Do "The Cup" rookies have any Value if Not Signed vs Young Guns?

[Soxrule111]

Sorry if the title is hard to understand.

If a player has a rookie in "The Cup" but its just a base card.

How in comparison to a Young Guns Rookie would the value be?


On one hand, I feel like the Cup should easily be 2x-5x the YG, but it seems YG's outsell just about all cards that arent signed (except Ice /99)


So I guess, would you rather have
2x The Cup Rookies /249
or
5x Young Guns


For Potential to flip for value down the road

[JMarchand1981]

I collect YGs and will form stock piles so YGs. It also gives me the chance to divest over time, if you are asking from an investment standpoint.

[Mrpokey]

Young Guns easy decision

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[Soxrule111]

Thanks guys, I grabbed 1 cup for a couple bucks, and Ill graba couple YGs to complement it. Didnt want to snag 5 cups if it was a dumb idea.

[hche]

W/O sig... just go with YG.

[Hardcore]

The Cup print run number 249 - or if you are lucky you get an RC numbered of 99. having no patch.. sure - but its still The Cup.
Young Guns production probably in the tens of thousands.. if not hundreds of thousands.
UD still gets orders for 2016-17 UD retail and since there are no numbered or signed cards in it - they still keep printing it and thats not to mention all the original print run and blasters etc they make - are you kidding me?
How can one of the most in demand years product -- still get more product this far along after.
there are less people buying the cup versions because over time you wont see them
but you will see lots of YG.
I never buy Young Guns... when I see fellow collectors with multiple 100 counts of them
Unfortunately - its the price guide influencing things - when they base their 'whats hot?' page - all YGs - on an extremely overproduced product its very unfortunate.
For the exact same reasons that early 90s RCs have little or no value for RCs of some HOF players -- ie overproduction - YGs is just too overproduced.

There is no doubt in my mind that the Conor McDavid Young Guns RC was printed way more than a Score Martin Brodeur RC as an example -- but the thinking is that those 90s years products were so overproduced -- but the same people just ignore how much crazy amounts of YGs get made. For example - I know for a fact - my local Walmart took in over 100 cases of 2016-17 UD blasters back then..multiply that times so many Walmarts ... and then ToysRUs.. and so on

Many collectors figure since I cant get my hands on a RC numbered of 99 or even 249 -- they load up on Young Guns and those are the forces overhypeing the crappy YGs that I have no time for.

As a collector I want the rarer cards -- like the Cup or Premier.. because you could fit all the people that have any one card in one section of any NHL arena.
You can fill at least 10-15 full NHL arenas with all the people that would have any one YG rookie card and still have more cards left over.
YGs to me -- not worth my time.

Collecting is about getting the cards that few other people have -- not the ones that everyone has or the ones they can keep printing more of as they get more orders for them.

Just speaking from a perspective of a person who likes to have things that few others have.
Go for the Cup. no doubt

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