Giles many times myself and am very open to criticism of his play. Your opinion wasn't on his play. You said something like mentioning Simmons and Tatum in the thread spoke volumes. Maybe I misunderstood that. Care to elaborate?

Also sorry if you self-identify as a retard and took offense.

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[Zacy87]

You should go back and actually read what I write. I've been critical of Giles many times myself and am very open to criticism of his play. Your opinion wasn't on his play. You said something like mentioning Simmons and Tatum in the thread spoke volumes. Maybe I misunderstood that. Care to elaborate?

Also sorry if you self-identify as a retard and took offense.

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I'm good, thanks.

[theLUCKYshow]

Let me help you out then:Solid outing from him. Glad the G-league gave him some confidence. Now let's win this Kings!

Sent from my SM-N960U using TapatalkI definitely see him going back down a few times this season for a game here and there. The Kings moved their G-league affiliate from Reno to Stockton basically for that reason.

One of the main reasons Giles played last night was because Kosta was unavailable. I think the Kings knew this before they sent Giles down. They wanted him to get some reps, knock off some dust, and build some confidence before throwing him back out there. It paid off last night.

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[minnesotachill]

You say that you PC Giles, and yet looking back at the past events.

Started a Giles "Show-off" Thread to hype the guy to the moon!

Every good thing said about him was "breaking news", every 15 point preseason game and he's made out to be the 2nd coming of KG. :doh:

You bought up a massive amount of Giles cards, rode the hype until the prices were right and sold at a huge profit.

If that isn't the complete opposite of PCing a guy, then I don't know what is.

If I'm PCing someone, I keep thing on the downlow. The last thing I want people to know is how good my player is.

And if you're just so excited about this guy and his potential, why not just post on the Kings message board, or some NBA message boards.

[theLUCKYshow]

You say that you PC Giles, and yet looking back at the past events.

Started a Giles "Show-off" Thread to hype the guy to the moon!

Every good thing said about him was "breaking news", every 15 point preseason game and he's made out to be the 2nd coming of KG. :doh:

You bought up a massive amount of Giles cards, rode the hype until the prices were right and sold at a huge profit.

If that isn't the complete opposite of PCing a guy, then I don't know what is.

If I'm PCing someone, I keep thing on the downlow. The last thing I want people to know is how good my player is.

And if you're just so excited about this guy and his potential, why not just post on the Kings message board, or some NBA message boards.Sigh... I've never started any Giles thread. Yes, I've been a very active participant in them. Shoot me.

Judge me if you'd like. I invested in this kid hoping he would have a great rookie season, then I could sell off my duplicates for profit. Shoot me.

His NT cards increased in value 2x-4x within 2 months. I was torn. It was kinda like an FOTL dilemma: make a profit quickly or wait and hold for potential future gains (obviously FOTL has much less risk). I decided to cash in a lot of them. I even posted in the thread I was selling some Giles cards because I couldn't ignore the spike. Would ignoring the profit make me a "truer" collector? Probably. Shoot me.

I continue to be a Giles fan and comment on threads that pertain to him. Shoot me.

Beats me why you're in this thread.

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[minnesotachill]

Beats me why you're in this thread.


Beats me why threads on Harry Giles even exist on here.

[theLUCKYshow]

I think some people got really upset because they personally didnt know who this kid was and didnt think he deserved the attention. I don't know.

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Beats me why you're in this thread.


Beats me why threads on Harry Giles even exist on here.



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[dasiegel]

I'm happy for Kings fans. I was happy the organization sent him down to the G to get run. I hope they do it again. I want him to succeed - there's nothing worse than injuries deciding someones future.

But let's not go overboard here. All he did was score - otherwise he was a mess on the court. 3 turnovers, 5 fouls and a minus 2 in 15 minutes is far, far from efficient. It's actually quite bad.

I think he'll get better. So it's not the end of the world. But lets not pretend this was a break out game. If anything it might keep him on the bench more than it helps him get off it.

I mean I guess that argument is all dependent on what you see and how you look at stats. I'm not a +- guy so to me while the 5 fouls was bad and 3 Os is not a surprise for a young player after being sent ot the G-League. I'm more impressed with 6-10 12 pts, 6 rebounds 1 assist and 1 steal. Not sure how that keeps him on the bench. If anything, he is on the bench because WCS has been lights out and Bjelica has had a stellar start shooting over 50% from the field and 3s.

I’m a huge kings fan and I don’t ever think his card prices will ever get to where they were this offseason.

EVER.

I guess we have to decide, is this thread about his prices or his progress. It is titled that he was sent down to the g league.


Sigh... I've never started any Giles thread. Yes, I've been a very active participant in them. Shoot me.

Judge me if you'd like. I invested in this kid hoping he would have a great rookie season, then I could sell off my duplicates for profit. Shoot me.

His NT cards increased in value 2x-4x within 2 months. I was torn. It was kinda like an FOTL dilemma: make a profit quickly or wait and hold for potential future gains (obviously FOTL has much less risk). I decided to cash in a lot of them. I even posted in the thread I was selling some Giles cards because I couldn't ignore the spike. Would ignoring the profit make me a "truer" collector? Probably. Shoot me.

I continue to be a Giles fan and comment on threads that pertain to him. Shoot me.

Beats me why you're in this thread.

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I was the one who started the Giles thread... in May. Before Summer League. Before prices were nuts. Before any hype could affect prices. It was a talking point because I kept reading about how this guy had been the best King at practices and had returned to the form that had him #1 in the country. I had picked up an NTRPA and some SP parallels, I think I had 3 cards. Lucky came in and had already amassed a monster collection of top stuff. So yea, don't worry, any non troll knows you are innocent in your BO trial.

[LeonfromNC]

It’s about both. Again I’m a kings fan but what went down this preseason was absolutely amazing in regards to pumping and dumping or hyping and selling at the highest point and just plain out flipping cards on hype while duping others in the process.

Whatever you want to call it, it sure was amazing

I love it.

[smalltown]

I mean I guess that argument is all dependent on what you see and how you look at stats. I'm not a +- guy so to me while the 5 fouls was bad and 3 Os is not a surprise for a young player after being sent ot the G-League. I'm more impressed with 6-10 12 pts, 6 rebounds 1 assist and 1 steal. Not sure how that keeps him on the bench. If anything, he is on the bench because WCS has been lights out and Bjelica has had a stellar start shooting over 50% from the field and 3s.

It's not just plus/minus. He's a net negative being on the floor. Scoring is one of the worst indicators of being a "good" NBA player. That said i do expect him to get better. But my point is this was not efficient at all. Quite the opposite.

[theLUCKYshow]

I was the one who started the Giles thread...
It's crazy people getting so upset about a "showoff your Giles cards" thread on a basketball card forum.




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[dasiegel]

It's not just plus/minus. He's a net negative being on the floor. Scoring is one of the worst indicators of being a "good" NBA player. That said i do expect him to get better. But my point is this was not efficient at all. Quite the opposite.

he's no pascal siakam... yet!!!

[smalltown]

he's no pascal siakam... yet!!!

Haha. It's why i keep saying Giles will/can get better. I don't ever think a guy is really "done" until they hit 25/26. That's when they should be the player they're going to be. But ya you can get 15 Siakam RPAs for the price of a Giles lol

[dasiegel]

Haha. It's why i keep saying Giles will/can get better. I don't ever think a guy is really "done" until they hit 25/26. That's when they should be the player they're going to be. But ya you can get 15 Siakam RPAs for the price of a Giles lol

hmmm, are you hyping siakam or pump and dumping him lol

[smalltown]

hmmm, are you hyping siakam or pump and dumping him lol

Neither. I don’t want prices to go up. Lol

[irfuji]

As a Duke fan it sucks to see Giles go through this. But this is his second injury. After the first one in college caused him to miss so many games and after finally getting on the court I thought he really should've stayed another year.

Hopefully he recovers and doesn't get injured again. He has the potential but I think it's a good 2-3 years of no injury ball before he even gets consistent playing time on the court, let alone start.

[nflfans4ever]

When everybody was buying Giles I was buying Levert.
Crazy prices if you ask me...didnt show of anything to like so far.

[ReggieEvansPC]

3 fouls in 3 minutes...

:coffee:

[Giantrobot]

A rookie that fouls too much?

WHAT

[tmgrnzx9r]

He’s hyper aggressive. If he calms down with the fouling a bit, watch out!

[ReggieEvansPC]

For what it's worth and in relation the OP poll, I've seen three separate sales of Giles collections in the past three days.

[smalltown]

For what it's worth and in relation the OP poll, I've seen three separate sales of Giles collections in the past three days.

I've noticed that as well. There's a pretty heavy sell off going on. Good time for the true believers who are left.