Daniel Jones named the starter

[GOWIFB]

About time, get Manning out of there. He has been a mess for years.

[sethc1020]

That didn't take long!! trade Manning to the Jets.

[ND3]

Wonder how many teams call the Giants today inquiring about trading for Eli?

[jetscollector10]

Wonder how many teams call the Giants today inquiring about trading for Eli?

Exactly zero.

[jova888]

Watch out, 100% price increase on fleabay.... lol

[Morgoth]

I need to change my prospecting habits for NFL from looking for blue chippers to flipping penny stocks.

[JeremyNick]

The Giants should unload Eli now to any team who wants him. If you are going to move on from a longstanding franchise QB, you need to move him. He's not going to be helpful to Daniel Jones and if Daniel Jones has a bad game people will start talking about starting Eli again.

[kyle1707]

It's just time...

Jones looked good in pre season...

Its time to move forward...

Eli will be considered a giant all time great and a HOF

[IronMonkey415]

Daniel Jones just has the whole package.
He can run, throw, read the defense pretty decent.

Reminds me of a young and hungry Cam Newton before the injury.

[JeremyNick]

Daniel Jones just has the whole package.
He can run, throw, read the defense pretty decent.

Reminds me of a young and hungry Cam Newton before the injury.

Yeah but does he have swag?

[bigp621]

Jones did look good in pre-season but he also faced Defenses that was playing 2nd and 3rd string. I am not 100% sold on him but I do think he has potential.

[GOWIFB]

I think the Giants first call should be to the Broncos. Besides getting lucky with Manning, Elway loves to pick up mediocre or washed up QBs. I know they already have Flacco but hey whats one more washed up QB to add to the roster.

[FunkyMonkey]

good time to sell my select tie-dye auto i guess

[GoldPanner]

It seems like the changing of the guard with quarterbacks this week

[NYGiants72]

Jones did look good in pre-season but he also faced Defenses that was playing 2nd and 3rd string. I am not 100% sold on him but I do think he has potential.

As someone who was angry we reached for him. I think the preseason made me very optimistic. Not the crazy rating and completion percent, that will fall against better defenses. But watching the throws he made, ball placement and absence of bonehead throws a lot of rookies make - I think he has the tools. I’d also note he was throwing to 2-3 string wrs. But that’s all the Giants have now.

The line looks good enough to keep him protected to have a solid learning season where pressure and expectations are nil.

[Vintage Collector]

The Giants should unload Eli now to any team who wants him. If you are going to move on from a longstanding franchise QB, you need to move him. He's not going to be helpful to Daniel Jones and if Daniel Jones has a bad game people will start talking about starting Eli again.


Not going to happen. Eli will retire a Giant.

Thank you for the two superbowls. Against the best franchise in history for that matter.:flex:

[SethMurphy]

First off. Eli has a full no-trade clause, has permanent residence in NJ with four kids under the age of 8, has won two super bowls and is headed to the HOF. He isn't chasing rings, he's going to mentor Jones and retire at the end of the season.



Secondly.....


https://media.tenor.com/images/8dcbd6365535547e08b33dd08b3b74d8/tenor.gif

[patchgenie]

Wonder how many teams call the Giants today inquiring about trading for Eli?

jags could be calling.

[KB81]

Looking forward to Jones. Thx Eli for everything.
Those 2 SB wins.

Question is.... will that O line protect Jones.

[JeremyNick]

First off. Eli has a full no-trade clause, has permanent residence in NJ with four kids under the age of 8, has won two super bowls and is headed to the HOF. He isn't chasing rings, he's going to mentor Jones and retire at the end of the season.



Secondly.....


https://media.tenor.com/images/8dcbd6365535547e08b33dd08b3b74d8/tenor.gif

He's not going to mentor Jones. I mean, he's pretty much said he wants to be the starter so I don't think it's going to be a smooth transition.
I wasn't aware of the no-trade clause.

[SethMurphy]

Eli hasn't wanted to be the mentor in the past. But now that he has been benched for someone hand picked by his family buddy at Duke... I could see him getting on board. The team has moved on now (and not for Geno Smith) to a top-10 draft pick, and his contract is up at the end of the season.

Jones is probably the only QB Eli would actually mentor and help.

[Vintage Collector]

Future QB coach?

[Stat Monsters]

Can Manning be an effective mentor? It would be nice to keep him with the NY Giants and redefine his role with respect

[TheFrenzy]

Daniel Jones just has the whole package.
He can run, throw, read the defense pretty decent.

Reminds me of a young and hungry Cam Newton before the injury.

Yeah but does he have swag?

Daniel Jones looks like the kind of kid who says "Uh oh spaghetti-oh's!" when he throws an interception.

https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/private/t_editorial_landscape_8_desktop_mobile/f_auto/giants/v59trxgtfmixz7zt128a.jpg

[JeremyNick]

Daniel Jones looks like the kind of kid who says "Uh oh spaghetti-oh's!" when he throws an interception.

https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/private/t_editorial_landscape_8_desktop_mobile/f_auto/giants/v59trxgtfmixz7zt128a.jpg

He also looks like he was kicked in the head by a mule.

[rippev]

Who is he going to throw to? Tough spot for the rookie.

[Vintage Collector]

Who is he going to throw to? Tough spot for the rookie.

The same guys eli had to throw to. No one.:rolleyes:

[Vintage Collector]

He also looks like he was kicked in the head by a mule.

Buying Daniel jones rookies. PM me with what you have.

[JeremyNick]

Buying Daniel jones rookies. PM me with what you have.

B/S/T Bruh

[TheFrenzy]

I don't know if Jones can pull off Cam's swag, but he does his best:

https://i.imgur.com/lrR4Fzz.jpg

[TheFrenzy]

Most people are surprised when Daniel Jones tells them he isn't Mormon.

[jova888]

He will be a bust.

[ninjacookies]

Danny 'Better than YA Tittle' Jones.

My body is ready.

2019 Wax on the rise. Already has a ton of promising receivers/backs...just need a couple of these pigskin slingers to step up.

[Cavaliercards]

Eli ends his career 116-116, he truly was a average QB

[IronMonkey415]

Oh he is one of those guy with the extra nose skin hanging down.

[majestik101]

https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/private/t_editorial_landscape_8_desktop_mobile/f_auto/giants/v59trxgtfmixz7zt128a.jpg

LOL at this picture.

Yeah Suh, Lavonte and Shaq are going to have a field day making this dude's day miserable. Cannot wait.

[kyle1707]

4 tds

Not a bad first game...

[ThoseBackPages]

Wide RIGHT!

[FBGuy13]

Giants still have a lot of work to do but I have been very impressed with daniel Jones and I think he is going to ne really good. Great to see him get the win today!

[blackbears86]

And.........the ebay frenzy begins.


I know it's only Tampa, but the kid looked solid.

[tier1dc]

https://i.redd.it/d7hg5whkc8o31.jpg

[unclemonkey]

Don't know crap about football... would like to stash a few cards.

Can anyone reccomend a product?

[rman112]

And.........the ebay frenzy begins.


I know it's only Tampa, but the kid looked solid.

Didn't crap his pants on the pass rush. Pretty light on his feet in the pocket, too. Impressive game.

[ThoseBackPages]

Don't know crap about football... would like to stash a few cards.

Can anyone reccomend a product?

Wait for Prizm

[yankees18]

LOL at this picture.

Yeah Suh, Lavonte and Shaq are going to have a field day making this dude's day miserable. Cannot wait.

LOL :)!

[rman112]

LOL :)!

Someone needs to him and asujbl to never talk smack. Ever.

[majestik101]

Someone needs to him and asujbl to never talk smack. Ever.

Hmmm

Looking at the Giants remaining schedule (especially if Saquon is out for the majority of the rest of the season), I'll be surprised if the Giants compile 6 wins.

But keep yapping bruh.

;)

[rman112]

Hmmm

Looking at the Giants remaining schedule (especially if Saquon is out for the majority of the rest of the season), I'll be surprised if the Giants compile 6 wins.

But keep yapping bruh.

;)

LOL.. that has nothing to do with you being wrong.

[majestik101]

LOL.. that has nothing to do with you being wrong.

The Bucs did pressure him all day except towards the end when it mattered.

That was a season defining loss.


I'm just bitter. :)

[rman112]

The Bucs did pressure him all day except towards the end when it mattered.

I'm just bitter. :)

I know. That was freaking brutal..

[blevins26]

Immediately after the TD, I was mentally prepared for losing the game. I thought, "if we lose, at least we had some exciting moments and something to build on."

Yes we won on a massive choke job by not only the kicker but also by the coach taking a stupid delay of game. But it made me realize how crappy the last few years of Giants football has been. Not only have we been terrible, we've also had terrible luck. We've constantly had trouble scoring over 20 points. Our offense constantly looks like it needs a lucky break just to get a first down. 3rd and 5+ is basically an automatic punt. Beaten twice on last-second FG's OVER 60 YARDS LONG!

It's about time we had something exciting to cheer for & it's about time we got a stupidly lucky victory!

[bigp621]

Bucs D is trash. I will be sold if he comes out and does well against good defense. I see the talent but I also see that Giant's O-line, barkley being out a bit and his WR always staying hurt. Only time will tell. Side not his stuff is dumb on ebay. I see a lot of charge backs when they lose again and he looks like Fitz tragic lol

[Lancia Stratos]

Gotta say, I’m really impressed with what I saw yesterday

[Brobocop]

Just want to say that I'm really happy for the kid and hope he continues to succeed. The amount of grief that was directed towards him was ridiculous. I love to see people eat their words, and if Jones turns out to be the real deal, the amount of talking heads that will have to walk back comments will be epic.

[SethMurphy]

was under pressure on 51% of his dropbacks, went 12/16 for 192 yards and 1 TD on those plays.

stands in the pocket confidently

[blackbears86]

Bucs D is trash. I will be sold if he comes out and does well against good defense. I see the talent but I also see that Giant's O-line, barkley being out a bit and his WR always staying hurt. Only time will tell. Side not his stuff is dumb on ebay. I see a lot of charge backs when they lose again and he looks like Fitz tragic lol




WOW. Hate much? I have never understood this way of thinking. I don't like the Giants either, but he seems like a good kid, and him doing well is good for the hobby.

[bigp621]

How am I hating when I said it seems like he has the tools but want to see him against a good d before I’m sold.


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[blackbears86]

How am I hating when I said it seems like he has the tools but want to see him against a good d before I’m sold.


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you compared him to fitz and he's played one game:)!

[nickha2]

Pulled this out of a fotl gold standard box about a month ago.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48794041612_69a37465ce_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2hkLdBw)IMG_0065 (https://flic.kr/p/2hkLdBw) by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/184709339@N08/]

[nickha2]

Pulled this out of a fotl gold standard box about a month ago.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48794041612_10b211a652_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2hkLdBw)IMG_0065 (https://flic.kr/p/2hkLdBw) by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/184709339@N08/]

[bigp621]

1 td and 2 int's so far. Like I mentioned I would like to see him against a decent D first. Hmmmm.

[blevins26]

1 td and 2 int's so far. Like I mentioned I would like to see him against a decent D first. Hmmmm.

Didn't have great stats today but made some key plays. Ball security with fumbles was much better. He'll have some tape to review on the 2 INTs.

He can make more plays than Eli both throwing & running. They didn't need it today, but they have the read option set up for him to keep it on a key play in some future game.

Good first 2 weeks against weak opponents. Will be an interesting next 2 weeks for him, especially with the Patriots on a short week.

[gamboooler]

1 td and 2 int's so far. Like I mentioned I would like to see him against a decent D first. Hmmmm.

Could be worse, could be Haskins looking completely inept, as expected, against a terrible Giants D.

[palmetto7]

All about experience and acclimation to the pro game...nice to get some wins as it's happening

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[rman112]

Could be worse, could be Haskins looking completely inept, as expected, against a terrible Giants D.

Jones had the benefit of being the starter. Even if Gruden told Haskins to be prepared, the gameplan was still for Keenum. Just a bad spot.

[bigp621]

Pats D is looking crazy good this year. Scary for a teams D that has looked like they have so far.

[SethMurphy]

Pats D is looking crazy good this year. Scary for a teams D that has looked like they have so far.

What does this have to do with Daniel Jones?

[hxcmilkshake]

Could be worse, could be Haskins looking completely inept, as expected, against a terrible Giants D.Giant D is not good but nice to see them play with some confidence--- Lawrence last week, Peppers this week

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[Thor34]

Whats going to be the go to RC for Daniel Jones in a Giant uniform?
Non-Auto.

[Siberian13]

Whats going to be the go to RC for Daniel Jones in a Giant uniform?
Non-Auto.

Phoenix

[bigp621]

What does this have to do with Daniel Jones?

They play them in the coming weeks. So he will face a solid D just like next week he will face the Vikings. So we will see what he is made of. That's what it has to do with Daniel Jones.

[thenwhatjk]

Phoenix

Lol this guy

[CC_123]

So the Vikings defense is either going to let Jones throw and run all over them or hold him to like 12-29 for 124 yards passing. Im hoping for the second part, but I will say, even though its been just two games, I was wrong about Jones. He is a gamer.

[bigp621]

Think the vikings come after him. Reason why Jones looked decent yesterday is Gallam stepped up and played well. Pretty shocked by his performance.

[WallyG71]

I just did a search of completed auctions for his Select XRC's can't believe that they are in $125 range already. Being a huge Giants fan I had picked up 5 of them between ebay and local shows back in mid-August and early-Sept. I think the most I paid for any one was $30. Can't wait to see what his Prizm prices start at the end of this month :eek:

[armoursave]

Other than Mahomes this is the guy to own.

[asujbl]

Other than Mahomes this is the guy to own.

Explain...

[armoursave]

Explain...

I’d say he has the most upside. Considering the circumstances surrounding his draft and all the negativity it created, the expectations were/are quite low. If the G-men are 0.500 at the end of the season it’s a monumental success. If they can somehow make the playoffs (playoffs?!?) it will be the second coming. Eli got benched way before anybody thought he would (should is a different issue) and now this guy wins 2 games and actually looks pretty good doing it. He has things the Giants haven’t had at QB in a long time: mobility, arm strength, some pocket presence, size, etc.

Also, the Giants have shown their willingness to stick with a QB forever so this guy barring injury may well be the face of that franchise for a very long time

But hey, one guy’s opinions.

[asujbl]

I’d say he has the most upside. Considering the circumstances surrounding his draft and all the negativity it created, the expectations were/are quite low. If the G-men are 0.500 at the end of the season it’s a monumental success. If they can somehow make the playoffs (playoffs?!?) it will be the second coming. Eli got benched way before anybody thought he would (should is a different issue) and now this guy wins 2 games and actually looks pretty good doing it. He has things the Giants haven’t had at QB in a long time: mobility, arm strength, some pocket presence, size, etc.

Also, the Giants have shown their willingness to stick with a QB forever so this guy barring injury may well be the face of that franchise for a very long time

But hey, one guy’s opinions.

All that can be true

Doesn’t make him the hobby second coming

[armoursave]

All that can be true

Doesn’t make him the hobby second coming

No he’s no Mahomes for sure. He’s an average NFL QB prospect....and that is such a cosmic upgrade for the Giants it cannot be overstated.

I’d much rather own Jones than say Murray. And the Giants kind of have the last laugh don’t they? I mean they could have taken Haskins.

[asujbl]

No he’s no Mahomes for sure. He’s an average NFL QB prospect....and that is such a cosmic upgrade for the Giants it cannot be overstated.

I’d much rather own Jones than say Murray. And the Giants kind of have the last laugh don’t they? I mean they could have taken Haskins.

So your original post was nonsensical and insane

Got it... which was my point

[armoursave]

So your original post was nonsensical and insane

Got it... which was my point

:doh:

[asujbl]

:doh:

Explain...

[rman112]

He should be getting some help. Tate will be back, and Barkley coming back next week is looking realistic. Giants have a chance to sneak in the playoffs.

[SethMurphy]

He should be getting some help. Tate will be back, and Barkley coming back next week is looking realistic. Giants have a chance to sneak in the playoffs.

I'm an optimistic Giants fan, but our defense can't hold up when the schedule gets tougher.

vs Vikings
@ Patriots
vs Cardinals
@ Lions
vs Cowboys
@ Jets
@ Bears
vs Packers
@ Eagles
vs Dolphins
@ Redskins
vs Eagles

I'd say we have 4 games we should win (AZ, NYJ, MIA, WAS) but outside of that those Vikings/Patriots/Bears defenses are legit, Eagles/Cowboys are tough all around. Lions are a crapshoot but that defense is stout too.

I guess we finish 7-9

[rman112]

Yeah, their defense will be a weak link.

I'm curious to see how Jones looks against Minnesota. They obviously have talent on defense, but that is a team that could be hitting a tailspin really fast.

[HeadstrongRSS]

Why does Jones get a complete pass for what should have been a 3-INT game?

[rman112]

Why does Jones get a complete pass for what should have been a 3-INT game?

Probably because it was his second game, and their wasn't a Daniel Jones hype train. And they won.

[HeadstrongRSS]

#DannyNickels

Looking avg as eff.

[NYGiants72]

#DannyNickels

Looking avg as eff.

Not at all. Obviously I am a Giants fan, but no bias here. I thought Jones was a horrible pick when it happened and I am eating crow.

As for the bad. Jones is a rookie who is making rookie mistakes - so the INTs and fumbles (which he seems prone to especially given the preseason) are there.

But the good - some things to consider.
-If you watch the games, his accuracy and arm are pretty solid. He has great ball placement, especially when he isn't under duress. His receivers don't get the separation they need for the throws to connect - but he seemingly has all the tools except for the bad decisions common with almost all rookies.
-He doesn't have a ton to work with. Receivers are well below average sans Engram. The offensive line has been improved, but was very exposed against the Vikings
-Jones has a good sense of when and how to use his mobility. He isn't reckless, but is a constant threat with his legs, with very good pocket presence to sense when he should run and where to go with it. Also, has the frame to absorb some hits without shattering.

I am not saying he is Mahomes. He isn't. But also its not a completely fair comparison. Mahomes had an absolute burner in Hill last year and got a year of experience under his belt before he started and lit the league on fire. It's not inconceivable from what I have seen that he could be a top 5 QB with more talent and experience.

In terms of hobby, he doesn't need to be Mahomes. He is one of the better looking rookie QBs in a few years, and is in one of the hottest markets. Especially paired with a healthy Saquon, he could do some great things in the next few years, especially if he gets a legit #1 receiver at some point while keeping Engram.

[kyle1707]

QB's like Jones Kyler Darnold and Rosen should just be praised for being able to survive

[ucLAkers]

QB's like Jones Kyler Darnold and Rosen should just be praised for being able to survive

Bad OL are early career enders for some QBs....Rosen has had 2 of the absolute worst. He survived twice :D

[armoursave]

These picks are killing me. C’mon man!

[hxcmilkshake]

He reminds me of Daveyhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191011/7479065b2f9004b3f99185844442fd03.jpg

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[ILOVEBEER]

These picks are killing me. C’mon man!

He's playing like Baker.....

[bigp621]

I’ll go back to when I said once he plays a good defense we will see. 2 good defenses in a row . 2 td and 5 ints.


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[blevins26]

I’ll go back to when I said once he plays a good defense we will see. 2 good defenses in a row . 2 td and 5 ints.


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I think he's shown some bright spots beyond just those TD/INT numbers. He fit it into some tight windows last night.

Playing without his top 2 RB's the past 2 weeks has been a killer. This is a team that's built around Saquon. Then, on a short week this week, he's missing top 2 RB's, Top WR, Top TE.

Moving on from MIN & NE, it will be interesting to see the showdown between the top 2 QB's from the draft next week when they play the Cards. Giants should have all their guys back (maybe with the exception of Shepard) and I would expect a better statistical performance from Jones. Hopefully he delivers.

[kyle1707]

This giants offense is like the jets Dolphins etc...

What do you want him to do?

Its brutal...

[7hTarget]

He reminds me of Daveyhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191011/7479065b2f9004b3f99185844442fd03.jpg

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Idk how this beauty was just glossed over. Perfect.

[ILOVEBEER]

Why does Jones get a complete pass for what should have been a 3-INT game?

Seems like he's getting another "pass". The hypocrisy in this hobby is amazing.

[Siberian13]

Idk how this beauty was just glossed over. Perfect.

Make it seem like it was 10 pages ago :)

[LC2nine10]

Seems like he's getting another "pass". The hypocrisy in this hobby is amazing.

He also hasnt been running his mouth nonstop since ge got drafted. On a team expected to be pretty horrible. He wasnt hyped coming in, most people thiught his pick was a reach, so its expected. If he was a bonafide consensus top 5 pick playing like this people would be talking more.

[ILOVEBEER]

He also hasnt been running his mouth nonstop since ge got drafted. On a team expected to be pretty horrible. He wasnt hyped coming in, most people thiught his pick was a reach, so its expected. If he was a bonafide consensus top 5 pick playing like this people would be talking more.

Playing bad knows no boundaries. Hate to break it to you, but it will be pretty tough for Jones to beat Baker's rookie numbers. Baker isn't playing that well this season, but we saw what he's capable of.

I've been in the hobby long enough. Jones is a rookie behind a hated Eli Manning. No matter how bad he plays, most in this hobby will ignore it just because. Some have him pegged as another Mahomes. I don't see that comparison at all.

[bigp621]

Once he has all of his weapons we will see. Tough stretch but doesn't matter how good you are but if that o-line is trash, d is trash makes for a tough time don't care who it is. D needs to make stops and allow the Offense time then the Offense needs to play well to give the d time to breath, pretty sure giants don't really have either right now

[Grid]

He's playing like Baker.....

Baker wishes

Mayfield is averaging 248 total yards per start, fewer than 1 TD per game and a QBR of 33.2 (31st in the league). He has thrown twice as many picks as touchdowns

Jones is averaging 246 total yards per start, almost 2 TD's per game and a QBR of 58.6 (10th in the league) His INT to TD ration is nearly 1 for 1 after last night.

[Grid]

Playing bad knows no boundaries. Hate to break it to you, but it will be pretty tough for Jones to beat Baker's rookie numbers. Baker isn't playing that well this season, but we saw what he's capable of.

I've been in the hobby long enough. Jones is a rookie behind a hated Eli Manning. No matter how bad he plays, most in this hobby will ignore it just because. Some have him pegged as another Mahomes. I don't see that comparison at all.

100% agree with DJ not being the next Mahomes. Ironically enough, he might ascend to be the next Eli manning.

As for Baker's rookie year, its amazing what having game film out on you will do to a QB once coaches can scheme against them.

Not saying baker wont bounce back, but a lot of rookie QB's start off hot, then fizzle their sophomore years once the word is out.

Remember when Vince Young won ROY? Yup.

Sam Bradford went from hope to hopeless fast.

Rookie Year: 354 of 590 for 3,512 yds, 18 TDs vs. 15 INTs, 60 completion percentage

Sophomore Year: 191 of 357 for 2,164 yds, 6 TDs vs. 6 INTs, 53.5 completion percentage

And since we are talking about the Browns, their fans saw a savoir in Tim Couch that 1st year. But...

Rookie Year: 223 of 399 for 2,447 yds, 15 TDs vs. 13 INTs, 55.9 completion percentage

Sophomore Year: 137 of 215 for 1,483 yds, 7 TDs vs. 9 INTs, 63.7 completion percentage

[ILOVEBEER]

100% agree with DJ not being the next Mahomes. Ironically enough, he might ascend to be the next Eli manning.

As for Baker's rookie year, its amazing what having game film out on you will do to a QB once coaches can scheme against them.

Not saying baker wont bounce back, but a lot of rookie QB's start off hot, then fizzle their sophomore years once the word is out.

Remember when Vince Young won ROY? Yup.

Sam Bradford went from hope to hopeless fast.

Rookie Year: 354 of 590 for 3,512 yds, 18 TDs vs. 15 INTs, 60 completion percentage

Sophomore Year: 191 of 357 for 2,164 yds, 6 TDs vs. 6 INTs, 53.5 completion percentage

And since we are talking about the Browns, their fans saw a savoir in Tim Couch that 1st year. But...

Rookie Year: 223 of 399 for 2,447 yds, 15 TDs vs. 13 INTs, 55.9 completion percentage

Sophomore Year: 137 of 215 for 1,483 yds, 7 TDs vs. 9 INTs, 63.7 completion percentage

Ok?? So what will happen to Jones? What happens when teams have 14 games to look at? What happens when he has more INTs than TDs this season. I suppose since it's Daniel Jones, we'll have to excuse all that. Haskins has played in one game on one of the worst teams. He's already being written off. Jones?? No way. He's golden.

I just think it's funny who gets love and who gets thrown out. You provided some cool stats for a few QBs. Is Jones the one exception. May be his numbers will be worse next year...

**If you want to throw out some stats, we can bring up Baker's record TD passes last season. He's not winning a SB this season, but look at the two guys behind him in that category. Took Peyton several years to finally get a ring. Just saying, if we're not writing off Jones right now, you can't write off Baker.

[Grid]

Ok?? So what will happen to Jones? What happens when teams have 14 games to look at? What happens when he has more INTs than TDs this season. I suppose since it's Daniel Jones, we'll have to excuse all that. Haskins has played in one game on one of the worst teams. He's already being written off. Jones?? No way. He's golden.

I just think it's funny who gets love and who gets thrown out. You provided some cool stats for a few QBs. Is Jones the one exception. May be his numbers will be worse next year...

We cant say what will happen in Jones sophomore season, since it hasn't happened yet. But we can look at Baker's, since it is unfolding right now. That is the only comparison you can draw.

I'm not saying Jones is the exception, I'm not a fan of his at all. There doesn't need to be an exception. That is not what my post was about.

Hell, a lot of great QB's continued to build upon their 1st season and become better and better. Like Peyton Manning, Brett Favre and many others.

But you still have players, like Matt Leinart, who set an NFL rookie record with 405 passing yards in a single game, and then...

The hype is fun with Baker. But if anyone who watches football thinks what is happening to him now is nearly impossible, they are nuts. it happens all the time. The Browns work up some new plays, Baker stops showing the same tendencies, he starts having different looks ETC and all that game film and planing becomes worthless. But as long as that team keeps doing "what worked last year" it will start to fizzle against coaches that know what they are doing.

PS, I'm going through the same thing with the Bears O. Nagy ran the same style in KC. It sort of kinda worked in the NFC last year. Now, its garbage, and he needs to blow it up and evolve. Its been figured out. That well has run dry.

I watched a reporter ask Belichick last season, before the Pats played the Bears, if he was worried about played Nagy, and that KC offense now in Chicago. Since the Pats struggled against it with the actual Chiefs. Billy boy said "No, this isn't the Chiefs offense. Its last years Chiefs offense" And he then beat the Bears!

[7hTarget]

I know that Danny Dimes will be better than Trubisky. That much is sure.

[Grid]

I know that Danny Dimes will be better than Trubisky. That much is sure.

That seems pretty random. Did someone earlier bring up Mitch in this thread, and I somehow missed it?

I know that Danny Dimes will be better than Ryan Finley. Or better than Brett Hundley.

[7hTarget]

Definitely better than Brett Hundley. IDK about Finley though.

[WallyatJCCards]

If he was a bonafide consensus top 5 pick playing like this people would be talking more. Top 5 QB or Top 5 Overall?

[HeadstrongRSS]

I know that Danny Dimes will be better than Trubisky. That much is sure.

Trubisky's story isnt done. Needs a fresh start. The O he is on is basically like asking Flacco to run the Lamar Jackson o, in terms of a system using the strengths of a QB to build on.

Trubisky is really good when he gets outside the pocket, can run, and use that skillset. Nagy's crap system is based on short routes, has Mitch stay in the pocket, and theve told him not to run. Also, 4 of the 5 weapons are mini-sized and cant get off the line.

Not saying hes some hidden gem, but Nagy and crew are using him in the worst possible way to take advantage of his skillset.

[ILOVEBEER]

We cant say what will happen in Jones sophomore season, since it hasn't happened yet. But we can look at Baker's, since it is unfolding right now. That is the only comparison you can draw.

I'm not saying Jones is the exception, I'm not a fan of his at all. There doesn't need to be an exception. That is not what my post was about.

Hell, a lot of great QB's continued to build upon their 1st season and become better and better. Like Peyton Manning, Brett Favre and many others.

But you still have players, like Matt Leinart, who set an NFL rookie record with 405 passing yards in a single game, and then...

The hype is fun with Baker. But if anyone who watches football thinks what is happening to him now is nearly impossible, they are nuts. it happens all the time. The Browns work up some new plays, Baker stops showing the same tendencies, he starts having different looks ETC and all that game film and planing becomes worthless. But as long as that team keeps doing "what worked last year" it will start to fizzle against coaches that know what they are doing.

PS, I'm going through the same thing with the Bears O. Nagy ran the same style in KC. It sort of kinda worked in the NFC last year. Now, its garbage, and he needs to blow it up and evolve. Its been figured out. That well has run dry.

I watched a reporter ask Belichick last season, before the Pats played the Bears, if he was worried about played Nagy, and that KC offense now in Chicago. Since the Pats struggled against it with the actual Chiefs. Billy boy said "No, this isn't the Chiefs offense. Its last years Chiefs offense" And he then beat the Bears!

I just like playing devil's advocate. Something I've always heard from people is the "look at Peyton Manning's rookie year" when they refer to a rookie QB they like. He threw 28 INTs his rookie year! Seems like a lot, but if you look at stats, some really good QBs have thrown around the same or more in their career. A bad year doesn't predict the future...same as a good year.

Again, I'm just laughing because people here are so quick to jump on and off some players. There's always some stats or comparison to throw out there for your players-good or bad.

[kyle1707]

That giants offense Thursday is as bad as jets dolphins cardinals

Can’t get on kyler Jones darnold Rosen etc.

I’m optimistic

I think they all are going to be decent wants teams get better

[hxcmilkshake]

Maybe Zack Brittonhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191013/d0d0daaf58a684597ede8a1772d18304.jpg

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[majestik101]

Time for concern?

He has 12 turnovers this season and 11 in his five starts. Jones has thrown at least one interception in four straight games and has six touchdown passes and seven interceptions this season.

[asujbl]

Jones sucks

Baker might also suck... for that debate above

Jones definitely does

[asujbl]

I’d say he has the most upside. Considering the circumstances surrounding his draft and all the negativity it created, the expectations were/are quite low. If the G-men are 0.500 at the end of the season it’s a monumental success. If they can somehow make the playoffs (playoffs?!?) it will be the second coming. Eli got benched way before anybody thought he would (should is a different issue) and now this guy wins 2 games and actually looks pretty good doing it. He has things the Giants haven’t had at QB in a long time: mobility, arm strength, some pocket presence, size, etc.

Also, the Giants have shown their willingness to stick with a QB forever so this guy barring injury may well be the face of that franchise for a very long time

But hey, one guy’s opinions.

Still buying?

[jasonm2121]

Jones sucks

Baker might also suck... for that debate above

Jones definitely does

Hahahaha, think he’s basically Mitchy with less random scrambles?

[armoursave]

0.500 seems like a stretch, but he’s got the potential to be an average NFL QB.

[asujbl]

Hahahaha, think he’s basically Mitchy with less random scrambles?

Which guy? Haha

Baker? My heart says might be worth investing at an all time low

Jones sucks and will always suck

We all knew this.

People tried to convince themselves after a pitchers goes against a team Seeing as it says you're in the USA, you're supposed to think the way that you are currently.

The rest of the world isn't making Reggie Bush to Zion comparisons.

once... he’s figured out

I did a super weird quote from my phone. Sorry

[jasonm2121]

Which guy? Haha

Baker? My heart says might be worth investing at an all time low

Jones sucks and will always suck

We all knew this.

People tried to convince themselves after a pitchers goes against a team

once... he’s figured out

I did a super weird quote from my phone. Sorry


Meant Jones ha

[yankees18]

Jones sucks and will always suck

We all knew this.

5 starts into his career with a bad o-line and receivers dropping balls like nothing I’ve ever seen, but yeah he’ll always be terrible, no chance he ever gets good. For sure.

Lol. Yikes.

I mean, the fumbling issues have been terrible, don’t get me wrong, but that is something that is extremely fixable. Other than that, he’s actually been pretty good. Especially considering the obstacles I’ve listed above.

[yankees18]

5 starts into his career with a bad o-line and receivers dropping balls like nothing I’ve ever seen, but yeah he’ll always be terrible, no chance he ever gets good. For sure.

Lol. Yikes.

I mean, the fumbling issues have been terrible, don’t get me wrong, but that is something that is extremely fixable. Other than that, he’s actually been pretty good. Especially considering the obstacles I’ve listed above.

Plus, this was his first full game with an actual running back today.

[JWBlue]

Buy where there is blood in the streets!

[RAV2773]

Danny Pennies not looking good

[blevins26]

This was a disappointing game from Daniel Jones. No way around it. He forces too many throws and his pocket awareness needs to get better.

On the plus side, he makes some great throws and he uses his legs well.

I'd really like to see the coaching staff protect him more with some designed QB draws (which would keep the pass rush more honest) and some runs on the read option. The play doesn't work if the QB never keeps the ball.

[HeadstrongRSS]

One of the more frustrating parts of this hobby is that after initial bumps in price, it basically doesn't go back down to where it should be.

Daniel Jones has been stripped of his nickname (and the ball...often). Why are his cards still priced like he's a stud? Pretty sure he's bottom 5 in lots of categories.

It's like when you go back to 2018 now. Why on earth would Baker still be more expensive than Josh Allen, who is turning out to be clearly better?! Daniel Jones should be below Kyler, slightly ahead of Haskins.

[IronMonkey415]

Eli swan song coming up.

Last few games, pretty sure he'll give us vintage Eli before he rides off into the sunset

[Siberian13]

One of the more frustrating parts of this hobby is that after initial bumps in price, it basically doesn't go back down to where it should be.

Daniel Jones has been stripped of his nickname (and the ball...often). Why are his cards still priced like he's a stud? Pretty sure he's bottom 5 in lots of categories.

It's like when you go back to 2018 now. Why on earth would Baker still be more expensive than Josh Allen, who is turning out to be clearly better?! Daniel Jones should be below Kyler, slightly ahead of Haskins.

Because all those guys bought so high they won’t take the big loss. Most probably are shilling their own auctions or auctions that are the same card they own. The hobby is weird like this. When Luck was struggling his cards were still ridiculously high. I can’t imagine what happens if Mahomes struggles.

[HeadstrongRSS]

Because all those guys bought so high they won’t take the big loss. Most probably are shilling their own auctions or auctions that are the same card they own. The hobby is weird like this. When Luck was struggling his cards were still ridiculously high. I can’t imagine what happens if Mahomes struggles.

Mahomes IS struggling.

I'm more talking new product. New cards that came from breaks or box pulls. The old stuff, I get. No one wants to lose what they paid. But new? I want boxes to go down. Optic is soon. There is no rookie QB stud right now.

[Siberian13]

Mahomes IS struggling.

I'm more talking new product. New cards that came from breaks or box pulls. The old stuff, I get. No one wants to lose what they paid. But new? I want boxes to go down. Optic is soon. There is no rookie QB stud right now.

They have to make their money while the products are still new. They will come down once next year's products come out if there aren't any qbs worth collecting in these.

[chasacar86]

One of the more frustrating parts of this hobby is that after initial bumps in price, it basically doesn't go back down to where it should be.

Daniel Jones has been stripped of his nickname (and the ball...often). Why are his cards still priced like he's a stud? Pretty sure he's bottom 5 in lots of categories.

It's like when you go back to 2018 now. Why on earth would Baker still be more expensive than Josh Allen, who is turning out to be clearly better?! Daniel Jones should be below Kyler, slightly ahead of Haskins.

Crazy concept but people may be prospecting for what they think he can become not for what he’s done in the past 2 weeks. There’s no “shouldn’t” in the hobby. People are willing to pay more than you now, simple as that.

Siberian with the scorching hot take of “most auctions are probably being shilled.” Yeah that’s prob it lol

[Siberian13]

Crazy concept but people may be prospecting for what they think he can become not for what he’s done in the past 2 weeks. There’s no “shouldn’t” in the hobby. People are willing to pay more than you now, simple as that.

Siberian with the scorching hot take of “most auctions are probably being shilled.” Yeah that’s prob it lol

If it's Baker, then yeah probably. I mean there can't be Baker collectors out there that dumb to pay those prices, right? :cry:

How much was a Baker contenders base auto preseason vs. now? Has to be a big dip right?

[HeadstrongRSS]

Crazy concept but people may be prospecting for what they think he can become not for what he’s done in the past 2 weeks. There’s no “shouldn’t” in the hobby. People are willing to pay more than you now, simple as that.

Far far far more than 2 games. Most of the season. He has had 3 good games all season and has been an absolute turnover machine. The rest he was trash.

Weird level of hype. No reason so far to think hes better than Kyler. None. It almost has to just be the size of the NY Giants market on Danny Nickels. Looks way worse than Darnold, yet 2x the price.

[Onepocketj]

Mahomes IS struggling.

I'm more talking new product. New cards that came from breaks or box pulls. The old stuff, I get. No one wants to lose what they paid. But new? I want boxes to go down. Optic is soon. There is no rookie QB stud right now.

Lmao. Mahomes is struggling? Really?!?! OK...

[HeadstrongRSS]

Lmao. Mahomes is struggling? Really?!?! OK...

Last 2 games:

175, 1 td, 81.8 rating vs Oakland
182, 1 td, 72.7 rating vs Chargers

3 more games: 96.5, 91.9, 81.0

I mean, for Mahomes...yup. He has had 3 great/insane games all season...only one of which happened after late September. That's 1 more "great game" than Trubisky.

[LC2nine10]

Crazy concept but people may be prospecting for what they think he can become not for what he’s done in the past 2 weeks. There’s no “shouldn’t” in the hobby. People are willing to pay more than you now, simple as that.

Siberian with the scorching hot take of “most auctions are probably being shilled.” Yeah that’s prob it lol
People are dumb

All this stuff will be way cheaper next season once new qbs are out

[Onepocketj]

Last 2 games:

175, 1 td, 81.8 rating vs Oakland
182, 1 td, 72.7 rating vs Chargers

3 more games: 96.5, 91.9, 81.0

I mean, for Mahomes...yup. He has had 3 great/insane games all season...only one of which happened after late September. That's 1 more "great game" than Trubisky.

3000 yards in 9 games with 20 TDs and 2 INTs. Yep, definitely a slump.

[Siberian13]

3000 yards in 9 games with 20 TDs and 2 INTs. Yep, definitely a slump.

10 games

[Onepocketj]

10 games

We must look at different stats. I count 9 this year.

[Siberian13]

We must look at different stats. I count 9 this year.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MahoPa00.htm

[Onepocketj]

Hmmm. Must be missing a game. So only averaging 298 a game. Yep, slumping.


Game
CMP%
YDS
TD
INT
Rating
12/1
vs

Raiders
51.7
175
1
0
81.8
11/18
@

Chargers
59.4
182
1
1
72.7
11/10
@

Titans
72.0
446
3
0
119.3
10/17
@

Broncos
90.9
76
1
0
125.8
10/13
vs

Texans
54.3
273
3
1
96.5
10/6
vs

Colts
56.4
321
1
0
91.9
9/29
@

Lions
57.1
315
0
0
81.0
9/22
vs

Ravens
73.0
374
3
0
132.0
9/15
@

Raiders
68.2
443
4
0
131.2
Regular Season
64.5
2,983
20
2
107.7

[Siberian13]

Jacksonville

[LC2nine10]

Jacksonville

Yup.
Went 378 and 3.
Guys pretty good.

[Siberian13]

Yup.
Went 378 and 3.
Guys pretty good.

Eh it's Jax

[chasacar86]

People are dumb

All this stuff will be way cheaper next season once new qbs are out

Totally agree. Cyclical at this point just plug the new guys in each year.

[HeadstrongRSS]

He has 3 games that were so productive that they somewhat tilt how the season looks. Slumps happen within a season in multi game stretches as well. He is elite stil

[majestik101]

I love how this all of a sudden turned into a Mahomes thread. Nothing is sacred.


Also, Danny "Spare Change" sucks.

[ucLAkers]

He has 3 games that were so productive that they somewhat tilt how the season looks. Slumps happen within a season in multi game stretches as well. He is elite stil

Sarcasm im guessing?

[ksemmel]

He looked yesterday. Granted against the Skins, but nice to see better decision making than where he was earlier in the season

[rman112]

He's had a pretty damn good year. 2700 yards, 23 TD/11 picks as a rookie ain't too shabby.

He was supposed to be able to lean on Barkley in the run game. Barkley's been either hurt, or largely ineffective, in most of Jones' games. Before yesterday, Barkley hadn't had one single 100 yard game with Jones. Not even a single 90 yard game. One 83 yard game. One 72 yard game. One rushing TD in 8 games. One receiving TD.

This reminds me of Porzingis a little bit. A move that fans hated, and the guy turns out to be a good player.

[hxcmilkshake]

He's had a pretty damn good year. 2700 yards, 23 TD/11 picks as a rookie ain't too shabby.

He was supposed to be able to lean on Barkley in the run game. Barkley's been either hurt, or largely ineffective, in most of Jones' games. Before yesterday, Barkley hadn't had one single 100 yard game with Jones. Not even a single 90 yard game. One 83 yard game. One 72 yard game. One rushing TD in 8 games. One receiving TD.

This reminds me of Porzingis a little bit. A move that fans hated, and the guy turns out to be a good player.A win next week may save Shurmur's job. Either way, need a defense now.

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[rman112]

A win next week may save Shurmur's job. Either way, need a defense now.

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For sure. If they can't get Young, corner makes sense.

[BeastMode27]

Got this back from PSA today for the growing stash. Pop 1.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49632491692_5c55878c20_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iBRuBo)CE9584DE-E714-4D32-9B73-67369E155826 (https://flic.kr/p/2iBRuBo) by Brandon Holloway (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157571536@N05/), on Flickr

[oplum29]

nice!

[jpcz]

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49549715143_1d4e5cb954_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iuxf2v)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/2iuxf2v) by , on Flickr

[Gigantor]

Not a big dollar card, but love the RWB.

https://i.imgur.com/kD3WyUbh.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/kD3WyUb.jpg)

[whoshotjr]

https://i.imgur.com/gPOr9Frl.jpg

Unfortunately one of the top corners was dinged out of the pack. Couldn't really see on the front but noticeable on the back.

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[Mitch]

I have a Gold Lazer that I pulled myself off with PSA at the moment. My favourite colour from this years prizm.

[whoshotjr]

I have a Gold Lazer that I pulled myself off with PSA at the moment. My favourite colour from this years prizm.I did like those as well, nice looking and fairly accessible.

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[taylor5877]

The RWB DJ is a sweet card. Nice to see they can still pull a 10 with that awful top border on front from the factory.

Both of mine (still raw) have a nastier looking cut on that top border than most RWB prizms.

[KB81]

Sup guys

Quick Q since this seems like the most relevant thread to ask.

I am looking to get some DJones cards. I see Select has a few RCs- Which is considered “the rookie” to get in Select?
I see #16, #157 & #205 + and XRC.
157 looks nice as does XRC but I know people flock more to one than the other.

Thoughts?

[KB81]

I see it now. Field level would be presumed the more sought after?

1) Concourse #16
2) Premier #157
3) Field level #205

Guess that leaves XRC and that’s the top dog along with Field Level?

[wharfrat7624]

I see it now. Field level would be presumed the more sought after?

1) Concourse #16
2) Premier #157
3) Field level #205

Guess that leaves XRC and that’s the top dog along with Field Level?


I know the Mahomes Field Level Silver is more sought after compared to other Select cards with the exception of XRC...


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[a-train10]

Any update on him (or Lock, actually) signing his NT RPAs? Waiting on one, and he seemed to be a decent singer throughout 2019 products. Just curious!

[KB81]

I know the Mahomes Field Level Silver is more sought after compared to other Select cards with the exception of XRC...


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Got it

I gave it a go.

I have incoming Prizm base, Prizm Silver and Select Field Level - All PSA 9s

Let's go Big Blue!

[wharfrat7624]

Got it

I gave it a go.

I have incoming Prizm base, Prizm Silver and Select Field Level - All PSA 9s

Let's go Big Blue!


Awesome! Good luck! I’m looking for a Field Level Silver myself...


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[KB81]

Awesome! Good luck! I’m looking for a Field Level Silver myself...


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There is a raw one that the seller made me an $85 offer but I looked at it well and it seems to have blemishes my PSA 9 does not have. So I passed.

It is this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-Select-Daniel-Jones-Filed-Level-Silver-Prizm-Rookie-Card-RC-New-York-Giants/383557953007?hash=item594dd5e5ef:g:pG8AAOSwc-NeyD8Z

[wharfrat7624]

There is a raw one that the seller made me an $85 offer but I looked at it well and it seems to have blemishes my PSA 9 does not have. So I passed.

It is this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-Select-Daniel-Jones-Filed-Level-Silver-Prizm-Rookie-Card-RC-New-York-Giants/383557953007?hash=item594dd5e5ef:g:pG8AAOSwc-NeyD8Z


Thanks for the heads up.


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[KB81]

Some fine 9 mail day.
I also have a PSA 9 base prizm.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50047225123_d36655ff3e_c.jpg

[wharfrat7624]

Some fine 9 mail day.
I also have a PSA 9 base prizm.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50047225123_d36655ff3e_c.jpg


Very nice KB.


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[asujbl]

Other than Mahomes this is the guy to own.

This is still insane...

[JoeAdam]

I hit this out of a box of 2019 Chronicles today. It's numbered 3/10. Do you guys think this is a card worth stashing and hoping he pans out, or will the whole sticker auto and chronicles/score keep it from really taking off?

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50105933992_4716ee0c5f_z.jpg[/url]

[a-train10]

Just got notification from Panini that my NT RPA has been fulfilled. Excited!

[NeilCO]

Just got notification from Panini that my NT RPA has been fulfilled. Excited!

Nice! I don't have any RPAs on the way, but also got notifications for two NT autos.

[ShanWVU]

Have a "Prime Selections" RPA redemption from Select I hope to be updated on soon

[the36chamber]

got these 2 in the mail today

https://i.ibb.co/8xnTd7h/IMG-9260.jpg (https://ibb.co/ZgRtYMZ)
https://i.ibb.co/gMdxQfn/IMG-9261.jpg (https://ibb.co/kgJtzwd)

[tcdyess]

Beautiful cards!

[rudyjustinfarrell]

Nice. Hopefully his Optic cards are not far behind.

[HeadstrongRSS]

He's got a great on-card signature.

[Archangel1775]

He looks good on the field. Seems to play like a vet already.

[a-train10]

08/99! There’s a sliver of blue in there, LOL.

https://flic.kr/p/2jxjczw

[SleeperCards]

08/99! There’s a sliver of blue in there, LOL.

https://flic.kr/p/2jxjczw

Yours? FS/T?

[a-train10]

Yours? FS/T?

Yes, just picked up from FedEx. Holding for now, have only been able to purchase one Jones. Will let you know if I decide to move it!

[yimfinity]

Finally getting around to taking some pics of my redemptions. Bought the redemption cards for all (no luck pulling myself :))

got a nice #1 among others

https://imgur.com/a/3iis9Va

https://imgur.com/xunuDNT
https://imgur.com/BmBWzeV
https://imgur.com/0yKWoYZ
https://imgur.com/9pmbwu5

[NoleinJax]

Finally getting around to taking some pics of my redemptions. Bought the redemption cards for all (no luck pulling myself :))

got a nice #1 among others

https://imgur.com/a/3iis9Va

https://imgur.com/xunuDNT
https://imgur.com/BmBWzeV
https://imgur.com/0yKWoYZ
https://imgur.com/9pmbwu5

Very nice and lucky not to have gotten some all white patches like I've seen on a few of the throwback's.

[bedler]

My current jones...

Select xrc 1/1
Select xrc gold auto 8/10
Prizm vinyl 1/5
Optic RR 1/1https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200822/dda0d4a0116e47b71251c2d431c000d8.jpg

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[jayjones82]

Wowza!

[gonygo]

got these 2 in the mail today

https://i.ibb.co/8xnTd7h/IMG-9260.jpg (https://ibb.co/ZgRtYMZ)
https://i.ibb.co/gMdxQfn/IMG-9261.jpg (https://ibb.co/kgJtzwd)

love the look of these NT...:)!

[the36chamber]

love the look of these NT...:)!

Thanks, I wish they had the RC logo.

[progers9119]

If anybody has any redemptions pending, looks like he's signing!

Just got shipping notification for my Optic Purple Stars /25

[Vinny1984]

Nobody bumped this yet? Danny Dimes living up to his name.

Edit: just as he throws a pick. I’ll leave...

[hanstess]

Nobody bumped this yet? Danny Dimes living up to his name.

Edit: just as he throws a pick. I’ll leave...

Including that nice pick he just threw...lol

[SupermanBrandon]

I "heart" Danny Dimes. Throws a TD and my Silver Select 10 sold on eBay before they could go to commercial.

[Vinny1984]

Honestly love Dimes. I’m into him for the long haul.

[HeadstrongRSS]

This OL Dimes has is an absolute joke.

[armoursave]

Gunslinger

Edit: idiot!

[Vinny1984]

Not sure what the hell he was thinking there.

[KB81]

That was bad.

[HeadstrongRSS]

Dude cannot do that crap. Blah.

[Vdm2018]

he's not the future. Giants need to draft a new quarterback next year.

[Vinny1984]

he's not the future. Giants need to draft a new quarterback next year.

..Huh?

[Schmoove]

he's not the future. Giants need to draft a new quarterback next year.

Turnover prone with bad pocket awareness isn’t a good combination but they can’t give up on him yet.

[HeadstrongRSS]

Its not really bad pocket awareness. Their blocking is terrible and the swarm of defenders is coming from all places at all times. No run game too.

[SupermanBrandon]

he's not the future. Giants need to draft a new quarterback next year.

I could care less about the Giants or Daniel Jones...but the QB isn't the problem! That O-Line is terrible.

[ninjacookies]

Not his finest moment.


But this is a weird year with no preseason. It's like the basketball restart. I suspect you won't see many young players hitting their stride until week 4 or 5. I still think he's going to be a fine player in the long run.

[Yikes]

New offensive line coach with a new revamped line will make any qb look bad.

They need at least a full season to all gel together as a unit especially without a pre-season.

[NYGiants72]

I have no problem with how he played...

No protection
Run game shut down
Some drops early
Solid defense with blanket coverage
2nd year player with no preseason

There was one bonehead play, some other misses, but also showed the ability to stand in against pressure and make some really solid throws as well. I'll take it - but more worried about whether the line can keep him upright enough to continue to develop this year.

[LordofTheRings]

He shows the potential to be good. Maybe Romo-ish.

[NoleinJax]

I hope Danny Dimes struggles so his prices can come down some. He looks like the real deal to me. 1st pick was just a great defensive play and 2nd was him trying to do too much, but he has all the tools imo to be very successful.

[kyle1707]

Im not a fan of the team or the QB

But this guy will play for 15 years and throw for 40-50k yards and 300 plus tds
like a eli rivers

Not hard to see it

Will get better... he has played like 12 games lol

Has an amazing arm... everything else will come

Not to ramble but its funny who we say is good as young QB

Mahomes is great but has never played a game with out amazing talent around him
We say darnold sucks... ya his team is awful
same with mitch... cast is brutal
look at dak... so much talent around him
kyler just got best wr in game
feel bad for tua

i could go on and on

[xbignick]

Scary how much he reminds me of Eli.

[kyle1707]

Scary how much he reminds me of Eli.

1000%

Would be a pretty amazing if he was

[deemsterz33]

Scary how much he reminds me of Eli.

I'll take 2 more SB victories

[tjforce]

Thought Dimes looked pretty good overall tonight.

280 yards, two TDs with absolutely no run game.

He moved the ball most of the night until they got into the red zone.

For week 1 there was a lot to like, assuming they can get the run game going again.

[beavers]

Saquon with 15 carries for 6 yards tells you all you need to know about how the o-line played. Jones played pretty well considering.

[shootit]

that amazing drive leading up to that dumb ass attempt to throw, made it all that much worse

[tjforce]

that amazing drive leading up to that dumb ass attempt to throw, made it all that much worse

Without that play it was a pretty darn good game.

But that's how it goes... a lot of times games hinge on 1-2 plays.

[f2tornado]

I don’t have any of his cards so just an unbiased opinion... A lot of QBs take a couple seasons to really hit their stride. He does remind me of Eli with maybe a little Brett Favre mixed in. His opening game was decent considering the team only had 29 yards rushing and the line allowing unfettered access to the QB all night. He even got more chain movers than Ben, granted a few came in garbage time.

[NoleinJax]

Scary how much he reminds me of Eli.

Way more athletic imo.

[marlinsmaniac20]

Daniel Jones cannot recognize a blitz to save his life

[SupermanBrandon]

Daniel Jones cannot recognize a blitz to save his life

Every play probably felt like a blitz w/ that O-Line

[tjforce]

I don’t have any of his cards so just an unbiased opinion... A lot of QBs take a couple seasons to really hit their stride. He does remind me of Eli with maybe a little Brett Favre mixed in. His opening game was decent considering the team only had 29 yards rushing and the line allowing unfettered access to the QB all night. He even got more chain movers than Ben, granted a few came in garbage time.

What impressed me was his arm and some of the throws he make...

That deep TD to Slayton was a perfect pass. Slayton blew by the corner, but the safety underneath it has time to recover if that pass is underthrown.

A lot of people are talking bad about the goal line INT, but it looks to me like he got hit as he threw. IMO the INT to TJ Watt was a worse play. He never recognized the drop and didn't have an open receiver anyways.

Either way, I'll take the good with the bad against an opponent like this.

[Schmoove]

What impressed me was his arm and some of the throws he make...

That deep TD to Slayton was a perfect pass. Slayton blew by the corner, but the safety underneath it has time to recover if that pass is underthrown.

A lot of people are talking bad about the goal line INT, but it looks to me like he got hit as he threw. IMO the INT to TJ Watt was a worse play. He never recognized the drop and didn't have an open receiver anyways.

Either way, I'll take the good with the bad against an opponent like this.

The problem with the goal line int was him not throwing the ball away before it came to that. Nobody open and you are running for your life take the down loss and live to fight another down.

[hanstess]

Daniel Jones cannot recognize a blitz to save his life

Big issue with the blitz is Saquon is not good at picking up the extra rusher. He missed several blocks

[tjforce]

The problem with the goal line int was him not throwing the ball away before it came to that. Nobody open and you are running for your life take the down loss and live to fight another down.

Yea he tried to do too much.

But there were 1 or 2 other times in the game where he tried to do to much and it worked... like the cross the field throw to Barkley for the first down. It's an area he has an opportunity to progress.

[BeastMode27]

Big issue with the blitz is Saquon is not good at picking up the extra rusher. He missed several blocks

Yeah I saw Engram miss about every block all night.

[ksemmel]

Jones has 3-5 throws every game that are very impressive.

After that, everything else is pretty meh

[kyle1707]

Jones and darnold have no chance..... those teams are the worst in the nfl....

The thing is also... if one of them has the worst record... you can't pass on T Lawrence

[ksemmel]

Jones and darnold have no chance..... those teams are the worst in the nfl....

The thing is also... if one of them has the worst record... you can't pass on T Lawrence

The Giants will 100% pass on TL.

[kyle1707]

The Giants will 100% pass on TL.

Like passing on manning or luck imo

[Schmoove]

Due to the NFC East being so bad, I don't see any of the 3 teams (NYG, WFT & Philly) being bad enough to draft 1.1 to be able to take Lawrence.

After seeing the success Murray is having in AZ, I don't see anything wrong with cutting bait if you don't think Jones is the guy.

[gonygo]

The Giants will 100% pass on TL.

Agreed.Picking TL is most likely not even an option for them.. TL has the talent to be a very good, if not great QB. If the Giants get the #1 pic they should trade it as some other team will pay up big time for it. G-men need major help to rebuild their god awful team...1 position they have locked down is the QB..Everything else is a mess.

The Jets on the other hand... lol Cant pass on TL imo

[XFL2020]

Have a Jones RWB Prizm I'm looking to offload. Probably should do it now. Don't have a lot of hope with how bad they've been playing.

[Vinny1984]

I said the same thing in the Watson thread. If you were buying before the season and hoping for a super bowl/mvp type of year, your expectations were delusional. These guys are more than one year holds and will be just fine. Between bad trades and injuries, their teams are dumpster fires this year.

[progers9119]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/patrick-mahomes-other-nfl-players-and-fans-react-on-twitter-to-daniel-jones-tripping-during-80-yard-run/

[Whodatiz]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/3342303b11e86ddc7c4f16f7293599c8/tenor.gif?itemid=12673996

[tjforce]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/patrick-mahomes-other-nfl-players-and-fans-react-on-twitter-to-daniel-jones-tripping-during-80-yard-run/

Fantastic...

Jones has the physical tools to be good in this league....

He just has a terrible offensive line and lacks consistency and the pocket presence to feel the rush coming. The good news is I don't hear the Giants calling for his head yet.

[progers9119]

Fantastic...

Jones has the physical tools to be good in this league....

He just has a terrible offensive line and lacks consistency and the pocket presence to feel the rush coming. The good news is I don't hear the Giants calling for his head yet.

Definitely fun to laugh at with the play, but he definitely had some wheels on that play (even if they got wobbly at the end :D )

[Fratboy]

Wheels def fell off his wagon, on his long run.
I think he has the skills to be a long term NFL starting QB.
Giants need to think about drafting another Tackle. Their 1st round pick this year, is not
an NFL caliber Left Tackle.

[no10pin]

Daniel Jones goes to the movies

https://media1.giphy.com/media/pVBUBqNdTdsVuiybM4/source.gif

[savepolarbears]

As hilarious as it was, I actually feel sorry for him. Not many QB's (Kyler and Lamar excluded) can bust out an 80 yard run like that. Impressive.

And I also read it was the fastest QB run in 2 years? Extra impressive.

PS. I dislike the Giants so zero bias here.

PPS. Also top 5 longest QB run in last 25 years.

PPPS. Just wanted to use this as I have never in my life used PPPS.

[no10pin]

As hilarious as it was, I actually feel sorry for him. Not many QB's (Kyler and Lamar excluded) can bust out an 80 yard run like that. Impressive.

And I also read it was the fastest QB run in 2 years? Extra impressive.

PS. I dislike the Giants so zero bias here.

PPS. Also top 5 longest QB run in last 25 years.

PPPS. Just wanted to use this as I have never in my life used PPPS.

Up until the time that he stumbled over that invisible gopher, it was pretty impressive. He was pulling away from the DBs who were chasing him.

It's just a very Giants (or NFC East) thing to do because the fall is what most people will remember from it.

[Whodatiz]

Wheels def fell off his wagon, on his long run.
I think he has the skills to be a long term NFL starting QB.
Giants need to think about drafting another Tackle. Their 1st round pick this year, is not
an NFL caliber Left Tackle.

Yeah, they might need to move him back to RT, where he started.

[Mahomie]

Up until the time that he stumbled over that invisible gopher, it was pretty impressive. He was pulling away from the DBs who were chasing him.

It's just a very Giants (or NFC East) thing to do because the fall is what most people will remember from it.

Yep, it's definitely unfortunate. My theory is that because of the lack of crowd noise, he heard footsteps and lost balance.

[Yikes]

https://i.imgur.com/fq9VcVS.jpg

[Stats]

Poor guy - he shot out of a cannon and I think the adrenaline and excitement got to him. I wish he could have wobbled his way to the end zone. That run was really impressive up until that point

[Fratboy]

Poor guy - he shot out of a cannon and I think the adrenaline and excitement got to him. I wish he could have wobbled his way to the end zone. That run was really impressive up until that point

Would have been cool if he could have rolled in, before the defender touched him down.