Magic Stepping Down!

[hanstess]

http://http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26482680/magic-stepping-lakers-president

[SelfDestruct808]

Is he positive?

[goldkobe]

Crazyyyy but probably better for the lakers

[the27guy]

Lakers gonna laker.

Man.

What a wild situation!

[JackMart916]

Is he positive?

Too easy

[goldkobe]

Lakers gonna laker.

Man.

What a wild situation!

Always drama in LaLa land :D

[SelfDestruct808]

I blame Ramona

[spurs50fan]

But I thought this year was as expected?

[ntgm37]

Insane. Bron in, Magic/Walton (sure he is next) out.

[majestik101]

Good decision by him. He saw the writing on the wall, next Walton will get axed. That team needs a shake-up.

[Starman101]

Cant believe it

I really am shocked

Whats Lebron gonna do now?

[Ferg1945]

Magic doing his best sell job on Ingram, Kuzma and Ball!! :)!

If you're listening Pelicans.... these 3 are gonna be good... and oh btw... they are available for the Center/PF guy you have. The guy with one brow... just saying.... Lakers are willing to wheel and deal!!!

[LC2nine10]

Way less messy than I thought. I'm sure it won't be the last resignation/firing. Let's see what gm bronbron can do. I assume hiring leu is a forgeon conclusion now.

[cornelljw]

Respect the decision from Magic. Time to move on

[BC81]

Cant believe it

I really am shocked

Whats Lebron gonna do now?



Lebron going to be the first player/coach/GM


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[kingofsnake]

Magic was a great player, but a dismal executive and coach. How he and Isiah keep getting jobs is mystifying.

[jubei777]

Good. He was terrible in a management position.

[goehring9]

Magic was a great player, but a dismal executive and coach. How he and Isiah keep getting jobs is mystifying.


Exactly. Great player does not translate to great management. Magic has plenty of other businesses he can go back to


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[Gurds]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1115784544089780229?s=19

[LeonfromNC]

The curse of Lavar Ball lives on

[WalterAZ31]

does anyone still have any respect for that clown? one of the biggest jokes ever as far as player turned front office position

i love how the Dodgers still can't win anything since hes been with them too.

[imbluestreak23]

This has to be the lakers low point right?

[cardmole]

This has to be the lakers low point right?

Not quite.....Smush Parker

[hanstess]

does anyone still have any respect for that clown? one of the biggest jokes ever as far as player turned front office position

i love how the Dodgers still can't win anything since hes been with them too.

The Dodgers haven’t won anything since Fred Claire was the GM

[NinjaJohnny]

Luke outlasted Magic. Lol

[TMQ]

Once the news broke that Magic and Walton hadn't even spoken to each other in WEEKS the writing was on the wall.

[ninjacookies]

Is he positive?

Post of the day.

[GoldPanner]

The Lakers are such a mess I love it

[gymratcards]

Wiil LeBron now officially own the title Player/Coach/GM?

[RYBOWSKI97]

its lebron, he runs everyone out of town everywhere he goes. forever grateful for the chip he got for cleveland but he is nothing but drama.

[ucLAkers]

Kobe taking over...now Lebron is #2 again.

[mfw13]

Magic was a great player, but a dismal executive and coach. How he and Isiah keep getting jobs is mystifying.

Bingo....the evidence has shown, across all sports, that former superstars make lousy executives....it's not just Magic & Isiah....Bird was both a lousy coach and GM, and Mullin struggled with the Warriors.

The main exception would be Jerry West in basketball, and to a lesser extent Frank Robinson in baseball.

[Pathora]

Bingo....the evidence has shown, across all sports, that former superstars make lousy executives....it's not just Magic & Isiah....Bird was both a lousy coach and GM, and Mullin struggled with the Warriors.

The main exception would be Jerry West in basketball, and to a lesser extent Frank Robinson in baseball.

Not sure how Larry Bird gets put into the lousy category, Pacers didn't win a title but an NBA Finals + 2 ECF in his 3 years as coach. The early 2000's teams were ruined by the brawl, and the 2010-14 run was exciting just stopped by LeBron and the PG injury. Larry had his misses sure but not in the Magic/Isiah/Jordan level of bad.

[cornelljw]

Not sure how Larry Bird gets put into the lousy category, Pacers didn't win a title but an NBA Finals + 2 ECF in his 3 years as coach. The early 2000's teams were ruined by the brawl, and the 2010-14 run was exciting just stopped by LeBron and the PG injury. Larry had his misses sure but not in the Magic/Isiah/Jordan level of bad.

Ya I agree. I think Matt Millen and Magic are fair comparisons. As bad as Isiah and Jordan are I think Magic is worse.

[GoldPanner]

The more I see his quotes the crazier this is

[smalltown]

Isiah Thomas actually was a good GM and talent evaluator in Toronto. His downfall there had nothing to do with being a bad GM it had to do with trying to gain ownership control. As for his Knicks tenure - I haven’t seen anyone look good there.

[ninjacookies]

As for his Knicks tenure - I haven’t seen anyone look good there.

He kind of left pubic hairs on coworker Coke cans and sexually harassed a woman.

[jdandns]

Get that man a robe!

[Pathora]

Isiah Thomas actually was a good GM and talent evaluator in Toronto. His downfall there had nothing to do with being a bad GM it had to do with trying to gain ownership control. As for his Knicks tenure - I haven’t seen anyone look good there.

Besides the sexual stuff, he was the coach of a team that never reached its potential in 3 Indiana years (lost in first round each year). Carlisle was immediately hired by Bird and the next season they had the best record in the league and went to ECF.

[imbluestreak23]

Bingo....the evidence has shown, across all sports, that former superstars make lousy executives....it's not just Magic & Isiah....Bird was both a lousy coach and GM, and Mullin struggled with the Warriors.

The main exception would be Jerry West in basketball, and to a lesser extent Frank Robinson in baseball.

Pat Riley was pretty good, but yeah I agree.

[kd the sniper]

I'm sure Lebonds will have an extra glass of wine tonight .. Through a swirly straw

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[ChampCards]

why is Jeannie so high on luke

[ninjacookies]

why is Jeannie so high on luke

He's dreamy.

[pgisback]

Turning in to a weird situation.

[PKIPP]

Dude tried to challenge conventional wisdom on how to build a team around Lebron James. He built a 1985 style roster. He should've been fired before he ever resigned but Lakers got too much respect for him.

[ChampCards]

lol maybe they banged.

He's dreamy.

[ninjacookies]

lol maybe they banged.


She's still in her prime cougar years. I would not doubt this.

[ChampCards]

fair enough...


wonder who they gonna hire.

Dude tried to challenge conventional wisdom on how to build a team around Lebron James. He built a 1985 style roster. He should've been fired before he ever resigned but Lakers got too much respect for him.

[pgisback]

Dude tried to challenge conventional wisdom on how to build a team around Lebron James. He built a 1985 style roster. He should've been fired before he ever resigned but Lakers got too much respect for him.

These were all 1 year rentals. He wasn’t building around them at all, lmao.

[PKIPP]

fair enough...


wonder who they gonna hire.

Chauncey Billups would be cool, only bringing him up as a piston fan and bc he's been mentioned for jobs in the past. I feel like he'll at least put better personnel around Lebron and their young guys. But we shall see who gets it!

[PKIPP]

These were all 1 year rentals. He wasn’t building around them at all, lmao.

If you read my post i said build around Lebron. Why would anyone think they're building around Lance Stephenson or Rondo? They were quite frankly awful signings aside from being 1 year rentals.

[Southpas2013]

Chauncey Billups would be cool, only bringing him up as a piston fan and bc he's been mentioned for jobs in the past. I feel like he'll at least put better personnel around Lebron and their young guys. But we shall see who gets it!



I’m a little skeptical about hiring a GM with no experience. We’re already 0-1 in the last year.


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[pgisback]

If you read my post i said build around Lebron. Why would anyone think they're building around Lance Stephenson or Rondo? They were quite frankly awful signings aside from being 1 year rentals.

They're not using lance stephenson and rondo to build around Lebron. They are one year rentals. Everyone and their grandma knew this year was going to be a holding period for next year other than that desperate attempt to get AD mid season. That's why he signed a 4 year contract. Come on now, this is very obvious stuff.

[PKIPP]

They're not using lance stephenson and rondo to build around Lebron. They are one year rentals. Everyone and their grandma knew this year was going to be a holding period for next year other than that desperate attempt to get AD mid season. That's why he signed a 4 year contract. Come on now, this is very obvious stuff.

Uh, when you sign Lebron James, you're trying to win now. I'm thinking there were probably better shooters available than the guys they signed, and in that case they signed the wrong dudes.. Pretty easy to see that.

[PKIPP]

I’m a little skeptical about hiring a GM with no experience. We’re already 0-1 in the last year.


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I heard Shaq mention on this rockets vs thunder post game that he thinks jerry west should come back to the Lakers. I kinda like that one.

[pgisback]

Uh, when you sign Lebron James, you're trying to win now. I'm thinking there were probably better shooters available than the guys they signed, and in that case they signed the wrong dudes.. Pretty easy to see that.

Of course they wanted to have a better season. Lebron got hurt, they failed miserably on their attempt to get AD. But it's ridiculous to claim that he's leaving because he failed to build around Lebron this season, lol. They were a bunch of one year rentals with the sole purpose of having room to make plays this summer to actually build around Lebron. Pretty easy to see that. But when you hate Lebron as much as you guys do, you guys end up seeing things that don't exist.

[PKIPP]

Of course they wanted to have a better season. Lebron got hurt, they failed miserably on their attempt to get AD. But it's ridiculous to claim that he's leaving because he failed to build around Lebron this season, lol. They were a bunch of one year rentals with the sole purpose of having room to make plays this summer to actually build around Lebron. Pretty easy to see that. But when you hate Lebron as much as you guys do, you guys end up seeing things that don't exist.

Buddy I'm the furthest thing from a Lebron James "hater".. I thinks he's either the first or second best to ever play the game.. And the lakers have always been the team I root for in the playoffs if my team is out.

Im upset with magic for signing a bunch of guards who couldn't hit water if they fell out of a boat in regards to their shooting. No idea where in my post you got that I'm a Lebron "hater".. But I definitely am not.

[JasonM32]

Not quite.....Smush Parker

Kobe made the playoffs with Smush Parker. lol.

[RyanMW]

D'Lo's final revenge!!!!

First he eliminates them from playoff contention. Then the Nets clinch the playoffs and Magic resigns. RIP.

[LC2nine10]

Of course they wanted to have a better season. Lebron got hurt, they failed miserably on their attempt to get AD. But it's ridiculous to claim that he's leaving because he failed to build around Lebron this season, lol. They were a bunch of one year rentals with the sole purpose of having room to make plays this summer to actually build around Lebron. Pretty easy to see that. But when you hate Lebron as much as you guys do, you guys end up seeing things that don't exist.
I've been told that bronbron can get to the finals with a bunch of scrubs, and that's why he is better than jordan. So yes, there are expectations this year, caused by his fanboys constantly extolling his virtues and playoff mode.
Dudes old and the West is hard. That's all there is to it.
Magic was a great player and I'll always remember him as that.

[rhigh2390]

Never seen so much chaos follow one player.

[smalltown]

Besides the sexual stuff, he was the coach of a team that never reached its potential in 3 Indiana years (lost in first round each year). Carlisle was immediately hired by Bird and the next season they had the best record in the league and went to ECF.

I wasn’t commenting on his coaching career. Just what he did as GM. Never thought he’d be a good coach.

[bmf]

Is he positive?

lol that is soooo messed up!

magic was a great player but he was an absolutely epic failure as team president.

[6celtics33]

Never seen so much chaos follow one player.

That and also the blind worship and excuses that follow it

[gmarutiak]

Is he positive?

Am I the only one who read this in Cartman's voice (and added three letters before the word positive)?

[gopherfan]

Lebron going to be the first player/coach/GM


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This part always gets me curious. Since LeBron is the de facto GM everywhere he goes, is it tampering when he starts asking AD and others to come play with him?

[drobfan8]

Magic was a part of clearing all the cap space, unfortunately he hasn't been able to land another Superstar to help spoon feed LeBron.

I had my doubts he'd sign who they needed this offseason.

Will it change anything for LA? Probably not. Players will either want to join LeBron or they won't.

[NoleinJax]

There can be only 1 President of Basketball Operations.

[Bobbyplaza133]

NBA - No one can steal the attention away from D Wade and Dirk both dropping 30 in their last games of their HOF careers.

Magic - Hold my beer.

[codered]

There can be only 1 President of Basketball Operations.

Haha kudos if you are referencing the highlander lol would love to see a highlander poster photoshopped with lebrons face on Christopher Lambert, although lebron might be the kurgan lol

[asujbl]

D'Lo's final revenge!!!!

First he eliminates them from playoff contention. Then the Nets clinch the playoffs and Magic resigns. RIP.

Now there is a guy that Lakers could have built an Anthony Davis trade around...

[no10pin]

Am I the only one who read this in Cartman's voice (and added three letters before the word positive)?

Nope

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[Scottish Punk]

I wouldn't classify Magic as a failure per say. As pgisback stated, all the moves done for the past two years was to clear space for this summer. Magic's success/failure would have been decided who they got as max guys this summer. This year was always going to be an adjustment year. Find out if any of the young guys explode with Lebron and can be kept or just trade pieces. I never thought the Lakers were in a win now mode. The next three years, yes.

No matter what comes out, some of this is going to be pinned on Lebron whether there is truth there or not. He does have a track record of trying to control everything. I can see where you have two uber alphas in Magic and Lebron butting heads.

How does this impact free agency this year for the Lakers. This off season will chart the course of the franchise going forward. If they strike out on KD, Kyrie, Thompson (likely) and maybe even Butler or Boogie, then what? AD or bust?

[asujbl]

Lonzo Ball will be the forever mistake

Whether that’s choosing him over Russell (gave up way too soon) or drafting him over Tatum (yes I realize maybe they don’t take him)

He’s the trigger point

Russell, Ingram, LeBron, Kuzma win a lot of games

Yes I realize trading Russell cleared space by dumping Timmy

There were still other ways

The “snitch” thing got overplayed

[cardmole]

This part always gets me curious. Since LeBron is the de facto GM everywhere he goes, is it tampering when he starts asking AD and others to come play with him?

No, and Magic can now freely do the same thing behind the scene.

[Scottish Punk]

Lonzo Ball will be the forever mistake

Whether that’s choosing him over Russell (gave up way too soon) or drafting him over Tatum (yes I realize maybe they don’t take him)

He’s the trigger point

Russell, Ingram, LeBron, Kuzma win a lot of games

Yes I realize trading Russell cleared space by dumping Timmy

There were still other ways

The “snitch” thing got overplayed

Agree with Ball, if he never develops into much. This will go down just like Darko does for us Pistons fans. The only caveat I have with Darko was that very few actually saw him play to get an opinion. It is easily defendable position that Darko was the right pick if you are promised the next Dirk.

Don't agree with Russell. He had to go after his locker room fiasco.

[imbluestreak23]

Don't think Magic was a complete failure. He even stated that he was trying to find shooters in his interview. The shooters were getting offered 3-5 year contracts. They had no interest in signing a 1 year deal with LA when LA didn't have the cash to poney up 3 year deals.

Should he have got rid of D-Russell? In hindsight no, but did anyone here think D-Russell was amazing when he was feuding with Swaggy P?


This is more tarnishing to Bron's legacy. He destroys every franchise he goes to, like a freaking virus. And it's up t that virus to determine whether the rest of the team (body) wins or loses. Terrible analogy but that's all I got

[asujbl]

Agree with Ball, if he never develops into much. This will go down just like Darko does for us Pistons fans. The only caveat I have with Darko was that very few actually saw him play to get an opinion. It is easily defendable position that Darko was the right pick if you are promised the next Dirk.

Don't agree with Russell. He had to go after his locker room fiasco.

Darko was going #2 to whoever drafted. That’s not Detroit’s fault.

Disagree on Russell. Swaggy P sucked.

Locker room issue? Get rid of the locker room. Don’t get rid of a 21 year old #2 overall pick to clear cap space

They wouldn’t do that with Ball and he’s an issue...

[asujbl]

Don't think Magic was a complete failure. He even stated that he was trying to find shooters in his interview. The shooters were getting offered 3-5 year contracts. They had no interest in signing a 1 year deal with LA when LA didn't have the cash to poney up 3 year deals.

Should he have got rid of D-Russell? In hindsight no, but did anyone here think D-Russell was amazing when he was feuding with Swaggy P?


This is more tarnishing to Bron's legacy. He destroys every franchise he goes to, like a freaking virus. And it's up t that virus to determine whether the rest of the team (body) wins or loses. Terrible analogy but that's all I got

Could have had Korver and Smith from Cleveland...

Doubt Magic called. He was on vacation.

[Scottish Punk]

Could have had Korver and Smith from Cleveland...

Doubt Magic called. He was on vacation.

Korver signed a 3 year deal, so he probably wouldn't take a one year with the Lakers. Didn't Smith have a couple years left on his deal or is he officially a free agent now? The number one requirement was to only have one year on the books in any deal. The market for players shrinks considerably.

Edit: just looked it up. Smith is still signed through this year. He won't be a free agent until the season is done. So he was no go for the Lakers.

[asujbl]

Korver signed a 3 year deal, so he probably wouldn't take a one year with the Lakers. Didn't Smith have a couple years left on his deal or is he officially a free agent now? The number one requirement was to only have one year on the books in any deal. The market for players shrinks considerably.

Edit: just looked it up. Smith is still signed through this year. He won't be a free agent until the season is done. So he was no go for the Lakers.

Kyle Korver was traded

The 3 year deal is irrelevant... Jazz chose to do that

Lakers could have had Korver for one year if they wanted

[asujbl]

Korver signed a 3 year deal, so he probably wouldn't take a one year with the Lakers. Didn't Smith have a couple years left on his deal or is he officially a free agent now? The number one requirement was to only have one year on the books in any deal. The market for players shrinks considerably.

Edit: just looked it up. Smith is still signed through this year. He won't be a free agent until the season is done. So he was no go for the Lakers.

You are also wrong on Smith. His 2nd year isn't guaranteed.

Lakers could have had him and waived him for peanuts after the season.

He's the last player in the NBA off the old CBA

[rhigh2390]

You are also wrong on Smith. His 2nd year isn't guaranteed.

Lakers could have had him and waived him for peanuts after the season.

He's the last player in the NBA off the old CBA

How crazy will it be if LA makes these moves?

1. Name David Griffin President
2. Name Ty Lue Coach
3. Sign Kyrie

Haha

[asujbl]

How crazy will it be if LA makes these moves?

1. Name David Griffin President
2. Name Ty Lue Coach
3. Sign Kyrie

Haha

Honestly? I'd say there is a very legitimate chance (Kyrie being the lowest percentage) of that happening

If I was on PTI?

I'd say 35% that happens

[Scottish Punk]

You are also wrong on Smith. His 2nd year isn't guaranteed.

Lakers could have had him and waived him for peanuts after the season.

He's the last player in the NBA off the old CBA

You are right, not all the contract was guaranteed. Korver was similar. He signed a 3 year deal in 2017. Both players could have been waived at the end of the year costing LA around 7.2 million (3.8 for Smith, and 3.4 for Korver). Not much in the grand scheme of things to clear salary. But, when your main goal is to not have any salary going into this year, that is 7.2 million of dead money and may mean the difference in signing the second big name free agent for Lebron's new big three. Rondo and Stephenson (while not a fit for the team this year) are free and clear from a salary perspective.

[abide]

When Jeannie Buss hired Magic it was impulsive. It was more about firing her brother. It was also a mistake.

Out of that mistake came the Magic partnership with Pelinka, and a plan, and ultimately -past his prime but still potentially great- LeBron.

LeBron comes with baggage [Klutch.] Magic and Pelinka understood that, but it's worth a shot.

Since the HIV diagnosis forever ago, Magic lives in the moment. He is an icon and a celebrity, and rich beyond his wildest dreams when he was a kid in Michigan. He can't keep his mouth shut when in front of a microphone and a sports reporter and / or camera. He believe he was honest when he said contribution to this resignation is based on wanting to tweet about Westbrook getting a 20-20-20.

Now, how to move forward? There do not seem to be a lot of options to move forward.

So how about moving sideways? Kareem Abdul Jabar is equally an icon. Kareem is a really smart dude, though not Mr. personality. Kareem has been campaigning for a position with the Lakers on and off for years. Give the job to Kareem for 1 year. He'll at least work hard, and can't be any worse.

It must be clear to Kareem that he is a temp, and he gets the job as honorary. And sure, if something good happens this summer while he is on the job, he can interview for an extension.

In the next year an extensive job search for the real next guy takes place.

[asujbl]

You are right, not all the contract was guaranteed. Korver was similar. He signed a 3 year deal in 2017. Both players could have been waived at the end of the year costing LA around 7.2 million (3.8 for Smith, and 3.4 for Korver). Not much in the grand scheme of things to clear salary. But, when your main goal is to not have any salary going into this year, that is 7.2 million of dead money and may mean the difference in signing the second big name free agent for Lebron's new big three. Rondo and Stephenson (while not a fit for the team this year) are free and clear from a salary perspective.

If the Lakers didn't add 3 point shooters of 7.2 million? They deserve to lose.

You can clear that easily by strapping it to a draft pick... which the Lakers could have done if they weren't so awful they were in the lottery.

That's horrible management.

[jdandns]

When I heard the news Magic had made another shocking announcement from out of nowhere, I immediately feared the worst. What a relief it was to find he was merely leaving the Lakers as opposed to relaunching his "Magic Hour" talk show.

Earvin should take his talents to Boston.

[cornelljw]

I hear they are keeping Pelinka? I dont get it