group break issues chronology

[mark D]

Jets and coyotees
Any feed back as to these types of issues

[mark D]

both ebay auctions were for coyotes and jets. Neither auction stated plus or minus other teams and cards have jets listed and players in the jerseys of jets yet they go to arizona

[mark D]

here is my main issue. take a look at this statement
"THE CARDS WILL GO TO THE TEAM ON THE CARD, VERIFIED WITH THE CHECKLIST."
why would you need a checklist to verify team on card? would you just not look at the card? that statement is wack and is an oximoron
What i am finding is cards do not go to team on card verified by the checklist.

[chiefsncards275]

Huh


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[yazevans]

I think I can decipher this...The Jets franchise from 1972-1996 became the Coyotes, while the current Jets franchise was purchased from the Atlanta Thrashers.

So generally Jets players from 1972-96 technically belong to the Coyotes in breaks, and this is often confirmed by the checklist, because the breaker may not know off the top of his head.

[mark D]

I bought Winnipeg jets, yet my 2 cards go to Arizona even though the card states JETS

Sorry if I have not explained this well

[senorlaverga]

That’s pretty standard for most breaks. Old jets go to Arizona.

[mark D]

but the cards said jets?

[mark D]

was issued a refund BBBOOOOOOOOO
I just got hosed

[senorlaverga]

I’m not saying it’s right but I sort of get why breakers do it. If every other relocated team’s cards go to their new team/location then why should thenold Jets be any different, even though the name is the same. It’s definitely something that breakers should emphasize beforehand though, so situations like yours can be remedied before the fact.

[mark D]

I understand rules as they are written in the auctions i buy. I bought the jets. Not the new or old just the jets. The Arizona auction said coyotes that's it. Most ebay auctions for coyotes stated plus old jets but this one did not. I paid 22 bucks for the Winnipeg jets and got 2 cards. Even said my name in the live break twice as the winner of the jets. Woke up this am to Oh sorry those go to Arizona. Here is the checklist after the fact. The cards had players in jets uniforms and the breaker sold the jets as a separate team.
Lesson learned that THE CARDS WILL GO TO THE TEAM ON THE CARD, VERIFIED WITH THE CHECKLIST. Means cards don't go to team on the card. Cards pulled value about 75 max so not a biggie. Seller told me I was a knewb. which i am but i bought JETS
SO the checklist he sent me had 99.9 jets players going to AZ and only ONE guy left for the jets. So Winnipeg in group breaks have 113 cards max total in the whole production. Jets should have been sold as such. But that was never told until after. Oh well.

[mark D]

I’m not saying it’s right but I sort of get why breakers do it. If every other relocated team’s cards go to their new team/location then why should the old Jets be any different, even though the name is the same. It’s definitely something that breakers should emphasize beforehand though, so situations like yours can be remedied before the fact.

Agreed or just not sell the jets in chronology as its only 1 guy 113 cards total.
I think breaker knew he was wrong so I got my money back which sucks as Im not that type of collector. I can lose no problem but when cards say jets it should go to the guy who bought JETS

[mark D]

Old and new should be stated in auction listings right? if someone is buying the jets watch out.

[mark D]

https://www.cardboardconnection.com/2018-19-upper-deck-chronology-hockey-cards#post_anchor_1_298609
Here is the checklist

[mark D]

So then breaker pulls out a totally different check list that was not noted or linked in the auctions. I am a knewb for sure. but Jets is Jets old or new.

[mark D]

my point is neither my auction JETS that I won or the Coyotes auction somebody else won said anything about other teams included. I did not asume anthing. I bought and paid for winnipeg jets PERIOD. two cards hit. I guess the name Jets means two different teams yet seller never notified this in his auctions by either stating it up front or even by adding old new monkiers or posting in AZ plus Jets... This is weird because two teams same name different franchises. weird

[mark D]

whats crazy is on the checklist for Coyotes there are like thousands of cards including my Jets. You look on the checklist for Jets, One player 113 cards both teams sold for 18 bucks

[senorlaverga]

Just curious, which breaker did you use?

[mark D]

I don't really want to blow him up as I am a knewb, I wont be leaving negative feedback that is wack. But he must have known i was right as he refunded me. i've broken with him before. it was break last night ebay auctions ended 8-9 pm. Still don't get the cards which sucks as I paid for jets and the 2 cards said jets. Just be aware friends that Jets means 113 cards total. Check out his auctions for coyotes and jets. read his fine print. I think i had a very good argument but still lost as he even said in the live break to his friend who had coyotes he would hook him up. lesson learned, team listed on card does not go to team you bought. Total first.
Id love to post the defense he used as it had nothing to do with this particular case but ill refrain from putting him on blast. He sold the jets separate

[mark D]

thanks to all who replied. have a great weekend

[glen87]

i dont really want to blow him up as I am a knewb, I wont be leaving negative feedback that is wack. But he must have known i was right as he refunded me. i've broken with him before. it was break last night ebay auctions ended 8-9 pm. still don't get the cards which sucks as I paid for jets and the 2 cards said jets. Just be aware friends that Jets means 113 cards total check out his auctions for coyotes and jets. read his fine print. I think i had a very good argument but still lost as he even said in the live break to his friend who had coyotes he would hook him up. lesson learned, team listed on card does not go to team you bought. Total first.

then why post this thread at all?

15 posts made by you and nothing really accomplished. at least warn the community who this is so no one else ends up in a similar situation.

[mark D]

ive never seen a situation where cards go to new franchise yet they still sell old franchise as seperate team

[glen87]

ive never seen a situation where cards go to new franchise yet they still sell old franchise as seperate team

and yet, you still will not warn the rest of us here :rolleyes:

[JMarchand1981]

That’s pretty standard for most breaks. Old jets go to Arizona.

I don't dick around in breaks but this guy is legit. If he is saying that, he is right.

[mark D]

Honestly i wanted to hear different views on the subject. its more an issue with Buying the jets in a chronology break than the seller. but i could tell his name but it might make me look like sore loser. i am not.

[glen87]

I don't dick around in breaks but this guy is legit. If he is saying that, he is right.

and since we do not know who we are talking about, we cannot look the listings up for ourselves to see the exact wording. we are only getting one side of the story, and i am not convinced at all it is 100% accurate.

[JMarchand1981]

I understand rules as they are written in the auctions i buy. I bought the jets. Not the new or old just the jets. The Arizona auction said coyotes that's it. Most ebay auctions for coyotes stated plus old jets but this one did not. I paid 22 bucks for the Winnipeg jets and got 2 cards. Even said my name in the live break twice as the winner of the jets. Woke up this am to Oh sorry those go to Arizona. Here is the checklist after the fact. The cards had players in jets uniforms and the breaker sold the jets as a separate team.
Lesson learned that THE CARDS WILL GO TO THE TEAM ON THE CARD, VERIFIED WITH THE CHECKLIST. Means cards don't go to team on the card. Cards pulled value about 75 max so not a biggie. Seller told me I was a knewb. which i am but i bought JETS
SO the checklist he sent me had 99.9 jets players going to AZ and only ONE guy left for the jets. So Winnipeg in group breaks have 113 cards max total in the whole production. Jets should have been sold as such. But that was never told until after. Oh well.


You are saying it isn't a big deal but you are completely triggered right now.

[mark D]

I don't dick around in breaks but this guy is legit. If he is saying that, he is right.

OK but he sold the old franchise as well

[JMarchand1981]

OK but he sold the old franchise as well

Who is "he"? Identify this person.

[salthill]

So then breaker pulls out a totally different check list that was not noted or linked in the auctions. I am a knewb for sure. but Jets is Jets old or new.

Was it the manufacturer checklist? Or one from GroupBreakChecklists.com? Both of those are commonly used by breakers.

[glen87]

Honestly i wanted to hear different views on the subject. its more an issue with Buying the jets in a chronology break than the seller. but i could tell his name but it might make me look like sore loser. i am not.

OK but he sold the old franchise as well

then warn other buyers. :doh:

[mark D]

You are saying it isn't a big deal but you are completely triggered right now.

i got a refund. not to triggered but yeah was unsure of how to deal with it. I stated my case and he told me cards go to coyotes. i knew posting here people would say Coyotes but that is not what his auction stated when every other auction listed for coyotes said plus old jets. His listing did not.

[JMarchand1981]

Was it the manufacturer checklist? Or one from GroupBreakChecklists.com? Both of those are commonly used by breakers.

Good question. I didn't know about the checklist website.

[JMarchand1981]

i got a refund. not to triggered but yeah was unsure of how to deal with it. I stated my case and he told me cards go to coyotes. i knew posting here people would say Coyotes but that is not what his auction stated when every other auction listed for coyotes said plus old jets. His listing did not.

Honestly, if you knew what people here would say...but you won't name the breaker, why post?

[glen87]

i got a refund. not to triggered but yeah was unsure of how to deal with it. I stated my case and he told me cards go to coyotes. i knew posting here people would say Coyotes but that is not what his auction stated when every other auction listed for coyotes said plus old jets. His listing did not.

18 posts, i would say triggered :rolleyes:

[mark D]

Was it the manufacturer checklist? Or one from GroupBreakChecklists.com? Both of those are commonly used by breakers.

He used group breakers checklist. id never seen it once before i bought and paid. I believe this falls under always read the fine print. His fine print stated " cards go to team on card,verified by the checklist. but if cards go to team on card you look at card. no need to go to checklist.


this is the checklist i used to guide my $$$ bids for breaks.
https://www.cardboardconnection.com/2018-19-upper-deck-chronology-hockey-cards#post_anchor_1_298609

[mark D]

18 posts, i would say triggered :rolleyes:

Dood its raining here in Vermont i want to go outside and hit the brown pow. LOL
Ok triggered

[glen87]

i have possibly found this, and if i am correct, just as thought. op is in the wrong here. if op names seller, i will correct this statement, but until then, this is what i found.

one seller lists this way for breaks.

Arizona Coyotes / OLD JETS
NEW Winnipeg Jet/ THRASHERS

[mark D]

Good question. I didn't know about the checklist website.

Im learning too.

[mark D]

i have possibly found this, and if i am correct, just as thought. op is in the wrong here. if op names seller, i will correct this statement, but until then, this is what i found.

one seller lists this way for breaks.

Arizona Coyotes / OLD JETS
NEW Winnipeg Jet/ THRASHERS

Nope not the auctions

[mark D]

Nope not the auctions

reading comprehension is key today.
I stated auctions never said old new teams

Auctions said Coyotes
my auction stated Jets.
Does this change your mind on the subject?

[glen87]

Jets and coyotees
Any feed back as to these types of issues

both ebay auctions were for coyotes and jets. Neither auction stated plus or minus other teams and cards have jets listed and players in the jerseys of jets yet they go to arizona

here is my main issue. take a look at this statement
"THE CARDS WILL GO TO THE TEAM ON THE CARD, VERIFIED WITH THE CHECKLIST."
why would you need a checklist to verify team on card? would you just not look at the card? that statement is wack and is an oximoron
What i am finding is cards do not go to team on card verified by the checklist.

I bought Winnipeg jets, yet my 2 cards go to Arizona even though the card states JETS

Sorry if I have not explained this well

but the cards said jets?

was issued a refund BBBOOOOOOOOO
I just got hosed

I understand rules as they are written in the auctions i buy. I bought the jets. Not the new or old just the jets. The Arizona auction said coyotes that's it. Most ebay auctions for coyotes stated plus old jets but this one did not. I paid 22 bucks for the Winnipeg jets and got 2 cards. Even said my name in the live break twice as the winner of the jets. Woke up this am to Oh sorry those go to Arizona. Here is the checklist after the fact. The cards had players in jets uniforms and the breaker sold the jets as a separate team.
Lesson learned that THE CARDS WILL GO TO THE TEAM ON THE CARD, VERIFIED WITH THE CHECKLIST. Means cards don't go to team on the card. Cards pulled value about 75 max so not a biggie. Seller told me I was a knewb. which i am but i bought JETS
SO the checklist he sent me had 99.9 jets players going to AZ and only ONE guy left for the jets. So Winnipeg in group breaks have 113 cards max total in the whole production. Jets should have been sold as such. But that was never told until after. Oh well.

Agreed or just not sell the jets in chronology as its only 1 guy 113 cards total.
I think breaker knew he was wrong so I got my money back which sucks as Im not that type of collector. I can lose no problem but when cards say jets it should go to the guy who bought JETS

Old and new should be stated in auction listings right? if someone is buying the jets watch out.

https://www.cardboardconnection.com/2018-19-upper-deck-chronology-hockey-cards#post_anchor_1_298609
Here is the checklist

So then breaker pulls out a totally different check list that was not noted or linked in the auctions. I am a knewb for sure. but Jets is Jets old or new.

my point is neither my auction JETS that I won or the Coyotes auction somebody else won said anything about other teams included. I did not asume anthing. I bought and paid for winnipeg jets PERIOD. two cards hit. I guess the name Jets means two different teams yet seller never notified this in his auctions by either stating it up front or even by adding old new monkiers or posting in AZ plus Jets... This is weird because two teams same name different franchises. weird

whats crazy is on the checklist for Coyotes there are like thousands of cards including my Jets. You look on the checklist for Jets, One player 113 cards both teams sold for 18 bucks

I don't really want to blow him up as I am a knewb, I wont be leaving negative feedback that is wack. But he must have known i was right as he refunded me. i've broken with him before. it was break last night ebay auctions ended 8-9 pm. Still don't get the cards which sucks as I paid for jets and the 2 cards said jets. Just be aware friends that Jets means 113 cards total. Check out his auctions for coyotes and jets. read his fine print. I think i had a very good argument but still lost as he even said in the live break to his friend who had coyotes he would hook him up. lesson learned, team listed on card does not go to team you bought. Total first.
Id love to post the defense he used as it had nothing to do with this particular case but ill refrain from putting him on blast. He sold the jets separate

thanks to all who replied. have a great weekend

ive never seen a situation where cards go to new franchise yet they still sell old franchise as seperate team

Honestly i wanted to hear different views on the subject. its more an issue with Buying the jets in a chronology break than the seller. but i could tell his name but it might make me look like sore loser. i am not.

OK but he sold the old franchise as well

i got a refund. not to triggered but yeah was unsure of how to deal with it. I stated my case and he told me cards go to coyotes. i knew posting here people would say Coyotes but that is not what his auction stated when every other auction listed for coyotes said plus old jets. His listing did not.

He used group breakers checklist. id never seen it once before i bought and paid. I believe this falls under always read the fine print. His fine print stated " cards go to team on card,verified by the checklist. but if cards go to team on card you look at card. no need to go to checklist.


this is the checklist i used to guide my $$$ bids for breaks.
https://www.cardboardconnection.com/2018-19-upper-deck-chronology-hockey-cards#post_anchor_1_298609

Dood its raining here in Vermont i want to go outside and hit the brown pow. LOL
Ok triggered

Im learning too.

Nope not the auctions

then give me the seller, so i can confirm and remove statement. until i can verify it, it stands.

[glen87]

reading comprehension is key today.
I stated auctions never said old new teams

Auctions said Coyotes
my auction stated Jets.
Does this change your mind on the subject?

no - because i cannot verify it

[mark D]

Honestly thanks everyone for chiming in
i think i am right but oh well
i swear auctions stated single teams no new/ old/ thrashers etc

[mark D]

then give me the seller, so i can confirm and remove statement. until i can verify it, it stands.

By stating this name i am in no way saying hes right or im wrong but id like you guys to help me decide or feel better.
PWW Cards auctions last night for break at 10:30 pm eastern

Glen, look at how other breakers list coyotes. coyotes plus old jets
This breaker did not.

[deftones04]

All ones I've seen completed in last month clearly state new or w/ Thrashers but mmmk

[mark D]

Glen, you see now how triggered i get? lol

[mark D]

chronology arizona ended auction search. 8 box case ended aug 9th 7:02

[mark D]

my auction was chronology jets 8 box case ended aug 9th 7:56 pm

[glen87]

ok this should be it

pwwcards_breaks

sold a break with this these titles.

ARIZONA COYOTES 2018-19 Upper Deck Chronology Hockey 8 Box Case Break 1

WINNIPEG JETS 2018-19 Upper Deck Chronology Hockey 8 Box Case Break 1

only wording in description is this:

THE CARDS WILL GO TO THE TEAM ON THE CARD, VERIFIED WITH THE CHECKLIST.

unfortunately, no mention of where the checklist comes from. so if this is the correct one this time. i also would be confused on what comes with which team. but then again, if i were a Jets fan, i would know the history of the franchise and the confusion it causes, therefore would have verified which cards came with this auction since both teams were being offered without much information.

[mark D]

if i am in the wrong crush me. if i am right please say nothing as the dude already refunded me. HAHA lol

[glen87]

Honestly thanks everyone for chiming in
i think i am right but oh well
i swear auctions stated single teams no new/ old/ thrashers etc

By stating this name i am in no way saying hes right or im wrong but id like you guys to help me decide or feel better.
PWW Cards auctions last night for break at 10:30 pm eastern

Glen, look at how other breakers list coyotes. coyotes plus old jets
This breaker did not.

All ones I've seen completed in last month clearly state new or w/ Thrashers but mmmk

Glen, you see now how triggered i get? lol

chronology arizona ended auction search. 8 box case ended aug 9th 7:02

my auction was chronology jets 8 box case ended aug 9th 7:56 pm

so just give us the links

[mark D]

ok this should be it

pwwcards_breaks

sold a break with this these titles.

ARIZONA COYOTES 2018-19 Upper Deck Chronology Hockey 8 Box Case Break 1

WINNIPEG JETS 2018-19 Upper Deck Chronology Hockey 8 Box Case Break 1

only wording in description is this:

THE CARDS WILL GO TO THE TEAM ON THE CARD, VERIFIED WITH THE CHECKLIST.

Honestly i just bought the Jets. Two jets cards hit and during the break they told me those were the jets. this am got email no dice! cards go to team on the card

unfortunately, no mention of where the checklist comes from. so if this is the correct one this time. i also would be confused on what comes with which team. but then again, if i were a Jets fan, i would know the history of the franchise and the confusion it causes, therefore would have verified which cards came with this auction sin

ce both teams were being offered without much information.

Honestly i just bought the Jets. Two jets cards hit and during the break they told me those were the jets. This am got email no dice! cards go to team on the card
Any reason to be triggered?

[glen87]

chronology arizona ended auction search. 8 box case ended aug 9th 7:02

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ARIZONA-COYOTES-2018-19-Upper-Deck-Chronology-Hockey-8-Box-Case-Break-1-/193031129832?hash=item2cf18d4ae8%3Ag%3APfEAAOSwc4FdR0yR&nma=true&si=jfRloyc1bEtyvKfbWd5md%252FOPMgo%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

my auction was chronology jets 8 box case ended aug 9th 7:56 pm

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WINNIPEG-JETS-2018-19-Upper-Deck-Chronology-Hockey-8-Box-Case-Break-1-/193031129830?hash=item2cf18d4ae6%3Ag%3APfEAAOSwc4FdR0yR&nma=true&si=jfRloyc1bEtyvKfbWd5md%252FOPMgo%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

ok, i can see the confusion and this would have been a lot simpler given this information earlier. however, despite the confusion, you should have checked and confirmed where all the Jets cards went first.

[mark D]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WINNIPEG-JETS-2018-19-Upper-Deck-Chronology-Hockey-8-Box-Case-Break-1/193031129830?hash=item2cf18d4ae6:g:PfEAAOSwc4FdR0yR

[mark D]

thanks glen

[glen87]

Honestly i just bought the Jets. Two jets cards hit and during the break they told me those were the jets. This am got email no dice! cards go to team on the card
Any reason to be triggered?

what are the exact cards?

[mark D]

let me have it if Im wrong here............... crickets chirp chirp

[mark D]

what are the exact cards?

dale hawerchuck timeless memories canvas auto
Dave Babych - auto base

[mark D]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ARIZONA-COYOTES-2018-19-Upper-Deck-Chronology-Hockey-8-Box-Case-Break-1-/193031129832?hash=item2cf18d4ae8%3Ag%3APfEAAOSwc4FdR0yR&nma=true&si=jfRloyc1bEtyvKfbWd5md%252FOPMgo%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557



https://www.ebay.com/itm/WINNIPEG-JETS-2018-19-Upper-Deck-Chronology-Hockey-8-Box-Case-Break-1-/193031129830?hash=item2cf18d4ae6%3Ag%3APfEAAOSwc4FdR0yR&nma=true&si=jfRloyc1bEtyvKfbWd5md%252FOPMgo%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

ok, i can see the confusion and this would have been a lot simpler given this information earlier. however, despite the confusion, you should have checked and confirmed where all the Jets cards went first.

"cards go to team on card" stated in the auction. i see your point but i bought JETS.

[glen87]

dale hawerchuck timeless memories canvas auto
Dave Babych - auto base

ok, both of these guys played for the "original" Jets

Jets (original) -> 1972-1996
Coyotes -> 1996-current

Thrashers ->1999-2011
Jets -> 2011-

since both of these guys played on the "original" Jets. I personally would believe they would go to the Coyotes, since they are essentially the "original" Jets despite the card saying "Jets." this is why this should have been asked before bidding.

[mark D]

I bought the winnipeg jets
not the winnipeg jets plus thrashers

guy bought coyotes
not the coyotes plus old jets

Auction stated team you buy is the cards you get from that team...... NO
Every other ebay listing states both teams you get, these auctions did not.
Would seller not have some responsibility to sell teams correctly, like many do? or was this on me? i Just bought the jets.....cards said jets.
Because of two franchises having the same name is why this is weird but I bought the jets. plain and simple. I did not ask because the team i bought was the jets.

[glen87]

I bought the winnipeg jets
not the winnipeg jets plus thrashers

guy bought coyotes
not the coyotes plus old jets

Auction stated team you buy is the cards you get from that team...... NO
Every other ebay listing states both teams you get, these auctions did not.
Would seller not have some responsibility to sell teams correctly, like many do? or was this on me? i Just bought the jets.....cards said jets.
Because of two franchises having the same name is why this is weird but I bought the jets. plain and simple. I did not ask because the team i bought was the jets.

you are not wrong, but you are not right either.

this is one of those areas that was not completely communicated (by both sides).

as a "Jets" buyer, you should have been aware of potential issues and made sure you knew 100% what you were bidding on. that said, seller also should have been more clear as well.

as i said, i would personally not expect those 2 cards, but i cannot say everyone would not.

[mark D]

yep it was a wash, woooohooooo
Ive got rangers in a 1:30 case break 16 boxes today..... and it stopped raining so going to trigger my back brake and shred down killington today on my bike.....

[mark D]

thanks again for the imput.

[JMarchand1981]

Oh man. This gave me a headache

[mark D]

Oh man. This gave me a headache

Another thing i noticed is ending prices of these auctions
many arizona plus old jets sells for $36 or more
while arizona solo was $18.

[senorlaverga]

Colorado Rockies always goes to Devils, not Avalanche.
Minnesota North Stars always goes to Dallas, not Wild.

You have a semi-legitimate beef. If this was your first time breaking and you didn’t know the usual rules then at least you got a refund and a lesson learned.

Also, I was stationed in Burlington VT for a winter and it was DAMN COLD.

[Cavaliercards]

This thread is wow. Glad to see ya making friends Glen.

[salthill]

Every other ebay listing states both teams you get, these auctions did not.
Grow up. You bought into that specific break because you thought you saw a gap that (by your own admission) every other breaker covered explicitly. You didn’t clarify it because you thought it would work in your favor, again despite every other breaker covering this off. Your gamble didn’t work, so instead of eating it you whinged your way to a refund. Well done.
On the other side the breaker didn’t clarify something in the listing that they assumed was common knowledge amongst people interested in breaks for that product. So they ate the refund.

[Nutcracker33]

I bought the winnipeg jets
not the winnipeg jets plus thrashers

guy bought coyotes
not the coyotes plus old jets

Auction stated team you buy is the cards you get from that team...... NO
Every other ebay listing states both teams you get, these auctions did not.
Would seller not have some responsibility to sell teams correctly, like many do? or was this on me? i Just bought the jets.....cards said jets.
Because of two franchises having the same name is why this is weird but I bought the jets. plain and simple. I did not ask because the team i bought was the jets.

but that was exactly what you bought, the NEW Jets

all breaks of the modern sets have it set that way, is a standard rule.

But, Chronology is a funny set because it is mainly focused on legends, so the breaker probably didnt read much into the checklist and just list the CURRENT teams on auctions, and it sucks that the breaker is not more clearer on their listings

but hey at least you got a refund

[mark D]

Grow up. You bought into that specific break because you thought you saw a gap that (by your own admission) every other breaker covered explicitly. You didn’t clarify it because you thought it would work in your favor, again despite every other breaker covering this off. Your gamble didn’t work, so instead of eating it you whinged your way to a refund. Well done.
On the other side the breaker didn’t clarify something in the listing that they assumed was common knowledge amongst people interested in breaks for that product. So they ate the refund.

This would be correct if I had known prior. Only found this out after. I just bought the jets after looking at check list. Actually found out there is not one new Jets card in the entire print run of chronology. He should have sold it as Thrashers. If you sell new jets you get one of aprox 113 cards of a thrashers player. I did not find a loop hole. I bought Winnipeg jets. There is only 1 player as thrashers player. NO NEW Jets. He never mentioned what checklist he used. just said checklist. If you look at ending prices for Arizona plus old jets they sell for more than Arizona solo.
You maybe could say that about the guy who bought Arizona solo. but i don't want to speak for them. Again let me have it if I'm wrong. I'm actually getting younger so No i will not grow up.
None of the replies prove i did anything wrong I bought a team and the listing stated cards go to team listed on the card.

[mark D]

And no I never once asked for a refund. I wanted my two cards of the Winnipeg jets that i won in the break. Why would I ask for refund. Seller refunded me because he knew he messed up on his own.

[mark D]

Colorado Rockies always goes to Devils, not Avalanche.
Minnesota North Stars always goes to Dallas, not Wild.

You have a semi-legitimate beef. If this was your first time breaking and you didn’t know the usual rules then at least you got a refund and a lesson learned.

Also, I was stationed in Burlington VT for a winter and it was DAMN COLD.

Not my first time in breaks but yes I read the fine print that stated all cards go to team on card. Lots of jets players. Listing stated Winnipeg jets. not new / old thrashers
Ebay rules state seller has the Responsibility to list cards correctly.
I did nothing wrong here.
Looks like there are no new jets So Winnipeg Jets /new should be sold as Thrashers.

[mark D]

you are not wrong, but you are not right either.

this is one of those areas that was not completely communicated (by both sides).

as a "Jets" buyer, you should have been aware of potential issues and made sure you knew 100% what you were bidding on. that said, seller also should have been more clear as well.

as i said, i would personally not expect those 2 cards, but i cannot say everyone would not.
There are no new jets. its 1 thrashers player goalie. team should have been listed as thrashers new jets. but there are no new jets so just listing as thrashers is prob what seller should have done. seller accused me of being a poor sport after not getting any cards. been in a few breaks where i did not hit any cards no issues. i bought Winnipeg Jets and got 2 cards

[mark D]

Grow up. You bought into that specific break because you thought you saw a gap that (by your own admission) every other breaker covered explicitly. You didn’t clarify it because you thought it would work in your favor, again despite every other breaker covering this off. Your gamble didn’t work, so instead of eating it you whinged your way to a refund. Well done.
On the other side the breaker didn’t clarify something in the listing that they assumed was common knowledge amongst people interested in breaks for that product. So they ate the refund.

Even the breaker announced on the live break, me ,when Jets cards were pulled. Makes me think even the seller had no clue what he was selling, and the guy who paid half of what arizona /old jets sell for and just got arizona complained. even though his listing stated arizona only.

[cking]

ok..we get it..............let it go and get on with your life

[JMarchand1981]

Omfg this is still a thing?

[chiefsncards275]

Where’s tbp with the triggered gifs?


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[oldgoldy97]

You waited 10 years to go ape crap in this thread, huh?

[mark D]

OK, that's great feedback

[mark D]

You waited 10 years to go ape crap in this thread, huh?

Just happened yesterday. This is my old log in. Lurker. Expected this thread to go exactly this way.
Prob why i have not posted in 10 years but thanks guys for the responses.
that prob says a lot about me and more about the folks here.

[chiefsncards275]

Just happened yesterday. This is my old log in. Lurker. Expected this thread to go exactly this way.

Prob why i have not posted in 10 years but thanks guys for the responses.

that prob says a lot about me and more about the folks here.



Nearly half the posts in this thread are just you complaining. How did you expect this to go?


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[JMarchand1981]

Where’s tbp with the triggered gifs?


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No. The guy says he isn't triggered...

[mark D]

Just happened yesterday. This is my old log in. Lurker. Expected this thread to go exactly this way.
Prob why i have not posted in 10 years but thanks guys for the responses.
that prob says a lot about me and more about the folks here.
^^ ^^
What this guy said