Advice for starting sell and ship PWE

[vodkalodka]

With the National coming up, I'm going to be ripping a ton. I also have a bunch of low-end parallels that I'm going to try and list and sell. I hoping to get some advice on the other sellers that use PWE. I've received some in nice harder photo mailers and probably will be looking to go with those. I do use COMC too, but these would all be items I'm not sending them. I've gone back and forth many times with this idea, but just don't know enough.

How much is 1 card to ship in a cardboard mailer and what do you charge? I would always consider these non-bendable, but have received some priced both ways.

Usually how many can you include inside before you get to a package rates?

How often do you get "item not received" complaints?

Am I just wasting my time to make $1 on some cards?


Thanx for all the input.

[smapdi]

I can ship 4-5 cards in a wider top-loader in a team bag with a decoy cardboard for rigidity in a PWE and use a 2-ounce stamp, which I think are 70 cents now. I charge 99 cents for shipping in this situation, which covers the cost of postage, materials, and defrays most of whatever fees the platform charges on my shipping price.

I've never had a not-received complaint, but when I sell on ebay I always buy their tracking, and I don't sell dollar cards there. Ebay more than any other venue seems to be a magnet for the kind of people who would steal dollar cards. Selling on other platforms has been fine.

But I recommend simply taking some cards, toploaders, and envelopes to the post office and figuring out exactly what you can do for how much.

[HOFAutoRookies]

My advice is never, never EVER ship PWE. Not worth it. Bubble mailers cost pennies and yes, postage is a few bucks but better than dealing with the horrors of PWE's...

[dani0100]

I recently started selling PWE on eBay. So far, so good, but it's only been a couple of weeks.

I don't understand how people can say never do it. You have two choices if you want to sell on eBay or anywhere outside of COMC: (1) sell sub-$4 cards using PWE, or (2) don't sell the cards at all. Nobody's going to pay $3.50 shipping on a $4 card.

I have been shipping single cards in a cardboard photo envelope, with a bagged toploader and the packing slip. That's just under the weight limit for a single stamp plus the non-machinable surcharge fee (I think the single stamp covering both charges costs around .80). I charge $1 for shipping this way and list anything that's under $6 this way.

My plan is to refund anyone that says they didn't get a card, but then ban them from my auctions. It's very unusual that the post office would non-deliver something, but I think there are certain addresses/routes that they have more trouble with, so better not to serve anyone who is either on one of those routes or is a scammer.

[SupermanBrandon]

I've sold a couple hundred eBay PWE cards (usually $5 or less) for the past 7 months. Only had 1 issue. Refunded the guy immediately. It's allowed me buy some great PSA cards that maybe I wouldn't have bought. If you have the time, energy and patience...go for it.

My method...
I take a sheet of computer paper, cut it in half. I use 1, half for each order. I put the card(s) in a sleeve, then into a loader, then a team bag. I fold the one half sheet of paper around the team bag. No decoy cards needed. I have my printer setup to print the addresses on the white envelope. I use smaller envelopes. Makes it more compact. Done.

Good luck in your adventure.

[hche]

If you want to start selling and sending PWE, use another account for it. You dont really want a non-receipt negative on an account which you are selling your high price items.

Be very specific in item description that item is being shipped in PWE and offer another level of shipping for higher charge.

I believe a lot of the high volume PWE sellers will tell you they rarely run into problem. Since they should be small $ cards, the impact from a problem is very minimal. Just remember there is not way to fight a non-receipt claim unless you call eBay and they determine the buyer has a history, which probably doesn't worth the time on a PWE sale.

[coachnip13]

My advice is never, never EVER ship PWE. Not worth it. Bubble mailers cost pennies and yes, postage is a few bucks but better than dealing with the horrors of PWE's...

What are the horrors? I seem to have missed them in my 1000+ sales this year.

[HOFAutoRookies]

Nobody's going to pay $3.50 shipping on a $4 card.


Not true at all. I can screen shot many instances of my sales where they've purchased a 99 cent card and paid that for shipping. Just sold a single Ryan Pressly chrome unsigned rookie for $1 and they paid that much for shipping.

[HOFAutoRookies]

What are the horrors? I seem to have missed them in my 1000+ sales this year.


You've shipped 1,000 cards PWE no issue? Good for you. You're in the minority.

[coachnip13]

Not true at all. I can screen shot many instances of my sales where they've purchased a 99 cent card and paid that for shipping. Just sold a single Ryan Pressly chrome unsigned rookie for $1 and they paid that much for shipping.

Yes, there are some examples of that. And there are hundreds of thousands of examples of people paying $1 for the card and .99 for shipping. If buyers have the cheaper option, most of the time they are taking it.

[coachnip13]

You've shipped 1,000 cards PWE no issue? Good for you. You're in the minority.

Maybe one issue this year, can't remember. I'm in the minority of what? Do you have firm numbers showing how many PWE sellers face the "horrors" of selling by PWE? It must be over 50%, right?

[HOFAutoRookies]

Yes, there are some examples of that. And there are hundreds of thousands of examples of people paying $1 for the card and .99 for shipping. If buyers have the cheaper option, most of the time they are taking it.


And I'm sure there are hundreds of thousands of sales that say otherwise as well. Good for them, but I have had great sales with cheap cards and shipping a bubble mailer.

You do you, I'm just saying I personally wouldn't do it because of issues I have had in the past.

[itsnickyg]

I have sold around 100 cards on ebay with PWE, only one issue.... and the one person that gave me an issue had about 95% positive feedback so it seems that buyer has issues not only as a buyer but a seller as well.

I have heard horror stories, but people sometimes get what the deserve by shipping a $50 card with no tracking.

My on suggestion is make sure not to overcharge shipping when you do ship using a PWE, that is a recipe for negative feedback.

[rwperu34]

Maybe one issue this year, can't remember. I'm in the minority of what? Do you have firm numbers showing how many PWE sellers face the "horrors" of selling by PWE? It must be over 50%, right?

This mirrors my experience. I've only ever had a couple of issues with PWE, and one was because I forgot to put the card in a Cardsaver! I just self insure and if something foes wrong I'll refund.

I just shipped about $100 worth of cards in PWE that is going to save me $20 in postage vs bubble mailer. Even if I refund $19 I'm better off. My bet is I refund $0.

[GoBeavs]

Have sold around a hundred via PWE since adding that this year. Only had one non-receipt claim. Refunded it right away, but didn't block as this guy was a huge buyer that had lots of good feedback both ways. My gut feeling ended up being correct as the buyer informed me a couple weeks later that the card eventually showed up. He also resent the payment back to me.

I ship in a regular envelope, with 1 regular first class stamp. Card is in penny sleeve & card saver, then folded around with heavy stock paper. Mostly re-using those postcard flyers I get in the mail. Have not had any issues. Most of my sales were Free Shipping (BIN or Auction), but for some auctions I charged $1.

Horror stories can happen when shipping PWE or w/tracking. A bad buyer can work the system either way.

[rwperu34]

Have sold around a hundred via PWE since adding that this year. Only had one non-receipt claim. Refunded it right away, but didn't block as this guy was a huge buyer that had lots of good feedback both ways. My gut feeling ended up being correct as the buyer informed me a couple weeks later that the card eventually showed up. He also resent the payment back to me.

I ship in a regular envelope, with 1 regular first class stamp. Card is in penny sleeve & card saver, then folded around with heavy stock paper. Mostly re-using those postcard flyers I get in the mail. Have not had any issues. Most of my sales were Free Shipping (BIN or Auction), but for some auctions I charged $1.

Horror stories can happen when shipping PWE or w/tracking. A bad buyer can work the system either way.

I've had this happen as well. That particular card decided to take a tour of the USA instead of going directly from point A to point B.

[rwperu34]

To answer the original post, I put the card in a penny sleeve and a Cardsaver with a piece of blue painters tape at the top. The blue tape is key, don't use scotch. If you don't have the painters tape use masking tape.

I can fit 2-4 cards (depending on thickness) in one Cardsaver. If I need two Cardsavers I use the longer envelope (#10 on the box) and tape the Cardsavers together together so they fit and don't slide.

Cost is;

55¢ for stamp for under 1 oz
1.25¢ for the small envelope, 2.5¢ for the longer one (get them at 99¢ store)
8.5¢ for the Cardsaver
0.1¢ for the tape. I'm not kidding when I say I use this stuff liberally and I still haven't gone through a roll in hundreds upon hundreds of packages over the years. It's a $3-$5 outlay at first, but it will last forever.

I've also got a return address sticker that cost me about $5 for 10,000 or something ridiculous.

[coachnip13]

...with a piece of blue painters tape at the top. The blue tape is key, don't use scotch. If you don't have the painters tape use masking tape.



Same. I received four items today, three of which used scotch tape. Archaic.

[HOFAutoRookies]

To answer the original post, I put the card in a penny sleeve and a Cardsaver with a piece of blue painters tape at the top. The blue tape is key, don't use scotch. If you don't have the painters tape use masking tape.



I can fit 2-4 cards (depending on thickness) in one Cardsaver. If I need two Cardsavers I use the longer envelope (#10 on the box) and tape the Cardsavers together together so they fit and don't slide.



Cost is;



55¢ for stamp for under 1 oz

1.25¢ for the small envelope, 2.5¢ for the longer one (get them at 99¢ store)

8.5¢ for the Cardsaver

0.1¢ for the tape. I'm not kidding when I say I use this stuff liberally and I still haven't gone through a roll in hundreds upon hundreds of packages over the years. It's a $3-$5 outlay at first, but it will last forever.



I've also got a return address sticker that cost me about $5 for 10,000 or something ridiculous.


Thanks for your input. I always use painters tape as well. I bought over 1000 bubble mailers for $50 but you're making a good argument for PWE. I just don't really sell cards under $20 too often and it seems like when I do, someone tries to burn me. I've out tracking on a PWE before and still an issue.

Some people just suck

[ALBASKETBALL]

I've done appx 200 PWE sales with one "lost" card

Cards are shipped in a PWE + Sleeve with painters tape + Top loader + Team Bag using a Forever stamp. That cost me $.88. The extra cost makes the card arrive in pristine condition and makes the buyer happy. It's worth it in my opinion to ship using this method, even on cheaper sales - but this leads to my bottom dollar amount

The lowest amount I will accept is $2.00 for a card. With the $.88 and Ebay/PP fees...Profit comes out to $.57 - Anything less is not worth my time.

It's been enjoying experience for me, even on the cheap sales.

GL

[auctionjmm]

Not getting involved in the argument, but here's my experience:

PWE's have drastically increased my sales. I only use PWE for $9.99 and under sales. I sell more cheap cards when my shipping is cheaper. I was able to sell some cheap cards when I was strictly doing bubble mailer, but my sales volume has improved significantly so I have to believe that cheap shipping is attractive to low end buyers.

I do have issues with lost mail, but they are few enough to have no impact on my bottom line. In the words of Daymond John, don't step over dollars to save pennies. A seller can afford to lose a few cheap pieces of mail if it means creating hundreds or thousands in new revenue.

[Triplelutz42]

PWE might be the single greatest enabler of making a profit selling low dollar cards. I have mailed well over 1K PWE shipments containing between 1-10 cards and have had less than 10 people claim damage or missing orders.

If care is taken in the packaging process, PWE can be a safe, efficient way to ship low end cards.

I wrote and recorded a guide to safely ship PWE that many have found helpful, and it is the first Google result if you search "PWE Shipping". Let me know if you have any other questions!

[vodkalodka]

To answer the original post, I put the card in a penny sleeve and a Cardsaver with a piece of blue painters tape at the top. The blue tape is key, don't use scotch. If you don't have the painters tape use masking tape.

I can fit 2-4 cards (depending on thickness) in one Cardsaver. If I need two Cardsavers I use the longer envelope (#10 on the box) and tape the Cardsavers together together so they fit and don't slide.

Cost is;

55¢ for stamp for under 1 oz
1.25¢ for the small envelope, 2.5¢ for the longer one (get them at 99¢ store)
8.5¢ for the Cardsaver
0.1¢ for the tape. I'm not kidding when I say I use this stuff liberally and I still haven't gone through a roll in hundreds upon hundreds of packages over the years. It's a $3-$5 outlay at first, but it will last forever.

I've also got a return address sticker that cost me about $5 for 10,000 or something ridiculous.

Thank you for all the detail. This is what I was hoping for. I like the idea of cardsavers and regular envelopes, I might have to go get some for my supplies.


Now, back to the show. :popcorn::popcorn:

[HOFAutoRookies]

Not getting involved in the argument, but here's my experience:

PWE's have drastically increased my sales. I only use PWE for $9.99 and under sales. I sell more cheap cards when my shipping is cheaper. I was able to sell some cheap cards when I was strictly doing bubble mailer, but my sales volume has improved significantly so I have to believe that cheap shipping is attractive to low end buyers.

I do have issues with lost mail, but they are few enough to have no impact on my bottom line. In the words of Daymond John, don't step over dollars to save pennies. A seller can afford to lose a few cheap pieces of mail if it means creating hundreds or thousands in new revenue.


Thanks for your post! I will certainly look into that! Do the buyers have any issues with it or do you detail in the description you are shipping PWE? I've shipped PWE as well as mentioned it in the description, and they claimed it wasn't what they wanted and eBay sided with them.

[HOFAutoRookies]

Now, back to the show. :popcorn::popcorn:


No show. I'm done. Sorry to coach and the OP for the derail. I have learned a lot from this thread on how to properly ship using PWE and am looking forward to trying it again.

[vodkalodka]

Not getting involved in the argument, but here's my experience:

PWE's have drastically increased my sales. I only use PWE for $9.99 and under sales. I sell more cheap cards when my shipping is cheaper. I was able to sell some cheap cards when I was strictly doing bubble mailer, but my sales volume has improved significantly so I have to believe that cheap shipping is attractive to low end buyers.

I do have issues with lost mail, but they are few enough to have no impact on my bottom line. In the words of Daymond John, don't step over dollars to save pennies. A seller can afford to lose a few cheap pieces of mail if it means creating hundreds or thousands in new revenue.

Thanks for more insight.

PWE might be the single greatest enabler of making a profit selling low dollar cards. I have mailed well over 1K PWE shipments containing between 1-10 cards and have had less than 10 people claim damage or missing orders.

If care is taken in the packaging process, PWE can be a safe, efficient way to ship low end cards.

I wrote and recorded a guide to safely ship PWE that many have found helpful, and it is the first Google result if you search "PWE Shipping". Let me know if you have any other questions!

Will definitely check it out. Thanks!

No show. I'm done. Sorry to coach and the OP for the derail. I have learned a lot from this thread on how to properly ship using PWE and am looking forward to trying it again.

No, your all good.

[Cactuspies]

I've sold thousands between ebay and sportlots in pwe. only about a handful have gone "missing"

1st you need a paypal micro-account
2nd use a 2nd ebay account to sell these unless you don't do much else on one account selling wise
3rd spell it out in your description how you are shipping

I do $1 up to 4 cards and then it upgrades to bubble mailer w/tracking for $3.50

I use cardsavers and in the CS1 you can usually fit 4 cards, chromes get a little tighter and may be rounded. I don't do thick cards or memorabilia cards of the like in pwe. anything above $5 I really don't want in a pwe either. there are exceptions and sometimes if the price is higher than expected I'd pay the difference to use tracking.

I have a do not bend stamp for my envelopes. I just use the normal letter size or the smaller ones. I tape the card saver on the receipt and fold it up around the card. sometimes I'll add a thin cardboard or maybe a junk card to help with rigidness so when the do not bend and non-machine postage is ignored, the sorting machine doesn't leave imprints on the card which really is the main complaint when I started out.

there are a bunch of other threads on the subject and there is certainly a couple of good ebay tutorials online if you search enough.

FWIW I just sold 40+ single low end cards to one individual on ebay this week. that is a record for me. one flat shipping cost and low end cards combined for a great deal. really couldn't have pulled that off elsewhere.

[HOFAutoRookies]

I've sold thousands between ebay and sportlots in pwe. only about a handful have gone "missing"

1st you need a paypal micro-account
2nd use a 2nd ebay account to sell these unless you don't do much else on one account selling wise
3rd spell it out in your description how you are shipping

I do $1 up to 4 cards and then it upgrades to bubble mailer w/tracking for $3.50

I use cardsavers and in the CS1 you can usually fit 4 cards, chromes get a little tighter and may be rounded. I don't do thick cards or memorabilia cards of the like in pwe. anything above $5 I really don't want in a pwe either. there are exceptions and sometimes if the price is higher than expected I'd pay the difference to use tracking.

I have a do not bend stamp for my envelopes. I just use the normal letter size or the smaller ones. I tape the card saver on the receipt and fold it up around the card. sometimes I'll add a thin cardboard or maybe a junk card to help with rigidness so when the do not bend and non-machine postage is ignored, the sorting machine doesn't leave imprints on the card which really is the main complaint when I started out.

there are a bunch of other threads on the subject and there is certainly a couple of good ebay tutorials online if you search enough.

FWIW I just sold 40+ single low end cards to one individual on ebay this week. that is a record for me. one flat shipping cost and low end cards combined for a great deal. really couldn't have pulled that off elsewhere.


You have multiple eBay accounts? Do you have a high end sales account and then a low end sales account? I thought you could only have one account, that's a great idea.

[dbo808]

I started doing PWEs about a year ago and have only had 1 non receipt claim. The main thing is only ship what I dont mind losing so for me its around $5. I charge $1 to ship and every PWE I ship is non machinable which in total cost about a $1. The non machinable is the main thing ive learned. It keeps the PWE from going in their machine which can and has destroyed envelopes. Make sure to state how you ship in your info and you will be fine. I also ship like others penny sleeve in top loader wrapped in paper in PWE.

[scotthenrichs]

#1 advice : Ignore anyone that states that shipping in PWE's will cause you horrible pains with tons of missing and damaged cards.

I've also shipped hundreds if not thousands of $2-10 cards in PWE's for many years and have I believe one or two complains of lost in shipment or damaged in shipment and promptly refunded them, no problems. I simply put it in a #10 envelope and painters tape the toploaded card in the middle of a sheet of paper and fold and insert in the envelope. 1st class stamp + Penguin stamp (extra ounce) and non-machinable stamp and it's set to go. Not sure if the non-machinable/extra ounce really is necessary, but I won't change anything that isn't broken. Just don't use it for higher end cards that would hurt if you didn't have tracking to prove that it arrived.

[auctionjmm]

Thanks for your post! I will certainly look into that! Do the buyers have any issues with it or do you detail in the description you are shipping PWE? I've shipped PWE as well as mentioned it in the description, and they claimed it wasn't what they wanted and eBay sided with them.

I mention it in the description. Some buyers do have an issue with it. But again, I'm not going to get upset if eBay makes me refund $5 to some schmuck when I have another $500 in additional sales that I didn't have before.

[AnthonyCorona]

I have had way more PWE sales than regular sales lately. I bought a 20 card lot of Gio urshela first bowman chromes this spring training for like $3, now that he’s a Yankee legend I’ve been selling them for $4 each free shipping PWE, I think I’m up to 8 sold now. I hardly list anymore but those smaller sales add up nicely.

I always put in the description that the card ships PWE. I’ve had two claim they never received, I just refunded and blocked. I use card savers over top loaders and haven’t had anyone complain. Good luck!


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[HadWayTooMuch]

I've been shipping mostly PWE the past few months as my low end inventory is huge.

Every now and then someone will message me with "where is my item?" Usually, it's a week after shipping. It just happened the other day. If the person is a scammer, they will demand a refund immediately. If they just haven't received it yet, they'll give it another week.

I will refund no questions asked after that week or immediately, but I'll block them if it's immediate. The USPS doesn't even consider your package or letter lost until 21 days go by. Expecting your item in 5-10 or else is not right.

As long as you don't mind putting in the time, it's well worth it. My math shows I still profit if 1 in 10 don't show up, but believe me, 99 out of 100 do!

[morningrushnc]

"Greed, for lack of a better word, is good."

[fergman78]

I have recently starting shipping low end via PWE and so far no issues. I think it is a nice way to move low dollar inventory.

[HOFAutoRookies]

Appreciate all the responses. I'm definitely going to take a longer look at shipping PWE.

Sounds like I need a second account for lower end items and like others said, sometimes you gotta eat the loss.

[Cactuspies]

You have multiple eBay accounts? Do you have a high end sales account and then a low end sales account? I thought you could only have one account, that's a great idea.

Appreciate all the responses. I'm definitely going to take a longer look at shipping PWE.

Sounds like I need a second account for lower end items and like others said, sometimes you gotta eat the loss.

you can have as many accounts as you want really. one for buying and one for selling. multiple for selling or buying. part of the tos though is that the accounts for selling shpould be differentiated items, but if you look at some of the bigwigs out there like boyd and leaf and others they have multiple selling accounts but basically sell the same stuff. low end pwe and higher end w/tracking and non card stuff are certainly different. I started the split when I cared about getting my TRS discount and didn't want to ruin the account I've had forever. I actually have way more issues with my main account that uses tracking then I do with the pwe account.

[mouschi]

I tried shipping PWE on cards < $10 for a run of 10 or 20 cards, and if I recall correctly, a quarter to half of them claimed they never received them, which I highly doubt. They got free cards and I was out the moola. Never again for me!

[rwperu34]

Thanks for your post! I will certainly look into that! Do the buyers have any issues with it or do you detail in the description you are shipping PWE? I've shipped PWE as well as mentioned it in the description, and they claimed it wasn't what they wanted and eBay sided with them.

I've never had any issues with that. The only one I've refunded was because of a dinged corner on a $4 card I forgot to put in a CS.

FWIW on cards that sell for less than $1 (via the "penny" auction) I don't even bother with a CS.

You have multiple eBay accounts? Do you have a high end sales account and then a low end sales account? I thought you could only have one account, that's a great idea.

I have two. One is for PWE and one for bubble mailer. I also have a Paypal micropayments account which is huge on the low end cards, especially $2-$3.

I've heard when we get forced over to ebay payments it's going to be 25¢ per item. That is going to kill my low end sales if true.

[CB Nostalgia]

I find the vast majority of my cards that are under $5 sell better at auction versus buy it now. In this situation, most buyers buy more than one card, so the shipping cost of $3 isn't a problem.

[RandysHobby]

I sell a few PWE deals a day for the past year. Not 1 single issue.

[BrewPack82]

Can anyone explain to me HOW to list something as ships via PWE? Or how to give both PWE and bubble options, how to group items only up to a certain amount (4 or less PWE, 5 or more bubble) and so on.
When I list something, first class letter is never an option. If I select “don’t know dimensions” and manually set it to $1, and try to add a second option, then first class package isn’t available.
Thanks!


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[shrevecity]

Can anyone explain to me HOW to list something as ships via PWE? Or how to give both PWE and bubble options, how to group items only up to a certain amount (4 or less PWE, 5 or more bubble) and so on.
When I list something, first class letter is never an option. If I select “don’t know dimensions” and manually set it to $1, and try to add a second option, then first class package isn’t available.
Thanks!


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Put it as first class or economy shipping. Its still first class with a PWE so that is not a lie, but putting it as economy will stretch the estimated delivery time.

I just charge a flat fee and if the price goes over a certain price I just upgrade the shipping out of my pocket.

I would not put different shipping options I tried it and it was nothing but issues buyers would pay the low shipping price and then message you saying they wanted with tracking then get mad when you tell them they need to pay extra for that.

[rman112]

Tape your envelopes.

[shrevecity]

Tape your envelopes.

buy self sticking ones.

[Chris Henderson]

buy self sticking ones.

I agree. Never tape the envelope shut if using a PWE. All you are doing is making the envelope harder to open and increasing the chance of the card getting damaged.

[rman112]

buy self sticking ones.

I agree. Never tape the envelope shut if using a PWE. All you are doing is making the envelope harder to open and increasing the chance of the card getting damaged.

Disagree. Tape over the self-sticking ones. And if someone can't tell where to even rip/cut open an envelope that has a toploader in it that doesn't move, they're a moron.

Even a sealed emvelope that is fully sealed has creases/folds that can snag in the machine.

[Cactuspies]

Disagree. Tape over the self-sticking ones. And if someone can't tell where to even rip/cut open an envelope that has a toploader in it that doesn't move, they're a moron.

Even a sealed emvelope that is fully sealed has creases/folds that can snag in the machine.

I tape the self sealing ones, don't know if it's because it's hot as balls here, but the "glue" doesn't seem to like to stay shut as well as it should. couple of pieces across the back and looping to the front works. nothing over the top that you need to get hedge clippers to cut it open like some of the bubble mailers I get

[shrevecity]

Disagree. Tape over the self-sticking ones. And if someone can't tell where to even rip/cut open an envelope that has a toploader in it that doesn't move, they're a moron.

Even a sealed emvelope that is fully sealed has creases/folds that can snag in the machine.

Maybe a moron, but it will still be the sellers fault. Have never taped them they only issues I ever had with damage were when I used a top loader instead of card saver.

[rman112]

Maybe a moron, but it will still be the sellers fault. Have never taped them they only issues I ever had with damage were when I used a top loader instead of card saver.

I'm picturing a guy using scissors to cut open the envelope, feeling that there is a hard plastic toploader, and continuing to struggle and cut right through the card and toploader.

[shrevecity]

I'm picturing a guy using scissors to cut open the envelope, feeling that there is a hard plastic toploader, and continuing to struggle and cut right through the card and toploader.

That would be the sellers fault if they file a claim with Ebay. They can even say that they damaged it when openeing and Ebay will side with them. Had a woman want a refund because in her words her child knocked it off the table and it broke Ebay ruled in her favor.

[JeffG1954]

I started doing PWEs about a year ago and have only had 1 non receipt claim. The main thing is only ship what I dont mind losing so for me its around $5. I charge $1 to ship and every PWE I ship is non machinable which in total cost about a $1. The non machinable is the main thing ive learned. It keeps the PWE from going in their machine which can and has destroyed envelopes. Make sure to state how you ship in your info and you will be fine. I also ship like others penny sleeve in top loader wrapped in paper in PWE.

You can use the non-machinable stamp and you can put non-machinable on the envelope, but the majority of cards sent via PWE are going to go thru the machine no matter what.

[BrewPack82]

I actually just today received a single in a toploader inside a small generic thank you card and the envelope it came with. I don’t know the cost on that, but it was a great size match for the card and the envelope was in perfect condition.
Have any of you tried this? Seems like it might cost a little more, but may be worthwhile for ~1-4 cards.


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[davebo]

I've sold between 500-700 cards on Ebay over the last 8 months using PWE and have had maybe one issue (took awhile to get there). I charge $1.25 and use a small envelope, toploader and fold a note card over it. I usually only do that for non-auto cards that I price in my store for $5 or less. I clearly state in my description that I am sending PWE and if a buyer wants delivery confirmation to message me and I will adjust the shipping. I have never had one request to change the shipping to include a bubble envelope with DC. So either they don't read the description (likely) or would rather same the money (highly likely).

[Wolf8MeVillie]

I have sold 1000s of cards in PWE, I have had fewer PWE go missing than cards with tracking... the ones lost in PWE are worth about $5 total, the ones lost with tracking are over $150... glad I tracked them to no where and lost my money that way.